/Asia Gems General/Why does nobody speak of Indonesia? It's the land of the unknown and wonder, possibly underrated, or it's a closed minded, no fun allowed, Muslim, chaotic mess I've figured
>>2918898not really interested in it after having been to malaysia. the christian people i met from there seem nice but they are an extremely low percentage of the population. not interested in dune coon mudshit.
>>2918927Disappointing, I was hoping it would be the former because the country is huge, exotic and has a good food culture. It has a lot of potential to be an interesting country
I really want to go to Indonesia but am not in a state of mind of where I want to be yet.I almost went pretty recently, as I even bought a visa, but ended up last minute going somewhere else instead. Of course I didn't really enjoy that either at the time.
>>2918933What state of mind does one have to be to go to Indonesia? Where did you go?
>>2918936>What state of mind does one have to be to go to Indonesia?Want hijab hotties :3>Where did you go?Vietnam. I like the people but was in a mindset of wanting to work on things and the infrastructure I encountered was just frustrating. Since I wasn't in a relaxed fun mindset during that time, and some things didn't work out for me, it was just another stressful time for me.
>>2918938Your mind sounds catastrophic. How unpleasant must living that way be
>>2918940You're not wrong. I've realized it might be like my own prison. I probably hold myself back more than anything else at this point.It's not pleasant, but I manage.
>>2918898Bali is one of the world's top tourism destination. Java is more crowded than any Indian state. Sumatra and Kalimintan are ecological disaster zones with steadily decreasing natural beauty remaining. I never made it to Indonesia, Cambodia or Vietnam during three seasons of tropical Asia travel.
>>2918941I used to hold myself back overthinking, not in the same way you do it though. You've got to give yourself a slap and snap out of it, realise how dumb it is and that you're robbing yourself of joy in a major way. Realise how lucky you are to have these experiences and just go and make the most of them with an open mind and no stupid things attached that you've created, you think it's hard but it's not, it's literally as easy as just doing it. Be easy going and be present
>>2918898I've wondered that too for ages. FOURTH largest population in the world yet there's effectively no Indonesian pop culture or just culture period outside of the occasional music nerd knowing what gamelan is
>>2918942>Bali is one of the world's top tourism destinationNo it isn't
Their women, especially Muslim, are the biggest whores on the planet, except they keep it private>become overseas Indo in Hong Kong or wherever>become cleaning lady>fuck every homeowner they work for>eventually their husband wants more money sent back so they accuse homeowner of assaultwhat a life
>>2918942I've been to Bali. While really nice, the tourism is a disaster. They were one of the first so they weren't to know. Crazy that countries are still making that mistake today though. Governments like Japan are below unintelligent. Odd that you chose to single out tiny Islands of Indonesia though
>>2918967Right, the more you think about it the weirder it is. It's like they don't exist
>>2918989How are their bodies? Usual childlike figure, or do they have tiny bit of shape like some Cambodians?
>>2918967Tung Tung Tung Sahur is unironically the biggest cultural product Indonesia has had in the last decade, and 80% of people don't know it's Indonesian. The Raid movies were good thoughbeit.
>>2918898I spent several months hitchhiking around Indonesia last year. I only spent a couple of days in Bali to catch a flight to the far reaches. It's perhaps the most slept on country on earth imo. But perhaps it's because, like me, people largely gatekeep it. I was on a Christian island that saw only about 3 or 4 foreigners per year. The teenage daughter of the richest family on the island (owns a guesthouse and a few things) was hyper interested in me despite me being 25 years older than her. I'm not gonna say anymore because I'm a gatekeeper. If you go and find some nice places please keep your mouth shut.
>>2919057Don't worry brother I'm with you. I hate the new "nobody goes to this country" stuff on YouTube, it's a nice way to make sure everything you like about it won't be that way when you visit in a few years.I'll only have two weeks so can't travel around to Islands. Is it possible to have a similar experience to you on the mainland? And in a Christian part? (probably goes without saying)
Food is diverse but honestly not really tasty. Too much oils and spice and weird cooking methods for me. People are friendly and cultural similar enough. Its not a cultural shock like China as a westerner. Theres plenty of beauty but also a lot of poverty so they have extreme ways of making money. Pollution wise its terrible though. Lots of plastics burned or just trash thrown wherever. Plenty of mountains and waterfalls and everything is a bit wild and not explored by foreigners. Climate is rough though very hot and humid. >>2918989Absolute truth
>>2919057Well their own country is an economic time bomb thats exploding under current government due to many of same problems Philippines has but a more acute problem is the government corruption in their export economy.
>>2919066Is a license needed to rent a Moped?
Bali tourism was out of control. I don’t feel like I experienced the country but instead experienced Disney Land for spiritual boomers from the USA.
>>2919056Oh yeah, I forgot about Tung Tung Tung Sahur, and ironically I used to work with kids so it came up a lot. It could always be worse, Quebec's largest cultural legacy is Cailou
Anyone ever get to the Malukus, it's the Christian but of Indo from when the Dutchies were there?And how is the petrol situation, I understand some islands are having massive shortages right now
>>2918938>wanting to work on things and the infrastructure I encountered was just frustratingwork on what?you didn't like the streets?
>>2918898I don't like the hippy types that are associated with it. I imagine every nature park just flooded with dread heads balancing on tight ropes and playing hand drumsno thanks
>>2919196I wanted to but most travel information was horribly out dated so the island seemed like full mystery mode aside from some beaches. Decided I didnt want to spend the week bumbling about aimlessly with my limited bahasa. Best to just meet a university girl to tour you there
>>2918984Bali saw 7 million visitors last year. Their population is 4.4 million. Yes it is an extremely visited and popular place. But nobody talks about Indonesia, only Bali as if Bali were a separate country.
>>2919320Haha right, it's quite funny isn't it. Well I'm glad anyway, it's like their minds are quarantined on that island
>>2919324How about I quarantine my dick in your ass you cunt.
>>2919335That really wouldn't be good. Not sure why you'd even think it up
>>2919320Bali spills over into other islands like lombok etc. Java is quite easy to travel with trains. One month you can do Bali and all of Java and have a full complete trip that hits all the reasons why people travel. Interesting food (though not my preference), culture (art, traditions, etc like drinking upside down coffees or buying batik cloth which my bitch of ex took), nature (waterfalls, volcanic mountains, city views, hiking), nightlife (Bali, jakarta), etc with friendly people.
>>2919295I will have to head over and report back - always been very interested in the diving and snorkelling in that part of the archipelago, on top of the history.
>>2919393Yeah i forgot about diving. There's lots of that as well. Java might have a lot of fucked up sites from fishing and underwater mining but the other islands are quite good. My biggest gripe is the Muslim country can be quite difficult to find alcohol. Big supermarkets in malls usually sell, otherwise have to visit an alcohol store which can be far
>>2919399I've spent a decent chunk of time in the Mid East so I don't mind taking a few months off beer. I believe while the northern islands, Ternate & tidore etc are Muslim (colonized originally by the Spanish and Portuguese) the southern islands of Ambon, Seram etc are Christian (Dutch/English) so you may have more luck there with booze depending on how much the state polices it.
>>2919635If you're going too remote you'll need to learn some bahasa. Thankfully it's an easy language to learn since it uses the Latin script and is generally phonetic since its a pidgin-creole language that follows Dutch rules adapted to unify Indonesia linguistically. Even then only maybe half speak it since other dialects are strong in their local regions
>>2919658I'm quite lucky to be Australian, I did 7 years of Bahasa at school, so I'm not fluent but I've gotten by in Java with it
>>2919670Bahasa is one of the easiest languages to learn. Even easier than Spanish I would say since its got really easy rules. Spanish is just easier for some since their backgrounds or having learned other romance languages
>>2918938> wanting to work on things and the infrastructure I encountered was just frustratingyour mental illness shows through your words.
ausfag here...Only been to Jakarta and Bali but multiple times, and I will definitely go back. The country has active volcanoes and Komodo dragons which i want to go see. also keen to explore some of the lawless parts of the country like Ache and west papua. even the borneo Kalimantan part...bali gets a bad wrap but it's a blast whenever i go there. Jakarta is fun at nights, if you know where to go, and your dollar goes a long way there. but it's pretty boring during the day. they dont have walkable neighbourhoods where you can just go and explore. it's urban sprawl hell.
My knowledge of Indonesia is limited to Jakarta, and the college age women there being addicted to anal sex because they didnt want to get pregnant and wanted to remain virgin for marriage.So they knew all about how to clean and get ready for a real buttpounding, and lots of them achieve orgasm from it.Getting pussy sex isnt impossible but is a huge chore compared to casual anal. It seems that Indonesia women are built for it, since many I encountered had "donut" buttholes you typically only see on black women. You know, the meaty and hefty anal ring that indicates they can really take it.Apparently abortions are extremely hard to get on the downlow there, and becoming a single mom is basically total life destruction and expulsion from your family and relegation to life as a prostitute or massage girl. So, up the butt no baby.
>>2919742Incel vibes
>>2919741I didnt particularly enjoy jakarta clubs. I went to blok m, and some what I thought would be the best parts. Pretty mid. Some pretty girls but way too many zesty gay bottons
>>2919742I need a indo hoe NOW god damn
>>2919742How easy is it to meet open minded women. Do most females wear that Muslim crap?
>>2919739Your never having been to Vietnam is showing.A more simple phrasing could have been Vietnam was kind of a shit hole and I often couldn't get comfortable.
>>2919752>>2919946That dude is just the same guy that posts stories in phg. Hes been doing it for years writing porn and its cringe. Indonesian girls have never offered anal because the ones open to meeting with foreigners are already dick riders. The ones really believing in religion would be too modest to actually meet and instead just uses people to practice english and have someone to talk too. I seriously hate the women who use dating apps as a way to practice their English and just try to endlessly lead you on
>>2920121>women who use dating apps as a way to practice their EnglishThat's really vile. Not surprising though, as using people is in their genetic make up.I guess I'll accept the relegation to a strictly no fun holiday. I'll make the most of the interesting history, architecture, food etc. thanks for letting me know. Is Jakarta really than much of an unpleasant and unwalkable city? That's quite a bummer too, I've heard this a couple of times
>>2920126>That's really vile.whats the issue? app cucks deserve it
>>2920127Why are you so negative and bitter? Not they don't, people are just trying to find something nice in their lives, they don't deserve to be screwed over. I heavily use apps and hate a nice date on Friday
>>2920133Why are you shilling for Shekelstein to commodify sex? Apps are clearly a blight on society, you sold your principles for the promise of some crumbs of pussy. I never use apps and had sex a few hours ago, got another date tomorrow. Your girl is gonna meet a guy IRL and flake out on you by Friday
>>2920134How did you meet her? And is she attractive? Post a picture. Women are the demons, they make things nasty whether apps exist or not
>>2919057your lack of words speaks volumes : i.e. u as a middle age coomer are emptying your sac in loads of indo teens.
Has anyone been to Medan?
>>2920134Phone addicts think it's completely normal to flirt with a lit up rectangle purporting to be a female when they feel horny.
>>2918927You are not wrong. My wife is Indonesian but worked in Malaysia so I have spent alot of time in both & I much prefer Malaysia. I think the food is better in Indonesia but if their cooking is very similar so if you dont have much experience w/ the cuisine & are not really into cooking you probably wont be able to tell the difference. Malaysia is cleaner & has better public transportation & is much less racist. Every time we go back to Indonesia we are constantly harassed by local men upset I took the prettiest girl from their village but sucks to suck I am just better & they will just have to deal with the fact that the rich blonde white man will always be better than them & the best of their women will leave them for the first chance they get to have a white man put babies in them
I really want to go to Indonesia but the air pollution just looks horrific.
>>292074Thats just because of the forest fires & it is polluting Malaysia & Singapore a air as well. SEA in general has shit air qualitu though I never cared about air qualoty before I lived in Korea but after a few months I had to get a couple good air filters & constantly change their filters & the central one for the house. Of you want good air you will probably have to wait until the rain season gets a bit farther on the way.
Retards don't know how to make good travel books. I'm really going to carry a paving stone "mini" phrase book with me every day. How is it impossible to get a actual mini one?
>>2920744Yikes
>>2920749Live a bit. Don't be that fussy man
>>2920126If you're adventurous you'll have fun but jakarta is highly corpo girls you'll meet.
>>2921198>corpoCorporate? I'm going to Yogjakarta. Just hoping is isn't too Muslim no fun allowed, and also not too many foreigners
>>2921201Indonesia is fun but sometimes its hidden behind language or haram status
>>2921543That's fine >>2921110
