>stand here>give us your boarding pass>give us your passport with all your biometric data>scan your face>LOOK AT THE CAMERA>give us your fingerprints>give us your boarding pass again>stand there>DO YOU HAVE ANY FRUIT???I'm done travelling until I figure out a way to leave the west entirely.
>waaaaah im a crybaby >waaaaah im an incelOk now what?
>>2909970>screw this nonsense, I'll just jump the gat-*ACK*!!!
>>2909970>all this just to not have to stamp a passportThis is the worst part of all. I want my stamps dammit
>>2909970>a way to leave the west entirely.i'm curious to know what part of the world you plan to go to that doesn't have security checks at airports
>>2909997Yeah, just let them take visa free travel from you. Fall in line.
>>2909970>until I figure out a way to leave the west entirelyYeah, because it's so much better in the non-West, ie China, Russia and so on.
>>2910003huh? who said anything about visas? i am a citizen of a civilised country anon, i can already travel to 180+ places in the world without a visa (or with a visa-on-arrival), at least for tourismvisa free travel is a relatively recent phenomenon in some places of course. largely enabled by electronic passport controls, biometric passports etc
>>2910006You jest, but the BRICS bot farms spamming /pol/ have unironically mindbroken a lot of low-iq western zoomers
>>2909994>I want my stamps dammiti miss those too. and proper boarding passes
>>2910013If you're filling out the same information to enter a country as a visa, it's a visa. Shove your preclearance gaslighting nomenclature up your ass.
>>2910016i'm going to guess you've never been to a place that actually requires a visastill wondering what places in the world you think don't have security checks at airports
>>2910018Trolling outside of /b/ is a baneable offense newfags.
>>2909970When I arrived in LAX they didn't even have me talk to a Customs agent. US citizen line, face scan at a kiosk and you're good to go, "keep walking" from the guy supervising the face scanning kiosks. I was shocked when I popped out in the arrivals waiting area without even presenting my passport. Evidently I've been put on some Goodest Goy Traveler list.>>2909989These autogates didn't work for me in Bangkok either. I just went to the agent and got an exit stamp. Third World technology is always always glitching and failing.
>>2909989>>2910020if you watch what the guy is actually doing he is making the common mistake of looking down at his passport rather than looking at the screeni see people doing stupid shit like this all the time. they look up or down or look back at their mates or look at their fucking phones. anything except for what they are supposed to be doing while a queue builds up behind themoh and that guy is also making the mistake of believing that because he is chinese he has a special place in the world. that's propaganda for ya
>>2910019>a baneable offensebaneable? you mean like the cartoon guy?
>>2909970Write and call your representatives. Government is getting out of control
>>2910016Do you have to obtain "preclearance" approval, or pay a fee to apply? If so, then it is a de facto e-visa.Many visa free countries slip an arrival fee into the plane ticket and also require registration of arrival. But there is no approval or denial result with the arrival card. You simply submit it and that's that.Visa on arrival is hardly a visa either, more like a foreigner registry. Just like Mexico's supposedly visa-free travel for Americans that is really a visa on arrival.
>>2910020Are you retarded? Even children can figure these out. I've also been through the Bangkok airport. That chink just slapped his passport on a random page haphazardly like he was making an NFC payment on his phone. Of course the gates weren't going to open.>>2910021>oh and that guy is also making the mistake of believing that because he is chinese he has a special place in the world100%
>>2910006>>2909997Stay in a hostel in modern day, I stay in private rooms in hostels still and man... Gen whatever the age group that is 22-28 is so fucking cooked.
>>2910054>Stay in a hostel inLiteral cattle
>>2910057I met Ever Anderson in a hostel once.
>>2910057Why? I get a full kitchen, some have breakfast included, work area + lounge to hang out at, common area to pregame in and drink with others before the weekend night activities kick in, and room cleaning. Every hostel I've stayed in has been super close to public transport and has more relaxed rules regarding holding luggage and checkin/check out. Most are often still cheaper than hotels in the area, and GOAT for avoiding holiday crunch costs.I prefer them over airbnb(depending on the place), sure if you're in SEA like thailand they will be literal slop but I'm not staying in "party" bali style 2x4 bunks.
>>2909970Since you're from the "west" I assume you have a powerful passport, so these formalities should normally take a minute or two max.
>>2910080yes spying on your citizenry and turning the country into china communism only takes a few moments bahh bahhh
>>2910095you are being spied on wherever you areare you american? you sound retarded enoughtell us more about your flock cameras anon
>>2909974Now you're ready to travel.
>>2909970you forgot the 3D nude scan in the swoop radiation machine that anhilates your sperm count
>>2910095The true red pill is when you discover that even China isn't as strict as the west. Chinese airports just glance at your passport and wave you in if you're white. No probing, no interrogations, no caring whether you have meats or fruits in your luggage. If the drug sniffing dogs don't come up to you, then they have no reason to care about you because they know you're not a threat.
>>2910127only the US airport really does this. The absolute worst. Even when you are just transferring through. Force you to stand in one huge ass unventilated hall with screaming children, puke everywhere, and like two or three officials taking their sweet ass time.
>>2910127getting into China is easy but then you have to scan your passport every time you hop onto a train and they x-ray your bag at every train and metro station (tbf the workers at those machines and at the metal detector hardly check anything since they are bored out of their minds, but your movements between cities are tracked)
>>2910127If you think china is so free and great why don't you move there?
>>2910127>China isn't as strict as the westgood grief there are some idiots on this board
>leave the west I've got bad news for you...
>>2910151Nobody gets the phones checked when going to China. America arrests people for not giving them passwords upon entry. Go on and do your gymnastics and justifications for how it's actually freedom and good and you should just obey the law. I won't read them.
>>2910171>Americaah i see where the confusion has arisen anon. i live in a normal civilised country, not america
>>2910095>your citizenryAre you getting this shit when trying to enter your own country? I can understand that being annoying. When I re-enter the UK, I just hold my passport to the egate and that's it, takes 10 seconds.If you're getting it when entering other countries then it's fair enough. Countries have the right to keep careful track of who's entering and what they're bringing with them. As long as you keep your passport and boarding pass to hand and answer their basic questions without complaining, it's still barely an inconvenience.For people with weak passports (india, afghanistan, etc) I hear the experience is very different and actually worth complaining about. You and I have western passports so we can enter almost any country with just a few quick formalities. We're very lucky.
>>2910177>>2910171You incels believe the dumbest things
>>2910183during covid we had to install apps on our phones and fill out online forms and shit to come back TO OUR OWN COUNTRYI wanted to spit in the pajeet's face at YVR when he asked if I was a canadian citizen
>>2910188>during covidgood grief are you stupid fuckers still going on about thatit was fucking ages ago anon, get over it
>>2910184https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/man-allegedly-wiped-phone-border-025027585.htmlGo on. Move your goalposts.
>>2910196precedent is precedent, we're not going to forget what you weasels tried to do
>>2910206lol when did this board get so full of paranoid fucknuts
>>2910208>paranoid fucknutsLike those pushing for and accepting needless overreach in the name of safety?
>>2909970>DO YOU HAVE ANY FRUIT???Your answer to that question is "You're looking at him."
Commercial interests will immediately use this technology to create anti competitive split pricing, and governments are already trying to extend it to domestic travellers. The most likely outcome is that travel will become very, very expensive for the ordinary person. And since covid it's become very expensive already.
Like I don't want to pay $50 more for my flight because biometric data says I'm European, $50 more because my father flew business 5 years ago, $50 more to avoid the new migrant class, and $50 more to pay for the scanner itself. Regardless of what the intent is here, the very first think businesses will do is use this technology and laws to profiteer
>>2910342Take your meds commie
>>2910347I don't think anyone wants to give corporates this power. It's a threat to our individual liberty, to social equity and national security all at once. Do you want to pay to have someone scan your face, assign you to a single check in gate, prevent you buying specific tickets and then get harassed in other counties because we're harassing their nationals?Do you even travel or are you the American domestic tourist scum
>>2910360The deep state filled your head full of shit to scare you now you are a commie retard talking about profiteering
>>2910208It's literally one seething basement-dwelling virgin neet from /pol/. Don't give him attention.
>>2910342>Like I don't want to pay $50 more for my flight because biometric data says I'm European, $50 more because my father flew business 5 years agoIn what fantasy world do you live in where this happens?
>>2910342>>2910391airlines already use dynamic pricing and there are rumours that some airlines are starting to use AI in their pricing modellast year Delta hotly denied doing this but then said they have "AI powered pricing functionality". anon's example is extreme but it's really just a matter of time before something like that is implemented
>>2909970airport security is quite possibly the worst part of travelingbut you’re also retarded if you think fleeing the west to a shittier third world country is the solution
>>2910398In other words you have nothing except /pol/cel fearporn fantasies.
>>2910404>not loving corporations is /pol/Sure. And?
>>2910404eh? i saw a video about it the other day and i thought it was interesting. a lot of industries are moving to dynamic pricing, it's inevitable some of them will use AI to do so. the obvious one is concert tickets where dynamic pricing is already a thing. stop being so predictably vituperative for a while and do some fucking googling about it
>>2910404It's literally one seething basement-dwelling virgin neet from /pol/. Don't give him attention.
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>>2910020>didn't work for meI've used them a dozen times and never once had a problem, looks like a skill issue
>>2910390>He's paki saaar
>>2910171>Nobody gets the phones checked when going to China.Yes they do. Try going to Uyghurstan or Tibet. If china is so great why don't you move there?
>>2910398They only have this capacity notionally because while you can still purchase the same ticket through multiple channels, you're still a market buyer. The issue with the technology is that the airline can simply refuse to sell a ticket to anyone who hasn't previously identified, logged in, at which point no matter where you buy a ticket from you're getting the same price. The price is based on your identity. And you can watch the guy next to you pay half as much, nothing you can do about it. For example if used to get seriously discounted flights by spoofing browser sessions in a different language at internet cafes, navigating side-by-side, because the airlines just assumed people flying from Thailand to China who's language was Chinese were Chinese nationals. It's not a hypothetical issue.
I did indeed have fruit and am glad they reminded me.
>>2913174Noone cares nerd
>>2909970
>>2910127That's Asia in general. Nobody feels a need to carry a weapon in the street for self-defense. Police don't approach you ready to open fire, demanding you keep your hands in plain sight. Impulsive violence and mental insanity is much less common per capita than in America.That doesn't mean it's not strict. There's a lot of petty crimes and expressive behaviors you can get away with in US cities that you would be fined or jailed for in China. >>2910080US border security varies hugely; most of the interrogation occurs when their system suspects you of being involved in some sort of transnational crime, or else being a brokepacker/mental case who will create problems if admitted. The agents just do what their computer tells them to do.
>>2910027If the autogates or immigration check-in machines don't work after half a dozen tries by both you and the staff, they don't fucking work. There's no "figuring it out". US passport bio pages are extremely glossy; even capturing a photo without glare (required for SIM card registration among other things) is a huge hassle for US passports.
>>2913174No matter how many times you keep repeating your /pol/cel fearporn fantasy, it will simply not become true. The reason is that you do not understand other people are not as submissive as you and do not live in a state of constant fear. You would let anyone walk over you, others will not.
>>2913358great work anonencourage us more by telling us how you are personally fighting back against huge corporations
>>2913223>If the autogates or immigration check-in machines don't work after half a dozen tries by both you and the staff, they don't fucking workYou obviously didn't watch the webm because that's not what happened, kys faggot
>>2913359All YOU are doing is crymaxxing about an imaginary problem. Typical jestercel activity
>>2913361Speak English
>>2913359Everyone is. Except you. Because you are a submissive scared little shit.
>>2913361i have no idea what this even means>>2913372do tell us anon what you are personally doing to fight back against massive corporationsit's ok i'll wait until you've taken an uber to mcdonalds
>>2913376Have those megacorporations done what you imagined in your fearporn fantasy? Of course not. Any such attempt would immediately get shut down by lawsuits. It would only work if everyone was as perpetually scared and submissive as you.
>>2913222>>2913222>That's Asia in general. Nobody feels a need to carry a weapon in the street for self-defense. Police don't approach you ready to open firetrips of truthAfter years in East Asia I've noticed that in general police are far more chill than in the west, they are more mediators for disputes, because the laws are so tough and if you actually do something violent they will fuck you up in a moment.In the west we're massive pussies and let criminals get away with violent shit or theft all the time so crims realise they can terrorise normal citizensIn the west you could never leave a moto helmet on your bike, it would be stolen in 2 minutes and the cops would laugh you out of the station if you reported it. In Asia people leave half their possessions out the front of their home and no one touches shit, you can accidently leave your wallet or phone on a train seat and someone will ruin their trip trying to return it to you
>>2913386>in the westYou keep using this term when you mean "America" instead.
>>2909970if you have a twitter account then this thread is pointless
>>2913360Who gives a fuck about the webm? I'm talking about using these passport scanners IRL. If they work, fine, pass on thru. If they can't read your passport, you go to the counter. Period, end of discussion.
>>2913396Stop pretending that European cities are any better. Sure the criminals don't have guns, but street crime is epidemic in cities like Paris, and the police don't enforce jack shit.
>>2913431The police in European shitholes only exist to enforce laws against hate speech by Europeans and Europeans defending themselves. Africans and Asians can rape and steal and at worst be let out the next day
>>2913443In most major western european cities, they don't even bother arresting browns who are openly dealing and using drugs, even in the major tourist areas. I can't imagine how bad the crime gets in their suburban enclaves where they make up the majority of the population
>>2909970All this is to make sure you are not a criminal, and that you can be linked to any crimes you do in their country.
>>2913396I've had my bike stolen multiple times in Australia now, every time I return my bike gets stolen and cops won't do shit about itthere's zero consequences for stealing a bike in Australia so the filth of society gets their free pushie to sell on gumtreethis is a failure of process and procedures that was once a bastion of Anglo culture, why can I come from a country where people leave dozens of bikes on the street for days without trouble but me in my first week back in Australia it gets stolen while im literally in a fucking store for 3 minutes? Cops laughed at me for reporting it. In Asia it would be solved in a day with the bike back and some filthy crackhead in jail for a year. its so over for the western world, you have no idea, we've let the corrupt pieces of shit get into power and rape everybody without even a squeak about itAsia is the future, the west is done and you nigs won't work it out until it's too late, good luck with that
>>2913672>I've had my bike stolen multiple times in Australia nowstop leaving your bikes lying around then. duh>why can I come from a country where people leave dozens of bikes on the street for days without troublethere is no country in the world where that is possible. even in the netherlands, where there are literally millions of bikes, there is a massive amount of bike theft>In Asia it would be solved in a day with the bike back and some filthy crackhead in jail for a year."asia" is not just one place. and, are you saying there are filthy crackheads in asia? that wasn't a very good attempt at making it sound more civilised>Asia is the futureok ken-sama
>>2913673>there is no country in the world where that is possible.Japan
>>2913700Half the houses in Japan have a bike sitting out the front, in the street The other comment is straight up third world thinking,, all it comes down to is enforcement and not letting scum into your country like massive retardsAustralia is basically Africa at this point, go to Alice Springs and find out for yourself, zero fucking consequences and shops having to lock customers inside because the human animals run loose in the street. Go to Melbourne and "youths" are running wild with machetes, they have fucking machete amnesty bins where you can return your macheteThe country has lost the plot dealing with scum, just let citizens deal with it if the cops cant do their fucking job
>>2913700>Japanlol nope. if you leave a bike unlocked in japan there is a greater than 50% chance it will get nicked. a quick search shows 100,000 bikes are stolen in tokyo every yearapparently a lot of bikes are "borrowed" by drunk people who missed their train or something. but sorry, your weeb fantasies about japan being a crime free utopia aren't actually true
>unironically defending Asian authoritarianismThese same people will immediately do a 180 and lambast China's social credit system and surveillance state as Orwellian.Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
>>2913704>AfricaThose are noongas, not niggas
>>2909974You brainless spineless cucks mangina "govern me harder, daddy" cretin dipshit loser
>>2913705Thailand has lots of bikes in the provinces which have never felt a shackle. Big cities full of migrants are of course also devoid of trust, because a migrant unlike a villager is essentially anonymous and unaccountable to his neighbors; same in Japan as anywhere else.
>>2913592Go ahead, trust the locals, let your guard down. Next thing you'll be crying on reddit about having something stolen, like all the other clueless, sheltered cucks who have only ever known white privilege.
>>2913731Cry more incel as you demand the government save you from Le Evil Capitalism of private companies setting the price of goods and services
>>2913673Don't act like lowlifes stealing bikes is something part and parcel of normal life. Absolute criminal tyranny when people like yourself accept it.
>>2914213Acknowledging that something happens is not the same as accepting it. Fuck off back to /pol/ and stop resurrecting dead threads just to add your overblown nonsense.
>>2913431How would you know when you have never been to Europe?
>>2913704The machete bins were state gov embezzlement lol
