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hey guys
is bali any good?
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Sure, if you don't mind seeing ugly middle-class people larping as rich.
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>>2917295
i'm ugly and middle class larping as rich
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it's ok if you get a bike and drive as far away as you can from the shitty crowded tourist towns, but you'll still have to deal with insane Indonesians
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>>2917299
you'll fit right in friend
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Yes. Rent a scooter and see the island that way. Most guesthouses do scooter rentals for cheap and let you keep it even if you spend a few days away. No license required (maybe legally but the guesthouse host almost laughed when I asked). Avoid Denpasar traffic as much as possible, that's the only really scary part. I went from Uluwatu to Ubud to Padang Bai and back with a scooter, the drive alone was a really fun.
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>>2917295
I'm poor and I want to larp as rich for two weeks
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>>2917543
>rents a scooter, crashes, larps as living the rest of his life while being a quadrapalegic
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>>2917305
My gf is indo and they really are a goofy people. If you're a sperg like me you will get along with them just fine
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>>2917415
I keep seeing people say OMG YOUR GONA DIE! if you rent a scooter, especially without a license.

I did the Ha Giang loop (as solo driver) and have done scooters in philippines & india. Is it much different there? and what are the chances of being stopped by police?
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>>2918090
You will be fine until you get into an accident
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>>2918090
>Is it much different there?
denser because Bali is way way too overcrowded. I've ridden in all those places and Bali riding is just a chore the whole time
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>>2918090
I've done the Ha Giang loop too, and also did Hanoi - Cat ba and back, plus riding in chill islands in Philippines, Thailand, and others. Definitely Bali was the worst, more so than even Lombok next door, because like >>2918485 said it's crowded and feels like a chore. However, for me that only applied to the area around Ubud and all the touristy beach towns south of there. I stayed for a while in Bedugul and it was great, was happy to have a motorbike there to blast around the rice fields and get to trailheads. I imagine the north coast is also chill. The only problem is getting out of Ubud or wherever you rented the thing.

OP i advise you to go but don't go anywhere you've heard some brainless normie talk about, because Kuta, Canggu and Ubud are the poster children for overtourism. lots of hot ukranian and russians tho
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>>2918812
do you still enjoy going to Asia? or after all that, do you feel like there is nothing new to do and its just going out of habit, and less from deeply rooted desire?
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>>2917724
I find there are very little cultural differences as an American across most of Indonesia. They just have consumption taboos
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>>2918815
I love SEA, my wife and I are wage cucks and have a 1 year old so we only get a 2 week trip once a year. Grandparents love watching the baby, so we leave him for now. We normally invite a few friends to come along, but we do the itinerary first. Most people hate planning anyway.

Because of the short trips I do a ton of research and planning, and we do the 'luxury' version of most things. This includes a few $200-400 hotels that would be $2-5k in Hawaii.

SEA still feels like a cheat code to me vs going to Hawaii, Caribbean, or Yucatan. It's a good blend of safety, scenery, service, activities, cost, and culture. I'd love to take some much longer trips eventually. The only thing I can see getting sick of is worry about food poisoning and access to clean, high protein food and salads.

I love the more chaotic cities as well. My favorites so far have been Mumbai, Bangkok, and Hanoi.

I want to do a South America trip, just haven't decided on a location yet. Will venture more to Europe as well, maybe once my kid is old enough. Then we'll probably go to a few SEA places with him when it's easier and he can do more.
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>>2918900
powerful good vibes from this post
bless the grandparents for their good nature
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>>2918815
I've been twice for 6+ months each time and I don't see myself going back for a while, not to SE Asia at least. India I would go back to because it's not boring, but SEA gets old after a few months of hedonism. There's a reason why it's full of gap year kids on their first trip away from home, it's easy safe and cheap. You can get a lot of stimulation but not much adventure. For a short trip like >>2918900 it's great and he makes a good point that it's better than most typical American int'l getaway destinations. Just depends on what ya want
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>>2918900
>I love the more chaotic cities as well. My favorites so far have been Mumbai
Krishna bless u handsome kind man i love u
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>>2919032
I like how you're making fun of India but I'd love for a long grey haired indian to say to that to me.
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I would suggest actually traveling around Indonesia instead of going to Bali. Jok-Jae is a great place to visit beautiful area & was the original capital of Indonesia tons of history & Museums it is much less touristy & not jam packed with westerners but is still a travel destination so if you cant speak Indonesian or Malaysian you will still be fine. Renting a motorcycle is cheap if you want to go on your own trips but if you cant plan yourself there are tons of tourism agencies that will take you around to historical sites museums & popular local food places.
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>>2917548
Pussy
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>>2917293
Indonesia is an amazing place to travel and maybe my favorite place. Friendly people, insanely diverse, cheap, great food, nature,etc. Bali is odd because it gets the absolute dregs from Australia and to a lesser extent Europe, as well as the Eat Pray Love freakazoids, and the tech nomad shitheads. A shame because it's a really interesting place culturally, and the people outside the tourist zones are wonderful. That said, like anywhere, the freaks and parasites bunch together in the same areas and it isn't hard to get away from them if you have time to spend there.



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