>I want to play this RPG as a human warrior!No problem ;)
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Is Darkvision the new pattern recognition?
>>739299728>roleplay as black guy>INT minimum>say Ooga boogaProblem?
>>739300704>gets kicked out from the tableNobody likes self insert characters
Whys is this character in every modern western media?
>>739299728The fuck is this homo guidebook? Fantasy adventures of gerbals?
>>739301463this is what middle managers force devs to put in to be as sterile as possible as not to draw any controversy that would result in them losing their cushy job. Essentially, the moment a company gets large enough to even have middle managers aka useless cunts they will do everything in their power to secure their position even if it means making everything as sterile or bland as flour.
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>>739299728why is every character brown and why is the orc a dyke
How am i supposed to express my creativity and uniqueness if there are no tieflings?
>>739299728Ass-imar>mutt with fucked up earshape and somehow sight problems enough to need glasses despite literal divinity geneticsDragonborn>looks like a fucking desert lizard you'd see basking on a rock, instead of a literal dragon on two legsDwarf>looks like a mediterranean/turkish fisher with a homo bandana, completely unfitting to established dwarf cultureElf>looks like an average human peasant mother aside from the jewellery - not a speck of "ethereal beauty" that elves are known forGnome>literally generic modern tools mechanic outfit aside from the retarded hat and goggles. Had to make it gray skinned because god forbid you have something white skinnedGoliath>NGL I don't even know what culture or race this is supposed to beHalfling>Literal jeet or somethingHuman>self-explanatoryOrc (NOT EVEN HALF-ORC, MIND YOU)>Disgusting modern dyke aesthetic, and a face of an asian with tusks - naturally had to be subversive again and give it gray skin instead of more greenish or olive-ishIt's so tiresome, why can't these peiople make up NEW races instead of ruining old ones?
>>739299728>fantasy races>the changes between them are completely cosmetic>literally no cultural or behavioral differences between groupsI hate progressive leftist retcons and interpretations in media.
>>739301601The lefty tumblr artists themselves are in to this. No middle manager was required to push this on them.
>>739299728Hang leftshits.
>>739301751Orcs are Mexicans now according to modern Dungeons and Dragons.Why? I don't know.
>>739303650we need less of that and more pig orcs
>>739303650>>739304069Only white men are allowed to be evil anymoe.Everyone else must be wholesome and heckin valid
>>739303650they have lost the plot.
>>739304195You have no fucking idea. The dwarf guy up there? The baker here is his gay husband, and they have tattoos of each other's beards.
>>739299728>Humans don't get adrenaline rush
>>739303650>Orcs are mexicansIronically, this sounds kinda racist torwards mexicans.
>>739304365This is why you gatekeep your hobbies
>>739304069Any more of these but with other monsters? This is cool as shit.
Genuinely, what happened? Is it because of youtubers/streamers getting into DND?
>>739299728None of these characters look like they have ever held a weapon or are even capable of going on an adventure. They look tailor made for socially inept nerds to hang out with other socially inept nerds and pretend they're in a different place hanging out, except one is a cat girl and another is a bearded midget. Slice of life sessions are cancer, no, I didn't join a game to sit around drinking "mead" while discussiong the socio-economic situation of the local farmer's market.
>>739304365I know the intent behind this but how do you explain this in universe? How can dwarves and elves have the same races as human beings? How does that work? There's no consistency. Also I love how the black woman and asian woman are doing the men's work and the guy with bigger muscles is in a supportive role. White dwarf bringing in bread lmao
>>739304365>tattoos of each other's beardsjesus fucking christ, even fags aren't that gay
>>739299728Oh, I recognize that black phenotype.
id never trust a person that picks a human in a game with many weird races. shows lack of creativity, humor and vibes. also those who try to make that human look like themselves are clearly fucking evil psychopaths irl
>>739303650Lefties think fantasy orcs are analogues for black people so depicting them as violent and barbaric is heckin problematic or something like that. Which is why they need to make them wholesome chungus mexicans.
>>739299728I can make a more than 50% likely guess about the gender for maybe three of these things.
>>739299728>/v/>pictures of the print version of the DND player's handbookgo outrage farm (you)s on /tg/ you utter faggot
>>739299728is her torso installed incorrectly?looks like the arm is pointing in the wrong direction
>>739303650>Why? I don't know.It's because the retards at WOTC saw a correlation between orcs and black people. They're scared of being raciys after the whole Hadozee space monkey controversy, so they're extra careful now.>>739304531It would be but Orcs are no longer evil savages, they're wholesome chungus family-oriented travelers. If you think any of this is bad, don't ever look at what Pathfinder 2nd edition cooked up. There's a reason Owlcat never touched that shit and moved on to greener pastures lmao.
>>739299728>no half-orc optionHow am I supposed to imply one of my parents was raped without saying it now?
>>739303650>Stupid, loud, violent, stinky, occupy land like parasites, eat shit, can't talk human language, don't want to civilize themselves.Hm sounds accurate to me.
Videogames?Videogames?Videogames?
>>739306680Stop nooticing.AI is the future.
>>739306680Yeah, the whole picture is absolutely fucked.
>>739299728>play a game where one's imagination is the limit>characters have the potential to be as varied as any person could concieve>/v/ is upset yet again that every race in a fantasy setting isn't just a buff white guy with 1% different features >"Nooo noo it's literally genocide dajuuuuuz I'm being replaced AIEEEE"The only thing I can't imagine is living my entire life terrified of colors and anything even remotely different than myself.
>>739307397what a repulsive art style
>Bartender reccomends DnD group at library>Sweet, Ima be a halfling wizard>Go, it's just a bunch of kids/teens>LeaveI really don't know where to find adults that play this outside of like discord. From my experience in MMOs people tend to take you more serious as a human male or other large race, just like real life
>>739307397>nog elf and and drow side by side>green asian ginger elfSurreal. Absolutely surreal.
>>739299728left to right, top to bottom>human>human wearing bad cosplay>human>human wearing bad cosplay>cartoon human>human wearing bad cosplay>human>nigger>human wearing bad cosplay
>>739303650Correcto
>>739301601>this is what middle managers force devs to put in to be as sterile as possible as not to draw any controversyAre you retarded? Ugly dykes in place of what should be the literal giganigga equivalent is the opposite sterility to avoid controversy. Not to mention it's right by the obvious bait of making the default mc race black.
>>739307397I never thought I would ever say this, but I miss beautiful right-wing elves
>>739304365>>739303650>>739305017This aesthetic makes my blood boil it's so ugly.
>>739305017>Genuinely, what happened?Same thing that happened to any other form of entertainment: the best short term strategy of the 10s was to accept propaganda agendas to use controversy and eased funding to mask all kinds of shenanigans, contextually risk free.>but that's a brand killerNot within the expected time of employment of whoever pushed for it.
>>739301834God I hate tieflings for meta reasons like this.
>>739307481>I really don't know where to find adults that play thisYou play it with friends, anon.
>>739307135>im half mexicanok... cool I guess
>>739307481underageb& still plays DnD? I thought its just insufferable millenials who still play.
>>739299728>fantasy game>everyone is uglyFor what purpose?
>>739301463Orcs are stand-ins for the 'oppressed minority' with modern developers. Since white males are the only ones who can be unequivocally evil in their worldview, efforts are being made to reinvent Orcs as simply misunderstood. This is also being done with many other traditional 'villains' across media who aren't white males, to reinforce the narrative that non-white 'villain' irl are all simply misunderstood or oppressed and we really shouldn't hold it against them when they loot, rape, murder, and otherwise act like uncivilized barbarians.
>>739305017Nothing. /v/tards just can't use their imaginations so they look up pictures of wheelchair tieflings and get upset because now they can't play as a white klan member who owns a slave plantation of orcs. Oh wait, you can just play the game however you want. It's almost like your imagination is what dictates what's possible.
>>739307896it's the leftist fantasy. a world were everyone is as ugly as them.
>>739307475For sure. It gets even worse in the Monster Manual, because you can tell WOTC actually shelled out money for good art. You'll see something that looks really cool and well done and the next page you're hit with fucking this abomination.DND hasn't had cohesive art in its core books since like 2e though, so it's nothing new, but this "art" is so repulsive it makes the shitty or unintentionally hilarious drawings from previous editions look like high art.
>>739307896it's the rightist fantasy. a world where there's someone to persecute for traits they were born with despite being 99% ugly virgins themselves.
>>739299728idk if you guys realize this but in dnd, you make your own character. you don't actually have to be a black person if you don't want to be. what the example character looks like in the rulebook is completely irrelevant to what your character can look likei recommend taking a deep breath. try not to seethe about something for once in your life, it'll do wonders for your health.
>>739307416Yeah what the heck. Why don't these CHUDS want to play all these cool colorful characters like in the art being posted itt. It's a real mystery.
>>739299728>human >not being whiteVERY accurate and VERY based. humanity should represent the masses, not the asses.
>>739308152>avert your eyes! >it doesn't matter that all the rulebooks and marketing are sanitized corpo slop!>you can just use make believe!thanks for the info, bro.
>>739299728yikes...I dont know what art style is this, but it's gay as fuck.
>>739308003Man, what is it with liberals and vitiligo?
>>739307475it's seriously hideous at every turnwho likes this? does anybody genuinely like this beyond the "haha it pisses off the chuds" spite?
>>739308278>>you can just use make believe!yes, that's what dnd is
>>739301187Kek
Funny.
I still vividly remember laughing about how bad some of the art was when 2014 released, lots of good threads on /tg/ back then. If only we knew how good we had it...
>>739308307easiest DEI points, it's basically the free space on a bingo card
>>739307896Leftists ruin everything example number 592,746,825
>>739308069correct. it is well known that people who play d&d run genocide campaigns against entire races. this is the reason why leftists started to say orcs=black, and therefore orcs cannot be evil anymore, to spite the racists. keep the flag flying, comrade
>>739301187
>>739308003I used to dislike the comic book style of 4e but it looks like renaissance art compared to d&d 2024
>>739301834At least post the entire comic.
>>739308003Why is everyone laughing, what's the fucking point of even playing this, where the conflict, the drama, struggle? The ratty heroes planning a raid on a dungeon in a seedy tavern while a suspicious figure watches them from another table, now it's 101% "diverse" people walking the streets and laughing like morons.What fucking lame world we live in..
when do mindflayers get to be rebranded as misunderstood wholesome brown/blacks ?
>>739299728>not a single player character image looks coolamazing. I always dreamed about playing a ugly twink in my fantastical, larger than life adventure.
>>739308351They why did the need to add all that corposlop in the first place? Couldn't they just imagine it in their heads instead?
>>739301834The armor stays on.
>>739302987In the attempts to "rehabilitate" them, Orcs have somehow got it the worst in modern D&D because industry decided there can't be evil races.
>>739307416Schizobabble or bot post take your pick
>>739308598Turn over, only missionary is a LG position.
>>739301601wrong. The dyke artists who draw these characters look exactly like this
>>739308003I hate how even good pieces are still infected with modern day woke bullshit.
>>739308629imagine these fucks having to face down an actual orc
>>739308190Just don't play as colorful characters. No one is forcing you. I know it's hard to think past the racism though.
>>739308557Makes me wonder if the people who enjoy this even roleplay battles and wars and shit like that or if they just play fantasy dollhouse with their gay black elf husband.
>>739308786Yes. All this shit is ultimately moot because tabletop is one of those hobbies that exists on table-by-table basis. There are groups still playing AD&D and having a great time, for example. You don't NEED the latest anything since you're not really buying a finished product so much as a toolset you then use to create your games.
>>739308775>just ignore the propaganda piece, dude>yes, they will shit out more of it>but just buy it anyways, ok?>you can just look away>while they continue to poison more minds with their blightNo
>>739307939there's nothing imaginative or creative about POCs with wheel chairs with dyke cuts
>>739308775or just don't put them in the game
>>739299728Diversity is humanity's strength, chud
>>739308775>STOP. LAUGHING. AT. THE. BAD. ART.
>>739309041how
>>739308512Yep, was a HUGE hater of Wayne Renolds as well. Used to get into arguments online about how his style was trash, but now? Bring me the fuck back.
>>739309041Diversity of ideas, yes.
>>739308512I'm just glad they're not touching Dark Sun for 5E. Planescape wasn't so lucky.
>>739308598Imagine the lovemaking noises
>>739300704Giga Nigga The Bar Bar IanFlies into a rage at the smallest thingTakes things without asking because he doesn't understand currencyDoesn't know what a book isTries to fuck anything that moves
I still remember how my bros were laughing at how goofy some of the old art was back in the day.i'll take the goofy art, please stop force feeding us this faggot corporate shit.
>>7393092265e is so fucking weird. it reeks of desperation with all the third-party settings.
>>739308936>paying for role playing games
>>739309041The strongest nations in the entirety of human history were built by single race civilizations, thoughbeit
>>739303135Those appear to be brief descriptions, but they do list different traits there, do they not?
>>739304805Gatekeeping is useless if people who create your hobby going woke.
>>739309547like anon said this is not how tabletop works. problem is people think they need to buy the latest thing because it's the latest thing. and then your books rot on a shelf because you never play those games. it's kinda like steam library, but more expensive.
>>739308512As bad as 4e art is, at least it still brought the cake.
>>739302987Also the Aasimar has the fucking broccoli haircut.
>>739308727>1 black person exists>woke bullshitOof, how do you function? Are you Hulkmaxxing?
>>739304805>Fantasy is so irrelevant it doesn't even goes under the eye of the woke agenda.Meanwhile 40k.
>>739309663all mutts in western fiction have that haircut.
>>739309663>zoomers complain how they're poor>have a hairstyle that requires weekly maintenance
>>739307338this thread is staying up, troon
>>739309790Im ok with that. I like fantasy more.
>>739309626>problem is people think they need to buy the latest thing because it's the latest thing.No, the problem are secondaries who are living vicariously through podcasts and live plays thinking either represent the hobby fairly.
>>739309790You must've missed TOW bullshit.
>>739309657I often defended 4e's art based on huge dwarf lady tits. I knew history would vindicate me.
>>739309707is it really just a black person existing mr. redditor?
>>739299728Just homebrew nigga
>>739299728Repulsive artstyle, you can see the tumblr roots
>>739299840WUZ
>>739304365why the are so clean????? dwarfs need to be ugly and dirty as fuck
>>739310029Made for mating press and tight hugging.
>>739310156PayPal, Facebook, Tumblr, TwitterThe four horse riders of the enshittified internet.
>>739304365>and they have tattoos of each other's beardswhy do people put up with this shit man.also that white dwarf's face looks a bit too real, like some dev put his own face on there.
>>739305017all plagues of modern DND can be traced back to critical eole
>>739299728>it should be popular because we intentionally illustrated them as the race our target audience hatesimagine mr bean marketing to ghetto niggers
>>739305017Why would a disabled and limited person fantasize about being a disabled and limited person in an RPG?
>>739304531It is.Everyone:>Orcs are orcs.These fucks:>Noooo orcs are black people! They are black stereotypes by being orcs, can't you see it??!>Wait, I know! Let's make them super obvious racist mexican stereotypes! Pffuhh, we did it, racism is no more!It's a neat little view into the bizarre minds of pseudo-progressives who keep telling on themselves in the most obvious ways, but because it is also only pseudo-progressives who would flip their shit over such perceptions, they get to pat each other on the back for a job well-done and morals restored, when it is now way worse than in the beginning.
>>739309292I'm officially too far gone because freddy fazbear popped into my head
>>739307397>interracial couple of a drow and a high elfthat is genuine heresy
>>739302987>It's so tiresome, why can't these peiople make up NEW races instead of ruining old ones?I don't think that would be a good idea either until you replace everyone working there.Look at Blizzard, a similarly lame, brown and gay company. World of Warcraft devs when they aren't ruining their old races or copypasting/recoloring them they occasionally add something new like pic related or other furfag bait. I would expect the creatures in this company to shit out something similar
>>739299728vgh i've always wanted to play as a distant descendant of a giant and a cousin-twice-removed-quarter-orc
>>739310662Or to illustrate it as videogames: the hiphop and watermelons for Yosukes game as he mows down nativesIts funny because the more you look into it, the worse this shit gets when it comes to "representation"
>>739304365>hey babe i wanna try a different style for my beard>nuh uh, i have the tattoo already, what if you get lost at the supermarket?
>>739299728>"We gotta do something to fix YOUR racism by including more black representation!">art is ugly as possible hood tier black stereotypeWhy do they always do this?
>>739305410It only makes sense in Tolkiens version where they were made as an attempt to copy gods creation of manAnd even then he made it set on a basically fictional europe so only whites
>>739299728why are halflings just outright pedos?
>>739310951Because they made the mistake of actually hiring niggers and interacting with them all day so they have to be realistic and can't just put a human in their skin or the hr will be on their ass
>>739304365>Think the dwarf from the OP looks a little zesty for a dwarf>Chalk it up to the shit art style making even dwarfs look lame>It's somehow gayer than gay sexDude, who the fuck even plays D&D anymore?
>>739310739The scalies are a total flop, by very far the least played race. You see, in wow you live and die by the gear you can put on your character and show it to everybody, it's invisible on those dragon things
>>739299728If you were black, wouldn't you be upset at them always depicting you as ugly like this?
>>739310951>progressive faggot decides we need more blacks in media>makes the ugliest hood rat mother fucker to have ever live their baseline>add this baseline to every single race in gamewhy do elves, orcs, dwarves, gnomes and giantkin need ugly black stereotypes?
>>739310662ExactlyFor fuck sake if you really have to make them based off existing cultures just make them MongolsIts a respectable warrior culture, theyre not savages, theyre nomads It maintains the semi tribal aesthetic and most importantly IT HAS DIGNITY
>>739311297There are... superior alternatives for furbait. I will forever be salty about them Disneyfying the Tauren, much preferred their old look.
>>739311297Worse than those fucking diaper mecha gnomes? Damn.
>>739299728>never allowed to play as a walking slime creature>almost never allowed to play as robots>almost never allowed to play as undead>cats dogs rabbits dragons and foxes make up the vast majority of beastmen never different animals than those>always have to play a character with a huhuman skeleton, no centaurs no arachnes>elves are always humans with pointy ears no matter their origin never lean towards fairy roots or actual ethereal beauty
>>739301463Glad to see that Orcs can keep their fades fresh after a long day of rape, pillage, and murder
>>739311265faggots and theater kids, witch is just another word for faggots
>>739311562orcs don't do that anymore, they are vegans that shop at whole foods.
>>739299728sucks to your aasimar
>>739311297All they had to do was give people the cool big dragon people that already existed and people actually wanted, but no, as with the gnome example from the other anon, the earthern dwarves (we got women with beards lmao), vrykul (we go fat humans lmao) blizzard would rather ignore their playerbase.
>>739309992I don't know why that cover evokes cringe energy
>>739301463oh hey, Randy Random
Didn't they turn Ravenloft into Harry Potter for faggots as well at some point?
>>739299728>GoliathWhy do "descendents of giants" always get smaller instead of bigger?
>>739311518Pathfinder 2 has what you're looking for. Even has a spider race that's just big, intellegent, spider.
>>739312361Pathfinder sucks shit though
>>739312215Because of racemixing.
>>739311947>Harry Potter for faggotsSo just regular Harry Potter then?
>>739312597Why not mix with bigger races? That still doesn't make any sense
>>739312534Really? I thought 2 debloated 1 in a pretty decent way that still left a lot of good build variety open to the players. It does suffer from being a little more combat focused if you like running social or puzzle options, but as a dungeon crawler I think it's in a pretty great space. Unless you're talking about lore/setting, I've just fully ignored that half and can't comment.
>>739301463Better question is why did they make orcs into spics?
>>739308383Did he just give up and let her put that cup on his head?
>>739313051why this made me LMAO
>>739299728the first time i played DnD, it actually stopped me from playing human and i decided to play a dwarf instead
>>739303650Grabogug Jose Francisco de la Rosa de Guadalupe Fernando Gerardo de la Cruz Facesmasher Bloodfist
>>739311729>instead of broken we get draenei with gold highlights
>>739313182I mean, if they had names like that, and still looked like actual orcs just in marachi or vaquero outfits, I'd be on board. That sounds kinda cool.
>>739312745The combat in Pathfinder has always revolved around a heavy reliance on build optimization (which is basically just disguising the fact that there are only one or two builds per class hidden amongst 20 bait builds that will never work) and literal luck. "You just got fucked by the dice" is an overwhelmingly accepted element of the combat. It's Stockholm syndrome.
>>739311708Lol, I got that reference
Why do people hate Tieflings so much?
>>739309305Now now, its supposed to be fantasy.
>>739314000Oversaturation of edge-lord archetype.
>>739313632Uhhh nta but I think you're confusing the editions, 2e has a lot of build versatility without trap options, as long as you're focusing on your main attributes it's hard to fuck up a 2e character.The system itself is enjoyable, it's just a shame they're actively raping their lore and setting because over 70% of Paizo's workforce is a mentally ill freak.
>>739314189>edgelordHalf Elves are the edgelords.
>>739312940Consider what demographic stands to gain the most from illegal immigrant workers and you quickly realize they have simply given up on trying to train the nigs to instead focus entirly on spics as penny labor while dipping into jeet poo crusted waters on the side.
>>739314189>edge-lord tieflingis this a boomer thing? I've only seen gay/trans tieflings and badly ageing quirky white women tieflings.
When exactly did D&D art go down the shitter, and why? I'm only familiar with D&D secondarily through my few hours with BG3. The game was too flashy, diverse, horny, theatre kid quirky, and cartoonish for me to take its setting seriously. A far cry from the dark, bizarre, Tolkien-esque fantasy I imagined D&D to be.
>>739314189what about a wizard tiefling who is chill but got turned into a tiefling for diving in to the hells for spell research and then got dommed by a female devil and had to escape for his life
>>739314362>When exactly did D&D art go down the shitter, and why?Two words: Critical Role
>>739314362dnd was never tolkenesque and was always flashy, diverse, horny, theatre kid quirky, and cartoonish
>>739314000I can't speak for others but for me it's the fact that they were humanoids with fiendish attributes in 2e, which could sometimes manifest in negative ways. It could potentially create an incredibly interesting character with flaws if you rolled poorly.Now they're just... humans with horns and tails and colored skin.
>human but... isnt a human, okay?>furry>human but short>human but tell>human but short>human but tall>human but short>HUMAN!!! :DDD>human but tallEpic.
>>739306947>they're wholesome chungus family-oriented travelers.That's why it's offensive.
>>739314362DnD is whatever you want it to be. It can be grimdark or just some light fun.Mostly its the latter because when you play with friends, they all want to have a good time. And that includes doing dumb shit
>>739314362The old greats got old and/or died and the younger generation of artists grew up on flat simplistic nickelodeon cartoons or (for the better ones) anime. They then went to tumblr and incubated for some years with each other creating that unbearable tumblr style which sort of seeped into everything.
>>739314417Don't bring your fetishes into DnD
>>7393141911e is DEFINITELY worse, so I wholly agree with you, but think 2e recovers enough to be "good" is definitely the aforementioned Stockholm syndrome.I mean it doesn't really matter though. If you know the system well enough to navigate all the gameplay systems without thinking a ton about it, then go for it. Like if it's fun for you, that's all it has to be
>>739314362At first it was 4e -- not a bad system, but they broke away from what dnd is to try and capture the WoW audience. This has been confirmed by Mike Mearls who led it.5e started off fine -- a simplified 3e, back to roots, etc -- but then Critical Role started gaining traction and all the insufferable theater kids started playing. Shortly after the troon mental illness started taking hold of guys who would be grognards in another era and DND was basically cooked from there on out.
>>739314319That's because they were oversaturated. They were originally specific to Planescape, the occasional demonspawn that popped up. But then everyone wanted to be one and they had to be flooded into every world to accommodate them. >>739314236Blame Tanis for popularizing them..
>>739314590he was killed and then reincarnated in a sexy female tiefling body and forced to take devil futa cock for years now he is trying to turn back into a man and regain some diginity but devil futa henchwoman are still after him hiding behind every corner trying to fuck his female tiefling tight pussy once again
>>739314613Oh I never meant to imply that 2e was good. It's a fun system but it's certainly not good. I've just never experienced a badly built character in the way I have while running 1e, you can kind of go full retard but as long as your attributes align to your class you'll contribute well enough due to the way the system is designed. I'm sure you can still mess up bad I've just never experienced it, even when playing with brand new players.
>>739314727Was Tanis edgy? I would have guessed Raistlin, but I never really got into Dragonlance outside of the first few books.
2e is the only real dnd
>>739314000They were supposed to be an incredibly rare neat race, but since they became retardedly popular with edgy teens and tumblerinas, now every D&D adventuring party needs 3 of them and they're everywhere in games. I was downright sick of tieflings by the time I got through BG3, for example.
>>739301834>>739307790>>739308538Absolutely this. Tieflings used to be cool, back when they were supposed to be super rare, until they started to become le default edgy race.
>>739313339Original Draenei were so fucking cool
>>739307397>>739308003>>739303650>>739304365This whole artstyle just screams modern corposlop. This doesn't get you hyped up to play as a cool D&D character fighting dragons and going on adventures, this is for sitting around a table talking about feelings and HR policies.
>>739304365What I dislike the most about this shit is that there's like no actual conflict, everything is a happy perfect society, except for the one group of people they add that are the dedicated evil group.I know this stuff is made for people who get anxiety attacks from checking the mailbox, but christ almighty.Fucking awful worldbuilding, you're telling me all these groups of people were never at war with eachother and just perfectly get fine together?Even makes the band of mercenaries from totally different backgrounds feel so much less special too.
>>739308538based qthope she's not ruined by being a lesbian or some shit
>>739312745PF2e shits on spellcasting classes pretty hard, they're now unfun and only exist to support the Fighter (the mvp.) It's like playing a healer in a multiplayer game, only your class fantasy was supposed to be about arcane might and not being the fighter's ballwasher.
>>739314613Not saying this in an antoginistic way, but do you have some reccomendations for good systems with some depth to character building? To much of the new stuff I've been trying is very loose with the rules and more focused on the role play stuff. Best I can think of is Fabula Ultima for just being a Final Fantasy job system.
>>739315602Just be a Magus instead, dipshit.
>>739314948He wasn't so much edgy as tormented. But he made the conflicted half-elf mainstream which morphed into edginess when nerds who couldn't even conceive of the problem of having to decide between two hotties lusting for your dick got ahold of them.
>>739315675GURPS
>>739315602there's an easy solution here: just play homebrew with stronger mage classes, there's plenty out there
>>739315103makes me want to play an oath of vengeance flagellant tiefling
>>739315103I've been Dming (3.5 and then Pathfinder) for the last 15 years. I don't think I had a tiefling character once in any game I was a part of.
Can't wait for my solar punk wholesome chungus tabletop system where you don't actually fight, you just RP your struggle sessions of denazyfying conservatives and anyone that dares to do a wrongthink.
>>739315742
>>739316034>princess of the queefesti
>>739315929It's because modern Tieflings didn't turn into what they are today until DND 4th edition, when their appearance stopped being so varied (explained in universe due to Asmodeus' ascension or whatever). Same reason you probably never had Dragonborn either -- they were very different until 4e.
>>739309385>Rollicking campus adventuresYou just fucking know they would love to write "frolicking"
>>739316093
>>739314515>Human but red>human but short>human with tail>human with hornsWhat is it with lefties and trying to make all fantasy races be only superficially different? They write them in ways so that they all behave and think like modern day west coast urbanites.
>>739315675BRPUses D100. There are also decent complete systems (Runequest, Call of Cthulhu, Pendragon, Age of Vikings, Magic World, etc.) that use is if you don't want to build your own setting and rule variations.
>>739316034>artist: mike perry My favorite black king... I kneelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlsOukPW80
>>739316182>Celebrate diversity!>WTF WE'RE ALL THE SAME!!They don't even know what they want.
>>739299728I randomly decided to watch a MTG Arena tourney on Youtube the other day as background noise and the commentator's voice made me check the video to see it was some literal jeet tranny that works for WoTC as a designer for the game.
>>739316334It's almost like they're mentally ill or something.
>>739309226They've already put out multiple Dark Sun Unearthed Arcana, it was slated for some kind of release as part of their upcoming "seasons" book schedule, probably mid 2027.
>>739314362D&D and all tabletop worlds spawning out of it was always flashy and horny just at different magnitudes.Case in point: Record of Lodoss War (which I recommend heavily for anyone who loves the older D&D aesthetic)As for diverse and theatre kid, that I think can be accredited to Critical Role, a (now) crazy popular group of voice actors who published their campaigns and Stranger Things, as these two things brought D&D into the mainstream from which the usual thing happened.Very loud people with big opinions started to skew the franchise into specific directions.
>>739304365>they have tattoos of each other's beardsI bet whoever designed that believed it was deep and romantic but it's just a shallow stereotype of dwarves and their dirty beards
>>739310217KANGS
>>739315829Or I can just keep playing 1e.
>>739315602While it is amusing to see the martial/caster disparity shoe on the other foot for once, it's still bad and they don't seem to have much interest in fixing it.>>739315697The 2e Magus is fucking terrible and I'm sick of people riding its dick because "yeah but what if you crit tho."
>>739310217WIZZADS
>>739316649>While it is amusing to see the martial/caster disparity shoe on the other foot for once, it's still badI agree, it's the classic over-correction problem. The solution was never to make being a caster suck, it was to make both martials and casters fun, which they have failed to do.
>>739316720
>>739299728What the fuck is wrong with that orc
>>739315468The bondage tiefling being played by a female and disparaging the lady knight for sexism implies that whoever is playing the lady knight is male
>>739299728thread themehttps://youtu.be/dVSjvh4vdpM?t=175
>every dnd race is niggersSo they finally scratched all classes but rogue
>>739317594That's a dumb reach bro. And after looking it up for just a few seconds I found you're wrong.
>>739299728Wow, how wholesome chungus.Why do millenials make everything limp wristed and gay? Is it embarrassment over being edgy teenagers?
>>739318354They can't visualize anything, even fantasy, without injecting themselves into it. If they're a flaming homo, they can't conceive as playing a Paladin unless that Paladin is also a flaming homo.
>>739317594is it gay or straight if a male character played by a female and female character played by a male date
>>739318607This is amazing. What can you do except laugh?
>>739318354>blaming everything of the vague specter of "millennials"This shit was designed by a boardroom of women.
>>739318607>shapeshift>still an invalidlmao
>>739299728>Modern RPG>Role play (as(s)) gay
>>739318607This is the creator of the combat wheelchair. Say something nice about... her? Him? Shall I call him mister?
I think it's time we started oppressing nonwhites again. They've gotten too uppity.
>>739318607>The combat wheelchair doesn't have hitpoints, it takes 3 consecutive crits in one fight to destroy it. The fuck? What's stopping me from taking this shit apart and using it to make armor that can wildshape with me?
>>739318880Call the fellas in white coats from the funny farm
>>739308003This image is why I hate DnD and think it needs a major rework overall.Even without the fagged up artstyle, look at it. Every single town in DnD is a freakshow like this, with weird shit everywhere. Even creatures from the planes all over the place, devil's being out and about. It's just aesthetically retarded.
>>739319104not in my setting
>>739319032UHH that's le heckin ABLISTDO BETTER
>>739318996>he's says, posting an image from a game made by nonwhites
>>739319032Uhhh... chuddy? Check your ableist bigotry.But seriously just make your "wheelchair" into likea bike and be a transformer or whatnot.
>>739319032>grapple the cripple>get them prone>friend hits them three times>leave them on the ground
>>739299728did they use AI on the elf because her left arm looks like it's backwards.
>>739319185Japs are honorary Aryans, nonwhite. And no, gooks are not included.
>>739318607any other fun shapes?
>>739319330No they aren't.
>dnd is northern medieval fantasy>a game for the thinking white man>old creators made the game huge>they retire and new suits take over>suits have never played dnd in their life>banks offer them free money for adding diversity>suits take the money and crash the company
>>739299728>ummmmm sweety, no race is known for their physical characteristics because that's racist, all humans are created completely equally by science
>>739316034>wearing chainmain ol top of your normal clothingIsn't the beauty of chainmail the fact that you can wear it under clothing and armor?The only thing that goes below chainmail is a gambeson and underwear
>>739318607As a cripple myself i can't even remotely imagine someone in my situation wanting to be a cripple even in a fantasy roleplay game. I mean... really?
>>739319246That's terrible action economy to just immobilize someone who might still be able to do something.
>>739319507>northern medieval fantasyIt's Western medieval fantasy, stupid scandifag
>>739319598It was created to make sure you gimps stay in your fucking place, even in your fantasies.
>>739319507It's funny that you pretend you know what you're talking about.
>>739319697Lol no because that's never happened in the history of rp till a basedboy white numale probably felt offended by something in his head.
>>739319690humiliation is its own rewardenjoy your 0 movespeed
>>739318607That's right, get back into the fucking wheelchair.
>>739308786>be me, minmaxing autist my nature>enjoy the combat part of D&D more than anything, so my characters always end up with barebones backstory but interesting class/background/perk combinations that let me do unique things in combat>always show up as "lizardman who just wandered in" while my friends are playing Professor Humpus Dumpus the Raccoon transmogrified into a man, some gay witch, etc.>Have nothing to add to the out-of-combat roleplaying parts which end up being most of the sessions>stop attending
>>739319598it's a feel good ideology because you'll sit in a table with other people and force them to bend over backward for your amusement
>>739308438It'll never not be funny how DEI turned implementing diversity into a soulless metagame.
>>739308512>>739309151>people hate your art for a long time>finally people start loving your art but only because the newer art is even worsekek what a time to be alive
>>739319598I had a cripple in one of my shorter campaigns.We have all this virtue signalling but neither of his two characters were ever cripple.It's escapism, and he wanted to run, jump and swim and he seemed really happy to forget about his condition even for just a moment at times.That D&D wheelchair thing is just cruel. As if the world is now having a witchhunt against escapism and forgetting our troubles for a bit because it's offensive for a group of people they've never fucking interacted with.
>>739308307Nogs would carve the blackness out of their skin if they could. That's the most "real" thing they can manage to empower themselves.
>>739307397I bet it took them a LOT of restraint to not pick the nog elf as the photo for the races page.
rpg games used to carry a bit more energy.
>>739304365>celtic knot inspired home>filled with niggers, fags, browns, blacks, and... asians...all of modern fantasy needs nuked
>>739318607>Your soul is crippled. This disability is your identity.
>>739319507Picrel is still the most ridiculous thing from that line-up.
>>739320405>carve your ticket to free gibs and preferential government and corporate treatment out of your skinfor what purpose?
>>739307397Remember when Baldur's Gate 2's romance options were 3 different flavours of Elf? All white with one being drow (white features, coloured black).Hard to imagine how much things have changed.
>>739320580subtle /v/ reference
>>739320525Warcraft lost it's edge, literally.There are no edges on the swords and blades.
>>739308003These people really, really love Vitiligo don't they?
>>739318607This reminded me of Dream Warriors when the handicapped kid that played D&D said he can walk in his dreams and Freddy tried to run him over with a spiked wheelchair.
>>739318607>>739318880i have american fatigue
>>739320609Because under the skin they know what they want to be. Yes you have a lot of advantages but in the end you are an inferior lifeform.
>>739309041Unity is strength. Every nation that's embraced multiculturalism/diversity has gotten far weaker and lost all sense of being a high-trust society.
>>739319952Good. I'd fucking kick you out if you were at my table, too.Still, that video is fucking funny.
>>739321034Go ahead and save it my friend, it's all yours.
>>739312534>>739312745I don't know anything about TT Pathfinder, but I really enjoyed both Kingmaker and WotR. It's given me a lott'a respect for the system and mechanics.
>>739320728As if the power that be needs to pacify the populace for some reason.Hi Luigi!
>>739320525okay furfag
>>739314362>I'm only familiar with D&D secondarily through my few hours with BG3. The game was too flashy, diverse, horny, theatre kid quirky, and cartoonish for me to take its setting seriously.Play.Baldur's.Gate.2.
>>739319952We dm hate you minmaxing shitters. Unless we are playing a minmaxers powerplaying campaign, you can go fuck right off and play with microsoft excel. Retard.
>>739321159Pathfinder is "you play d&d with a good master that uses house rules". That's it.
>>739299728Maybe if they didn't make Humans exponentially better than near every other race it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
>>739321247Did you not read the post? I did "fuck right off" of my own accord. I'll stick to Owlcat CRPGs.
>>739321217I remembered the early art for Warcraft and that's all i could find in short time.Maybe you could pause sucking off your handicapped boyfriend and find more?
>>739315602>PF2e shits on spellcasting classes pretty hard, they're now unfun and only exist to support the Fighter (the mvp.)This might be the first time in Tabletop history I've EVER heard of a system where the spellcasting classes aren't the special snowflakes with martials as peasants. How fun.
Please tell me there are specific scenarios where your normal character can get crippled like with a 1 on a jump try or shit like that.
>>739321407I mean GURPS gets it.
>>739321597No no i know i want specific by the manual rules from d&d5
>>739321407I remember a game master who tortured a friend's character for fun, an old one mind you. He cut legs and arms and put him on a stick left to be abused forever.I do remember critical failures on the order of what you describe as well.
>>739318996Can almost guarantee this stuff was made by self-hating whites.
Dungeon was not wheelchair accessible, I left it a 1-star review on google maps.
>>739299728The use of color and the artstyle to this has such an insidious and sinister aura to it, but i cant quite put my finger on how. Like obviously, the nigger worship is tje root but even the artwork itself is like poisoned down to the artist's very soul.I guarantee you this person draws disgusting fetish porn or something.
>>739315675I like class based RPGs, and "number of viables builds" is not something I've ever been interested in. For me, it's more about "how different can the gameplay feel", which is to say two builds that are different but end up feeling the same are functionally identical to me>Magic user with short range energy blast machine gun>Rogue with short swords and high attack rate combosAre the same thing: melee range, fast attacks. When I play these, my hands and brain are doing the same thing.So my favorite class based games are.... Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre were both great. Your team comps can look very different and your units want to move and position in a lot of different ways, but most are still good enough to get the job done. I had fun with Diablo back in the day. I've no idea what they've done to it now though.Really for "build variety" my knee jerk is still StarCraft. There are so many way to approach each match up that it feels very flexible
>>739319952Why not just play CRPGs instead? Kingmaker and WotR will let you go crazy with build tinkering and you can just fastforward or skip through the story if you don't care.
>>739320728When WoW launched it neutered everything original and interesting about the Night Elves (one of the most interesting and original takes on Elves).It's all been downhill from there.
>>739319598It only worked on niggers because theyre stupid enough to believe its something to be empowered by. The message has been conpletely lost on the left lmao.
>>739321969Yeah that's what I do
>>739321694Nope. Note the meme image indicating a complete lack of rules for crippeling injury. There's also a lack of disadvantage systems at creation that would allow you to take a crippeled limb/s for bonus points or anything like that. When you use the 5E wheelchair declaring you're crippled is all it takes! I can't find the rule page, but I remember seeing one where a modified wheelchair that was 20 - 100g in cost like you ignore difficult terrain. Which is equilivant to a whole ass feat for next to nothing.
>>739299728You can tell it's made by gay people for gay people. They have ruined nerd culture.
>>739314000In my last campaign tieflings were jews
>>739314269So the Sauron was a jew all along?
>>739304365Losing my shit at the halfching
unc here. I play in a d&d group and game that has been running since 1988
>>739315779GURPS really does have everything. Be a chad and mix splats.
>>739299728>Everyone has dork vision but the hoomenwtf OSfrog, pls nerf!!!
>>739322803Darkvision is for detecting the human.
>>739303650that looks absolutely terrible lolwho the fuck comes up with this shit
>>739308003>>739307397This is what everyone thinks about when they cry they want Walkable Cities btw
There has to be a perfect mix of all races and sexualities represented in every picture and story in 2026, absolutely depressing soulless trash made by woke retards.
>>739305017>crippled assassin/ninja tries to backstab you, but you hear the squeaking wheels from a mile away>you ignore it, because spending 5 minutes with the Evil Overlord's HR department is literally a fate worse than death
>>739318607When I first saw this I thought they added crippled animals as well.
>>739319032Stop that, that kind of thinking is toxic to the game.
>>739299728Jar Jar Binks? Disney should sue them
>>739309292CLANKCLANKCLANKCLANKCLANK
>>739308629I don't get it. If they are just going to make them Mexicans with tusks, why even have them be a separate race?
>>739299728>Dragonborn realizing he got sent into the cringe cornerOnly race modern WoTC is able to make cool.
>>739318607sorry in my druid is ADAMANT his familiar also has to be crippled, hes off the team
>>739309041Every multicultural and multiracial empire in history has eventually collapsed.
>>739309292
>>739309226>they're not touching Dark Sunmiddle east freedom fightersDak Sun was always about fighting jew overlords(sorcerer kings)
>>739322515I assumed that was a dwarf child
>>739323570Grab the familiar by one side and use it like a club>bonus points if it has spikes.
>>739308538>can't even burn Tieflings to death thanks to their infernal resistanceI hate Tieflings!
>>739322515Halfraces don't exist in DnD anymore because of the racist implications.That's a dwarven chang child.
>>739318560It can be whatever you want it to be because it's fiction.
>>739324728it was a pun on halfling
>>739324789I know.
>>739299728>human
>>739299728Why did they decide orcs were just gay mexicans?
Forced diversity was 10 years ago. This is appropriate diversity.The vast majority of American children are non white.
>>739304365Ill be sad to see.it go but dnd juat needs.to die at this point. This is unsalvagable
>>739324728>don't exist in DnD anymore because of the racist implications.Nigga its a game with half a dozen versions over 40 years. My setting has slavery, racial biases and racial exclusive characteristics.This whole D&D is dying thing is retarded. Like, just play 3.5 or something nigga.
>>739312361>conrasu artSick. I'm playing a conrasu, but with the centaur statblock right now because horses are gay.The bros and I play on foundry every other weekend.
>>739320693she is coloured blue actuallyanyway this is why I don't even bother with modern "artists" they are all fucking faggots. AI generates so much better art than the average artist it's not even funny
>>739325127I play 5.5 with my friends, current character is a half-elf because fuck Wizards of the Coast.
>>739303650>in a better timeline orcs are associated with mongols>theyd ride giant spined boars into battle, raid and use the tusks of the boars to make warbows that could pierce plate while still being savage barbarians>instead theyre fucking muh abuela wholesomito spicsFifth worst timeline.
>>739299728>I want to play this RPG as a human warrior!
>>739301751You know why.
>>739321403The fundamental nature of magic is that it ignores physical realitySo it goes without saying that mages are always ridiculously overpowered in every setting, they don't obey the laws of nature and can do whatever they want. Everyone would be magic users in the typical magic setting because fighting with a metal stick vs people who casually toss around fireballs is retarded. Like expecting to see cavalry charges against trenches and drones in modern warfare levels of retarded.
>>739301601did a middle manager give you a bad review last year? lol
>>739305017WotC is based in Seattle, that's all you need to know to understand what the issue is.
>>739314319Thats their new face. Originally they were the deformed decendants of devil rape so naturally lendedthemselves to edgy play. And that was a good thing! Now their just a pretty rainbow snowflake canvas
>>739324991welcome to 2026 forced "anti-fantasy racism" woke politics evolved with a dash of Indian (Don't touch our holy cows unless you worship us!), Jewish (No you can't make white people the good guys! You have to make whites the devils!) mixed in globohomo Feminist politics and cancel vultures deciding the future of traditional, meritocratic libertarian ethos enforcing gaming through the basic merit of exist (gaming by default is utilitarian, egalitarian in the right wing sense of "fraternity, equality and liberty" (French Motto, Liberty not meaning Liberalism but Libertarian sort of Freedom, do what thou wilt) sort of way, not "equality of outcomes and wealth" but "opportunities and fairness under the law." These niggas literally think that an AI is too dangerous to RP with when it comes to OSR D&D factually and they lock that shit down because its "Eurocentric, Hypermasculine and Nihilistic Military Worship." The most Anti-Woke thing to do is to develop a free Euro-Centric AI that doesn't lip-service any political idea, just as history (reality) and fantasy (fiction) was represented through books and clearly making it understand to separate each with clear "no need to censor fiction" rule, not how it should be according to feminist ideology or how some gum-guzzling Antifa apologist pedojew thinks, those same people are the ones deciding D&D's current trajectory. Woke fuckers were never D&D, they rejected Gary Gygax therefore I reject them. They want to run a fantasy game that's not a militarist campaign (at least relative to in terms of how it plays out outside of trappings of vietnam jungles and dungeon turned into fantasy realms) of 4x kind where we loot and take whatever we can and kill whomever resists? They can suck my dick and go play with their barbies.
>>739305017Blackrock
>>739325306Asleep
>>739325384Wrong idiot that's lazy magic writing, real magic writing is that it manipulates reality and affects and warps it into a condition where it can through willpower or sacred names (sometimes combination) or ritual power to warp the reality to be what you want, best magic always enables physics to function with it not against physics. Ergo if you cast a fireball in a small room, the fire is going to burst and might reflect back on you and you get engulfed in it as well. (AD&D)
ttrpgs and by extension d&d can be anything you wantIt can't go to shit because they can't force you to do anythingMy game has zero non-whites
>>739325630self-indulgent racial mania is only ok when we do it, nerd.
>>739307416>You're a hacking racisterino because you play as le hecking blackerino>Ok, do you want to play as a white person?>REEEEEEEEEE-ACK!
>>739303650
>>739325630>Euro-centric>Immediately begins to worship jewskek
>>739305017normgroids are always looking for a new thing to make them seem like a "cool outcast" and it eventually reached tabletop gamingfaggot shit like critical role was easily digestible gas poured on the fire and polluted the sphereHasbro and co would be stupid to not encourage and cater to such a smooth brained happily consuming demographic but it does make everything borderline unplayable for non faggotsif you haven't got a fairly close knit circle of friends or local community that rejects most of the modern faggotry injected into the scene its hard to get anything togetherfor dnd you're probably just going to continue playing 3.x and earlier for a couple more decades or homebrewing so much of the stupid shit out of modern rulesets you might as well just be playing old editionsthe blessing and curse of the genre is that if you understand the mechanics well enough and have the slightest bit of self restraint you can easily convert things in both directions to your fancy
>>739326076Gary Gygax was a Swiss Man, Christian, not a Jew, I know. Yids are parasites who take on their host forms to blend in. Gygax isn't a Jew however by all metrics and he wasn't down with this woke shit as far as I know, he was a real one that got fucked over by a feminist bitch who ran TSR down into the ground, I know you are a Chinese crying so hard at facts because Vietnam was mentioned. Nothing smells better than napalm and dead commie gooks than Rape of Nanjing bodies after being bred by Japanese Soldiers.
>>739325742You sound fucking retardedLike I understand directionallly what you mean, but you're too fucking retarded to understand how to explain what you mean, so I have to insert assumptions to make you sound less fucking dumb.Yes, a magic system that obeys the laws of physics (e.g. laws of thermodynamics) does resolve a lot of the inadequacies of a magic system - however there are few to no settings that actually bother with this, because it gets complicated quickly while "its magic I dont have to explain shit" is easy and straightforward.AD&D is "its magic I dont have to explain shit"I'm not sure what magic system dragonlance used, but what I recall from the books was raistlin et al spending life energy on their magic and that makes more sense than inexplicable reality bending without constraint. However, few players are going to be happy about a 2000 calorie daily limit on the max energy of their spells; it brings things down to the mundanity of contrips and a guy swinging a sword, which is not what people want out of magic - they want reality bending. They want magic to be retarded.
>>739321403Really, it's mostly just Pathfinder 1e, D&D 3.5e, and 5e where magic is overwhelmingly more powerful than being a warrior. I can think of many more systems that have magic be very limited, weak, or balanced (including earlier editions of D&D). It's just that the three systems where magic absolutely shits on everything else happen to be the three most popular systems of all time (by a massive margin). It's just D&D brainrot, and a lot of people have been infected by the brainrot so heavily that they think it's a good thing if the game is balanced horribly and magic is just objectively stronger in every way than other options.Shadow of the Demon Lord, Burning Wheel, Conan 2d20, and - as mentioned - Pathfinder 2e are a few systems I like where I'd say magic is balance at its absolute strongest. And in all four of those systems spellcasters are way more interesting and unique to build and play than they are in the systems where they're overpowered gods with a universal toolkit. Because it's fun to work around limitations or to have downsides to your phenomenal powers. And each of those systems has a unique approach in how it makes magic balanced and flavorful.>SotDL makes you have to invest in specific schools so it encourages specializing in just a couple niches of magic (i.e. focusing on becoming a fire mage, or learning teleportation magic)>Burning Wheel makes magic very costly to invest in and magic is generally tied to your race (i.e. humans have faith-based miracles, elves have magical singing, dwarves can craft with magic) >Conan 2d20 leans into the sword & sorcery style of magic where it's mostly in esoteric rituals that are INCREDIBLY powerful (i.e. summoning a kraken, astral projection, raising an army of undead) but not very useful in a pitched battle (in which case you're better served using alchemy to make explosives and shit) >PF2e just goes for general numbers balance
>game has "races">every race has blacks, whites and asians in themIs there a single thing that kills fantasy faster than this? No, seriously, its unironically the most anti-thesis thing to fantasy, you have all this races, you can have 41325 races but they all boil down to 3 irl races cosplaying them. If nobody cared about race then how the fuck to races exist? They would at some point have become a monoethnic via racemixing. Somehow nobody cares about race yet there are still races and its important to show that there are different races. If a specific species ,lets say elves, has different races within it on what fucking bases would they be the same as in humans? Not only is it creatively bankrupt but it also makes no sense. Why would I want for elves to have niggers and chinks? Why wouldnt the elven races be drows, wood elves, high elves etc? Why would lizard people be lizard niggers and lizard chinks when they can be crocodiles, gecos, kobolds, etc? The idea of "diversity" in fantasy has become the literal opposite.
I used to be a human warrior guy myself, but not having the ability to use magic in a fantasy setting is extremely lame, it's the ultimate sign of a jobber not chosen by the gods.
God damn, I fucking love seeing fake nerds emulate '50s bigotry over imaginary characters of fictional races. It's like 4 layers of wasted energy. Thanks guys, this thread is the tits.
>>739299728Why they all look mediterranean/north african. Is this the bronze age?
>>739299728what the fuck is that art for the Aazoomar?
>>739326283What really fucked D&D was the TSR split/takeover by the leftist blume brothers, their subsequent embezzlement of cash driving TSR to bankruptcy, and then them both using their shares alongside the shrew liberal karen lorraine williams to fuck gygax out of control of the company after he had them removed from the board.Then williams sold out TSR to WOTC.AFAIK, there weren't any jews involved, just liberals screwing over the conservative guys that had made D&D.
>>739299728Moderate improvement, Gnomes no longer make me want to vomit on sight.
>>739326437Antithetical
>>739299728Very cool 5.5Now show me Warforged.
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>>739314362>dnd>Tolkien-esqueIn a very vague and surface-level fashion (and really just because Gygax's pals who were into LotR bugged him to add dwarves and elves and shit to play as)DnD takes far more from old pulp sword & sorcery at a base levelThe Conan stories, where he ends up in an exotic new location, gets caught in some local conflict, battles a monster or an evil sorceror and then goes onto the next adventure is where the whole concept of having a DnD session comes fromAll of which makes it now being the domain of retarded genderqueer theatre kiddies in their thirties and fourties supremely tragic
>>739326437It lacks verisimilitude, it's like a BMW 330i on pelennor fields in lord of the rings.Leftists constantly try to insert their political nonsense into settings where it doesn't make a lick of fucking sense - destroying the verisimilitude of the setting, and then going "fuck you chud, I fixed your thing", when what they actually did was take a shit on it and set it on fire.This is why you need to gatekeep leftists out of your hobbies, always. They do not care about your hobby, it's a vehicle for their narcissism and politics, never anything else.
>they ruined d&dwhose d&dnigga just play what you wantthey literally can't force you to do anythingyou can literally make your setting white supremacy power fantasy with stomping nigger's head holiday and mass gay crucifixions
>>739326879Meanwhile it's actually right-wingers who get kicked out of D&D groups because they can't stop being obnoxious bigots
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>>739301463Its the butch dyke phenotype.I have a lesbian coworker and she has the same face as picrel and all her lesbian friends either have this face or the face of a dry blocky skinwalker.
Do dragonborn have nipples?
>>739301601>even if it means making everything as sterile or bland as flour.People used to say these words when you just had 30-40 year old white male leads with "Anglo-Saxon" names like Mason (and often the leads weren't strictly white, but that didn't stop the complaints).Bland? Caustic.Sterile? Fertile for controversy. Only sterile if asking if the characters would ever be able to, let alone willing, to breed to continue the human race.
>>739326539Mrs. Phoebe Crabtree Dille, John Flint Dille Jr, names of the parents of Lorraine Williams. Totally don't sound "Jewish" at all. Crabtree family sounds 100% something a Jew would name themselves I'm pretty sure there's Jewish blood there. Media company family = Likely a Jew in the west. Its a bit of an open secret.
I like the juxtaposition of these two posts: >>739326947 | >>739326986Because together it lays it out very clearly: >>739326947You can just have your "White supremacy power fantasy" (Actually, a sort of strawman because what we wanted was just fucking normal)>>739326986Yet at the same time this is why you must be kicked out of all your own hobbies and groupsThe snakes talk out both sides of their faces.
>>739311918kek
>>739327217>normalThis is a dog whistle.
>>739326765Conan (The action and cunning rogue hero archetype as standard), Elric of Melnibone (Alignment System) and Jack Vance (Magic system, capability limited by one's intelligence as a capacity for daily spells, directly comes from Vance's Dying Earth.) Go read the whole Appendix N. from AD&D 1e.
>>739327217You see the problem is >>739326986 if fucking delusional your friends who share similar views as yours are not gonna kick out of the game for shit. Unless you're playing with randoms but then you have way bigger problems than that random games are just a special type of hell.Also most DMs are right-wing. You can't kick the DM out of the game, because then there is no game, and 99% of players are too lazy to run.
>>739327217Hey man, you want blacks to stay with their own kind, why can't the rest of us want you nu-klanners to stay in your basements together? Everybody's happy if you just fuck off and erase youraelf from the public world.
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>>739304365LOLAs I always say, liberals are incapable of understanding the concept of transcendence, because they are merely materialistic golems, the product of a post-World War II Jewish society.The consequence of this is that they cannot escape their reality, their bodies, their minds. They can only imagine a single point of view, and because of this, EVERYTHING they do ends up being a portrait of the daily life of the modern, retarded urban liberal.
reject d20 faux "old school" faggotryembrace d100 degrees of success roleplaying
>>739327182I think so too, but the photos of her don't trigger my jewdar. >>739327304Liberals and liberalism have never been normal. It's the most anti-social, dehumanizing, and anti-human ideology Humanity's yet devised. At its core it is anti-natalist and self destructive, only able to sustain itself through indoctrination as liberals cannot even maintain replacement rate fertility like conservatives (normal people) can.It is insulting that liberals think and act like they are what's normal, when in the history of mankind liberals are an aberration that are quickly killing themselves while trying to drag the rest of us down with them.
>>739299728Is it me, or is there no longer even an attempt to make the character look cool?
>>739325384The problem isn't just that the rules favour magic, it's that people who have perceptions like you do.Mage: "I've got a cantrip that minorly manipulates dirt... So I'm going to use that to create an earthquake throughout this entire cave to bury all the bad guys!"DM: "Wow! Love the creativity! Go for it! I'll roll for crushing damage."Warrior: "We're fighting near the top of some stairs, so I'm gonna push him backwards, then kick him down the stairs. Then I'll block it with that bookcase there.DM: "Woah, whoa, whoa there! Okay, I'm gonna need you to make, um, an Agility check, then two strength checks, and probably a Wit check as well. And there's no way you can do all that in one turn anyway.Nobody cares about RAW for interpreting magic because of "Rule of Cool", meanwhile anytime a martial wants to do something beyond just standard attack, they'd better have the best dice in the world.That's without even getting into how much the community around magic seems to fucking LOVE the idea of fumbles and critical fails. Which punishes martials while nobody ever adds critical fails to spells. In the entire history of the game, not one DM has ever said "If any of your Fireball dice is a 1 you flub the spell and it blows up in your face", meanwhile, it's common to need to explain "Adding critical fumbles to your game means Martial characters get weaker as they level up. It turns their characters into jokes. Don't do that."
>>739327304Those people who say normal would think OG Greyhawk, Mystara and Dragonlance are problematic because they have an Eurocentric white male perspective alone for that, never listen to people who claim "normalcy" and not stating what it means clearly. (Eurocentric views as it was in feudal times in an anachronistic setting with fantasy and enlightenment era philosophy with Greek and Roman basis on philosophy and Jeffersonian take on geopolitics.)
>>739326879>>739327045ugh, why does everything have to be so polarized now? can't you fools see that demanding only a BMW 330i and going as far as demanding a BMW 530i are two sides of the same extremist, radical, dangerous coin? the truth is always in the middle. Lord of the Rings must add a BMW 430i, no more, no less.
when will we get to see this kind of orcs in video games?
>>739326375Interesting.
>the obvious AI
>>739327470Forgot the image
>>739327061>why does she look like a goblin with no tits?>well, you see, she's a criminal, has only ever eaten corpse starch, and is a loser who constantly gets into fights. It's REALISTIC.>... so why does she have all her teeth, is wearing easily-rippable piercings, has body fat but not on the tits, doesn't have muscles, isn't starving, doesn't have granny sag in her body to match her face, is still sexualised but only on the tummy and bare arms, is somehow ignoring male-female dynamics in violent war societies where the average age is <20 and fertility is feckloads and...I'm tired of the ugly women in my video games.
>>739327489>blatant nogame postalways hilarious to read these schizoposts of things that never happened
>>739326437As always, we look to the East.>Huh? Elves? Sure! Here's a race that's incredibly beautiful, pale skilled, youthful and innately gifted with magic. There's also a dark-Elf alternate race but they still have the same beautiful white/asian features.
>>739305017Theater kids took over tabletop rpgs and made it gay and lameCritical Role was the beginning of the end
>>739299728>>739303650I think the art looks fine on a technical level but the designs are abhorrent and just looks too soft for a game about fighting monsters and questing. Why is everyone well groomed and dressed like cosplayers?
>>739327364>your friends who share similar views as yours are not gonna kick out of the game for shit.And that's true, they won't. So I understand what you mean in this sense, but you're off your fucking rocker if you think it doesn't matter in the wider scope of society that you can't even discuss your game on a forum like this one without getting banned for wrongthink by leftists everywhere you go.They do not follow a "live and let live philosophy"; which is why anyone to the right of mao needs to get intolerant and start treating leftists as they deserve to be treated, as they have more than earned to be treated. They are the absolute scum of the earth destroying our societies from the bottom up. You shouldn't ever be handwaving away the damage they do to society.>>739327512It's polarized like this because a bunch of fucking retards bought the propaganda pushed out by financialists and internationalists and function as useful idiot warriors for social causes that are actually destroying everything Europeans ever built.Either you fight against it or your society gets destroyed. Look around you, have you had enough nons in your city yet? Maybe when you're 15% of the population it'll finally clue the fuck in when the machete wielding savages are going door to door murdering the last remaining Whites and stealing all their shit?Defending the leftist outlook or pretending like conservatives are causing this and not these retarded libshits, it explicitly taking the road to the ruination of your own people and nation. Stop playing fucking dumb and start paying attention to what these people are doing to you, your society, your hobbies, your entertainment, to everything around you. They are a malefic force, whether they understand that or not themselves.
>>739326879>This is why you need to gatekeep leftists out of your hobbies, always. They do not care about your hobby, it's a vehicle for their narcissism and politics, never anything else.It's so strange to think that all the most nerdy of nerdy hobbies, MTG, DnD and Warhammer all got pozzed so quickly and so completely. Like they all just instantly rolled over without a fight. As bad as gaming is, at least people have and continue to push back on it in gaming.If you'd told me 10years ago that the most nerdy of nerdy, most impenetrable hobbies would be populated by super leftist theatre kids and tumblrinas, I wouldn't have believed you. They always seemed like they would be our nuclear shelter, too niche and too lame for them to bother with. But here we are.I think a lot of it is downstream from YouTube adding ad-revenue, honestly. Getting the content creators on side immediately changes the tone. People who like nerdy hobbies like watching videos about nerdy hobbies, so when the content creators are onboard, the space follows. You can see a huge amount of people got into Warhammer from 40K lore videos for example.
>>739327824if the main exposure the modern art and design team made up of twitter and tumblr homosexuals has had is cosplay they see posted on twitter and at conventions what else would they make?
>>739315675BRP have a solid character creator, and is a good system, if not on the crunchier sideMythras is more of it, with tactical combat where the weapon range and character size play an important role DragonBane is a mix of DnD and BRP, with roll under skill as the main thing, but with d20 instead of d100. There are classes, but it's more of a Elder Scroll where you level up your skills, and the class is more gear and starting feat, and feats are better, but also a lot more rare. I hate HP-bloat, and all those above have pretty static HP, which both makes things more deadly, and make lesser/lower enemy still a threatTales of Argosa is more OSR, but a decent character creation, and it have classes. It's more Conan, but you also got an Artificer class that can use stuff like firearms and chainblades, which I'm not a huge fan of, and magic tends to give you mutations like tentacle arms and such if your unlucky with your spellcasting
>>739309663how do you even sleep with that shit? Do you have to make up your hair every morning or what?t. sides short, top slightly longer 4lyfe master race
>>739299728>Black kings and queens: Exist>Chud pants status: Fully shitteded and pissededKekaraldo
>>739327745Stop calling transvestites and their clout chasers theater kid who really control the western industry with Jew approval: Critical Role only funnelled the normies into "we must support the woke D&D" mind trap, they should stay there so they can get filtered out of other systems unless they apologize for supporting cannibalizing the gaming industry. Its always the same people controlling what you can and can't say, they want to be the only ones remaining to feel special because they got no real power outside of that sphere.
>>739327217>>739327304You bring up a good point, reminds me of a post I saw a few weeks ago about "What leftists think right wing people want/believe" and it was so far off the mark it was crazy. It was like none of them had any clue what anyone to the right of them actually thought or wanted and so they were just drawing their ideas from movie villains."They want to be able to pollute freely and execute anyone who speaks with an accent." Sure, there's a few fringe cases like that, but that's not the general position. Kind'a no wonder they all thought the presidential election would be a genocide for them.
>>739327870>time to add new "things" to your favorite game
>>739328016not even, everyone was cool with arabic and african settings in D&D if it was not overtaking original creations but adding to the things. "oh look, an exotic place to loot and raid. sick, I want some of those scimitars!"
>>739327464>Liberals and liberalism have never been normal*Communists and Communism. Though of course you know this and are just another dialectical warrior.
>>739327464>It's the most anti-social, dehumanizing, and anti-human ideology Humanity's yet devisedNo, Conservative beliefs are. It is an ideology that rewards ignorance and encourages you to be inflammatory, racist, sexist and discriminatory in many other ways. It is an ideology that weaponises nostalgia for a time that never truly existed in the same way liberalism weaponises the idea of an equal and free world.If you're a conservative you might as well call yourself a grand wizard, unironically the same thing.
>>739309432what the fuck are you talking about?
>>739310217HUMANZ
>>739301834>first ever D&D session>playing a Cartographer (AD&D)>I enter the tavern >each player is brooding in the corner>everyone dressed in black with 2 handed swords>also this tavern has 5 corners I guessIt was an interesting campaign. Everybody was edgy and snarky as fuck but the Ranger guy and Barbarian and Assassin mellowed out and our characters became good buddies while the other 2 fought for the spotlight and were lonewolfing it and getting us into trouble.
>>739328169Cultural Communism (Feminist Roaches), Economic Parasites (Antifa Leeches, "Communists but really just socialist syndicalists aka cartel lover boys"), mob violence lovers by any means than other than calling it what it is.
>>739327947>I think a lot of it is downstream from YouTube adding ad-revenue, honestly. Getting the content creators on side immediately changes the tone.These changes are top-down.Content creators don't change anything but a lot of content creators are from the same background and eat from the same trough as those who produce for D&D.
>>739327947I think partly because D&D nerds are socially maladjusted already - the high IQ nerd to troon pipeline is very real, frankly intentional. What better way to castrate White men than to literally castrate their boys through a social movement encouraging them to be girls and telling them they'll gain social acceptance, popularity, and all the sex they can dream of, if they chop their dicks off and play pretend (they play pretend every day already thats easy)And also partly because mass media exposure encouraged rich theatre kids to branch into RPG's where there was already pressure to make the nerds conform to their political views. >>739328169Liberalism has been a disaster for Europeans since the French Revolution (and a little before)I grew up nominally liberal, I'd say virtually everyone here did, but it went off the rails in my lifetime and my anti-liberal convictions only grew the more I explored history and saw with both what liberalism achieved in the past, and what my own eyes are showing me that liberalism in practice means.>>739328250You have no fucking clue what a conservative believes. You have a false stereotype you've painted in your bigoted retard head, and then you rail against this bogeyman that doesn't even exist. This describes such a huge majority of libtards that I can no longer consider any of you fuckers to be remotely intelligent. You are the dumbest sacks of shit in the population, with no theory of mind of anyone else, "If I were a villain how would I behave?" - simply projecting *yourself* onto others.Every liberal accusation is a confession.
Why do they think browns want to play as brown elves? Let's be real, every brown has white envy and they always will even when we're extinct.
>>739328379Yeah, and because they can get revenue from making videos about Warhammer lore, it's the Theatre kids that wind up being the biggest names in videos for Warhammer lore etcetc. They wouldn't be making those videos if there wasn't money for it.My point is that if there wasn't an external marketing scheme like YouTube the entire structure would be different.
>>739299728Lefties have such soulless aesthetic taste. Every piece of "nerd" media uses this bugman character design style.
>>739327690I don't get that image at all.
>>739304365Reminding me of that one guy who said in one generation you turned mens facial hair into something gay. Insane
>>739328502>>You have a false stereotype you've painted in your bigoted retard head>proceeds to post a false stereotype painted in his bigoted retard head.See?
Goycattle are scary, man. They start calling each other communists and wishing death on each other over board games.
>>739307416Racism exists>no it doesntSend them to mexico or the projectsThey get mugged, raped and die
>>739328349Liberals and Communists are entirely unrelated other than the latter has usurped the identity of the latter. That's why the online left seethed so hard when people were calling themselves Classical Liberals, because they hate Liberals and Liberalism and will tell you this if you read their writing.As for calling it what it is, I would use the umbrella term more liberally, but the true demon is cloaked in enough shadow that no one knows what you are talking about. Barely anyone recognizes the Dialectic as the root of evil that it is, even is at seeps in to the right from their fringes.>>739328502Your entire generation has not known Liberalism. Communism has been bending "liberals" since the 60s at least, and the left hasn't been truly liberal for 100 years. You know all this though, you only exist to further the dialectic. You are, at your core, the exact same as the people you claim to hate.
>>739328261>med whites conquer other whites and territories arabs hadn't genocided yet, creating a classical empire>said empire fell when their divide-and-conquer tactics ended in favour of citizenship for everyone, and monoracial whites and then arabs invaded>"This was a multiracial nation of whites, blacks, arabs, indians, aseans, asians and aboriginals, it was really successful"Next you'll tell me the British Empire and WWII America weren't white empires. And that world changers like Napoleon were black because he came from Corsica, a famously african country.
>>739328557They found out that Bell was in a relationship with Riveria and so they're protesting it, because they all revere Riveria as a High Elf. And to Elves, a high-elf race-mixing with a human is an unthinkable idea. (Ryu's sign says "No Alf. Yes Lion" so she's biased)They immediately changed their tune when they saw Bell and Riveria's daughter.
so many anons still on their chud phasei wonder when you'll grow up it's just a videogame
>>739328502French Revolution would've had you shot for those words, it wasn't Liberal, it was Patriotic Traditionalist and Conservative. Not some liberal thing, the nobles acted more like modern commies and liberal leeches, reminder the Jews were robbing the French even back then, French Revolution executed more than just "The Nobles", they killed corrupt officials.
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>>739328846The French Revolution killed countless innocent people for basically no reason. The revolutionaries all started using executions to remove their political opponents and in the end, they almost all got executed themselves.I can respect Robbespierre, but the fact that he died in agony while being executed before a jeering crowd is pretty funny to me.
>>739328720They are accelerationists basically who just want to destroy and ruin the world so that some form technocratic authoritarianism (example, extremist zionism, "communism" or whatever else term they want to use) will take over instead and they are part of the ruling party because of "good boy" behavior, they will call you crazy, mentally ill, but never a liar. (for spotting their game, its called dissidient psychiatry abuse or "sluggish schizophrenia.")
>>739299728Oh it's the #resistance art style
>>739329009I can respect the fact they at least got shit done against corrupt elites, that's good enough, let god sort them out in hell and let people sort their mess is my thinking, you live by the sword and die by it, you accept that when you start executing people.
>>739329112This post has got me kirked up.
>>739329112I can agree with that, the FR did a lot of good things, but it's not something I venerate because it was also used for incredible evil. Of course, it ended with an Emperor anyway so, lol.
>>739318607what the shit
>>739325384Just make your martials superhuman as well, being able to move faster than sound, punch through mountains, slice holes in reality to cut through dimensions.
When will this gay pandering fad end?
>>739305017Big bang theory.
>>739329047You are focused on the ends, I am focused on the animating spirit. We are both talking about the same thing. We should not fight, as their main methodology is to sew discord.You continue your work to chop of the head, I shall continue mine to rip out their soul.
>>739329217If the emperor is better (a benevolent ruler who makes shit run), its better than a corrupt nobility crew of bandits that eat your money and fatten their families. So basically: Better a strong authority that fucks shit up the right way than a weak state that makes people die because of lack of opportunities.
>>739301463A fucking psyop. No healthy person likes the haircut but i think its for troon devs to signal to the mentally ill they infiltrated and destroyed the product successfully.
>>739299728Looks like the got elf its head twisted 180 degrees.
>>739308152If its not important, why'd they make all the art portray nigs and fags in the first place?
>>739329480Its like the diversity Dreads of the "black hair token male character" in recent failed games to signal "they support solidarity with BLM and woke mind set!" performative "we are part of the black nationalist resistance movement" bullshit because dreads are somehow warrior only hairstyle or someshit or only unique to blacks when its not even the case. ridiculous.
>>739329324when you get rid of jews and curb the rights of women
>>739328794>>739328940Bell should be banging Eina.>>739328836>gif>chud
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>>739328545It's a double whammy of trying to lie about reality - turning fantasies into an unwarranted real-life caricature that attempts to paint liberal political beliefs as absurdly perfect and conflict free (which is BORING for a fantasy setting), while also disarming the reader to inject sex pest propaganda into you, which you have an immediate disgust response against for biological reasons (weak genetics, disease proliferation and abuse of children are all hallmarks of leftism and their sexualities).He-man wielding a sword fighting orcs, slaying lord skeletor, and getting the big breasted amazon babe is dramatically and viscerally more interesting than a setting where slavery is outlawed, everyone's gay faggot married, and you're fighting the evil Lord Drumpf because democracy and it was HER turn.
>>739320580Why are they lurking in our threads?
Orcs are peaceful folk who are spreading involuntary love to the masses.
>>739304365>asian dwarf>orcs mexicans>we wuz aasimar and elfs>humans can also be every human species >black halflingsWhats the point of fantasy races of they are just different flavors of human
>>739305017Critical roll happened and more and more normalfaggots joined after spending decades making fun of OG players
Where are all the blue-skinned, purple-eyed, white haired low int max charisma qt's?
>>739329453One of the funnier things about the revolution was that the nobles and the King weren't really as corrupt as pictured. Like even the propoganda about Marie Antoinette, when you look into it, there's nothing showing her wasting money or doing anything beyond just living a fairly normal, royal life.The crown had invested massively in the American civil war, for the sake of fucking over the UK and as a result they were almost bankrupt. They all but told the public this during the Tennis Court address and nobody believed them, Nekker wasn't sacked for no reason, there just wasn't any money left.So when the Revolutionaries took over they expected to find a big pot of wealth and to be able to distribute France's taxes in better ways and... they couldn't. There was no easy solution, the infrastructure and institutions weren't any more sustainable for them than they had been for the Crown. They absolutely failed at getting the country back on track.So how did they solve it? The Roman method. They turned France into a plunder economy. The crazy thing is that it worked. Because they revolutionised the army, by hiring/promoting on merit instead of blood, they got brilliant men like Napoleon who were being wasted by their lack of nobility. So, they made France into the strongest military in Europe, and then balanced their budget by invading and raiding their neighbors.That was exactly as sustainable as you imagine it was, and so as soon as things started going wrong, they went completely wrong and in the end-> I did not usurp the crown. I found it in the gutter, and I picked it up with my sword."
>>739329673A few weeks ago we had that big blue button red button thing and what I learned generally from the blue collectivist viewpoint, and what I quickly connected to liberal belief systems and liberals in general, is that they have a sense of entitlement to imaginary things they've concocted in their head, and when they do not get the imaginary entitlements they get homicidally resentful to those who are "denying" them.This explains basically everything about liberal ways of thinking.It is Entitlement (for the imaginary) + Resentment (for not getting it).Literally toddler morality.
>>739329741Only if Nina is also included. Otherwise Ryu.
>>739309992>who's the goodguy here?>fans:>that's a very difficult question>the beastmen may be roaming cannibals trying to rape everything that moves, but they're hot>the people may be diverse, gay, an anarcho-commune, and against monarchy, oppression and men in general, but they are still human beings>so on the whole, the beastmen>nazis:>the beastmen
>>739329787What about settings like with Rance? (Chaotic Neutral Hedonism, no brain, just pure dick points where he goes, self-interested hero that's more evil than a regular bad guy but too much of a goofball to be a big threat most of the time (unless its Sengoku Rance) He's basically a 80s Murderhobo player as a JRPG character.
>>739310102Can i get a /v/ of this?For when 80% of the board seems to be insufferable retards I swear to fuck we have had this exact thread in like 2019, same bullshit complaints and everything. Down to the thieflings, color swap races, and deislop
>>739330209>iberal>CollectivistAre you lying or retarded?
>>739330243I have no idea who Nina is, Ryu is fine too.
Still cracks me up when I think about that dude at Larian throwing a fit over the average created character during BG3's early access.
>>739330295What about it? You're not asking anything.Not too many care if libtards create their own settings. Those always quickly fail for a variety of reasons even when they're ostensibly pretty awesome to begin with, like trench crusade.The problem is that liberals see unassociated and apolitical things and turn them into vehicles for their politics, which corrupts the original settings and works of art. Which is despicable.
>>739307475At least it's thematically consistent.A repulsive artstyle to represent the repulsive culture and beliefs of repulsive people.
>>739328261You must be baiting
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>>739330296You haven't played tabletop with /v/ regulars? It's the best randy experience you can get because at least anons are at the same wavelength in the table. The only bad thing is the irregular scheduling so campaigns are rarely followed through beyond like a handful of sessions.
>>739330617No theory of mind, no apple in their head.
>>739330359Nina is Eina's younger sister. The Hestia Familia's newest recruit. She's a class-president type girl, but she's not as smart or studious as Eina, so she's kind'a lost and scared about what to do with her life until Bell helps her decide to become an adventurer instead of a Guild member.She ends up falling in love with him without realising her sister is also in love with him.
>>739330382Ever since then I check if any RPG I play collects telemetry data, and if it does I make sure to play a straight white male as the PC.The thought that it might make some random dev seethe is just too funny.
>>739310102Or support an already existing OSR product that already does what you want D&D to do, no modern crunch gayness? OSE (BECMI style), even less than that? Labyrinth Lord (More B/X and OD&D ish.) Castles & Crusades (AD&D 1e with d20 flavor) for Gary Gygax approved gaming, for strictly more 3.0-ish OSR hack: Basic Fantasy. (Free with supplements on their website.)
>>739330718>Nina is Eina's younger sister. The Hestia Familia's newest recruit.I really should start reading the novels again, I only read up to and including the juggernaut arc.
>>739330296Pretty sure the /v/ version is one of these two images
>>739330653I did a one-off eclipse phase game with anons before, it was alright - we boarded a derelict hab, almost got chopped down by the active security system that wasn't meant to be active, then found out they'd gone full mad scientist jurassic park with genemodded dinosaurs inside the hab and everyone had been killed.But like you said, it fell apart pretty much immediately because of scheduling anons together. It's like herding cats, you can really only get 1-3 games out of people before its over.
>>739330296>>739330808
>>739310739The dragons are cute as heckLmao are they unpopular? The draneli or whatever, those moon horse girls were hot
>>739326437I think Pillars of Eternity was the most egregious offender of this because they just made the dedicated black race be the Italian culture. Like it's literally the shitalian meme but brought centerstage as a core game lore.
>>739330836you can only herd anons if you get them angry enough.
>>739330808I actually enter these threads because I find them entertaining, in the same sense as a competitive ranked match in a shooter.
>>739330209>sense of entitlement to imaginary things they've concocted in their head, and when they do not get the imaginary entitlements they get homicidally resentful to those who are "denying" them.You're describing basic human tribalism and than attributing it to a nebulous group for no other reason than personal dislike. Is this is a bot or bait?
>>739319997Elves ever being taller than humans is a faggot indicator.
>>739330804You should, they've remained excellent since then, too. Although if you're looking to dive back in, the side stories are also great. >Episode Ryu 10/10>Episode Freya 9/10>Astrea Chronicles 10/10There's a new Episode Heith that's out, and an Episode Airmid coming too, which should also be very fun.
>>739323591>Every multicultural and multiracial empire in history has eventually collapsedTo be fair, so has every homogeneous one.
>>739330957>he prefer sissy elves
>>739319568>Isn't the beauty of chainmail the fact that you can wear it under clothing and armor?No?
>>739328846>traditionalist and conservativeIt literally was liberalism you fucking sperg. The traditionalism you are espousing is Republicanism which the French pursued against the monarchy and Church. Conservatism was born out of counter-revolutionary ideals and even counter-Rationalism which governed elite cirlces in that time.
>>739319568Gambeson already contains the chainmail inside it, there's no extra chainmail, are you dumb? Its like a padded chainmail jacket.
>>739330957Yeah, it's only true for the original fantasy elves but whatever
>>739331091Look at FFXIV.The only MMO I'm aware of where *Elves* are one of the least played, least popular races. Because they're tall and lanky and not hot at all. You know what is played the most? Catgirls and Au Ra! Because they're sexy, they're small and they're extremely feminine. The only female Elf anyone cares about is Alisaie, because she's short and cute.
>>739330957Obviously. If you hate it and instead want girly little men then you're clearly a faggot.
>>739319568See pic related>>739331197What?
>>739328846Do you not know political history that anarchism was born out of liberal ideas during that era? Anarchism is the telos of Liberalism, most poltiical theorists already noted this centuries ago and adopted it as a political stance like Godwin did. Others opted for a more stately stance and adopted libertarianism, wishing for the state to be intact but minimized as much as possible. These are both liberal ideas.
>>739331203Tolkien was a fag for making elves good at things instead of just being inferior humans.
>>739330951It's not basic human tribalismHaving entitlements can be perfectly normal. (for example, a son feeling entitled to his father's works after his father dies)Having entitlements to imaginary things is not normal. It's a failure to understand what is real and what is not, what you can achieve, and what you cannot achieve.Leftism is full of entitlements to imaginary things that are impossible - like racial harmony or equity. They are even hypocritical about this, "rules for thee, not for mee".It is not tribalism, it is toddlerism.
>>739325021But Mexicans are counted as White on police reports and crime stats :)
>>739331207my first class was catgirl to lol
>>739331269>the guys who practiced whatever they want for thousands of years should not be the absolute best at ityou might be retarded
>>739330957>>739331091>>739331207Counterpoint, this applies only to female Elves. Male Elves being tall and strong is awesome. As demonstrated in WC3 and LotR.
>>739331318Nobody knows who is white until they want to designate an enemy.
>>739331269>Live for thousands of years>Somehow don't get inhumanly good at shitDumb
>>739331325Au Ra here, until I started getting DMs and switch to popoto
>>739331264Anarchism, which sort? Are you equating anti-state behavior with a singular point in time because I'm pretty sure Anarchism always existed, it wasn't just called a political name but being an Outlaw. Anarchy is a joke as a political movement either way.
>>739331308>>It's not basic human tribalism>proceeds to describe human tribalismYou don't live in an objective reality
>>739328261>constant bloody internal conflicts due to over expansion and integration of lesser peoples>manpower wanes to do people not wanting to risk their lives to save foreigners on the other side of the empire "Julian the Apostate's men telling him to fuck right off when he begged him to save his co emperor">have to let in tons of barbars as meat shields and cheap labor>local population gives up and refuses to defend a nation that harbors people they despise >nation fucking dies
>>739331269>Elves>Being inferior to humansThat's a Victorian England myth, and a corruption of much older works. Also Dunsany started the rehabilitation of Elves, not Tolkien.
>>739331197gambeson is purely fabric, it doesn't contain chainmail, it is sometimes worn with chainmail on top, but not embedded.There are padded armors that do contain metal, but they're metal plates instead of chainmail and are called brigandine.I've never heard of or seen a gambeson with embedded chainmail, maybe it exists in some niche example, but it's not something I've ever seen anywhere before, let alone as a common thing.
>>739331446Please read Godwin and British Radicalism if you're that anon that thought French Revolution wasn't built off of liberal ideas but instead "conservative" and "traditionalist". That is the most insane perspective on the politics of the revolution that it's delusional because it's entirely the opposite. So opposite in fact that the French changed the calendar system because it was too traditional at the time.
>>73933029610 million hours on memegenerator
>>739331353>>739331417>oh they practice for 500 years to be a archmageHuman does it in 30. Elves are just inferior humans.
>>739330382And then in the very next trailer the player character they have chosen is a stereotypical black woman with afro.
Elves are shorter, sneaky and magicalHumans are all roundersOrcs/Half-Orcs are taller, strong and retarded
>>739331487Dunsany only took the idea of elves being transcendental beings away from humanity. Tolkien wrote them a culture, mysticism, language and physique that cemented them in modern fantasy. The pluralization of elf to elves is or dwarf to dwarves instead of elfs and dwarfs is also Tolkien's work.
>>739330808>>739330867Appreciated I do acknowledge the whole, entered a thread and mad about it, im very guilty myself right now.I just hoped in the 7-12 or so years its been since ive last seen people rage about dnd id hope SOMETHING would change
>>739331729Anything other than this is pure nigification.
>>739331576Anarchism just isn't worth looking into, you can be an actual Republican and have a live and let live ideals (Pursuits of Liberty and Happiness, hard on Crime and Corruption, can both co-exist), have you read Jefferson? Ser Acton? Any of the Anti-Federalists and Federalist papers? What about Aristotle or Plato? I base more of what I understand on their works than some false idealisms.
>>739331618HehehehehaThanks
>>739331852Yes I actually have but that's not the conversation here. The conversation is about how stupendously wrong the label of traditionalist and conservative the French Revolution was which you've yet to defend calling them as it violates all known political distinctions. The only way you can call them that is because they've created a political myth unto themselves and created the basis for their republic, hence their "tradition" is that of the revolutionary ideals.
>>739326879The question is HOW do you gatekeep the useful idiots of governments and world-ruling cults when you're just an outcast sperg on the internet? You can't even call them niggers and faggots anymore, they'll just infiltrate your moderation staff and suppress you like they are doing at this very moment with 4chan.You need to start exterminating these things, and at this point the rabbit hole goes so deep that by the time we get to the bottom - we'll have nukes launched against us by the kikes who would rather see a world seared into ashes by nuclear hellfire than a world without them leeching off of it.
>>739331795I wasn't talking specifically about you, just those are the images that most apply to so many of the people that come into a discussion about something they hate just to try shit up the thread as much as possible.
>>739316334When leftists say they like diversity they mean they like diversity of skin color, not diversity of thought. And they also don't actually like diversity of skin color either, they just use that to mean "as many niggers as possible".
>>739332029There already was a solution for this and grognards have practiced it for decades. It's called creating a niche withing a niche. A community or group you yourself can adequately gatekeep instead of the entire IP itself like these communities that still play 3.5 D&D that still exist. Companies breaking the "social contract" between their core players for the sake of political correctness is the one that's more recent which is why it's seen as a betrayal of unsaid customs and culture.
>>739328016>Black kings and queens: ExistThat's the thing though: They didn't.It's complete fiction. You have to have a kingdom to be a king, and mud huts by the watering hole do not a kingdom make.
>>739331461>>manpower wanes to do people not wanting to risk their lives to save foreignersWhat certainly didn't help was the primary stock of people the soldiery came from were dispossessed of their farmland, and the attempted reforms by the gracchus brothers were not only extremely unpopular with the senate, but also ineffective at resolving the crisis. Since the military required soldiers to be land owners, the legal situation created a manpower disaster for the roman army.The wealthy created massive farming estates run by slaves and wouldn't allow anything to change that situation, even at the cost of the broader empire (and their fortunes) as a whole.You can pretty clearly see the direct parallels with modern society and mass immigration.
>>739309663Haven't seen that shit in a while, I think they switched back to mullets of all things
>>739332026Its conservative and traditionalist to me, what you are describing is not Liberalism, Liberalism as it is today and back then, protects corruption, laziness and effeminate behavior. A true conservative (Conserves), preserves what they believe in. I am not interested in semantics of words that have nothing to do with usual understanding of the words. In many European countries Monarchists are Monarchists (state power should belong to the Monarch, the church should be a powerful institution, the poor should fund the nobility extravagant lifestyles etc), Conservatives are tradition supporting (to their country, Traditionalists, supporting the prolonging of traditions and culture of their nation) capitalists most of the time and patriots, not Liberal. Liberal is of the homosexual type that goes around sucking cock and asking for more than standard welfare and extra rights to feel special privileges about.
>>739331729I prefer the Elves are best at everything but few in numberHumans are the most in number Orcs are the middle ground but they are warlike and huge.
>>739332295>Its conservative and traditionalist to me>to meIf my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike.
>>739330131>Napoleon who were being wasted by their lack of nobilityHe was a noble though, he'd probably have been fine in the ancien regime, maybe apart from being in all real senses italian
>>739332210That's just called locking yourself inside a shed with your friend group while the world burns around you. I guess that works, but you're not getting any new meaningful content that way, and finding new people will be a bitch. At that point how small do we go before it's considered too small? I'm making up my own setting with my own characters that I play with in my own head, am I a proper gatekeeper of my niche within a niche, or am I just a schizo?
>>739332413You posting in this website in this board is an example unto itself.
>>739332029Don't accept people that try to change the hobby. Creating new things is fine, changing what already exists is not.The problem is a lot of people are perfectly fine with adding a 530i BMW to lord of the rings. It's alright if you create fanfiction of that. It's not alright if you buy out the IP and force everyone to accept this as what happened in LOTR, and it's this latter case, where people try to change what already exists, where you have to unconditionally reject what they're doing, and the failure has been in people NOT doing that. They instead say, "why do you care?"This is not something you can do individually, it's a group effort. You have to be intolerant and discriminatory towards the intolerant and discriminatory.Unfortunately roving bands of marauders pretending to be fans, move in and displace the actual fans, and then destroy their niches while corporations rape the artistic works they love.So at that point it's not something you can stop by gatekeeping the changers from your hobby, but a case where you need to go on the political offensive and stop the movement that's enabling and perpetuating the marauders, rapists, and bandits in the first place.
>>739332364Your weird obsession of not using literal English and instead Semantics is very 3rd wave intersectionalist coded/Jewish, strip away the neologisms and revised meanings and get to the root of the word.
>>739328781>Corsica, a famously african country.Corsica was famously Jewish when Napoleon was born, actually.
>>739331197>are you dumb? Its like a padded chainmail jacket.There's something inherently funny about being called dumb while the person saying it is simultaneously saying some of the most asspulled information ever
>>739332491Yeah but how does this make my shareholders money? Sorry but I'd rather appeal to a larger more general audience than try to cater to a tiny cabal of nostalgic circlejerkers.
>>739330131It was the perfect time to do it too since the European powers at the time were disunited with barely any central governance (Italy and Holy Roman Empire) which was ripe for a well-timed invasion. This is also one of the reason why Napoleon failed to consolidate French hegemony over North Africa despite his dominant military victories. It was TOO divided and the locals were prone to not honoring agreements once the military moved on.
>>739327464Just so you know, the phrase "anti-natalist" makes you sound like an idiot. It rests in the same space as phrases like "micro-aggression" and "cultural appropriation."
>>739328379>but a lot of content creators are from the same background and eat from the same trough as those who produce for D&D.You're almost there.Every successful "influencer" or "content creator" is just an industry plant. The majority of social media is just the new Television, all actors and scripts trying to make you believe they are real so that you will trust them and listen to them as your peers. The total collapse of trust and confidence in legacy news outlets after being exposed drove them to this new format of pretending they are just one of the little people with an opinion or an interest.
Why would you ever wear mail on bare skin?It's made of chain linksChains don't play nice with soft, squishy thing
>>739332749It's completely proven at this stage that "the modern audience" is a figment of the imagination of propagandists and does not actually exist. Woke mobs aren't buying anything that's woke, nor are the other 98% of the population. There is no money to be made - it's purely a propaganda effort to jam a political ideology down everyone's throats. Verging on religious proselytization, even.Any investor or shareholder of sound mind would actually NOT want woke liberal politics in anything they're investing money into. It's how you LOSE money, not how you make it.
>>739332412The French Revolution was backed by aristocrats, nobility wasn't the primary enemy as their propaganda would say, it was the Crown itself since it got in the way of them implementing their ideas on how to run France. (The first act of revolution was nobility revolting against a universal land tax) Didn't matter much in the long run because the mob culture they fomented, by clamoring the "Third Estate" to destroy everything, eventually turned on them.
>>739332491>Don't accept people that try to change the hobby.How do I exile them?>This is not something you can do individually, it's a group effort. You have to be intolerant and discriminatory towards the intolerant and discriminatory.But they're retards and they fell for the meme. I keep trying to tell them they fell for the meme, I explain to them how they fell for the meme, I win every single argument with them being unable to provide a retort, and what they do is just sperg out, insult me, and exile me because I go against the perceived consensus.This whole>Well if everyone was not retarded then nobody would be retardedshit is the same as communism - you're fighting human nature by insisting that the group should think like you even though most of its members don't have enough cognitive capacity to comprehend those ideas, let alone agree with them.
>>739332905Liberals have a TFR that's half that of conservatives, partly because they love killing babies. It's just a statement of fact, don't get so bent out of shape about it. This is what liberals actually believe in.
>>739332964Rule of cool
>>739333039>modern audienceWho? I'm talking about the bigger more general audience, you know the biggest group of people and thus the biggest source of potential profit. I don't actually care about anything your saying btw, since it doesn't make me money. You're a tiny group with signiciantly less spending power than the mainstream public, line must go up and you fags represent stagnation. Shareholders can't have the line be stagnant.
>>739333127I dont really care about any of that. Im just letting you know that that phrase makes you sound like pseudo-intellectual.
>>739333039>woke liberalNice oxymoron.
>>739333121>How do I exile them?You bully them. Ban them from forums. Exert control the way you've seen discord mods and tranny mobs do. If you don't have the power to do these things, you go out of your way to get the power to do these things.You have to stop accepting them in your spaces, and start saying things like, "oh you're a communist, and you called people slurs like nazi and fascist? Well get banned then."Stop tolerating them being in your spaces and start fighting to kick them out. Failure to push back and defend your hobbies from these rapists means the destruction and rape of your hobbies.
>>739333143That's a street performer not wearing mailI also wonder how anyone believes they know what gladiators, the ones who were supposed to die, actually wore
>>739333292The rule of cool still stood for gladiatoral combat. It's how you get bare-breasted women fighting in the arena or in someone's private villa as well.
>>739333282>"oh you're a communist, and you called people slurs like nazi and fascist? Well get banned then."This is hypoocritical and you would be acting like a facist by doing the stuff you suggest.
You don't get access to the US market if you don't put they/them pronouns in your game. This is noted in every game that has translations all over the globe, it's the US sensibilities that gets superseded as the English norm. Even Japan has quietly complained about this.
>>739333529>Wow, you're really gonna shoot your enemy just because they're trying to shoot you? Guess you're just as bad as them! >Better lay down your guns first to prove you're not a hypocrite!
>>739331207>Tranny players play tranny racesShocker
>>739333529Lefties use freedom of speech like how a Satanist would use the freedom of religion. In complete bad faith to subvert the native culture.
>>739333292Gladiators who were meant to die often were dressed as the enemies of Rome in propagandized events to commemorate their own defeats with replicating historical events, nobody was off limits, many of the Gladiator classes come from cultural references that are just Roman means of saying "Stereotypes of our fallen foes." Think re-enactment but deadly.
>>739333620>false equivilanceevery time.>>739333663>he thinks satanism is real
>>739333405>rule of cool>naked women fightingI can't tell if you like muscle mommies or sex
>>739333282>You bully them.I get banned.>Ban them from forums.I can't get moderator privileges.>Exert control the way you've seen discord mods and tranny mobs do.They already took over, they're the ones exerting control now.>If you don't have the power to do these things, you go out of your way to get the power to do these things.Like how? Pretend to be a tranny so I can attempt to dismantle a single den of evil with hours of drama only for 3 more to pop up?>You have to stop accepting them in your spaces, and start saying things like, "oh you're a communist, and you called people slurs like nazi and fascist? Well get banned then."I do that, I get banned and exiled.>Stop tolerating them being in your spaces and start fighting to kick them out. Failure to push back and defend your hobbies from these rapists means the destruction and rape of your hobbies.I stopped being quiet long ago. It just gets me banned. I even keep doing it to this day and all it does is get me banned. Even supposed anti-progressive "friends" of mine had meltdowns over me bullying trannies and reducing their clout by proxy. I'm fighting until I can't anymore, but the battle is lost, and by the time the tide turns in the war I'll probably be dead.
>>739333663>When you are in power I beg you for fairness and mercy, for that is your nature.>But when I am in power, I give you no fairness or mercy, for that is my nature.
>>739327512lol
>>739333529NTA but>When I'm weaker than you - you must support my freedoms according to your principles>When I'm stronger than you - I take away your freedoms according to my principlesThe only way to fight them is to show them no mercy. No prisoners, no survivors. That's what they do. That's how they kill men in the middle of a busy public gathering and get away with it. They will kill you if you don't kill them.
>>739333529>When I am Weaker Then You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles.It's not hypocrisy my man, I just noticed what you leftists do and what your principles are, and instead of treating you according to my principles, I am now adapting and treating you according to YOUR principles.It's called reciprocation. If you were the anon earlier who struggled with 'anti-natalism' and found it too "pseudo-intellectual" then I suggest looking up what that word means.
>>739334016>I am now adapting and treating you according to YOUR principlesYou are not adapting, you are merely acting according to your own principles but pretending to have some sort of moral high ground. >>739333975You are not fighting life or death battles over the state of D&D, calm the fuck down.
>>739331318Cringe take, so are Jews. Semites ain't white. All Mexicans are mixed race hybrids. They really need to update their woke racism bias to a more apt competitive racism tier list, its apparent you can't be a Jew and a white man (European) supporter, unless you as a Jew entirely reject state of Israel and their geopolitics of Zionism.
