You guys don't stay in apartments when you travel, right? I've heard it's impossible to get any peace and quiet because of neighbors.
If anything apartments are usually more quiet than hotels as it's filled with normal people on the 9-5 grind wanting peace. You don't have Chang and his wife drunken yelling at eachother at 2AM because he's drunk and looked at the waitress earlier that day.
>>2909261You wear silicon earplugs and the problem goes away>I dOnT wAnT tO
>>2909261>wasting money on lodging I normally sleep in dumpsters
I've stayed in a few "aparthotels." They are apartments with long-term tenants, but they still have hotel-style service for short-term guests. I did not think they were particularly noisy. If anything, they may have been a little bit quieter.
>>2909262Which ends up as tourists staying at otherwise quiet apartments, going in and out at random hours, talking all night, dragging luggage along the floor at 5 am, dropping heavy backpacks at 11 pm after a long day of adventure, and blasting nigtok videos to wind down being the real noise makers. And don't say >but I don't watch tiktokNobody cares, faggot. That's some "but I did eat breakfast" ass shit of a reply. You're a nuisance in countless other ways that are too numerous to list.
>>2909357>Why yes I DO base my entire opinion around the shit I dealt with in Bangkok and Chiang Mai! How did you know!Not sure what shitholes you stay in, but unless it's one of those shitty buildings that are 50/50 specifically for cheap tourists. No? Maybe if you are sorting Airbnb's and Vrbo's by cheapest or in the tourist hot spots, sure. This sounds like a (You) problem. Taiwan I do apartments non stop, 0 issue walls are thickKorea same way, only heard my neighbor(who was just a korean living in the building) once because he was drunk and passed out in the hallway Malaysia, don't think I can recall ever hearing anyone in the hallway other than Malay's who don't know what an "indoor" voice isPH, always locals being the loudest because phone at max volume = only possible way to listen to somethingJapan? Same but my Airbnb's have been aparthotel style places so more or less expectedEverything you listed literally sounds and reminds me of the one time I got fucked by my bank, had to book a cheap ass apartment in SEA, and it was just trash. Though that was some Chinese people who leased the entire place, outside like the top floor, to tourists for money.
>>2909261You've never lived in apartment have you? I don't hear shit and I know my neighbour has two loud ass kids.>>2909345Fanciest man on /trv/
>>2909361As expected. A "but I DID eat breakfast" ass response. You are the nuisance and the reason places are banning AirBNBs.
>>2909422What the fuck are you blabbering about anon?The "but I did eat breakfast" is about grasping hypotheticals and envisioning those scenarios. So if anyone here is using that tier of response it's you for being incapable of being able to imagine a situation other than what you think the situation of the OP is. The replies you quoted did agree there are hypotheticals out there and alluded to the context you usually bump into them.Apartments are often more soundproofed because they don't know exactly what types of people they will be housing, families, kids, people who play instruments, day workers vs night workers, etc. This means generally, they add in additional insulators to counteract possible noises to ensure occupants don't hear Timmy going through his terrible two's or Fred crying during his alcoholic bender.The only places that often don't accommodate for those things are the cheaposhit boxes that are looking to house the lower class of the society in them and just having a roof over their heads is enough. These places constantly have people flipping a few rooms into airbnb because shitbox EU/US :( but shitbox asia? :O. So you do hear some of the bigger noise complaints but it's expected due to the quality of the complex.Like, you've stayed in apartments back home right? Did you notice or care if Bill at 203 went to work at 5AM for his work, or people stumbling in after the bar? No because like most people you didn't notice or hear them because you chose a place that took steps to dampen that traffic. tl;dr only going to notice that in shitbox apartments, which you seemed to choose and applied it to every situation.
>>2909431>What do you mean "how would I feel if I didn't eat dinner?" The hypothetical is supposed to be about breakfast only. How can you ask about dinner when I already ate dinner?
>aussie posting hours>anon doesn't even understand the point of the thought experiment for the meme he is forcingFucking hell
>>2909442If you really think Asian apartments, famous for having no insulation of any sort whatsoever, are quiet because they're highly insulated and not because everyone else is quiet, then you are retarded. And if you're acting under the assumption that those apartments are insulated and sound isn't going through, you're massive ridiculous amounts of noise without realizing it. The only reason you think you're being quiet is because those people are quietly enduring your noise.Anyone who actually lives in Asia knows that the walls are paper thin and that noisy tourists (you) are a problem. That's why places like Shinjuku are banning Airbnbs.If you have to sit here and say >How can I be a nuisance? I'm not hearing the neighborsThen it is the same exact thing as saying>How can I know how it feels to not eat breakfast? I did eat breakfastIt's quiet because the people around you are quiet. You're not hearing the noise you're making for other people because you're not aware of your own noise. Now take your faggot ass 2 digit IQ back to tiktok.
>>2909444>If you really think Asian apartments, famous for having no insulation of any sort whatsoever, are quiet because they're highly insulated and not because everyone else is quiet, then you are retarded.WTF are you talking about? Building and therefor apartments in earthquake prone areas often have very sturdy concrete walls which do not pass sound very easily. Most proper apartments have thick doors as well to not only insulate heat/cold air but block out sound out right. This is common for apartments all over the world not just Asia.You booked some cheap ass place in SEA didn't you?>That's why places like Shinjuku are banning Airbnbs.You didn't even read the reasoning for that, mfl. The main reasoning was that housing code violations were basically fucking up current complexes, which chang and friends tried to make X floor into a hostel which the buildings were not designed for; again these are often very cheap economy apartments. The "ban" still allows many places to host airbnb, albeit no more than 180 days a year per listing/address akin to Kyoto's rules. Either way it supplements the post saying that those places have shit soundproofing, this is accurate.>If you have to sit here and sayOr I can listen to what it sounds like normal day to day from my room, realize very quickly the level of volume needed to permeate the walls, and realize "huh okay better be a normal person and not be a loud retard". Generally you can tell simply be walking down the hall and/or seeing the building what kind of soundproofing it has. Again, this isn't a problem for most anyone who didn't book a roach den apartment complex.Just admit you booked a cheap shitty place and didn't realize it didn't come with that good of soundproofing. We've all been there done that, learn the lesson to not book some shit place and read reviews about possible noise issues.What shithole did you wind up in?
>>2909444The second half of your post doesn't work in this regard because your OP and rational already has a conclusion and correct answer you've determined. The point of the thought experiment of "what if you didn't do X" is to explore if the person can explore the possibility hypotheticals and consequences of those situations. You're incapable of exploring hypotheticals that apartments can have proper insulating materials to combat and outright block noise. You're also incapable of exploring the hypothetical of if apartments had proper sound proofing to combat this what the outcome would be; you've defeated the point of the experiment as you've drawn a "correct" answer rather than explore the rationalization of the world.You assume all people do loud things without any regard for people simply being mindful of their surroundings. Thus all apartments are bothered by people 24/7, because of course only tourists can be loud, have baggage, talk in the hallways, or do any activity that permeates the soundproofing of an apartment 24/7(which no, people wouldn't move themselves or their families into them if true). Any alternative to this situation is wrong and any other situation real or hypothetical can not exist in this world, because you're trying to lead people to a specific answer.You are the smooth brained prisoner in this scenario, because you fail to understand the entire point of the "what if you didn't have breakfast" scenario.
>>2909446It actually sucks for wifi in Asia because the thick concrete walls block basically everything.I need a few different repeaters and ethernet over power things to reliably get internet in my apartment, the walls are like 300mm of concrete, nothing gets through
>>2909446>Building and therefor apartments in earthquake prone areas often have very sturdy concrete walls which do not pass sound very easily.The fact you say this really shows you know nothing about Japanese architecture. Loads of apartments aren't 鉄筋 but rather 木造、and those pass sounds right through. About 55% of places are 木造. As a tourist, you would never know which it is because the people around you are quiet. But as a resident, one noisy person will ruin the whole surrounding area. Plus doors aren't soundproof either, so one noisy fuck in the corridor at 1 AM is enough to make a ruckus. Repeat this noise every fucking night because a new tourist is coming in daily. But none of this applies to you anyways because you've never been to Japan. You just watch anime and think it's future land with immunity to earthquakes and that things are air tight. Anyone who actually lives in Japan knows that's retarded. https://35s.co.jp/chukyotvh/hcolumn/46/Link for the 55% of homes not being concrete for your dumb weeb ass.
>>2909460>OP is about Apartments>LOOK HOUSES MADE OF WOODCool reframing of the topic.I get you're trying to just reframe your OP because you are mad you booked a cheap place, but many modern apartment complexes, not guest houses, not homes, not duplexes, are concrete. Wood can be excellent at soundproofing, assuming the insulation you put between the drywall or walls is done properly. Guess what a lot of those older shit houses and guest houses don't have to keep cost down and tailor to the lower income economy? Just that they have thin walls to keep the buildings overall cost to rock bottom. Do better research next timeBy your own logic, 45% of all housing IS concrete, and dense material. So why are you picking places with bad soundproofing?>Plus doors aren't soundproof either, so one noisy fuck in the corridor at 1 AM is enough to make a ruckus.>Repeat this noise every fucking night because a new tourist is coming in daily.Okay, there it is. So you booked a shitty apartment that got rented out for airbnb/whatever specifically and mad. Guess why it's rented out or made into a cheap shitbox for tourists? Because they don't know any better and willing to pay 1.25-2.5x market rate of a local for some POS. This reminds me of that anon who lost his mind because he stayed down in Tennoji station in Osaka like it was some cheap hidden deal, then found out how shit the sound proofing is in those old ass cheap tofu tier buildings.Only took you like 8 posts to finally come out to say you picked a shitty place tailored to tourists.
>>2909465Only you are talking about houses.
>>2909261I look for places with thin walls because I like hearing people having sex
>>2909414These are the same anons who snore so loudly that you can hear them in the next room, with earplugs in. Of course they don't hear anything, they sleep like pigs in the mud.
>>2909261If anyone is making noise I just pound on their door and threaten to kill them, then they stop.
>>2909467Your link you provided primarily talks about single family housing.
>stay in multiple apartments in Japan, Korea, Malaysia>book in the 500-700/mo range to not be shoved in with the slop>never notice anyone other than maybe the random japanese dude sniffing really loudly or whatever it is and maybe a roll of luggage around 7-8am>stay in HK apartment>CHING WA YO KA WA PING DONG at 3 or 4 AM>random fights in the hallway because that's where you need to scream at your wife>stay in Manila>random people absolutely blasting their TV or cellphone with some shitty talk show whenever possible in the halls>stay in Thailand(post weed)>smells seep in of weed>aussies or bongistans AW YE BRUV/M8 FUCKING WASTED MAN SO FUCKING WASTED I LOST ME FOOKIN WALLET BRUV/M8 IM SO FUCKING WASTED MAN>book aparthotel in scandinavia>random shouting of 2-3 words randomly for no reason then nothing happens like every night for no reasonNot sure how you manage to get a trashy place in Japan unless you booked one of the cheapest possible places to find that are just glorified guest houses sold to gaijins for a 3x markup compared to the local rent.
>>2910586The fact you can hear sniffing at all is proof those walls are thinner than you think. That means everyone is hearing everything you do.
