Why doesn't America have cheap hostels? Is this an untapped billion dollar market? Or is there some reason, like regulations or whatever the US doesn't have them?
>>2906558If that were to happen, it would instantly become a hotbed of drugs and rape.
>>2906562How do hostels in other countries keep the drugs and rapists out?
Cheap hostels exist they just aren't usually worth it. Hostelworld has a few but bro you have to be desperate.I use them in Hawaii all require proof of flight out of the state, other ones in the USA require you to prove not within X miles, etc. Hawaii is really the only state outside Alaska I'd do a hostel in in, maybe Guam. Usually if I need somewhere cheap I'll do airbnb where some guy is renting a room in a house rather than a hostel, usually is about the same too.>>2906563Most have police that will show up and do something, hostels in the USA are scared shitless about some homeless guy walking in who's black and going AYO DEES PPL BE RACISS and then their entire business tanks after getting firebombed by BLM. Hostels suck because many states will just sweep it as a civil matter or be completely destroyed on social media.
>>2906569>Cheap hostels exist they just aren't usually worth itIsn't the entire point of a hostel that they're crappy but cheap?
Goes without saying that hostels are often designed with shoestring budget foreign tourists in mind.The US is a massive country. It doesn't make sense to have cheap hostels everywhere. Every foreign tourist is going to popular places like New York, Los Angeles, Miami, etc. You don't really need a hostel in Bumfuck Iowa.So you build cheap hostels in New York. Tourists don't stand a chance. If a local low-income New Yorker hears about a cheap room, they're gonna book them immediately and indefinitely. Forget the crime for a minute, the hostels will just be outright sold out.
>>2906558Same reason why cheap anything is left to the wayside, we're in this shitty paradox where there are too many and too few rich people at the same time
>>2906572I mean yeah but the USA has to deal with trash people, you know the ones.Airbnb is where hostels live, there are so many rented houses with all 4 rooms bunk bedded out. You're not finding traditional hostels downtown because homeless, nogs, spanish illegals "traveling", would fill them up in 0 seconds.I did a 1br shared house in CA near the beach last year bedroom to myself was ~65/night, pretty decent deal noise was low dude was thankful I knew what hostel manners were from Asia/Europe and had a decent time. Last "hostel" I stayed in was in Hawaii, it was fun but still trash tourists being niggers till 2am. Before that Green Tortise in Seattle (shithole lmao) and had nothing but europoors (usually bongs and germans) who were like "amervican veed is not strong we smoke in europe all dey time" then proceed to get absolutely obliterated by how insane US weed is and stumble around like zombies.Airbnb has shared room in a house at more or less the price of a hostel in many places just use that or a motel 6.
>>2906558The work of maintaining a pleasant hostel environment in the US is costly; staff have to be paid, they don't work for a bunk bed. So tourist hostels in the US are hardly ever less than half the price of a cheap motel, or $35-55 per bunk per night. There are cheaper roomshares you can find on Booking.com, but they are sparsely furnished with sullen brokie tenants who make the place smelly and dirty. Disabled oldfags, travelbums rotting in bed all day, seething wagies, and all other sorts of anti-social characters who can't stand the bright chatter of tourists enjoying their USA backpacking trip. Most Americans are intensely private people who feel very awkward in close quarters with strangers. Hence their dislike of public transit and hostels.
>>2906569This guy gets it, it all comes down to shitty people being allowed to destroy with no consequences, same reason the $1 McChicken now costs $5 in the USA and a big Mac meal is $5 in Japan.
>>2906562So a hostel?
>>2906558they would just instantly become homeless shelters for the demonically possessed and illegals.
Because poors travelling is categorically undesirable and always the root of all travel disputesFeel free to kill yourself, isekai is waiting
>>2906558Low trust diverse societies can't have stuff like hostels.
>>2907261what do you mean we have house share airbnbs that are the SAME thing just without staff, electronic lockbox, keys for each room, cameras outsideflophouse quality interiors (sometimes)and they 100% do have hostels in places near the appalachian trail and other outdoorsy towns
>>2907262>and they 100% do have hostels in places near the appalachian trail and other outdoorsy townsYou made his point about high trust places dumbass
>>2907266i dunno if I would call those high trust placesthey also have them in bigger cities and in small coastal towns - where I guess that is higher trust but I feel like in America everyone is confrontational and suspicious and trust only exists in weird ethnical enclavesand ur ignoring my point that airbnb has subsumed the need for hostels with cheap room shares
>>2906558The same reason america can never have nice things.Minorities.
>>2907267America didn't have hostels before airbnb
>>2907311Yes it did and does, Green Tortise Hostel in Seattle has been open since forever. Plenty others too.
>>2907312Then stay there and quit crying
>>2907321I have, wtf are you trying to say?
>>2907267Outdoorsy towns are much more high trust and positive minded than suburbia wagie hell. In Gunnison, CO the hostel door was never locked, and few people locked their bicycles either.
You can also ask why America doesn't have $4 Asiaslop joints serving three bites of meat per dish, or $30 motels with outside bathrooms. Rich countries don't prioritize cheapness or affordability. Complain about high prices and the only response is "tee hee stop being poor and go get your hustle on".
>>2907261The people that complain about a low trust society are often the ones who do the most to bring it about
>>2906563I lived in a hostel in Australia as a Work-for-Accomodationfag and telling druggies to fuck off was actually an unofficial part of our job kek. Luckily we are plenty of relatively fit men in our 20s so we could gang up together to fend off a solo Methhead easily or what have you. Druggos don't operate in packs so we never had an issue.
>>2906579>amervican veed is not strongI swear Euros have some complex about their drugs being the "strongest" and refusing to accept otherwise. It's the same in Australia with beer, they're always going on about Aussie beers being shitty and watered down but somehow still manage to get themselves drunk enough to get into trouble
>>2907486Good American weed is masterfully cured and smokes smooth as butter, but man do these new high terp strains rape your skull if you are not a mega pothead. Some of them upwards of 2% terps. Insanity.
>>2906558There actually are hostels in the US, I've stayed in a few (LA, Savannah, SF, Seattle, DC all come to mind). I'm not sure why many seem convinced they don't exist. They're just not as common as they are in Europe nor as cheap, but they are much cheaper than hotels and generally pretty clean and cozy. As for why, yeah what everyone said, they need to be above a certain price level to keep crackheads and homeless people away. Plus America is just more expensive in general, compared to the cost of living in some of those cities I mentioned you can get a surprisingly cheap hostel bed downtown
The only time I tried to stay in a hostel in the US was in Boston, and both I tried to enter did not allow US nationals to stay there.
>>2907529only way to legally keep out the aggressive and mentally ill homeless
>>2907529That kinda sucks because Boston would be one of the few American cities where a hostel could be nice
>>2907529when i stayed at a hostel in NYC, they didn't allow any residents of the city
>>2907529Hmm, haven't seen a ban on US citizens - that sounds like discrimination based on nationality, which is illegal in the USA. Of course they can still tell you "sorry no vacancy" if they don't want you staying. Prohibitions on local residents >>2907606 are common in US hostels.
>>2907507There are tons of "I'm between places right now" transient Americans staying in US hostels. A lot of times they ruin the fun vibe with their hopelessness and low energy. 14 day per year stay limits ensure that they cycle through and don't stay forever. The hostel I stayed at in midtown Houston had a Fil-Am ricecel who sat on the porch all day sipping booze and never talking to anyone. Finally just before I checked out he asked my age and then said I look much younger which is rare for white people. Then we talked for about an hour before he had to go out and get some more wine boxes. >>2907543Most homeless street people do not have functioning credit cards able to be charged a $50 refundable deposit. Transients / travelers might not have a house, but most of us are somewhat hygienic, socially harmonious, pay our own way and functionally competent at basic life tasks. None of that shit applies to street people, who are completely dependent on charities and handouts as a general rule.
>>2906558you didn't check Trivago? bigteethman.jpg.
>>2906558> Make a hostel> Local hotel chains like Hilton, Days Inn etc all petition government to have it removed for "unsafe conditions" and basically competing with their hotel buxx chains.> hostel removed and forcefully vacated.> hostel owner in financial ruinThanks for playing a capitalism. Would you like to play again?
>>2909438 Get a job dysgenic commie
>>2909478You basically have to be an unhinged psychopath to make it these days. Did no one tell you?
>>2909438The hostel I stayed at in Houston was owned by an Indian who managed reception himself and only hired a housekeeper to clean the place once a day. Most American business owners HATE the idea of having to work a shift 7 days a week at their business, because it limits their ability to work on other enterprises, thereby incurring a steep opportunity cost. Hiring reception staff for $150 per shift adds up overhead way too fast for a smaller hostel. That's why they have to charge $50 a bunk. Thirdie hostels have staff working for peanuts, sometimes even unpaid altogether, so they can keep bunk prices low.
>>2906579The Nobody started the George Floyd revolution from the corner table at the Green Tortoise. He typed into a LibreOffice document, "From this corner I will move the world." and pressed Save. Then the local shopkeepers boarded up the windows and the ATMs. Then my African friends started shopping really really fast at CVS...("my African friends" is what I've got my Trigger Fixer browser extension to change the n-word to around here. I didn't know any of those guys, don't ask me. The Nobody did smoke a blunt with a young African American in the Green Tortoise smoking lounge that afternoon however, who said he thought the extreme action was a mind-control operation, that everyone had been pre-programmed by Grand Theft Auto...)>Verification was not required for this post.
>>2909517https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBGDJqvKSk
>>2906572Doesn't have to be crap. Also doesnt have to be violent or raucous
>login to airbnb>search place around some city I want to visit>at least a dozen options in most places where a house got turned into a multi room shared bunk hostelThey are everywhere OP, not sure what you're on about they just aren't as brick and mortar like other countries due to a slew of reasons out there.To be clear, if you're trying to travel the US on a shoe string budget of hostel pricing. You aren't going very far and probably should save up more.
>>2911659airbnb has violently sketchy cheap listingslike they do not police the listings at all and you can easily stay somewhere that's not fit for purpose and falling apartor weird hosts who try to scam you tech support is 100% jeet
>>2911672Never really been to any sketchy airbnbs in the USA, most all get listed pretty much what you expect them to be. The cheapest one I stayed at by LAX airport was shit but I knew that going in when it was 25/night
>>2911690Your speak as if you've visited to a significant % of the country's listings. There are random sketch houses. >>2911659>To be clear, if you're trying to travel the US on a shoe string budget of hostel pricing. You aren't going very far and probably should save up more.OP said "cheap", so you didn't really address his question. You're pretty much saying USA has expensive hostels. A 4bd house chopped up isn't really a hostel in the traditional sense anyways, at any price. USA is just shit for travel, as real estate prices are speculated on by every investor on the globe, hoarded by boomers, we are the origin of Airbnb, etc. On top of needing to set a minimum price to keep out druggies and other undesirables. USA is about being at your parent's house, your house, a friend's house, or like $150/night minimum (ok...maybe $110 if in middle of nowhere Wyoming). I'll just go international or stick to that
>>2911702I mean I think 40/night is pretty decent for something in LA that is hostel level, but hey you can always redefine "cheap".I feel people just expect SEA prices in a non SEA place.
>>2911711I'm not trying to be obtuse when I reply with this. That's cheap, for the area, but not a hostel. The topic was cheap hostels, not expensive hostels or cheap spare rooms. I'd also be surprised if the dude's place didnt need a rental car to be usable.
>>2907321>Feel free to kill yourself, isekai is waitinHow bout no
>>2911761>errm it doesn't have the bunk beds like a real hostel(tm) just shared beds in roomsOkay dude here you go, have your bunk beds downtown LA enjoy. These are what the large majority of hostels in America are, oh no they don't plaster the word hostel on it. Rooms with some shared beds thrown in instead of the 2x4 beds or cube holes you get in Asia.>I'd also be surprised if the dude's place didnt need a rental car to be usable.It's longbeach, that's where the metro line ends and you can walk to the big bus station/trainEither way you can get a hostel/shared room in a home for <300/wk in major cities, that's more than reasonable.>inb4 uhhh actually LA is le shit so uhh... <goalpost_moving> check out hostelworld and take your pick, I saw a few for 20/night which is about the going rate for cities that size
>>2911800Thats not a hostel
>>2911800To the contrary, hostels overseas have lots of tourist-centric amenities and pleasant shared spaces; they all compete on getting the best reviews and providing the most enjoyable experiences. Share houses in the US don't have jack shit; often there isn't even any on-site staff let alone activities or tours. They are places for migrant laborers and other brokies to sleep nightly/weekly if they don't have enough money or credit for a proper rental. So stop pretending you get more in the US, because you don't. You get a shaky fucking IKEA bunk bed for $40/night in a house full of sullen losers. Overseas you pay a third that price for something much better.
>>2911822>>2911863>okay sure it's a building renovated to be a hostal but it's not the kind of hostal I'm use to in BKK or Baliretards
>>2906563There's a special gate that blocks you from being black upon entry
>>2906581>Most Americans are intensely private people who feel very awkward in close quarters with strangers. Hence their dislike of public transit Why are they fine taking flights then?
>>2912681>carlos thinks this is a win because he swam to get here
