Rest in peace edition>Last Thread: >>2909248>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.General Rules:1. Talk about Theme Parks and/or Rollercoasters.2. There is no second rule.Park Crowd Tracker:>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parksCurrent and historical wait times tracker:>https://www.thrill-data.com/Roller Coaster Database:>https://rcdb.com/Amusement Park News Sites:>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/>https://www.screamscape.com/>https://www.coaster101.com/Disney Park News:>https://www.wdwnt.com/>https://www.wdwmagic.com/>https://www.allears.net>https://www.mousesteps.comUniversal Park News:>https://www.insideuniversal.net
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>>2913728>>2913729Damn, pretty sad
>Fast & Furious Orlando switch track testing for 2 daysimo they wouldnt set up a temporary power supply if testing the actual track itself. Having permanent electrical supply all done and tested to then be used means they are quite far along into this ride.Id say by January they will have only the decoration left to do. >but F&F Hollywood took 2 yearsyes and shouldnt be used as comparison. the construction crew Universal use in Orlando are clearly much more experience from the steady work
>>2913726Can you seriously stop trying to make this your e-celeb simp thread like this is Kpop general the spam is getting obnoxious
>>2913734/rcg/ is a Katie board. You should get>>>/out/
>>2913734This is a Katie board. If you don't like it, you can leave. https://youtu.be/SjMLvUPb7xU?si=ZHtmfkZN_R0O0YxFEpcot with an Italian instead of Jewish liberal in charge
>>2913728>>2913729That was fast, they probably want it gone before lawyers can get access to it
>>2913726https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPLJERypC/
>>2913763>trims going up the second biggest airtime hill >mid course break run>shitty ending
>>2913728>>2913729shrub status guy is gonna love this
>>2913728>>2913729Holy shit they wasted no time
>>2913730>>2913746>>2913822>>2913824
>>2913840apparently they also removed all merch as well. We're going full-on memoryhole bois
are the GP just roller coaster goyim?
Just came from great america and everything was mid. I hope I just wasn’t in the mood tonight and I’m not getting desensitized to coasters. Maxx force used to be one of my favorites and I just wasn’t that impressed tonight despite sitting in the front and it apparently running faster this year.
>>2913858is Wrath of Rakshasa as rattle-y as they say?
>>2913867It’s dependent on seat. I rode next to the middle tonight and it felt fine. A year ago I rode the outside and I remember it being kind of bad. Both seats are way better than their respective seats on Tormenta though.
>>2913726https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPLenNn7T/
>>2913800Nah its relaxing . I agree trimming the beginning was a poor choice
>>2913726I’m so glad I got this ride this back around 2012 and 2013. Was TAD in San Diego for a few weeks and talked coworkers to driving up to MM for the weekend. X2 was worth it for the drive alone. Sad it’s gone, such a unique ride.
has anyone had the chance to sniff the seat after a hot girl sat on it. do rollercoast seats hold in a lot of odor? imagine the pheromones bursting onto that chair!
>>2913922>MCBR>relaxinfRide canuck goliath if you want to relax.
I still haven’t decided if I was the express passes to SFGAm’s fright fest houses tonight. Please help. $39 for admission, $85 for express.
Love this guy
>>2913969I have never been myself, but I do know Halloween events can often be pretty busy at parks.
>>2913970Unironically the greatest theme park in the world. The only serious competitor that people have proposed to its greatness I haven't been to is DisneySea. Universal Orlando is close but Efteling still takes the cake. I wish Disney and Universal would realize that you don't need IP to achieve greatness.
>>2913726>Another forced meme e-thot OPIt's all so tiresome.
>>2913973It looks like such a special place and I can't wait to visit it for the first time next year. We'll definitely stay onsite too.
>>2913976I've been twice, I didn't even really plan the second visit - I just happened to be in Europe again and decided to see if I could fit it in. Absolutely worth it. Hopefully I'll find the time to go once the new rides open in a few years.
>>2913977Yeah I'll miss the new coaster they announced but maybe that'll just be an excuse to visit again some other time.
>>2913974Katie is not a thot. She’s a virgin and will be until marriage.
>>2913971I got the regular. I’m just gonna rope drop the busiest one (Conjuring). Six Flags doesn’t deserve the extra $46. They’re not even selling the tickets in person this year. Had to go to guest services to buy because they have two websites offering them and one doesn’t work.
>>2913982Have fun!
>>2913867Only in row 3
>>2913982Been standing behind these 5 girls trying to rope drop Conjuring for 45 minutes. A manager came and spoke with them for 15 minutes trying to help them get tickets on their phones. They couldn’t get it to work so he sent them to guest services. When they return the line will be over an hour. It’s like Six Flags is trying to go bankrupt.
https://x.com/WEDenterprise/status/2106508636042228054?s=20Cosmic Rewind preshow changed to stop annoying faggots from yelling
>>2913988The pause before “I’m on” is gone?
>>2913994Yeah, the 1 whole second was enough dead air for people to yell out whatever joke they wanted. Happened almost every single time I rode. Either the employees got tired of it or someone yelled something crass. The one second isnt saving them any time so its the only possible answer for the cut.
>>2913998I've been on it 3 times and nobody ever yelled but I always cringed in pain of the anticipation.
>>2913999Most of the time its a kid. Cant imagine what some drunk would throw out. Also checked
I cannot get over how poor Six Flags is. They don’t have the money of Disney or Universal. They don’t have the soul of Dollywood or Silver Dollar City. They don’t have the passion of family owned parks like Holiday World or Knoebels. They don’t have the intimacy of small local parks. They just have poverty. Poverty as far as the eye can see - from the bad food at understaffed restaurants, to the underpaid, unmotivated staff, to the almost free entry, to the ugly visuals, to the in-park advertisements, to the shitty theming, to the incompetent leadership decisions, everything they do seems to scream “we are the worse there is”.
Is Hulk at IOA the only coaster to be retracked to keep it going? Pick related is from 05 so it’s the old school but it last ride was 22 and was still very intense it gave me a head ache
>>2914024What about Ghostrider? That was mainly to remedy the roughness and it became a world-class woodie as a result
>>2914024Most woodies, old Disney coasters like Space Mountain
>>2914024Python at Efteling
Have we clarified what qualifies a ‘hyper’ and ‘gigs’ yet?Is it height of the coaster or the drop height?
>>2914020You haven't seen an actually bad park if you unironically think SF is the nadir.
>>2914123It’s been both for at least 25 years.
>>2914136I didn’t say that, I said that’s the message they send.
>>2913973>Look up Efteling>This is the first resultKek
>>2913726Beautiful new Garden Attraction at Epcot!https://youtu.be/j2rEU4_VPvA?si=nkZDa94na_eatm2b
>>2914155Need more Disney shrubbery updates STAT
>>2913988They need to shorten these boring ass clips. It should be very short. If I wanted to see a movie I'd be at the AMC.
>>2913974She's a Christian. Something that is beyond your pagan brain's understanding.
How are the lines at Hollywood’s HHN on weeknights?
>>2913973>Unironically the greatest theme park in the worldUnironically WRONG. Yes it's themed nicely. But so are Phantasialand and Europa Park and they have 100x better rides, food and music.
>>2914163I heard the theming at Efteling is the best even if the rides are better at the other two. Can’t wait to get there and find out for myself. I’m feeling two days at each.
>>2914155Not Epcot but a temporary Disney exhibit in a non-Disney garden in Singapore.
>>2914024Nemesis got retracked and they used it to boost the theming.Most traditional Woodies are ongoing ship of Theseus affairs.
>>2914024>>2914181There are also some woodies that are getting problem sections replaced with Titan Track, and I think sooner or later one of them will get full wood-to-steel replacement (except low-wear sections like the station and lift)
>>2914024How did you get to bang hotties if you’re a thoosie?
>>2914185Coasters need to be just one part of your awesome life.
>>2914169I'm planning two days at each for my trip, as well as one day at Walibi Holland, Toverland, and Plopsaland Deutschland.
>>2914195I gotta figure out what all I want to do for the two weeks I’ll be over there. I know Disney, Parc Asterix, Plopsaland Belgium in addition to the ones you listed. Maybe the best theme park megaregion in the world.
>>2914179Sigh. You're right
>>2914193She's really pretty
>>2914202Yeah. If only her character had matched her looks.
Thoughts on the HHN lineup for Universal Orlando?I think it’s shit
>>2914208Future wine aunt lmao
Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:No news editionFlorida:>Monsters Inc. at Studios opens 2027 w/ 3D movie, Door Coaster later>"Tropical Americas" (Encanto, Carousel, and Indiana Jones retheme of Dinosaur) opens 2027>Disco Yeti fixed soon (TM)>Front Tire Land circa 2028>New MK Ferry being built>Liberty Belle Steamship intact as of July 2026 https://wdwnt.com/2026/07/top-deck-added-to-fourth-magic-kingdom-ferry-as-construction-continues/>Carousel of Progress: Life of a Boomer edition opening 2027>Spaceship Earth and Journey Into Imagination overhauls Soon (TM)>Villains Land 2028?>Railroad closed Sep 28-Oct 29>Disney Studios Animation Courtyard open now>Volcano Bay closed Oct 26, 2026 thru Mar 24, 2027>Lost Continent demolition continues>New rides being built by Intamin and Garmendale Engineering>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed thru Nov 19 2026>F&F coaster opens 2027>Horror Make-Up show closed for major refurb, re-opening late 2026>King Kong Klosed until further notice due to extensive (presumed fire) damage to the animatronic.California:>Fast and Furious coaster open now>Mike & Sully closes 2027, becoming Avatar >Autopia going All-Electric by Feb 2027>Tomorrowland overhaul sometimeEurope:>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest>New scenes in Rivers of the Far West in 2026>Space Mountain reverting to Jules Verne theme soon (TM)>Universal UK set for 2031Asia:>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock>Wreck-It-Ralph/Sugar Rush omnirover shooter replaces Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2027>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain: Earthrise closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2027 or later?>DisneySea Aquatopia closed 5ever>~15 Acre expansion to Universal JapanOther:>I guess FrightFest at every Six Flags is happening this monthDid I miss anything?
>>2914230I think that covers it.
>>2914181did a night ride on this saturday. With the lighting and how its built in the location it unironically beats any other invert in the world.
>>2914230>Front Tire Land 2028more like 2029>Villains Land 2028more like 2031>Volcano Bay...thru March 24 20271st April 2027>Lion King late 2027theyre not going to open a water ride in northern europe in winter. 2028
>>2914235I've never been to the UK. I'd like to visit Alton Towers someday, but I'll probably go to Six Flags Qiddiya City first if I ever decide to visit a muslim country.
I think inverts suck.
>>2914246chill with the homophobic remarks![spoiler]invert is an antiquated term for a gay guy[/spoiler]
>americans seething their local six flags batclone is nowhere near as good as a ride in a mid English park
>>2913970For me it's my nigga Hugo van den Loonsche Duynen>Dit VERVLOEKTE huis... Het is een hel gelijk...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhDUpDPfbY>>2913973If I really have to get down to brass tacks about it, I think DisneySea still has it beat purely on overall quality. However, Efteling is generally a way more comfortable/relaxed experience, has way more history to it and I've been going there since I was like three years old, so it's hard to beat that kinda nostalgia. I love both of them. I haven't been to Phantasialand tho, that's on my list for hopefully next year.
>>2914295Where?
>>2914230>Did I miss anything?This isn't /Disney/ or /Universal/ general, it is /tpg/+/rcg/. You should give updates and news from other parks as well.
>>2914185>>2914193Just don’t be autistic. Have a good personality, be playful, knowledgeable, and look your best. Theme parks a great place to meet women in your 20s just don’t do it alone. Have a guy friend with you, there are women that travel in packs that enjoy traveling and theme parks.
Is this the furthest a Universal project has got where we've no real idea what's being built there?
>>2914299Right here >>2914300
>>2914338We already know from the rumours. It’s a ‘Murder, She Wrote’ land. The trademarks were registered last month
>>2914230How about news that doesn't pertain to Disney and Universal? Independent parks, European parks, Enchanted, Six Flags never get mentioned.
>>2914341Six Flags and European parks are in that post. Thanks for confirming you never even read his posts anyway.
>>2914341Six Flags update>unridable shuttle coaster coming 2027>glide family coaster to Magic Mountain sometime in 2027>X2 rip
>>2914346>Six FlagsA token mention put in so (You) can be epically snarky>and European parks are in that post"How about news that doesn't pertain to Disney and Universal?"
>>2914348>replies “Six Flags never gets mentioned” to a post that mentions a Six FlagsWhat a shock, you’re just a little bitch.
>>2914349Your concession has been accepted.
>>2914323I’m in my 30s, ugly and short and autistic
>>2914356That’s just what a bitch would say.
>>2914362Regardless, I have already accepted your concession.
>>2914363Do you accept that you’re a bitch?
For me it’s not going on X2 the last time I was at MM and now deeply regretting it but also not because I can still go in the vastly superior Eijinakya version
>>2914373I hope to ride it before it also develops a deadly rattle. An in Japan, you better believe they won't wait until multiple people have gotten brain damage to close it.
>>2914371Your concession has been fully accepted.
>>2914383I’ll take that as a yes.
>>2914400Your concession has been accepted.
this is the worst roller coaster element and I think less of any coaster that has one
>>2914425Is this Hulk?Also fuck magic mountain. It sucked ass when I went there anyway. Mad I pussed out on X2 while I was there, though.
>>2914431It’s basically “what if a park cared about coasters and nothing else.” It’s pretty shit. You should have done X2 though. >>2914425I think it’s amusing that the classic steel coaster elements (vertical loop, corkscrew, cobra roll etc.) are considered boring now but the simple wooden coaster elements (airtime hill, bunny hill, double up, double down) are still built every year.
>>2914425Hulk bonks my head around a lot and I've decided that I will not ride it again.
>>2914425skill issue
>>2914434Bitches love airtime
>>2914339He didn't mention SF in his post at all.
>Kennedy getting a Maurer SpikeThey seem to be getting a steady stream of these for random tourist attractions. I can understand their use on boats where stalling would otherwise be frequent and a logistical nightmare but it's weird elsewhere.Wonder if we'll ever see higher capacity ones at a big theme park, they seem ideal for a dark ride system
>>2914434>what if a park cared about coasters and nothing else.Sounds like Thorpe Park1 family coaster (40 year old Mack powered coaster that is somehow able to stall), a big budget dark ride that was a disaster and a a scattering of water rides. Everything else is a white knuckle ride.The park could do with a family multi-launch coaster
Remember when Guardians had that failed holiday songs overlay when it opened then they abandoned it?They are attempting it again https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/new-holiday-tracks-coming-to-guardians-of-the-galaxy/
>>2914561>announce this sameday they announce prices are going up effectively immediatelywould be fine if a quarter of the place was closed off replaced with a construction site. What a mistake
>>2914571>implying those off-beat holiday jangles aren't worth an extra $100heresy right there m8
>>2914571Epcot had no construction going on for at least a year though.
maybe its a retard take but Im convinced Villains land was not planned until the announcement of rivers of america going and everyone complained about it
>>2914561Christmas Wrapping is a genuinely great choice, has the right pace for the ride.Trans-Siberean Orchestra feels too dramatic but otherwise goodAndy Williams is a bad choice.Should have picked "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" by Wizzard
>>2914576They've been wanting to do a Villains land for a long time. Announcement was probably rushed to try and make it a spoiler for Epic Universe but they kinda failed.
>>2914561I assume it was licensing related but when I saw this list earlier today and saw that Last Christmas by Wham wasn't on there I was thoroughly disappointed and disinterested. Also how are they going to overlay the entire rest of the ride? I looked it up and I guess they did a Christmas overlay before but it was a really shitty custom mix nobody liked and seemingly no single other part of the ride was changed to accommodate the new setlist, so I can imagine it will be super jarring. As if Cosmic Rewind needs a longer wait time during the Christmas season...Although on the subject of Epcot overlays I think Test Track would be prime for one. Again, as if Test Track needs a longer wait... but think about it. The forest scene can be decorated like Christmas trees with fake snow blowing, the future dome and lidar scene projections can be re-CGI'd to be snowy. The house scene can be decorated. This overlay admittedly serves zero story purpose unless you try to tie it in to winter tires and ice driving or something but you can't significantly change the ride itself to do that. Have GM go "Treat yourself with a Corvette this Christmas" at the exit or something.
I don’t even know what the current music has to do with anything on Guardians. God I would kill for it to be themed to be just a modern day space mountain. No marvel quips and no irrelevant albeit quality classic tunes, just the wonders of the cosmos.
>>2914616The edit with Universe of Energy theme is still kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDhALvMfBFc
>WDW increase AP prices>also remove AP discount on drinksyou WILL get less and less and we WILL charge more for it!you WILL argue how great a deal ($1900+tax+tip for 3.5 parks and 1 waterpark) it is as well!
>>2914612GotG is a fairly chaotic coaster so you need punchy music, Last Christmas is just a bit too gentle both in singing and music
I work at a chain of about 40 warehouses across North America. My colleague was telling me about the warehouse with the worst operators she knows of. She said it was Atlanta. I asked her what part of Atlanta it was. She pulled it up on google maps and it’s only a few miles from Six Flags Over Georgia, which is often thought of to have the worst operators in North America.
>>2914766Operators could be here
Retard just got banned for life for diving in the Gran Fiesta Tour
>>2914813a legend among his peers for eternity though
>>2914813to be fair to him it's one of the worst rides at all of WDW. still pretty cosy though
>>2914916How was it before the IPs got added in? Or were they always there?
>>2914922I rode it before the IPs. It was almost exactly the same ride but with very dated video walls instead of the "looking for donald" ones and worse music and the finale was some Small World tier marrionettes. The current version, with the animatronics, is arguably better unless you really hate any traces of IPs but it's still only a marginal improvement.The ride both then and now has it's charm as a hidden away Mr Toads Wild Ride style cheap attraction but it's never really been good.
If they had been fucking around in Figment I’d want to knock his teeth out. Sacred ground. I don’t even want the ride to update, it should stay the way it is.
>>2914813Real talk there's usually a lot of stuff under the surface in dark rides, they run conduits and cables across the bottom and often use metal brackets to hold various things in place. Usually it's not deep, either. Kid could've gotten impaled if he'd jumped in the wrong placeThe entire group might have gotten bans since they were egging him on
>>2914925I think people generally like the ride, because on the scale of how good the ride is compared to how long you typically have to wait for it, it's a pretty good investment. I think most people don't even know the ride is there.
>>2914916It’s in the top half of Epcot rides though
>>2914935You're right and its evidence that Epcot is incredibly over rated
>>2914934It was one of the reasons Epcot was so beloved by people who visited in the 90s and 00s.You just had rides seemingly hidden all over the place, you could spend hours in the Innoventions and the various pavillions, it was just a place you felt like you were actively exploring. Now the pavillions are mostly gone and almost all the rides are now big E-tickets that aren't hidden and most of the random themes of exploration and education are now IPs.
Knowing this area exists in the darkness of the ride has always creeped me out. But I never knew if they had left the animatronic in the space station facade.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZj6u54_jW0
[TERRIBLE NEWS] Katie is teasing an upcoming trip to Dollywood, and I will likely miss an opportunity to meet her by a week
one day she is going to meet you or someone just like you and quit social media living in fear of sickos approaching her
>>2914967Dollywood, not Carowinds?
>>2914973She's going to hit them both up on the same trip. Note the cinnamon bread.
>>2914972I can respect them for the commitments to it way more than that guy who makes a big list of Disney & Universal news and then leaves all the others out
>>2914967There was like a day off from one of my visits to Magic Kingdom that Adam the Woo was there, and also Tim Tracker
>>2914916It is unironically better than WDW's Small World. And it's not even close.>>2914925Not sure why I'm surprised that the Three Caballeros part was added later but I love it. I love the movie too so I thought it was crazy when I first discovered they had a ride for it given it's not exactly popular. The movie is cultural edutainment which is exactly deserving of an Epcot world showcase ride more than literally any other ride at world showcase. I saw a cute alt chick with a Jose Carioca ita bag once there
>>2914938Epcot is weird in that yes I think it is super overrated but also underappreciated by most people who go there. For whatever reason the worst parts of the park (the eating and drinking of overpriced garbage) are what attract people and not anything that the park once stood for. Normies do not give a fuck about Living with the land. They sleep through American Adventure. But they wait in line in the blazing sun for mostly shitty festival food and alcohol.
>>2915010>It is unironically better than WDW's Small World. And it's not even close.No it’s not.
>>2914949Was really disappointed the educational places were mostly gone.
>>2915037this is what the entire ride looks like. iasw is not sacred in Florida. The original in California should always stay but get fucking rid of this shithole ride at MK.
>>2915040No it doesn’t. California’s small world is IP slop and has way too much dead space. Also the raised trough is inferior to the river.
>>2914813they would never on the GOAT
>>2913734This. That plain little piggie is fucking annoying
>>2914230>Disney adult detected>asks if he missed anything>lists literally nothing but Disney and Universal slop>every other theme park on Earth could be bulldozed tomorrow and this faggot wouldn’t noticeYes, you missed something, you absolute muppet. EVERY OTHER THEME PARK OTHER THAN DISNEY OR UNIVERSAL. Six Flags, Cedar Fair, SeaWorld, Dollywood, Europa-Park, Phantasialand, Efteling, Liseberg, Busch Gardens… literally an entire industry outside your corporate IP bubble.Go back to plebbit, Disney adult. The rest of the theme park world doesn’t stop existing just because Mickey didn’t announce a new overpriced churro or Universal didn’t slap a launch coaster onto another movie franchise.
>>2914361Sounds like every girl’s dream guy. All you’re missing is being Indian and chicks would find you irresistible
Thinking of stealing a trip to Busch Gardens before I fly out of Orlando for Thanksgiving. It would have been about 15 to 20 years or so since I've last been there, what's been the recent news?
>>2915194>Scorpion is gone RIP >Stanleyville falls is gone RIPSupposedly they’re going to use the plots from both rides for a new Mach rocking boat indoor/ outdoor ride that they say will be higher quality than anything in Orlando>Kumba is gone RIPApparently it’s going to be replaced with a Gigacoaster called Kumba’s revenge
>>2915196>ScorpionI miss that little nigga like you wouldn’t believe. I genuinely shed a tear when they announced they were removing it. Must have ridden it 20x before the last STING of the Scorpion
>>2915196>Apparently it’s going to be replaced with a Gigacoaster called Kumba’s revengeWhat's the evidence for it? It could happen I just don't know if any planning commission docs are public or anything like that, or if it's just wishful thinking.I hope it is a giga because thoosies have said for years they have a "height restriction" even though they already have a ride over 300 feet.
>>2915200It’s just a rumor now but it was in the customer survey
New BGW Survey. I like every single option, esp the Italy expansion and the Volcano water ride
>>2915207Shit forgot the link https://imgur.com/a/N3bPgA5
>>2915207>>2915209They allowed to build this so close to Kings Dominion?
>>2914813>banned for lifeLike how lmao as if they id every fucking guest every day
>>2915218They use facial recognition now. I saw a video where some influencer guy got banned from Universal for being a nuisance. He came back wearing a disguise, and the facial recognition saw through his sunglasses and fake mustache. And he wasn't even doing anything that time, he was just walking around and riding stuff.
>>2915218you do know disney collects your finger prints?>>2915221you are made to stay still and look directly at the camera at universal, even take off your hat. at Epic their entrance facial recognition is better since you walk through and it clears you (you have to upload a picture for your ticket). amazing technology
>>2915211>They allowed to build this so close to Kings Dominion?Yes, unless KD paid RMC to exclude new rides of that type within a certain distance, which they will do but it's really expensive, and I don't think Six Flags is going to spend money for that>>2915227Installing facial recognition systems would do a world of good for Six Flags
>>2915230> Installing facial recognition systems would do a world of good for Six FlagsBlanket bans of “youths” would do a lot to making SF really successful
I know I risk "muh shrubs" but this pic by someone highlighting that the Adventure World expansion theming is shit if you're child height kinda has a point.
>>2915211They’re RMCing Invadr already?
>>2914925I kind of feel like there were a lot more fireworks in that last city room
>>2914934>>2915010Of all the places in the World section of Epcot, it's almost entirely indoors, in the air conditioning. That's a huge plus over the rest of the World. But the Mexico pyramid pavilion is also a fairly interesting imagineered place made to look like the town square at night, it's interesting to go in and look around. People do not have a problem with the ride because they consider it to be an extension of the whole experience anyway.
>>2915227That's not really fingerprinting, like they are not doing a police fingerprint and wouldn't even be able to recognize it's youIf you went back you could just use another finger. It's more the flock surveillance that would prevent you from coming back because they would store that
>>2915310Busch Gardens has lockers that open by using your face so you don’t even need to remember a code or keep a key
>>2915221I hate facial recognition for the parks. They're turning us into a godless surveillance state like China. But I guess it might help with catching pedophiles. Or just make all the employees assholes which I've seen at Universal.
>>2915227lmao whats next? Metal detectors?Fucking America manAm I happy I live in Europe where theme parks are normal
>>2915312Epic Universe has them as well but they installed the cameras at manlet level, bending down for your picture feels very gay>>2915342to be fair to disney their security point and detectors are the way forward. no opening of your bag no big line, you just walk through a detector bag on back>>2915310I dont understand what the fingerprinting is for when they wont let you in without it
>>2913726Does California Universal and Disneyland even have any white people left? Every video I watch from there is swarmed with nonwhites.
>>2915343>I dont understand what the fingerprinting is forTo act as a deterrent against the resale of used tickets. They generate a hash based on your fingerprint and assign it to the ticket so when its used again if the hash doesnt match they can card you and compare it to whats on file. Today it mostly serves as a humiliation ritual for parents when they keep using random fingers for each kids ticket. Theres probably a small handful of tickets a week that are denied for being resale these days. Universals used to put your photo on the annual passes 2 decades ago but I don't think a single employee ever actually compared it.
>>2914938Epcot is the best park and Mexico is my favorite ride. I love how it makes me feel.
>>2915342Everything bad in the USA can be traced back to liberals.
>>2915302I love that the wait time is short. Its just such a happy place.
>>2915350thanks
>>2915310>If you went back you could just use another finger.I don't know what you mean because this isn't true, it wont work if you use a different finger than the first one you used on that ticket
>>2915315Meds
>>2915349Haven’t been to universal yet but I saw around 20 white people during my three days at DL in May. I think 19 was my official count.
>>2915415Jesus Christ, that’s grim. What is it, all beaners? How can they afford DL?
>>2915422Yeah like 90% beans. They’re all AP holders. 75% of the workers are beans as well.
>>2915310>index finger got badly infected>instinctively used it for the initial scan>finger exploded in a mess of puss that evening>wouldn't read it againAt least they did let me register another finger
>>2915430It used to be cozy when they were a grateful, cute population of 5%. Now that their culture is completely taking over, it's depressing, crime ridden, and dysfunctional.
>>2915422It explains now why tyrannical thirdie China type surveillance stuff is so accepted there now. It's sad seeing clean white Christian culture be completely replaced by brown squats. The world will not recover. The biggest shitholes pop out babies like rabbits. China India and various African nations as well as yellow brown and black Islanders like Puerto Rico Philippines ect
>>2915415Yeah I saw a livestream on TikTok of HHN in California. The entire place was all Mexican. Liberals rapidly fucked up that place and handed the economy over to them.
>>2915449Nice try chuddie. LA has never been safer.
>>2915452>Source: LAPD lol, lmao, rotflmfao
>>2915456THEY BE HIDIN’ THE BODIES!!!
>>2915458Naw nigga dey be choppin the bodies up and sellin em to the chinese restaurants and the cannibals
>>2915196I miss Busch Gardens. I went there a lot. Have a great video of a road trip I did in 2005 with my best friend. We brought two girls with us we met at IOA earlier that week. The video is full nostalgia showing Python, Scorpion, and Stanley Falls. Also first year Sheikra opened.
>>2915462Sounds amazing. I think that was peak BGT. Right before AB got bought by InBev and the theme parks were spun off to private equity. Rhino Rally was still around back then too I think
>>2915462I've a whole bunch of DVI tapes from ~1998 from a Florida holiday (complete with Birthday Cake Disney castle). Need to find a cheap way of transfering them.There's probably a video of me doing the ship's captain bit on the MGM backlot tour.
>>2915468> Need to find a cheap way of transfering them.I used to remember always seeing video transfer machines in the sky mall magazines, then Hammer Schlemmenrfluegeebuurger, and Sharper Image. Now they don’t even have sky mall anymore. Sad times :(
Article on Merlin's finances.Looks pretty grim : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/0aa774aae6e21ccc
Horror makeup show is getting retooled. Guess it's going to be less of an improv show now.
Falcons flight anon is fucked isn’t he
>>2915483I canceled that trip lol, I’m going to California instead to make Fast and Furious my 400th. Funny, yesterday I almost regretted canceling, thinking it might have cooled off.
/ourguy/ is back and dunking on Universal Studios this time, and he’s right on point https://youtube.com/watch?v=GZmc1cSI4Sc&ra=m
I want to see Katie’s coasters
>>2915466Oh yeah forgot about Rhino Ralley! Got to ride that too. Was fun>>2915468It cost a good bit but there are a lot of companies that will digitalize your videos. Was really nice watching all of them again 20 years later. I also filmed us going through the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man and they tried to confiscated my camera. I walked away.
Remember when Disney would offer all the below by staying at their hotels>free shuttle from airport>free magic bands>enter parks 1 hour before opening>stay in parks additional 3 hours at no extra cost>3 free fastpasses each day>deliver shopping direct to hotel room
>>2915608Was Rhino Rally as good as I remember it? In my memory it was peak ride, worthy of being listed alongside Jaws, Hagrid's and Monsters Unchained. Part legitimate safari ride, the Jungle Cruise skipper type elements where every ride is different based on what driver you get, audience participation with whatever kid they chose to be navigator, pretty great ride effects, a storyline and some drama about getting lost. But that was 25 years ago so maybe it was just me being a kid.
>>2915568BTTF isnt an original ride. when the park opened it got a lot of hate. BTTF ride turned it around. this guy has no clue.
>>2915620It seems outdated to us now but its motion system was the really about the highest tech you could get when it was constructed. They'd show it a lot on news segments about "the future of thrill rides" and "how does that work" Discovery Channel tier stuff
>>2915615It was good when the water element was still there. Once that’s was taken away the uniqueness faded away. Expedition Theme Park did a good video of ithttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=30_5pZAgCaw&pp=ygUiRXhwZWRpdGlvbiB0aGVtZSBwYXJrIHJoaW5vIHJhbGxleQ%3D%3D&ra=m
>Riyadh Airport attacked yet againSay goodbye to Six Flags Sandland ever attracting westerners to show up>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr93znyk44e1o
>>2915452>Wang, Los Angeles Times You can't make this up
>>2915644>Six Flags Sandlandwtf what a great name, why didn't they call it that?
>>2915644sooner or later the plug will be pulled on the park and I believe Disney will eventually pull out of UAE too. The demand just isnt there and there have been several attempts to try in the last 25 years>you now remember Dubailand
>>2915716>tfw freedom and capitalism will never sweep the region and allow westerners to experience Falcon's Flight like any other roller coaster
>animal kingdom tropical America >still looks like an early days construction site 2 years in with framework only doneI’ll be really surprised that opens in 2027 but I do think the Monster Inc area will open March/April next year>>2915732There’s a chance Disney does their UAE land anyway because it’s Arab money funded on Yas Island, Disney just there for creative side. Universal spent 2billion before stopping their Dubai park, Disney got smart getting the Arabs to fund theirs
>>2915622Yep, at a time when everyone was using Redifusion simulators, this had a motion setup that was smaller, allowed for quicker movement and open vehicles
>>2915716From all accounts they are likely going to keep mentioning Disney UAE less and less until the whole thing is never brought up again and quietly scrapped but never officially mentioned as such, we'll only here what happened when current executives retireNothing they can do is going to stop that this park would be 200 miles from Iran
>>2915655>chud is racist against non-whitesImagine my shock.
>>2913973You oversold it. I visited yesterday, the theming is great and there's more animatronics in the park than any other place I've visited, but the actual thrill rides are feeble. Python is a surprisingly smooth roller coaster which mislead me into thinking it was a Vekoma, I'll be surprised if it is as the track is very smooth, interestingly the only time I've been allowed to carry my luggage onto the ride seat, on a looping coaster, as I panicked actually hung it around my neck and basically lynched myself for the first ride... thank fuck it wasn't rough. Yeah they're really generous with letting you take luggage on the rides, Baron is the only one where you can't, it seems.Baron is the other thrill ride, its another drop coaster. Its the best-themed arguably, although Oblivion hmm... could be better, its hard to say. Having been on much taller drop coasters it didn't impress me aside from the theming.Otherwise all other rides are clearly aimed more towards children and if I came there with a hypothetical family, it'd be great! But when you're geared towards thrills it falls far short of the other 'great' European theme parks. The fountains at the beginning did wow me, and the carnival was fun. Unfortunately Danse Macabre broke down just before I was about to ride it, boooo!... In fact that happened three times on different rides but Danse was the only one I didn't get to go on because of it.
>>2915824When people say best theme park they aren’t referring to thrills. How would you rank the theming along worldwide?
>>2915828>When people say best theme park they aren’t referring to thrills.Lol. The cope begins
>>2915832It’s true. Two different things. I’ve never seen anyone claim Efteling was an elite thrill ride park. Same with almost all Disney parks.
Any for HHN Hollywood with early access on a Wednesday? Never been to any HHN.
>>2915835Thrill rides are integral to a theme park. Remove them and what do you have? A bullshit themed shopping & dining district with a fireworks show
>>2915839You have non-thrill rides obviously. What kind of question is that?
>>2915843>The cope continues
>>2915845>no responseI accept your concession.
>>2915828Its among the top for the animatronics. I think Alton Towers is better, partly for being a genuinely pretty stately home and garden, plus the rides themselves have been given a real labour of love over the years, say what you will of Merlin's other ventures. Phantasialand is now at the point where my memory is more fuzzy but that was the first time I was really wowed by a place in terms of its appearance, I imagine if I went back it'd possibly top Efteling. Europa Land is cool too but it doesn't really have the same charm as the others. Hansa Park is delightful and I love parks that are more concentrated in theming, the way the rides are integrated into it is clever.>>2915835>>2915839See, I kind of see it from both angles: Ultimately a top-tier theme park does need a lot of great roller coasters, I'm there to be thrilled, thrill me! Equally, you can't really just stick a bunch of big roller coasters in a trailer park. Just look at Six Flags and Energielandia, the roller coasters are good experiences for the most part but in those bland environments they lose a lot of the wow factor they would have in a more, well... themed... theme park. I think Europa Park is as successful as it is because it has a strong combination of both great theming and great rollercoasters, its not the best at either sure but a good theme park in my eyes has a strong symbiosis between the rides and the theming - just look at Voltron, if it were stuck in Six Flags it'd just be like painted yellow, it'd be an open-air queue or something and it'd feel way more... well... meh. Efteling in a way is the best at this... if you were a kid... unfortunately its way too tame for an adult on their own.Also read >>2913973 Efteling 'The greatest theme park in the world' pffffft!
yeah Efteling is shit. Doesnt even have a dive coaster
>>2915849>I'm there to be thrilled, thrill me!Redpilled>>2915847>I accept your concession.Bluepilled
>>2915849Alton Towers is still a good park despite what people say and what Merlin are doing on operating budgets. Running that place is like fighting with one arm tied behind your back.It is well overdue a big investment and imo its pointless sinking tens of millions into the other merlin parks, even with minecraft area. it wont boost attendance. Chessington is an unbelievably woeful park
They don't have views like this in Saudi Arabia
>>2915875
Apparently someone fell off of Goliath at SFOG
>>2915849>I'm there to be thrilled, thrill me!This isn't about your personal tastes.
>>2915900NO NO NODO NOT TAKE THAT ONE AWAY FROM ME TOO
>>2915900Apparently Six Flags has just shut down every B&M hyper in all their parks
>>2915900Local news has confirmed one person died
So according to the news report I saw, he came out of his seat at the part of the ride where your picture is taken, and actually hit some riders further back as he was flying out. Crazy stuff.
>>2915908The post news report
I don't regret being too scared to ride "real" coasters. Disney rides only for me. (ignore that time someone died on a disney coaster)
>>2915910F
>>2915912This was what I saw https://www.11alive.com/article/news/nation-world/riders-stuck-on-the-six-flags-goliath-roller-coaster/85-5a07f6d0-6ab6-458e-8b7b-4d3619436b4b
All B&Ms are being shut down company wide
>thoosies:Dead, getting hit in the face with corpses, covered in blood>themechads:Enjoying the thought provoking narrative, basking in the ambiance, getting their dick sucked by a girl
I know there are 5000 goliaths but I thought for a moment this was Magic Mountain and was about to say that whole park is FUCKED
If this is the fault of the ride itself this is the first US mechanical fault causing a death since the Wild Wonder accident in 1999For it to happen at as big of a park as a Six Flags park would be stunning
>>2915923I’d say blame the operators but I don’t think even Georgia’s employees could fuck this up. It’s simply not going to roll unless all the restraints are showing down. So it could be maintenance fucking up. If not that then the manufacturer.
>>2915485Good for you anon. Especially after the recent Goliath scandal. I like coasters but not enough to die for 'em.
>>2915732Nothing to do with the politics, everything to do with the climate.
>>2915927Pretty sure politics (wars) matter.
>>2915926Sucks because I’m still an overseas virgin. No credits outside the US and Canada. But yeah not worth the risk.
>>2915910Holy shit this is fucking horrifying. Imagine going on this with your kids and having them watch your corpse bounce around and then explode on them. Fuck that shit man.
>>2915929No rush anon, there's time. England, Japan, and the EU are all relatively safe and have a decent selection of parks to choose from. Plus in terms of theme parks/thrill rides, the US on a whole can't be beat.
What is being claimed as the on-ride photo of the ride
>>2915923Does Big Thunder not count since it was maintenance related?
I'm seriously thinking they need to retire the Six Flags name company-wide, after this and X2
>>2915913Looked up a POV and wtf it looks tame as hell. Even I would ride it/I've ridden worse. I suppose it is all ejector time so of course you could get thrown out but still. >>2915933Noting the restraint not engaged at all
>>2913726https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPLSkN6W6/Love this humor
Okay but how does this affect Disney world shrubbery?
>>2915933What am I looking at? Can someone circle the important bits? All the censoring makes it really hard to focus.
>>2915944You don’t see the legs?
Per coasterpedia, this isn't the first death on Goliath.>On June 2, 2001, a 28-year-old woman died after suffering brain damage while riding Goliath. While the ride was initially closed, it reopened later that day after an inspection. The following day, an autopsy failed to find a pre-existing condition and Goliath was once again closed for investigation. The ride reopened on June 14 after OSHA investigators deemed the ride safe to operate.
>>2915946Yes Im pretty sure the guy breaking into epcot after hours and blowing his brains out with a shotgun in the imagination pavillion bathroom is also a fault of the normal operation of the park.
>>2915933>Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation.
>>2915947Both today's death and the 2001 death are from riding the coaster though. I'm just nervous man, and sad I never got to ride X2. I've ridden Goliath multiple times. It's got decent theming, but the coaster itself is nothing to write home about which makes the incident so odd.
>>2915946Wrong Goliath
>>2915900>>2915908>>2915910>>2915915Jesus this one is fucked up, imagine being in that train and getting blood splatter on you
>>2915950My bad.But it seems like the Goliath from today is even tamer than the one with the 2001 death? Something smells fishy.
>>2915952California’s has a bigger drop but it loses a TON of speed at its MCBR (seriously probably the worst MCBR ever). Not much happens the rest of the ride but some tiny helixes, which are very intense because of their size but those would push you into your seat, not eject you. Goliath is almost all airtime besides its own helix. The ejection happened during the ending bunny hills where it still carries plenty of speed.
>>2915951The blood is just gross and freaky. I’d be more worried about having what appears to be a rather large body hitting me.
>>2915925>>2915938Yeah that restraint is not down at all, which should mean that the ride shouldn't be able to move. I don't know if that could be overruled manually like the Smiler accident where the sensors stopped the ride because there was a train stuck in the block zone ahead but they sent the train on anyway. But I'd agree that I'd guess maintenance or mechanical failure, and I'm going to predict right now that every B&M hyper that doesn't currently have seatbelts is about to get seatbelts.
>>2915957>I'm going to predict right now that every B&M hyper that doesn't currently have seatbelts is about to get seatbelts.Yeah from a selfish perspective that’s what’s on my mind. I wonder if that would even stop with B&M hypers. What about other B&Ms? Or other coasters in general? Will other chains follow suit?
>>2915956HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
New rumor from reddit that the guy was so fat he wasn’t allowed on the other rides.
>>2915968Doesn't look that fat from the photos though
>>2915933
>>2915969Yeah, that’s a fairly small amount of flesh for an average-sized person, I’d say?
>>2915971Thanks anon I really wanted to see his ass.
>>2915971>died with his ass crack exposed in a photo that will live forever
>>2915968It doesn't matter that this retard was obese. If a ride has its restraint that the guy fit in and was sent off without issue it should not fly open halfway through the ride
seen on a news stream. black tarp with blood stains? the news must've thought that because they would censor it later in the stream.
I guess if this guy came flying towards you and you got hit with blood splatter, you cat at least be glad it wasn't his shit
>>2915977https://www.youtube.com/live/3KaNTy2sO2w?si=AyDsJnudwajzXItR&t=4345this link is set up ~20 seconds before the censorship starts
>>2915976Yep. Is it joever for B&M? This isn’t even one of their shitty new coasters. This was from their supposed golden age. I read somewhere B&M themselves considered this their magnum opus, at least for the hypers.
>>2915977Do you think that black tarp is covering the body?
>>2915982That’s the speculation.
>>2915981>it's B&M's fault that six flags doesnt maintain anything
>>2915981No it's over for Six Flags at leastCEO is gone for sure after this and X2. They are going to take another massive financial hit which might force off more park sales or bankruptcy. They might look to deemphasize the Six Flags name from their parksWill Over Georgia survive this? Remains to be seen.
>>2913726Too soon OP
>>2915957>Yeah that restraint is not down at all, which should mean that the ride shouldn't be able to move.Then it points to the restraint coming up after dispatching, but I still don't know for sure it's "all the way up" from that angle, not enough information for me to make that call
My money is on maintenance issue. I've seen the "kind" of people who work there.
>>2915990What kind of people anon?
>>2915984Why did B&M make the safety of their dependent on perfect behavior by maintenance wagies?
>>2915993this is "sue gun manufacturers for mass shootings" level of dumb
>>2915987Their stock is already down 10% according to google.
>>2915910I'm having a hard time imagining the physics of all this, bouncing around multiple times on the car, hard enough to splatter people with blood, seems like with that kind of force you'd just tumble straight off. Wild shit
>>2915992Not him but they’re just skilled blue collars, not unlike the kind of people you’d find when getting your oil changed.
>>2915971That's his son next to the empty chair. Poor kid
>>2915989I can’t tell from the photos. Looks like he was a big guy. I’ve read B&M restraints can sometimes not full lock into position but appear to and then they’ll move (slightly open) to the next position, fully safe but freaks out riders. I wonder if something like this happened but it was in the minimum position with nothing to lock to, the sensor showed green (or whatever it does) and the ride operators are retarded because it’s SFOG. I’m just very skeptical that the restraint failed, it would be a first on a B&M
>>2915971Why does the photo screen look AI? It obviously isn't but it's all mushy. And it doesn't seem to be the camera upscaling as everything else looks normal.
>>2915998I will take things I refuse to believe for $500, Alex.
>>2916001because they want you to buy the pristine photo, so they distort the one on the screen a little bit so buying the higher quality photo is better than your camera phone photo
>>2915998That's awful. >>2916000Something like that might make sense. If anybody's going to fuck something up it would be a ride op at Over Georgia. Famously there was that coaster studios video that showed them dispatching Superman with somebody's leg out of the restraints just dangling freely. Still though if the light says it's closed it's hard to blame them for assuming it's good to go.
>>2916000>>2916004Well the thing about those restraint sensors is that they only work in the station and most importantly, they can only show that the restraint is locked to some minimum position. It can't tell if the restraint is all the way down or just on that minimum click - that's why they don't have self-checking restraints and never will, and it's part of the operator's job.
>>2915994False equivalence. Allow me to educate you. The higher up you can go on the hierarchy of controls, the better. The first two levels are about removing the hazard. But of course no one wants to live in a world without roller coasters, so let’s move down another level. Now we’re at engineering controls. This level is about making failure impossible. Think about how you can’t start your microwave without the door closed. That’s an engineering control. But suppose that was impossible for some reason. Now you’d need an administrative control, like a warning sign on the microwave saying “do not start if door is open”. If administrative controls sound inferior to engineering controls, it’s because they are.It’s B&M’s job to put in engineering controls everywhere they can. An appropriate control here would have been a sensor that detects whenever either of the redundant locking mechanisms on a restraint has failed and not allowing a dispatch when that happens. B&M instead opted for administrative controls, relying on $30/hr maintenance workers to be perfect every time. It works, until it doesn’t and you have obese people falling off your rides.
>>2915998Holy shit just noticed him. Gotta be son or at least family. Total horror.
>>2916008You're assigning blame before a proper investigation m8. Look at airplane crashes. It's not "plane falls out of sky, immediately sue Boeing". It's plane falls out of sky, have an investigation, send the black boxes over, give the reports anywhere from 10 days to 1000+ days (did the Chinese ever explain why that flight crashed?) and then have lawsuits. It is entirely possible the fault does not lie with B&M.
Is this the guy everyone is saying is the son?
>>2915952They're completely different rides designed by different companies
>>2916008>B&M instead opted for administrative controls, relying on $30/hr maintenance workers to be perfect every time.Ryan the Ride Mechanic has a good video about why your idea won't work
>>2916014>0 inversions>steel coaster>same color schemeI already said I was wrong and now would like to add that I am sorry. Can you please accept my concession so we can move on?
>>2916017Don't fuck up again
Newest rumor is that not only was that his son next to him, but his mom was watching from the ground.
>>2915996Holocaust rollercoaster deniers looking foolish.
Reading mixed reports about dispatching B&Ms with unlocked restraints. The restraint in the photo appears to be fully opened and unlocked. This ride does have green lights on seats locked in the safe position but some are saying you can still dispatch it and some are saying you can’t. The ride operators at this park are probably the worst in the chain so I wouldn’t put it past them to dispatch a train where the restraint was in an unsafe position but it couldn’t have been open the whole time because this happened toward the end. Either it catastrophically failed or it was dispatched in the last possible position, which is not safe but they dispatched it anyways. And it wasn’t fully locked and had no other position to lock into.
>>2916026Yeah, the fact that he lasted almost to the end of the ride is the most confusing part to me
>>2916011Another false equivalence. The main difference here is that planes can't help but be flown by humans, so they are, and it's very possible the pilot just fucked up. But if the safety of the coaster you designed relies on some high schooler doing the right thing every time, YOU fucked up.
>>2916017Also the same kind of model, the "traditional hyper".
>>2916028That's where the ejector is, right? Tiny hills with plenty of speed left.
>>2916012other side
>>2916008you can't out-engineer equipment wear and tear
>>2916038You can engineer out the possibility of dispatching a coaster than can’t run safely due to wear and tear.
>>2916033>can't help but be flown by humans>2026>still believing thisThey have to be repaired and maintained by humans but they do not need to be flown by humans and 99% of the time autopilot is being used.
>>2915971>>2915968>>2915976the guy looks big. Id wonder the harness actually clicked in or argued with the ride staff who thought fuck it and are ultimately to blame.the train will have failsafes that the harness cannot move if it clicks in.
>>2916028>he lasted to the endprobably fighting for his life to keep his harness down and couldnt do it anymore towards the end. maybe wasnt a surprise but was happening the entire way round trying to keep it down
>>2915998Press x to doubt:>I was next in line to get on Goliath. Someone did in fact fall out. The train pulled into the station, all the riders were distressed, and a man who was sitting next to the seat that failed was screaming that whoever was sitting next to him fell out. The seats restrain was completely unlatched and unlocked with no one in the seat. Very sad and surreal to see a train return with the seat up and unlocked while people are crying and yelling to get off.
>>2916055It shouldn't run if it's not clicked in. That's why even if the train has empty seats, they still have to push the lap bar down. The system isn't supposed to allow the train to dispatch if every lap bar isn't clicked.
Imagine riding a roller coaster and an obese black man lands on you.
>>2916053Who flies the plane the other 1% of the time anon?
>>2916062That is not the case for all coasters
I gotta say if it’s either Six Flags or B&M’s fault, B&M probably has the better safety record.
>>2916074>not the man’s fault as wellWe’ve seen it many times before a very large man argues that they fit in the seat.
>Twitter filled with posts saying “yeah it’s the only coaster I’ve been on where they didn’t check my restraint”>literal video of a guy with the restraint at highest lock and almost coming out of his seat on every hill with the captain “these ride ops don’t give a shit”>that ambulance chasing lawyer who specialises in trying claims at parks has finally got his open and closed book slam dunk case to make his millionsNever give up on your dreams bros
>Yup... That's me. You're probably wondering how I Serious question why does shit like this only happen in burgerland?And what was the cause? Was he too fat? In europe we never have shit like this. Our biggest theme park accident was the smiler like 20 years ago.WTF happened here? Too fat?
>>2916080Imagine getting on a roller coaster when we're a few years away from the singularity & we'll have shit way better than a... chair you sit in that. RIP but cmon man
>>2916080Smiler was 11 yrs ago>why does this happen in US?Six flags lack of discipline/management in parks that aren’t named Cedar Point, cheap labour and in a part of the country with high population of the most argumentative and violent people who don’t like rules
>>2916081>>2916084So he was too fat and the lap bar closed on his belly thats why he blubbered out of there? Alright
>>2916085You know what fatties are like. They’ll do anything to avoid that walk of shame getting off and walking to the exit. Likelihood he lied/made a fuss about the restraint and the ride ops didn’t give a shit. Can’t see if as mechanic failure because they are trained and have sign a ride as clear each morning. It’s a low paid member not caring.
>>2916080The fatness makes it difficult to restrain safely while also putting excess force on the restraint itself the entire ride. The average urban youth ride operator isn't going to care enough to check if a restraint is on properly. This carelessness becomes such a routine that even if something was obviously wrong they wont even notice. They'll try to start the ride then get confused and run around like a headless chicken when it doesnt go because a whole cars restraints are still up in the air. If maintenance doesnt care you'll get negligent work thats a result of either laziness, outside pressure, or genuine retardedness from unskill low cost labor. Executives can't ban fat people because they'll lose 80% of their revenue overnight. So yes his inability to not shovel food into his disgusting gullet like an addict is the cause of his death since he was at the mercy of the careless.
>>2916080It's kinda neat that the UK is a country with a load of theme parks and the worst accident that wasn't caused by the rider didn't even result in a fatality. There are rumours that one of the reasons there isn't an RMC being built her is because their restraints don't meet UK safety requirements.Wonder if we'll see restraints redesigned. Possibly just the camera angle but the Goliath restraints seem a lot less wraparound than other modern lap restraints. Just so long as we don't see those shin clamps everywhere.>>2916080Really wouldn't suprise me if it was a case of ignored/overridden warning light
>>2916089You cant override a warning light on a coaster broThe restraint was pushing to his belly, not his legs. That's why he fell out.
>>2916090That's what happened on The Smiler, admittedly it was an engineer that did it.
>>2916080Not only did the wagies not secure the guy properly, they didn't care enough to turn off the display either.You just know pic related would've done his job to protect the park's reputation & unplug the screen immediately.
>>2916089>new restraints to this coasterYep. Seatbelt from the clamshell to either side of the seat I bet. Cheapest fail safe
>>2916090Maintenance can if theyre that retarded. Its how the drop tower accident happened at the Orlando Eye a few years back. They got tired of taking fat fucking tourist off the ride and giving them a refund so they had maintenance bypass the weight sensors. Worked until someone too fat wasnt secured at all and got pavement smashed.
>>2916094>the entire world sees your arse crack in your last momentsWe live in a cruel world
>>2916093I'm not actually sure what kind of design could fix it, if the issue is that it came down on his stomach, belts wouldn't stop him from slipping. "Hopefully" it's a case of criminally negligent ride ops and not restraint design being fundamentally flawed. Also wonder if it'll spur more manufacturers to offer big & tall seats to reduce the temptation for minimum wage staff to do the "fuck it, just give it the ok">>2916094>>2916096Feel kinda bad. No one deserves that lack of dignity in death and the family will see that image non-stop for the next year. I'm guessing they'll be in line for a 7 figure payout though.
>white man dies by tiger in park>IS OWN FAULT! LEAVE DAT TIGER ALONE!>black man dies by ride in park>SHUT DOWN ALL DEM COASTERS DEY UNSAFE HE INNOCENT MAN
>>2916098They were both retards.. We just need to keep retards in group homes all day basically, otherwise when they're let out into the real world they'll just keep dying.
>>2916089> Wonder if we'll see restraints redesignedWould not be surprised if all rollercoasters will be required to have over the shoulder restraints with seat belts now the way they used to
>>2916106There are a few possible options. Shin clamps already exist (they're just uncomfy as fuck) but I could see them experimenting with a few failsafes like loose shoulder belts or shoulder hooks (non enclosed restraints that pull down and you don't make contact with but will "catch" you if you slip upwards.
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>>2916080>Serious question why does shit like this only happen in burgerland?This is entirely incorrect and this is your Reddit-level confirmation bias of muh heckin Evrope in play. US has more coasters so more chance of accidents happening but saying it only happens there is retardedA year or two ago Europe had more roller coaster and theme park deaths than the US did.
>Orlando icon park>stardust>SFOG GoliathWhy is it always black folk?
>>2916129Bc ride operators can’t tell them what to do, otherwise they would be raaaaacist
I think the lesson here is not to go to parks staffed exclusively with black teenagers
Ok the guy who died by the tiger filmed himself in the enclosure and has been pictured holding a cross bow and bible. Looks like he went picking a fight and lostRegardless the tiger should be shot
>>2916140Why? Tigers are strictly no contact at zoos and the tiger just did what tigers do. It isn't the same when it's a wild animal and you need to be worried about it seeing humans as prey and going into populated areas.It's looking increasingly like the guy thought he could do a Chris Pratt in Jurassic World rather than him being heavily autistic.
Say his name!
Any news on how it happened?Too fat or mechanical failure?Also why do some articles write it happened in July already? Where can we find the updates?
>>2916145We're probably not going to get trustworrthy updates until a preliminary inspection.Mechanical failure would be a first as these things are supposed to be massively redundant (unless the restrain itself failed rather than the locking but that's unheard of). Coasters aren't supposed to be able to go out with restraints "3 clicks" unlocked but six flags are known for shit workers and this is one of the oldest coasters with those kinds of restraints so it's possible it let them ignore flashing lights or there was an engineer override in place because they were too lazy to deal with some false positives.Only things we know are>Big guy>completely fell out, hitting other riders>Restraints open when back to the station>so far no other closures for that ride/restraint type which steers away from it being a critical mechanical failure which would result in the manufacturer sending out a notice.Unconfirmed>clicking noises from his seat leaving the station, possibly indicating restraints could have been slipping out of being 'locked', a design flaw like that could explain how the train wasn't blocked from leaving>people on the train tried holding onto him but big guy + shifting gs meant that was never going to happen>people saying there were lights indicating the seat wasn't fassened (VERY unconfirmed, seems bullshit, there are thoosies who would look at things like that but the chances are miniscule)
>>2916148see >>2916094The restraint is completely open/unlocked during the rightThis should be technically impossible. A train can not dispatch with an unlocked restraint, even with 'override'So this is the first time ever a restraint has failed B&M is known for their bad build quality. Only thing to do is shut down all B&M coasters world-wide until they have been fixed.
>>2916151It looks like it's unlocked, but I don't think you can really tell from that picture if it's fully unlocked, or if it only went down a few clicks. It could be like some of the other accidents like this where the restraints didn't work with the guy's body type, but the sensors read it as locked.
>>2916153Bro that shit is like fully forward, aint no way that restraint was like that when the train dispatched it would literally not be possible to send a train from the station when the restraint is in a full open, or almost full open position.The impossible has happened.Shut down all B&M's.
There's no way a train can leave the station when the restraint is in this position.Guy is a fat fuck, but this is probably mechanical failure which should not happen.
>Damn! That shit is whack!
Serious question You are on this train while this happenedWould you ever ride a coaster again?
>>2916160Depends on WHY it happened.>Too fat?>Mechanical failure?If it's mechanical failure, I want to see proof that it wont happen again.If the guy was too fat, I don't give a fuck and just hope it doesn't ruin my appetite
>>2916160lbr the small possibility of death is part of the appealSmiler was more attractive to me after its incident, not less.
>>2916162>small possibility of deathliterally like 1000x more chance you die on your way to the theme park in the car instead of at the actual theme parksame with airplanes this shit doesn't make any sense, most fringe theme park death ever
>>2916095Only maintenance has the keys to do that and there's no way they'd put the ride in maintenance mode for the operations crew. That is a huge breach of their rules and mechanics know that would open them up to legal liability.>>2916148>Restraints open when back to the stationWe only "know" that because people have said that. Not proven yet.
>>2916163I'm not talking about statistics, I'm talking about the physical sensation of sitting on a coaster. Your body is screaming at you that you are in a dangerous situation and death is imminent. The knowledge that someone has actually died on said coaster just adds to the "thrill" factor.
>>2916164>Not proven yet.see >>2916155
>>2916155Of note is that the restraint is at greater than 90' which means it's incapable of keeping the rider in the seat when they bump up on the hills.
>>2916166>>2916167Well we can't tell from that angle exactly what's going on with the restraint. More information is needed
>>2916167>>2916169Bro it's clear as fucking fuck, that restraint doesn't do shit. The guy is fat but not morbidly obese. The restraint has failed, Which should not happen.Europa Park and Port Adventura re-opened their B&M Hypers.So right now the best guess is that Six Flags over Georgia did not do proper maintenance and there was mechanical failure
>>2916160I'd not doubt the safety. Whether or not I'd be traumatised and deal with flashbacks is a whole different matter.
>>2916171I mean it might maybe would kinda ruin the magical theme park vibe for the next few visitsThen again maybe in the compensation is like unlimited access pass for all six flags parks world wide forever
>>2916172Isn't that just $300 x 60 years (this is being generous since I doubt 80yo's want to ride coasters)? It's not exactly a jackpot. Maybe if they add on a meal plan...
>>2916170B&M would absolutely tell everyone to close the coasters if it was mechanical failure of any kind. You could not prove conclusively that it was down to maintenence in a single day. They're not Pinfari and their clients aren't family run funfairs.
>>2916170>Bro it's clear as fucking fuckNo, it's one picture and the exact position of the restraint can't be determined from it, let alone determining what the position of it was when it left the station. Unhelpful speculation
>>2916175What we know is he was falling off at the on-ride photo which is near the final brake run so for most of the ride he was fit in perfectly fine
>>2916173Just a part so you would also get money>>2916174>B&M would absolutely tell everyone to close the coasters if it was mechanical failure of any kindFair point. But are B&M Hypers in other American parks still open? Because the two in Europe are open. >>2916175The picture part is at the end of the ride. If the restraint is open like that 90 degrees vertically up in the air it's safe to say it is in a more open position compared to upon dispatch, because a train cannot dispatch when the restraint it still pointing straight to the sky
>>2916176The park, the manufacturer, the insurance company, the state inspectors, other investigators, and the public are all looking for someone to blame and we don't even know a lot of basic details yet let alone the technical ones>If the restraint is open like that 90 degrees vertically up in the airWe don't know the position it's actually in though. We can speculate and guess, but we don't really know anything about its position or mechanical condition based on photos yet
>>2916179idk why you keep saying that we can't tell anything from the photosIs the photo shot at an ideal angle? No.But can us underwater basket forum internet sleuths surmise something from this less-than-ideal angle? Yes.
>>2916180>But can us underwater basket forum internet sleuths surmise something from this less-than-ideal angle?You can form conjecture from it, but that's all you can really do
>Hassan Jihad Ibn Kariem, 42, of Atlanta, died following an ejection from a roller coaster at Six Flags Over Georgia.https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/six-flags-over-georgia-death-victim-ejected-from-ride-identified
>>2916182>>2916179Bro everybody that knows BASIC SHIT about roller coasters can tell that restraint is not supposed to look like that at that part of the rideEven though I like blaming burgers for being fat fucks I honestly don't think the guy was too fat it looks like shit was actually broken so now the question remains WHY THE FUCK could a park like Six Flags sent a train out if restraint would do THAT halfway the ride
>>2916183>>Hassan JihadUnfortunate name for an unfortunate man.
>>2916185>Bro everybody that knows BASIC SHIT about roller coastersI do. Other than capturing the moments of his death, those photos don't really give us much useful or reliable information at this point.
why has there been no info about this coming out? surely they have the data of the ride to figure out if it was a mechanical error or a staff one
>>2916189What do you think is happening right now? It's been less than 24 hours since it occurred. Thoosies are restless lol
>>2916189My money is on lawyers.
fat burger here, ridden tons of coasters across the US, never flopped out of the coaster yet. surely its some other reason
>>2916080Tagadas kill people in Europe every few years. Never happens here because we banned them.
>>2916192How fat? Let us judge by pics if it's mechanical failure or not.
>>2916194120 kilos at around 170cm. havent ever been turned away for being too fat
>>2916196that's not really fat
>>2916088>So yes his inability to not shovel food into his disgusting gullet like an addict is the cause of his deathtbf it would have happened in another form within a few years anyway>t. /fit/
do we have any normal photos of this guy? how fat was he? 300-400lbs?
>>2916199Pictures are starting to come out of himHe really is not looking that heavy as being made out https://nypost.com/2026/10/13/us-news/six-flags-georgia-live-updates-after-man-dies-falling-off-goliath-ride/
Told you it was mechanical failure.You fucking burgers with your six flags hired retards for maintenance staff and now someone died on a B&M hyper giving the industry a bad name because you fags were too lazy to do your due diligence Thanks a lot ASSHOLESSincerely,- Theme park and roller coaster fans world wide
>>2916200Yeah he's a bigger guy but not so big that he should've fallen out. Some people are saying that they think he was filming with his phone, drop the phone and lunged to try and grab it, but that's just a rumor for right now so take it with a grain of salt.
>>2916129Stardust was a Latinx.
>>2916200this guy looks 200lbs at most, if thats too fat for RCs than that takes out 70% of americans
>>2916196>weight doesn't begin with "3">fatdyel
>>2916089I forgot that the clamshells were angled out when they were open. The restraint position in the ride photo doesn’t look like this to me, the bar looks more vertical. It might be locked in the first click position. Which shouldn’t have been dispatched, but if there is nothing to stop it the ride ops might have sent it because they’re terrible at this park. Or a sensor was showing green incorrectly, a former Nitro op reported this exact scenario happening once.>>2916200No body shots, he still looks like he’s a big guy. Everybody carries it differently. I’m thinking this is another Texas Giant/Ride of Steel/Icon Park accident
>>2916138I did a sky coaster at Great Escape staffed exclusively by black people. They did well though. The lead sounded foreigny though so she might have been African black not American black.
>>2916200he is literally on oxygen while taking a walk in one video
>>2916211it's always the fat retards
>>2916204No way, he’s at least in the 300s
>>2913930Teenage girl pheromones
>hassan jihad ibn kariem I worked at a warehouse in Douglasville. Quite a few actual Africans in that area. They had flags from countries like Kenya.
>The Atlanta father who tragically fell hundreds of feet to his death Monday from a roller coaster at Six Flags Over GeorgiaNew York Post is full of shit. Goliath only reaches that height at the top of its lift hill.
>>2916219It's the post of course it's shit.
>>2916219He fell 6 million feet
>>2916201Six Flags is a B&M chain. They can’t afford capable staff due to low attendance and revenues (because of B&M). Same reason Merlin is hemorrhaging money.
>>2916183Do you think he gets 72 thoosie virgins in heaven for this?
>>2916223Still better than Intamin
>>2916200Fats are experts at making themselves look less fat than they actually are. Ever used a dating app?
>>2916225Not at making money. B&Ms are very expensive and cause chains to have very low revenues - the worst of both worlds.
>>2916224>he gets to fuck Katie in paradise
>>2916227Intamin is worse
Think the anons saying he isn’t big and barely 200lbs need step on some scales and take a reality check
B&M clamshells have several points of redundancy built in, which obviously makes seatbelts unnecessary, hopefully we don't get them anyway. It's just not possible that they all failed except in the case of negligent maintenance.
>>2916177Makonis operating today and is still the best coaster in Orlando
>>2916163The only rollercoaster that ever made me feel like I was gonna fucking die is Iron Gwazi. There’s a reason it’s consistently rated #1 or in the top 3 rollercoasters in the world
>>2916229How do you figure?
>>2916232It’s only two points of redundancy. I keep hearing that the clamshells aren’t meant to be dispatched after only one click, which raises some questions.
>>2916234For literal, not figurative, death, I’ve only felt this on Phantom’s Revenge, Jack Rabbit (Kennywood), and Wind Chaser, all for the same reason: I loosened my seatbelt (and had like 5 inches of space on Wind Chaser) to a retarded degree. Not sure how close I actually was to dying though. Didn’t feel like that on Gwazi though because the restraints are just too good and tight.
>>2916173> since I doubt 80yo's want to ride coastersI have seen 90+ year old ladies in wheelchairs with oxygen masks ride rollercoasters. Why the park staff let her ride them is beyond me, but they lifted her grey ass up and strapped her into RMC and Vekoma seats and let her rip! Last row too…
>>2916183> Hassan Jihad Ibn Kariem, 42, of AtlantaRIP Splat Kang (Splat be upon him)
>>2916201How can Cedar Point still have the best operations in the entire world, despite now being owned by SF?
It's really sad that this guy looks like he cared a lot about making sure he looked nice, and then he died with his ass crack sticking out of his pants on camera
While we're at this discussion we might as well talk about the coaster itself. I believe it's objectively the best designed B&M hyper in North America (haven't ridden any overseas). It's not my personal favorite - I prefer Apollo's Chariot for nostalgia and the natural setting, Nitro for that view, and Goliath La Ronde for its perfectly profiled airtime hills and no MCBR - but by more objective standards I think it's the best they ever did.What you might consider its weakness - its size - I think is actually its strength. The 175' first drop does result in a slightly slower ride, but only by a few mph. And it does mean less time spent on that drop. But that's where the drawbacks end and the benefits begin. MCBRs are buzzkills and the only way you can not have one is by having a very short ride (Candymonium) or having a shorter first drop (both Goliaths). Goliath has only one trim brake and it has it in a valley, not ascending a hill, which is the high IQ solution. This doesn’t kill the negatives for the back row. Without a MCBR it really rips into those final hills.B&M hypers are often described as forceless compared to the Intamin hypers, but Goliath meets this with a pretty forceful helix. So it really gives you everything, except a massive first drop, but overall I’d say it’s the best design.
>>2916241They don’t. Millennium Force was doing 4 minute dispatches all three days I was there in May.
>>2916243Black panther nigger can take his racism with him to black heaven
>>2916243Is that Darryl McDaniels?
Kek, Magic Mountain trying to avoid any negative PR even though that isn’t even a B&M.
I think he didn't click enough. I think the urban teens don't care about doing their jobs, and he wasn't as secure as he should've been.
>>2916246>car park coasteralways knew it was a wrong'un! Knock it down!
>>2916253B&M should have nigger proofed their operations. There’s a reason this has never happened before
>>2916254Um technically you can’t park anywhere this coaster goes.
>>2916253>>2916256There's no way a black gentleman could tamper with automated lap bar safety technology
>>2916256how does one do that in Atlanta?
>>2916259With great difficulty. Their mayor is literally a black power bottom
only a matter of time until one of you retards thirsting for airtime gets yourself killed and ruins it for everyone
>>2916236>It’s only two points of redundancy.It has at least 4 ratcheting pawls in there, if it's like other B&Ms 2 are offset from the other 2 but you still have 4 individual pawls in there each of which can secure a rider>>2916239>Why the park staff let her ride them is beyond meThey have to for a lot of medical conditions, otherwise it could cause legal problems. That's why every ride has a big warning sign next to its entrance discouraging people with high blood pressure and pregnancy etc. not to board, attendants can remind them of the warning, but ultimately the park can't deny them boarding. Old people ride coasters all the time without problems though.>>2916246>MCBRs are buzzkills and the only way you can not have one is by having a very short ride (Candymonium) or having a shorter first drop (both Goliaths).B&M solved this with their gigas. The intermediate block brakes just got moved all the way to the end of the ride, then they let you fly through those before hitting the 'real' brakes - to get the train in and out of the "mid course" brakes asap for the following train. With the lift speed and cycle time you still get the advantage of that additional brake without it actually being placed midway through the ride. I agree that those are a buzzkill and normally after going through them I'm like "Ok the good part of the ride is over"
Well... that's not good
>>2916246What is MCBR?
>>2916234Velocicoasters roll over the water makes me feel like im gonna die every single time.
>>2916265Mid-course break run
>>2916262>only a matter of time until one of you retards thirsting for airtime gets yourself killed and ruins it for everyoneThis happened back in 2000 or 2001 at Holiday World during some ACE event. Prior to that it was a widespread practice for enthusiasts to avoid being stapled and leave the lapbar up as high as possible, sometimes just tricking the operators with various clothing. Anyway it was at night on the Raven and some enthusiast chick had hers way up, got thrown out of the ride and died. One or two of the more well-known enthusiasts of that time got called out for recording videos of themselves standing up while riding and brazenly leaving restraints too far up.Industry started directly warning enthusiasts that they have to uphold their end of the deal by using the restraint the way it's designed to or there would be no more special events for enthusiasts. The buckaroo days of riding with lap bars nearly all the way up during coasterthons was over.>>2916264Technical faults like that happen all the time, no reason to presume it's indicative of what happened yesterday.
>>2916267>break run*brake run
>>2916268over the shoulder is coming back whether we like it or not.
>>2916268Yeah, I think Holiday World was advertising "one-click rides" specifically. And honestly, it was safe until it wasn't. People were saying the girl who died was basically standing up during the first drop. If she hadn't gotten too ambitious, and just held on while sitting, she probably would've been fine.
>>2916266Yeah, it’s amazing. To me it’s always going to seem like a souped up Cheetah Hunt but with fake animals instead of real. Maybe I’m a Triceratops encounter purist, but I feel like Universal just gave up when it comes to theming
>>2916270No it's not, stop overreacting like a woman would
what are the chances saudi six flags gets blown up?
>>2916270This. We got too cocky bros
the best way to sort this is make every rider stand on a scale and height verified before riding. you MUST have a healthy BMI or no ride. I know it may tank the industry in USA but safety first
wouldnt all this shit be solved with having a belt attached to the restraint and the seat?
>>2916273You’re retarded. That black panther niggers family is going to sue SF for so much money it’s going to make the X2 people shit their pants. They’re black and this will be made racial. Just watch
>>2916277Yes.
>>2916271Yep a lot of it was permitted by operators and parks because nothing had gone wrong until then. It was bound to happen sooner or later, a lot of people were getting carried away>>2916278Happened on the New Texas Giant in 2013 and that coaster is still operating with lapbars. Worst that's going to happen is they'll put in seat belts somewhere
>>2916279so was this just not done as a cost cutting thing? dont other coasters like Diamondback and Orion have belts like that already?
>>2916281The manufacturer offers the option and the company chooses what they want when they order the ride. For B&M, those belts aren't for redundancy, they're indicators that the restraint is down far enough. If the belt can't get buckled, it's not down far enough and the ride shouldn't be dispatched.
>>2916282Manual redundancy is huge. Don’t discount it
>>2916281The seatbelts make the ride less fun and they shouldn't be necessary. They also slow down dispatches because the operators have an extra thing to check, thus making the line longer.
>>2916281Ive heard seat belts are there on certain coasters as a psychological thing - to give peace of mind
Cedar Fair is probably regretting the Six Flags merger as of late huh?
>>2916283The redundancy is built into the restraint mechanism itself
>>2916233Mako is actually closed because of this. The hypers outside the US are open though
>>2916288>The hypers in countries with low black population are open thoughfixed
>>2916246The people on the ride said he started to “levitate” and was thrown out and floated up and down 3 times. I wonder if that was the 3 bunny hills?
a restraint doesnt just 'pop' opendo they have cameras on the platform to see what happened?
>>2916263I heard it was 2. If it’s 4 then what the fuck? How do all 4 fail at once?
>>2916286From what I’ve heard, there is no Cedar Fair, almost all the execs and full time employees from both legacy companies and the parks themselves either left or were let go. The last straw was this move “back” to Arlington and the company is full of outsiders who don’t have amusement/theme park experience. The board has been changed up too. There is just a company called Six Flags running these parks and they suck. My only hope is that there are still some remaining good people and they’ll try to spin off the good parks (the legacy CF parks) into a different company because this was not a merger of equals. CF parks weren’t perfect but every single SF park is pure garbage in comparison.
>>2916276>the best way to sort this is make every rider stand on a scale and height verified before ridingFuck just doing it to get on a ride, we need it to enter the parkWeight them before entering the park in the security line. Over 250 pounds = not allowed to enter the park
>>2916265It’s that flat bit of track with pretty heavy brakes halfway through a lot of coasters.
>>2916272The statues are so bad I can believe everyone talks about how good the theming is. There’s no way they couldn’t have done any better than that… right?
>>2916276I consider obesity to be easily the biggest problem in this country full stop. Just check the number of deaths annually, it’s way more than police brutality or white supremacy or murder or whatever shit you care about. So I’m into fat rejection, the opposite of fat acceptance, and I love this idea. There have been plenty of fats that have been inspired to lose weight after doing the walk of shame. Let’s crank that up. Make obesity unbearable.
>>2916291>do they have cameras on the platform to see what happened?They might, but I think multiple cameras in the station that record boarding riders is probably going to become standard equipment for new rides (and will happen regardless of this incident). Some rides might already have stuff like that in use. I don't mean just a camera or two that records the entire loading dock, I mean a system with many cameras aimed at the restraints (say, 1 camera per row) that captures and stores boarding information and will combine it with facial recognition so the park can go back and look at all of that information after an incident. Obviously they'd look at the restraint prior to the incident, but also look at what the rider was doing while boarding other rides in the park. If the park could build an argument that the rider was habitually leaving the restraint too high (just an example), it could reduce their damages in court.>>2916292Good explanation here about the pawls and seatbelts (skip to about 12:00 for B&M specific info) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikrq045k5CM
>>2916290Sounds right.
>>2916293I checked their 7 chief officers today. Only 2 ever worked for Cedar Fair - accounting a procurement. “Cedar Fair runs Six Flags” is cope from Ohio residents over the fact that their parks belong to the brokest park chain on earth.
>>2916298>>2916291I'd imagine every major coaster has CCTV that gets a view of every seat in the station. The benefit in lawsuits, security and staff training completely outweigh a few hundred dollars extra spent cameras
>>2916290>he started to levitatewhat the fuck
>>2916309>average sizefor an American this could be anywhere upto 400lbs>ran marathonsthe average fat fuck thoosie will cover the distance of a half marathon easy in one day at disney
>>2916297Thoughts on GLP and the like to cure obesity?
>>2916311Floater time is zero or near zero g, that makes you float in place relative to the coaster, restraints stopping you from getting away from the seats. Ejector is negative gs, you'd rise away from the seats without the restraints.Some thoosies can sometimes get a kick out of doing well designed family coasters sitting at the back because they occasionally get pops of airtime but only have very loose lap restraints (that can have a big gap if you're next to a larger person). Big Thunder Mountain in Disneyland Paris has a splashdown dip like this that's great at the back.
>our coasters are safe as long as the low paid teenage ghetto dwellers in west atlanta do everything rightThey're going out of business. Press S to spit.
>>2916315I think it's great. Whatever works. Obviously I'd prefer better eating habits and exercising but I'll take this.
>>2916297> I consider obesity to be easily the biggest problem in this country full stop. Non detected
>>2916318What’s your /fit/ progress. My insurance says $250 a month. Is it worth it?
>>2916320$250/month to do what?
>>2916317I think it’s legitimately best if SF does file Ch 11 bc then maybe some billionaire or corporation can save them and turn them into something other than nigger daycare. Where is MGM
>>2916321That’s how much it costs for shots even with insurance
>>2916318vittorio, is that you?
>>2916303>I'd imagine every major coaster has CCTV that gets a view of every seat in the station.Some do, but I'd wager that most of those aren't good views of the individual riders, it's like one camera near the front of the station that's mostly intended for use by park security. What I'm proposing is much more intensive, one camera for every 1 or 2 seats and retaining that recorded data for an indefinite period (until the statue of limitations for claims runs out most likely). We may start seeing coasters that have on-board full-time audio/video recording just for dealing with the aftermath of an incident.
>>2916323Oh I can’t tell you that. I’ve never been a fat. But I’ve heard good things and it’s hard for me to imagine it’s worse than continued obesity.
>>2916320I did it, it works really well, ran out of money and had to stop which was a bitch. You genuinely don't feel like eating. You don't feel ill, you don't feel stuffed, you just don't have a drive to eat and when you do eat, you're feeling full after the first few bites.Two downsides:If you really enjoy eating, not wanting to eat leaves a bit of a gap in your life. You change your pattern of eating to quality not quantity though and get past this.Worst constipation I've ever had (only one really bad incident of it mind). Genuine "no way I'm passing this concrete block, I'm going to have to dig it out in pieces".
>>2916326I’ve never been an actual fat either but I use the shots to cut. It def helps and will stop you from drinking too much too
Useful write up https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/on-the-strange-accident-at-six-flags-over-georgia/
>>2916322Whatever needs to happen to remove at least Cedar Point, Knott’s and Kings Island from the chain. Probably Canada’s Wonderland, Carowinds, and Kings Dominion too and you might as well throw in Dorney and Schliterbahn to undo what’s left of the merger that should have never happened. Six Flags is a garbage brand with a name that refers to flags flown over the state of Texas. Name recognition was irrelevant when your name is associated with low quality and everybody refers to any of your parks as if it is the one “Six Flags” because they have no actual park identities.
>>2916288Checked. Kinda a stretch to compare SeaWorld Orlando to a fucking six flags though
>>2916330Sell Fiesta Texas to Herschend while you're at it
Hire whoever the fuck was in charge of Cedar Fair from 1995-2010. Split these companies back up and have some competition in the US Coaster scene again.
How much money is the family gonna get from this?
>>2916329I know they're not technically rollercoasters but seems a bit remiss to ignore some of the drop tower incidentsI'm still hovering towards a "Engineer here, we've been having issues with the sensors all day, I'll just leave the override on, make sure you press down for 3 clicks for everyone". If that is the case, I could see either a dual key setup or forced logging and recording for overrides in the future.
>>2916336Remains to be seen if there was victim misadventure involved but millions as a starting point. Icon Park's drop tower technically had a judgement of $300m against them but the company that made it simply shut up shop and left the US. Settlements are preferable because otherwise it'll mean a decade in court and the risk the debt gets offloaded to a shell company.
>>2916337The sensors are only part of the safety system in place. They can't tell if the restraint is fully down on the rider, only that it is open or in an "other than open" position. The operators are supposed to verify the restraint is down and locked, same as any coaster, because no sensor technology exists to verify that right now.And it wouldn't be an item maintenance would override because of a faulty sensor - they'd just fix the problem or pull the train out of service and go down to one train until it did get fixed. I don't know if you could even disable such a feature in automatic mode, the program itself is mostly off-limits to technicians and mechanics.
>>2916336Realistically less than $10 million. It's not like winning Powerball
He was a thoosie too. One of us. Does make me wonder if maybe he was trying to avoid getting stapled and flew to close to the sun, but who knows at this point.
>>2916342Nah it will be more than that. The son was on the ride with him and had to watch his dad die.
>>2916343Do you think he posted on /tpg/?
>>2916327I don’t even like eating so that sounds awesome to me. But I’m 15% bf only interested in going down to 9%.
>>2916344This guy died in 1986. You fingered the wrong nigger
>>2916346A lot less Katieposting since Saturday I'll just say that
>>2916343None of the pictures of him make him look obese, he's a big guy but not especially. I know some restraints punish people with unusual body length ratios (Gringotts) but these seem the more lax restraints.Something fucked up has happened here.
>>2916330KD is a good park but nobody goes there so it should be sold too. >Six Flags is a garbage brandIt must have some name equity or Cedar Fair wouldn’t have accepted it and the Saudis wouldn’t have borrowed it. Don’t ask me how though.>that refers to flags flown over the state of TexasOne of these is the CSA flag lmao.>Name recognition was irrelevant when your name is associated with low quality and everybody refers to any of your parks as if it is the one “Six Flags” because they have no actual park identities.Fiesta Texas would have an identity without Six Flags. Maybe the only one.
>>2916354anyone who think this guy is big enough to fuck with coaster restraints is a retard.
>>2916338>Icon Park's drop tower technically had a judgement of $300m against them but the company that made it simply shut up shop and left the USDid the family get any money?
>>2916340It’s designed to be safe even if it’s in the highest non-open position. And if anyone flies out because of the restraint being too high it wouldn’t be this fat fuck. His restraint was open.
>>2916354>None of the pictures of him make him look obeseburger moment
>>2916355Six Flags New England is the second oldest amusement park in America, and would have an identity if it hadn't been turned into a generic carnival with Batman.
>>2916357They got the settlement from the park itself. I'd guess it was in the low millions if they were still pursing the manufacturer>>2916359Obese is a classification anon at the high end, it's not just an alternative way of saying overweight. He's not obese.
>>2916361>He's not obeseYou believe he’s less than 25% body fat?
>>2916356Maybe not but he’s still a big guy. I’d put him around a BMI of 38. I don’t know what the limits of the clamshells are, I’ve seen some big people ride Mako and Fury and Diamondback but it depends on how they carry it.Anyways, I still don’t think catastrophic failure of the restraints is likely here. If it is, these style restraints are not as redundant and safe and thoosies have been claiming for decades. Even if shoddy maintenance is to blame (and we don’t know anything). We’ve all probably seen seats that are blocked off with bags over them and what not. Is it possible the train was dispatched with an unlocked restraint and only at the end was he ejected? Probably not, that helix would have tossed him earlier if that was the case. Or the second hill
>>2916361Obese means you have a BMI of 30 or higher. A BMI of 30 is somebody who is 5’ 11 and 215lbs or mores more if you’re taller and even less if you’re shorter. Somebody 5’ 7” “only” needs to weight 192lbs to be obese. That guy is absolutely obese. But obese people can still ride many coasters (depending on which end of the obesity range they’re on)
>>2916365Yes? Look at his arms and neck, that's where obesity really shows, he's stocky but wears baggy clothing which makes him look bigger
>>2916369Body fat % is more accurate since it distinguishes between different sources of weight. 25% body fat is obese in men.
>>2916370>look at his arms and neck>posts pic with no arms or neck visible
>>2916359Are Europeans this retarded to not know basic definitions?Actually yes they are.
>>2916372Yes but this guy is not fit or a body builder. Also it’s gay to post pics of shirtless muscle dudes, even having that on your drive is gay
>>2916375They are but I’m not European. It’s just that only burgers could consider this man >>2916144 and his no less than 42” waist not obese.
>>2916376I just saved it from google
>>2916358>It’s designed to be safe even if it’s in the highest non-open position.There's a minimum pull travel to get all pawls engaged on B&Ms. They arrange them in 2 sets of 2 offset so you need to hear 4 clicks to know all 4 pawls are engaged. On B&M rides with seatbelts, that's all the belt does, provide an indicator that all 4 pawls have traveled far enough to lock on to the ratchet:https://youtu.be/ikrq045k5CM?si=hcpri0tkC-4X7yFU&t=722
>>2916380And there’s no device that counts the number of clicks? If not then B&M are confirmed retards for using these at all. Of course you’re only going to get some of the clicks sometimes. Nice foresight you dipshits.
>>2916382Nope you're the first person to ever consider that possibility. If only B&M had hired you after seeing your NoLimits designs, they wouldn't be in this position now.
>>2916051Except you can't. Whatever failsafe you think you have will wear out too.>>2916138That rules out like every regional park in USA
Eyewitness account so could have reliability issues but they claim to have sat near the man and his restraint was making some strange clicking noises. They claimed the ride operators fixated and played around with it before dispatch. If true, there was a restraint issue. If there was a restraint issue, none of the hypers are going to be in operation any time soon even if it turns out to be maintenance negligence.
>>2916353kek
Simply put I will never be trusting a ride or coaster in which my life is dependent on the restraints keeping me in my seat. The only rides I will get on are rides where restraints are basically optional. This essentially rules out inversions.
>>2916385Being non-retarded would have sufficed, or at least hiring non-retards.
>>2916353Let me see if she has anything to say on this tragedy.
>>2916398Umm… Katie… sweetheart… read the room.
Bakunawa will claim a life its opening week.
https://nypost.com/2026/10/13/us-news/six-flags-goliath-roller-coaster-safety-concerns-before-hassan-kariems-death/?fbclid=IwdGRleAU7m2FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBwZG9mBWZkaWQWUQMTIGPhhD-gt2gtPy8OOPPopqBjKnNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR6a5tuBBqqQU-S-7PPRPFaPJHuc5cdE_TGs4_BsqQIAHTwYwBpgWZ4JLNf1Zw_aem_V15dNQwn6wVB0VtQNkMTLQ
>>2916409uh oh
>>2916409This is the story from >>2916392 except it’s not the guy who fell out’s restraint. It was the rider telling the story. Having restraints unlock and relock isn’t unusual. I don’t know about B&Ms though. Some coasters it’s just a row they have to release and others it’s the whole train. It’s not unusual if they’re releasing it on purpose and then they have to check everything again.
>>2916409I can't take this particularly as evidence solely because normalfags who only call it Six Flags would have zero idea that one of these restraints would sound off or what sounds non-off
>>2916409Why do they not call him Hassan Jihad for short?
>>2916417people are retarded. tatsu does this thing where the ride op calls out some numbers and they go and recheck those restraints because the sensors didn't get cleared or something. if there was ever an accident, i'm sure that practice would be pointed by idiots.
>>2916409>Riders on a Six Flags Over Georgia roller coaster where a teacher plunged to his death heard a “weird clicking,” and staff checked their restraints “multiple times” before the disaster, witnesses said.>“It would unlock and lock, unlock and lock. It kept clicking like it was unlocking and re-locking,” a woman who was in the car told WSB-TV, after watching 42-year-old Hassan Jihad Ibn Kariem fly out from his seat on the Goliath roller coaster on Monday.This could have been them trying to get him to fit.
>>2916410Stinky
>>2916425It's like >>2916419 said these are just random people ("the GP" as thoosies say) who don't know what sounds are normal and what sounds aren't. Lol enthusiasts will talk about how stupid the GP is and then turn around and believe every word out of their mouths
If Ben Crump is on the case, it leads me to believe Six Flags did nothing wrong
>>2916419These people claimed to be thoosies though.
If you had to die on a coaster, which would you want it to be?
Made a poll to see what /rcg/ is thinking https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2QmmkZ0
>Disney Imagination>Sailing from Toyko>Ariel on the stern It is over for FigmentcelsAlso Disney Cruises look so soulless
>>2916434>tried to turn a man's suicide into "muh modern day KKK lynching" and ghosted the family when it was revealed to be a suicide>tried to defend Karmelo Anthony, a murderer who couldn't get over his ex-girlfriend and stabbed a random guy for no reason, and lost >recently grifted off a pair of grieving parents who had lost their son, implied the son's friends were somehow involved in his death, and has continued to push a Alex Jones Sandy Hook-tier conspiracy theory about Jackson County MS covering up a murder AFTER the grand jury had already made their decision>Now he's going to try to spin this tragedy into something along the lines of "the Six Flags ride operators targeted this man specifically and broke his restraints because something something about the past of the American South something something the KKK runs Cedar Fair" because he can't fucking help himselfPiece of shit.
Kek, just saw a video from someone who went to Six Flags Over Georgia last week. Said that at one point he was sitting in the station while the employees argued over whose lunch break it was. Also said no one was making sure that everyone's legs were secured for Superman, and he said on occasions no one checked his restraint before sending it out. Avoid black majority amusement parks at all costs.
>>2916434nah its just Ben Crump has finally found his unicorn case where he will actually win and disappear off into the sunset with his millions
>>2916437Gotta be maintenance
>>2916464Happened to me at the shift change at Superman. I just sat in the train for 10 minutes while they did whatever. I used fast lane but I felt really bad for all the GP sitting outside in the sun (this was July) waiting for the only operating train to dispatch. The line was so long.
Confirmed: Mechanical failureClose down all B&M's
>>2916399I feel bad for her because she just said she's going to Carowinds and now Fury and Thunder Striker will be closed for her.
>>2916512Confirmed: Underpants Gnomes Your little peen is now visible to everybody and they’re laughing at you
China doesn't have this problem with coasters
Nigga was on some Final Destination shit
>>2916534/rcg/ said Chinese people die all the time on coasters, it just doesn’t make the news.
>>2916534This is because China takes an interesting approach to coasters. They require coasters can only stand for 20 year before a coaster is retracked or demolished So Goliath would have been redone or demolished before this even happened
>>2916552I did see someone on YouTube say that those bunny hills at the end have developed some serious potholes that gave them a real jolt when they rode recently.
>>2916556>those bunny hills at the end have developed some serious potholesThat's not how steel coasters work
Look at it this way lads. Your dogshit park franchise is going to finally get included in the next /rcg/ news update
>>2916585It was included in the last one. Parking lot coaster fans don’t read so they didn’t notice.
>>2916585I wish the disney flora guy would give more updates. sovl/10 iykyk
>>2916588You should include news from parks that aren't Disney or Universal.
>2916591Never beating the can’t read allegations LMAO
>>2916592This is /tpg/ and /rcg/, but you only post news from Disney and Universal when there are dozens and dozens of other parks that should be included too.
>>2916593the problem is it all blends into one e.g. Six Flags Over Shitsville has announced a dive coaster but this one will turn RIGHT out of the station instead of left
>>2916598>He thinks every park that's not Disney or Universal is Six FlagsThat's the problem
>>291659990% of parks in the US are Six Flags since the Cedar Fair merger. Cedar Point is a Six Flags park.
>>2916598That’s just the local autist, you can ignore him. Every general has one.
>>2916601That's ok because there are lots of parks around the world, but you only mention any of them if they are Disney or Universal
I swear he’s the only one I’ve ever heard even mention Dinoland, let alone praise it as a theming masterpiece. I don’t remember anything about it from my last AK visit other than the Dinosaur ride. Is he right?
>>2916610wasnt it called Dinoland USA?also disney theming masterpiece is not stickers on a carnival spinning coaster
>cracks have been found in the welding of that specific restraint the victim was usingjust how fucked is six flags? you cant get away with lax inspections.
>>2916617How do you know it was due to lax inspections?
>>2916622Just trust his unsourced claim broAlso please ignore that there the restraints only used bolted elements and it makes no sense for something that'll need regular taking apart for maintenence to use welding
>>2916617Allow me to explain how fucked Six Flags is.2024: annual loss of $231 million2025: annual loss of $1.6 billion2026: Q1 and Q2 combined losses of $472 millionCurrent debt load: $5 billionAnnual revenue: approximately $3 billionBasically, they are broke as FUCK, and that was true BEFORE any obese nogs were thrown out of their rides.Now how you get out of a hole like this, I have no idea, but I would expect continued sell-offs if any properties that aren’t printing money at a minimum, and probably more drastic shit.
>>2916625The restraint bar does have welds on it, and those bars are probably disassembled, cleaned, and sent off at least annually for NDT on the welds and to look at the tube itself
>>2916628>debt $5billion>revenue $3billion>avg loss $1b/yrits bad but not fucked. Plus they'll have public indemnity insurance. Merlin are in a worse position
>>2916628Too bad Herschend just bought a bunch of parks. I don't know how much money they have left to buy some of these properties. I think they'd do a good job. Really, I think they'd be the best owners for Six Flags Over Georgia because they'd be willing to spend the extra money to hire some decent employees.
>>2916628Maybe Skydance is looking to expand into theme park business? Friendly reminder Paramount used to have a couple theme parks.
The no-fun league is coming after us
>>2916629>>2916625>>2916622Guessing this is a result of the Ryan the Ride Mechanic video. I think he's spitballing slightly looking for the only point of failure . I'm not sure the welds he poiints out take that much load and they're really chunky heavy duty welds that would have to fail in multiple spots. This failing without it being a worldwide shut it down on B&Ms seems unlikelyWould a simpler point of failure be a faulty restraint sensor that gave the green light without the 3 clicks?
>>2916637>Friendly reminder Paramount used to have a couple theme parks.Paramount Parks were better than Cedar Fair before CF bought them
>>2916638These kinds of takes are funny. They're thrill rides, not comfort blanket rides. Besides which people also hate shoulder restraints for the head banging or neck strain.It's weird how easy the misandrist/self hate squad come out for everything. It's probably only a matter of time before "coaster bros" get the blame.
>>29166402004 was a long time ago man.
>>2916640I went to Great America when it was paramount.Remember the James bond simulator with the body cocoon thing that you feel your going to fall out of (think a few parks had these, American Adventure had one with a Alien ride, not sure any have survived). Also remember a wooden beam that was 100% covered by gum in the queue for the rapids.
>>2916639I don't know the source of the problem and don't want to jump to conclusions but it is true that many components get taken apart, cleaned, inspected, and sent out for NDT each off-season, and usually it's included checking welded connections. I have my doubts Six Flags would scrimp on that stuff regardless of how bad their parks seem to us.>>2916642Yeah it was. Guess I'm an old head now. I got to go on Top Gun when they had all the rights to it, the name, music, it was awesome and still is my favorite invert
>>2916644I can dimly remember the original Top Gun coaster you're speaking of, but I don't think I was tall enough to ride it then.
>>2916638Idiot subhuman GP found a video of someone trying to squeeze out one more click on Goliath's lap bar and thinks they were about to die
>>2916645It was the one at Carowinds. I don't know if they still do it but the tunnel used to have fog in it and for a moment you really couldn't see anything, really good theming element
>>2916635Explain to non-finance bro how that isn’t fucked? Unless you’re not counting selling off a shitload of parks as fucked.
>>2916641Considering he was a thoosie I wonder if he was trying to use his fat stomach to have the bar as high as possible and that’s what happened. I’m not a fat so I don’t know if that’s something they can do with their surplus flesh.
>>2916675Does not explain why the safety bar is completely open.
I wonder if the company will finally back off using the same handful of names over and over? Cedar Fair was doing the same thing before the merger. Like an average person hearing "Somebody died on Goliath and Six Flags," it could apply to half a dozen SF parks instead of just one if they were uniquely named.>>2916674Not himI know sometime in the last few years SF has purchased both the Dallas and Atlanta parks outright for hundreds of millions of dollars each. Prior to that, they were owned by a group of investors and operated by Six Flags. Although they were expensive purchases, they were one-time buys so it might make some of that seem worse than it is. Thoosies who think X2 and Goliath are going to cost SF billions of dollars are mistaken.
>>2916676It’s not though. The angle only looks a little higher than that of the restraint of the other fat sitting on the other side of the same row >>2916155 Pic related is what fully open looks like.If it turns out it was his fault, I think there may have be a clue in the fact that it was a thoosie. Thoosies are a minority of ridership, possibly a small minority, so if someone was going to get ejected riding normally, it was unlikely to be a thoosie. It should have been even less likely considering a thoosie would be more likely to know if something was wrong with the restraint… except for one thing - a thoosie would also be more likely to use creative ways to get more space with the restraint.
i always sit on my tippy toes to get more room between the restraints and my knees starting to question if this is smart if people are flying out only ride it kind of felt scary on for a second was pantheon
>>2916679I think his restraint was locked in the ride photo position out of the station and he made it through most of the ride until the helix forced him sideways. The helix is pretty unique to this particular ride. This supports the eyewitness accounts that he was “levitating” sideways (the helix) flew up and down three times (the final three bunny hills) and then was ejected during the final turn (partially caught on photo). I don’t think it was maintenance negligence or ride operator negligence and I don’t think the restraint failed because it’s not in the fully open position in the photo. As to why it would be allowed to dispatch in an unsafe position, it wouldn’t be the first time apparently Nitro had a sensor fault like that before. Also he’s definitely a big obese guy and everybody saying “he’s not that big” and “not obese” has a really warped perspective on what a normal body type is
>>2916679Ok you semantic retard. Refer to the guy you quoted. The restraint either never clicked in to an acceptable level or outright catastrophically failed. There is no "I am a thoosie and I am going to sneak this restraint out of the station a little loose" to this extent. Ops would have had to override the sensor to dispatch, and you guys joke but I don't think they are THAT negligent.>angle only looks a little higher than that of the restraint of the other fat sitting on the other side of the same rowNot even remotely fucking close. You can find footage of other fatties (picrel even fatter than the victim) riding and the restraint never ever allows for nearly that much wiggle room.
>>2916684Different angle. I don’t think it looks that far off and I’m really surprised that’s a “safe” position considering the clamshell doesn’t go past the “arm rest” part of the seat.
>>2916686You're just blind then
What information can an individual seat harness sensor really tell you?> - It usually does not measure the position of the harness - only that it is fully unlocked, or in an "other than unlocked" position (with rare exceptions like B&M flyers and other niche rides that have way more sensors on the trains)> - The sensor cannot determine if the restraint is fully engaged against the rider or not> - The sensor cannot establish whether a seat has someone in it or not> - The sensor cannot determine if the restraint pawls are actually latched, only that the mechanical component or flag either is or isn't being detected by its proximity sensor. In other words, the computer doesn't know if the locking pawls are on their ratchet teeth or not, but it is presumed they are because the restraint moved past a certain position and the proximity limit is no longer sensing its flag. If none of the pawls latched, the harness, which is sprung, would move into the 'full unlocked" position and re-flag its sensor, indicated an unlocked restraintAnyone got anything else about them to know?
>>2915971Since this happened towards the end of the ride, do you think if it was a slightly lighter person, the other riders could have grabbed onto him and at least kept him from falling down to the pavement? Or was he already dead by the time he was bouncing around?
>>2916689It would be very difficult if not impossible to hold on to somebody lighter during those moments of Gs. Being that he’s head first he might have already been dead if he slammed his head into it
>>2916690Do bunny hills have that much weightlessness?
If it's true that he died just trying to give himself more airtime, I'll feel better, because that's avoidable and I can explain to my mom that it simply won't happen to me, because she texted me the next day when she saw it.
I don't think you guys realize how fat friendly B&M hypers are. watch this guy ride. he films himself in the test seat and his nervous wait to see if they are going to let him ride.https://youtu.be/O3RyCb7toxE?si=D74dm58mo3TGR8Xe&t=543if this guy can ride safely then no way was this other guy's weight a factor.
>>2916696if you don't give yourself more airtime your mother will die in her sleep
>>2916696The idea of some middle-aged lady giving a sigh of relief>thank goodness that's not MY 250lb manchild flying out of his seatbrought a chuckle to the dark cockles of my heart.
>>2916700Well did they let him ride? Regardless of the line there is still a gap. It’s hard to compare different body types because people carry their wait differently. In their thighs, in their gut, and we don’t have a good pic of the guy who died to see these things but he does look like a big guy despite people saying “he’s not that big”. Also when you sit down with one of these restraints sit makes a gelatinous muffin top like the guy in the video. I would not want to sit next to this guy in the video because of the spillover
>>2916710>he does look like a big guy despite people saying “he’s not that big”Stop with this. It's already been demonstrated that fatter people rode it safely and that their restraints weren't nearly as open as that in the Goliath incident.
>>2916234Having just come home from Busch Gardens today, I gotta say Iron Gwazi FUCKS. Though I didn't quite feel like dying the same way as >>2916266
>>2916712Can you explain it to someone who will probably never have the chance to ride it? What makes it different from similar coasters?
>>2916711No it hasn’t. We need a ride photo from Goliath from one of these fatties sitting in that same seat position to rule it out for sure. The restraint is definitely not wide open or it would be angled backwards. It could be that it’s open and the forces are causing it to be partially closed but we don’t know that either.On a side note, ai see that Shambhala and Silver Star were both open again today and neither of them have seat belts.
>>2916713I've never been on one of these hybrid types or that much of any pure wooden coasters so I'm kind of at a loss on how it compares to similar coasters. But I was told it's the tallest and fastest of it's kind in North America and I can certainly believe that. It really just doesn't let up on the relentlessness from the first humongous drop and still finds itself harshly inverting long after you'd think there isn't much gas left in the tank.
>>2916717You just saw the fattest motherfucker to ever ride a rollercoaster just barely squeeze into Mako >>2916700 and even then it's visibly 10x more safe and secure than in the Goliath photo. Quit playing retarded.
>>2916717Very happy to see that about the European hypers. Hopefully the ones in America can avoid getting seatbelts too.
>>2916718Neat, thank you for the description. Hope there can be something similar in Europe someday.
>>2916696Lmao. Fly high obese thoosie. Fly high. >t. Was never obese danced with it for a bit. Never again
>>2916700That guy is talking about his weight loss progress and bragging about it >check date 5 years ago >look up latest video Just as fat, if not fatter…
>>2916719Yeah there's no way his weight was the problem. The maintenance theory is possible, and the too much room because he wanted airtime theory is possible.
>>2916691The bunny hills are ejector.
>>2916713The best part of Gwazi IMO is the death roll, officially the barrel roll down drop. It’s not the only BRDD by RMC (Twisted Cyclone, Wind Chaser and Twisted Timbers also have one), but the death roll is different because it’s much bigger and the train is going much faster into it. WC and TT use their BRDD as the first drop, so the train enters them slowly, and they’re half the size of Gwazi. TC enters its BRDD with some speed but it’s also half the size of Gwazi. The death roll might be my single favorite element. POVs don’t do it justice. Gwazi is also the best RMC I know of for lateral airtime. It has many hills that turn you sideways. I found this to be an acquired taste but now I like it over normal airtime. Other than that, it’s one of just three hyper RMCs and its stall is really long.
>>2916720How come Yuros aren’t closing theirs? I’ve heard this made front pages across the continent so their GP are aware.
>>2916724I refuse to watch POVs for rides I haven’t ridden, but its European comp is Zadra, one of the other two RMC hypers (the other is Steel Vengeance). Many people say it’s better than Gwazi. Europe also has a few other RMCs that aren’t rated quite as well but are still loved.
>>2916738I don’t know if I have my physics wrong but I always figured if someone’s getting ejected it would be a skinny person.
>>2916757>I refuse to watch POVs for rides I haven’t ridden,lmao
>>2916761My first impression will always be the ride itself.
>>2916769Holy TRVKEThe reason why B&M never made seatbelts mandatory on these rides is because they reasoned that since a rider could detach it at any point in the ride cycle, it could not be relied upon as a redundant safety device.That's why the B&Ms that do have seatbelts like stand-ups and inverts do not rely on them as a safety back up. They are only indicators so the crew will know the restraint is at its minimum engagement. If the belt won't buckle, the harness isn't down far enough and those pawls aren't all locked in. Those seatbelts are doing the same job as the restraint position sensors on their other coasters. They're only there to make sure the restraint has traveled far enough that all of the pawls in the locking device should be engaged.
>>2916769>nearlyI can think of one obese urban fellow who would still be alive if the fabric had been there.
>>2916771It’s more of a PR question than an engineering question. If the GP demands seatbelts and Six Flags thinks attendance will decline without them, there will be seat belts, regardless of what the engineers say.
>>2916775That's a great point I hadn't consideredOne thing they'll have to weigh is the time belts add to checking restraints, and SF executives have to know how atrocious their operations already are. Probably won't change their manpower budgeting situation though.
>>2916778Yeah its a thinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theaterI can’t imagine seatbelts would slow capacity quite that much. The B&M hyper seatbelts are pretty easy. There’s nothing to tighten like there is with RMC or PTC seatbelts, so they’re easy both to put on and check. And since there are rarely mandatory lockers (Fury being an exception), it’s not like B&M hyper capacity is that great anyway. Mako struggles to hit 700 riders an hour without seatbelts. There’s not much capacity to ruin in the first place.What I’m worried about is seatbelts on other models due to public pressure. Velocicoaster can do 30 second dispatches, that would not be the case with seatbelts. Bakunawa will have bad capacity already, seatbelts are the last thing it needs.
>>2916756Their GP probably aren't as stupid as ours are. Hell even MM's Goliath is closed despite being a completely different model, simply because it shares a name
>>2916783That or they’re too far away. MM’s Goliath is same coaster type, same track (both B and M worked for Giovanola), same color and MM cannot take another bad headline.
>>2916778Atlantis at lotte world has extremely abysmal dispatch times because they do a whole song and dance routine of checking both the seat belt restraint and the lap bar. It almost feels like they arent even looking half the time and are just going through the motions. Hitting fat tourist with the 38 inch waist limit at the loading platform after waiting an hour in the sun must bring some kind of joy to the workers.
no one has EVER died in the only TRUE and HONEST theme park land in the ENTIRE industry
>>2916756We dont have fat people
>>2916769I remember Steeplechase in the 90s where you barely had a seat (basically on a carousel horse with a bit of a saddle) and just a very loose, worn seatbelt. You felt you had to hold on or you'd falloffI think the Wooden wild mouse had even less, you were sat like in an old log flume. Now that was a "am I going to die here?" coaster. Glad that Australia is keeping the last of its kind running and recently refurbed it.
>>2916795Star Tour's turnaround time is horrendous because of the belt checking. Suprised they've not come up with a better solution.
http>>articles/101526-Bolliger Mabillard_Design_Recall_All_Hyper_Trains_Back_To_Factory_In_Swiss.htmlHoly fuck
>>2916767Based
Every time there is an accident like this safety standards just go up and rides become safer as a whole than they were before. That’s objectively a good thing. However, does shit like this stifle innovation and “fun” like other anons were saying earlier in the thread. Not to mention, will it makes rides more expensive, mainly through increased operating costs, leading to fewer new rollercoasters getting built and more getting retired?
>black majority theme parksNot even once
Thoosies are the most persecuted minority
>>2916847I don’t understand the picture. Is the mediajew implying all those rollercoasters are unsafe now?
>>2916850Literally none of the coasters are featured at the right park lol
>>2916852LMAO. I havent visited any of those parks so I didnt know. That’s hilarious
>>2916788It uses nearly identical box spine track and is a hyper coaster but Titan does too and it’s open. I have a feeling it’s closed because of the name and SFGAm will probably close Goliath tomorrow despite being an RMC just because of the name
>>2916771What about the seatbelts on the legacy Cedar Fair hyper? Diamondback didn’t even debut with them, they added them later. My only issue with them is they seem a little loose and you can buckle them with a giant loose area before they retract but to be honest I never paid attention if they tightened. I’m pretty sure these are not like comfort collars; if they couldn’t hold a rider in the event of restraint failure, then it would have been pointless to install them
Why can Europeans open B&M Hyper's but North America can't? I swear to god if burgers ruin our theme park reputation
Six Flags has renamed all park shows under the name of Dead Mans Party to Dr. Fright’s Party
>>2916779>it’s not like B&M hyper capacity is that great anywayThey're designed to be run hard, whether they're run well or like crap is up to the park. They have high throughput with a suitable crew.>>2916795I've watched some POVs of Japanese coasters and sometimes it's the same story there too, insanely slow dispatches. The 4D there (can't remember its weird name) is particularly bad.>>2916844Technically it's safe to ride B&M flyers if your legs are out of the harness, they took that possibility into consideration during the design process and included people with their legs out in the reach envelope. They could get banged around bruised and it's definitely an operational violation, but still not a danger to the rider.>>2916857They're probably not considered safety devices then; as with other B&Ms with belts, I bet they're used as a position indicator.
Erm, do you really think it's appropriate to have a theme park open today?
>>2916876That’s the problem with the optics of this shit. To the GP a coaster is a coaster. Like that bong who used to post here who said to him there is a green one, a blue one, a red one, and they’re all the same to him. So by closing all the B&M hypers the GP starts wondering why all coasters aren’t closed
>>2916779Seaworld ops suck. Diamondback has better ops than Mako. They have great capacity and seat 4 to a row, just because Hershey park and Seaworld have garbage ops on theirs doesn’t reflect on all hypers. Mako barely ever has a line anyways
>>2916812The majority of Germans are overweight or obese.
>>2916856I forgot to mention the name lol. I don’t think GAm’s Goliath is going down but we’ll see.
>>2916867>They're designed to be run hard, whether they're run well or like crap is up to the park. They have high throughput with a suitable crew.The only part of B&M that points to greater throughput than other manufacturers is the large trains. Besides that, there’s nothing about them that is particularly fast. Trains that are obviously designed for fast throughput include Velocicoaster and Stardust Racers. No seatbelt and no middle seat for the operators to check, just a lapbar. B&Ms with seatbelts could never compete.
>>2916879What’s Diamondback’s dispatch time? I was there a few weeks ago and it’s gotta be at least 90 seconds. That would be a max of 1,280 riders per hour, worse than even Hagrid’s.
>>2916883>Besides that, there’s nothing about them that is particularly fast.Correct, that's up to the park. But they are designed to be run hard and continuously hit whatever minimum interval is specified, and their max hourly throughputs are high because of their 4-abreast seating.
>>2916883Depends on the B&M. Mako has shorter trains for example. Even with shitty ops it probably gets closer to its hourly capacity than Velocicoaster. Intamin are notorious liars when it comes to capacity and VC probably doesn’t exceed 1k riders an hour most days despite supposedly being capable of much more. Unlike most Disney and Universal high capacity coasters, there is no MCBR. Stardust doesn't count because it’s two coasters.
>>2916885Hagrid’s ain’t meeting that theoretical capacity. If it did the line wouldn’t be so long. Intamin lies about their capacity. Also more people have died on Intamin rides than any other manufacturer,
>>2916888Yes Intamin is notorious for exaggerating their throughput, makes me wonder how they come up with it. Surely parks have been wise to it for a long timeIntamin got such a bad rep that even one of their devoted customers, Cedar Fair, stopped ordering new rides from them
Should a people who have no part in the existence of roller coasters play a part in the riding and operation of them?
>>2916889Remember when Stardust Racers killed that spic in like the first week after opening?
nice to see Alton Towers has closed Rita as a sign of respect until the 25th
>>2916888I think Hagrids is closer to 500 persons/hr>14 people/train>train every 90 seconds
>>2916888>Hagrid’s ain’t meeting that theoretical capacity. If it did the line wouldn’t be so long.That doesn’t follow. Line length not only a function of ride capacity. It also depends on the effective arrival rate, which depends on balking probability, aka at what wait time do guests consider a line not worth the wait. Which for Hagrid’s is really fucking high because it’s one of the best rides in the world.
>>2916895Hagrid’s dispatches way faster than that. Those trains don’t even stop in the station. I was thinking about 30 second dispatches from my experience and this video seems to confirm that.https://youtu.be/Uw5NOmrHb5YIf they can keep that up that’s 1,680 guests per hour. If they miss by even 20% its still 1,350 an hour.
>>2916887>VC probably doesn’t exceed 1k riders an hour most daysWhere are you getting this? 1,000 per hour would be 42 trains an hour which would be 86 second dispatches. Anyone who’s been on it knows those trains aren’t sitting there for almost a minute and a half before dispatching. 45-50 seconds is their usual and they can do as quick as 30 seconds.>Unlike most Disney and Universal high capacity coasters, there is no MCBRThe launch serves this function. No coasters will ever be running on the same half of the ride.>Stardust doesn't count because it’s two coasters.And both slaughter every B&M in individual capacity.
>>2916897yeah ive seen the conveyor belt station. its a good idea but train doesnt hold much. The ride is about 3 minutes. dispatching every 30 seconds would be possible then
>>2916886>But they are designed to be run hard and continuously hit whatever minimum interval is specifiedB&M sets the minimum interval, so you’re really just saying they’re not lying. Which I agree they’re probably not.>their max hourly throughputs are high because of their 4-abreast seatingTheir theoretical throughputs can be high but the actual throughput rarely approaches the theoretical because B&Ms don’t attract the crowds that would require all the measures necessary to hit the theoretical capacity. These are:>mandatory lockers or other ways of making sure people have nothing to empty their pockets of when they approach the ride>very well staffed operations with supervisor present>(optional) operator on microphone yelling at people to move faster>(optional) different unloading platform I’ve ridden all the B&Ms in North America and the only two I recall off the top of my head that hit even those main two are Fury and Rakshasa. But the neither of those have any chance of touching Velocicoaster for two reasons:1. Seatbelts2. Shape of the train means extra walking for operators. Fury ops must awkwardly check the middle seat in each row, while all but 6 of Rakshasa’s seats are “middle” seats.Fury and Rakshasa have fairly long dispatch times per rider because of this. It’s very common to see two Fury trains sitting in the brake run because the third train is taking a long time to dispatch.
>>2916902Should add running max trains to that measures list, which is at least 3. Any coaster that can’t or doesn’t run 3 trains is automatically out of any “high capacity” discussions, unless it’s an very short ride.
>>2916902>B&M sets the minimum intervalYeah but the park can set it too, because ultimately they know about how it's going to be staffed. A park might omit an MCBR and give up 3 train capacity to save money at the cost of a higher dispatch interval, but the park's managers all know they're not going to pay for 6 or 8 people to be on the dock every shift to stroke trains out in the first place, so it's pointless addition.>Their theoretical throughputs can be high but the actual throughput rarely approaches the theoreticalWe don't really know this. It's safe to presume it seldomly hits minimum interval at Six Flags parks from their staffing practices alone. But unlike Intamin, with a reasonably competent crew you can hit intervals and make or even exceed their stated throughput (it's happened at Raging Bull with 3 trains).
>>2916897The wild mouse at cedar point doesn’t stop in the station either. It helps a little bit with capacity but there is no way Hagrid’s is getting much more than 1k riders an hour, if even that. Same with VC. Intamin and Madk rides don’t make capacity monsters. They both lie about capacity. Stardust is high capacity because it has two different tracks. Slinky Dog has garbage capacity though.
>>2916876Well that’s a lie, Cheetah Hunt was closed yesterday and apparently has been for a while
>>2916759You have it backwards. Fatties have more mass at the same speed, therefore more momentum the ride has to restrain. Imagine a heavy car vs. a light car taking a sharp turn at speed. >>2916769I would prefer having a belt as a secondary layer. If that was the norm on coasters I wouldn't be so scared of them. But from what I can assume, that would inflate dispatches which parks don't want and if coasters have belts I assume they are mandatory/checked and not just an extra optional preference.
>>2916891Nobody remembers that only a year ago somebody died on a Universal coaster. I just read somebody reference it and a reply said something like “what do you mean, nothing happened there”. There is also some lawsuits about people getting injured on it, obviously cash grabs but still. Not apples to oranges but the paraplegic should have never been allowed on either which means if this is an operations failure they’re both deaths from operations failures. I guess it could still be maintenance and the restraint but this seems extremely unlikely given the design of the restraint.
>>2916923A fair number of belts are installed as an option by the park. Back when Six Flags ordered 3 giant inverted boomerangs and put them in, riders complained that the initial lift was uncomfortable because most of their mass was laying directly on the shoulder harness. Six Flags put in lap belts to keep the rider's lower torso off the bottom of the shoulder harness. That added significantly to already slow cycle times though.B&Ms use their seat belts as gauges, they're not considered a redundant safety device. Intamin uses their seat belts as a fatty filter - if you can't buckle it, Intamin thinks you're too tubby to utilize the restraint safely. So there again, it's not considered by the manufacturer to be a secondary restraint, but it is a safety device.Every woodie I've been on had seat belts plus the restraint. Don't know if they all do, just something I've observed. But since they're all going to be made to set lengths according to the manufacturer, I think it also works as a fatty filter there too.
>>2916931The parks can't legally deny boarding for most medical conditions. They can discourage it in certain ways but they can only really deny it if you don't have enough arm and leg bits to fully utilize the restraint (info the manufacturer will provide to the park)
thoosies die dramatic violent deaths on coasters meanwhile landwhale disney adults jump off the ride laughing and film it for tiktokhttps://x.com/DisneyScoopGuy/status/2110751683068486001
>>2916912>there is no way Hagrid’s is getting much more than 1k riders an hour, if even thatThere is a very easy way actually. Dispatch one 14 person train every 50 seconds. If you have proof they're not hitting that, provide it, otherwise this is just your headcanon.
>>2916935>Dispatch one 14 person train every 50 seconds. If you have proof they're not hitting that, provide it, otherwise this is just your headcanon.Ok, provide proof that they're routinely hitting that interval every day it operates for an entire year, otherwise this is just your headcanon.
/ourgirl/ just pretending nothing happened
>>2916957What else is she supposed to do? Btw what does she do for work? It seems all she does is travel to different parks every week and it’s not like she’s married to a rich husband…
>>2916931>Nobody remembers that only a year ago somebody died on a Universal coaster.believe it was a double amputee and now all mack coasters wont allow you to board unless you can physically get in the train unassisted. I will say that first hill on Stardust does throw you out of your seat and I can see it possible hitting your head on the bar on the front row if you cant stop yourself
>>2916968A post of remembrance.She just turned 18 in the spring. Still living off parents. It does make you wonder if she’ll go to college soon. No way her pages pay much despite all the free shit she gets.
>>2916971He was a paraplegic with a recent spinal surgery to put rods in his back and had fractured his femur 5 years prior. Guy had extremely deteriorated bone health and the forces of the ride mangled him. His femur was broken in half by the end of it which was probably the cause of him going over the lap bar to slam his head against shit. His legs had a lube like appearance which is never a good sign if youre wheelchair bound.
>>2916974I thought she was on her 30s. Multiple anons on here have said so. She def doesn’t look 18
>>2916931After somebody dies on a coaster does that make it haunted?
New info: The family member next to him was not his son and claims he fainted and was hunched over midway through the ride. The man in the same row also says he was hunched over his restraint and thought it was because he was trying to retrieve something. A person behind him thought he was trying to retrieve a phone (the phone story again although different from “reaching up” for it). Also he was not a thoosie, family member said he hadn’t rode coasters in a while because of a medical condition which prevented him from riding other coasters in the park except this. I’m not quite sure what that could be except obesity. We only see his back in the ride photo. The media tends to run older photos, sometimes years older because that’s what’s on social media. When you gain a lot of weight, people have a tendency to keep their old pre-weight photos on profiles.I’m going back to what I said from the start, the ride was dispatched with the restraint in an unsafe 1-click position that wasn’t even fully engaged and it popped out when he passed out. It could also be he was hunched over because the restraint opened but his family member claims it didn’t open yet (but he could have been holding it closed if it did indeed fail). There is still the issue of it not being fully open in the ride photo, it’s partially closed or it would be angled all the way out. Candymonium is opening today as per Hershey. The European hypers never closed. Mako and Apollo’s chariot are still closed. SF is running inspections on Nitro and possibly others but this is probably for legal reasons. I do not think the restraint failed.
>>2917058Also, the relative said he tried to ride other rides in the park and was denied on them except for this. I highly doubt he was denied it after explaining his medical history to a teenage Atlanta “youth” ride attendant. He was denied because he was too big too big to ride. Tyre Sampson 2.0 and the “denied from other rides” story has been circulating since the incident. What does the minimum locking position look like? Does it look like the ride photo? I want to see some ride photos. Maybe they dispatched with 1.5 clicks and .5 fell back to 1 and he got sucked out.
>>2917058I think we have to wait for the official report and pick that apart because this kind of speculation, while interesting, still doesn't explain why he was ejected at the end of the ride and not the beginning.
>>2917058>I’m not quite sure what that could be except obesity. We only see his back in the ride photo. The media tends to run older photos, sometimes years older because that’s what’s on social media. When you gain a lot of weight, people have a tendency to keep their old pre-weight photos on profiles.That's a good point that I just hadn't thought of. Seems like it could be another New Texas Giant situation. >>2917062The ending of the ride has the most aggressive airtime.
>>2917064>there are people on this board who don’t realize people use their most flattering photos on social media
>>2917047They troll. She looks 18.
>>2917062Being denied of other coasters in the park because of a “medical condition” and reportedly passed out and hunched over is (mostly) new information that changes things. I’m phone posting but I found a pic of a bigger person on Nitro and the restraint pole is more vertical compared to the angled ones next to the person. I don’t think the restraint is open and eyewitnesses claiming it was doesn’t mean anything, they say that about other rides too that came back confirmed locked like the CGA drop tower incident and New Texas Giant. As for why he didn’t come out earlier, he wasn’t passed out yet and the positives push you down into the seat. I suspect it was the helix at the end that flung him out (“levitating side ways” and he got bounced around the final airtime hills, possibly already dead, before being ejected in the final intense turn
>>2917068I told you niggers it wasn’t B&Ms fault and it was another Biggie Splats but you wouldn’t listen
>>2917058>Also he was not a thoosie, family member said he hadn’t rode coasters in a while because of a medical conditionNot riding rides for awhile because of your health does not mean you are not a thoosie
>>2917069Fat people and rollercoasters do NOT mix
>>2917068All that makes sense to me. That helix is pretty intense, a lot of people grey out at that part. I'm sure if he had been conscious, he could've held himself in, and probably had before. If he hadn't been so overweight, then being passed out wouldn't have thrown him out of the ride. The combination of both things is probably what caused the accident. If this information is correct, then I'd guess that the B&M hypers that don't currently have seatbelts will get them, at least in America, and they'll be there as a measuring device, and that will solve the problem and make sure this doesn't happen again.
>>2917070He wasn’t a thoosie. He just joined a group called roller coaster enthusiasts so everybody said he was. >>2917069>>2917071I suspect they’ll put seatbelts on the ones without them, but for all the people on team “restraint open”, nobody has proven it yet. There has to be a point when restrain modifications to accommodate “guests of size” is too much. You punish the majority to allow a minority to ride. The way RMC restraints come down on kids and skinnier people with all that room scares me a little. The problem is the “guests of size” which are a reoccurring theme among roller coaster ejections in recent years.
>>2917073Yep. The helix causes greyouts on this ride and other B&Ms like Raptor at Cedar Point that have them. Or Goliath at MM even though it’s not a real B&M. Where there are greyouts there are blackouts. We don’t know yet but it fits. And then it goes through 3 intense airtime hills in succession where he flew out and came back down 3 times before the die photo catches him on the final intense turn and braking. Restraint failure is still a possibility but it’s looking less and less likely
>>2917076If it didn’t fail how did he come out
>>2917083The failure in this case would be letting him ride in the first place when the lap bar couldn't close far enough to restrain him due to his weight.
>>2917083This >>2917085 and he passed out and was hunched over; his (large) body changed positions due to the forces. It is extremely unlikely that a large guest passed out and hunched over and then their restraint failed and they fell out. This is the coaster version of splat albert. The restraint is not open in the ride photo either which some of us have been saying for days. It’s a big gap but it sounds like he was a big guy if they denied him from riding all the other coasters.
I never thought the restraint looked opened. People are focusing on the guy on the end but he doesn’t look fat to me. Plus angles. It’s going to turn out that it was clicked into the minimum safe position but they never tested fat people passing out and going limp while in that position. I expect seat belts will be installed in the off season. The legacy Cedar Fair hypers will reopen soon since they already have them. The United parks hypers will stop letting fat people on and convert one train at a time to seat belts. Hollywood Dream will reopen because Nips aren’t fat. If the clam shell doesn’t touch the arm rest you can’t ride, probably 4 clicks will do the trick. Good incentive to lose weight
Literally every accident I have heard of that is not a retard getting on the tracks and getting hit is one of the following>Obese>Disabled>Has health condition that leads to heart attack, etcThese people should not be at theme parks
I notice a lot of comments on parkfans and reddit and coasterforce where people say things like “my heart goes out to his family and I feel so sick”. If the guy was white would they do this? I think some still would but others are being extra nice because he’s black and has a muslim name and wouldn’t say that if they were white. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a tragedy I just hate that fake minority empathy shit. Apparently he isn’t a father either, that’s his niece or nephew next to him… not to take anything away just saying the news is so full of shit they can’t even get that detail right.
>>2917092To be fair, there have been maintenance issues. Mindbender… that other one that’s now at Indiana Beach. But yeah at the world class coasters at bigger parts it’s usually some combo of what you mentioned.A couple people on Reddit are starting to get it and question if it really is a restraint issue with the unconscious and limp detail. Everybody else still think the restraint came open in addition to him being unconscious and limp…. An unlikely storm of coincidences. Especially considering he couldn’t ride other rides because of a “medical condition”
>>2917095/pol/ moment
>>2917091Heart disease is a good incentive to lose weight but that hasn’t worked.
>>2917101No it isn’t. I said it’s tragic. I’m simply pointing out how idiotic white people are with their fake empathy for minorities that they wouldn’t apply to white people. They’re going above and beyond and it’s cringey to read through especially knowing most wouldn’t say anything if the victim was white and named John Jones. They do that same exaggerated fake empathy with pit bulls too
>>2917091I think you're exactly right. This is the theory that makes the most sense. I'd feel comfortable riding Goliath today. >>2917098That girl lost her feet on the drop tower at Kentucky Kingdom due to lack of maintenance. Big Thunder Mountain at Disneyland derailed and killed a guy. It definitely does happen, but I agree that the more we find out, the more it seems like an issue of someone who shouldn't have been allowed to ride. The idea of adding seatbelts is a bummer, but I think that would be all you'd need to do to make sure this never happens again.
>>2917103>No it isn’t.>I’m simply pointing out how idiotic white people are with their fake empathy for minorities that they wouldn’t apply to white people. They’re going above and beyond and it’s cringey to read through especially knowing most wouldn’t say anything if the victim was white and named John Jones. They do that same exaggerated fake empathy with pit bulls tooPick one.
>>2917105Between this and Stardust and many others, I think the wagies are uncomfortable with asking fat or disabled people to fuck off, and 99.9% of the time they come back fine, which reinforces their decision to just let them ride anyway.
>>2917110>and 99.9% of the time they come back fine, which reinforces their decision to just let them ride anyway.I'm sure this dude had ridden Goliath before and was okay. If he wasn't passed out, he probably would've been able to brace himself and come back healthy and having had a good time.
>>2917095incel post
>>2917110That can’t be very enjoyable for the fat rider though. I’ve seen ride attendants put all their weight into locking restraints, sometimes requiring two of them. And then you can see the rolls sticking out. I remember on Iron Gwazi some fat guy screaming in pain when they pushed down and complained to be careful… coincidentally United parks now ask before they do this. Why ride if it’s painful? Why not use the test seat if you have to wait in line to go through this procedure only to do the walk of shame?
>>2917111/pol/ moment
>>2917113Coasters are designed so that (when operated safely) you can pass out and still come back safely. So probably an ops problem ultimately.>>2917118And obesity is enjoyable in general? If they cared about quality of life they wouldn’t be fat in the first place.
>>2917120I'm guessing that he would be turned away from the B&M hypers that have seatbelts.
Seatbelts on hypers aren’t bad. I rode Nitro and Mako first and thought it would ruin them but they’re fine on the ones that have that I’ve been on since.
>>2917110Imagine if the white teenage wagie told the fat black guy he can’t ride?Twitter would cancel them so hard for being racist. This is the group who tried doxxing a teenage costume performer at Sesame because they didn’t high five a black girl they didn’t see
>>2917123Disabled Stardust rider… Obese ICON Park drop tower rider, obese New Texas Giant rider, now the obese Goliath rider.. I wonder if they were all white instead of minorities if they would have been turned away? But because people don’t want to be a racist fat shamer, they let them ride?
>>2917095Correction: he is a father. His daughter didn’t ride (or see what happened thankfully)
>>2917092Have any of those people been White though? See >>2917123 >>2917126
>>2917122How do you even add a seatbelt to those clamshell lap restraints?
I'm sorry but if this thing is coming up to ride the coaster my wagie ass is operating I am telling them they are not able to ride and need to leave for their own safety
>>291712390% of SFOG employees are black
>>2917126>minorities are far more likely to die on ridesTell me more about how systemic racism isn’t real.
>>2917134Damn, he looks like he was having a good day too
>>2917133They’re part of the seat. Fury 325 has them. All the hyper sat Carowinds, Kings Island, and Canada’s Wonderland have them
>>2917136It’s reverse racism. They didn’t want to be labeled a racist so they allowed them to ride.
>>2917103This is very true
>>2917134>racism results in better consequences for latinxs >anti-racism results in death
Hershey released a statement about opening Candymonium today and it says this:"Based on the information presently available, the manufacturer has not identified an engineering basis to recommend shutting down similarly designed coasters solely because of the incident in Georgia."It’s not a restraint failure
I know how parks can fix this issue with "lazy" ride operatorsdemand that all park staff must be able to swim.
>>2917165What is wacism for $200, Alex.
So it happened again...
>>2917167That's really not what they needed right now
>>2917162Candy is 14 years older than Goliath so its restraints don’t necessarily have the exact same design, but agreed it’s probably unlikely.
>>2917167Doesn’t look like part of a coaster. Reddit says flag plate but it’s much smaller and doesn’t look like a flag plate. Millennium is closed but probably out of precaution or possibly just because of the rain and wind that closed most of the rides… if it opens back up with everything else it’s a nothing burger. If it remains closed we have a problem>>2917173Newer you mean? Isn’t Candy the newest B&M hyper in the US?
>>2917176Yeah I meant newer. If B&M found anything truly substantial to improve since then though they probably would have retrofitted the old ones though.
>>2917167Where tf is the VIP lounge he's talking about?If it came off the train it looks like some kind of unimpressively machined block that a lot of force would be up against, like that's where the catch car would butt up against the belly of the train or something to that effect. No idea though, and note holes are different sizes.Could just be someone trying to scam the park
>>2917180It’s next to the millennium force queue. The coaster’s final overbank is right next to it. It has a roof and supposedly they found this by cabanas they have there. It doesn’t look like anything that would be part of a coaster and it’s not the flag plate, the flag plate looks like TTD’s and is L-shaped unlike this thing. Rougarou is near it and that’s closed too.
>>2917185A flag plate definitely wouldn't be that big, they're always thin too. I don't think it's a track part, either, unless perhaps they had been out there working on the track and using that piece (for whatever) during the course of their duties and forgot about it, leaving it to eventually vibrate off the track. Like it looks like a piece of scrap metal you'd use to make a jig or block something a certain way, doesn't need to be precise.If that thing had been thrown from the train at speed it would have messed something up, even just leaving impact points in the ground. Haven't seen any other info about it though, no news site is reporting anything.
Six Flags is keeping all their hypers closed
>>2917187They’re probably all being inspected. At least Nitro is for sure. And Seaworld is having Mako inspected and intends to open it after it passes. The seatbelt ones will probably open soon. Carowinds hates Fury being closed because it’s their marquee attraction
>>2917188>Nitro is down (reasonably though)>El Toro is closed (and when it's not it's on one train)>Literally nothing elseWords cannot explain how awful this park is. Elitch Gardens levels of bad
What are my odds of riding apollo’s chariot sunday night
>>2917188When Carowinds has both Fury and Thunder Striker closed, there's basically no reason to go. I guess I'd go if I lived in Charlotte and ride Afterburn, but it's not worth traveling to as long as Fury is closed.
>>2917191I saw a girl post that she was visiting Carowinds for the first time today. Unless she has kids (don’t think she did) what an awful experience that will be.
>>2917191It's halloween season so the lines are shit anyway because of the haunts
>>2917189Is Houdini open? So long as that’s open it’s a good day. The Flash is underrated too
>>2916610My opinion ain't worth shit cause I never saw Dinoland USA, but it did sound like it was a typical fair but themed to dinos. There's people deeply nostalgic for it wanting it back, but nostalgia is a hell of a drug so I take their input with a grain of salt. Even if it had a fun backstory with a cute theme, the actual rides and games could be found anywhere.
universal orlando just added foggy ground effects to ET
Unironically would you be willing to ride a coaster with restraints like this? Imagine it's some kind of Hanibal Lecter/psych ward horror coaster
>>2917167Welp. It’s confirmed a piece of the train. Not a good look. Six Flags needs to be done at this point. This company needs to be dissolved and its name needs to be buried. They’ve destroyed everything that’s good in the industry by absorbing the good parks and bringing them down to their level. I don’t know where those parks go from here but they need to run fast away from Six Flags.
>>2917208A change in ownership would be good. I don't know if Herschend can afford to buy more parks right now but they're the gold standard.
six flags is so shit lmao>>2917202great news. I'll make sure its added to the threadly news update
>>2917216Please include news and updates from parks besides Disney and Universal in the next one!
>>2917208The wheels were starting to fall off at Cedar Fair at the end, too. Let us not forget the incident the closure of TTD. There had been a lot of strife between maintenance forces and the company in the years prior.
>>2916625The weird little restrain guy bar thing doesn't look like it really works too well anyway. They did not have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to a fucking lap bar.
>>2916552Most in the US are supposed to be retracked after 30 years, but they still mostly ignore it. Magic Kingdom Space Mountain has gone a little over 40 years and it feels like bumping down a dirt road. That damn thing is going to kill somebody if they don't do something about it. >>2916409So is there a verdict? Was it restraint failed, guy was too fat, or he was a moron that stood up on a coaster?
>>2917223Huh?>>2917224>Most in the US are supposed to be retracked after 30 years, but they still mostly ignore it.Wrong
>>2917224Hopefully anything they do to Space Mountain doesnt change its track layout or ride type. Would suck to get yet another clone while also ruining the history of the ride. No fucking clue whats with retards begging for clones and imports.
>>2917227>retards begging for clonesNo one does this>and imports.As long as it's not from China
>>2917229Ive seen it in this very general before with space mountain, just not this thread. Theres a lot of people out there who don't like MK space mountain and make this displeasure known by begging to empty ears to replace it with one of the other versions. Unrelated but people begging for clones and imports is how MK Pirate of the Caribbean sort of came into existence way back when, ignoring the energy crisis ruining a bunch of other plans. Of course back then making a trip to the other side of the country was a harder task then it is today and MK is basically a clone park but the bitching from the public has existed since forever.
>>2917167What the fuck are they doing
>>2917233WDW SM is Arrow jank and showing its age, however, the other versions are vastly inferior. The DL version is a boring layout in comparison. Not sure why anybody would want that. It doesn’t even have any drops… maybe one? I can’t really tell. Anyways, it sucks. When they added music in the 90s it improved it but I can’t even tell it’s been retracked. Compared to WDW BTM where the retrack is glass smooth but the same layout however it feels almost like a different ride.
>>2917227They kind of have to unfortunately. They won’t want to keep the two separate operating tracks for staffing and maintenance reasons. As soon as they close it for extensive overhaul, that layout is dead. It might be iconic and nostalgic to long time riders but to the GP it’s just a coaster in the dark which is layout-agnostic
>>2917235Just nigging around
Hollywood Dream is back open. Mako is still closed but rumor is Seaworld plans to open it pending a state inspection (and I assume the same would apply to Apollo’s Chariot).
>>2917252DL’s is way better. MK’s itself only has one drop of any size so not sure how that’s an argument in its favor. It’s also way slower, not even hitting 30 mph. Maybe if you love laterals.
>>2917267Honestly MK’s is kind of a fancy wild mouse.
>>2917267DL’s feels slower to me and has no drops. The sound is doing some heavy lifting. WDW’s feels more “wild” and gives me miniature Magnum XL 200 vibes. I think the DL version just flat out sucks and is boring and skippable unless it has no line (which is almost never). It’s quite shit and I’m sorry to hear you prefer it, you just have quite shit tastes. This is probably just a case of California/SL snobbery where everything is better even when it’s not>>2917270Kinda. Banked turns though. The GP probably wouldn’t know a difference if they replaced it with a modern mouse.. I remember some even arguing that spinning mouse at AK was “the same” as SM.I’m not worried about WDW gutting and replacing SM with a DL clone, DL’s is an old shitty layout. It’s really sad they retracted it (using a no name company) with the same layout. That was a good opportunity to improvise it like I’m sure they’ll get Vekoma to make something actually good at WDW when they gut it
>>2917272DL’s is objectively faster. MK’s does feel more “wild” considering it’s just a wild mouse. It’s nothing like Magnum though considering Magnum is fast with big drops and MK’s is slow with almost no drops at all. I grew up going to MK and didn’t have a full day at DL until this year. It’s just obvious they improved on the original concept.
>>2917227Fortunately there is really no cartoon scifi franchise Disney owns that is popular enough to retheme it. And they already rethemed two other things in Tomorrowland to Stitch
>>2917233They're probably fat, the cars on Space Mountain are fucking tiny. Way too tiny for the average 250lbs american to ride.
>>2917276I’ve ridden both plenty of times and the Disneyland version is shit. They’re both slow “roller coaster type rides”. I do get Magnum vibes as they’re both janky and sometimes painful Arrow coasters but they’re still enjoyable
>>2917308Felix the Cat?
>>2917310They were designed in the 70s when the average US adult weight was 170lbs so it is a legit concern. The average adult Disney guest is well in excess of that and the park has to accommodate to them because they’re the paying guests. That’s why coasters like Tron have a special fat seat for fat people and that’s on top of the fact that the restraints are already equipped to handle the average 250lb fat American guest. The fat seat is for those who are morbidly obese
>>2917310Nah, the WDW Space Mountain cars are extremely comfy. I was on recently and forgot how comfortable they were. They could make a chair for at home like that.
>>2917316It’s okay to have an unpopular opinion. I believe Poseidon likes MK’s better too so you think the same as that great man.
>>2917364Literally lmfao. You win. Audible kek
Is Knott's Scary Farm really worth $69?
>>2917364It’s okay to like the Disneyland version. It’s just forgettable, boring, nobody has nostalgia for it, and it’s like signing a contact that says you’re gay
>>2917383No. It’s filled with beaners
>>2917383Only during slow days imo, but I've heard many prefer it to Hollywood's HHN
If I fly out of a roller coaster y'all niggas better try and catch me
>>2917384Disneyland’s is higher ranked than MK’s on pretty much every list and system for a reason.
>>2917404I had a cap fly off on a log flume once during the big drop and the stranger behind me caught it.Thank you for reading my story.RIP Stanly Falls
>>2917496They’re both shitty babby coasters for toddlers and disney ‘adults’. It’s like bragging about which wacky worm is better. Who the fuck cares?
>>2917507Family coasters are not babby coasters. You’re confusing classes.
>>2917515Except for the DLP version, all the SMs are closer to baby coasters like wacky worms than real roller coasters including the better family coasters.
>>2917507This. Glad I'm not arguing about an enclosed children's ride.
>>2917535See you’re still confused. Worms are typically only 15 feet tall and less than 15 mph. Even the MK Space Mountain shatters both of those figures.
https://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/the-twilight-zone-tower-of-terror/news/18oct2026-is-the-twilight-zone-tower-of-terror-getting-an-update-rod-serling-voice-actor-visits-wdi.htmTower of Terror bros...
Trying to remember all the high profile coaster removals in the last 2 or so years:>X2>Superman: Escape from Krypton>Kumba>Rip Ride Rockit>Kingda Ka>Arie Force OneAny others?
>>2917588Wild One
>>2917588Hurricane
>>2917588>>2917590Could add Batwing as well since it was the last of its kind
This is a good video about Goliath https://youtu.be/-7p0YeJOz54?is=Lk4PZimeflChNExNBasically the guy is saying that if the bar has gone down three clicks, there's a yellow line at the bottom of the bar that should be visible. There's videos of people riding where the restraint looks way too high, and the yellow line is not visible. He's saying that there's something wrong with the sensors, and also that the retarded teenage niggers who work there should've noticed the lack of yellow line, but didn't. The park definitely has problems.
>>2916065Better that than a frogposter
>>2916094The black guys face is peak comedy, I’m sorry to say
>>2916094WIPIPO DONT SEASON THEY COASTERS
>>2916330MM needs new management too, thoughbeit
>>2917643That’s a kid watching his dad die.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb7oDUWhSD4RESTRAINT FAIL CONFIRMEDHE WASN'T TOO FATRESTRAINT FAIL CONFIRMED
>>2913726https://youtu.be/9wKQQeE9XZE?si=sllTaV1L4YqFKEPlResident of Golden Oaks opens up about her amazing lifeAmazing trailer by Hallmark and Disney Parks for a Disney Adult Romancehttps://youtu.be/WZmH1-hTKM4?si=ovWM964vQbSeIS7T
>>2916974She might be taking off a year to try to build up enough of a $$social media$$ to not have to do college. If you were beautiful, young, and had financial family security, wouldn't you do the same?
>>2916957They're attacking Hershey Park since they made a wholesome movie with Alexandria Daddario in it.
>>2916847All at once? Seems to be a media China thing to attack things that make people happy.
Stardust trying to claim another victim
>>2917679At least post the part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpq5Mo1xJl4
>>2917758That's almost a decapitation
>>2917709The number of people who can do that full time is very low, and just because they can do it full time now doesn’t mean they can 10 years from now. She should probably go to college.
>>2917781She has another job managing the social media page for a local business, and I believe she has said that she's interested in taking classes that could help her in the social media business.
Ngl bros second premium scream and I feel HHNed out like I think I'm sick of it lmao
What kind of content should she make?
>>2917944trying on clothes.is this the answer you wanted?
>katie has only an hour at worlds of fun>”let’s see how many coasters I can do!”>”starting off with mamba”>rest of the video is a mamba POV followed by katie saying saying “worlds of fun is now closed!”>she only rode mamba>never acknowledges the weirdness of doing a “let’s see how many” video and only getting to one
You have to ride one ride 24 hours straight for $10,000, what are you riding?I'm only familiar with WDW so that's the pool I'm selecting from. Giving it some thought I realize there aren't even a whole lot of ride vehicles there that wouldn't give you an ass ache after 1 hour. I guess if you want to game the question with a cheeky answer, you go Carousel of Progress since you could technically stand up, lay down and walk around without leaving the ride. I won't play that card.Immediately out of the question due to discomfort: Omnimovers, boat rides. Peoplemover is spacious but janky. Space Mountain seats are super nice and comfy but I don't know about coastering 24 hours straight. Big Thunder is my favorite ride maybe ever but I would literally be deaf by the end.I guess this is when I miss the riverboat, as that would be comfortable and unintrusive and freeing.Weird how I never realized that none of the rides here are very comfortable. In fact many are simply uncomfortable. I understand why they mostly can't have padded seats though. Space Mountain is the only seat that I can recall thinking "oh wow this is nice, I could be here all day"
>>2917679This is just speculation from Ryan the Ride Mechanic. If the restraint failed, the other hypers would be closed. Mako reopened today btw. It’s most likely this >>2917596 and a sensor failed. They’ve been dispatching trains in unsafe positions and the reason why nobody died before is because they didn’t pass out, go limp and become dislodged.
>>2917993Will we ever get proper closure though? Feels like we never got it with Stardust. Or maybe I just missed something.
>>2917992You’re thinking about comfort but you didn’t even mention food, water or bathroom. I’m not going without any of those for $10k.
>>2917996Stardust killed that guy because it wasn’t designed to keep body type’s like his safe. What more did you want?
>>2917998Doesn't really make a difference when the given is that you're just going to have to diaper up and ride ops pass you bottles of water and snacks at the load station
>>2917992Hall of Presidents>Sit down in AC>Take a nap for 24 hours
>>2918010Not a rideIf shows were permitted then American Adventure would be more kino
>>2918000If you have that taken care of then yeah it's easily CoP. You can piss and shit on one side and spend the rest of your time on the other. Bring whatever you want in your laptop.
Queencie general
>The state of imagineering in 2026
>>2918049It’s hard to overstate how bad Apple’s influence has been on some people.
>Valravn’s layout only sucks because CP insisted on spelling out the name of the state with it
>>2918118>dive coaster clone #45 has a shit layout>dive coaster clone #43....now THATS a coaster!
>>2917993It's really weird that sensor failure just doesn't even seem to be considered by him. A green light after only 1-2 clicks and him going out cold and pushing it open on the bunny hops seems like the most plausible option compared to the very heavy duty points of failure he mentions.A structural failure of any kind would have been a "close all rides worldwide for inspections and xrays" deal.
>th13teen and Rita close for the year now>Alton Tower's Dark forest section has no rides open for HalloweenMerlin hate this park...
>>2918186>lets keep buying prototypes, what could go wrong?lmaoThirteen is such a half arsed coaster. You get the same effect doing their shitty nemesis subterra ride
>>2918187Rita's been on the chopping block for a while, feels like they could replace it with a multi-launch coaster or something indoors.
Velocicoaster has a digital fence around the track near the water that estops the ride if a boat gets to close to it. The sensor is broken so for the past few days universal has a guy just standing there looking at the track all day
>>2918217Who here would be willing to get paid to watch coasters go by all day?
>>2918221They'll rotate those people out about every hour. I imagine you're dying of boredom when your time's up
>>2918232Ok why does fucking everything have to be anti-fun around here? shut the fuck up asshole
Bros, I spent the day at Dollywood, and rode Thunderhead at night for the first time. Nearly a religious experience. Coaster nirvana. When it's gotten so warmed up through the day, you are going so insanely fast.
>>2918238>shut the fuck up assholeI will not
>>2918027Who is this cutie? She’s not Katie..:>do you think she’s a virgin and that she will like balding overweight middle aged men? I’m also a douschebag, but I have a nice bank balance
>>2918184Exactly, even if it was caused by shoddy maintenance, a catastrophic failure would have resulted in B&M requesting that all clamshell trains be grounded. So far, coaster buzz is the only discussion with voices of reason showing that the restraint doesn’t look all the way open and pointing out that eyewitness testimony in a crisis is unreliable (in the station, it would appear not closed and then all the restraints would open quickly to let everybody out).Ryan the ride mechanic has interesting feedback on coasters but he was wrong about TT2. The restraint was dispatched in an unsafe position due to sensor fault (which has happened on this ride model) and ride ops being Atlanta-types. He probably would have still survived, as others possibly did with their restraints in an unsafe position due to the same sensor issue. But he passed out and was dislodged. I don’t expect the SF hypers to reopen though since most of them would close for the season next weekend
Me after the SFOG Goliath incident: Mako doesn’t have a seatbelt… I wouldn’t feel safe on it after this incident.Me after Mako reopens: BRB gonna marathon Mako ten times in a row
>>2918337I got bored of Mako after five rides. Every B&M hyper sucks compared to both Goliaths.
>>2918314Queenie from Allears
>>2918336That's my take on it too. Also Apollo's Chariot is open again now.
>>2918336Whose fault are sensor faults?
>>2918340I’ve never been on either Goliath. They’re both on the small side though, sub 200ft drops. Assuming you don’t mean the MM one or the others with that name. I’ve only been on Nitro, Candy, Mako, Thunder Striker, and Diamondback. Mako and Diamondback are super fun and interchangeable, I could ride them all day. The others were okay.
>>2918355The sensor’s obviously
>>2918340I haven't encountered a B&M hyper that can beat Raging Bull back row yet, especially with how well it's been running the past few years.
>>2918355Sensors are a failsafe, they're both the most important thing to maintain and the thing you should rely on least. It's six Flags fault for sending the car out.>push down and pull up checking for clicks and that it's secure>visual check of the lines on the restaints show it's in a 3 click+ locked positionThe sensors are there for when the ride ops fail to do their job. Six flags should test them, maintain them and if the people checking are givng the thumbs up when there are still red lights often, it's time to invest in belts
>>2918356>They’re both on the small side though, sub 200ft drops.That’s actually their strengths. Their first drops are inferior to the others but everything else is better. The small size means tighter transitions. And the other hypers lose their speed quickly to MCBRs anyway.>>2918361Raging Bull’s back row is probably the best single moment on a B&M hyper but that’s really all that’s remarkable about it.
>>2918336>Ryan the ride mechanic has interesting feedback on coasters but he was wrong about TT2.What was he wrong about? I remember he said Zamperla will get the ride running when thoosies were adamant that the project was doomed to fail.
>>2918365>Sensors are a failsafeI don't know if we can really say that. They're an aid to the crew, but ultimately the crew is responsible to ensuring each restraint is fully down and locked. The restraint sensors are a modern take on those seatbelts B&M uses on other rides like inverts. They're not a redundant safety, they're used to indicate the harness is down far enough that all the pawls have engaged their ratchets. No restraint sensor available now can positively determine if a guest is secure, that falls on the operators.>>2918369>And the other hypers lose their speed quickly to MCBRs anyway.It really is a buzzkill to get trimmed to hell in a MCBR. They're seldomly set up to lightly trim, it's usually a heavy reduction in speed. Goliath at SFMM is ridiculous, they trim that thing down to like 1mph or less.
>>2918372That’s part of why the B&M Goliaths are the best. SFMM’s Goliath is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Speaking of restraints, I rode Big Bear Mountain twice yesterday. The first time, I was in the very last car on the right. My lap bar felt wrong. Like I could push it up too much when I pushed against it, and it kind of wobbled from side to side. I know it's not supposed to feel that way because when I rode it a second time in a different seat, it felt like what I'd expect a restraint to actually feel like. When I was in the back row, a ride op noticed me playing with the lap bar and came back to check it again. And it held me in, I was fine, but there was definitely something wrong with it. Like it needs to be tightened or something.
>>2918379I suspect you were right at the point where you almost got another click but didn't, so you had the maximum amount of travel possible
>>2918385These lapbars don't click, they're hydraulic. And like I said, one of them wobbled from side to side, not just up and down.
>>2916907The park interval will always be lower than the B&M interval so of course it’s designed to be able a lower rate than its maximum. >We don't really know this. It's safe to presume it seldomly hits minimum interval at Six Flags parks from their staffing practices alone. Or Sea World or Busch or Hershey. I believe that’s all of the American ones. >But unlike Intamin, with a reasonably competent crew you can hit intervals and make or even exceed their stated throughput (it's happened at Raging Bull with 3 trains).As I said, it’s rare. I’m not even sure I believe that though. Raging Bull has 36 seats, but that’s 36 people to get seated and 36 lap bars to check, which you can’t even start doing until all of them have put away everything into the bins, because it’s not enough of a draw for mandatory lockers.
>>2916936>Ok, provide proof that they're routinely hitting that interval every day it operates for an entire year, otherwise this is just your headcanon.That doesn’t follow at all. What was the source of your 1000 number? Just gut feeling?
>>2918389Someone else mentioned 1000 but it's well known that B&M hourly capacity is realistically achievable and Intamin's seldom, if ever, is
>>2918411Are many people saying this?
>>2918414If you work in the industry or are just a thoosie it's pretty well known that ride manufacturers' stated capacities range from realistic to ridiculous. Intamin's stated capacities are usually in the latter category.
So I guess it's confirmed now that Six Flags will indeed be adding seatbelts to Goliath and to their other hypers. I do hope that Mako and Apollo's Chariot won't do the same.
>>2918415>it's pretty well knownThat's all I need.
>>2918417How much do they affect the experience? I feel like it should be quite a bit but I honestly don't have any memories of "I sure wish I wasn't wearing a seatbelt right now" on the ones with them.
>Epic Universe AP "3 park pass" happeningkino but I think it wont allow access into the portals since the face technology is already in place. The AP will include Celestial Park only which I think is good compromise, still get the popular restaurants and stardust. It will also get people into the empty restaurants at the park and hotel
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