>new Vanguard anti-cheat can sabotage your operating system to the point of making it permanently unusable>Big companies make fun of you instead of resolving the situation
It's just an operating system, and shitdows at that. Just replace it with something good.
can you explain what this means to a straight person?
>>739341209your fault for playing league of assfaggots
>>739341209>cheat in a video game>your pc is now brickedgenuinely what anticheat needed. now they just need to make it so it burns out all the hardware and turns it into a literal firebomb.
>>739341209QRD?
>>739341338The card is blacklisted to play vanguard
>>739341492Vanguard now has full access to your PC to the point that they can bricking if they want, but this only happens to cheaters for now, as they place a trap that renders your PC unusable every time they activate the trap.
if you play a riot game you deserve to have this happen whether you cheat or not
>>739341209how the fuck is this legal? you can do whatever the shit you want with your server, block me, block my entire fucking country too for good measure, but this? you literally fucking with my hardware and my fucking money.like what the actual fuck is wrong with these nigger
I think I’m just gonna stick to FF14 and old games and emulation on PC. Switch 2 is fine too for the stuff I care about.
>>739341209YouTube poop voice:>This is illegal, you know
Someone played league on their shitcoin mining rig?
>>739341691they can bricking? even if I do the needful?
>>739341758uhmmm maybe next time dont click on accepting the terms of the EULA sweaty..
>>739341209if they actually tried this they'd just get sued for destruction of property. this is just the social media retard being a social media retard.
>>739341758>HOW CAN SHE SLAP?
>>739341474honestly agreeevery time anticheat even works partially well, chinks and jeets en masse have raging meltdowns, good stuff
>>739341691SAAR WHY ARE YOUIN THE BRICKING OF MY PC YOU CANNOT BE IN THE DOING OF THAT SAAAR
>>739341885who gives a fuck it's probably china anyway
this can't be real, they must mean a simple hardware ban right?i dont play these rootkit games, whats to stop me from buying 20 laptops, bricking them on purpose by installing cheats and getting caught, then filing for damages against the company because they installed malware on my system which is highly illegal in developed nations?>ERRR YOU SIGNED THE USER AGRE....any reasonable judge, especially if they are older, will throw that shit in the trash day 1 of litigation
Anyone still playing LoL deserves it, honestly. Maybe it'll help them break their unhealthy addiction.
>>739341860i don't play chink games with admin/kernel level access sweetie, if my eula states you'd must suck my cock and handle all your mortal possession, would that still be legal?literally none of you guys are real fucking human being yes i fucking know you are either a paid jeet/chinks or a bot.
>>739341209>its not a rootkit and its good that it is.
>>739341209>operating system>permanently unusablewhat
>>739341492it's some PCIe device that lets you cheat, no normal gamer would even own one of theseim guessing every chinese gamer does though
>>739341209redeemed
Haven't people been banned for cheating erroneously due to them running some harmless software that the anti-cheat didn't properly recognize? Are they going to pay for a new machine when they brick someone's PC when the person wasn't even cheating?
>>739342131>if my eula states you'd must suck my cock and handle all your mortal possession, would that still be legal?No, but the law treats sexual acts, property rights, and computer access pretty differently.
>>739342228when does this pay for itself?
>>739342207that's just windows 11 out of the box.
>>739342363given how chinks go insane when you ban them or force them to play with other chinks, it's like a drug that they have severe withdrawals over
>to the point of making it permanently unusablePLEASE GOD NO PLEASE JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF MERCY TO RETARDED UNEDUCATED SWINE ZOMMERS WHO BELIEVE WHATEVER A SLOPTUBER TELLS THEM FOR GODS SAKE
>>739341860>don't click on accepting the termsThank you saar. In the first world an EULA does not give companies permission to sabotage your computer.
>>739342228people really spend that much to just cheat in a game
>>739341335This
>>739341860>EULAMuh eula Kys
Full context because OP is a niggerfaggot: https://xcancel.com/ogisadaDMA/status/2056744450362048835I don't know if Riot's anticheat is bricking the firmware of the SSDs of of people identified as cheaters (potentially including innocent players that triggered a false positive) or the firmware of cheat devices. I'm not knowledgeable on the subject of cheating in online gaymes.
>>739342228it was only a matter of time tbhngl. competitive esports will eventually move to root of trust, signed binaries, and full end to end attestation.
>>739342990my understanding is the device passes through another one (like an SSD) so no "innocent" player is being hit by this
>>739341209cheaters should be executed like animals
you will own less and less of the physical things you buyit's why they're getting rid of DVD, because you can own them
>>739342990They are specifically targeting the cheating device's firmware rendering them useless, not SSDs that would share SATA/NVMe ports. I think maybe 1% of people who claim they are innocent are actually innocent. Cheaters are scum, of course they would lie.
>>739341209>cheat in a free game>6k stolenthis is clearly a crime
If you have process hacker (the alt for default procces viewer) or open cheat engine by just having that spyware in the background it will brick you
>>739342053>any reasonable judgeyou believe those exist...?like, you actually believe that...?
>>739343171>>739343209how are they detecting the 'pass-through'? or is it infact, *not* a pass-through? because 'pass-through' to me is, its essentially an oscilloscope on the pcie lanes. but that would be quite expensive... so presumably, to keep things reasonable, it is a 'real' pcie device, that presents itself to the host system as a pcie bridge? in which case its trivially identifiable... i need to brush up on this.
>>739342363every pro player and/or streamer would make the cash back with sponsors and ads
I don't like the idea behind this. Cheaters are getting what they deserve but who is to say this kind of technology stops at them? Whose to say this shit won't be used for ransomware in the future
>>739342990Destroying people's hardware is an actual crime.
>>739343335the hardware is fine if it only needs an OS reinstall
>>739343269good
>>739342228It's a DMA ( Direct Memory Access ) card lets you read out the memory contents of your pc on a seperate pc and modify it. So the idea is that you put this in the machine you play games on and then have a seperate machine that runs the cheats and modifies the memory and the anti-cheat can't flag the cheat software or memory modification paterns because it happens externally. Anti-cheat is a complete meme anyway anything these anti-cheat devs think of is circumvented week later because it's 1000 vs 1 cheat devs vs anti-cheat dev and clientside protection is never going to work.Anti-cheat has been solved decades ago and it's called server browser and community servers
HEY RETARDS WANT TO SEE A MAGIC TRICKGOVERNMENT CORPORATIONGOV CORPOGOVCORPOINCREDIBLE
Fucking nuts they are using a device used for debugging and developing PCIe cards to cheat in a shitty free game.
>>739343292It essentially works like this:1. IOMMU maps specific boundaries for where hardware components are allowed to look in your system memory (RAM).2. When the H2-board attempts to read game data packets out of their designated boundaries, the CPU's memory controller immediately catches the rogue read attempt.3. Vanguard flags this illegal physical address translation as a direct hardware violation, regardless of what the board pretends to be. I think before this they could hook into the memory early before Vanguard's driver could boot, but Riot closed this loophole by mandating pre-boot dma protection and will force the user to update their BIOS if it's not enabled.
>>739341691I though (even it morally permissible) no sane company would put a kill switch cause there is always a risk of fake positives.
>>739343481clout pays bills
>>739343412still counts as malware
>>739342990I don't like cheaters but, I have a feeling Riot is about to lose some money over this if its true.
>>739343482interesting. how long until we get DDR5 interposers? then we get mandatory in-memory encryption...
>play game>dev decides to brick your hardwarethis is straight up illegal in australia
>>739343564who is going to take Riot to court over this?blizzard already won against cheat devs. bricked PCs is a user's cost of doing business with the cheat devs.
>>739342228Vanguard detects DMA. does this card solve for IOMMU?>Authentic PCIe enumeration i guess this is it?
How fucking stupid are people if they can't create a flash drive with whatever OS they want and if their current one bricks, you can just reinstall?
>>739341691That is bad. False positives can happen.
>>739343335Destroying people's hardware WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION is an actual crime.
>>739342053It's literally in the EULA that Riot can come to your house and fuck you in the ass if they want. Anyone playing their games is shit out of luck in the realm of consumer protection.
>>739343468>Anti-cheat has been solved decades ago and it's called server browser and community serversidiotretarded idiot>>739343468>It's a DMA ( Direct Memory Access ) card lets you read out the memory contents of your pc on a seperate pc and modify it. >So the idea is that you put this in the machine you play games on and then have a seperate machine that runs the cheats and modifies the memory and the anti-cheat can'ti think you're confusing this with ai cheatsVanguard flags for DMA
>>739343650>who is going to take Riot to court over this?australian government
>>739343482>>739343623to continue, it does seem quite vulgar to still be cheating via backdoor information.take AlphaGo: it won at Go not by cheating, but by playing better than any human.is it not the natural path forward, to have a separate computer that interposes the same thing that the human sees?so a second, "assistant" PC that sits between:- hdmi signal- keyboard- mouseand subtly assists all your actions. you are still playing as usual. but it nudges you here and there. and the better you play, the more it assists you. sort of a player-AI symbiosis. and much harder to detect, no?i suppose a simple solution is to mandate hdmi content encryption, but you can still point a camera at the screen.
>>739343041only sensible opinion i've seen in a while on this topic across various forums
>>739343602>I have a feeling Riot is about to lose some money over this if its true.Anon, you falsely believe that corporations ever get punished for anything. There are corporations who are directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and they were never held accountable. Why do you think a corporation merely damaging property would be?
>>739343704I really doubt someone will run LoL on a test bench pc with a DMA card in some test lab, which is the only legitimate use of a DMA card. Absolutely no gaming pc or even workstation will have one of these or an equivalent installed.
>>739343783https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9eu-IT93ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4rrcw_oRVshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJImfcQGjIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxnjm41lTQEbasically homeless already explored many of the ways around this
>>739343752surely the kangaroo court will want some actual victims to this supposed crime
>>739343750>retarded idiotThe real retard is you matchmaking is fucking coal server browser is kino and community servers self regulate cheaters out. >i think you're confusing this with ai cheats>Vanguard flags for DMAThe anon i was replying too and the pcie cards shown in the riot post are DMA cardsRiot regulates again DMA and then cheaters found a way around it and repeat this a 100 times. They are literally writing UEFI cheats now a days kernel anti-cheat is a fucking meme and it doesn't work.
>>739343831but what if they do?seems like something easy to setup that you could then sue riot for distributing malware this is 100% malware btw>>739343869just the presence of malware is a crime
is any of the games that use it fun to justify this?
I thought Vanguard died after like 1 month.
>>739343903now legally prove it's malware.it's shitty. I would never have it on my computer. but that doesn't make it malware.
>>739343903and what if the world was made of pudding???? hmmm???
>>739343925It's only grown, anon. Riot has like 50+ internal engineers working on Vanguard, and I've been told they have weekly meetings with Microsoft security too.
>be PC vegan>own nothing
>>739343945this is also exonerating the physical device sitting in the middle of all this
>>739343925You're thinking of Highguard, anon.
>>739343912No as Valorant is meh and League is hot garbage
>>739343945>software that is malicious and modifies the users device without permissionyeah its malware
>>739341209>operating systemSo just get a different one.
>>739341691>but this only happens to cheatersBecause no ones ever been falsely accused of cheating right?
>>739344056>without permissionthe DMA card just willed itself between your PCIe slot and SSD and cosmic particles just happened to enhance your league gameplay
>>739344102doesn't matterjust because i do something you don't like doesn't give you permission to brick my hardware.turn the game off instead
>>739344147>just because i do something you don't like doesn't give you permission to brick my hardware.prove it
>>739343813Riot lost millions in a lawsuit for "sexual discrimination" just a few years ago.
>>739344147no hardware is getting bricked you dumb kike
>>739344147>>739344102waitif they can detect the DMA now they can literally just perma ban you and turn the game offwhy are they going and bricking hardware too?
I don't even play League anymore why do I still have vanguard installed
>>739343893>server browser is kinosure>community servers self regulate cheaters out.doesn't account for passive cheating like ESPso again...>>739343893>The anon i was replying too and the pcie cards shown in the riot post are DMA cardsi forgot to add, you replied to the wrong guy anyway, i think. should be one post up>DMAVanguard flags for DMA>UEFIfeels like more buzzwords injection by you quick search:> https://zhexcheats.com/en/blog/game-hacking-guides/uefi-preboot-gap-explained>Four major motherboard manufacturers shipped firmware that reported IOMMU protection as active while the hardware was not initialized. DMA cheat cards exploited that millisecond window before the OS loaded. Here is how Vanguard found it, four CVEs later.so again...as a matter of fact as i was saying in >739343653
>>739341209You're a fucking idiot if you let chinese malware on your PC and deserve it. The most astrotufing game publisher in existence.
>>739343335Cheaters aren't people though
>stream screen out to an arduino>have it return adjusted mouse movementwoah that was hard
>>739344217consider which side would portray it as bricking
>>739344102>I don't care about it because it doesn't affect me
>>739344353barely sapient mongoloids?
>>739344353it doesn't matterwhy are they altering the OS/hardware whatever when they could simply just ban you and close the game?
>>739344421are they? why is the DMA card getting ignored?
On one hand, a company daring to intentionally bundle actual malware with their products should result in everyone involved being skinned aliveOn the other hand, a computer self destructing upon detection of League of Legends is probably good for the consumerI'm conflicted
>cheating>cheating on a videogameAlmost nothing is more pathetic than hiding to get an advantage over others, specially on a game
>>739344267>on your PC>doesn't have a dedicated gaming PCare you poor or something?
>>739344147Actually you're right, instead of bricking the hardware we should brick the cheating players.
It might be a bit too far, but i have no sympathy for cheaters so i don't really care. What worries me though is that i don't believe there won't be false positives at some point by how far they keep going to combat it. Like i game on a windows virtual machine with gpu passthrough since i main linux but wanna use windows for gaming. I never cheat or do anything nefarious with the vm, but i'm sure they'd ban me just for being on a vm. Luckily i don't care about these multiplayer games, but at some point there might be some i want to play for a bit
>>739344523
>>739344446why are you so focused on the DMA card when it doesn't matter?riot has no right to fuck with the software/hardware of the user.ban the user if the card is detectedif they can't detect the card then they shouldn't be trying to fuck with the system anywayand if they can detect the card, just ban the usernot fucking rocket science
>>739344557...the DMA card is the thing being detected by the Anticheat. it's not going to do this shit to any standard setup. why are you so brown?
>>739341758>Fucking with my hardwareNo it's just blacklisting your card from Windows OS
imagine being such a fucking loser that you play a riot game and then cheat anyway
>>739344147eat shit
>>739344603againread niggerif the card is detected, ban the user.
>>739344807yeah it also does that. stop cheating.
no proof of bricking btw
>>739344147>turn the game off insteadi mean they did.
Frankly if you play League post-malware, you can't really complain.
>>739344845i don't cheat moroni don't want game companies to be spreading malware
>>739343861that looks like good fun. its ofcourse quite mad scientist esque, but spiritually, i think i am a (quiet) proponent of these 'cheating' systems, because by making a system that mimicks human behaviour completely undetectably, that is a good constraint for embodied robotics/AGI. by solving it comprehensively, you have to first 'invent' AGI, and then the undetectable 'cheating' system comes as a natural by-product (among many others).the ultimate cheat is to actually just do the thing. the most fool-proof way to fake the moon landing is to do the moon landing, as cheaply and effectively as possible.so it will be with robotics. everyone is trying to fake their way out of doing work. a fake cook in the kitchen, a fake housemaid to hoover the house, a fake gamer to carry me in cs. but to fake it competently requires going down to the roots of what it is youre trying to fake (in FPS shooters, you are observing the screen, moving the mouse, and inputting clicks), and learning to play the game by the same rules that a human does (otherwise, whats the point? if the robot needs 'outside help', then its usefulness drops drastically.)imagine one of those chinese bipeds sitting at a desk and onetapping people like ScreaM. is that... cheating? i guess so, but at a certain point it does become a 'legit' player in its own right, like the alphago system. at that point, its not a matter of "i dont want cheaters in my game", but rather: "i dont want to play against robots".
>>739344901>i don't want game companies to be spreading malwareit's voluntary, nothing is being 'spread' except maybe you ass cheeks for jamal, don't like it go and play something else
>>739341209You agree to toc and eula, you agree to how they operate their software in your system. Taking this matter into a court is just wasitng everyones time
riot cant detect shitthis is just advertising>how do u knowi have a shit 35t card with a weak ass firmware and im cheating rn in Valorant
>>739344976toc/eula aren't legally bindingif they were all malware would just distribute a eula and tell you to suck dicks
>>739345024you control the malware you download
>>739344921dudecheck the first linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EbjGSRyKA
>>739344251Are you brown or something how the fuck is UEFI a buzzword. You are defending a kernel-level anti-cheat and you have no fucking clue what you are talking about you fucking nigger
>>739342990Pretty sure this is highly illegal, so they're full of shit.
Ya'll niggas need to stop playing online slop and just play single player games.
>>739344901"malware" for hardware that has the exclusive use of cheating in games that don't allow it
>>739344993Keep up the good work.
>caveat emptor but it's your entire fucking hardware system and the seller can revoke it at any timeThe law still hasn't caught up to the digital age. It lives by completely different rules
>>739343971>weekly meetings with Microsoft security tooholy rapefiesta shitteria imagine being a fly on the wall with the old MS. you know they'd be making all kinds of rape jokes >yea and then we're going to inject that one absolute gigaton rape package at these fucking cross-eyed noodle slurpers then again, these troons are on different levels too
Why do people bother cheating in online video games? Whats the point? Its only a game. Its not like you really gain anything. I dont even understand why anyone takes this shit so serious.
>>739345112it bricks all devices of its typethey have many legitimate usessome are saying it kills pcie network cards too
cheaters are the reason linux users cant play Rust on most servers anymorefuck cheaters, boil them in a wok
>>739345186What do you think the point of video games is? The same applies to cheating in them.
>>739342663I used to work with a DMA cheater, and here's how he justifies it>okay so it's like the darkweb of multiplayer and EVERYONE pro who cheats will cheat this way because it's totally undetectable so long as you keep fueling ChinJeetCheatInc.Invisionfree.cn for the latest updates and play JUST OP enough to not draw suspicion in replays and logs but at the end of the day this means that you need DMA cheats to get into the REAL fight with REAL pros so yeah it turns every game into Titanfall kinda where you and the DMA cheaters are the PC's and the DMAless are the NPC XP farms and it becomes an absolutely unhinged mind game where you might even have to start grabbing packets to drophack once everyone starts drophacking and this is a lotta shit to deal with over multiple screens especially if you're crossfading but YEAH it's way better than vanilla MPIt's basically an altered state for people who no longer get dopamine from playing normally, so drug costs and the constant need to change your identity when busted are a good comparison. These retards killed Paladins way before Hi-Rez was able to, so I'm all for pissing them off, as big DMA cheaters and scriptwriters tend to run in the same crowd as ChinJeet email/phone scammers - all of which deserve the same fate of the son of that one Ukranian scammer who ended up finding him scattered in a forest
>>739341209You're lying. >>739345186You're retarded.
I think people who cheat on online games are kinda patheticI also hate all technocratic wannabe corporations, so I hope that they get sued and burn to the fucking ground. Not gonna happen though, because we live in a plutocracy.
>>739345230vagueposting king
>>739345230zoomers call any tech inconvenience "bricking" so the word lost its meaning. you are doing it right now.
>>739345058i did! its an end-to-end proof of the principle. but its still nothing more than a 'classical' AI, that is, vision detection algorithms followed by servo inputs in a 'fixed' closed loop. that is automation of the sort used in mass production assembly lines since the 90s.which is still important, you need an existence proof. but it can't navigate maps. it doesn't have a 'mind-model' (indeed, what does that even mean?) of the 'world' (huh?) that it sees on the screen.its sort of like, Apple Siri circa 2010 vs. chatgpt. i mean... both are text, right? both are Q&A agents. but one is not like the other. chatgpt is sort of, a qualitative step change, it operates on a principle that contains within it the semantic tree parsing of the old chatbot architecture as a special case.something like that is waiting to be discovered for robotics.the ultimate cheating robot will be able to complete a game of CS, get up, and start washing the dishes. now *that* - is a cheater.
>>739345186Its mostly account sellers and servicers buying these devices. a random chinese or russian will just cheat in another game.
>>739345270What for? A 4chan post, you braindead faggot?
>>739345060>you fucking ni accept the concession>DMA>UEFI>MDMA>CDChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD56S7uPQyY Die Fantastischen Vier - Mfg >You are defending a kernel-level anti-cheatthe problem being?, cheater
>>739345296this is very much a brickinghaving to fully reinstall your OS is soft-bricked at least
>>739345332
>>739345230There are no legitimate uses for these devices. Name two.Cheaters often lie about what anticheat is doing to scare legitimate players, and I doubt this has had any impact on legit network cards especially given that it's creating transactions that don't talk with a network card.
>>739343602If it were true they'd definitely committing a crime here. But with so many stories from Riot it's a meaningless PR lie for their amazing anticheat or whatever. (Vanguard to this date sucks even compared to simple solutions like CS2's trust rating.)No wonder they need something to uphold the appearance.
>>739341758>ivan/pablo/kyle can't pretend to be good at video games for clout anymoreboo hoo
I can't believe Riot would do that, hurt the feelings of the chinese people so casually.
>>739345329>the problem being?That it gives RIOT the highest level access to your machine, You don't even have ring-0 access to your hardware and for what? All kernel-anticheat games are full of cheaters. if this shit worked that would be one thing but it doesn't even work.
>>739343468>Anti-cheat has been solved decades ago and it's called server browser and community serversor have chinese only match making
this thread is a larp and full delusion, they just meant you cant play the game anymore. if they actually bricked hardware they'd be immediately sued
>>739344218Because it's malware
Why do situations like this always bring out faggots that put you in one corner or the other? I loathe cheaters but I don't go for any corporation do jack fucking shit with anyone's computer. >You're against thought police?>YOU MUST FANTASIZE ABOUT NAKED CHILDREN THENYou want to ban accounts, blacklist hardware or whatever, fine. That should be all that's required. I don't need some dumbass corporation with malware getting hacked and next thing you know we've all got bricked hardware or need to reinstall OS or some shit.
>>739345519Why stop there we need to have a 100% white internet again
>>739345583*DMAs myself to being white*
>>739341691Probably illegal btw.
>>739345597
>>739343468>Anti-cheat has been solved decades ago and it's called server browser and community serversI just know you'd ban better players for cheating because
Why is /v/ complaining about this? The overall consensus here is that Team Xecuter getting destroyed by Nintendo was pure corporate greed against innocent modders, and that they were legally 100% in the right to brick your console if you used a custom firmware because they worded their hidden EULA vaguely in Chinese, so what's the issue? Isn't this based and epic?
>>739345264fun? I only play single player games so I dont care about anything other than fun.
>>739345268>You're retarded.your just being dismissive for no reason and making yourself look silly. What do you gain by cheating in an online game? Do you win money?
>>739341209>playing anything made by riot in 2026
>>739345648>ban better playersbased, they can fuck off to comp servers
>>739345482>All kernel-anticheat gamesyour problem is thinking all KLACs are the same because they mandate TPM and Secure Boot as requirement TPM and SB are the vehicle, not the package. you still need proper detection code. and out of all of them, Vanguard does the best job. as witnessed by the partial butthurt in this thread and on Xitter over "bricked" cards
>>739342228All this effort and money just to cheat. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people?
Why aren't these companies just suing cheaters and cheat providers?I'm pretty sure it's easy to sue for damages when players of your game say that the cheater ruined the game and made them not buy things.
>>739345308Why do they cheat though? Whats the point? Its only a game. What do they gain from cheating in random matches? I understand cheating in say a tournament where you can get money for winning but whats the point in cheating in random no stakes games?
>>739345768So the community servers dont work.
>>739345809blizzard didthe long arm of the law is only as effective as its reach
>>739345812They want to fool themselves that they're not worthless subhumans
>>739345307to continue - another thought i just had,the mind-model aspect is *not* to be underestimated. primates have trouble understanding the reflection in a mirror, or mirrors in general.portals to another world are beyond the reach of even much of nature's work, let alone our own.i can't help but wonder what implications the necessity to navigate 'parallel worlds' will have on the architecture that facilitates embodied AGI. we are invariably going to see our own reflection (ha?) in them.PC gaming has literally moved humanity forward so much, its not even funny. GPUs were literally funded by gamers. the entire AI revolution was bankrolled by armies of gainfully employed young men masturbating to high resolution boob physics.
>>739345384>There are no legitimate uses for these devices. Name two.They are FPGA's they have tons of uses, google it
>>739345812Make compfags seethe and I get a win that I deserve but always get denied by my bad teammates
>>739345889>>739345384High-Performance Computing (HPC) clusters, algorithmic financial trading, datacenter SmartNICs, and high-speed signal processing.Key Use CasesAlgorithmic Financial Trading: Used for high-frequency trading (HFT) where extreme, microsecond-level latency is critical. The FPGA acts as a hardware-level network interface that can parse market data and execute trades before traditional software running on a CPU even registers the event.Datacenter & Cloud SmartNICs: Offloads network and storage protocols (like NVMe-oF or packet routing) from server CPUs. This frees up datacenter hosts to run virtual machines or containerized workloads while the FPGA handles line-rate encryption, compression, and firewall duties.High-Performance Computing (HPC) & AI Acceleration: Handles highly parallel, custom data pipelines, as well as domain-specific data types not natively optimized in CPUs or GPUs.Hardware-in-the-Loop & Protocol Emulation: Utilized by hardware developers to prototype custom ASIC designs or build complex test and measurement tools (e.g., PCIe 5.0 SSD testers) before releasing them to mass production.Defense, Aerospace, & Telecommunications: Used in radar, signals intelligence, and 5G/6G radio systems to capture massive streams of high-bandwidth I/O and process signals in real-time.
>>739345889if you are using it for the legit purposes of debugging then reinstalling the OS should already be a regular part of the process. no idea why you would try to game on such a machine like a tard. that's why it's obvious it's cheaters lying.
>>739345889>>739345980Yet you're playing Riot games on these...
People are always complaining about hackers and cheaters in online games, but 99% of the time I'm never bothered by them. The only time a hacker is a problem for me is if they are not able to take damage and die. They can use all the auto aiming and wall hacks they want. It makes me a better player as I'm now going up against someone that (should) completely and utterly outmatch me. Makes that kill all the more sweeter.
an anticheat software having the power to brick your whole system isn't something to be celebrated, no matter the context. one wrong faulty line of code in a future vanguard update could kill millions of devices. riot's kernel level malware vanguard is a customers right violation
>>739345959Do you not think its a bit silly to take video games so serious?
>>739341209A lot of confidence in what would result in a getting sued if it somehow hits a false positive.
>>739346041good thing you hallucinated this ridiculous scenario. it would indeed be quite bad.
>>739346041>an anticheat software having the power to brick your whole system isn't something to be celebratedGood thing thats not whats happening here
Why even play multiplayer games?
>>739345991they have many usesno one should have to reinstall an OS because riot decides to fuck with your system>>739345998if this is the path you want then don't develop for pc's
>>739343468It's not just that there's a ten thousand cheaters for every dev on the dev team, but the guys selling cheats and cheat hardware to people make huge stacks of money from it, probably as much as or more than the actual game itself - $400 for the hardware, then you've got the software too, often subscription based. Even if only 10% of the playerbase is cheating in a given game, this is fuckloads of money.It's why I don't bother with competitive stuff anymore. The only way you can really fix this problem is by designing a game such that people either don't want to cheat or the fundamental design is just very difficult to cheat.
>>739346042I think everything is fair game the moment publishers start distributing malware. I hope hackers manage to tap into this to damage "legitimate" hardware even before false positives happen.
>>739343602>I have a feeling Riot is about to lose some money over this if its trueI dehumanize the jeet scam number that ripped my aunt off daily, sometimes getting screams and full-on crying, and have yet to be hit with any hate speech citations, because just like the cheaters, they'd have to tell an uncaring American judge WHY they were in this position in the first place (wire fraud, telemarketing, number hijacking/spoofing)Now imagine some Chinese kid demanding extradition because Riot banned his Aliexpress DMA setup, this thread is proof they won't do S H I T
>>739346096>>739346075it could just as easily brick your ssd you realize?
>>739346117>if this is the path you want then don't develop for pc'sor you could not cheat at valorant on your "Algorithmic Financial Trading" machines
>>739346103This. I dunno how you guys still play online games if you are over like you early 20s.
>>739346103to defeat something not designed to be defeated
>>739341691I hope no one pulls a reverse "fags tweeting Nintendo about mods and emulators" and tells a bunch of hacking groups about this on te le gr amFuck you mods, it isn't spam just because I mention a site you don't like
>>739346154it could just as easily drain you bank account and upload an FBI tip that you have CP, think about it
>>739346103dont you want to be a pro and get paid a million dollars!?truth is only teenagers and streamers give a shit about elo.
>>739346042Im not though?I know im better, im just removing random factors out of the equation by buffing myself enough so I can offset my teammates throwing
>>739345980>AI hallucination post
>>739345668There you go.
>>739346312>I know I'm a real woman I'm just removing my penis from the equation
>>739346203>be at work>decide to play some valorant>have to explain to my boss why riot bricked a system
>>739346364>compfag cant stop thinking about trannydicks
Unless I'm misunderstanding, nothing is getting bricked. this is a $6000 card that gives direct memory access and allows you to cheat in games, they figured out how to detect it so the implication is it's a paperweight because you can't cheat anymore, the device still functions.
Everyone relax. I think it's good that the chancellor has this power. He's fighting the separatists. He's on our side.
>>739346357Why would you have fun cheating? Its fake victory.
>>739343041The only way to successfully prevent cheaters is by having the only way to play the game to be at sanctioned locations that have regular inspections, but still have player gameplay analysis on top. And even then this will only work until we get some form of wearable cheat device. And then it's all over once cybernetic augments become a thing.
>>739346407CORRECT
>>739346407actually readhttps://x.com/ogisadaDMA/status/2056744450362048835it requires a full OS reinstall to unfuck it
>>739343335>>739343602>>739345068I mean they did click yes on the user agreement box that no one reads.
>>739346501damn that must be really scary to tech illiterate zoomer faggots who just want to cheat in valorant
>>739346407INCORRECT
>>739346415All victories in video games are fake unless there is a monetary gain.
>>739346501Should not embed your cheats into your OS
>>739341209That stupid post is why there's so much confusion. The device isn't a paperweight if it only requires an OS reinstall.I hate lying, sensationalist pieces of shit.
>>739346379>start with conversation with>Well, I installed unapproved software on an enterprise device and then....>boss stops you>you have said enough>here is the door>and a bill for the hardware your negligence destroyed>goodbye foreverCare to come up with any more batshit insane scenarios as part of your anti-cheat fear mongering?
>>739345862It's not like getting banned from one server bans you from all of them, just join another retard
>>739346563>You have been banned: flanking is not allowed on this server
>>739346535>DOOD ITS ACTUALLY SO MALICIOUS AND AFFECTS PEOPLE NOT CHEATING>screenshot from unknowncheatslmao
>>739342228Who buys this? What the fuck?
>>739346549its not embedded in the OS moronits a separate devicethis is bricking the OS so it can't talk to the device
>>739346546Well in a single player game you are moving the story forward and getting access to more story or more levels or whatever. In online games you are just repeating the same things over and over a million times and not really getting anything new. So the victory in a single player game gives you access to more of the game but that is not the case in online games.
>>739346560ok lets change it to>boss or boss's kid play valorant on company systemnow what?
>>739346608>bricking the OS>
>>739346646they have a security problem and bricked hardware is the least of their concern
>>739346651>modifying the users operating system in a malicious way without consent and without a way of undoing itor in other words, bricking the OS
>>739346608My PC works without that device, is it bricked?
>>739341474Sure, glad I'm not playing that faggot game anyway, but who in their right mind would think it's okay for some chink/kike spyware anticheat get so deep it can brick your machine? Fuck outta here with your corpodicksucking attitude
>>739341691That's probably a lawsuit waiting to happen
>>739346735imagine for a second you want to use a FPGA for some other reasonthen yes, your OS is bricked
>>739346646I wasn't allowed to touch the Amiga's at my Dad's fire department in the 90's without getting yelled at by FOUR different people, but sure, a current year datacenter where the average PC contains $2000 in parts is gonna let kids go online using an enterprise system, let alone have employees that think this is a good ideaYou're typing kinda jeety btw
>>739346708nigger open a dictionary before trying to communicate with humans
>>739343335cheating should be illegal
>>739346794we had standards in the 90'slast year my boss side stepped IT and installed a starlink on his roof to have a separate internet without any blocks....
>>739346735imagine that when you're not busy cheating at valorant you want to run the stock exchange and suddenly can't#relatable
>>739346212>dit bord bestaatZijn er nou echt zo veel indianen in nederland...?
>Playing Riot games>Cheating in riot gamesThey should ask israel how to remotely detonate electronic devices instead of this weak shit
>>739346854>be day trader with FPGA>play games on the same machine since i am a pleb day trader>riot bricks my OS and i have to spend several days backing up and reinstalling my OS>can't make any trades for days>go bankruptthanks riot!
10 years ago "your OS is bricked" would have become a meme for being so pants on head retarded but now it's indistinguishable from the average post
>>739345068ROIT themselves posted that dumbass
>>739346628The point of competitive online games is to pwn people, cheating is just an extension of that.
>>739346792>>739346854damn, I really cant miss out on those crypto scams while cheating
Before you type>Indian or Chinese?at tard-esqe posts, don't forget>Kick streameralso applies ITT as well
>>739341758It makes the cheat hardware unusable in that windows instalation I think it fucks with something in the PCIE hardware drivers at the OS level if you care that much just reformat and download valorant and play legit.The hardware hack method is done for at this point.
>>739344353What side is the OP post picture?
>>739347015cheaters are saying it only fucks with one specific type of card and all others are fine
>>739342990There's literally no way to trigger a false positive with this it was 100% targeted at hardware cheaters it's not like foobar2000 can trigger it.
>>739341209>Playing Riot slopI shiggy diggy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-programmable_gate_arrayFPGA's are cool as fuck
>>739347010Smurfing is not cheating and should never be punishable
>>739341209This is why Valorant has less cheaters than CS
>>739347063>have FPGA card for my side hobby>valorant perma bans me and then as a kind gesture also makes me unable to use my FPGAquestion: if riot can detect and ban the player for hardware cheating why do they go the extra step to fuck with the card/os?
>>739347102Arduinos must be magical to you
>>739346741There's still zero proof any of this happened, and that it wasn't some tech illiterate retard who just fucked up their own PC.
>>739347173what hobby is that? you wouldn't lie on the internet would you?
>>739347173>why do they go the extra step to fuck with the card/os?because they can lol you clicked accept and installed the rootkit what did you expect? be thankful they didn't delete system 32
>>739343335Cheaters have no recourse :^)
>>739347181actually they still are even though i two next to me and a few esp32'smicrocontrollers are cool as fuck
In one hand>Cheaters get fucked lmaoIn the other>Companies can brick your hardware at their whimGoncern
They are breaking firmware directly because banning accounts based on hardware ID were reported to cause false positive due to ID spoofing
>>739347010>Tyler Faraz Niknam, better known as Trainwreckstv>He is of Iranian descenthes brownthe cheating trinity of brownoids/russians/chinese is a fact
>>739345809>suing cheatersdude, it's a fucking videogame
>>739347223>be thankful they didn't delete system 32actually unrecoverable
>>739347204my hobby is collecting weird pcie cards and cool hardware :3
>>739347310that's cool. don't play this specific shit game with that specific card connected I guess.
>>739341209Reminder that Dota 2 is free.
>>739347310is this your pcie slot?
>>739347353>don't play this specific shit game with that specific card connected I guess.i think i will actually then sic the australian government onto them
i dont give a shitfuck cheatersfuck riot and their retarded niggercattle gamesfuck this stupid bait threadfuck this retarded boardfuck niggersfuck the jannies
>>739342228circumcision is less cringe than this
>>739347127>Smurfing is not cheatingSmurfing to fix active bets on a match while your entire gimmick is e-gambling is a bad thing, anon-kun, and discovery would absolutely fuck him if TW actually decided to go after Riot over this, because "gambler" and "Kick streamer" is not a combo for someone that tells the truth about their taxes and financials
>>739347485ok good luck dude
>>739341209Class action lawsuit when? And will they still be laughing then?
>>739347504This is a post I can get behind.
>>739347561>Class action lawsuit when?two weeks>And will they still be laughing then?yes
>>739343747EULA's are worthless in the face of state and federal laws.
>>739343482>deep kernel anticheats forces BIOS updatesFor fuck's sake, not even AutoCAD or scientific software for advanced math and shit does something like this. How about people just get some fucking taste for once and stop playing these shitty games? Boy am I glad I fucking hate anything that's anywhere close to MOBA/CRAPCUNTS/ASSFAGGOTS...
>>739341582what card?
>>739341209Okay. So don't cheat then?
Anons please help, I am ignorant about the issue and scared about Vanguard and any other riot games shit staying hidden in my PC.I factory reset my PC after Vanguard was first dropped. But I am now reading in this thread Vanguard actually affects your hardware and is still hidden in your pc collecting data and shit. Is that true? Did factory resetting not clean that shit, I need a new PC?
Even if you broke the ToS and cheated. Even if you cheated hard. Riot aren't legally allowed to destroy my computer.
>>739347758have they already destroyed your computer, legal or otherwise?
>>739347742not only do you have AIDS but even buying a new computer will not remove the dastardly software
>>739347641>agree to install brickware>it bricks>NOOOOOOOOOOO UNCLE SAM SAVE MEEEEEEE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEso called 'capitalist' mutts are pathetic.
>>739347521How is it match fixing if the player is not throwing? Being better is now a crime?
>>739343171>MitMCorrect, that's what "Man in the Middle" means. It's passing the keyboard through itself to modify the inputs before going through the PCIe bus to the CPU.
>>739347459>mfw pic
>>739341209why does everybody on this website just lie?
>>739347785Please be honest, I am actually getting anxious. Did the factory reset work or not?
>>739347819No one reads that shit, rightfully so. Contracts are rendered void when they break the law.
>>739347898thank grok
>>739342228>dude, i am a cheater chad, lmao>that's why i'm paying 6000 dollara to win against toddlers in Fall guysCheaters are literally NEVER coming back from this.
>>739347994No problem, user. You can basically formerly Google this next time.
>>739347836P*rsian, meth-covered hands wrote this post
sir.... how can they the bricking??????????
Arbitrators may hold Riot liable for the damages regardless of what the EULA says if they find that it was intentional or through gross negligence
>>739346909>israelthey are too stupid for thatit was the CIA. which is the same but a little bit different still
>>739347031just the pic? riot enforcing their anti-cheat.the small indie cheat devs should sue.
As always, everybody involved deserves to be dead.
good morning my OS is bricking today because of bloody benchod riot sirs rape you tomorrow
>>739341582Why? Why black list a gpu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wetbo3HY7mo
Reading through this thread is like a bad trip.
>>739345186BECAUSE I HAVE TO WIN!
>>739347776Data is considered property. They fucked with the person's os or gpu or whatever to make it not work, effectively bricking that setup.
>>739348440effectively bricking, or bricking?
>>739345809Epic does that.
>>739348457sir the OS is brick do not redeem the vanguard
>>739348457The data + hardware combination is bricked. They messed with it and made it not work anymore. People have been successfully sued for deleting someone else's game saves.
>>739348061What the fuck are you sperging about? Do you honestly think people even know these people or what you're on about?
>>739346535>all this tech gooblygook Why not just play the game normally?
Toaster: epic gaming PCDelicious EGGO waffle: DMA cardGay little brother: thirdieGigachad brother: Riot
their DRM is bricking SSDs? Sounds like Tencent hired those ex-microsoft programmers to write their anti-cheat who were bricking SSDs with Win11 updates lel
>>739348650>their DRM is bricking SSDs?no proof yet but everyone ignores the giant DMA-sized card sitting between the SSD and mobo
cool. if you cheat in online games you're not a person and i don't care what happens to you
>>739348616>Do you honestly think people even know these people or what you're on about?Considering TW and his retards are the source for the DMAcaust being discussed ITT, yes? He was nuked for smurfing, so all the Kicktards are rushing everywhere to defend his honor by going>see!!?!? SEE!?!?!? Riot is objectively evil and can no longer be trusted to make fair decisions if they destroy your property!!!
>>739341335FPBP
I love how people injecting code into the game are now full on legal scholarsthat are going to report Riot to their local senator and eu customer protection agency because their 6000 cheating card is now a brick and they actually have to play the game normally.
based. cheaters deserve worse.
>>739348294So that person can sell that GPU to someone who doesnt realize its been banned.
Why am i supposed to feel bad about this?
>>739344267With how many streamers show their PC insides on cam, I wonder if you could find these hardware visible on camera
>>739348410 Nah, not the motive. Most cheaters are broke thirdies from shithole countries and they cheat to boost an account before selling it.
>>739343747>Anyone playing their games is shit out of luck in the realm of consumer protection.Not in Australia.I got banned from League years and years ago and I got a full refund on every cent I ever spent on the game.Our consumer law literally trumps anything in any EULA, you literally cannot sign away your basic consumer rights in Australia, even if you physically force me to sign away my rights or click on some bullshit to agree to it (companies still do this to try and trick Aussies into thinking they have no rights) it isn't legally binding whatsoever and every company knows it, and technically even telling Aussies they don't have those rights is in breach of our law, so right off the bat they're setting themselves up to get fucked.Unironically tempted to install their fucking malware and get my shit banned in their fruity tooty fagfest CS with magic just to rake them over the coals.
>>739349001It's based and redpilled to cheat in Valorant and League
>>739349001Just dont be surprised when that sweet 5090 you buy for $2000 off ebay is blacklisted from playing valorant.
>>739344071This, what is stopping you from installing ubuntu for example.
>>739349069So, you'rr gonna buy a 6000 dollar cheat card from China, go through the process of installing it on your second 2000 dollar pc so you could get banned and Riot somehow havingnto pay YOU 10000 dollars for it?
>>739342228So it's just the Chinese doing it and I'm supposed to feel bad?
>>739348806This thread is about hardware cheats, not your eceleb crush
>>739349164Pretty sure the anticheat on this game is only compatible with Windows 11.
>>739349069They'll refund your microtransactions and game purchase price, not your PCI card that can only be used for cheating. Idiot.
>>739344267Who the fuck wants to watch emiru play temu guilty gear? What's wrong with the chinese?
>>739341209Next time try playing a better game that isn't garbage.
>>739349138>can't play a shit gameoh no?!
>>739349298You don't have to sign your posts on this website
>>739344267I take pride in not knowing who these are.
>>739341691good, fuck cheaters
>>739349269Yeah I mean you will not be able to play the game anymore but you will be able to use your computer normally.
>>739348975>Built-in ban that filters all the horrible games made by EA adjacentI'll pay extra $5 for that.
>>739349138I got mine for $1300 and I would never play Valorant. checkmate
>>739346556lol boomer dunning kruger post af
>>739345597DMAs won't change your IP address.
>>739349298>They'll refund your microtransactions and game purchase price, not your PCI card that can only be used for cheating. Idiot.Under Australian law they would be commiting criminal property damage. They have ZERO legal right to damage, let alone destroy something I own you snip dick corporate cuck.
>buhboo its only cheaters so its okay!REMINDER: Amazon banned tens of thousands of accounts for leaving a negative review.Riot was shown just last week that they can snoop on your PC and credentials, and employees just do it for fun and to stalk people.Your information isn't removed from their database and they regularly break GDPR.
>>739342663try not being broke
>>739349220My eceleb crush is the reason this thread has the punctuation and typos it does, friend, as he's currently streaming boomer slot machine apps because of his ban while seething about Riot, all while his thirdie audience vows to spread the wordOn the subject of TW/gamblers, the reason this particular DMA card is $6000 is because it's marketed towards people who cheat on matches with bets attached to them, so it's assumed they have a decent chunk of change to keep the grift going, i.e. Kick streamers
>>739343335read the contract next time ivan you cheating nigger
>>739341209dma cards only work because windows doesn't use the iommu to isolate pci cards from each other and memoryunlike linux, which fully utilises the iommu for security
>>739349502>they regularly break GDPR.based
>>739349502Riot randomly detects other games as cheats and can ban you for it. If you play any game with Vanguard, basically, you're retarded.
>>739349502>regularly break GDPRCan't be true otherwise EU lawyers would be gaping them in court right now, they love doing that shit.
>>739344921I kind of think of that like performance enhancing drugs or a theoretical superhuman competing in a sport. If there were a handful of humans who were simply born different, and that difference gave them the capability to be an order of magnitude better athlete than other players, would it be fair to ban them on grounds of being too good?The same goes for when AI becomes good enough to not only emulate a human playing a video game, but when that AI suddenly becomes far beyond humans in terms of skill. Will online gaming eventually just become AIs fighting other AIs on behalf of their masters, with humans becoming passive observers? Even if you try to ban AI by the simple heuristic of just being too good, what do you do when they lower their skill level to be imperceptible compared to someone just really good at the game?I think at that point, the only way we could play video games against one another would be to go to a neutral environment like an arcade that confirms neither side is cheating by providing the hardware they play on and inspecting the players for cybernetics and such. If you were to try and just play on the internet like we've done in old times, you'd never score a single kill or point because of the prevalence of AI, making it only possible to play games against people you know and hope a gentlemen's agreement not to cheat is something both sides will go with.
>>739344001 herei'm trans btwnintendo lost btw
>>739349502>Riot was shown just last week that they can snoop on your PC and credentials, and employees just do it for fun and to stalk people"People" implies "Human", and Tyler is neither, weird how everyone fails to mention WHY he was stalked!
>>739341338That Vanguard can now be classified as hardware-damaging malware.
>>739349679Am i supposed to know who that is?
>>739349502I'm not European (thank god).Why would you play this game anyways Christ.
>>739349525So a literal nobody got a ban and their kiddy audiences got mad?Good.I still dont understand why anyone would care other than just telling cheaters to fuck off
>>739349707I have yet to see anyone saying that hardware is damaged. it just fucks up some driver for a device and you can fix it with a reinstall
>>739349770>Thank god I dont have rightssaar? you ok saar?
>>739349601>Riot is so petty they weaponize their anticheat to flag their competition as false positivesThis is the company that retards trust with ring 0 access to their computers.
>>739346503if you want an example of things that a shrinkwrap software agreement cannot include, "destroys your hardware" is pretty high up the list, just under "we can send thugs to shoot you in the knee if we feel like it"
>>739349601nothing sus about a powershell window downloading a completely unrelated executable and using it to launch another program that happens to be deadlock
>>739349727Yes, the campaign against Riot currently is being boosted by his retard fanshttps://sports.ndtv.com/us/us-streamers/ofcourse-you-can-sue-xqc-says-trainwreckstv-can-sue-riot-games-after-riot-employee-leaked-streamer-s-ip-address-online-11483462
>>739341209what an interesting tech. I hope it gets used as training data for AI.
>>739342228Why are the Chinese so serious about cheating?
>>739349772RIOT BROKE THEBFUCKING LAW!
>>739341860An EULA ceases to be valid if it interferes with its home country's laws. Look at what happened to Ubishit when they "revoked licenses" (forcefully removed) copies of The Crew from their owners' libraries. It was the straw that broke the camel's back and all but killed the company. Not to mention the whole SKG shebang.The same could happen to Riot if Vanguard screws up, break innocent people's PCs and they get sued for damages.
>>739346593yes always remember this board is incredibly brown and they are faking a principled stance and obfuscating the truth as much as possible because they are actually morally bankrupt cheaters that want to trick you into making it easier to ruin this hobby
>>739341209>Only cheaters and trannies mad at this
>>739349881Shut up.
>>739349960You can't cheat, Ivan/Raul/Xingjiang.It's over.
>>739349841answer his question, nigger
>>739349390You don't know the world famous streamer, AT&T? Damn.
>>739350073
>>739350062>You can't cheat, Ivan/Raul/Xingjiang.>It's over.This is going to confuse anyone without a foreskin. But there is a third position, it's called fuck cheaters, fuck chinks, fuck letting corporations and governments snoop in your shit and brick your private property.
>>739349390AT&T is a major telecom and the fact they were paid to stream that slop is hilariously chinese
>>739341691i wish this was true
>>739345812people will pay money for a high-ranked account to smurf on
>>739342990HOLY SHIT! I knew it!
>>739344147Consider the alternative then where if you are nuisance enough in private servers, you eventually get corked by some nerd, he overvolts your CPU andor fries your northbridge after wiping your disks. It's a very simple social contract anon.Ps. Nothing is actually bricked here, it's twitter shitpost for normalfags.
>>739350280
>>739350289People have gotten sued for wiping someone else's game saves.
>>739350341I would love to read more about this retardation
>>739347485malding cheating tranny
every one of you that posted here are literal goy cattle that deserve to be fucking enslaved by your kike overlords, imagine buying hardware with your own fucking money, your literal life and blood, to be fucking controlled by a fucking 3rd party coz of vidya, fucking lmao.SAGE IN ALL FUCKING FIELDS
>>739350341You already said that and you'll still get banned <3
>>739350341Not companies?
>>739350586this guys skin is the color of poop lol
>>739341209I hope they damage as many of these fuckers as possible before they get the lawsuit that shuts them down. What they are doing is both based and highly illegal. It needed to be done and someone had to bite the bullet and fucking do it.
Imagine letting your anus get probed by the CCP only to have most bans be from manual reviews by thousands of Indians anyway.
>>739350648>highly illegalwhat is?
>>739350619A company would held liable for damaging property. Why wouldn't it be?
>>739349171>So, you'rr gonna buy a 6000 dollar cheat card from China, go through the process of installing it on your second 2000 dollar pc so you could get banned and Riot somehow havingnto pay YOU 10000 dollars for it?A DMA card isn't "a cheat card" anymore than the USB drive you had full of games that you took to high school was a "piracy stick", DMA cards have legitimate software and hardware development use cases, which is why they fucking existed long before microdick chinks started using them to cheat, anyone in software or hardware engineering has them or access to them. Are those gaudy, overpriced ching chong ping pong cards being used to cheat? Absolutely, as is the microdick chink way, but that still doesn't give Riot or anyone any fucking right to brick peoples hardware.If they're bricking the firmware on DMA cards as a pre-emptive anti-cheat measure through their fucking rootkit anti-cheat they are breaking the law and yes, I will happily set them up to destroy a few grand of hardware, fuck I might even set it up so they destroy government hardware, and then bury the australian government deep in their ass, just like we buried them in gabes ass. Riot are cunts and cunts deserve to get fucked and quite frankly the fact that chink owned companies are freely installing rootkits on peoples computers needs to fucking end and blatant cases of criminal damage and foreign espionage is a good step toward that end.
>>739350770if data is property why can't I sue Adobe when their shit fucking programs crash and lose me a bunch of progress
>>739350770The question wasn't "would".
>>739341691>Vanguard now has full access to your PC to the point that they can bricking if they want>this only happens to cheaters for now>for nowI'm sure this technology will not be abused by (((big corporations))) and (((governments))) in the future, really...BRB, going to install Lunix asap.
>>739350802Nah you wont do shit as usual
>>739350853>Nah you wont do shit as usualHow'd that work out for Valve?
>>739350809Lack of malicious intent plus the fact that the data you're using within the confines of adobe'a programs.
>>739350853This. Bitch will literally shit xhers pants and just take it.>dude, i'll totally take a trillion dollar company to court and win even though i was the one in the wrongOkay buddy.
>>739341338they blacklist your hardware id
>>739350983that has to be heckin illegal or something
>>739350930>Lack of malicious intentI disagree I can literally hear an adobe engineer laughing through my PC as it crashes. I fucking hate that guy.
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>>739351040
>>739350960>dude, i'll totally take a trillion dollar company to court and win even though i was the one in the wrongIf he simply has a DMA card installed and Riot bricks it, how would he be in the wrong? And the Australians literally took Valve to court and won.
>>739345773probably top rank players for tournament prizes
>>739343291Kyle Rittenhouse got one.
>>739351072because the card isn't bricked and incurred no damages monetary or otherwise to the user
>>739351072>if...Riot bricks itany day now
>>739347819I'm not a capitalist
>>739351072you should actually read what the brickware did instead of just assuming it made the bugman's computer explode. riot games isn't headquartered in israel.
>>739351162>because the card isn't bricked and incurred no damages monetary or otherwise to the userThey openly claim to be bricking the firmware on DMA cards, if he uses the card for work, or it's government property, then yes there is massive damages, both monetary and otherwise.
Wow, suddenly all the complains about rootkit anti cheat doesn't seem so pedantic anymore, does it.
>>739351240"They"?
>>739351240see you're using that word wrong again. if a device is bricked it will never work again. we are talking about reinstalling the OS to repair some drivers. that takes less than 10 minutes and doesnt even risk any data loss
>>739351206>you should actually read what the brickware didI did, it's absolutely illegal to brick the firmware on someones hardware remotely. Not even a remotely grey area.
>>739351309Lol
tbf anyone installing a riot game should be killed anyway
If Riot shut down Valorant and League tomorrow the DMA cards would be bricks and Riot would be held liable.
brown bricks
>>739342228>Heino
>>739341209Yeah Riots fucked, that's insanely illegal. That along with the leaks about them spying on people is going to end fucking spectacularly.
>>739342228cheating in games is funny but spending money to do it is gay and trans
>>739345773the Chinese>>739346595the Chinese
>>739345425>Ranjeet running the system would never ID fake-positives
>buying dma cards to cheat in the most dogshit games on earth while earning $0 doing itpeak goy
>>739351623>fuck, his ssd WASN'T connected through a dma card! d'oh!
>>739341691
>>739350809same way why Samaritan Law exists.Encourage people to do nothing instead of doing something is counterproductive.
>>739351643People pay 120USD/m subscription fees to cheat on Tarkov, and 100-250USD/m subs for CS cheat kits and even more for personalized kits with unique fingerprints so they don't get caught in banwaves. 5-6K one time investment is pocket money for degens.
>Insert Vanguard Anal Probe to complete security verification
No one caresJust stop cheating
>>739341860if a "yes im 18+" is no longer enough then neither is accepting an eula with a single clickcry me a river
>>739341209>The CCP can literally destroy probably half of the US' infastructure just like thatThe chinks knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they posted this
Please anons, answer me I beg you, foes factory reseting a PC clean it from this malware called vanguard or not? I am brazilian and too stupid to understand how software actually works, I just don't want vanguard shit in my pc
>>739341209No price is too much if we can get racist loser virgins to stop saying the nword
>>739341758On one hand>cheaters getting their entire system brickedbasedOn the other hand>companies having the ability to brick someone's entire system blue pilled
>>739342663The chinese have REALLY small penises, and dominating people in a game is all they have.
>>739341209This is also illegal under deliberate sabotage. Riot is about to get fucked really hard by this
>>739347459>OH YEAH DADDY STEAM>YEAH, GIVE ME YOUR ALWAYS ONLINE >YEAH, GIVE ME YOUR YOU DONT OWN THE GAME>YEAH, GIVE ME YOUR FORCE LAUNCH TRU STEAM SERVER You all Steam cocksucker need to get purged.
>>739341209It's wild how jewish chinese companies are and how subversive chinese cheaters are.It's almost like they're one and the same and jews created the CCP or something.
>>739352325this is like somone trying to sue their drug dealer cause they sold you packed flour instead of Cocaine. You think the Cheater will sue cause RIOT bricked their Cheated External Device? Could they, maybe, will they.. probably no
>>739341209Can a data center get a vac ban?
>>739352439Companies that can and did brick your PC at any time and make it unusable:RiotCompanies that cannot brick your PC at any time:Valve
>>739350802>If they're bricking the firmware on DMA cards as a pre-emptive anti-cheat measure through their fucking rootkit anti-cheat they are breaking the lawRefer to this post>>739346151The people making these cards are violent criminals, the same way people making Xecuter hardware were violent criminals, no amount of thirdie lying would stop what discovery would uncover. They aren't part of a legit business, they're not part of any consumer rights groups, and because of this, they can't do shit without admitting that they are criminals, which is why they won't do shit, as cheating hardware is one of many things these groups are (illegally) doing. They can bitch and moan online, cite AI-generated gotchas that might imply Riot is in the wrong, call for your death, and demand that their eceleb daddies take a stand, but like stomping on a cockroach, there are zero consequences for bricking non-UL certified hardware from China made to break various lawsI repeat, there are zero - ZERO - consequences for doing this, Golden Woozoo DMA Sunshine Cards Inc would have to actually set-foot in the US and make their case WITHOUT getting immediately arrested, and end-users that try to do it for free domestically would get fucked for aiding and abetting foreign criminals
>>739352494>did
>>739341209>playing riot garbage in 2000+26you deserve it
>>739352508>cheating in a video game is violenceWhat the fuck
>>739352484>break the law>y-you cannot s-sue them b-because I s-say so!https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/act/offences/sabotage/There are a lot of jews rubbing their hands right now with the amount of money they are about to extract out of riot. This is probably the biggest erection they had since WW2>Section 423 of the Criminal Code 2002 outlines the offence of sabotage. A person can be charged with a sabotage offence if they damage another person’s property or if they intend to cause major disruption to another person or entity such as a government body, business or individual. Sabotage can also be technological such as accessing or damaging computer data that you were not authorised to access.
if nanny australia wants to do something riot could always stop operating there and tell them to fuck themselvesprobably won't happen, but would be great
>>739341209>Will someone think of the poor cheaterOP, You are a faggot
>>739352623you can't even define property damage in this anonymous conversation with a bunch of gay retards, and you think you are going to convince a judge of it?
I want to assume riot has ZERO jeet or ai-made code, so this does not end up bricking the pcie port itself, or the other thing thats connected to one AKA the graphics cardnot that i play riot anything since 2014
>>739352623Nigga you are stupid. If RIOT breaking the law, probably yes, but no one will be soo stupid to sue when they were engaging in dumb shit too.
Reminder that Windows is just a mossad trojan waiting for the right time to shut down most PCs in the World
>>739352726>waitingwas that not cloudstrike
>>739352721Last time I checked Riot is the only one running sub-kernel level "anticheats" (bricking malware) that can sabotage PCs, as we can see here >>739342990They are FUCKED. ROYALLY. They better lube up their tiny chinese asses and spread over
>give Riot access to your bios>Riot flags your drive as "doesn't exist" to Window>Brick You can always reinstall the OS afterwards
>>739352786>that can sabotage PCExternal Cheating Devices ARE NOT PC you fucking nigger.
Anything but region banning china and russia huh?
>>739352721This is the equivalent of parking illegaly and instead of getting a ticket you get your car burned down. No, not everything goes because some teen cheated on a fucking game
>>739352612>(the people who enable) cheating in a video game is (funding their operation by) violenceDo you think the term "money laundering" implies a clean operation because it uses washing terminology? When people tried to make Gary Bowser a martyr, they forgot that Xecuter was doing a lot more shit than just "modding", and were dabbling in stealing from cargo containers/shipments and bribing people to look the other way, and considering the DMA card in question is MARKETED TOWARDS ESPORTS FIXERS, then yes, the violent world of Chinese gambling is involved, especially since an industry exists over there to make a cheating-centric card with no questions asked
>Riot doing illegal shit with their malwareYou dont say?>Found intentionally sabotaging battlefield 6 if found to be installed next to valorant>Just recently deadlock toohttps://x.com/deadlock_8/status/2051263314638868825
>>739352867>This is the equivalent of parking illegaly and instead of getting a ticket you get your car burned down.No nigger, this is the equivalent of Parking, then Taking the 2 adyacent parking spaces with a Truck load, and somone cutting the tires of the truck load. YOUR car still OK, the illegal Parking Part is not. Buy Rope, cry, seethe
>>739341209>cheating>playing riot "games">using windowsgo back to plebbit ranjesh
>>739352838>External Cheating DevicesDMA's have legitimate uses other than cheating, Riot is breaking the law by bricking the firmware on them with their rootkit anti-cheat.I sincerely hope Riot are paying you to spread misinformation on their behalf, also a crime, and you're not just tonguing their asshole because you like the taste.
so was this entire thread just a psyop to redefine/destroy the word "bricking"
he's circled back around to the hobbyist DMAer who plays anti-DMA games on the same machine
better not be running task manager, BOY
>>739352847>Anything but region banning china and russia huh?Wild isn't it.
>>739352885>gambling is violenceWhat the fuck
People spend 6k to cheat?
>>739353020a small price to be the best
>>739352921>and somone cutting the tires of the truck loadWhich is a crime of vandalism, thanks for proving my point
>>739353014It's one of the oldest sources of violence in the world, and given the age/skin color of everyone ITT, this video should showcase how fast gambling escalates to violencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQXUhGz8sw
If you play ASSFAGGOTS you deserve far worse.
>>739341209I have to admit this is the ultimate anti-cheat deterrent. Cheat in our game? Okay, your computer is dead now
>>739353110You're completely deranged. Spend less time watching cartoons and go outside.
>>739353014Unsavoury businesses like matchfixing, gambling, hookers etc. Are still controlled by Triads in China and they will break your fingernails and feed you your testicles if you meddle with their business. Same for Euro regions, but it's smaller syndicates with more localized gangs and outfits with sometimes mafia, either russian, old school, or balkan mafia stepping in to break some toes.
>>739341338The League of Legends company forces players to install their proprietary rootkits if they want to play their games. They're now using it to remotely brick your PC and force players to buy new components in a time when RAM, GPUs, storage devices, etc. are both scarce and hyperinflated in value. And they're not even waiting for you to say nigger to do this.
>>739353110>gambling is violence>here's a fucking family guy episode to prove my pointWew lad.
>>739346591Then literally just go to one of the 100+ other servers, there will be at least a few that won't care enough to ban you from them for that reason and most will be extremely easy to find since all you had to do was read the fucking name of the server to figure it out.I played on almost exclusively clan servers and mg servers back in CSS and I had more fun doing that than I've ever had playing ranked in literally any other game because every player knew how to fucking read and thought to themselves >Welp, I guess "NOOBS WELCOME" means that I'll just get kicked or bent for playing-to-win on here, so I won't and I'll just chill or find another serverIt literally is a self regulating system that gives everyone exactly what they want.
>>739342228The anti-cheat still shouldn't have that level of access to an operating system though. That shouldn't be legal. This has further reaching consequences than just a video game anti-cheat.
>>739353214what a strange thing to set up bots to lie about
>>739353253dude you realize you are suggesting self regulation as a solution to a bunch of chinks who would spend thousands of dollars to cheat?
>>739353240Pretty much! This vid should ALSO give you a good idea on what DMA cheaters will be experiencing with each banwavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9j3heYZAk8For those who can't follow,Peter: cheaterPeter's knee: DMA cardSidewalk: Riot games
>>739353278Retarded cattle dont realize the extensions of corps being allowed to brick your hardware on a whim.
>>739341209>ban chinese companies like riot from installing rootkits in peoples PC's>ban chinese entirely from playing games online and the internet>do the same for jeets because when in RomeProblem solved.
>>739353364thanks anon I followeded
>>739353371zoomie niggers still don't understand what bricking means
i checked out my favourite site - reddit to see the reaction and people consider malware a conspiracy theory
>>739353472I checked out MY favorite site - gayporn.ru and you were on the front page
another quality thread fated to die...
>>739341209imagine being retarded enough to install chinese malware to begin with, just to play a gay faggot version of fucking Counter Strike
>>739341474Cool. So what about all the false positives this anticheat shits out?
>>739353345Dude, you realize that the chinks won't give a flying fuck if they get bent from 1 out of 100+ servers and will just fuck off to another server forever until they get banned from all of them? The argument is literally about:>1 point of failure vs 100+ points of failureWhen people got banned (for any reason) back when server browsers were a thing they just stayed gone instead of just buying another key and coming back 24 hours later because they had no reason to care they could terrorize other servers until they eventually got bored or ended up on "hack vs hack" servers, besides, there were at least as many cheaters back in the day but they didn't ruin games as much because they were filtered out quicker than they were filtered in if you just played on well regulated servers. This would all be extremely obvious if you actually weren't 5 years old and actually played mp vidya before 2010.
>>739353428>erm my car wasn't actually totaled because the kike at the insurance company underprized my wheels
>>739353428>actually riot doesn't brick your PC this is a bold faced lie ;)>so what do they do>oh they just make your PC completely unusable, thats not what bricking is!You will hang from the nearest tree once we get to you along with your slit eyed friends.
>>739353589if the device can be repaired it's not bricked no matter how bad your understanding of English is
>>739353615>make your PC completely unusableit quite literally doesn't but a big ol kike nose like you would never present my honest argument properly
>>739353664chinks are proving themselves to be no different to jews, and your behaviour is akin to both
>>739353629A quick google search could've spared you this embarrassment of not knowing about soft bricking.Why are zoomer shitskins so desperate to larp as people older thant them despite knowing shitall about a topic
>>739351943everyone's favourite police department, riot games
>>739353580IMO, server browsers would probably be a better system today because everyone has a computer in their pocket with permanent internet access so keeping tabs on a private server is piss easy, you could just set up an alert for whenever a player tries to contact you and have a shitty laptop set up to spectate the game 24/7 in order to spy on suspected cheaters, then you could just deal with them with a simple console command that you could type on your phone.
>dude, cheating is fucking based and you should do it at every turn>just be an inhuman, soulless bag of meat, lolWhy are Chinese "people" like this though?
>people call it malware for years>get called conspiracy theorists>turns out they were completely in the right and more
>>739353963>PLEASE RAPE ME HARDER MULTIBILLION DOLLAR ASSFAGGOTS COMPANY
>>739354025Just stop cheating :)
>>739353963Do you think they will reimburse you for a false positive?
>>739354108I don't have a 6000 cheat card installed on my pc <3Feel free to post an example of a false positive ban.
>>739354197Are you claiming their system is 100% perfect?
>>739341209>Playing ASSFAGGOTSSeems pretty deserved, desu
>>739354254Yes.
Honestly this just makes me feel stronger that modern online games are beholden to so much gay shit>just wanna play singleplayer game like Doom or something?>mostly simply just play and have fun even though modern games do retarded "you just bought a license :)" shit too>want to play online games?>as per the EULA Big Gayming Company needs to shove this explosive dildo up your ass and will instantly wreck your anus if they don't like you>perhaps some gay ass drama shitflinging with autistic faggots in the playerbase and other poopydickschizo literally whos>maybe even some FOMO hamster wheel matchmaking bullshit with live service DRM microtransaction fun on top>and much more!What happened to just some simple fun vidya gaymes?
>>739354197Sorry, I shouldn't have used a hypothetical with someone who can't imagine breakfast.What I meant is, do you think they will give *anyone* support if a false positive fucks them over? (to clarify, this means not you specifically, so it doesn't matter if you own cheat hardware or not)
Intrusive anticheats are horrible and Vanguard's is one of the worst. Know how if you mod a console (even if you don't cheat online etc) they can basically ban you console on a hardware level? This is what they're trying to do now, with requiring Win11 and the TPM chip (which on most mobos is not independently replaced). Of course its >Its only going to flag cheaters, what are you complaining about, cheater?and then >Its only going to flag cheaters and pirates, your fault for daring to pirate! and go on from there. Note how when one of these anticheats flags someone incorrectly, harms the OS, hardware, or user content outside of the game itself they're continually finding some justification. They want to exert control over your system to their benefit and they'll take any excuse to do so.This issue fucking up DMA / IOMMU devices and/or an OS running them is going to end up doing widespread damage outside of those actively cheating. It reminds me how StarForce (the Denuvo of its day. I was one of many who helped crack it at the time) variants would end up fucking up users of CD/DVD image mounting software AND the drivers / OS components for many physical DVD burners of the day. To start it isn't like this is going to affect many users because such DMA / IOMMU configuration isn't gong to be used widely on typical consumer hardware, but there are use cases. Hell, it wasn't that long ago that a number of anticheats ended up flagging anyone using Wine (and later Proton or any of its components) as cheating, but at least back then "old Blizzard" reacted to Warden (their internal AC for WoW and some other titles) flagging by apologizing, restoring the accts, and then working with Wine and some other Linux components to ensure that their use wouldn't flag anything negatively,.
>>739352815This sounds really reasonable for a video game companyEvidently, they can also brick whatever video games they don't want you to play, like what they did to DeadlockI love malware
>>739354254Post the false positive ban proof please <3
>>739354518>>739352908
>>739354579Just don't install Pcbro garbage?
>>739354625>immediately deflecting and shifting goalpostsThought so
>>739354579>ai generated picNice proof, bro.
>>739354658>wwaaaaaaaah I can't stop myself from installing deadlock
>>739354903So good.
>>739354295Space Marine 2 is pretty good, but if you want some of the more niche chapters or some customization stuff it's locked behind a ton of DLC bullshit, but otherwise it's the most fun I've had in a multiplayer game in awhile
>>739349883>xqcoh that retardwhat a retard
>>739354903Heheheheheh
>>739352439>You all Steam cocksucker need to get purged.You are a Dalit who fucks his sister.
>"Time is emaciated and round" - Corrosion Coalhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/493944252/>memory malfunctions, VAC banned, lol too bad it's not negotiable! >I am actually in the process of putting together enough plaintiffs for a class action civil law suit against Valve for not removing VAC warning on our accounts>The ban happened long after I stopped playing anyway but im still a little butthurt. What the fuck was I supposed to do about hackers giving me xp?
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