>>2911932
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Can anyone recommend a good Tiananmen Square 天安門一九八九年 massacre tour?

Okay, so the reason I made this thread’s edition for a Chinese indie band (Hiperson is from Chengdu) is because I am once again asking what the current music scene is like in China.

Are some cities better for certain genres/scenes than others?

I’m talking punk, metal, emo, indie, prog rock, hardcore, etc.

>>2911935
Oh, and I forgot goth. Definitely want to know the best city for Chinese Goth girls.

>>2911935
yeah but i wouldn't listen to anyones opinion unless they are actually in the city they are talking about. these generals are attended by internet info repeaters, not experience sharers.
this isn't the place you'll find such info.
i'd get rednote/小红书 and search for keywords and cities and ask in a comment on things you find. or ask there what chinese sites/social media profile to look at.
at best here you will get obvious statement like the big cities have scenes and the cities with lots of students have scenes: chengdu, beijing, shanghai, wuhan etc. you need to get actual chinese to point you in the way.

>>2911932
I'm South Asian and I found China to be incredibly unwelcoming. I studied there for about 6 years. As a student I had no right to work in the country, so I was quite poor. There is almost no path it permanent residence or citizenship for nonChinese too.
Yes most Chinese think I am African or Italian. Once I tell them through a translator I am from India their demeanor towards me almost always changes. I've tried getting just regular massages, and they will always tell me they are full and have no time. How is that even possible?
The only friends I made in Chinese were other Indians or the occasional white dude.
Every time I would approach someone in a night club they would always just tell me they were busy, even if I wanted to just talk. Very unwelcoming and unfriendly. I'm thinking anyone who says something positive about China is a bot or Chinese themselves.

>>2912030
Sorry jeetbro they just dont like your kind. If you're white or other NE Asian they are welcoming.

>>2912030
You are not south asian you are a filthy indian, literally every culture in the world HATES you. Even the most liberal libtards in canadian subreddits are actively racist towards jeets.

>>2911961
Yep. One additional note is that scene music tend to operate in circles. Once you know one, and have their info you can use this to see similar bands or you can try and identify popular venues that music is played. Livehouse are pretty popular so there definitely a market for it. Schoolpub in beijing is one such place with pretty good live rock music. It will never be super popular though because its a bitch to make a good sounding song with lyrics in chinese due to the tonal system.

>>2912080
Hes a white incel loser from pol tryingto spread misery thats how they breed. He doesn't even have a passport

>>2912455
Is this the new "he's paki" cope? Lmao everyone hates jeets. From the extreme far right, middle, and extreme far left.

>>2912494
Who would pretend to be Indian and whine?

I want to do an epic motorcycle trip across Xinjiang. How much of a pain in the ass would the Chinese police be? Assume that my license and vehicle paperwork are all legal.

>>2911933
I keep skipping to get to the song part and it's just her ranting over an acoustic guitar the whole time.
Here's some real China music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9x32PEhTBU

>>2912540
You could do it safer elsewhere

>>2912586
What do you mean safer?

>>2912586
What do you mean elsewhere?

>>2912586
What do you mean could?

>>2912586
What do you mean it?

>>2912586
What do you mean do?

how difficult is it to get tickets for the Forbidden City and Tiananmen Square on a Saturday / Sunday in late October?
some people have reported that the foreign ticket office even didn't have any and online were sold minutes after the 7 day window opened
those were mostly during summer and not late October (aka shoulder season)
the alternative is to spend more on a tour

>>2912670
What in the flying fuck is shoulder season?

>>2912671
>What in the flying fuck is shoulder season?
the time between peak season and low season
for tourist numbers

for Beijing
national holidays and July/August would be peak / high season
December to February has the least tourists, so low season
in between is shoulder season

The CCP will send you a couple of freebies to lovebomb you and then get mad that you dont know 2000 years of cultural traditions around dating in china after only being there three days. After you settle in you will run into consistently the same usual behavior of women who only act interested initially and then when you pursue them further they will act like cold hearted bitches and be rude or just casually waste your time forever with lies and string you along

>>2912744
That's modern women everywhere IME. Especially the pretty ones. Once they discover you're just a world wanderer, the jig is up. That's why you have to hurry up, overwhelm her attention and get the puss like you have a dozen other girls waiting. Chatting for days on end betrays your lack of options.

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>>2912750
Stop inferring. Stop looking for patterns. Stop trying to "solve" people

>>2912750
Im working here thats what I mean. I have a set work schedule and as soon as I am free and try to make something happen girls stop sounding interested and go silent. Attention seeking behavior is terribly high. "You must talk to so many women" is true because they aren't serious themselves

>>2912678
What a retarded made up phrase.

>>2912918
Not my first time hearing it but yeah I agree.

>>2912678
In normal White people English, the part between low and high is called middle. We don't need to reference body parts to remind us where middle is, fucking retard.

>>2912918
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>>2912930
are you sure you're on the right board?
for /trv/ this is an awfully stupid take to admit to

>en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shoulder_season
>collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/shoulder-season

>>2912933
>are you sure you're on the right board?
Actually no, now that you mention it I must have accidentally ended up on Reddit. My bad.

Ive heard Xiamen will be pretty dead for national day holiday?

>>2912455
>White
>From the brownist board on 4kek
Kekaroo! You'd only fool dumb foids

>>2911934
Shit’s getting boring, but you could try ask the locals and set what they’re thinking

>>2912030
Was rooting for you till I know you’re Indian. Sorry bro, Chinese don’t like pajeets

>>2912753
That's the whole point of meeting people while traveling, to understand humanity better by deducing how environment and culture shapes the behavior of many different types of people. Every time I go out in public I am observing people - and their reactions to being observed. Don't like it? Tough shit.
>>2912853
How is your Chinese language skill?

>>2913011
Its a limit for me. I can know what people are talking about if they talk slowly and aren't garbling in a southern accent but when I try to speak I always fuck up the tones if I try to speak a sentence

>>2913011
No one likes it when people react. Action > reaction

>>2913056
No one asked

Got invited to go to HK tomorrow for the fireworks display. Should be fun

>>2913007
>but you could try ask the locals and set what they’re thinking
I actually did ask locals about that
well mostly Chinese students that I befriended in my University
maybe about half knew about it and generally had quite a nuanced option about the CCP, but overall positive (mostly something along "yeah bad things happened but the good outweigh them")
the other half was clueless and had no interest in politics whatsoever

>>2913146
People generally have trust and faith in the government because ccp official have to cut their teeth at the local level solving people's problems

>>2913057
that;s the point

Chengdu is kind of mid, not worth staying in for too long honestly. The viral spa thing was good though actually.
Chongqing was pretty neato, but you only need 3 nights really at most. The long underground hotpot was worth it, tasted great. Xiaholi is super great too imo, nice cozy area not too busy. I do wish for one of the days I went out on a day trip.

Overall you really just need AMAP for maps, WeChat if you wanna converse with your hotel/other people in China and of course AliPay (that has a bunch of miniapps on it like Didi). Everything else is optional.

>>2913157
>Chengdu is kind of mid
true for Chengdu itself (other than seeing Pandas)
but lots of cool day trips you can do from there
>leshan
>dujiangyan
>mount qingcheng (front and back side)
>emei shan
>huanglongxi ancient town
and a bunch more

generally the region is probably one of the most interesting ones in China
and completely justified to be included in many trips

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>>2913161
Chengdu seems better to live in than to visit

>>2913163
>Chengdu seems better to live in than to visit
true
but that's nothing disqualifying Chengdu, still worth it to visit
even for first time visitors
you're central in Sichuan and there's a lot of interesting, very uniquely chinese stuff around

also there's a direct flight TFU <-> FRA
as I live within reasonable distance to Frankfurt, that saves a lot of travel time when doing split flights

>>2913157
I spent a week in Chongqing and it wasn't enough. If you're only walking around and eating hot pot, you're missing out on the best parts. The city is surrounded by nature and history.

>>2913161
Yeah a day trip or two from there would have been better.
>>2913165
Fair enough anon. still I did quite like the city though anyway. I did more of course than stated, I enjoy photography so I had a great time there

Off to HK to bust a load and see fireworks

As an American I am not usually proud of my country but god damn shake shack mogs

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>>2913312
In Tokyo yes
In Istanbul not so much

>>2913165
Hope you did a day trip to Dazu rock carvings otherwise I’d have gone to zhangjiajie

>>2913331
I would call in a tomahawk but those are on back order. As usual the Turks just try and steal like they charge tourists 70usd for a ten minute shuffle

>>2913312
China has the best fried chicken too. How does it feel to be beaten in your own game?

Am about to be on a standing train to xiamen for three hours. I shouldn't have waited to buy tickets.
>>2913661
Ive heard its quite good but havent had a chance to try

I’m doing HK, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Zhuhai, HK in the first half of December for the Zhuhai airshow. This is my first China trip, is there anything on my trip that I should definitely see?

>>2913808
How long is your trip?

>>2913809
14 nights
HK-4
Shenzhen-3
Guangzhou-3
Zhuhai-3
HK-1

>>2913811
Some days outside of those cities would be highly recommended since they're basically all the same thing. Visiting China without seeing some mountains and nature is missing out on the best thing the country offers. Plus Shenzhen has nothing.

>>2912030
No one likes jeets, the Chinese aren't special in this

>>2913843
if you have iphone it's really easy. if you have android you will run into many difficulties. it's easy to use for foreigners. most things you can do without a phone number and if you have a phone number you can do pretty much everything

>>2913846
Androids very nice for the inscreen translation but yeah there will be some difficulties unless you have chinese phone number, verified accounts, and a mainland bank

I'm visiting HK for a week in early November. It's my second trip with the first being in 2018; I understand that it's changed since then and is losing its identity. I'm particularly interested in avoiding tourist trap areas and taking the train to a random stop north and wandering around, as well as visiting New Territories and Macau. Is Central or thereabouts still the best place to stay?

I'm also a /p/ fag and like vintage lenses and would like to visit camera stores to see if I can find anything interesting of that nature, especially Chinese made lenses.

>>2913856
Hk is a good place to buy camera lenses because the mainland is restrictive and taxed heavily but I doubt you'll find any good deals. I was able to pick up a olymphus 2 with I think an okay lens (looks like some smudging, wont know until I developed film) for less than $200 usd.

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my advice for QR codes is that you should always use alipay/wechat to scan them. Your phone camera QR code just won't work. If you're eating at a restaurant and there is a QR code, use the alipay app and scan it with that.

As soon as I leave town literally every hoe I have fucked and all my dude friends want to hang out
>>2913896
Always use alipay due to the good built in translation function. Wechats translation is weak and annoying

>>2913938
Common occurrence, women egressing from the woodwork simultaneously. I attribute it to there predilections towards other men spanning similar durations. Not to mention the possibility of their menstrual (ovulation) cycles aligning.

Women are horny, and they will proposition your physical espousal if other men are unresponsive

What’s Yanji like?

Are Korean Chinese people friendly?

>>2914354
Also curious if I get around there by just speaking Korean.

>>2913811
14 days wasted on the most soulless cities in China. Try to cut some of it down and at least check out Guilin nearby.

I was prepared for people spitting in public but not for the fucking farts. Never in my life have I heard that many people ripping audible farts, and it didn't even seem to bother the people around them. Some even walked right behind the farters and continued tanking the farts like it's the most natural thing in the world.

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>>2914355
I have a bad impression of them because the ones in korea tend to act like niggers and do scams. When I saw the travel vlogs from there from it looked really fake, like all the korean restaurants were han larpers that dont really speak korean. even though there's a minority of them who claim they "speak" korean at home, they are a very small minority and most of them are shitty at the language

>>2914369
My visa’s good for 10 years, I have time brother

How hard is it to find places without a gorillion people in it in China? I’m looking to go next year but don’t want to be stuck around tons of people all the time. I figure any major tourist attraction is probably pretty crowded, but what about more out of the way places like Guizhou or Ningxia? Or going in the off season? Just want to be able to have some time to relax

>>2914609
you have to know when the offseason is. guizhou in the summer gets swamped but if you go in the winter no one is there

On god, guanyu, and xiji; fujian food is the best in china

Are Chinese Visas like American ones? Afaik the chinese visa only allows for a single visit and you must do the entire process again if you want to enter in the future. At least American visas give you 10 years of validity. I come from a country that needs a Chinese visa.

>>2914659
>Afaik the chinese visa only allows for a single visit and you must do the entire process again if you want to enter in the future.
Why not just Google it yourself? China has many different visas. The ones I have for tourism are multi entry and multi year.

>>2914659
my chinese visa as an american is 10 years multi entry 90 days each. costs like $140. i heard they only give out the 10 year at certain embassies though

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Miss that Chongqing hotpot bros, got that half and half with the hot spot on one side and the refreshing tasting tomato on the other when it got too hot for me.
Will be a contrast to visit north east China at the end of the year, going up to Beijing and Harbin.

>>2914689
I will visit Harbin and probably Shenyang (I have heard its crazy there a bit) for Christmas vacation since my work here gives me two weeks Christmas vacation since we have so many foreign workers.

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>>2914690
Same time as me anon. I'll be stopping off for a day in Shenyang as well, just thought I may as well visit somewhere else that is different from the usual

>>2914697
Though I need to plan my trip out. I have it December 21st until January 4th or something. Im not sure sculptures will be finished at that time..

I might have to leave china just so I can buy allergy pills because why the fuck are pills so expensive in china?

>>2914379
part and parcel of experiencing other cultures

>>2911935
Chengdu is known for folk rock.

>>2911935
For eg Zhao Lei has a very famous song called "Chengdu" and it references a place called Little Bar in the city. Its a city known for being a little artsy and for music.

What made you want to visit China?
Before going, what was on your mind?
Was it worth it?
Was there another place you visited that you preferred over China?

From the view videos I've watched of china, it seems to be either a dense modern concrete jungle, or a sketchy ass third world concrete mess. Am I correct? And why do they use so much concrete everywhere? I didn't see many wooden buildings or nature.

>>2915859
I went because it's low risk, high upside. The cost of living is so cheap even if I didn't like it it would be a good place to chill. And mandarin has the most native speakers in the world so learning it is useful no matter where I go

It was worth it

I preferred India, Japan, and Korea more than China. But China is solid. It's never a waste of time to go there because of the low cost of living and the utility of the language.

>>2916044
Wood is rare in developed East Asian countries outside of temples because it rots in the high humidity. Plus China gets earthquakes in some areas, and wood structures collapse easily. Areas with neither of those problems are the desert regions, and deserts aren’t known for wood structures. Go to any city on earth outside of old European downtown cores and it’s all concrete. Even in those cute traditional little European cities, the moment you get outside of the touristy city center, it’s all concrete blocks. Whether you’re in France, Poland, Italy, or Switzerland.

>>2916126
I guess that makes sense, but I feel like there's a serious lack of greenery and nature at least from what I'm use to. A lot of cities are just drab grey

Man the portion sizes here are huge and everything is so oily
I can see why so many chicks just seem to get FAT

>>2916143
yes, its a wonder how they eat low quality meat (eg. those chinese sausages) and mystery chemical beverages yet still appear so healthy and fertile

>>2916134
There is plenty of quality nature in China, it's a huge country, BUT within major cities they do a terrible job of integrating it even via bare minimum nice parks like American cities do. Only exception I've seen personally is Qingdao.

>>2916143
The amount of oil in chinese food is abhorent. I really prefer Fujian food because rarely is anything soaking in a pool of oil.

The longer I spend in Shanghai the lower my opinion on China falls
Hangzhou was pretty nice (near the lakes), air was okay, nature was gorgeous

Shanghai just seems like just an endless roll of malls with identical shops and overpriced food. Of the one I walked into most seem to barely get any foot-traffic despite there being like 8+floors of shops in each of these..

Am I missing something about Shanghai?

I want to stay 8-9 days at a winter onsen/spa I have christmas breaking coming up and would like to stay at a nice onsen town / place with nature hiking and viewing local stuff whilst majority of the time being at the onesn

>>2917037
I guess I'm asking for places or regions to visit that fit this MO in China

>>2917007
It's more a place to live than a place to visit. In either case the only worthwhile part is the French Concession.

>>2917007
I've been in China four times, each time for around three weeks and never stepped into Shanghai. There is absolutely nothing about that city that makes me want to visit. A random town in Sichuan holds more appeal to me.

Is 13 days too little or too much for Hong Kong + Guangzhou? I don't plan to venture too far from the city center of either.

>>2917521
Way too much. You can do both in 4-5 days. If you have friends you can do a max of 5 days in HK if you do all the nature, beach day etc. Guangzhou is a 2-3 day max on weekend

Its so beautiful when people conduct themselves in a stoic defiant manner. They don't glance around at their surroundings lacking confidence, lacking a task to do, or having shame/guilt for what they are doing. They embody a respectful honor that can make you feel invisible in a profound way. I love that

>>2917727
>You can do both in 4-5 days

Poverty mindset

>>2917942
>They don't glance around at their surroundings lacking confidence, lacking a task to do, or having shame/guilt for what they are doing.
You mean they're too stupid to have curiosities about their surroundings or want to take in the environment and have to stare blankly ahead like dumb cattle?