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>Dawntrail caused FFXIV to bleed half their playerbase if not more
>meanwhile FFXI has had so many new players they had to close off a server due to overpopulation and temporarily stop selling the game on the square enix shop
Are we about to see a WoW classic/Old School Runescape level resurgence for FFXI?
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I don't know but I was actually thinking of trying it, never played it before but I have thousands of hours in ff14. Have been unsubbed for over a year from ff14 but kinda missing ff in general.
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FFXI: Vana'diel Reborn.
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They've closed three servers, but also please refrain from using XIV shitposting to spur on a XI thread.
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>>739329493
I fucking love XI I've played it on and off for years. Kind of annoying that I come back after a few years for my server "Odin" to suddenly be crowded as fuck

Anyway, decided to torture myself and gear a RDM
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>immediately try to start an XI thread kvetching about Dawntrail
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>>739329493
>resubbed after fanfest
>all i was the msq, raid and alliance raid
>spent the other 25+ days just doing daily beast tribe quests
>maxed them all
>still got 5 days left
>all the beast tribe quests were garbage and made me lose interest
see you guys in like...2 month or 1 month before evercold if im still interested
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>>739329773
FF14 has that free 4 days for returning players right now if you want to catch up on your MSQ before the expansion hits. FF11 is on sale through the 29th so you can do both if you want to.
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>>739329493
>FFXI has had so many new players
The FFXI Alliance Raid was really goodIn japanese. That's the reason for the FFXI resurgence. Especially the ending. Very heartfeltIn Japanese.
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>>739329493
>xi has no tit godess
>awful login
>awful installer

fix all those 3 (i'm happy with 2 and 3 really) and i'll play
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really, i don't want to pay $13 a month to play a 20+ year old game that i'm perpetually behind in and where i'll have to play a support job for years before i can gear up a dd.
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>>739331502
there is only one true Goddess
and her name is Altana
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>>739330394

why? the expansion doesn't release til next year

hop on reign of the warlock instead
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>>739331771
looks like a corpse
The true Goddess of Fertility and Bounty reigns supreme.
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>>739331502
>awful login/installer
I thought so too at first but it's kinda sovlfvl once you figure it out. It's frutiger aero as fuck, I miss this type of shit. Good music too.
https://youtu.be/bepVadmtkgk
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>>739332045
>fake goddess (actually a primal) hag who suicided herself
hard pass
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>>739332045
The 12 arent gods theyre retards who stole godhood
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>>739331771
Altana is too busy thinking about Promathias fast purple cock
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>>739332227
That shit took me almost three days to fully install back when it first released in the US
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>>739332248
>>739332276
Myths of the Realm was such a fucking mistake
what the fuck were they thinking?
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How realistic is to start FFXI with a friend in 2026? From scratch?
I read the free trial has been expanded, so why not?
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>>739332276
>>739332248
And has massive tits, your point?
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>>739332365
I thought it was a fine epilogue to Endwalker

At least it was in universe and not a fucking retarded nostalgia bait cross over or a literal advertisement like 24 man raids usually are
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>>739332372
very easy
https://www.playonline.com/ff11us/
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>>739332372
The free trial doesn't include any expansions still, so you really can't do that much.
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>>739332372
There's never been a better time in the last 12+ years to start FFXI

https://youtu.be/Ev6F-29IqiI?si=CRpslDDePHf2X3JD

Arguably this is the best time since Promathia to be a new player
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>>739332372
play pserver instead
they are extremely easy to install and login compared to retail
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>>739332365
What was wrong with Myths of the Realm?
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>>739332572
fuck off thirdworlder
all pservers should be shutdown
Retail is the only way to actually complete all of the expansions and story
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>>739332372
Very realistic

https://youtu.be/vVv2o356PZI?si=QtABPf5eKvM4A5WM
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>>739332656
it's not about money, you absolute retard
when you at jank in the dictionary, the playonline logo appears
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>>739332598
imo too easy almost bordering on being afraid to be hard, most bosses were uninspired in mechanical design, eulogia at the very end was visual dogshit

unironically if myths of the twelve had released a year or two later, i would have suspected eulogia of being an AI generated design
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>>739332656
>Retail is the only way to actually complete all of the expansions and story
NTA but there is 1 other way. Youtube.
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>>739332656
NTA but I love retail but 75 era is also a great experience. Sometimes I play on them but I always have an active retail sub when I do.
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>>739332729
That's every 24 man theyre made for retards to clear
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>>739332823
the FFXI raids had a surprising amount of nutsack, it isn't a "like ohmygawwwwwd alliances so ezzzzzz" thing it's very specifically a "myths of the realm is really fucking easy" thing
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>>739330002
Phoenix will be closed soon too
Literally newfags everywhere rn
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>>739332457
What in terms of core gameplay aspects is locked behind expansions? Meaningful Job options?
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>>739332953
Like 1/2 the game's jobs
95% of the game's plot
70% of the game's areas
Leveling beyond level 50
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>>739332953
More than half the jobs
Obv the story
I'm assuming it locks you at lv 50

It's enough for you to decide if you're interested enough in the game to buy it
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>>739332953
Most jobs, most zones, most quests. To put it into perspective, FFXI launched in the west with the first expansion included. The free trial does not include that, you get less content than the NA/EU players did at launch.
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>>739329493
i played when horizonxi started and it was a blast. the AH was empty, no one had any gear, and there was lots of people in the starting zones which made it fun to play. i'd love it if SE did some FFXI classic servers.
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>>739332880
Yeah wouldn't surprise me if Phoenix is closed soon. Just started playing there and shits bumping, there are people everywhere.
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Anyone on any of the low population servers? I'm on Quetzalcoatl
Also holy shit I can't believe they're going to have to close Phoenix soon
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>>739333087
>if you're interested enough
You could decide that in 2 weeks with the previous trial. I assume it has something to do with server infrastructure updates
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>>739333142
RoTZ is so good too they really should have included it in the trial. Great lead in to CoP
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>>739332656
retail is a snoozefest filled with easy warps and NPCs that you party with instead of real players
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>>739333340
I disagree
Mission 1-5 and Zilart are weak stories. Zilart has some hype moments but the actual good story doesn't start until CoP
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>>739333351
You party with real players for everything at endgame. Leveling parties were just moved to Lv99 as capacity point parties
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LOOOOOOLLL. WOMP WOMP CHUDBOY AINT NO UNBANNING YOUR RACIST ASS LMAAAAOO. GOOD RIDDANCE #PACKWATCH
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>>739333449
This is an XI thread no one cares about XIV streamer drama
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>>739333449
Fuck wrong thread
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>>739333415
that's what I'm saying, RoTZ is hype and gets you interested in going into CoP. The Ark Angels are hype as fuck.
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>>739333351
Still better than playing on p.servers with people who are trying to get clout for accomplishments from 20 years ago + NEET play all day
The amount of fucking no lifers on Horizon with multiple relics is disgusting

Oh and none of them have feature complete content so why bother
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>>739333449
Hello, we're having a comfy XI thread here. Delete your post, thanks.
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>>739333191
is it really bad being on a low pop server, is there any kind of cross-server dungeon queue or anything like other MMOs?
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>>739333643
There is no sort of queuing or auto grouping of any kind in this game. Its from when MMOs actually required you to interact with people to get stuff done.
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>>739333643
It limits your ability to pug for groups and makes the economy weaker.
And no, this is an MMO made on ps2 dev kits. You play with who is on your server and that's it.
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>>739333643
nope, you've got guys on your server and that's it. The low pop isn't too bad since everyone's at endgame anyways. Actually it makes it easier to farm shit since no one's taking the NMs, but once it hits American night then there's fucking no one around. Also the Economy sucks, and you have to make half the shit yourself since no one's selling, and if they are selling then it's way too fucking expensive since there's no competition. Or just ask a friend. You get pretty cozy with everyone since you only ever see the exact same 100 people, so try not to piss anyone off
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>>739333643
>queue
Heh
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>>739333534
I mean if you play XI on retail now, if you want to participate in end game the gear disparity is so gigantic between you and established players that you're forced into the cuck chair for a year at least instead of playing the job you actually want to play.

Horizon is probably similar now that everyone has 4 relics but Phoenix(the upcoming private server) should allow you to play whatever at launch. It'd be cool if Square offered official classic servers, that'd make the private servers completely obsolete.
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>>739333868
>I mean if you play XI on retail now, if you want to participate in end game the gear disparity is so gigantic between you and established players that you're forced into the cuck chair for a year at least instead of playing the job you actually want to play.
Depends but you're right for the most part. Find a decent LS and it wont matter most of the time. Or just enjoy playing support or healer and you'll have a great time getting into whatever content you want
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>>739333868
>if you want to participate in end game the gear disparity is so gigantic between you and established players that you're forced into the cuck chair for a year at least instead of playing the job you actually want to play.
just team up with other newfags who don't want to jump straight into VD tier
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>>739333735
yeah so was World of Warcraft until they changed that too, i was just curious if FFXI had made that change in the last two decades of it being active because older MMOs sometimes have issues with getting people together to do content and it's a pretty no nonsense solution to that issue. it was awful when WoW did it because the game was still in its heyday but it's not a terrible feature on ancient MMOs like this with 20 expansions or whatever.
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>>739333534
>why bother
because it's fun? you dumbfucks buy "early access" games all the time and don't complain. the feature complete content is all created the hard way btw since SE refuses to release any sort of sever-side client for the game. the whole server backend is basically made by packet sniffing what the client expects to receive and then coding it, which is why things take so long.

no lifers are on every game btw. poor argument. i fail to see how you have fun at ANY game if that is what stops you from playing something.
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>>739333449
Extremely funny but wrong thread
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>>739334052
It's not needed with XI the community is very social where it matters. You probably won't find people to level with you because veterans can speed to 99 in less than a day but for endgame stuff you'll be good with finding a linkshell
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>>739334072
Private server content development has been frozen for literally a decade at this point
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>>739333449
brown or tranny posting this slop here?
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>>739334295
Even though horizonxi was supposed to release expansions lmao

Nasomi implemented ToAU jobs and zones but no quests (which was intended i think)

Horizonxi is stalled, got probably a few more years before its dead
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I have an account but want to convince my friend to play too

Can he play with me normally on a free trial account or is it heavily restricted? I can start a new character/account with him
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So, Yvenoile has dialogue with i _think_ nagmolada where she asks him a kind of rhetorical sounding question "Why do you think Promathia's face is smooth?"

This is implying that the Zilart can remember the faces of the gods except for Promathia right? In regards to the Zilarts "memories" really just being Promathia's memories because Altana used his Emptiness to create the enlightened races?
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>>739335068
No one other than the Gods has ever seen Promathia's face because Promathia was already dead when Vana'diel was created.
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XI is pure SOVLNVKE
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Be honest /v/
I stopped playing XI in 2013 but want to try it again just to enjoy the story and have fun with a friend

Should we play retail from 0 or go to horizon/eden? We dont have a lot of time to play because we play XIV and have jobs
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>>739334970
I want to say it's hit with the normal restrictions, no parties, small gil cap, etc. It's an antiquated timed free trial with a low level cap.

They are updating their free trial in the near future to go up to level 75 and last an unlimited amount of time, no word on exactly when though. It'll work like it does in XIV where you can play most of the game for free forever.
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I played Retail some time back and basically finished off everything I got stuck on back in the day, couldn't be bothered to go further as it started to become too much of a time investment (mainly with shit like needing to come back 2 hours later to continue)
Did Horizonxi for a bit but the LS I was in wasn't great and it seems these fags will never got the expacs working, would 100% play FFXI classic but honestly doubt they'd ever do it
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>>739335280
Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about.

The Zilart characters claim to have memories of paradise before Altana fragmented it. This is why the brothers want to open the Gates to Paradise in RoZ. I'm asking it the memories they have are actually Promathias, hence the "Do you know why [his] face is smooth?" line, Yvenoile knows this and is trying to nudge Nagmolada towards realizing it too. They can't "recall" his face in their "memories" while they can recall "memories" of looking at other gods because theyre his memories
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>>739335391
Retail, it's very quick and easy to progress as well as being the entire game. It's also getting new content and new updates monthly. Private servers are only for the "I want to play for 3 days and quit" crowd.
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>>739335391
If you don't have a lot of time then don't play private servers.
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the game was good when there was nothing better
and i don't mean storywise, but gameplaywise

XI needs way more than an unlimited free trial that has no xpac content
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>>739335391
just play a different game
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>>739329493
I have never played an MMO longer than about an hour. My ex made me create some catboy FFXIV character in the tutorial and I fell asleep. Should I give XIV another try, or maybe XI? I'd be able to play for like.. an hour or two each night
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>>739335553
>The Zilart characters claim to have memories of paradise before Altana fragmented it.
They actually only have the brief vision Eald'narche got when he touched the Al'taieu crystal. It was broadcast throughout the entire race because of the Whisper of the Soul.
>I'm asking it the memories they have are actually
I never thought about it, but probably.
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>>739335521
>would 100% play FFXI classic but honestly doubt they'd ever do it
It would be the same timesink(but fun) gameplay as it was back then, youd still not enjoy it and quit. They also will never do an official classic because it requires too many players to function properly. People stick with private servers because they aren't official, they are free and they have an inside track with the admins to get free shit, it's an ego pyramid scheme.
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>>739335572
>3 days and quit
horizonXI regularly has 1800 or more online at any given time. shut up with this nonsense.
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>>739335391
Horizon isn't worth it with a new private server from most of the devs behind it opening in 4 months. Doing a fresh run on a new server would be better experience, otherwise stuck to retail or play the kino single player fan game.
https://xim.pages.dev/?mode=game
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>>739335709
For the average person that's all the enjoyment you'll get out of it, the only people that stay playing are >>739335698. You have to remember that private servers, especially horizon, are not era accurate, they are OC donut steel recreations and the balance and rules are enforced at the whim of the admins and their friends.

You aren't experiencing the game as it was in 2005, you are cattle for the server runners to gloat over.
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>>739335553
>>739335068
???: I seek no salvation.
I only wish to know the truth.

???: Dawnmaiden Yve'noile.
You, who resonates with the Spirit of the Goddess, should be able to answer my question.

???: Was I born to carry out the will of Divine Promathia?

???: Or was I born to thwart his designs?

Yve'noile: Ah, a most interesting dilemma...

Yve'noile: Why dost thou think the face of Promathia is smooth and unfeatured?

???: I don't know...

Yve'noile: All those who follow the Lady of the Dawn gaze upon her visage.

Yve'noile: However, none have ever seen the face of Promathia...

Yve'noile: He vanished from Paradise upon his death.
That is why we pray for his resurrection.

Yve'noile: For his resurrection, and his destruction...

I don't see anything in that dialogue which implies they have Promathia's consciousness
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I tried XI for the first time last year but rage quit when it turned out (about an hour's game time later) that I didn't receive some key item because my inventory was full. The complete lack of QoL really, really annoyed me.

But shit, I probably did talk to strangers in XI more in that one week than I did in years in XIV.
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When does retail get fun? Just raping everything with trusts atm
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>>739335941
You just go back and talk to the npc, it's not the games fault you can't read the chat log and don't pay attention. Also key items don't go into your inventory and you cannot be unable to receive them.
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>>739335698
>it's an ego pyramid scheme.
That's part of what put me off private desu, I know some will say you can ignore it and obviously yeah, but it's ridiculous seeing how hard some people tie themselves to an ancient game
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>>739335962
Leveling from 1-99 is unironically the new tutorial so sadly you've got a ways to go
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>>739335962
When you reach 99 and start doing capacity point parties and ambuscade with a LS, or while doing Chains of Promathia
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>>739335907
>I don't see anything in that dialogue which implies they have Promathia's consciousness
It's the big reveal of CoP. All mankind was born to harbor fragments of Promathia's soul. Its qualities didn't manifest in the Zilart immediately, but the Kuluu are the result of his darkness beginning to show its effects on them, thus why they had to create the Chamber of Eventide to vacuum it out.
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>>739335837
>new private server
Name?
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>>739335962
The leveling process and storylines are separate endeavors, you can start the storylines whenever you want.
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>>739335852
they are as accurate as possible based on what they can find on the internet about how mechanics work, what spells should do and etc. SE has never been known to be exact on how the game mechanics work so there is no "baseline" to go by.

you will NEVER experience the game as it was in 2005. ever. it is impossible and thus something stupid to compare to. even retail now is nothing like it was in 2005.
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>>739336082
Horizon is not accurate, they purposely redesigned jobs, ripped out and replaced mechanics, and added "QoL" features to the game.

Please no one wants to deal with private server addicts, go back to your thread on /vm/
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>>739336051
Phoenix(which is ironically the name of the retail server currently popping off)
https://phoenix-xi.com/
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>>739335907
>I don't see anything in that dialogue which implies they have Promathia's consciousness

Not in that dialogue no, but later in the expac you learn that in order to prevent Promathia from dying, Altana used his Emptiness to create the Zilart, Kuluu, and playable races, meaning he is the father of all the enlightened races and they all carry a part of him
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>>739336047
Yeah but that doesn't mean they have his memories any more than any of the other enlightened races have memories of their past selves
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Is getting a non-yellow chocobo a pain in the ass that takes an entire month ?
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>>739335995
Maybe it wasn't a key item but it was something I needed for the quest I was on and I just couldn't be fucked to traipse back across the map to get it, then traipse back to where I already was. Anyway, that was just the straw that broke the camel's back. There was plenty I liked about XI but way too many design features from that era that were far too aggravating for me to play with in 2025. It still irks me I haven't played through XI but I don't know if I have the time or patience for it anymore.
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>>739335668
>My ex made me create some catboy FFXIV character in the tutorial and I fell asleep
You might need to see a doctor about that narcolepsy. That ain't normal.
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>>739330394
should have just waited for the free login campaign. I caught up on the MSQ, did the raid series and alliance raids, unlocked all the level 100 dungeons, and i didn't have to give square enix a cent
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>>739335668
no, neither of these games are worth it
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>>739335668
it depends, do you like oldschool MMO grinding? XI can have a lot of it. XIV is just very story focused and not really a MMORPG, it's a single player story game with online features and lobbies but it's multiplayer entirely as an afterthought. if you like story heavy RPGs like Final Fantasy i don't see what the problem would be.
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this dumb bitch apururu burns through 100% her of MP in like 5 seconds
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So Phoenix is the one getting clogged now? I put the game down a couple of years ago after ToAU and one of the main contributors was that everyone there was weird. They'd act super nice only to ghost me a few days after the fact. Is it better now?
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I decided to fight Maat without trusts to see if he was as hard as I remembered and I got my ass kicked
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>>739336776
She gets better at 99
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There's no reason to hang onto sub-level 99 gear right unless I need it for leveling another job later?
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>>739336925
There's no reason to hang onto sub 99 gear that you have from leveling. There's some sub 99 accessories that you will want for some jobs
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>>739336925
haste and multiple jobs, keep
otherwise toss
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>>739336776
Use Sylvie instead if you want a healer that doesn't waste their MP
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>>739336842
Using trusts to fight Maat is cheating
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>>739337023
>There's some sub 99 accessories that you will want for some jobs
Is there a list so I can start looking out for them before I toss them by mistake?
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>>739337134
Sylvies not nearly as good a healer and apururu already struggles at 99. You pick sylvie for her geo buffs/debuffs
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>>739337191
You won't have these accessories so don't worry about it
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I'm like completely new to this game. Linkshells are essentially the guilds/free companies of this game, right?
Also can I get by on controller or is the later content real sweaty and needs kb/m precision?
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>>739337268
My current gear situation is grim (Still leveling)
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>>739337298
Yes and controller is the optimal way to play
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>>739337347
WRONG
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>>739337298
you only need a keyboard to make your skill macros. and i say "need" out of convenience more than anything else. even chatting can be done entirely with controller.
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>>739337340
I mean you're 77 so it doesn't really matter. Get some sparks gear if you're struggling
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>>739337440
Sparks doesn't have accessories/neck/waist/back
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>>739337440
>sparks
This is the cowards route. Go farm some NMs instead
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>>739337340
funny how that belt would be worth like millions and millions and millions of gil if it existed during the CoP-ToAU era
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>>739333191
Ragnarok chads rise the FUCK UP
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>>739337576
Yeah or you can do this
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>>739337340
you likely won't get stuff after 75, it goes abyssea to 76-90 and 91-99 doesn't have anything. People get Perle and shit, but honestly I just stayed with the Homam
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Are NMs like Khimaira and Cerberus still camped/killed on cooldown or can I go kill them for nostalgia easily?
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>>739334072
Any game that exploits poopsockers is morally wrong.
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>>739337340
get the wyvern earrings
do it
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>have to beat WotG to be able to farm a BCNM to get a WS set for RDM

I will never do that, I'm happy as a debuff bot
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>>739337787
Unless youre on Asura where gil mafias control EVERYTHING there will probably be no competition for them
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>>739337802
I guess that reminds me, what SHOULD I be saving/using my Beastman seals on?
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>>739337863
Trade them to Shami in port jeuno to store/trade up, at 99 you might want to use them to farm a BCNM boss for gear
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>>739337926
What is still relevant from BCNM era at 99??
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>giving Shit Enix your money
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>>739329773
>>739332372
I had over 10k hours in XIV before I tried XI and currently have over 300 days playtime in XI
Even starting retail now there's a lot to catch up on and do; you're not missing out by starting now
Huge learning curve but very deep and engaging when building gearsets and learning the intricacies of combat and how unique each job is, which I still can't say I know everything about today, not even close
Big recommendation for anyone who thinks they'd like the above
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>>739337962
Not sure. I know for sure I did some for my warrior. Some were scaled up to 99
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I need more MIthra trusts
I want a full catgirl harem
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>>739337863
whatever you want, you can buy plenty with login points so spending them isn't that big a deal.
Some have spells that can only be obtained there (or at AH), and I think you can get mannequins from some of them which are just cool furniture you can equip with gear in your house
If you want, you can play Up in Arms for a 0.5% chance at Kraken Club though
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>>739329493
Have they updated the controls for it, or is it all still menu based controller shit?
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>>739338110
>have they changed the controls to be like wow, or is it still kino?
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>>739338110
it's still final fantasy 11
or you can download a hundred plugins to play like XIV with a hotbar and clickable skills with cooldowns shown on the side
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Anyone who hasn't logged in in a while probably should do so for picrel during the current anniversary campaign, if you're interested
It's unconditional +50% when equipped
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>>739338170
I'll stick with p99 EQ then
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>>739338301
FFXI is EQ but good
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>>739338325
Not with that control scheme it's not.
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>>739338404
Filtered by a controller you sound like my grandpa
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>>739338207
FUCK gotta redownload XI now
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>>739336003
>>739336041
you've gotta be niggering me
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I don't know what to do. I just started a new character on horizon in the fortress/town with the red symbol. It just spawned me infront of a moogle house
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>>739338587
Speak to a gate guard and have them cast signet on you then go outside and start killing things
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>>739338498
they are memeing
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>>739338587
you already messed up
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>>739338620
>>739338648
I also decided on hume red mage b t w
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>>739338587
talk to every NPC
yes EVERY NPC
>>739338636
no, they're telling the truth, the real game starts at 99 now. Levelling from 1-99 has been simplified
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>>739338704
But there are so many, nyooo ._.
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>>739338587
speak to the person next to the gate to do tutorial missions so you get the xp boost band. then go out and kill shit after you get the signet boost. sell crystals in stacks of 12 to fund yourself.
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>>739338697
good choice, job doesn't really matter since you can change it whenever you want. And I think they actually recently added a race-change service like a couple moths ago.
>>739338743
better get to work, buddy
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>>739338798
specifically in the auctionhouse to be precise
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>>739338798
>sell crystals
don't do this
or if you do do this then sell them on the Auction House, not to NPCs
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>>739338798
>>739338830
Thanks guys. I will give it a go
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>>739338697
Make sure you level your enfeebling magic skill as you level
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>>739338887
Do this, it creates mustard gas
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>>739330002
Dawntrail shit on XIV enough that no one really needs to pile on.
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>>739333191
I really regret restarting on Asura for a buddies LS, now they've all quit and I can't even invite people to join me on the server. I'd consider a world transfer but then I'd be fucked if the new server group disappeared on me too since I couldn't go back.
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>>739339107
Do it, pull the trigger, go to Cerberus
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>>739334170
To be fair, even a newbie can get to 99 pretty quickly since Limit Break quests aren't massive cockblockers at this point. Just get Shantotto II and laugh your way to 99.
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Best way to do my WS break quest if I don't have Ayame?
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>>739339339
get ayame
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Shikaree Z is a trust but X and Y aren't??? Literally unplayable
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>>739339339
valaineral -> 2 mobs -> aoe ws and hope you can sc off it
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>>739339541
but I'm Windurst
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what jobs will get me invites and carried
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>>739339591
You shouldn't need to be bastok, go get her right now
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Trust:_Bastok
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>>739339591
you can get her regardless of nation affiliation
If you don't want to, then you can just use maximillian
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>>739339602
DRG
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>>739339107
really curious what the situation will be like when they finally change the free trial which is when i'll start playing
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>>739339602
BST
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>>739338704
Leveling has been simplified but the storylines are mostly 1-75 content. The game does not "start" at 99.
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>>739339767
Once you get trusts, you do not face a single challenge until level 99
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>>739339152
What is Cerberus like?

>>739339339
Literally just go get Ayame lmao.
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>>739339852
exactly the same as your server, but with less people
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>>739338041
are you jelly?
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>>739339898
I only use Elvaan trusts
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>>739339818
Siren says hello. Though to be fair she is really the only "hard" thing you fight leveling to 99 unless you skip on doing Rhapsodies missions(why would you do this though?)
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>>739339852
>>739339674
I have autism and didn't want to get her until I could get all the trust cutscene dialogue
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>>739339891
So mercs run monopolize everything and spam nonstop /shouts in literally every location a lvl 99 might frequent?
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Is horizon any closer to ToAU?
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>>739339986
do all trusts make the game effortless or can you use some that still require you interact with the content more or less as intended?
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>>739339602
Real answer: GEO, BRD, COR, RDM, WHM
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Is there anything I can transfer to my alt that's worth it with mog pells or no?
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>>739340353
don't do BRD, it has the highest gear expectations of any job
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>>739340242
Trusts stop carrying you at 99. There's some things you'll be able to solo due to your job or gear but you need real people
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>>739340145
Nah thats still only Asura thank God, I was worried Odin became that when I saw how much the population exploded there
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>>739339898
How do I make the graphics look that good? Is that default or do you have some add-ons?
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>>739340242
Shantotto II makes things pretty easy, but you can still fuck things up and die even with her. But that's just talking about pre-99 stuff, at 99 you are gonna want a party with actual players for any actually challenging content. Even if you are i119 in every slot. Honestly for me the best part of trusts was being able to get a bunch of key items that make moving around shit zones like Garlaige Citadel easier, or if I wanted to go farm something I may need for another job.
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>>739340242
nigger they're not an insta-win button. they help but you'll still get fucked if you try fighting stronger NMs or a pack of high level shit
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I'm almost home bros....
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>>739340550
I use external launcher "Windower" it has easy settings you can tinker with and addons. no graphical mods needed.
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>>739329493
>>Dawntrail caused FFXIV to bleed half their playerbase if not more
Well if the 1.5m active player count of Endwalker is to be believed then DT killed 80% of the playerbase since the most accurate number we got after the whole blacklist scrape debacle was about 300k unique active users from month to month.
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>>739341062
New players should use this. 1080 at the correct aspect ratio and 60 fps
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>>739340242
Just use the Child Trusts and you're golden
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>>739341447
New Players should play in 240p, 12 fps, and 900 ping on an overheating PS2 with a malfunctioning controller on dialup being interrupted by your sister talking to her gay ass friends all day as God intended
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what's so special about phoenix server anyway? is there anything to look forward to outside of being at the ground floor of a new server?
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>>739341845
you can
uuuhhhhhh

it's got
uuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
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>>739330002
>>739330256
>reee dont shit on bad game being bad
EHL OH EHL
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>>739340216
not really, but it would be insane if they didn't launch toau like a week before phoenix comes out since they get all of phoenix's changes for free
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>>739341940
This is now a Yandere Sim thread
let's talk about how much better FFXI is compared to Yandere Sim
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ain't no way uncs still play final slop
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I begrudgingly peered into Gulkeeva's gooncave and there was only like two paltry dat archives.
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>>739342372
Speaking of which what are some good dats for font and icon changes. Just resubbed after a few years
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>>739330163
i don't get this mindset, surely the servers being full is good for a old, previously dying MMO right? or is it just 'muh secret club' shit?
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>>739342782
A lot of (not all) of FFXI content is uninstanced so overcrowded servers can be a nuisance.
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>>739342272
I wish mods would wordfilter 'unc' to 'ojisan' or something like what they used to do 100 years ago when 4chan was good
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>>739342372
So much "culture" gone. I've heard the main dat backups from the site are available on Discord(but who the fuck uses that?)

>>739342565
Good ole >>739342565
XIView is still the best, I think there is one one Nexusmods that's pretty good too.
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>>739329493
That sounds like complete bullshit.
>it's true
What the fuck, why?
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>>739342976
Because Asura, Bahamut, and Odin are overcrowded right now
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>>739342976
servers are getting too full. Ancient PS2 tech leading to hard limits on server population, or else they will literally run out of space and crash the server. They already ran out of space to add new trusts, and they're very quickly approaching the item limit. It's literally impossible for them to add new storage options for everyone because of the old ps2 software limitations
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>>739343093
Nah they finally moved the dev tools to PC, theyre not stuck on PS2 devkits anymore
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>>739336773
>XIV is just very story focused and not really a MMORPG, it's a single player story game with online features and lobbies but it's multiplayer entirely as an afterthought
that's precisely why I like it and have all but abandoned WoW at this point. Maybe I'm just uncpilled
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>>739343274
yes, hopefully it'll make everything better, but you still can't blindly trust >Japanese PC game code
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AAAAAAAAA HELP ME I'M GETTING FILTERED
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>>739341845
my understanding is they're trying to be as close to the classic retail experience as possible with the exception of the changes they listed, whereas Horizon isn't remotely comparable to classic retail because they have so many vibe based changes? i don't play on XI pservers at all so i could be misunderstanding but this is just what i see people assert in XI threads.

>>739343283
MMOs are all single player games like that anyway because overmoderation ruined them. normie retards demanded net nanny moderation in game chat so no one fucking talks anymore. people blame social media, discord etc but it's just an outlet for the real problem.
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Mr Brappy won, despite being a woke DYEL bitch.
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>>739343373
You can do it lil'bro, I believe in you! Remember we did it in 2003 so you can definitely figure it out now.
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>>739343471
Wrong thread but yes Xenos is a little fag always has been
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Isn't 11 full of bots and the only way to do content is to multi box everything?
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>>739343763
Not anymore

For some servers yeah
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>>739329493
>Dawntrail caused FFXIV to bleed half their playerbase if not more

source?
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Mithra sex
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I read so much about this game in the PC section of magazines back in 2003 and 2004 I kinda wish to give it a try just because it's on sale for 10 bucks. Doubt I'll make it past a week before dropping it but my inner child demands it.
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>>739343386
Oh no, you've got it all wrong! These aren't changes! This is Era+!
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>>739343820
my ass
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>>739343763
the only people who say "multiboxing is required" are the multiboxers. You can play every bit of content just fine
Multiboxing is cool though, it's like designing your own trust from scratch and programming them like FF12
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>>739344165
there's a 2 week free trial, try it out and then dump it
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>>739344165
not worth it
it's shit outside of CoP
just like XIV is shit outside of ShB
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>>739344302
TRUTH NUKE
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“The sharp player decline we expected never came.” Final Fantasy 11 director talks about recent surge in players"

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/the-sharp-player-decline-we-expected-never-came-final-fantasy-11-director-talks-about-recent-surge-in-players-and-challenges-the-mmorpg-faces-due-to-server-limitation/
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>>739344302
>playing MMOs for the story
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>>739344340
>playing XI for the gameplay
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>>739344340
>she doesnt know that CoP/ShB/EW have better stories than most single player FF games
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>>739344340
I thought XI and XIV's main draws were the story?
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>>739329493
Why are FFXI players so fucking annoying?
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>>739344389
>EW
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>>739344383
I play it for the gardening and chocobo raising
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>>739344408
they crave recognition and are annoying that only XIV is keeping the game alive at this point through crossover raids/events
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>>739344408
You being an XIV obsessed tranny is a major part of it. No one cares if you play XI or not bro, go find an XIV general.
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>>739344427
gay
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>>739344427
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>>739344408
XI players are incredibly chill and mostly old
This is complete projection on your end
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>>739344438
>and are annoying

annoyed*
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>>739344408
>a tranny calling others annoying
Classic
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>>739344472
>XI players are incredibly chill and mostly old

Doesn't Ninja of Fortnite fame play this game religiously?
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>>739344493
yes lmao
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>>739333449
Context?
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>>739344389
I dunno about 14 but CoP's story isn't really that great, what really made it special is the challenge and time it took to overcome that made the cutscenes pay off more than they normally would have.
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>>739344493
do we really need to start listing all the vtubers and streamers playing XIV
Ninja's also 34 now
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>>739344527
You didn't play the game. Saying "what really made it special" as a positive smokescreen didn't work.
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>>739344448
>>739344458
It's gay to raise animals???
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>>739343386
>whereas Horizon isn't remotely comparable to classic retail because they have so many vibe based changes? i
Yeah, that's a thing. Horizon's balance is super different from how FFXI was back in CoP, they gutted some jobs(rdm,sam) and subjobs(nin) while buffing some other jobs(smn,bst,pld,war). It's a Blizzard balance server, the weaker jobs are stronger and the stronger jobs are weaker.
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>>739344618
it's gay to play with your cock
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>>739344586
oh I didn't know we had E33 astroturfers hitting up FFXI threads now that their schedule is free
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>>739344682
I'm OK with them buffing jobs, especially ones that didnt get invited to parties back in the 75 era.
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>>739344576
what a deflection lmao
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>>739344576
I walked by some character in Bastok named Hinomevtuber or something and looked it up and it was a jap vtuber with like 100 viewers playing
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>>739344408
You'll piss and shit yourself with seethe, but I'll explain why XIV zoomertrannys hate XI players.
>XI players: older/millennials that experienced both XI in its heyday, probably some WoW, and XIV from it's beginning.
>Have an objectively better perspective on MMO's and what makes MMO's good
>zoomers seethe because they understand this on some level, even if they never admit it
vs.
>XIV seether (You)
>zoomer whose first MMO is XIV
>experience at most XIV and trannyslop era WoW
>can't genuinely shit on XI or original WoW because you were a fetus when they were relevant
>only take is "le old games are LE BAD and EVERYONE always hated them and they were never fun because... BECAUSE josh strife hayes said they were just chat rooms and um... the graphics are BAD NOW and the UI is HARD TO GET USED TO!!"
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>>739344790
That's kinda the problem with phoenix and any theoretical official classic server. balance was pretty bad, matching the game 1:1 to that era means it's still going to be bad. It can be made better for sure. Horizon didn't make it better, but I guess at least they tried
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>>739344790
all they did was make WAR even more OP than hagun sam
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>>739329493
that's probably more related to XI being so dead that they weren't expecting players at all so the servers were barely running
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>>739344879
TRVKE
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>>739344790
Everyone still subbed NIN after the nerfs and people still played RDM because it's still fundamentally broken. The jobs are just less fun to play as a result.
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>>739344952
thank you for your input, guy who clearly knows nothing about anything
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>>739344879
What if I'm in my 40s and play both games?
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>>739344879
Based.
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>>739345108
Notice I didnt mention the nerfs retard
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>>739345148
Well then you good sir are a based millennial chad like myself. Enjoy all your priceless memories of the golden era of XI, WoW, and earlier XIV.
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>>739344879
>automatically deflecting to XIV

lol
lmao
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>>739345238
>good sir

gb2reddit
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>>739345246
game lives rent-free in so many fanbase's heads and vauthrey janny
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>>739344408
You could write an entire novel on OP at this rate, but the gist of it is that he and his personal army are trying to drag XI into unfathomably retarded XIV shit and have been making threads look awful
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>>739345148
>filename

kek
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>>739345207
What I'm getting at, is that it's not situation where the buffs are worth it because you're playing a stronger version of say warrior but with a nerfed ninja sub and if you want to also play RDM, then you will be having less fun as a result.

It's zero sum basically.
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>>739345246
>automatically deflecting to XIV
Total non-sequitur by a retard, are you seriously trying to imply to anyone in this thread that you aren't an XIV player? Literally no one outside of XI or XIV players even know what XI even is (which is a good thing).
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>>739345246
Because the guy he's replying to is clearly referring to XIV
Is deflection the only cool word you know, by the way?
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>>739345290
you've been talking to yourself this entire thread as if we don't know you're one person, go back to >>739340754
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>>739345345
You keep bringing up the nerfs when I said nothing about them you fucking retard you have 0 reading comprehension
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XIfags are so defensive lmao
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>>739345148
based
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>>739345470
>>739345410
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>>739345440
I'm saying that the implementation on Horizon is worse than it sounds because the buffs don't exist in a vacuum.
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>>739345578
meds
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>>739345578
you're a schizo
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>>739345410
And you'll never live down pretending to be an ESL tradwife using TTS as a gay man.
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>>739345760
>>739345764
>lil'gup pulls out his mobile phone to samefag
lmao
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>>739345847
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>>739333191
Hop on ifrit
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This is why you don't start your XI thread with a mention of XIV. Third worlders don't know roman numerals and will shit up the thread for hours and will not leave because they don't want to admit they were wrong.
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by the by, how much of XIV is purely soloable now? i remember a couple of years back they added trusts didn't they? can you do the low level raids no one runs normally anymore too?
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>>739346216
Like 95% of it and I think they're going back and making some previously unsoloable stuff have NPC party members you can go through it with now. It's mostly just current end game content and a few big climatic main story raid battles that you can't use their trusts for.

>can you do the low level raids no one runs normally anymore too?
You can turn off the level scaling and destroy older content with ease.
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>>739346216
You can't complete the base game solo.
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>>739329493
>meanwhile FFXI has had so many new players they had to close off a server due to overpopulation and temporarily stop selling the game on the square enix shop
Quit misleading people. They closed off two servers due to reaching the character cap on them due to ancient infrastructure, which includes inactive players, multiboxers, and a fuckload of automated bots. Asura is barely reaching 2.5k concurrent online during this free play time, which is a far cry from the 5k it used to have during CoP/ToA.
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>>739346838
you absolutely can defeat the shadow lord with a group of 50s anon
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>>739345764
>>739345760
>zoomer pulls out his iPhone to samefag even harder
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>>739346872
server transfers are also a thing, and the 'megaserver' mindset now exists in the mmo psyche
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>>739346872
>Quit misleading people.
Nothing misleading about what he said. And they closed 3 servers fag
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>>739346896
?
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>>739346872
>too many concurrent users can overwhelm the servers, leading to slowdown in the game and the potential for other related issues.
>Once again, we are seeing periods of congestion on the game's servers, this time with the Odin World, so I'd like to take a moment to explain what measures we will be taking to help address the issue.
>We plan to continue monitoring the number of logged-in users as well as various other factors and will seek to resume the above-mentioned services and functionality when appropriate.
Sure sounds like character cap to me
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>>739346872
No, they closed it due to overcrowding, not ancient cap requirements, you can find the news post if you want to read their reasoning. It's not the first time they've closed servers either.

Also they closed three servers, possibly a fourth soon.
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>>739346942
They might be moving XI to a megaserver at any rate, since they announced a couple years ago needing to replace the 2017 server hardware, where a server hosted four worlds each iirc. I still want them to unfuck the modern instancing setup used in Dynamis-D/Odyssey though, where the server just regularly doesn't send important packets when shit gets busy, like actually casting a fucking spell.
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>>739347025
>>739346947
The only way I'd accept that excuse is if they came out and said that the current modern servers literally cannot handle the same number of players that the TWENTY-FIVE YEAR OLD ones could during DIAL-UP era.
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I bought an xbox controller so I could play XI through Lutris on CachyOS, but the D-pad is so fucking loud that I feel like I'm in a special needs toy room and can't take it anymore
I couldn't get my switch pro controller to ever work, but has anyone been able to do so?
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>>739347167
2k players is too many players, this isnt 75 era where you had everyone spread out throughout the world in camps leveling. People get to 99 in no time and then overcrowd endgame areas. The servers are overcrowded, and you're acting like a little crybaby bitch
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>>739347408
>turn Odyssey into open zone, who cares about Sheol since it's old content now
>move instancing servers it had reserved over to HTNM/Ambu instead
Fixed your problem.
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>>739347385
add playonline to steam as a non steam game and run it that way and see if the switch pro controller works.
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>>739346967
trusts
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>>739347789
Read what you're replying to retard.
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>>739347787
I think I tried that a while back but worth another shot
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>>739347590
Where is everyone getting their daily 1mil from now
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>>739347891
I've still nfc why they made Odyssey a fucking gil source, since even the RMT are making use of it. The game already has a major problem with server inflation even before that, due to taking literal years to address the chocobo blinker exploit. It's already bad enough that you have RMT that create bots constantly that run an alliance in lowbie zones to grind sparks/acco for the 2mil that rewards weekly, which isn't a weekly for them since they just delete & recreate the character after obtaining the gil and trading it to the mule.
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>>739329493
Gen Z has no capability of understanding a game like XI.
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>>739345108
What's broken about rdm?
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>>739347823
and i'm telling you you can in fact complete the base game with trusts. what do you not understand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbNpbhz6irM
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If I have never played XI or XIV which one should I try first? It'd be the free trial, I ain't paying a monthly sub at this point.
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>>739332728
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
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>>739332769
They are expanding the free trial to 75 cap from 50 and unlimited playtime from 2 weeks.
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>>739348089
I don't understand why the fuck you're talking about 11 for one thing.
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>>739332860
You're partially right. The FFXI raids are definitely harder than MOTR, by a huge margin. But they're still maybe only on par with Void Ark in terms of difficulty. FFT and Nier harder but still fairly easy.
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>>739348046
idk if they can commit to the 6 hour parties, nothing worse than waiting for hours for a replacement
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>>739348046
They can't understand it anyways, since modern XI plays nothing like the MMO it used to be.
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>>739348090

play FFXI although it doesnt matter because if you start playing it, you will play it all day, every day

FFXI was at its prime from 2004-2010
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>>739332729
>imo too easy almost bordering on being afraid to be hard
lol, that one fucking ice boss that took 15s to telegraph her attacks ahead of time, then slowly did them, and you'd still see people die to it after the 3rd time. The playerbase was getting more and more casual later in the game's life, while experienced pattern-readers moved onto other pastures.
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>>739335391
Horizon is 3 years old with tons of missing content or custom content on top of having very powerful cliques with GM friends that control everything. Just play retail or wait for the free trial improvement.
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>>739348183
i see. i'll go back to my tard convention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agh3Z7ZyZfc
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>>739348090
XIV trial lets you play more, XI trial is a pain in the dick to set up. If you want to try it for free play a private server.
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>>739348090
Do you like slow paced RPG-based combat with lots of exploration and vast underlying gear, job, and combat complexity, mostly solo until endgame? then XI
Do you like slow paced (gets fast paced after many hours) combat based around avoiding AoEs on the ground with many hotbar buttons to press that all just do damage? then XIV
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>>739348145
Ok? The game is still much different from the 75 era
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>>739348376
And still the closest thing to 75 era beside making your own private server.
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there is alot less drama now than there was back then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIsEkV-UEk
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>>739348362
>XI trial is a pain in the dick to set up
Which I figure won't be fixed until the 25th anniversary, since they'd alluded to either removing, or vastly streamlining the whole PlayOnline launcher system.
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>>739348503
They still only have one dude working on the game, it's gonna take a while before anything meaningful happens
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How is Rune Fencer? I want to try out a few different classes to see what appeals to me, and I just hit 99 on BLU and wanted a bit of a break before I grind out some more of my spells.
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>>739349041
Best tank rn
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVsBONItA6o
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I played 99 era for about 3 months in 2015 and it was basically:
>Follow BlueGartr guide to know what gear is worthwhile because it all has stat vomit
>Do 25% of a questline to unlock access to content that came out in 2012 that has 1 piece of gear that works in a swap set for my job
>Fall in love with Walk of Echoes and fuck around in there despite getting the 2 pieces of gear that mean anything for my job early on
>Feel like I'm wasting time because there's no point in the progression
>Grind Dynamis duo with a friend and have fun because it's the old Dynamis I remember but without the lag and mindless /assist Deathknight spam where you'd get 2 hits in before the mob dies
I enjoyed collecting the purely cosmetic gear the most because I didn't have to verify if it was worthwhile to get. There were just too many abandoned systems each with their own currency and tons of associated items that you have to constantly look up to see if it's worth holding on to. Like I said, I'd dip into each one long enough to get a piece of gear, then the rest was pointless.

Is it any different now? Because it went:
>Grab handful of Trusts, breeze through the levels anywhere you want, make your money using the sparks system, free sparks gear, fight some community HNMs that don't have a claim system
What does current era look like? What does endgame look like?
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>>739350032
Do you know what Google is fag
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>>739350156
It doesn't answer my question and I don't want a guide. I want a personal perspective and comparison to how the game used to play.
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>>739348579
One dude fulltime. XI has borrowed XIV's engineers from time to time over the years to get a single task done. Decoupling POL functions from XI and integrating them into XI directly (content ID, friends list/messages, etc) would be one of those kind of tasks.
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>>739350032
>Feel like I'm wasting time because there's no point in the progression
This is where I'm at in retail. I don't care for Prime weapons, nor 9boss Sortie, or chasing Sheol shit above R15, so I don't have any real reason to grind my fucking ass off to better gear to....do the existing stuff a little better.
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>>739350392
I've played the game off and on since release, I could explain it to you but you sound like you just want to whine no matter what anyone tells you so I don't believe it's worth typing it up.

If you want to play the game then play it, if not then don't.
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>>739332574
what happened on may 21?
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>>739329493
>Are we about to see a WoW classic/Old School Runescape level resurgence for FFXI?
They've said multiple times, there won't be a XI Classic because they don't have backups from the era people want. Earliest they had after migrating to an SVN setup is late-WotG, where Dynamis was already overhauled, and a lot of the combat math/skills have changed.

Also they simply lack the resources. Higher odds of a XIV1.23 server than an XI Classic.
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>>739351092
My post isn't even negative. It was an overwhelming experience compared to what the game used to be, with bright spots of content that were no longer done by everyone else. I didn't even get to the end game then, which could possibly still be the end game now. I'm very interested in this 75-cap free trial someone mentioned. I loved the concept of DNC, but quit before it came out, and 2015 had a patch that drastically lowered the JA cooldowns, so it changed how it played as I was learning it. A mini ecosystem of 75-cap F2P players could be cool.
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>>739351681
The game at 99 is different than it was at 75, but it is still fun, a slightly different kind of fun.
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>>739351530
XIV1.23 seems less likely because of the potential backlash from people who never touched it thinking it's some sort of video game cognitohazard-tier game
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Lv99 Era is for players who enjoyed Abyssea. Don't take it as an insult because it's not, nothing wrong with it. But it's a cope to not accept this, the entire game is extremely Abyssea-lite
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>>739352312
It's extremely different from Abyssea.
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How bad is the Rhapsodies of Vana'diel stuff for messing with the story? I've been putting it off because I wanted a clean experience on the story side, but the gameplay advantages it offers are overwhelming.
Opinions I've read online vary between 'Just do it, it doesn't matter.' to being the FFXI equivalent of starting FFXIV with an optional plotline that opens with Emet-Selch coming through a portal and going 'Azem, there you are! We must travel to the hidden 15th shard and stop Zenos from using the Dynamis to trigger the Final Days again!'. So which is it?
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>>739352656
At first it only touches on each story lightly, not enough to spoil it but it will feel a little odd if you haven't completed them yet. You don't have to go too deep into it before completing the other storylines so it's not that serious of an issue. I would highly recommend doing the intro portions to get the bonuses and then put the rest off till later.
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>>739352747
Thanks, I guess I'll just bite the bullet and do them. It's not like I'm going in 100% unspoiled anyway.
>>739352782
This picture is actually one of the reasons I'm asking here, it says 'do these' and then turns around in the same sentence and goes 'nothing will make sense btw lol'.
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How much of endgame do you need other people for? AI says you can do a lot of it solo, but if the stuff locked behind group content only fuels doing more of that group content, there's not much of a point, right? Can the whole thing be enjoyed completely solo?
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>>739329493
>no jump button
>no map
>impossible to do any old content
XI is trash, might have been good once upon a time 25 years ago, but its dogshit nowadays.
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>>739350032
just wasting time farming currency until you can afford to buy an incremental gear upgrade so you can do the next time wasting currency farm for the next gear upgrade
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>>739329493
Let's be realistic about it though
Its getting a huge surge of players because of the new free trial being a lot more accessible and appealing. Previously uninterested people are finally having enough reason to check the game out
I'd love for a new resurgence of XI, but if I had to guess at least 90% of these people will not transition to a full account when they've had their fill of the trial
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>>739353319
there's a couple missions at the very end that requires actual humans to complete mechanics, but 95% of the story missions are soloable

>>739353381
incorrect, incorrect, and incorrect
these can't seriously be the problems you have with the game
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>>739353319
XI even today is the type of game where you can scale content based on how many people you want to do it with, you can do content solo or with others depending on how difficult you want it to be or long you want it to take. Most content can be soloed, either via lower difficulties or with high end skill/gear, however there are a few pieces of content that are hard locked to requiring 3 real players in a group to even enter.

Overall? maybe 85% can be soloed, not easily, but doable.
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>>739353647
>Let's be realistic about it though
No, the surge started a few years ago during the 20th anniversary, it lingered, then gained more momentum due to two factors.

>The (extremely long overdue) XIV crossover put more eyes on the game
>They finally broke free of their PS2 dev kit restrictions and can and have been creating NEW content for the game

The free trial was only announced a week ago, this shit has been gaining momentum for years. Retard.
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>>739354057
I thought the free trial has existed for over a decade now
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>>739354156
An archaic free trial has existed yes, they announced the new unlimited 75 cap one very recently and I don't believe they've said when it will go live.
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>>739354179
oh shit, for real
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>>739353319
outside of story, there are 7 main pieces of endgame content: odyssey, sortie, limbus, omen, ambuscade, HTMBs, and dynamis divergence
Odyssey can be done solo; it's mostly a large multi tier area with enemies through it, but it's worth doing in a group because more enemies killed = more gil earned
Odyssey gaol is boss content that pretty much needs a group, trusts won't cut it for most of the base level fights unless you're geared to the teeth and know what you're doing
Sortie can be done solo for a small amount of empyrean gear upgrade points, but to get reasonable amounts of them you'd want a group too
Limbus is similar is odyssey but instead of gil it's another kind of gear upgrade points, can be done solo, you pick enemy level, but it's faster with others
Omen has enemy routes and boss routes; the bosses are hard to solo but they drop good gear, you need good gear, but the right jobs can handle the enemy packs to try and get
Ambuscade rotates monthly and has difficulty options, but the highest difficulties drop so much more currency that it's hard to justify going solo once you get a taste of party rewards for the highest difficulty
HTMBs are like trials/extremes from FFXIV, single boss fights that have 5 difficulty options that you can reliably farm solo for lower difficulties, and most people do since they tend to have good gear drops
You need 3 people to enter dynamis divergence but they recently added a separate once-a-day free entry version, but this one might be better solo if your job/gear can handle AoEing, I believe (haven't done it myself)

Basically, yeah a lot can be done solo, and you can get rewards solo, but parties are always going to be more efficient without question for 90% of content
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>>739354253
Thanks for the detailed response. I spent a lot of my private server time doing things inefficiently and soloing SMN to 72. So all that sounds pretty good to me. I don't mind group content, I just don't want to bog people down with my inexperience.
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>>739354827
People are generally very friendly even today in retail. Even if you don't say anything it's not that uncommon for people nearby to invite and help you with something. If you are having issues or need help don't be afraid to ask those around you, or you can join a linkshell dedicated to helping newer players, those aren't too hard to find.



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