/v/ will STILL defend Dark Souls 2
>>739339931It's the DMC2 of Dark Souls, a work of pure kinography that only intellectuals can enjoy
>>739339931what is your iq?
>>739339931it's the best game
>>739339931Its fun but tedious and and way too long
>>739339931best pvp easily, the ladle fights on the fire rock near the bridge were legendary.
>best armors>best weapons>best spells>best levels>best buildsif haters only hated the NPCs I would agree. There's no souls game that can mog dark souls 2.
I understand that the game was shat on at release because it looked nothing like the early pre-release footag. But nowadays with mods it looks way better than the pre-release stuff and a million times better than DS3.
>>739340867>better than DS3.you wish
no it was surpassed 4 years ago
dark souls 2 is le bad because the trans youtuber saided so
>>739341176nta and i put ds3 above 2 or 1 because its combat is much better, but no it always looked like shit
>>739339931Bad Dark Souls game.Good King's Field game.One of the best "video game" video games of 2014It also has more build variety than 1 or 3.CopeDilateSneed
>>739341176NTA but DS3 looks fucking horrendous, the shading is extremely fucked in that game for some reason.
>>739340573>way too long>100% Elden Ringhuh? if I remember right, even the achievements in ds3 took longer than ds2? i get not liking it to complete it, but too long?
>>739339931Ye.I liked it.
>DS2SOVL>DS3soulless
>>739340867i wish I could figure that mod outthe most up to date is on Nexus, but his Discord has like 20 different versions and the github hasn't been updated in months. so i dont even know which is which. then i saw conflictions about using a mod manager or manual install. then all those texture mods are separated into 10 different downloads and they all overwrite it. shits confusing for my pea-sized brain
>>739341176DS3 isn't exactly a high bar>A Team, DS1, 2011>B Team, DS2, 2014>A Team, BB, 2015>"A" Team, DS3, 2016Shat out in a year with cut and altered content, bosses out of place, no build variety at all until late game/ng+, etc.DS3 was nothing more than a greatest hits for a franchise that only had 2 previous titles.
>>739341359It's long because it drags on and on long past its welcome.
>>739340573>cheevos
i'm on a replay rn trying a sorcerer build dumping all my stats into int and its still shit compared to a normal melee build
You only wish you could make me dislike best souls 2.
>>739340573>run through ng+ to get a vendor to buy the last spells>it's too long>finished DS3 and Elden Ring lists which are equal if not worseNice try faggot.
>>739341616on the other hand, now that i memorized the level design, this shit feels almost like a speedrun. if you know an optional route in early-mid game you'll be blasting through bosses
>>739341581oh, well thats on you. i figured you were talking about the cheevosi thought ER dragged on for way too long.
The character creator in this game sucks, all female faces look the same unless you make some max slider abomination
>>739341738ER dragged on, but it was fun and you could skip any route that's not the main route there is a lot of optional content that you can do for just having fun exploring and unlocking all items but it's not forced
>>739341745would plap
>>739340867and then you get to the actual gameplay and realise shit graphics were only the tip of the shit filled iceberg
>>739341738Nope it's because DS2 forces you into NO FUN ZONES that are absolute slogs like Shrine of Amana and this shit.
It really is crazy to me how DS3 and ER had so much less mixed movesets with the weapons
>>739339931This board is full of contrarians, of course they'd defend it
>>739341971There is a screen tearing at the top you fucking retard turn on vsync
>>739341971Shrine of Amana was only a problem in the very first console version. after the nerfs it's a walk in the park. pc version never had the real shrine of amana.
>>739341745Cute!>>739341862Plap yourself, buster!
Now that we have the best looking Souls game thanks to the Path Tracing mod (only valid criticism DS2 had, the visuals) i don't feel like an underdog anymore Bros... is this what winning feels like?
>>739342083ThisAnd unpatched, base DS2 is still way way better than unpatched, base DS1
Another extremely low quality fromschlop thread.Page 10
>>739342112>only valid criticism DS2 had, the visualslollmaorofl even
>>739340867>I understand that the game was shat on at releaseNot really. Most people were too busy playing it.
>>739342203...were you even born when DS2 came out?
>>739339931No need, peak souls 2 defends itself
>>739342243Yes. Were you?
>>739342112>requires 4080RTX to achieve 60fps >for dark souls 2
who the fuck is Heide?
>>739342274I unfortunately played it on release. And I was in the threads about it. Evidently unlike you.
>>739341971>Shrine of AmanaHave you tried getting good at the game?I just passed through Shrine of Amana, took me 1 hour and 45 minutes, 4 deaths due to my own mistakes, played with the path tracing mod that basically makes the torch mandatory so i had it harder than you.If the ganks are too hard for you you can also try summoning, theres like 3 summons in the area specifically for the gank squads.
>summon NPC to help me through gank-heavy area>if I'm low on health he does the "come on" gesture >go towards him>he casts a healing miracle
>>739342112This looks like shit
>>739342317Anon i play with an RTX 4060, it's literally one of the worst Graphic cards lmao, my CPU is 6 years old, i only have 16gb of ram ddr4.Yet i still play at 1440p and 60fps.Stop talking out of your ass.
>>739341745>character creator sucks bro i cant make my anime lolis!!
>>739342412The summons and invaders in DS2 have so much fucking soul. The DLC invaders are peak>The seeming gank squad that runs up, forms a fight club around you, and has you fight them 1 on 1 like this is fukkin DBZ>The "friendly" who backstabs you then plays pure cancer behind a boss>The Chameleon fucker>The super mega cancer bitch fag I hate who refuses to fight you head on, sprints away into the "everyone super regenerates and cannot die" area, rushes you the second your back is turned, and interrupts you turning off the regen aura>The clown who corner fucks you with aoesThese invaders prove that Fromsoft could, in theory, make interesting invaders in everything that came after. They simply chose not to.
>>739342460Looks better than all the artificial bloom heavy lighting in DS3 and Bloodborne.You actually have to use the torch where it's required, i took a screenshot with the door closed to capture the heavy shadows and light reflections on the floor, you just don't get the marvelous thing you're looking at.
>>739341814Yeah, I didn't have that experience. For me, ER, I think when I got Atlas Plateau I was already getting a bit bored with it. Then when I beat WARRIOR, I thought it should've ended there. My favourite boss, honestly. Too much of that content didn't feel any different from each other.
>>739342412>>739342730I swear manhunter o'harra pointed me to a secret the other day, several times.I really thought she was a real player impersonating an NPC.
Okay fine I'll start another playthrough thanks.
>>739339931It's the worst one but still a good game.Simple as.
>>739344592Build?I'm gonna run soldier man. med armour, spear, the roundest and largest wood shield. maybe crossbow instead of shield. both would be too good
>>739341664Maybe he plays offline which means grinding for rat tails and sunlight medals alongside killing the mad warrior phantom in belfry sol that spawns randomly
>>739341971i like the way these zones suck
>>739345675Boring answer but not sure. Started the character and then diverged from the cimputer to make dinner. I always try to get fancy so maybe a basic bitch Sword and Board run.
>>739345804sometimes its just wherever the gaem takes youhave a good dinner fren
I love the game but its so absolutely schizophrenic in the most endearing way.. Why does the chaos rapier get an S scaling in fire when you infuse it with poison or bleed? Why do two handed unarmed fist attacks deal more damage compared to one handed despite not carrying a weapon? Why do all weapons have seperate individual damage scaling for different critical attacks (backstab, shieldbreak or parry all do different amounts of damage)? Why the fuck are the falconers (bird edition, exclusive to ng+ starting area) the way they are? Why did they put the mask with a special effect that helps you find illusory walls behind the most hidden illusory wall in the entire game? WHY DOES ALDIA HAVE TWO (2) HIPPOS PLAYING PEEKABOO IN THE MAIN HALLWAY OF HIS OWN KEEP
>>739339931>/v/ will STILL defend a good gameI mean... yeah? I'm sorry I didn't get my opinions from YouTubers, anon.
>>739346663ds2 is the litmus test for independent thinking (as gay as that sounds).
>>739342730>corner Maldron the Ass when he's running circles before he escapes to the snow covetus fuck>just one attack left and he's dead>as I swing he throws a corrosive urn right into my face>it staggers me out of my attack like a headshot>the faggot uses that one second to escape
DS2 is Elden Ring, Poland
>the only game that lets you play wheres waldo with orange moths in increasingly more unlikely placesBet you never found the one in the rafters above the giant dragon skeleton in aldias keep. Or the one hiding in the shadowed curtains above the runway to velstadt.
>>739345675Try the shield and crossbow being your primary weapons, the spear is solely a backup weapon used when you're out of ammo/durability, or against targets the crossbow is truly unsuited for. Maybe for backstabs and ripostes if you parry
>>739349547that might be pretty funi think there's two shield-crossbows too. The executioners crossbow and another one. yeah, i will run that instead
>>739346605For me, I like that halberds and scythes have different hitboxes for different ranges. I know like one or two of the scythes have the unique distinction of doing all four damage types at different points of the weapon in a single swing; strike on the haft, pierce at the center of the tip, slash on the inside edge, standard on the outside edge. And it takes more durability damage if you hit with the haft. That the other games don't have this is frankly disgusting.
Just made it to Vendrick bros... didn't remember it hitting that hard, there was a message at the door that said something like "Sorrow and tears, weakness: Woman"My king just wanted to humanity to be better than the Gods.
>>739350009never forget that all calamities in the series was caused by a woman and a man was the one to try and fix it
She looks so beautiful and peaceful.
Who was in the wrong here?
>>739339931Yep it's way better than 1 and 3 shit
>>739350481DS3baby is in the wrong
>>739339931Daily dark souls 2 thread.
>>739351117Well done
>>739350481i honestly dont even remember what part he's bitching about. And ive played through that expansion at least 5 times
>>739341616update: i gave up and respecced to knight
>>739345726You don’t need rat tails, you only need bell tower and dark covenant, rings don’t matter in DS2. But you do need to get to the castle in NG++ to get way of the blue, sunbros, and red covenant spells/etc. Doesn’t matter, you need NG++ for DS3 too. But I do feel like DS2 is much longer than DS3.
>>739353741literally me
>>739339931/v/ would defend Anita if it still meant easy (you)s.
>>739342730Where is the first one? I don’t recall those invaders. The guy who acts friendly, then backstabs you and runs off is the same dude who invaded you in the second DLC and runs down and hides hides with the regen area that are buffed, he’s the biggest troll in the game. Not even human players are as toxic as him, I love it.
>>739342345>heidi klum>heide brumeshrimple
>>739353054The ivory king fight which has portals that keep spawning charred loyce knights that swarm you unless you do another loop of Eleum Loyce to find additional loyce knights to assist you as they'll seal the portals
>>739347239…I never found the Aldia’s keep one. Shoot. Now I need to replay it after DS3.
Happy Souls was ten years old last weekMan
>>739341616>couldn't even beat easy modecome on now
>>739346605there's a mask that helps you find illusory walls? This is the first I'm hearing of this
>>739350179turn up your fucking brightness, holy shit
>>739350481>anonymouswoah, that's me
>>739353624>i gave up
>>739353937It's the Mad Warrior gang in the Old Iron King DLC
>>739354595Hollow Skin, it not only marks illusory walls but also renders you immune to curse status just like black witch veil
>>739354961Oh yea, them, they always scare me because I kill the first one and then they all come bumbling down the stairs. They’re also guarding one of the best bosses in the series>fight honabaru samurai boss, the only one in the series >he slides across the smooth floor >beat him without taking any damage, and he commits sudoko The little touches like that are why I love DS2.
>>739346605DS2 tried to do a whole lot of things, though a lot are half baked or unfinished. It's probably unintended that a small number of bleed weapons infuse way too well (infamously the Ice Rapier and I think the Manikin Saber, if I remember correctly); I assume the Chaos Rapier is another mathematical oversight that never got fixed. That is in turn assuming that the "S" is actually a functional S, because the letter scaling in DS2 is completely misleading (Dex in particular gets assfucked, and scaling throws everything out of whack).The Falconers are clearly unfinished. The birds are weird as shit (though those only appear in the one area), their movement animations are broken, they sometimes shoot two arrows at once, and are complete cancer to fight on top of that.>mask with a special effect that helps you find illusory wallsI don't even know what that is.
>>739355358i tried so many times. I dont think theres been a boss in the series to give me that rush in the whole series.
>>739347239Invisible Hollows, too. They're done pretty well, too. At least one is near a fire, so you can see his shadow and can assume they exist elsewhere. I guess they're another casualty of change in the importance of torches.
>>739339931Correct. Its a good game. You know its good because the only thing people who hate it say "its too hard" and "i cant rollslop through the whole game!"DS2 also got us elden ring which is a spiritual sequel to it so, how can it not be one of the best fromsoft games?
>>739354054I wasn't even aware that you can do the boss fight without the. Arent they mandatory for the fight?
>>739355532In the second DLC, after you put the stake in the hole to make the central area come alive(elevators moving), if you go on one elevator there is an illusory wall in the wall, that has a mask in it that negates curse buildup and reveals more messages and illusory walls like that one miracle no one uses. It’s useful because there’s a room in that sane central area that is completely cursed until you destroy the curse statue.
>>739355705You get a free one or twobut you have to explore after you unthaw the level to find the rest
>>739355557If they didn’t make the run back to blue smelter demon cancer it’d be the perfect DLC. Same thing with the frigid outskirts, why make the optional boss run back miserable and a reskin of the first boss of the DLC? If not for those dumb choices, those DLCs would be 10/10.
>>739339931Its just Domo3000 still doing it at this point. Everyone moved on.I know your here domo, you tranny loving faggot
>>739354987>>739355709I'll be completely honest, I had no idea the Hollow Skin did that. I suppose it makes sense that "makes it easier to detect messages from other worlds" would include pointing out illusory walls. I've used it a couple of times for the curse resistance, but I never felt lacking in messages so never actually wore it for an adventure. Neat it does that, but as you say, silly considering you'd pretty much never stumble on it by accident.
>>739355998Those optional zones and bosses in the DLCs represent the thing Souls players never want to see in their games: an actual challenge
>>739341616>>739354925>>739354249>rush 50 int and shoot blue jizz with a 2 meter lock on for the rest of the gameNah he's right sorcery is shite, pyro or hex cleric is the way to go
>>739355998I can run through the Iron Passage with little trouble now, and the blue Smelter Demon was only an incomprehensible nightmare on my first playthrough. I find the Alonne runback to be many times worse. I can't reliably run through it, and even if there were nothing to it, it's still a whole second loading screen every time.Frigid Outskirts is indefensible. The only, ONLY mercy is that you can pancake the deer. I've never managed to consistently avoid their first attack. Doesn't help that Lud and Zallen are pretty much an RNG check if you aren't a God Gamer with some meta build.
>>739356230DS2 is the one entry where you should be actively abusing unlocked spellcasting. Use those binoculars, the actual range of spells goes way beyond lockon.
>>739339931Dark Souls 2 is the best Dark Souls game and the last True Dark Souls game with slow and methodical combat and strategical gameplay.Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon > Sekiro > Bloodborne > Nightreign (Solo play only) > DaS2 > DaS:PTDE > DeS (2009) > DaS3 > Shit > Elden DOGSHIT Ring
>>739342395What are your specs anon? I have a 14700k and a 4070 here wondering how hard the PT mod would hit.
>>739341359you can plat ER in like 20 hours bruh, it's the only game that doesn't force you to grind covenant shite for spells and rings
>>739341971Every Souls game does that.
>>739341971genius level design, literally a 10 seconds long walk to the fog gate but shitters will still get their arse kicked
>>739354093Holy fuck.I think this video helped shape DS2 as the best one in my mind, helps that I beat it with my best friend, I have this false memory that me and my friend lived it as the protagonists from Happy Souls kek.
>>739339931I'm glad people have finally turned on the POS that is DS3. But DS2 is still garbage. DS1 is the only good Dark Souls game.
>>739341359>too long?yes retard, whether something 'feels' too long or too short is a measure of its fun factor, not actual length.which feels longer: playing the best game ever for 15 minutes only, or, pushing out a mega shit that splits your anus open, but it only takes 8 minutes.playing the best game ever for 50 hours, fine, playing the most boring shit ever for 30 hours? what a drag. Do you think shadow the hedgehog doesnt drag despite it being significantly shorter than DS2?
>>739339931Yep, cause it's a good game :)
>>739341332>It also has more build variety than 1 or 3.Every time I replay these games, which is a lot, I always do the same builds anywaywhy would I deliberately choose to play in a way thats lamer and more boring? like say, being a casterfaggot?>>739340702>best spellslike this nigger, not only is that not true since the spells massively improved for 3, and again for ER, spellcasters are niggers and their opinion is invalidated.Only a cowardly faggot slowly spams magic missile to cheese the game into easy mode and only a retard pretends thats fun.
>>739342112it still looks like shit because of the horrid models, textures and art direction/worldbuilding. it just has good lighting. not to mention the countless gameplay issues and lack of cohesion.
>>739360384>bad graphics is when worldbuilding
>>739360384>it just has good lightingits kind of shocking how good so many games look when you add in good lighting. the shocking thing isnt the lighting though, its that devs dont fucking do this automatically.Mood lighting has always made games look better, yet we get that baked in arteficial lighting everywhere because...?Then again when they attempt it themselves we get pic rel
>>739340104Defending DS2 is bad enough but justifying it with a comparison to DMC2 is apex contrarianism. Well done.
>>739339931This game is actually good. I am currently replaying it AGAIN. I replayed DS1 and 100% it. Played through DS3 a bunch, 100% bloodborne and Elden ring. DS2 continues to capture my attention. DS2 is king.
The skull on wheels has never been refuted. No one has actually countered him once. "its too long!"Yes, thats how badly he raped you.
What are these graphics mods for DS2?
>>739361935you couldve typed this post into google, you fucking trogloid
>>739339931It's an ok game, good even, it was just a massive disappointment when it came out because it didn't live to the fame of the predecessor which was a great all timer game of the 10s.It's sorta like the re5 of the series.
>>739362043Shit up faggithttps://youtu.be/cskl11GsLyY?si=x3YLXxiyk9BjEil-
>>739351013>grouping ds2 with two of FromSofts best games is the only way to have it win anythingSad.
>>739362387>DS2 IS THE BEST GAME EVER YOU DUMB NIGGERS>needs to mod the fuck out of the game to make it passible>supports the anti-consumer practices of bandai by buying the game
>>739362537Go back to Sens Fortress chosen undead
>>739339931Bearer seek seek lest...
DS2 > DS3 > DS1
>>739363047the jokes old, kiddo.
>>739339931>defend Dark Souls 2Against what or whom?... Is it under attack?
>>739363148I enjoyed FS2 the most, DS1 is a good game but I think that DS2 is overall the better game.DS3 is more like DS1 but more modern and still better than DS1 with better gameplay. The DLCs for DS3 are also much better than anything in DS1.DS1 is a meme.
>>739339931Yes, because its a good game.
>>739354249>>739341616You got baited, sorcery in ds2 is the hard mode of the game, all bosses are immune to to sorcery, most end game enemies are immune aswell
>>739339931for me it's dark souls 2 and elden ring. fuck A team. they're a bunch of hacks.
>>739340867>>739341416>>739341513Ds3 is shit because the third game of every franchise is bad, every third game ever has been inferior to the first two, think of any franchise and you'll see i am right>Spider-man 3 is the casual fest of spider-man 2>nioh 3 is a dumbed down sequel meant to rally newfags into the series>halo 3 is the easiest game out of the trilogy, halo 2 notoriously being the hardest
>>739366146dark souls 3 is the best one so your argument is wrong
>>739353624It's the same in Elden Ring too. It might look as if sorcery is viable until you try to beat Rennala with a pure sorcery build...Just suffering. Worst thing about E:R is the fact how bosses still blatantly input read your actions. Only retards don't notice this.
>>739366181I am afraid it suffers from the ''we dumbed the gameplay down to get more sales'' that every third game suffers from, there is obviously other factors like removing poise but that's just extra turds on the pile of diarrhea
I will not defend it. What I will do is every couple of years say to my self it couldn't've been that bad I must be misremembering something only to boot up another playthrough and be increasingly disappointed for the next 70 hours.
>>739339931Still the best Souls game bar none. Easily the best PvP.
>>739339931It's disappointing compared to Dark Souls 1, but not nearly Dragon's Dogma 2 level of disappointing. It successfully carried momentum of the series for a few more years until the next game, instead of killing it completely.
>>739366146>every third game ever has been inferior to the first two, think of any franchise and you'll see i am rightDevil May Cry 3MorrowindPersona 3Freddi Fish 3
>>739366146Blow it out your ass.
>>739339931The entire series is overrated garbage and /v/ defends it. From was known for 40% shit games but Snoys and PC fats who otherwhise shit on Zelda games saw a sword and shield game with Z targeting and immediately dickrode itEver since Dark Souls 1 /v/ is just Reddit 2
>>739367767>Devil May Cry 3DMC 3 is the DMC 2 of it's franchise, DMC 2 a patchwork of unfinished game held up at the last second, DMC 4 would be the ''third'' game riding on the success of it's predecessor >Morrowindnever played it, only played Oblivion>Persona 3is the 4th game in the franchise, the third is P2 EP and it suffers from the dumbing the gameplay syndrome for newfags
>>739339931I Remember play this game in my house in winter with the temperature of 3 grades or less, but this place was warming me inside
What other game captures being an adventurer like DS2?
Why was DS2 the only one with immersive sim qualities? There's like 4 different ways you can drop into the well in Majula. Hell you can also bypass the well altogether, fight an optional boss to go through an optional area and end up in the Gutter.
>>739368697It would have no redeeming qualities otherwise.
>>739367635>compared to Dark Souls 1there's no comparison
>>739368697>Hell you can also bypass the well altogether, fight an optional boss to go through an optional area and end up in the Gutter.Huh? no?
>>739369376he thought grave of saints doesn't require you to jump into the pit... lol
>>739369376Yes
>>739369346You can cherrypick all you want, as a complete package DaS2 is just plain worse
>>739366375>NO WHERE ARE THE GANKS, WHY ISN'T THERE A MILLION SPELL CASTERS GANKING THE PLAYERpiss off
>>739369593How's that cherrypicking? DS1 is just plain worse, fundamentally.
>>739369689in my opinion the fundamental issue with ds1 is the barrier stopping the player from advancing if you advances too much, it's mario sunshine tier and genuinely retarded
>>739369640>where are the ganks!?That DS3 clip has as many enemies as the DS2 one, and that's after aggroing the whole area. Difference being ganks in DS3 aren't threatning because you can just roll spam out any danger you put yourself in and iframe through fogwalls.
>>739368041duke 1 and 2 are side scrollers, duke3d is the father of FPS
>>739370478Duke 3D is both the 3rd game in the series and the canonical 3rd game in the series.
>>739370547Duke 3d is to 1 and 2, what Dark souls 2 is to Sonic adventure 2
>>739370729(You)
>>739370787I accept your concession
>>739341616You're supposed to use Hexes, Sorcery is a whacky PvP shit for tryhards
>>739342395Can i avoid needing to carry a torch if i use something like a flaming weapon, or something else that glows bright?
>>739342395On launch day, this was the worst area in all of gaming combined, i say this with zero hyperbole
>>739372074cast light spell
>>739372207that could work, but once again is there any good weapon for lighting up the environment? i love games where i can go through the dark with a glowy blade
Fr tho
>>739372183>ThisThe unpatched version of the Shrine of Amana was the worst area in the souls series bar noneIt was impossible to dodge the magic if you were in the water. Had to despawn half the enemies to get through it.
>muh sovl
>>739339931it's the best of the trilogy, why is that surprising?
>permanently softbanned on steam for trying to fix the 60fps durability bug shortly after release>ds2 renaissance 10yrs later>still softbanned
