Planning a two-week solo vacation to France in April of 2027. >low-budget (about 4500 USD including airfare)>I like art, history, and meeting folks, especially locals but other tourists are cool too>Je peux comprendre relativement bien français but can't speak it very well at all (part of the point of the trip is to get better at the language)The current rough plan is:>Monday 1, hop on a flight from New York and land in Paris>Tuseday 1, do stuff in Paris>Wendsday 1, hop on a bus/train to Bordeaux>Thursday 1 through Sunday 1, do stuff in Bordeaux >Monday 2, hop on a bus/train to Toulouse >Tuseday 2 through Thursday 2, do stuff in Toulouse >Friday 2, hop on a bus/train to Lyon>Saturday 2 and Sunday 2, do stuff in Lyon>Monday 3, hop on a bus/train back to Paris and fly back to NYSound doable or no? Any ideas for stuff to do appreciated. General tips also welcome. Your own stories about French travel would be cool to see too. Let's just make this a general French tourism thread
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>>2906508France used to be known for rude French people. Now it's known for violent thieving Africans. I was gonna go there but opted for Japan which is half the price and I can relax among civilized people
>>2906531Je ne visiterai pas le Japon avant que j'apprends un peu du japonais.
Not what I would do. Go to Rome instead in April. Rome, Florence, Bologna, Verona, Venice. Better art, better history, better people.
>>2906531>Now it's known for violent thieving Africans.No it's not. On the other hand, you are known as the /pol/ virgin who has never left his home state.>opted for JapanNo you didn't. You have never had a passport.
Sounds like a solid plan, although you could squeeze in some more places if you feel like you're not too rushed:>Carcassonne>Beziers>AvignonYou could do one or more of these between Toulouse and Lyon.
>>2906508That's a lot of big cities but I guess it's fine if you want to do museums and stuffBonjour/s'il vous plaît/merci is non negotiable, that's basic politeness here and you will get the rude french people if you don't do that
>>2906508why France? more interesting places in Europe to visit. I'd go for Germany or the UK instead.
>>2906638Both are diverse shitholes full of head choppers but at least Germany is more affordable
>>2906508>I like art, history>1 day in Pariswhy would you do this?do more days in Paris, if you like art and history Paris has basically everyand the incredible high value basic stuff (Musee d'Orsay, Louvre, Versailles) already takes more than a day>Paris -> Bordeaux -> Toulouse -> Lyon -> Paristhat's a lot train rides, at least there should be a TGV connection between all those3 of those connections are nearly a full day travel (>5h train ride)and the cities themselves are not that great...your trip will be much better if you cut out a location and focus on ONE region instead (so Paris + Region)just a few examples, depending on what you are interested in exactly>Normandy & BrittanyMedieval stuff like Bayeux Tapestry / Mont-Saint-Michel and impressionist (Giverny, Honfleur)Rouen would be a good first starting point>The Loire ValleyRenaissance, lots of castles like Chenonceau, Chambord and Amboisegood starting point: Tours>Alsacetimbered villages with cool historybigger cities are Strasbourg and Colmar>Provencelots of Roman stuff (Nîmes arena, Orange, Pont du Gard), also Van Gogh/Cézanneeither go to the south like Carcasonneor east to the Côte d’Azur start in Avignongenerally get a rental car as soon as you leave Paris>~4200€ budget for 2 weeksnot even low budget, outside of Paris and in April (off season) that's mid range
>>2906639I found France to be extremely boring.
>>2906508>low-budget (about 4500 USD for 2 weeks)>visit a shitton of places, only cities>half of them aren't interestingDo Americans really
>>2906639Funny how you never told us which state you are from, /pol/ virgin.
>>2906855Why would that matter? I doubt its even the same anon.>>2906782Seriously though
>>2906508You should pack in 30-50 more destinations(like London, Madrid or Ankara that are not that far away) or you might end up accidentally seeing something.
I would skip Lyon for sure. If you are into history like WW1 and 2, stick to the north. You could make an entire trip with just Paris, Normandy, and maybe Brittany. People in Normandy were extremely kind and seemed to like Americans. As other anons have said, don't overdo it and cram too much into two weeks.
Coming in with my own France questions. Gonna have 7 days in Paris, one of which will be Jan 1st so a lot of closures probably. How many days should I spend on day trips? Was thinking 1 for a Normandy day tour, 1 for Versailles, and 1 for Rouen if I'm feeling it.
>>2906646>get a rental carAre these as much of an expensive pain in the ass to get there as in the USA? Because I'd probably rather just visit a few walkable *gasp* cities for a few days time.
Surprisingly, Paris was the least African city I visited in France because all the tourists help the ratio and the negroes are mostly segregated by costs to the outer suburbs
I went to Paris 20 years ago and it was a filthy, and very diverse shithole then. I can't imagine it's improved at all.Bon voyage!
>>2906646>>The Loire Valley>Renaissance, lots of castles like Chenonceau, Chambord and Amboise>good starting point: ToursTours is good because it's well placed and all the chateaux except Chambord are in a 1 hour drive, but other than that it's not that interesting once you've seen Place Plumereau and the Cathedral. Amboise is better located and there is more stuff to see on site.
>>2906508>two-week solo vacation to France in April of 2027.>>low-budget (about 4500 USD including airfare)kek what a bitch. his low budget is 18x the cost of my low budget. his two weeks is my 9 months
>>2907168Based Vagrant Holiday impersonator. How the fuck do you even get from New York to France on 250 USD?
>>2907188You dollar cost average your flights. If you pay $365 round trip for a flight, and stay for a year, your flight cost was $1 a day. If you pay $365 and stay for 10 days, your flight cost was $36.5 a day. You cut your cost by more than 30x literally by doing nothing. I just checked and you can fly NYC to Athens for $149. Then from athens you can fly to Paris for about $40 or less, or investigate the flixbus. Could be fun to see europe that wayBut for routing you generally fly the cheapest macro to macro route that's close enough to your final destination. Once you're close enough, from there you can figure it out
>>2907054>Are these as much of an expensive pain in the ass to get there as in the USA?never rented in the US so idkyou can get a small, run down Peugeot for like ~25€/day in most of Franceyou don't want a big car anyway, parking spots are often very smallbook with a credit card that has insurance included, make photos of the whole car before (while picking up) AND after (when on the rental company return parking lot)they sometimes try to scam you but revert on the tiniest resistance with photos>Because I'd probably rather just visit a few walkable *gasp* cities for a few days time.the main problem is, you won't get to these walkable cities in the first placeand many interesting cities are interesting for a day trip, not overnightFrance generally has good public transport in the big citiesbut the big cities happen to be the most uninteresting part (except Paris)and it's not like Germany, Switzerland or the Netherlands where train / buses run everywhere regularly, you often get like 2 connections per day or similar bullshitgetting a car really isn't that expensive if you're selective about the time frameand you can reach so much morethink about this way, everything (everyone kek) that makes france shitty in some places usually stays within the bounds of public transport, everything (even walkable towns) only reachable by car is usually the picturesque France people imagine
>>2907048Ok, just realized that D-Day tours from Paris are not only rare in the winter, but the ones available are extremely expensive. I think I'll skip it for some other time.Any other day trips recs from Paris in winter?
>>2907221It would be easiest to stay in Bayeux or Caen for a night or two if you want a dday tour. Very easy train ride from Paris, although I dont know who offers tours in winter.
>>2906508Instead of Lyon, go to Annecy. Annecy is France's best kept secret. The most beautiful city I've seen in the country.
>>2907190lol what the fuck is this troll mathematics? Somehow you're paying less for a flight by staying longer? Can't tell if trolling or just stupid. >fly NYC to Athens for $149. Then from athens you can fly to Paris for about $40Wow can't wait for my 9 months in Paris on 61 USD. What do I do when I get there? Get a job?
>>2906531To be frank they're only rude with English speaking people who at least don't try to butcher their language by saying "désolé, je parle pas français". I've seen people being told to speak their own language because they may understand it. Spanish btw
>>2906508Paris is at least 3 days to get bored with the art.
>>2909146Asshole french deserve to get rekked by Africans for that behavior
>>2909150How would you know when you have never been to France or Germany or any of the other countries you keep sperging about in multiple threads? You really seem obsessed with Africans for some reason. Could it be because of the type of porn you're addicted to?
>>2907231>Annecy>secretIt's literally overrun with tourists kek
I don't feel like making my own thread and this seems somewhat relevant for my purposes. I have a long layover in Paris this weekend. What should I prioritize if I'm there for a single day? I was thinking the Louvre but I don't know how much of it I'll get to see and I'm not really a museum person. I already bought a ticket to visit the top of the Eiffel tower and scheduled it for 2h30m after I land. Is that enough to get through customs, find a locker for my carry-on luggage, buy a day pass for transit, and make my way over there? By any chance, is there a map of the CDG airport so I can optimize my path like an MMO bot?
>>2907190I thought you were exaggerating, but then I saw the Norse Atlantic fare. Nonstop flight too. Shit. I could've taken the train from here to NYC for $88 and flew out to the Mediterranean.
Fuck, there's so many countries you can visit from NYC for under $200. They must be really struggling to put asses in seats if fares for October have slumped so low. Stupid of me to think Miami was the better option to depart America on a one-way; it's so much more limited in choices.
>>2909349If you need to go through passport control and customs first, it's going to be tight, especially if you don't have a EU passport. Even if you land on time and won't have long passport queues, you probably won't make it in time by using public transport as CDG is pretty far and you might need to get an expensive taxi.Check google maps to get an idea of how long it would take to go to Eiffel from CDG using public transport or taxi.
>>2909360NY and Miami aren't remotely close. Why would these 2 be your options?
I’m planning go to Paris but would rather stay in greater metro area. Is Vincennes a good option?
>>290650Baguette here.Don't go to Paris, it's god awful. I should know, I lived there for over 20 years.Bordeaux is not different.Toulouse is, err, okay I guess. Even though the only interesting things in Toulouse are Aeroscopia and the Airbus factory.I might be biased though, I hate city slickers.Real, honest to God, advice: rent a car and go on a road trip around the more rural part of France. It's full of charm and assuming you take the time to stop at decent restaurants you'll eat extremely well.
>>2909479I can go straight to either departure destination by Amtrak for less than $100. I flat out refuse to buy a multi-carrier ticket.
>>2909349Visit the catacombs
>>2909349Vastly dependent on how many people have to go through custom at the same time. You'll be cutting it close on an average day.
>>2906508Can I travel with you? I'm South Asian and always wanted to go to France.
Some areas of Paris are fine, stay around the 7th, 8th and 1st arrondissements and don't go anywhere near the 18th.But as this guy >>2909513 said, visit the countryside and small towns, not the citiesProvence is beautiful so long as you do not step foot in Marseille
Have you ever done Europe? I wouldn't recommend Paris for your first Euro trip. Go to Italy or Spain. Better weather, nicer people, prettier cities.
>>2912247Horrible advice all those countries are filthy and full of angry criminals of colour.
>>2912251You are from india and have never been to Europe.
>>2912247Dumbest shit I've ever read in my lifeHave you ever considered that maybe people travel to places because those specific places actually personally interest them?
