Dallas is one of the most soulless shithole places I've ever been. These days it's likely even worse.

>>2910934
Well I'm an IT /g/uy so I don't really care if I don't see "soulful" things everyday but something better than what the midwest offers would be ideal. Fast internet, decent comic cons, an airport to shoot around for a trip to Asia here and there for a month each, good food, and maybe a dating pool that isn't everyone who wonders why you're living there. Everyone here has gone full retard mode in politics since covid, and I just need out.

>These days it's likely even worse.
Anon my metro is like 250-275k people, as much as I like being able to shoot the shit with the local bartender. You get really burnt out seeing the same sorry faces at the bar every fucking week sticking to every fucking same song and dance. You can argue community is nice all you want but there is a limit at some point.

It's move out now or be forever stuck in a hell hole of underpaid work and keep the cycle of mundane going.

>>2910935
You sound like a terrible person. I wish you death.

Nobody help him at all!

>>2910933
You should look for another job. Anyone who has ever been to Texas in the past decade has moved out within two years from shitty labor laws and layoffs.

>>2910934
Having been to Dallas recently, I agree. Their light rail is a nigger dispersal service, nothing more. Even Houston felt more humanized, albeit uglier. There are strip clubs full of slender black whores in Dallas, FWIW. Cops always looking to bust them for getting too frisky. Impressive skyline, but you can tell everyone there aside from the aforementioned niggers is a wagecuck NPC who goes about their day like a goddam robot with as little human expression as possible.

>>2911006
I like my job, have insanely good security in my position, can work abroad if I want for a month or two without my boss caring, WFH after office setup happens. If something were to happen to my job, DFW is far better to find work in than a metro of 250k. Nothing else around for hours.

>>2911033
I used the lightrail a while back wasn't that bad, most I'd use it for is to/from the airport.
> wagecuck NPC who goes about their day like a goddam robot with as little human expression as possible.
Try living in a city where everyone knows everyone and the topics never change

>>2910935
Hey faggot, Texas bro here who lives in the DFW Metroplex. Maybe you should listen to the other people here telling you Dallas is a shithole because newsflash, it fucking is. The absolute scum of the earth have moved here en masse over the past decade and has somehow made this place even worse than it was prior to COVID.

Also if you're in tech, no one fucking lives in Dallas. All the tech faggots are north up in Frisco, McKinney, Plano area. North Texas is a dumpster fire and I for one can not wait to get out of here.

>>2910935
>underpaid work
You're in IT nigger, if they're paying you at all they're overpaying you

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>>2911035
Bring up a new topic then, be the change you want to see.

Best view of Dallas is leaving on the niggerbus

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>>2911120
>>2911250
Anon compared to where I live now, North Dakota, that's fine. We have nothing around for hours the next "big" city being MSP/Somali land. DFW is one of the few places we have direct flights to and I enjoy it. It's not a question of "uhh don't move" at this point lol.
>McKinney
Not bad decent apartments in/around 1000 for a 1br. Might give the area a look, not a fan of basicaly being 45 minutes from anywhere but if the quality of life is good might be worth the expense. My gym also being pretty far away is kinda a stinker but not bad by car.

>>2911121
>AI WILL REPLACE U NO MONEY
Anon many companies that went full AI/IT replacement got hacked or found out real quick AI is just spitting out a bunch of predefined configs that you still need to fine tune. Besides yet to see AI run cabling.


Not sure why you guys call dallas bad, i know downtown can get rough, but I don't plan to go to deep ellum for any reason. This is my one shot to move out of Fargo and boy I don't think you guys know how hard that can be. Simply having concerts that aren't boomer bands playing down at the Holiday inn or the pub because that's our "large venue" for shows is amazing. Everyone here shacked up at least once since HS so it's either date someone with a kid or fatty central. The amount of Somli's flooding in and staying in Moorehead is insane too. I'm glad you all must live in places like gated communities of LA where it's perfect 365 days of the year but don't try to sell DFW as shit when there are far, far worse places.

also
>inb4 why not just leave your job and move kek
You know how absolutely balls hard it is to get an apartment without verified income? Even if where I wanted to go was my "fuck it we ball" shit the places all want a near 100% mark up+cosigner if I dare not have a 3x income job. Pay it in full up front? pfft nope better have a job. So it's sketchy long term hotels or prefurnished "apartments" where convicts live.

I mean if a job is willing to pay you to move why not take it where it's no skin off your teeth or cash out of your pocket to do so? Must be nice living if you have people all over who would let you crash or randomly cosign for you in random city.

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>>2911262
>Fargo: 80% White
>Minneapolis: 60% White
>Dallas: 35% White
Yeah go ahead, enjoy life in such a low trust anti-social mutt city. It's definitely a big step up from the boring friendly White culture you enjoy in Fargo, where you walk into a random bar and some guy you barely know goes "Hi Jim! How was your week?" Horrible! Unbearable!

>>2911267
>80% white
Whoop dee fuckin doo. Doesn't matter because they aren't including migrants in the census data and it's skewed because the only state college worth a damn is located here. Not to mention every old fart who needs long term medical lives here. Trailer trash drunks and druggies that wander around because NDSU goes on rampages about NO MUH HEKKIN DRUG USERS NEED TO BE FREE! OR ALL MIGRANTS WELCOME is shit. It's only amplified due to the small size here, go to walmart or something on the 1st or 15th of the month. It will me darker than midnight in those areas.

McKinney actually seems worth checking out alternative to where I originally was looking at.


>g friendly White culture you enjoy in Fargo, where you walk into a random bar and some guy you barely know goes
Why yes the stereotype from Andy Smith Show is what I think it's like! How did you know! far from it.
>"Hi Jim! How was your week?"
lol no, it's like "hey did you see late night with Jimmey Kimmel? LOL I laughed so fucking hard man hahah!" or "Hey wanna go watch marvel slop at the theater after work? I heard superwoman is POWERFUL girl boss this time."

It's more like "oh dang here comes Earl... Hey earl you know you're banned" followed by a 5-10 min of back and forth so earl can get 1 drink so he doesn't start tweaking out and leaves nicely. Cops are more like hall monitors because "Ted was a good guy in school... sure he tried to grab your wallet but come on man, it's TED!" Then the bars shut down for college kids who mind you, got credit cards banned from many of the bars downtown due to charge back scams, so everything is cash only minus like 2-3 places downtown that really only house old people. All this mind you with DFW prices on food because EVERYONE knows the oil workers make bank. Then walking home is "hey man you got change for da bus brudda?" with some guy talking to himself about fucking you up. You know nothing but numbers on a screen

Oh also, it's possible to snow starting next week as the temps are to get below freezing which turns this place into a frozen hell for 4-7 months depending, Yeah man, it's reeeeaaaaally fun with the #1 thing to do is sit inside and stare. So many drug addicts form because people go into oil and can't handle the short days with frozen everything.

>snow can be fun
Most people don't know this but the snow quickly becomes ice meaning you have snow with layers of ice on top, which gets snowed on and increases the ice. So you can't even really play in it or anything unless it's very fresh.

also final (You)
>Minneapolis: 60% White
Lol no, and I would take a mix of browns and asians who aren't suicidal levels of empathy to every cucked viewpoint possible so they can feel good. Nothing is worse than that, at least you know nogs and trash will remain in the shittier parts of towns.

>>2911262
I'd rather be back in the oilfield in Nodak than in this ratrace shithole that is DFW. Lot of complaints about Somalis, but man the fucking jeets here are just as bad if not worse. It's a god damn plague

>>2910933
Hows Denton, Rockland, or Granbury? If i had to stay in the triangle i've always considered those areas in particular. Not cookie cutter but not that out in the sticks anymore.

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>>2911279
Looks fine to me, again I am going to be largely WFH after the initial setup on site and really only in the area for compliance reasons.

Think I am going to compare addison and McKinney when I go down.
Pros I see about McKinney
-bit more rural from things
-newer developments
-looks like higher class of living
cons
-far out so if I ever wanna uber downtown for a show it's going to be pricy
-more expensive than Addison

Again one of the main reasons I want to keep this job, and basically have decided on it is that my boss is 100% okay with me flying to Japan for 1-2 months or somewhere and he doesn't blink an eye. I'm glad you all live in some magical world where Fargo is the most based place but it's not, it's certainly got it's benefits(going to miss 2br places for 680/mo), but like everyone else it's near impossible to get out of. It's annoying when coworkers show up drunk and "that's just a monday LOL am I right?" so you can't do shit until wednesday because tuesday they are hung over and wednesday they are finally sober. It's annoying when cops and people STILL 10 years later hold the highschool drama shit in day to day life, and talking like petty shit too.

>muh jeets
You people realize we have a big MS campus here right? they flood through every time Fargo thaws out.

>>2911280
I looked there but the amount of college BS around there is something I don't wanna have to deal with. People who like college towns must have something wrong with their brains.

>>2911281
>I looked there but the amount of college BS around there is something I don't wanna have to deal with. People who like college towns must have something wrong with their brains.
Denton County is still red; I'm young enough to go to college age stuff despite not going to UNT, college girls are a guilty pleasure since theyre progressive as fuck. It's also still commuter distance from Dallas and Fort Worth. Alternatively Weatherford or Wise sound good if i work on the Fort Worth side, even Arlington is commuter distance from the latter.

>>2911283
I mean I'm no boomer but college girls just annoy the shit out of you when you've basically lived in a college town your entire life lmao. You do you if that's the cup of tea you like, I'm so over the petty bullshit and /need to agree with random thing/ for a fuck buddy.

McKinney is kinda growing on me the more I look at it, bit more of a commute. Probably going to need a car for either place I choose anyways. At least the car market looks leagues better than Fargo.

>>2911284
Theres alot more Mexicans and SEAsiansthan jeets, it's a testament to this state's culture that it hasn't gone blue like cali, although in my opinion, Texas is becoming similar to cali in everything but social politics.

>>2911286
That's great anon but I am renting, not buying the farm to live my next 50 years on. If it's shit I will find a new job and move but the fact a few indians live in texas isn't going to drag me down when the overall net positives in job growth and things to do + people to meet is a night and day difference.
>muh jeets muh blacks
Okay cool I won't be going to Golden Corral on the 1st and 15th or hanging out at Kebab shwarma place. Nor will I be thinking the "bar outting" is going to BWW or Chili's. DFW has an insane metro population I am sure it's easy to avoid them unless they literally live rent free in your head. Maybe I'll just shop at whole foods or something, we don't even have one here lmao.

Fargo has dogshit all to do so they are impossible to avoid as they just wander in, sit down and expect to be treated like you grew up with them. So weird looking a this board, it's like "fly to SEA shit hole for browns and shit WOW AMAZING" but "visiting and moving to improve your life? uhhh what why lol! JEETS BLACKS EXIST LMAO"

Do tell anon, where are your acceptable living places?

>>2911281
Word of warning when it comes to Collin County, this is where you see the biggest influx of Indians if it's a concern. Right now they're mostly relegated to Frisco, Plano, and Prosper area but their is fast growing population in McKinney. I've got some family that live there and their neighborhood has quickly become majority Indian.

Also the amount of construction currently going on in Collin County will make any travel into DFW proper an absolute headache. I would do some research into the current construction projects and planned projects they have right now. North part of the Metroplex has become an absolute nightmare to traverse.

I know it would be a longer commute into DFW, but if I had any kind of desire to move anywhere else around here, I'd look northeast. Greenville area, possibly Sulphur Springs. It's rural for sure but you're still close enough to the city. Housing will be cheaper as well.

Denton County is a no go. Crowded as shit and home prices have gone absolutely insane for what you're paying for. Or if you're willing, out near Decatur or even going north into Gainesville isn't too terrible yet. Really is going to just come down to what you're willing to do for travel times in and out of DFW.

If you've got your mind made up about North Texas do thorough research because shit is blowing up here fast. Noeth Dallas Tollway corridor going north in particular.

>>2911289
No im not trying to discourage you, if anything im pushing back against rhetoric that Texas is conquered by indians, for crying out loud cali and british columbia are far worse in that regard.

>>2911290
I'm looking mostly in Addison right now but McKinney is my second choice.
>Greenville area, possibly Sulphur Springs
Yeah where are the apartment complexes worth a damn that you are looking at? Renting folks, not buying a house until I know I like it and got a feel for the area.

Probably just going to check out Addison, with a fallback to McKinney. Not going to stay in Irving

>>2911292
Irving is a shithole so you're fine on that front. Addison area is fine for the most part. Used to work in that area. Lots of East Asians but they stick to themselves. This was nearly 10 years ago though so I don't know the demographics of that area now. I'm sure it's seen a big change just like everything else here. Little Elm is another area that aint bad. It's growing but there's plenty of shit to do around there. Only issue with Little Elm is going to be traffic going south. I honestly think McKinney would be your most solid choice between your two choices.

>>2911120
Irving actually, biggest shit hole of all. Having lived there, I showed a street view of Pune and it looked like a 1:1 replica to my partner. H1B's get dumped there, laid off, and have a 20 minute shot back to the airport to go back to India.

>>2911390
>, I showed a street view of Pune and it looked like a 1:1 replica to my partner.


Even the homos are complaining about jeets it must be bleak

>>2911270
Jesus, if you're so bothered by all that drunken normie tier crap in Fartgo, you're not gonna fit in socially in Texas either. It's okay, be another invisible white suburbanite who works from home, stays inside all the time and only leaves the house driving on errands, never making eye contact with or acknowledging anybody.

>>2911390
>irving looks just like india KEK
Oh come on Irving is bad but it doesn't look close to India. Irving is just boring as shit for anyone trying to rent.

>>2911552
Gotta love how /trv/ somehow knows peoples entire life story based off a few posts. TX has some issues with alcoholics but at least you're not having months of below freezing temps where the only thing to do is be inside and drink. You don't even have to be from fargo to know it's a frozen hellscape half the year and that will get on peoples nerves.

I really wonder sometimes where this board actually has gone in terms of the USA because most the opinions are basically "yeah saw a meme on pol and look at this graph".

/trv/ just has to be full on contrarians or gatekeeping if I am actually seeing people defend Fargo. As a resident sure it's nice to have a small town homey feel, but that doesn't always apply especially when you have a drug epidemic and foreigners getting plopped down.
>>2911267
>80% white
Okay now remember ~40% of that white group is +45 years old, and ~25% of that is college age and below, leaving you with 15% of people being in the fun social range. Even smaller amount actually remain single much after 25 since "everyone knows everyone hehe" people shack up super quick and remain homebodies. Pickens get slim for a single guy real quick. Factor this in with Fargo being among one of, if not THE, drunkest cities in the USA and the fun really goes down the shitter
Fargo is good for a cheap life, if you digital nomad the rent can be stupid cheap in apartments talking 525/mo and under depending on your standards. If you lose your job that pays well GG you're stuck working for the government or healthcare, especially in IT. Enjoy being paid 35-45k/yr living just well enough to not be poor but not rich enough to really move out ever unless you dedicate to being a hermit.

DFW, it's been about a year since I was there last, but is head and shoulders above Fargo in opportunities, career advancement, and just things to do that aren't the same 4-5 things a year that are the exact same. The fact trv seems to think it's a backwards hell hole is something I'd expect off reddit because muh republicans or something equally retarded. Unless you're somehow balding before 30 or a manlet I always had a good time experiencing some time out with the locals.

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>>2911622
Just say you'd rather be around a bunch of mystery meat California refugees because you think you have better chances getting a hispanic gf. Perhaps true. DFW isn't backwards, you've got it all wrong; it's the dystopian 2050 era future of this mutt economic zone known as the USA. A giant racial melting pot full of rootless newcomers, where nobody knows or cares about anyone around them, sprawling across dozens and dozens of miles of ruined ugly scrublands. A wholesale genocide of trees in the name of progress. Public transport that successful people pay bucoo taxes to fund, but studiously avoid using. Rapacious development, sizzling heat, jackbooted police, cameras everywhere, endless business opportunities...which includes dating, it's all transactional. Picrel is what the majority of the metro area looks like outside of the wealthy neighborhoods.

>>2911878
>Picrel is what the majority of the metro area looks like outside of the wealthy neighborhoods.
So it literally looks like fargo... okay

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Also, because I know you're going to post that one bullshot of downtown that everyone does this is the other 95% of Fargo.

Here's the mall where people go to just walk back and forth for hours and where "things" often happen for the sub <50 year olds or not the games at the NDSU convention center. That's main area that got "built up in recent years as downtown became an utter shithole of boomers who all died or moved on during covid causing the entire "downtown" section to go on full life support to not collapse. Seriously, business rent was cheaper than actual housing downtown some as low as 600/mo just to bring back some businesses. This is the GOOD side of the highway, you don't want the crackdens of westgate at the cashwise.

>inb4 bonanza town and state fair area
Yeah sure do love those few weeks anything goes on and it's the exact same things each year. This place is great if you're doing CDL or oil 6mo on/6mo travel but that life isn't for me.

>>2911894
I hate the parts of America where it's all wide and flat and paved like that. It just feels like irl backrooms and I get worried I will get trapped there.

>>2911893
>>2911894
Man i dislike that feel. It's the opposite extreme of european housing with roads that fit 1 car.
It reminds me of that time being in an area where the only business within an hour of driving is a fucking mcdonalds.
>>2911274
Oh well that explains a bit.
Unironically you could lower drug use by making university free for all. Push people to art studies. Maybe a ton of winter movies /blockbusters would start releasing.

>>2911962
>Unironically you could lower drug use by making university free for all. Push people to art studies. Maybe a ton of winter movies /blockbusters would start releasing.
So is that why it works in Finland? Oh wait it doesn't. I hope this is just shit bait

US basically gives free university, most all states give nearly free if not free 2 year degrees. If you keep a GPA above 3.5 the amount of gibs you get is insane, I remember my classes would be like <80-100 bucks for 4 credit hour courses if I did the available scholarships for a +3.5 GPA. For trade jobs tons of companies will just pay it back if you aren't a doofus.

Drug users happen to the rich people and well off who just can't handle 6 months of winter hell and need an escape. Same shit happens in Sweden, Norway, and Finland, Alaska, Russia, and Canada. Some people can't just deal with cabin fever. The worst drug users in places are the ones who had a decent life and are now so far in the hole they don't want to look in the mirror without some high going on. Colleges just flood the city council and vote to just give addicts narcan and drugs vs. locking them up and forcing them into being sober.

>>2911921
Get a car incel

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>>2911962
>Unironically you could lower drug use by making university free for all.
What would that fix in North Dakota of all places? The state doesn't even rank 1 million people. It's 80% farm land, 10% oil, 8% missile silos and bases, 2% anything that represents a city. I'm sure you need a 4 year college degree to drive a tractor. If anything one of the leading causes of the state constantly failing to build up, is that the university is cheap for in state citizens and has serious brain drain to other places.

I'm like genuinely curious if people even know where North Dakota is or what Fargo even looks like outside the TV show that pops up.

>>2911962
>>2911971
Whenever I think of North Dakota I always think of this Family Guy scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_nphDDU76o

>>2911878
NotJustBikes please go back to /rFuckcars

>>2911963
>US basically gives free university,
>most are rich.
I just meant that it would help. Not solve it. I guess I can't think much without hard stats but I assume that most of them unironically disdain the arts. Atleast in terms of participating. That was what I am alluding to.

I get that you can not change a culture with just a few things at a time. You can still shape things. Banning social media would make this guy less >>2911963 angry. You do have a point about the brain drain.
I do not know what college costs in Nd or minnesota or whatever. I doubt the people that stay, are much enthusiased about going to college for art and entertainment reasons. They probably see it as a waste of time and 10 grand.
About the brain drain. Im sure if you ask people who would like to move back, would make a full list of reasons of things working against that. I don't think making college more expensive would be a good thing. Even if they never come back. They still pay more federal taxes than they would have. Which gets back to the farmers and so on.
The records of moving out are surely not that hard to get. Commissioning a uni shouldn't be that hard if they want an actual profit/loss count

You op1 do have a point about colleges working for greater access to narcan. You would need more mental hospitals. The US apparently already has a ton of prisons. Convert half of them to mental wards. Im sure many prisoners need to be in mental institutions anyways

It is a high cost for minimal change. I still think it would be nice.

>>2912097
And everyone clapped because anon fixed america! OP can now wait 10 years for your solution to maybe make it to a vote.

Look at this europoor trying to think every place can be fixed by some liberal hell college. Blue collar jobs pay some of the best in the USA right now. College has nothing to do why Fargo has become shit, it's due to it being a complete frozen hell hole for 6 months out of the year, we are talking -40c where you just stop working and sit inside until shit passes. There are like 0 trees in North Dakota as it's been plains for 1000's of years meaning it's just cold and windy where wind chills can be -80F.

For fun looked it up
>The average annual sticker price for an in-state undergraduate student at North Dakota State University is approximately $19,500 to $21,000 for tuition, fees, housing, and meals
NDSU is stupidly cheap, and with the ability to make your student loan payments capped at like 10-15% your income you have no "muh hekkin school should be free!". That's way cheaper than the taxes anyone would pay over a lifetime.

>>2912105
You aren't clammering to make middle schools and high schools cost $20000. Might as well make the roads private to the farmers too.

Doesn't matter what I write. You just want to be angry and smug.

If north dakota is really so bad. You can move everyone out of the state. My comment isn't even about nd. It's about the country. This thread is about texas. Theres no 6 month winter for a thousand miles nearby.

My posts are about reducing misery in the culture. Your insistence on hyper individualism and fuck you I got mine is unironically part of the problem.
No I Havent put much effort into the comments. This thread is going to be deleted in 24 hours.

You haven't offered ways to reduce that. Just miserable cynicism. Which i do understand but brings nothing to this thread. Infact it's my very point. Who the hell is going to want to entertain others or even be entertained by others if they view it as costing 20 grand.

Yet seems like a bunch of commenters on this website still do. A person who has been here has probably spent 10,000 hours here. Het i bet they don't view it as ...$10 an hour, so $100000 lost. Or 400k if you make $40.

No I am not going to put in effort here. It's a waste of time. So are your comments. It just makes life worse for everyone involved.

>>2912109
>Who the hell is going to want to entertain others or even be entertained by others if they view it as costing 20 grand.
Who says college is for everyone? Some people just want to be oil workers, farmers, or truckers(which a lot of ND is). You don't need college for that.

>>2912113
College should be for 10% of the population at most

>>2910934
Dallas sucks but it still mogs almost every true midwest city and it's not even close lol. I spent time in Nebraska and was astounded how terrible everything was

>>2910933
I grew up in Dallas
If you're a white npc dude or that's your vibe go to uptown. Cruise the katy trail and hit on white npc chicks. Whiterock lake is also pretty great for walking/running lots of young people.There's a nice dog park.

If you're looking for a good somewhat decent suburb try richardson or plano. If you're working on the other side of town then it's more mixed and barren of all soul except empty suburbs filled with indians. Some of the southside has become pretty gentrified lately and some cool spots.

Don't go to deep ellum it's a fucking ghost town and you'll get hit by strays when 2 fellows start arguing about shoes.

lower greenville is pretty nice with a few venues but the parking sucks.

The trains are a wash don't even bother if you don't want to get harassed and stabbed by a random crackhead because you decided to ride it after 6pm.

Overall Dallas kinda sucks balls compared to Austin in every single metric but it's not terrible. You can find meetup groups for almost every hobby. There's plenty of young people but they're going to be a different demographics socially and culturally than the big coastal cities or even Austin/Denver. Not bad not great goodluck man

>>2910933
How did the Dallas TV series and Walker, Texas Rangers portray dfw accurately?