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Updates and Discussion for English and Japanese games with gacha mechanisms.

Heaven Burns Red >>4508709
Reverse 1999 >>4469257
D4DJ >>4409411
Path to Nowhere >>4331277
Fate/Grand Order >>4488682
Uma Musume >>4489534
HoYo thread >>4510064
Madoka Magia Exedra >>4496787
World Dai Star >>4013431
Love Live >>4508298
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>>4516347
Honestly, is Silver Palace even a gacha game? I have been looking through all its promo material and they don't mention gacha mechanics once. It's kind of fucking weird. They do mention multiple playable characters and it looks like Genshin rip-off (with much better art direction). I guess a free mobile game by default will always be gacha though.
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>>4516352
Yes, it's the easiest way to monetize your game. Which gacha game mentions gacha mechanics in their advertisement material after all? But we don't know all the details yet since there's been no beta test or anything
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>>4516355
>Which gacha game mentions gacha mechanics in their advertisement material after all?
Like.. most of them? Talking about such an essential mechanic is pretty standard. Gacha players are also autistic about pull rates and whatever the fuck else, so it would be best to get that out of the way.
Such a waste though. They could have made a real ARPG without any gacha shit and just sold it like normal and then they probably could have streamlined it and not bloated it for gacha infusion purposes and bogged down its mechanics for monetization shit.

I despise the future where all good looking anime action games are just shitty gachas.
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Play Night Dutty Abbyss
Fmc had her own characterization like Belle and she like hand holding
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>>4516355
>But we don't know all the details yet since there's been no beta test or anything
CBT1 opened yesterday. Ashikai stream was great, don't know how many people got the chance to try it but I'm sure you can find some more.
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>>4516488
Oh, fresh news then. Guess that means I was technically wrong in that case. Maybe I'll check out some of that footage, thanks!
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>>4516352

It seems there is going to be a currency to pull for characters.
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So it turns out the MCs are actually separate characters who are brother and sister and the one that you didn't select is dead at the start of the game.

It's safe to say that at this point, the female is the canon protagonist.
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>>4516642
It is definitely not safe to say that at all, but it is nice that she at least gets the spotlight in the promo material. More people will play male MC as usual though and if they ever do anything shipbaity with the protagonist and any girls, male MC will be used to highlight it. Never hope for more.
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>>4516647

People think it's going to be like Wise and Belle, but I see it more of like Kassandra and Alexios from Assassin Creed's odyssey where the roles are assigned whoever you pick.
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>>4516642
I think the male mc was a last minute decision, he's not even available to pick in the cbt.
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>>4516654
I think the male Detective was shown on the official site back when the first trailer dropped 6-7 months ago with the same description as feMC, though she was always listed first and he's never been seen outside of artwork. So it's possible they only decided to make him playable shortly before that. It does give me some hope that male MC will continue to be treated like an afterthought.
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>>4516652
With Kassandra and Alexios, whoever you don't pick becomes the antagonist though. Here the sibling is just straight up dead. So it doesn't even feel like there was much point to having them be siblings. I guess there could by some personal character backstory boost by having the tragic dead family trope, but that's about it.

I'm more interested to know how much of an actual character Detective is. I already despite that she doesn't have a real name. That is always a bad sign. I don't want self-inserts. I want real protagonists like Kayamori Ruka or Vertin.
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Is Silver Palace made by a chink company? I can't figure out who this Silver Studio is. If it's chink, there is no way it will actually have real yuri. They would go the Mihoyo route.
But I doubt Japan actually made this kind of game in this day and age.
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>>4516659

He's definitely getting the Ananta treatment. There was a recent artwork that featured him, Femc, and Alf, but he was more in the background while Femc was the center of attention.
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>>4516664

Yes it is.
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>>4516667
Time to give up then.
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>>4516642
>first spoiler
Yeah, I won't be tuning into this. After the shitshow that is ZZZ, I'm not touching another one with dual protagonists. Even if the FeMC is prominently shown in everything, I just know they're going to pull some bullshit or make the other sibling central to the overarching plot
>second spoiler
Look at the setting and theme this gacha has. No way in hell that's staying true.

Well, there goes any excitement I had for this. Love the music though
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>>4516663
As far as names are concerned, seeing as the male Detective's name defaults to "Hugin" when asked to enter one in-game, the female MC's canon name is probably Munin. Of course, every character just calls her Detective anyway.

I'm not done with the main story yet, but I would say Detective is more than a blank slate. She doesn't have amnesia, for one, and is portrayed as confident, intelligent, somewhat standoffish and guarded, and surprisingly not afraid to get her hands dirty and bend the rules when she needs to (like beating up a thug to an inch of his life during an interrogation or breaking into a constabulary station to retrieve evidence). I wouldn't say she's a very deep character so far, but there's a decent foundation to build off of in the future.
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>>4516682
There is not even a hint of them becoming dual protagonists. That is actively the opposite of what they are going for.
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If I can't get Schneider, then I'll settle for the dancer chick in Silver Palace.
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>>4516682
zzz running out of ideas like star rail and going to mini china lmfao
girls frontline thread fucking where?
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>>4516642
What game, sounds very dumb and a case of devs too scared of losing a couple cents from another audience
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>>4516893

Silver Palace
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Spoonfeed me on Arknights Endfield please. I saw fem mc choice and did preregister. Anything worthwhile known yet?
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>>4516874
>>4516941
Neither of those gachas is yuri.
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>>4516941
Game-related info is coming out in less than 24hrs with the Special Program. And apparently the gacha system is trash? If you're looking for yuri subtext info, there's none atm.
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Read some posts that supposedly there were leaks from Ananta including FeMC but no one wants to post them because some accounts got warned or suspended for posting leaks (probably because it’s all stuff under NDA from closed beta)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN80M6IEMo0

It's such a low bar, but I love Endfield's approach in showing the Endmin in all the promos up until now. Male or female, it truly does feel like they're one and the same.
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>>4516682
>After the shitshow that is ZZZ
Out of curiosity: what happened? I haven't touched anything hoyoshit since HI3 turnaround
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>>4517339
The simblings started as being equal in their mc's role but later they started to pander more to the brother to the point the sister started to act like his wingman.
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>>4517343
So it's not even the case when male mc fucks off faraway and for long? Constantly present from the start? Wtf, disgusting
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>>4517328
>male and female being the same is considered a good thing
How low gachafags have fallen.
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>>4517375
>It's such a low bar
Reading comprehension thrown out the window

>>4517347
I remember at the start of the game all you'd hear is Wise talking majority of the time in the story when you picked Belle, but they're somewhat better about that now
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>>4517382
Nothing is better. The retarded male is the focus all the time and all girls are fawning over him. Get out of here.
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>>4517393
Not true if you're talking strictly about in-game, as that anon clearly was. Pre-1.4 had issues with Wise doing a lot of in-dungeon talking despite Belle being the main character, and I have to imagine vice versa if you picked W*se for some reason. Recent patches have made Belle much more talkative during story missions. Furthermore, in-game, the girls all fawn over the sibling you chose and barely acknowledge the other one. >>4517343 is only right if you're talking about the animated trailers and Ye Shunguang's marketing in particular.

In any case, there's a whole different thread dedicated to bitching about Hoyo games, so take this shit there.
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>>4517339
>since HI3 turnaround
What turnaround? It's as gay as it's ever been
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>>4517434
How gay is it since mihoyo is now the biggest name in skinner boxes?
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>>4517441
Mihoyo being big doesn't affect its smaller projects. gun girlz and hi3 still gets to be gay.
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>>4517448
Great, so how gay is it since mihoyo is now the biggest name in skinner boxes?
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>>4517452
Like I said as gay as it's ever been

We've got dating sim date, kabedons, handholding on a beach with a romantic sunset in the background, the durarita dance, and lots more
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>>4517598
So all subtext. Then what about them literally breaking up the only excplicit couples they had and changing storylines to avoid getting close to any other explicit yuri? You know, the turnaround?
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>>4517629
The things that you made up in your head? I'm sorry but I can't explain that one.
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>>4517642
There isn't a single explicit yuri couple left. Should be easy for you to disprove if it's all in my imagination.
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>>4517629
>Then what about things that didn't happen
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It's quite impressive that Endfield has managed to have 0 (zero) yuri ships on launch, not counting the MC. The original Arknights had like a dozen different ships on launch and was getting a constant influx of yuri fanart.
They're definitely going in a different direction for this game.
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I'm so tired of gachas with dual mcs. That's not yuri. Only Heaven Burns Red belongs here and maybe r1999. Not Hoyo slop and games trying to be Hoyo slop.
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>>4518028
Yeah, there was also a canon Lesbian operator which was neat. Honestly, with their track record, I'm not too worried about the non-existent yuri ships at launch
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>>4518075

I don't mind dual MCs. I always choose female over male no matter what.

Hopefully I'll get into the 2nd CBT of Silver Palace. Red Rose definitely gives off Schneider vibe.
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>>4518075
Eh, I get your point but I don't really care what other people do. I will continue to pick fem mc and whatever happens in my game is canon, simple as. As you said though there aren't enough pure yuri gachas, but it's just not profitable enough for shareholders I suppose? HBR is nice atleast, didn't really have enough free time to also try 1999
>>4518100
Here's hoping that trend continues
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>>4516347
One month.
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https://youtu.be/rcMRS08aZx0?si=pc_2LNQ-a7UW4ryb
Wuwa had a event with a bunch of fan animation,Carmellya is the favorite for female Rover
There is another with her four timing a date too
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>>4518028
It's because these games now prioritize Master Love and the male mc will keep it from having real yuri. This is the problem with mainstream Chinese games now, they need to pander to incels who hate yuri. There's smaller games that have yuri but no one wants to play them because "muh open world".

>>4518209
No one cares who you pick, just stop acting like these games are for yuri and that people have to like them because you need to always play the most popular shit. Slop like Wuwa shouldn't even be here considering how they treat yuri fans. Fuck gacha and people trying to gaslight that its "pure yuri" when these games keep making things only for the male mc and create the type of fanbase that's hostile to yuri. This board is so strict about other things but when it comes to gachaslop you want us to be baited by yuri hating ML schizo incels.
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>>4518075
Honkai 3rd though
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After endfield comes out i'm finally gonna be free from zzz, after the shit they pulled with astra and the new girl it was better to just drop it now before they do it again (which they will) also i like how wuwa and endfield treat their femc unlike hoyoshit
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>>4518379
Just stop playing all of these non-yuri gacha. You act like you are somehow held at gunpoint to play this shit.
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>>4518382
Some people are just idiots. There's nothing wrong playing ZZZ, also if you like /u/ stuff, but getting asshurt and then going to other games that aren't in any way different is just some weird ass mental issues.

They head canon themselves shit they don't like, get angry by themselves, go to the next game where they repeat this, until the end of days. Not just something I see here.
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>>4518383
>there's nothing wrong with playing ZZZ
Except for its utter lack of yuri. Even shit like Uma Musume is more relevant as long as you play a female trainer.
Gachafags are always wasting their time if they want yuri. There are actual yuri games out there to play... but those mostly cost money. The real reason you losers move from bad non-yuri gacha to bad non-yuri gacha is because they are free.
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>>4518388
>Except for its utter lack of yuri
Lol. I won't even bother responding any further.

>>4518209
I really like the story and EN voice acting in R1999, but I can't get past the gameplay.

>>4518379
Same, mostly 'cause I like only playing one gacha at a time and the story is a real letdown. Honestly, everything's been a letdown for this game. Kind of amazing the fantasy China region for all three Hoyo games suck.
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>>4518455
You can pretend to laugh, you can hide from reality all you want. Your shitty chink gachas dont have actual yuri all the same.
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>>4518455
>I really like the story and EN voice acting in R1999, but I can't get past the gameplay
Play HI3rd sis. Not only is the yuri there more plentiful than in ZZZ, the smaller cast allows it to have more depth
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>>4518502
Was there ever a gacha that had genuine yuri and not just everyone being MC-sexual? Towatsugai?
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>>4518557
hi3rd, r1999 and HBR. Madoka maybe? Don't quote me on that. I recall arknights having yuri couples too
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>>4518558
>Madoka maybe?
It had a canon lesbian couple since the Magia Record game.
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>>4518557
TowaTsugai was definitely the best one for yuri. Well the Yusha Yuuna gacha also existed for a while.
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