>>2912374
It's expensive and hard to get in.
But Bali and Chiang Mai is right next to it so that's a plus I guess.

pro:
>wages are good
>weather is usually quite nice
>national parks and wildlife are excellent
cons:
>no culture, feels very shallow culturally, if you're from europe you will struggle with this once the initial charm wears off, it will drive you mad eventually, it's like living in McCorporate America Goyslop Land but somehow with even less culture than that
>aussies are very superficial people
>australian cities suck compared to europe. they have relatively small centres made up of boring modern office blocks and outside that it's all just endless copy/paste suburbia. don't believe anyone who tells you melbourne or sydney compare to london/paris/berlin/nyc, they aren't even in the same ballpark. sydney is pretty though and you can surf there so they have that going for them
>major crackhead problem in most urban areas
>supermarket food is poorer quality than europe and they only have 2 supermarkets so the variety is also poor and they're expensive as fuck
>aussies make a lot of noise in the cinema
this one could be a pro or a con depending on where you're from
>aussies are very racist

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>>2912374
Never been, but I'd guess that it's expensive for what it offers, and traveling beyond SE Asia is a pain in the ass for aussies and kiwis

>>2912374
How are yanks perceived? Looking to escape the US for a while. White and gay if it matters

>>2912479
Men, usually fine with Yanks
Women, mixed bag most only know trump

>>2912438
I never took the culture argument seriously, but every single Aussie I met complained about that, how its a boring desert with 0 architecture or history

>>2912497
It's the same in New Zealand; because both are relatively young countries, there's little history. In my experience both have severe tall poppy syndrome where you get harassed if you're different than the crowd and there is a small-town mindset throughout most of the nation where maintaining the status quo is the average person's main focus.

>>2912482
Zoomettes are dtf the moment you hit them with classic trademarked accent rougher than a cheese grater

>>2912438
nailed it

>>2912438
I found Australia to be less racist than the US.
Lived in one for six years and the other for more than a decade for context.

>>2912710
I found it to be more racist, at least in Queensland where I was. And thats a good thing, because I'm white.

>>2912715
Queensland, especially FNQ QLD, has a rep for that. It's basically Texas. But it's also got a ton of Indigenous running around in a frenzy all the time.
Overall Australia leans more leftist than the US, especially in the big cities.

>>2912710
Portland is better than anywhere in Oz though

pros
>good climate for the most part on the eastern coast
>great for most outdoor activities
>good standard of living
cons
>authoritarian nannystate
>housing prices through the roof
>subject to a shitskin invasion and chink infiltration on a federal scale, so your typical 1st world problems

>>2912850
never traveled polposter

>>2912479
People will be nice to your face and take the piss out of you behind your back, or you'll be made fun of in front of your face but you won't know it

>>2914527
If they call you a cunt it means they like you. If they call you mate it means they hate you.

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>>2912856
As most on 4chan are

>>2914528
Depends on context and tone, very nuanced

>>2912497
>with 0 architecture or history
We've got the most beautiful victorian colonial architecture in the world but outside of that it's pretty grim. Our capital and most famous landmark weren't even design by Aussies.

>>2912718
>But it's also got a ton of Indigenous running around in a frenzy all the time.
So Texas?

>>2912715
The US I was limited because of my black skin. But in Australia I had enough of a support system around me that whatever racism I experienced it couldn't do actual harm to me just for being Indian.

>>2914629
>Our capital and most famous landmark weren't even design by Aussies.
probably a good thing considering the utter shite you lot build

>>2912497
I mean how many 200 year old buildings do you want to see? We have tonnes but nothing before that which is fine, go to Europe if you want to see ancient structures. Other than that we have abo caves and rock formations with handprints.
>>2912438
Our culture ranges from a shrinking population of outback salt of the earth farmer/miner type, rural/city shithead bogan to modern globohomo pod person with a slight accent. And now all cities are just a jeet/arab infested hellholes.
We’ve lost our national identity due to mass immigration. That former type of person I mentioned? Pretty interesting sort, but a dead/dying breed.

Sydney is shit (always has been but even worse now), we almost became a 24 hour global city but our retarded councils killed any hope of that 10 years ago.

Most people in the Sydney/Melbourne are total faggots. I’m leaving this sinking ship as soon as I get my dual citenship.

Housing is straight unaffordable unless you had a very good upbringing (read: family wealth) and/or be a total good goy wage slave.

>>2912374
A lot of jeets