https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPonvhPTRpIDark crusade style campaign and last stand confirmed, the animations still look clunky as fuck though, feels like devs are trying hard but aren't good enough to do it, I'm still fairly hopeful though
I'm coping that all the trailers have been premade like a year ago and are only now released, as bits and pieces of them have been seen before. So they don't show the progress on the animations, if there is any
>>739315109>I'm still fairly hopeful thoughI'm skeptical as fuck.
>>739315109dont carethere has only ever been one good dawn of war game
>>739315406Yes, but consider that the boss guy looks like a veteran Warhammer fan, that's gotta count for something
>>739315109>I'm still fairly hopeful thoughAfter DoW3?
>>739315682Relic shitters aren't developing this game, the IP went to the studio that made iron harvest after the dow3 flop.
>>739315682Not the same dev, smaller studio, not triple A. If it's gonna suck, it's gonna be for different reasons
>announcing multiple DLCs/expansions years into the future before the game is even out
>>739316216They were being pestered about that shit anyway, nobody wants a dow game with less factions that dow 1, and one of the reasons dow 3 flopped is because they only had SM, orks and eldar, and never added more
>>739315627those people are actually the worst, warhammer is the only hobby where secondaries are actively trying to save the hobbies from primaries
>>739316216That's how it works these days, not that it matters much, if it flops like dow3 and homeworld 3 the entire roadmap fizzles in a month and they will just abandon the game, we'll see what happens, still need to see proper gameplay.
It still looks mid, would wait for a Steam sale for this oneGoing to be the Concord of modern 40k games
The game looks trash and they already have a roadmap, KWAB
>>739315109>60 euro for base game>90 for base + dlcThis alone will kill the game. Doesn't matter if it's at least somewhat as good as DoW1, it's too expensive for a RTS in 2026.
>>739317746agree, if it's good I'll just buy it on keysites for 40 bucks or something
I'm extremely shit at RTS, should I start with 1 or 3 to try and get in the mindset for playing this one?
>>7393183133 is a MOBABuy DOW Definitive Edition and come back after beating all campaigns on Hard difficulty
The DLC and roadmap is a disaster, they should delay this game for an entire year and even release it on mid 2028
The 'First new faxction coming early 2027' becomes even less appealing qhen you realize it's just going to be fucking Dark Angels getting their bespoke units.
>>739318313Play 1 and 2, they are extremely different games, 1 is a more classic rts that is squad based, larger scale (it has some amazing mods to have fun though, like unification mod), 2 is more similar to company of heroes and the sp is more like a rpg, both are good on their own, skip 3 entirely.Supposedly dow4 goes back to the roots of the first game, I would still suggest playing the campaigns of each, multiplayer scene is also active if you are into that but everyone has been playing them for 20 years so you will get roflstomped.
>>739316425DoW3 had IG and Chaos NPC units and teased Necrons in the ending, but unsurprisingly any DLC plans got shafted when they abandoned the game.
>>739318398>>739318615noted, thanks fellers.Secondary question then I'll fuck off to download them (I apparently got the first one in a humble bundle at some point?):Are the anniversary editions fucked, or are they fine to play on?
>>73931540640K was always gay anyway
>>739315109I saw a dev preview and it had a bald, fat, probably on the spectrum German dude and in that moment i knew the game would be good
>>739318627DoW3 was fundamentally designed as a game nobody asked for and nobody wanted, there was no fixing it without starting from scratch. I don't think DoW4 is poisoned in the same way, nothing that can't be fixed or polished, whether they have the competence to deliver is to be seen
>>739316216yep. huge red flag.
DLC announced before release means it's cut to sell back to youwhy would I ever support that lmaotrash game.
Even if this game is successful somehow, i can tell that one new faction per dlc instead of two from the first game is going to hurt, especially considering they will most likely go Chaos and Eldar next.
>No Eldar>No Chaos >No nidsboring ahh game
>>739320875>especially considering they will most likely go Chaos and Eldar next.Lol no, it's Guard or Dark Angels. Most likely Dark Angels. Both already have assets in game, and Dark Angels would be absurdly easy to make their unique units as a 'new' release.Chaos is late 2027 at the earliest. Eldar are never happening.
>>739315109>Dark crusade style campaignInterest raped and murdered. Dark Crusade was the best expansion for the balance and races to use in skirmish. The campaign fucking blew ass.>>739315627As a Warhammer fan, I can safely inform you that I hate nothing more than Warhammer fans.
>>739321089non-buynary it is then
>still looks exactly like 3
Iron Harvest animations where good. Devs said they have some in house AI that is supposed to make the animations sync and transition better and feel more dynamic. I'm a bit cautious about it because yes, it does look a bit clunky.
>>739316216>posting frogsI can’t take this anymore.
>>739321072>>No Eldarlmaoooooo good. Imagine caring about space elves>>No Chaos >>No nidsthat's fair, hopefully one of them is gonna be the new faction they mentioned in the latest trailer
>>739321728Honestly why the fuck does anyone want elfdar back? They were always the worst part of DoW games.
DoW3 honestly wasn't that bad. Specially the orks, that was the most orky version out of all the 40k games. Even their voice acting was top notch despite that weird voice actor strike at the time.>YOU'VE GOT YA SHOTTA BOYS>COME OOOOONNNNN LETS DO IIIIIITTTTTT>IT'S A KILLA CAN NOTTA KILLA CANT!
>>739321993Because killing knife ears is always fun.
>>739318981anniversary editions are fine, iirc the first 1 one contains all the expansions, DoW1, winter assault, dark crusade and soulstorm.
>>739322014Sorry, nothing can beat spamming free sluggas from 10 da boys huts on repeat with rally points inside enemy base
>>739321125>Dark crusade style campaignOP wasn't being precise, the game will have a crusade mode where you do this Dark Crusade style take over territories on a planet, but the regular campaign is going to have normal scripted missions, not this overglorified skirmish mode from DC and SS.
They're really trying hard to replace the Blood Ravens in their own franchise.
>>739316216They had to prove they are not surrendering to CA and TW40K
>>739321089You'd think they'd split each faction into 2 different subfactions with small overlaps>SM: Blood Ravens (vanilla codex style combined arms army)/Dark Angels (unit specialist army) >Orks: Bad Moonz (classic ork army with more focus on dakka)/Beast Snaggaz (raid focused cavalry army)>Necrons: Royalists (vanilla slow tanky army)/Destroyer Cult (mobile glass cannon offensive army)>Admech: Explorators (map control oriented army)/Ordo Reductor (combat focused army)
>>739324376Blood Ravens are tacticool as that's their lore gimmick so Phobos units. Dark Angels are heavy and knightly so Terminators and Bladeguard and meleeOrks have goffs and snaggas
>>739316425Wrong. No one wanted 'more' of DoW3, despite what the tasteless bottom-feeders insist. From day one they were gloating about how all the 'moaners' would buy DoW3 anyway(they didn't, and still don't even when it's discounted -90%).nuRelic were unbelievably arrogant, having had a whole year since they showed the terrible gameplay off and getting the feedback on it to make changes, instead they doubled-down. They and Blackbird deserve to go bust forever.
>IGN: The story prologue returns to Aurelia, which I think is seared into my memory as it will be for many Dawn of War fans. Why did you decide that was the right place to go back to for the prologue?>Jan Theysen: When we announced that Dawn of War IV, you're not only playing the Blood Ravens, but also the Dark Angels, people were excited about the Dark Angels, but also, ‘Oh, why can't I play more of the Blood Ravens?’ And basically we said, ‘Okay, for everybody who's really all about Blood Ravens, we offer them just more Blood Ravens.’ And also answer maybe some of the questions people will have when they play the main game, which is basically, okay, what is with the rest of the chapter? Where is everybody? This kind of thing. And so we basically said, ‘Okay, let's make this the prologue to the main game that is all about the Blood Ravens.’ And that is the starting point, and then Aurelia came out of that.Lmao
>>739324508Raven Guard are the sneaky gitz and each codex chapter has Phobos equipped Vanguard companies, and the Blood Ravens' gimmick is having more Librarians than normal due to geneseed mutations, but I'd bet they'll conveniently forget about it again outside supplementary content.
>>739324791I'm still not sure why we ever have the dark angels, they should've been a dlc campaign or some shit, since they are basically there to steal the spotlight.
>>739324843Blood Ravens being just psykers is a retarded flanderization and they are never described like this. Honestly can't even blame it on secondaries since those guys apparently played DoW games. Has to be a tertiary meme. Grey Knights are the loyalist psyker focused chapter, with actually unique model range to reflect thisBlood Ravens are the most tacticool chapter save for Raptors. Only actual difference being using Librarians to PREDICT ENEMY MOVEMENT AND DEVISE PERFECT TACTICS (savescum). This is literally how Blood Ravens fight https://youtu.be/zWJIvlAEy-4?si=HD1uJx7cE8BcOHyw&t=137Every description of their combat doctrine and their playstyle in DoW games reflects this. In one of older codexes they are even described as training their Tactical and Devastator Squads in stealth.Which is why Phobos will be their focus in DoW4
>>739325562Different playstyle. Every faction has essentially two playstyles. In Marine case it's Tacticool (in campaign represented as Blood Ravens with Cyrus) and Knightly (in campaign represented by Dark Angels)
>>739324791I'd give it a chance if we get back Tarkus and CHAPLAIN DIOMEDES
>>739325562GW had a new Primarch model to sell. That's why.
I'd have more faith in Lelic than these retards. At least Relic had good RTS games in their catalogue.
>half of DoW content in last 10 years is made by russians>devs ban the game there right as pre-orders are allowed>wishlisting, however, was allowed since the announcement
>>739325708The Lion came out like three years ago now, it's hardly new as model releases go.
>>739326167>half of DoW content in last 10 years is made by russiansSuch as?
retards should have made it look like DoW2. Instead it looks like dow3
>>739326547dow 2 suchs
>>739326654It's the best, most grimdark looking dow game even if you don't like the gameplay
>>739315109>map editorAlright the game might not look perfect but I'm sold.It's probably going to be the best RTS in years and I can't be too picky.
>>739326547It doesn't look anything like Dow3. It looks like what Dow1 would've looked if it was made in 2026, with oversized heads and miniature proportions
>>739326547>>739327149It looks cartoony like first DoW. But it's already brutally mogged by DoW2 artstyle, despite lower res textures and simpler models in DoW2.
$60 for a RTS in 2026 is downright retarded.
>>739327694I agree. Well, they did say that they want to make a full return to the vibe of DoW 1, so their choice of artstyle is intentional and I can't fault them for that. For me the perfect atmosphere for a Dawn of War game was in the trailer for 3. Holy fuck, just thinking how badly they dropped the ball with that one still makes me mad
>>739327694It's impressive how well DoW2's graphics hold up to the present day.
>>739315109so by looking at the AFTERMATH banner, can someone tell me their best guess for the faction?Sure as shit isn't muh nids...
Why are the Dark Angels not being advertised for DOW4 despite them being revealed very early on?Are they the new DLC faction kek?
The Blood Ravens under Cyrus is the 10th company it looks like with all of those Phobos users all aroundYuge mistake, all of them should have been present on Kronus
>>739315109What CSM legion will it be for the DLC?
>>739328907Assuming that's a hint (believing such things already fucked over admechfags with Hive Ganger in Darktide)>hazard stripesCSM Iron Warriors lol. Total War:40k will have CSM dlc as first one as well, we know they have them already in some form. Peter turbo will arrive eventually, GW showed his art already, may as well drop him alongside his animated version in campaign in DoW4
>>739324791>Flat out admitting that Dark Angels are taking the spotlight from the Blood RavensI hate Primarchs so fucking much.
>>739329372Black Legion
When sisters
>>739329904they're sistas now
Anyone play the Boltgun 2 demo?Loved the part where you get swamped by a horde of poxwalkers with the Krieg
DRAGON BAYBEE
>>739315109Admech was such a bad choice for a release faction.
>>739329372most likely black legion, possibility of an Iron Warrior release depending on GWs release schedule
>>739315330Are you sure about that?Considering their animation tech you'd think they would show it offBut it certainly explains how certain animations look so janky like the bikes
>>739326692my asshole looks more grimdark than dow2
>>7393289071 chaos factionnext expansion will be 1 chaos faction and taunext will be 1 chaos faction and tyranidthen the game will eos
>>739327694Dow2 just looks shittier in every way hereBut anyway those two shots are horrible for comparison
>>739331267They are perfect, both screenshots showing off ork faction and it's leaders.DoW4 is cartoony, everything looks worse from flat, devoid of detail texture on a face to similarly boring teeth and metal. DoW2 mogs
Since we're talking DoW... >Any tips for the DoW2 Chaos Rising mod - Ultimate Exterminatushttps://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-exterminatus/downloads/ultimate-exterminatus-complete-editionI'm starting it now after finishing an importing a baseline classic playthrough of the standard campaign, but Chaos Rising I am thinking of doing with UE since it has the ability to have all your units deployed at the same time and a fuckload of new graphics, weapons, and other content. However, its SO different I'm not sure about gearing up my characters and their skills right from the start. Anyone played through CR campaign with it?
>>739330389No flayed ones no paid ones
>>739331267You are fucking blind
>>739315771>>739315907Iron Harvest is worse than Dawn of War 3.
>>739332254never heard of it but might be cool
>>739331571>DoW2 >Detail you would never get on a Model of the time>Dow 4>Analagous with an Ork Warboss model in detailThat's why
Compare that trailer to this
>>739330568I'm blaming some big producer on the team for that one. They couldn't get him to change his mind even though they tried to reason with him.
>>739332674Yeah, 4 has this ugly style that tries to evoke the actual tabletop models. The original did that gimmick better with proportions and colors. 4 makes all the characters and weapons feel like small soldiers miniatures came to life. 2 decided to try and make it more detailed and realistic, which I think they pulled off. 3 was like an impossibly high budget cartoony chinese mobile game, hideous yet undeniably high-effort.
They WILL add Death Guard because Death Guard gets all the shit for some reason
>>739315109>4 factionsA step up from DOW3 at least but still>Sad trombone
>>739324130Blood Angels were a Relic made chapter that's why.This new company has no attachment
>>739327896its a warhammer game first and a rts second, and warhammer fans will pay 60$ for a decent game
>>739332694ill take the trailer, dow2 is lame af
>>739315109no preorders
>>739332254I did a playthrough of it a couple months back, it still kinda plays mostly similarly to the originals in terms of builds, but you have more options to choose from and commander equipment is way less restricted, meaning that the other squadmates can equip iron halos, banners etc. and each commander equipment type grants stats with different distributions.You also missed out a gimmick used in the modded vanilla game where you can call in a support squad of generic infantry once per mission that can't be killed and you can choose their loadout. It does comes back in CR in the best possible way.
>>739333983You are lameAND gay
Base game is surprisingly cheap.... <<<cheap>>>
>>739333376DoW1 and DoW2 started with 4, this shouldn't be surprising as it's the bare minimum after the debacle with DoW3.
>>739336953any advice on builds and gear? There seems to be a lot of options. Like there's some gear that is a >donate to librarium and instead of selling for XP you get another version!and my Cmdr has a version of supposedly Chaplain armor etc. Of course this is right at the start so all of my Terminator gear is out of commission until repaired by a techmarine I've yet to meet. Same way I got a fuckload of gear for the Librarian that I;'ve not met yet
>>739326330Rogue Trader and Space Marine 2 were developed by Russian devs.
>>739338901Neither of those are DoW, imbecile.
>>739338052Donating some armor like the chaplain armor will just change it to a different cosmetic model, while some other armors can be exchanged to swap between stats that benefit ranged or melee. A lot of the accessories and armors have also been rebalanced, helmets and armors have various archetypes like "Assault" that boosts melee skill, melee damage etc or "Devastator" that boosts range and ranged damage etc. As for builds, some abilities have been rebalanced and shifted around, but it'll mostly end up similarly to unmodded. Equips also provide a ton of bonus points so you don't have to completely fill up trees if you can compensate, and IIRC you get a few more opportunities to respec. It's hard to brick your playthrough unless you're doing a Primarch run where you're basically forced to build into cheese (pic related was on Captain before Ulkair).
>>739315109The launch is genuinely missing a baller cinematic trailer to get people amped. Everything I've seen so far gives me the impression I'm playing with some dorky toy soldiers instead of some heavy metal shit like muhreenz storming a monolith. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa6F-DuVmIo
>>739316216Gamers are such shit eating slop lovers that they've grown accustom to judging games not on the state they release in but on the state they promise to be in 3 years down the road. You see this everywhere to the point content being withheld from release to be sold later as DLC is celebrated by some because it "extends the life of the game".Look at reactions to the 40K Total War, everyone accepts as a matter of fact it will be garbage and bare bones on release but the mentality is "let them cook, this will be great $300 of DLC later!"
>$90 for a DLC that will be dogshit
