How bad of an idea would it be for an American to attempt to move to England? I'm finishing graduate school soon, and I don't want to look for a job in the US. I've visited England 6 times, but what is it like to actually live here?My main motivation is the public transport. I absolutely fucking hate driving. It terrifies me. I don't understand why something so dangerous and so expensive is widely accepted as being a necessity for everyday life. It is ruining my life, because my country has no good public transport.Many other European countries have good public transport, but I only speak English. Would I regret moving here? I love English people, and have several close friends who live there. I would only want to live somewhere that I can actually meet people, so no rural hamlets.
*arrests u for saying anything**arrests u for being silent**takes u to the star chamber**tortures u good**oh wow I love mushy peas I'm so glad I moved to fascism island*
>>2908111England has been in perpetual economic decline since the 70s.There's fuckall jobs there, especially outside of London.Unlike on the Continent "public" transportation in the UK is privatized which means it's utter shite. Just ask the locals.Place is full of gammons who voted for Brexit and don't like immigrants. You'll get a chilly reception AT BEST.It's also an Orwellian nightmare. CCTV cameras on every corner and the government monitoring all your electronic communications should be nothing new to you but in addition they also arrest you for watching TV without a telly license.The inability to buy guns would send you into a spiraling depression.
>>2908111>moving to Englandyoure picking the worst time to move here. Unless you have a job offer or have the skills/qualifications for a job that the country is screaming for, you will struggle. Salaries are also far worse than in the US. And then there is the nanny state controls in Britain which completely fuck us over. I hate what has happened in the last 20 years here.>main motivation is public transportif you dont mind taking the bus you can get this in most places including the US. If its the novelty of the tube or similar that doesnt give many cities to live in and I wouldnt recommend living in the cities at all.>I only speak Englishgood news is most cities in Europe are much better and speak English - Amsterdam immediately pops in my mind, its pretty much the main language. Check what easy visas are available for an American.
>>2908114>>2908120I wouldn't move there unless I had a job waiting for me, does that change your answer?No, busses in the US are absolute trash compared to busses in the U.K.
>>2908111That's it? The US or England? That's the scope of your imagination? England is a turbo dump. Most people who can leave and are flexible and adaptable by nature, do leave. 9,500 millionaires left the UK in 2024 that's approximately 26 per day. These are the people I'm talking about - the people who can leave, do. And you want to come in? Go live in Asia, like me, where public transport is infinitely better than utter shite we have in the UK.
>>2908111>utterly miserable weather for 3 months of the year>poor weather half of the other 9 months>good standard of living, ok wages>niggers and pakis in all cities, most towns, and some villages loitering on street corners trying to sell drugs to teenagers and sex-slave children.>pakis run the schools as sex slave recruitment centres>police entirely complicit>if u are sub6 male just being around white women is practically illegalBrit sub6 male here. I wouldn't raise a family here, but its ok for earning wages to go abroad and try do life. If u are a 6-7/10 u could betabux hard and try maintain a family while guarding your kids from pakis and niggers, if u are an +8/10 u can have a nice life here.
>>2908114>gets almost everything completely wrongThat being said OP, you will be singled out specifically for being American (being mean to non-whites and other Europeans leads to immediate ostracism if not imprisonment in the UK but Americans are somehow exempt from this). The 'gammons' are the most 'wont do shit' kind of people you'll encounter and you'd have to be in some heavily policed stadium to encounter them. The biggest annoyance would be the chuggers (charity muggers), but hassle is nothing like urban US.Public transport is poor as trains run on loading gauge, a narrower gauge than European trains and so the trains are thinner and can't be double deckers leading to reduced capacity and a worse experience all around. Bus services are not competitive enough even though Flixbus is starting to penetrate the market. Really the biggest issur on your end is pay. If you dont work in finance, salary is a joke in UK compared to US
the worst thing about living in england is that it is full of utter miserable cunts like the ones posting herein the uk, life is what you make it. you can be pretty sure that the dullard mouthbreathers in this thread are never going to make anything of it
If you want to. I willl likely move to the UK from Canada once my degree finishes next spring, at the minimum the UK is better than the shithole dystopia that is Canada. You are not going to find good advice on here because this board is filled with MAGAturds and pajeets.
>>2908176I doubt they live in England. Probably just copy-pasting from inbred qanon trumptard blogs or russian propaganda sites from their mothers basements in iowa. Trump supporters are so fucking stupid and easy to manipulate. Yes hate your own people, and the country that founded yours because uh no gunZzz and then they will cut half their dick off as tribute to their israeli epstein masters.
>>2908111Awful. Near American cost of living (or worse for housing) with half the salary. London is like Mississippi pay for Chicago cost of living.
You're welcome to refute any of the points other anons have raised.The emigration rates for young Britons are telling enough but if you need more evidence you can always take a trip there and speak with the locals to get their opinion on the subject.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS94-_zy3Dg
>>2908187>Near American cost of livinglol nope. our salaries appear lower but the cost of living in the uk or anywhere in europe is significantly different. quick example, in the usa the average cost of car insurance is $2400-$2600 per year. almost certainly more in places where people actually live. i don't currently have a car in the uk but a couple of years ago my insurance was about £300home insurance in the usa seems utterly bizarre. insurance companies can just cancel people's policies for any reason like having a messy back yard then the home owner has to beg the company to take them back or struggle to find another. and if they live in a high crime area or one of those places where there are tornadoes etc but for some reason people thought they would be a good place to live, they're basically fucked. meanwhile here i can go to a load of different websites and pick and choose from companies clamouring to insure my home. and let's not get on to the topic of health insurance eh"average" american salaries seem high but if you have a dozen people on minimum wage and one bloke exploiting them and making loads of money then that's what it will look like
>>2908199>the average cost of car insurance is $2400-$2600 per yeari should just add that this is for full coverage. of course if you just want a policy that just covers if someone nicks your car or whatever, it will be cheaper, but the corresponding policy will be cheaper elsewhere too
>>2908176dude Britain has a major annual increase of deaths and illness in the winter. There's something about cold, dark, damp for 3 months that drains the human body worse than other types of winter. For example sub-zero removes the moisture from the air so that respiratory disease doesn't spread as easily.Thing is most brits are oblivious to it; this curve doesn't exist in the Mediterranean. It's like the high number of heat stroke and car crashes in Thailand, the locals don't notice it and if u point it out to them, they don't care, and if u complained they'd probably label u a miserable cunt mouthbreather.
>>2908201>There's something about cold, dark, damp for 3 monthsSitting here in fucking Malaysia I would love a bit of British autumn and winter right now. In the UK I live in glorious Hampshire where the season of mists and mellow fruitfulness is the best time of the year. Fucking hell I never thought I would miss fucking Basingstoke
>>2908206Lol whingers have never experienced weather in the rest of the planet. Ill take the mild always comfy climate of the uk over 100% humidity, 35+ degree heat and a chud sun anyday
>>2908200Mine was $300, you must get in a lot of accidents
>>2908111The worst fucking places in Europe you could ever make the mistake of moving to is Ingerland, France and Germany. Have some fucking self respect and just try to learn the language of a less shitty European country. Better than moving to England, which I assume is your only option because you only speak English.
>>2908266Whats better Eastern europe is poor and at war, southern europe is a broke globohomo shithole, Scandinavia is reddit irl with a jihad dlc, dont say meme shitholes like Switzerland little mountain jew autistic karen country
>>2908268>easturn yurip is at wor
>>2908206>Fucking hell I never thought I would miss fucking BasingstokeLived there for a few years for work and it was a weird town, couldn't wait to move on honestly
>>2908299Yeah either that or broke boring shitholes like Lithuania or pooland
>>2908319>it was a weird town>couldn't wait to move on honestly>Lived there for a few yearswhat the fuck is wrong with you anon
>>2908114American schools have their own police forces that give kids lifelong criminal records for throwing paper planes in class. You get arrested for crossing the street at the wrong angle, gathering rainwater, not mowing your own front lawn and for not mutilating your children's genitals. Life expectancy in some states is a decade lower than in the UK.
>>2908111The UK is the ultimate suppository for all the scum of the earth Lived there (Manchester 2016) for 3 years and hated every minute of it
>>2908406>Lived there (Manchester 2016) for 3 years >and hated every minute of itwhat is wrong with you peopleif you hated every minute why didn't you just fucking move
>>2908114>Unlike on the Continent "public" transportation in the UK is privatized which means it's utter shite. Just ask the locals.so what? In japan its also privatized.But i do agree that subway in london is much noisier than in tokyo (not even people but train wheel noises)
I wouldn't. Unless you got a cynical or morbid outlook on life you will struggle to fit in. Lithuania is really good and everyone speaks perfect English.
>>2908738>Unless you got a cynical or morbid outlook on life you will struggle to fit in.>Move to LithuaniaLOL okay move to a place where it's chronically dark and bleak and people think smiling is a sign of mental illness
>>2908526I moved out of that shithole, I'm much happier now
UK is better for public transport than America, but that's not saying much.The downsides to England though can be a bit harrowing.>high taxes>lower median wages than the USA>mandatory health insurance taken out of your wages, not just something thats part of your tax bill>absolutely despotic police state even by American standards>shit weather>ridiculous rent and COL metricsand most importantly>no jobsUnless you're going to the UK with a professional designation (MD, PEng, red seal trade, etc.) you're better off staying in America or looking at Europe if you don't mind the taxes, have a job lined up and don't want abysmal weather and nanny state policing.Don't get me wrong, I do like parts of the U.K. especially Scotland but I'd never live there.
>>2908111It's really bad. The USA is better in every way. Public transport is shit everywhere in the UK outside of London. The housing is ridiculously expensive (relative to tiny UK salaries), low quality, and small. You would find it to be a sick joke.The "culture" is being a really fucking small minded droog on benefits. The highest aspiration of most of the population is being, or having the personality of, a day time game show host.It's extremely over-regulated, which means job options are shit and the pay is shit.
>>2908385This board is all trump supporters or pajeets. Oh yes I want the USA's palantir social credit system where they will imprison you for mocking israel, or flock cameras everywhere. These mouthbreathers will suck off trump until the orange retard collapses their dying country. Literal dumb fucks bitch about whiteness and the number one countries they hate are european nations. Dumb goyim.
>>2908791Compared to Canada it's cheaper with higher wages. Police state is a meme pushed by tabloids, but have fun with your literal social credit system and customs that check your social media for anti-israel wrongthink. Weather is comfortable year round 0-20C, among the best in the world desu. Only brown people want to live in hot and humid jungle where you sweat your balls off all day. And as for wages, unless you're a big tech worker you're poor in the USA.>>2908809USA is better for school shootings. Brick houses are better than stick houses in the USA. And I'm fairly certain your projecting your obese meth addiction republican state culture onto others with drugs here buddy.
>>2908818UK is widely considered the worst country in the world, literally no one wants to go there except African rape gangs who are paid to live there in luxury hotels
>>2908818>Weather is comfortable year round 0-20CTemperatures are good, but it rains all the goddamn time.Also I never said go to Southern Europe, I find Northern France (Bretagne, Normandie specifically) to be a good possible spot along with Slovenia and Austria. Switzerland would be dope for nature alone but the COL is fucking ridiculously high.
>>2908818>stick housesit's cardboard now. literal cardboard.new build houses have a bad rep everywhere. but jeez, fucking cardboard
>>2908791>>absolutely despotic police statelol you have no idea what a police state actually ishere is a simple example. in the uk we have mainstream television programmes that openly criticise our politicians, royal family and senior business leaders with no reprisals. have a look at any episode of mock the week, have i got news for you etcnow have a look at what happens if you criticise the government or royals in actual police states. even here in "moderate" malaysia, openly criticising the royal family is taboo (one of the "three Rs"- race, religion, royalty- that are going to get you into trouble if you speak out about them)>even by American standardsremember trump threatened to shut the network down after kimmel made a few jokes about him. meanwhile when farage went on hignfy they absolutely ripped into him and he just laughed it off
>>2908998Yep, the UK throwing 10,000 people per year in prison for Facebook posts criticizing Muslim rape gangs is a good thing and whatever trump said is obviously bad because orange man bad
>>2908996>new build houses have a bad rep everywhere. but jeez, fucking cardboardDo you feel smart when you say something this retarded?
>>2908998> one of the "three Rs"- race, religion, royalty- that are going to get you into trouble if you speak out about themOf these three, the only “R” you can speak out about safely is royalty. Big deal. Oh, you can get racial if you want to disparage Europeans/native Brits and you can criticize Christianity I guess.
>>2908111I moved from Indiana to Scotland in 2015. I make less money than I would back home but in every other regard it's far superior. I've visited England and it's much the same.
>>2909004>>2909018>this is what /pol/tards actually believeanon behave>>2909009>Do you feel smart when you say something this retarded?don't shoot the messenger, retardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfyZBhq4XM
>>2909553>>2908996>don't focus on the rule, pay attention to these exceptionsMeanwhile 95% of British homes don't have air conditioning, despite thousands of heat related deaths each year. They just can't afford them.
>>2909643>On the 3 days a year it gets above 25 degrees. Half of the USA is at sandnig latitudes.
>>2909645Oregon is at the same latitude as France and is bigger than the UK
As a rough guide just stick to anywhere where Greggs outnumber Prets
>>2908114You people are the reason I left for good.
>>2908152>9,500 millionaires left the UKGood riddance
>>2908268Why even move to Europe if you don't like those things
>>2908845>African rape gangs who are paid to live there in luxury hotelsI have no idea where the fuck you got this from but it sounds like Russian disinformation Nigel Farage would whinge about.
>>2908111as a brit, please don't move here. I'm actually sick of yanks in my country, please stay where you are. no more yanks and ozzies, enough
>>2908998Cool, now let's try criticising mass immigration or Pakistani rape gangs on live television
>>2909754How about more africans and Indians then. Bet you don't dare complain about those groups
>>2909750Its doesnt mean entrepreneurs etc, the millionaires are retiree boomers moving to spain. Misleading stat. And epstein associates can fuck off anyway
>>2908111I bet if you became a skilled laborer you could probably swang and bang over there but whatever grad school means... I mean if its CS good luck with the only tech company being ARM. If its librarian fuck it the jobs always suck anyway but the benefits there are better.
>>2909645Cope however you want. Not being able to set the temperature of your fucking house, while thousands of your countrymen die from the heat, is the most poverty thing I've ever heard of in my life. Now combine that with having among the least amount of living space per house in the world and it's like England never left the 1800s.
>>2909759>UK>entrepreneursYeah man that's where all English-speaking people want to start a business. The famously business friendly United Kingdom.
>>2909756yes i do you cretin, i just want britain to remain as is, at least for a long time so things go back to normal.
>>2908111England is great if you have money or make a very good living.If you're moving there to live like a middle class person then a cracked out migrant rapist will have more rights than you and you will lose most of what you make to taxes and ridiculous rents.
>>2909643>They just can't afford themthis is one of those stupid shit things that americans believeaircon is not expensive. in thirdie countries even relatively poor people have several aircon units in their homes. believe me if you can afford a house in the uk you could afford aircon if you wanted itmost houses in the uk don't have aircon because 99.9% of the time they don't fucking need it. or at least up until recently. now the world is permanently burning i would guess that more new buildings will have aircon installed as a default or at least have the provision for it to be easily installed.
>>2909789You mouthbreathing fuck euros can afford AC easy its that they don't need it because they aren't living at north african latitudes. Fuck you magatards are next level retarded no wonder trump rapes your ass so ez
Barely goes above 25C in the UK. 5C - 20C temperature year round outside of freak heat waves.
>>2909996>most houses in the uk don't have aircon because 99.9% of the time they don't fucking need itThis is pure sour grapes anon - claiming that you don't want something you don't have the ability to obtain. Thousands of bongs died in heat waves this year. The country needs AC desperately. Unfortunately, it's a poor country with small houses and very low salaries so it just can't buy them.
>>2910035Same cope as the other anon. Sour grapes. Heat waves kill thousands of Germans every year. Patients writhe in discomfort in hospitals that reach over 40 C, yet Germans are unable to provide them with livable temperatures, simply because air conditioners cost too much money for Europoors.
>>2910038Instead of spreading fake data, you could just buy air conditioners. Or rather, you could if you had any money.
>>2910056>>2910059>>2910061sweet jesus you can tell when the american shitposting hours begin
>>2909996Lmao just admit you cant afford air conditioning. Its really not your fault your government takes all your money to pay for african rape gangs and war on Russia like what are you gonna do fight back?
>>2910061>Highest temperatures>During one of europes biggest heatwaves in history >Still colder than Texas where 40C+ temps are the daily norm
>>2908111>moving INTO insect island
>>2910056>>2910061>>2910066How much do you retards think aircon costs? How can bongs afford to spend money on crap like solar panels, extensions, conservatories, new driveways, triple glazing, loft conversions, and all the other crap you routinely see even on deanoboxes if they're all too poor to buy an hvac unit and some ducting?
>>2910272This paki retard doesn't know air-conditioning uses electricity which costs almost triple in the UK prison rape country while their income is less than half.
>>2910056Average life expectancy for a man in West Virginia is 68.1Average life expectancy for a man in England is 79.4
>>2910285>living longer in prisonLmao, nice cope Nigel>likelihood of being raped to death by pakis and turned into kebab in England 22%
>>2910272Mutts brag about their air conditioning the same way pajeets in brampton brag about their honda civics
>>2908111how is that a sane decision at all?you'll be begging to return in no time
>>2910323They are just amazed at ur cope and poverty
>>2908111I would strongly recommend against this.
>>2908818There are healthier and more productive ways to improve your nation than getting mad at superior americans lad.
>>2910333Every day I wake up, and thank God I'm not an Amerilard.
>>2910343America has its tards but other western shitholes everyone is like that
>>2910308Americans are the most incarcerated nation on EarthUS prison population>580 per 100,000UK prison population>136 per 100,000
>>2910333>healthieras long as you've got that brain worm guy in charge, people dying of fucking measles, massive jumps in the prices of basic medicines that are not covered by health insurance, an increasing number of food scares etc etc etc it's probably best you stay away from anything relating to "healthy" in your attempts at insults. at this point americans should be praying for european food standards
>>2910399The UK is an open air prison with Africans and Pakistan as the jailers
>>2910401Exactly, Canada is dying
>>2908111>Wants to take a weekend trip to the UK for a con from Ireland>Flight is like $40>Weekend Stay at a Hotel is like $300What the fuck. I was told traveling around the EU was cheap as hell. It is way more expensive than taking a weekend trip around Latam
>>2910492>I was told traveling around the EU was cheap as hell. it is>It is way more expensive than taking a weekend trip around Latamcool, go there instead then. fucking whiner
>>2910515Any tips on how to save on mini trips like weekend outings? Would be cool to discover more of EU while I'm here. I'm not expecting $2 total but I'm fairly noobish when it comes to traveling alone
>>2910529where are you?how long are you there?what do you like to do?do you only have weekends?
See the tomb of Napoleon III
>>2910531Eastern Ireland2 yearsNot really into travelling per say but I'd like to play in tournaments, meet new friends, go to gaming/series conventions and honestly just honoring my grandfather's wishes of visiting London, Roma and Paris at least once.Not really restricted to weekends, but I'm studying a Masters Degree and don't know my schedule quite yet. I just assume I have weekends somewhat free.
>>2910544>Eastern Irelandok well the good news is that all the cities you mentioned (london, rome, paris) are all easily accessible from dublin on budget airlines- ryanair (justifiably the butt of all airline jokes) or aer lingus (a bit better but not much)the bad news is that they are all expensive cities. but london or paris you can easily do on a day return (i used to know some people who basically commuted between dublin and london several times a week), but rome is a bit further. from any of the main airports you can easily get trains or buses to most other cities>2 yearsok plenty time to see a lot of europe, make the most of it>Not really into travelling per say but I'd like to play in tournaments, meet new friends, go to gaming/series conventions and honestly just honoring my grandfather's wishes of visiting London, Roma and Paris at least once.i guess you mean like card game tournaments rather than jousting or something. every city has those kind of events. just google itlondon has a massive comic con, about as big as san diegofrance and italy actually have bigger ones but not in paris or rome. lucca (italy) is the biggest one in europe>Not really restricted to weekends, ok. weekends are always going to be more expensive than other days>but I'm studying a Masters Degree and don't know my schedule quite yet. I just assume I have weekends somewhat free.of course you should be devoting your time to intense study and mastery of your subject
keep in mind that your salary will be massively lower in england than it will be in americayou want good public transport so you'll be living in a major city which is expensive and you'll be on a graduate salary which is unlikely to be much more than £30kyou'll be struggling financially for at least the first year or twothat said, it's a comfy place full of soul and charm and good times and that might be worth it for you
>lower salary>rape level taxes and rent>society and investment declining>retarded government>most of the UK is car centric just like burgerland>as a brit i'd kill to move the the USA or dubaino lmao move to NYC or something if you can get a job, they have public transport there. unless you get like an insanely good job in london and for some reason like it there. it's a tradeoff you are going to need to takeor just go to an actual good country like china or vietnam
>>2908114People say this but I don't believe it. If guys can come here from India with no social skills, barely competent, and still get a decently paid job because they have the qualifications I'm sure any white man will do fine here. I don't know the stats but just from experiencing living here I'd say they are a lot of jobs
>>2908112Crazy how the UK isn't even a free country anymore. If you told me this years ago I wouldn't have believed it. Who saw this coming? It's mad
>>2908176And what have you made of it? Describe your lifestyle for us and make us losers jealous
>>29082013 months? That would be like October to December, I'd love it if we had it that easy. You are quite the optimist haha. Have you actually lived here?
>>2912645>>2912645Saw someone today on Japanese Twitter saying they didn't want their country to end up like south Africa or The UK.
>>2912649What a line. This world is crazy
>>2912645None of the west is free. 2020-2022 showed that USA/Europe is a dystopia ran by epstein associates and for some reason no one cares at all.
>>2912649Bearing in mind that east asians hold white people with the same contempt that whites hold for brown people.
>>2912657It was free. Jim Norton was calling people niggers just yesterday. And in the UK everyone openly saw trannies as freaks. Nobody was bloody arresting you
>>2912660Were the peasants ever allowed to disobey the crown?
>>2912662Talking crap about eachother isn't going about Royalty, you sausage. It's being human
>>2912662citizens of the uk are free to criticise their political leaders and royalty without fear of them getting all offended and getting the person fired and threatening to shut the station down or refusing their reporters access to government buildings
>>2912658so whites cuck them and live rent free in their heads, which causes them to get cucked more and live even more rent free in their heads?
>>2912674You are responding to the white incel poltard. He hates himself and hates white men of action even more
>>2912679>t. pajeet with a cuckolding fetishOkay sissy femboy get back to posting bmwf BNWO spam
>>2912797>bmwf BNWOyou can always tell when american shitposting hours start on here
>>2912807You didnt deny being a pajeet I noticed.
>>2912831White incels call everyone a pajeet
>>2912836>Oh my blaady benchod whites r incel saaaarSo which one are you then rajesh if not a jeet, a nog? A spic? A chang? Sandnig?