Patch day
>>739343891Oh, great. Another "general" thread that this game gets daily.
>NEW: WatcherYour reaction?
>>739343891Fastensisters....our block....
>>739344073The next new character they add is probably going to be the lizard guy on Dramatic Entrance This is a REALLY specific guy with a unique color palate when other colorless cards use generic guy stand ins
>>739344485Are they really nerfing it? You don't even get colorless enough for it to be a consistent problem
>>739344942He also looks awesome, but its probably not him considering silent already has green cards, unless the blacked out parts are like yellow
>>73934500610 block for 1 energy in a card you have mutiple copies of is kinda crazy tho
>>739343891https://steamcommunity.com/games/2868840/announcements/detail/670617878982033686
>>739345006>Are they really nerfing it?Yeah it was fucking crazy you could just pick fasten up on any character and you would win >You don't even get colorless enough for it to be a consistent problemGo to more shops and take more events and you'll angle more colorless cards over time. Fasten is only an uncommon so it's also pretty likely to show up.
>>739345168I feel like I see the rare colorless a lot more than the uncommon ones for some reasonI find Beatdown nearly every run it seems like
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241478984938/76561197997192985one more lobby, and also I hate playing as regent and they should delete him from the game
>>739345360Is the shop not always one uncommon one rare for colorless? And thats the main way to get them
>>7393453873/4, where is pic rel for aeon counter?
>>739343997>his favorite game doesn't get special treatmentshould have consulted anita
i like how much trouble they are having with making skulking colony good. i think the changes probably made him easier overall which i don't know if thats really the direction they should have went
>>739345789I don't see why they insist on the damage cap mechanic. That's the issue with him. Get rid of that shit and give him a gimmick that works.
>>739345789it's not that the Skulking Colony is hard or easy. Having to wait extra turns when you know you can beat him is so boring to deal with.
>>739345939if they decide to keep the damage cap mechanic, they should increase the limit each time you break it. Then at a certain HP threshold, the damage cap will be removed. He will suicide bomb. Either kill him or block it, and he dies. No more waiting.
>Fixed an issue where, after winning an Elite combat and receiving a potion reward, your odds of receiving another potion reward in the next combat could sometimes go up instead of downI wonder how often this was happening. Could be pretty significant. I did notice recently I was getting a ton of potions.
Are the chinks still mad
>>739343891wot da patch doin
>>739345387I mis-clicked and discarded a plating potion please rehost
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241480878255/76561197997192985REHOST
>>739345387F
>>739344073I hate the Watcher, I know it's heresy to say that, but it's true.
>>739346954Hating watcher is not a hot take. That character is shit.
>>739344073My dad works at Slay the Spire and he said watcher is delayed because Anita isn't happy with the design.
Watcher will have Ying and Yang mode (visible bulge in Yang mode).
>>739345986>not hard just annoyingholy shit when will you shitters stop posting your dogshit takesthe damage cap mechanic is fine.
i am about to watch a jorbs video. its one hour long. pray for me bros.
>>739346954counterpoint, every game is better with a sexy women of color. blue, purple, green, etc
>Howl from Beyond is end of turn nowIroncladbros we can't stop winning !>Fasten NerfedDeserved>Skulking Colony neuteredGood, fuck that nigger
Any hosters????
>>739347731okaysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241483195540/76561198071365002
game got considerably harder. china status?
>>7393486573/4
Did the new patch make vakuu any less of a nigger
>waa waaa chinks are mad how about fix your game
>>739345387GG BOYS, i couldnt find a child of the stars to save my life but we got double beacon
>>739348657rehosting yeahsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241483639363/76561198071365002
>>739348869>mfw 5 wither+2 in hand
>>739348936defectbros...okay I guess we remakesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241483834750/76561198071365002new lobby
>>7393490573/4
>>7393490573/4 btw
>silken tress now has some downsides Good, the most broken starting ancient relic
>>739349825>downsides swapped with Scroll BoxesI should grab scroll boxes more from now on. Early card rewards like that seem better in higher ascensions to make hallway fights easier from the get-go, whereas gold is harder to get and not really worth using to remove a strike most times anymore due to inflation
>>739347650>Howl from Beyond is end of turn nowI'm retarded. Why is this a good thing?
>>739349996It plays itself on the same turn your exhaust itExtra immediate damage, which the Clad likes.
>>739349996You deal damage now instead of later
>>739349996You don't have to take the damage the enemies are doing this turn if you can kill them with it
>>739349937even with "no" downsides scroll boxes is still overwhelmingly likely to give you a trio of garbage while also not removing any of your starter cards. its not really gonna save you much in easy pools and they keep making act 1 easier patch after patch.
lol couldnt find any block besides armanents
New prism killed me. I am turning japanese.I really think so
rough orobas blessings
>corrupted hyperbeam but die because we don't skip elites
>>739350228what changed on the dorito guy?
>>739349996NTA but>enemies don't get their turn off first if it would have been a kill (i.e. attack/debuff [Weaken especially] first before your Howl does its damage or put up Block which Howl has to go through)>don't have to plan ahead for shit like Diadem/Stopwatch>any temp strength effects (Flex Pot, Setup Strike [lol] or something like Coordinate/Knockdown/Flanking in Multiplayer)>works on 1 Vulnerability when it would have previously not benefitted
>>739350287+3 damage every time you play a skill
>>739350308So just Nob thenWow so creative
>>739350340As long as it fucks over silent, who cares
>>739350340yea, but not as bad as the experiment
>>739345685It's called calculated gamble, also avalaible in potion form
>>739350308Honestly should have changed Lizard's Phase 1 gimmick to that shit instead. Pretty much every MP run either steamrolls Test Subject turn 1 or completely dies from full Turn 3, with no inbetween.
>>739350340already getting your shitter copes in before you lose to him?cant wait to hear the crying about new wither too.
>>739345685That’s Stoke
>>739350441I'm an Ironchad mainThe only skill I play is Bloodletting so I can unga harder
>>739350472But what about Rage+?
>>739350492Blocking is for sissies like SHITlent and SHITfect
New beta a10 lobby steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241485818043/76561198045448277
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241485744817/76561197990467016hosting just one (1)
>>7393505603/4
lol I was about to host too. pick one guys
>>739350560>>739350562choices...
alright both already full wtf
>>739348809Their statistics showed that players won against Doormaker more than any other chapter 3 boss.It was quite literally a skill issue on China's part, and their inability to adapt.
I feel like a chump, I was just about to host my own lobby, two anons do exactly that basically at the same time and they both fill up in like 5 seconds and I'm left standing here with my dick in my hand
>>739350562i dont know why i thought i could transform bombardment to play it for free
>>739350562I lied here is one back againsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241486848993/76561197990467016
>>739350560we rehostan?
Skulking Colony is the last elite I'd expect to get constant adjustments. Weird that they keep shifting around his numbers.
>>739344073off model
>>739344942waitaminute that card
hosting a game, don't know if we'll get 4 players but lets just wait for 10 minutes or something:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241487195109/76561198067728446
>>7393520421/4, maybe waiting for half on hour or something instead haha
Ok so Aeonglass is even more overtuned than peak Door no?Lost back to back solid 2P runs, fucker hits as hard as door, blocks for 80, and the withers multiply in number AND damage, even if you minimize cardspam the fucker shuffles in 2 Bad Lucks every 3 turns and upgrades them retroactively
>>739352805It's kind of nice that they got rid of the easiest boss to "appease" chinks and added something harder. Maybe they don't give a fuck about reviews after all.
Strike deck (complete with Soup) with no Hellraiser or Strike Dummy?3 of my 4 Perfected Strike+ have Instinct?Got 2 Pommel Strike+ and 1 unupgraded with Swift?My only block methods are Rage+ and Stone Armor+ (with lategame shop Gorget instabuy)? With maybe Nimble'd but unupgraded Flame Barrier and Shrug It Off and Iron Wave?No energy gen outside of Expect a Fight+ and Bloodletting+?Trying to abuse Unceasing Top but keep getting cucked by Ascender's Bane, or Perfected Strike+ drawn with 0 energy?That Dupe pot I saved for final boss gone to waste because the game deliberately bottomdecked my Cruelty+ so I couldn't DPS unga Aeonglass even with Paper Phrog given right before?Still get Damage Leader for the run even though I'm still turbocucked by the game RNG?Yup, it's an Ironchad runGG lads
>>739350560gg, Queen got raped. Also Whistle + History Course curbstomped Aeonglass whilst we beat the shit out of him
>>739350560gg. we ate elites like snacks.that debilitate is crazy good, you guys played so well.
>>739353115>Strike deck (complete with Soup) with no Hellraiser or Strike Dummy?I like it when you can do an archetype run without incorporating the usual suspect you think you need for it. like having a high block clad run without barricade. I recently had a high block/exhaust deck combo with goopy enchanted blocks, it was awesome
ggs 4 elites act 1 was unexpected
>>739353115GGs boyo, from necrohost who could only transfigure Hang over and over
>>739352042still open, no one joined yet haha. but I'll keep it warm if anyone wants to ha...
>>739353195Soup'd up 0 cost Strikes really helped me get mileage out of Rage+. Rage+ is crucial block gain and I think people don't extol it enough>>739353210Hey you got the Hang DPS kill on Aeonglass before I could finally line up my finishing Perfected Strike that'd have done like 400 damage at least with Instinct + Vuln + double Cruelty + Paper Phrog
>assemble pretty good soul deck with some doom sprinkled>take literally 0 damage throughout most of Act 1 and first half of Act 2>meet new Infected Prism>run is overWow I just love not being able to play my cards. I guess Act 2 is just "avoid all elites" for Necro now, until it gets adjusted.
>>7393520422/4
>>739353231I would join but it's 2am
>>739353247I hecking love nutritious soup even when my deck isn't strike based, just having a bunch if decent damage 0 cost cards is usually pretty nice
>>739352042still 2/4 g-guys, don't come in all at once, there are limited slots
Why turn dorito into gremlin nob when you could just give it energy drain until you attack or plating that it continually grows? It was fun to have a fight that buffs you to fight a (in theory) stronger opponent and its uninteresting for its anti-skill design to just be a raw damage increase.
>>739354575> when you could just give it energy drain until you attack or plating that it continually grows?Because it’s intended to counter skills than attacks
>>7393462481/8 of the time. This is because elites have an additive 12.5% chance to drop a potion and if you rolled not hitting the regular potion chance it increased your chances before checking if you should get the potion from the elite's bonus chance.
>>739354575It feels easier than Nob for me atm since it's in Act 2. But this was a welcomed buff for this elite.
>>739352004Nah.
>>739354614They should have still kept Vital Spark giving you 1 energy on hitting him unblocked, it felt good
>>739344073>>739354667This should be her canon model
>>739343891>supporting the troon agenda>supporting liberals>supporting anitakill yourselves, every single one of you, do it nowthe easiest way is to wait until winter and strip naked outside at night, you feel nice and warm before you die
I'd love to take a time machine and see how the game looks a year from now
>>739354801>advocating for public nudityDegenerate
>>739354759Only that never countered skill heavy decks as they can just play one attack to get that bonus
>>739354865>advocating for public jewrykike
They should partner with Chinese gacha company, write apology to China and release Watcher(made by said gacha company)
>>739343891>unchangedAHAHAHAHAHA *screams into a bag*
>>739344942they're gonna release the Watcher. Remember when people thought they wouldn't add Defect?
>>739355005Why is this 2 cost?
>>739355056So many of Watcher's gimmicks have been distributed amongst the characters and colourless pool already so I'm really curious how they're gonna implement her in this game.
>>739355263You can say the same about Ironclad
>>739355204exhaust your hand is a strong effect for a card that doesn't exhaust itself, though a bit of a slow and rng way to scale.the intangible part isn't actually the focus of the card.
>>739347650zamn, new animation?pretty nice>skulking colony neuteredHow so?It wasn't too tough before imo, just needed to be mindful and take a few block cards... Which I supposed is slightly difficult for Clad
>>739355005They really should make it so that this keeps count and can carry over turns
>>739355376They also made old Stoke. That cost less and drew you cards for each exhausted.
>>739355376Targeted exhaust is clearly not something high priority because this card is not S tier
>>739354943Awooga!
>>739355458Stoke was super busted and that's why they changed it. It's still very good, but it's not going to exhaust down your deck anymore since it makes new cards.Eidolon is definitely a bit too weak currently and honestly should probably just get a rework too. Or reduce the number of cards you need to hit to trigger the intangible or something.
>Fasten has been nerfed from 5 to 4 block
>>739355603The card itself should keep count as to how many cards it exhausted and the counter should persist between turns
>>739355603What I meant is that Anthony completely lost the plot and doesn’t know how to balance cards.Stoke had so much more going for it on character that has dedicated exhaust support Eidolon has everything going against it on character that has zero exhaust support
Sorry I wasn't more help guys I had kind of random high cost cards since the beginning because I wanted to make use of catastrophy and then I went parasol just for the lulz. Bob had a nice barricade deck
>>739352042>3 Ironclad>billions of vul>visiting all available shop>0 Bully/Dominate for everyoneI can't believe our luck is so shitgg nt
>>739352042gg sorry for making you have to watch all that, didn't have enough colossus in the deck to stall hard enough against the queen when she was smacking for 60+ on her multihit
>>739355616>fasten + defend turn 1 is -1 block compare to x2 defendIt’s ogre
>>739355832yeah also this might be obvious but the problem with a pure clad run is that you almost don't get the chance to weaken enemies
>>739355842you did great. you would've kill 2.5 queens if it's not us being so low on HP.
>>739355872x3 clad with Silent or Necro is SO much stronger than x4 clad
>>739355823I believe the intention is to play it with both souls to accelerate draw for 0 cost and the retain commons like reap, sow, and snap that you might have taken early on in the run to also help fill your hand. This is a whole lot of moving parts for a single intangible turn which obviously isn't worth it but I assume that's the intention. So as it is it's better to ignore that part and focus more on the exhaust part.
>made follow through uncommonWhy. Nobody ever picked it anyway. >buffed mummy handWhy. It's already stronger than most ancient rewards.
>>739356263Follow through is actually deleted. New card has completely different name and effect, just same art
I think I realized what I dislike most about Silent's deck-buildingShe can no longer reliably Grand Finale nowChance of getting Runic Pyramid is insanely low and with more cards, the odds you get Well laid Plans is low as well
>>739355415You can kill him in 4 turns instead of 5 now and he doesn't block anymore
Do I host
>>739356561Has to be a change made with Ironclad and Sovereign Blade Regent in mind
speaking about Anthony retarded balancing ideasThere are three common 2 attacks that only deal damageUproarCelestial MightCinderand Perfected StrikeUproar deals 12 damage and plays attack from your deck, weakest attack in your deck is always strike that deals 6, so it's 18 damage that's spread across 3 hitsCelestial Might deals 18 damage in three hitsPerfected Strike deals 18 damage in base deck(if you didn't delete any strike or didn't take large capsule) and can scale fast with upgrade and more strike attacksand then there's Cinderwho the fuck designed this card I have no fucking idea.It used to deal 17 damage, a card with NEGATIVE effect used to deal LESS DAMAGE than BASE 2 cost common. and you can't even cope that "well it's Ironclad card and he has access to vuln so it makes sense why it would deal less damage than similar cards of other characters" PERFECTED STRIKE IS COMMON IRONCLAD CARD WITH 18 DAMAGE BASE.Commons are intended as building block for something betterUproar lets you cheat out attacks...so you can add expensive attacks into your deck, also hits 3+ times so bulck up is strongerCelestial might multihits 3-4 times, so you can pick Vigor cards that opens path to picking Radiate or Dust for one shotPerfected Strike...lets you pick more strikes for massive damage or clone it for one shotThe fuck is Cinder is building toward? There's is nothing that benefits from "random 1 exhaust" and the more non-horseshit cards you add to your deck it becomes progressively worse and worse, it costs 2 so you can't even remove important 2 cost cards from your hand before playing it for RNG not to fuck you over. So you take it only to deal mid act 1 elites if you didn't get any other damage cardsWhoever fucking designed this complete horseshit of a card needs to write 1000 word essay on why the fuck they even thought people will love "Randomly delete your key card for +0 damage"
i feel like very hot cocoa is a very valid speculative pick. even if its kinda bad for you right now, there is so much stuff that synergizes with it. bread, ice cream, royal stamp, cards that upgrade to innate, vakku earrings, choices paradox, big hat, bag of prep, or just taking high cost cards and x cost cards and hoping you draw them turn 1.
you people still play this crap?don't you already have like 1000 hours in it already?
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>>739357183I will always pick something that is 100% good than something that adds a negative in 15% of situations.
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>>739357225shan't play marathon
>>739357014I get annoyed when I see Cinder offered as a card reward. Ironclad doesn't have enough block as it is. Don't want it to exhaust any of my defends.Speaking of common attack cards. Defile is 13(17) with 1 energy. And you will likely play that card, despite it being ethereal because it's too good to lose. And Necro also has vulnerable with Fear ;)
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New Dorito needs to be cranked down just a little bit.Absolutely crushed my balls on what seemed to be a promising Defect run.
>>739356303Oh it's a worse know thy place now that's also uncommon. AKA intimidate you can't upgrade to 2 weak.
>>739357014>Cinder>Drum of battle>Havoc>True GritI appreciate the CHAOS but randomly exhausting your cards is not a winning strategyI think Dark Embrace becoming uncommon again would fix it
>>739357431what? you don't want to instantly die to it if you walk into fight with soul heavy Necro deck?
>>739357431>>739357517agreed, just got raped on necro (souls + big osty) after breezing through everything. dont really enjoy getting skullfucked for simply playing the characters main mechanics
STOP NERFING THE GOOD CARD RELICS AND BONUSESMAKE THE BAD CARDS GOOD INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM IRRELEVANT BUFFSAaaiIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>739357440Why can't Ironclad have Intimidate back? Who cares about the Silent? she already has tons of options to get out of bad situations. I also probably won't take Scare. I'd pick Sucker Punch instead.
>>739357505>I think Dark Embrace becoming uncommon again would fix itMany are saying thisIt's me. I'm many.
>>739357703hi many
Damn Driftwood is bad, you can see the same card twice if you reroll.
>>739357505>>Drum of battledeleted(that version)>True Gritnone plays true grit, people either upgrade in on first fire and just pick true grit+>Havocas 0 cost it's actually interesting card because it plays whatever you exhaust.There's always cost benefit to things. Havoc is very good example, I love Havoc+, it lets you play card right now for free, with cost of removing it.Cinder has NO BENEFITS, it's basic stick with negative effect attached to it. Dark Embrace won't change anything because it's 2 cost piece of shit card
>>739357586Um they buffed Fusion :) shitposting aside, Fusion's actually alot more pickable now, probably the sleeper hit this patch. I think most Defect deck's wouldn't minding the -1 draw/energy to float it for the passive energy gain for a while with any amount of slot gain, especially for stuff like Synchronise/Barrage/Compile Driver.
>>739357757Sorry I'm just mad they absolutely killed silken tress for no good reason.There's a 0% chance I'm clicking on it now and it was my favorite option last patch.
>>739357505Or I have an idea, add a power that's >Whenever a card is exhausted, play it firstIt sounds crazy strong but fun
>>739357795Im sorry but silken tress was absolutely broken relic
>>739357440>>739357617I'm probably the only person itt who likes ScareI've never had a Tracking work at all
>>739357757its not just more pickable, its simply very good. The exhaust is almost a buff imo, I dont think I'll upgrade it in most decks
>>739357749Exactly, the chaotic exhausting stuff either gets removed or people won't play with it
>>739357795That the one that gives cards from other characters? That's already weak, it doesn't need a downside.
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>>739357817It was a gamba highroll option but now it's absolutely unpickable.I've played many runs where I got offered 3 poops with replay and it did nothing.>>739357856It's the one that gave glam 1 to the first reward
>>739357856>That the one that gives cards from other characters?No, that's Kaleidoscope retardSilekn Tress was the first card reward has Glam
>>739357836Havoc+ does get played and it good card overall. But it shows how much benefit you need to attach to a card for random exhaust to be viable. Aka playing card FOR FREE
>>739357874>I've played many runs where I got offered 3 poops with replay and it did nothing.I can't think of non-Ironclad situation when you'll be offered reward that is not good with silken tress
>>739357971Expertise, gamba
>>739357971Defensive options and unimpactful commons are low rolls since you want output on act 1.Ironclad is full of unga, maybe he's still good clicking on that. But are you clicking on that with silent to get slice anticipate and mirage with replay? That'd be 99 sheckels please.Yesterday I played a run with necro and it contained super impactful options like summon or wisp. Wow, thanks. Those will help me kill act 1 elites.
>>739358113Sorry I meant invoke not summon*
>>739357586>make the game easier now!!!!!theres no way youre really complaining about the tiny fasten nerf
>new Prismtold you Silent is getting raped
>>739358113wisp is a pretty easy take with glam, now look for a couple ways to use the energycan also be upgraded to be like radiant pearl at home
quick and comfy A8 lobby for the lulz:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241496868861/76561198067728446
>>739358151Yeah, every single patch should be>good is now worse>bad is still badAnd literally nothing else. Now that's exciting to read after 2 weeks.
>>7393583022/4
>>739358302FULL
>>739358304Imo most of the card changes are pretty justifiable and fusion is actually pickable nowI do think Silken Tress was unjustly gutted like holy shit, but at least scroll box is sort of maybe pickable now?Aeonglass change is probably the most egregious tbf. He hits like a truck, has artifact AND shits out unplayable 3-12 damage status cards? Which still means that defect doesn't give a shit and flak cannon and compact trivializes the boss meanwhile silent is giga fucked now
They're the worst at formatting patch notes. I don't want to see numbers and parentheses and arrows pointing at another set of number and parenthesis. Just post a picture of the old and new version.>Swapped downsides of X with YI don't know what the downsides of X are, because no one picked it or talked about it. Just post what they both do now. And if the reasoning is>That's too much work!We don't need a breakdown of every visual effect changed, just>Updated and fix visuals.
>>739359118Yes, Fusion is now good actually.And yes, Howl from Beyond is slightly less dogshit now but the change won't change the frequency or type of scenarios on which I'm clicking on it (barely) which makes the change pretty irrelevant.Also>Irrelevant 2 energy card now deals 2 extra damageWow thanks.Nice necro changes here too, can't wait to lick on the revised and buffed Death March! Oh, I forgot that I can't play a souls deck now otherwise prism nob will rape and gape my throat. It's not like necro was already bad into act 2 elites because of the centipede faggot.
Isn't it dumb to put Nob in Act 2? He was meant to tell you that frontloaded damage is crucial, but why should Act 2 punish using more skills?
>>739359118>Aeonglass change is probably the most egregious tbf. He hits like a truck, has artifact AND shits out unplayable 3-12 damage status cards? Which still means that defect doesn't give a shit and flak cannon and compact trivializes the boss meanwhile silent is giga fucked nowIf they really want Aeonglass to cuck infinites but be fun they should change the idea.>Aeonglass flips between upright and upsidedown position, based on position cards that you draw this turn have swapped costs (0 becomes 4, 1 becomes 3, 2 stays the same, 3 becomes 1, 4 becomes 0), card values don't swap back until playedor>Aeonglass now has a TICK TOCK, buff, every 24 turns it does 200 damage, every card played reduces this timer by 1. If the timer hits 0 it ends your turn.And if they want to be merciful they make it so it adds a status card to your deck that adds more time to the clock.
>>739359574How the fuck are you dealing 550 damage in less than 24 cards?You have to block his nigger attacks too.
>>739359352I think death march change actually makes it pretty viable even with new prismnob, it's a 1 energy 16 dmg with a single soul and 21 upgraded, pretty worthwhile considering how you want to burst down the prism now. The 2 cost discount cards I have no idea how you can even balance them. Reduce energy and they're broken. give them even more damage and you'll just use them as sticks with extra effects(probably what people are going to use them for tbf) I do think unrelenting is actually good though if you get a single uppercut or bludgeon.
>>739359626I dunno, I play Ironclad so I just watch my strength go to infinity and then kill it with a sword boomerang or conflag
>>739359690It's still a horrible card.You need to>Create souls>Draw said souls>Draw the card on the same hand you're using the souls to drawIf you draw Death March before doing any of that, it's a worthless card.If you go through the whole charade of creating souls, drawing them, and exhausting them and Death March is still on your draw pile you've expended your resources for nothing. It's only playable in soulspam decks (the ones that the prism actively punishes) and those decks can do things many times more outrageous than playing fucking Death March so they're never clicking on it either.Unless they give it reatin or something like that it's never going to work.>The 2 cost discount cardsThose cards are a design pitfall. The defect one is trash incarnate.If you're not clicking on a 2-3 energy power exactly after playing it, you're doing worse than you'd be just playing the power.What are the "upsides" here?>Buffer, Bulk Up, Consuming Shadow, Creative AI, Echo Form, and unupgraded Feral.So the upside for running this horribly overcosted uncommon attack that deals underwhelming damage is "cheating" (you're really only 'gaining' energy on unupgraded creative AI and echo form) one of these 6 powers into play, 4 of them being rares. Literally none of them have immediate output when played except for Consuming Shadow so they do nothing on their own the turn you play them.Kay.The ironclad one is a bit more pickable act 1 because it increases your frontload output which helps you overcome act 1 challenges and elites but it falls off hard in act 2. Levaing snecko aside of course.
>>739358302gg, i accidentally lied about the floor 1 silent shiv build, I thought the other Silent was going something else
>>739358302GG>x2 juggling creates two copies of 100 damage thrash>first copy eats second copy>there's now 200 damage thrash in deck I headbutt on top
>>739358302GG guys, like I said, comfy. I had imbued nightmare. also I always picked peck when it came to that one event but toriqu toughness or whatever it's called isn't as bad as I thought. it's amazing with varmbrace
>>739360013you can snap it or use severance/graveblast/dredge for immediate output. But yeah I get it necro doesn't have enough deck manip in her. Still a lot of output for a single soul though(and is an exceptional silent card lmao). and yeah the 2cost discount are pretty impossible to balance unless you give them another effect
>>739360104I think I decided to go for shivs pretty early on
>>739360013Silent one is good since you're defacto have better dash>14 damage base>if you discount even basic defend it's 14 damage + 5 block>if you discount anything better it's 14 damage + ~9+ block + other effect
Unmovable or thrash as Act 1 reward here?
>>739360324Unmovable is great but you have vambrace, bloodwall and second wind. meanwhile no scaling damage, so I would pick thrash
>>739360289I would only pick it if I was beyond desperate for damage. The second I see something like a measely deadly poison I'm never clicking on Pounce for the rest of the run.
I love spamming card creationI love having infinite damage and block
>>739360383all of them are desperation damage picks, Unrelenting is even worse since you're discounting damage card it only works in act 1 as it should be enough to kill mid tier enemy. In act 2 it does nothing
did infested prism need this kind of buff? tainted is a bit annoying
>>739360807I don't mind the tainted (for now) but what happened to the old >get 1 energy back for first attackthingWhy was it replacedSurely it would be a balance if it had both no?
>>739360875The numbers got pulled back a bit, I think it's like 1 skill before it returns back to its original numbers and 2 pushes it over. Barring Pulsate which is more psychotic because of it buffing the Tainted + attacking during the same turn when it used to just block.
It would be stupid to add a second Hidden Gem to my 16 card deck, right?
>>739360807>did infested prism need this kind of buff?skill heavy deck needed a nerf. But it might be a bit too much of a nerf
It's kind of funny that the more they nerf Silent via enemy reworks the stronger Necro becomes as she has much more accessible energy gain and big damage solutions.
I thought I had a good deck (destroyed all Act 3 elites), then I met the new Aeonglass.Good time for a two-week break, I guess.
>First time I've gotten clone in 50 runs>Every single path in Act two has 5 normal combats before the first rest siteThey'll do anything to make sure you have no fun
>>739344073>New: STRIPPERFuck yeah
>>739362052> New: STRIPPERSilent is already in the game
>>7393619925-6 combats in a row on 1-2 paths is strangely common
fun run, I went unga bunga and raised my HP at any chance I had. also end of days is god tier
>>739362161The path generator is fucked. I shouldn't see 4 paths with 5 fights and one path with 4 fights and 1 event (it's a fight) before any fires.
>>739360807100% yes, old one was basically a damage sponge like the eyeball in Act 3New one actually forces you to engage with the mechanics and build a deck that can deal with it
>>739343891How's the patch, is dorito man over tuned?
>>739344073>no futadropped
>>739344073>>739354667>>739354943>>739355565The watcher appreciation fills me with joy. Even if it's just an excuse to post her massive offmodel boobage.Just give her back.
>>739363071Fuck off with your coomer slop, no one who actually played StS1 wants Watcher back. What an awful character... She was braindead op in the most boring way possible thanks to more than half of her cards being unplayable garbage in comparison to her good stuff
>>739363685>t. mad there's no futa
>>739363685I want watcher back, with half the powerlevel and triple the breast size
I've never beaten A0 with Watcher, I found her too difficult. I never understood why people thought she was the most OP.
>>739363916she had 3 card infinite, one of which was starting card and two uncommons
>>739363916She's just a math character, you spent turns setting up double damage and jumping back out of it. She was leaps and bounds above the other chars because of it.I thought she was fun, don't know why she gets so much hate in a fucking singleplayer game of all things. Simply don't use her.
I just left my negative review for the patch and its time to explore it with some multiplayer. Get to hosting
>>739347650>Howl from Beyond is end of turn now>Ironcladbros we can't stop winning !Overall it's better, but damn the first IC run I get the music box and I'm just crying knowing it doesn't work that way anymore.
>>739364631I still think the card is shit, Iron clad doesn't have reliable exhaust most the time so once I exhaust it once I either want it to be like Bombard where it self exhausts on play or just never come back to my hand because it mostly feels like a curse.
>>739363685I want the watcher back.>muh rushdown infinite that would obviously get neutered on sts2Any other complaints or are you just parroting your favorite e celeb opinion?
>>739364692You are like a little baby...
>>739365029Hey, if I amount the time in all my savefiles and consoles it probably gets up to the 600hs, but nowhere near as close as 1.2k. What a monster.
>>739365087>1.2kI can't read (as a proper card game enjoyer), that's 2k. Wowie.
>>739343891uh oh
i say host you fuckass whiteboys
people who exclusively play multiplayer are playing a different game and have a warped perception on the actual difficulty and balance of the game, and should shut the fuck up.
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>>739365616thats a weird way to admit you cant win consistently at a10
>>73936570399% of people cant win consistently at ascension 10.
>>739363979she gets hated on because every run with her is the exact same
>>739365832Oh! Sorry! You know there's a solution to that right? Simply don't use her!
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>>7393661103/4 Need one more to absolutely annihilate the spire
>>739366068shut the fuck up bro
>>739364563sex with vanilla ice and Kars
>>739366068sybau
>>739367440>sybau
got an hour, any up for a lobby
>>739367664Got a hearty chuckle out of me, anon
>>739362157She stripdance?
>>739367919
>>739357795Losing all gold is too big of a downside. It needs to be stronger.
as expected, duplicating my deck was a mistake, didnt draw any block whatsoever.
>>739357739Driftwood is awful. What were they thinking giving a shittier version of prayer wheel as an ancient reward?
i find it so absurd that a single glow got me the bad luck out of 50 cards to get me in just enough life total to get killed by the experiment. Whatever
>>739357225300
we couldn't kill Lizard in two turns so deserved. On the other hand having 5 strikes out of 35 cards and drawing nothing but billion strikes every 2st and 2nd turn is absolute horseshit
>>739368504if p1 died there i could have soloed the rest but someone killed me with reflect up
Silent's negroness is so broken not even the anti silent hourglass can stop her.
>>7393546181 extra potion can make such a huge difference snowballing. I bet my winrate goes down more from that change than any card nerf or enemy buff from this patch.
>>739364670It suffers from the Sly problem of being overpriced in exchange for being easily cheatable, except it's not that easily cheatable with less access to exhaust than Silent has to Discard.Problem: 2cost 16(21) AoE. Is just super efficient even without doing the exhaust to cheat it in.3cost means it's unplayable unless you cheat it in.Feels like it'd need a damage buff to be bad but considerable at 3cost still, like 3cost: 20(24) so an upgraded version even hardcast can solve some 1st level fights.
>>739345117How much do you think he's getting paid?
>>739368603can you explain the changes to aeonglass in detail? i haven't had a chance to fight the new version yet. Sounds like his statuses are way more dangerous now. Is that the main difference?
When are they going to denegrify the silent?
>>739366068Or they could just not include her and make a fun character I'd want to play instead. Now kill yourself.
>>739366110Spire absolutely destroyed. Architects anus BTFO.SAD!
>>739368849You need a time machine to go back to when they first designed her over a decade ago.
>>739366110>Chekhov's gun is a narrative principle emphasizing that every element in a story be necessary, while irrelevant elements should be removed.Also it's insane that I never saw a single Debilitate that entire run
>>739368891>Now kill yourself.Not yet.
>>739368721There's an even bigger problem for a card like that.Your starting deck has no (nothing) (zero) (nada) of exhaust synergy. If you see that card floor 1 you have to ignore it. You cannot click on it.You can click on one sly card if it's your first pick because at least it can work sometimes with your existing discard outlet AND you can lean into that synergy for future picks. But there's a 0% chance you're clicking on howl from beyond unless you already have at least two cards that say "exhaust a card" on your deck which is almost never.>>739368846Sure.Attack pattern felt the same i think. Numbers overall are very similar or untouched.Now he puts a wither in your hand every 6 cards you play (not 4). Status no longer have retain and you can't play to exhaust them (so they'll be discarded at the end of the turn).Wither deals 3 damage at the end of your turn. And every 3 turns he buffs str and makes ALL the withers deal 3 more damage. So they will deal 3 at first, then 6, then 9, etc. Think of the StS1 hexagost burns.I didn't see the nigger prism because I avoided the third elite (and thank god because my deck was skill heavy) so I can't talk about how it felt playing him. But it sounds scary.
>>739369039Back to the bottom with you Ironclad.
>>739369156The solution is turning that 5th strike Ironclad starts with into >Lash Out 1cost: Deal 8 (13) Damage. Exhaust a Card. Or some shit.
>>739369034Thanks to that knockdown we never needed it. I just hope all of that energy I was feeding everyone went to good use. At that last fight I got replay 3 on Echo form off the bat and did awful things to my deck as a result, still a run to remember.
>>739369276I would love for exhaust synergies to be a bit easier to lean into, it was my favorite thing to do on sts1 and dark embarece at rare crushes my soul.
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>>739369156Thanks anon. Those sound like good changes overall. I didn't like the statuses retaining. It just turned into a sort of a card advantage for silent and made compact trivialize him on defect. Compact won't be as reliable of an instant win since you'll need to draw it at the same time. He can still flak cannon them all away but that's not nearly as silly as consistently turning your whole hand of statuses into draw and energy was.
>>7393694022/4
>>739369317that energy helped bigly, thanks
>>739369484Yeah compact just deleted it, it was ridiculous. The fight has definitely moved on a different direction, and feels overall a bit more difficult, while being slightly less frustratings for the instances where you can't reliably deal with the hand clog. There's room for bursting it down and tanking damage with your face if you're fast enough without wasting your time playing the withers. Some decks will do better against it, some will do worse.I'll say that my deck was very strong and destroyed the queen taking 0 damage yet I still had to take a hit to the aeonglass. But it was an extremely skill intensive deck. Perhaps It would've fared even worse against the experiment but I don't know. Just played once so I can't tell how it broadly feels yet.
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>>7393699262/4
>>739344073>The Buxom
>>7393700092/4
>>739346128Or just have the damage cap carry over so you don't waste 4 turns blocking his gay ass attacks
Bully is one of the coolest clad cards and doesn’t get enough respect
>>739370950It's not that good. It's a conditional multihit that doesn't scale with strength. Any multihit of 3+ would still hit 100+ but be better against multiple enemies when they aren't all vuln stacked. Bully does seem extra good in multiplayer though since everyone spams debuffs.
>>739369039i hate this worthlees card. They need to just give ironclad the Self-Repair card from StS1
>>739371386I never pick it yeah. It doesn't really solve the problem clad had. When they changed collossus to uncommon it helped clad so much since he only has 1 weak card now and that was his biggest issue.>>739371261Wrong. The advantage of bully is it's a 0 card cost you can keep drawing into and doing massive damage if you've stacked vuln which is what you should be doing. Vicious, bully, burning pact etc and it only gets better when you have multiple bully's
Favourite ancient?
>>739371625my nigga oroboros or w/e his rainbow trans flag ass name is
>>739371386It's way better than self repair because ironclad has so many ways to turn HP into other resources.
>>739371490You can disagree but nothing I said was "wrong". It scales nearly identically to a multihit except off vuln instead of strength. I have a higher winrate on ironclad than you so no idea why you are giving me unsolicited advice.
>>739371775lel thin skinned faggot>muh higher winrate>unsolicited adviceirl karen
>>739371775faggotyou sound like jorbs
>>739371934Wrong. Yikes.
>>739371775>but nothing I said was "wrong">"It's not that good."Once you pulled the win rate card without knowing mine or being asked, I'm not even bothering anymore.
>>739371972You would know since you watch him.
>>739372024Wrong. It's not that good.
>Get all attack rewards on Underdocks>Get all defend rewards on OvergrowthCool, cool.
The duality of homosexuals.
>>739372030okay jorbs
>>739372274brah they literally made sure to give vulnerable other effects with different cards like drawing or receiving less damage so applying it is good even if you stack more thany ou need.And Bully and Dominate don't only greatly benefit from it, they can get absolutely broken and make your run if you manage to stack a shit ton of vul
What the fuck am I supposed to do against the prism now when I'm playing silent
>>739369402God damn it I was conversing with someone on the side and I didn't even notice when Silent diedI have no excuses for how I played alot of the run, but I think even if we had played better... we lost because of our act 2 pathingI understand why we chose that pathing. Because Prism is a nightmare now for some decksBut we still should have faced atleast one Elite. We had too many dead floorst. Regent
What do you think, should I add this upgraded Sunder? I have removed all strikes. I feel like it might be too greedy.
>>739372875>singleplayerMore reasonable to expect to kill with it
>>739372875Worst opening hand is what...Claw, Claw, Meteor Strike, Hatchet?Then the Uproar does nothing so... I think picking a Sunder is good here
>>739372274Why the fuck did jorb choose to focus on the 5-7 vul instead of the 20-30 damage part?30 damage for 1 energy with 0 setup is the selling point, Vul is just the bonus. Break with 3 Vul would still be great.Baarlor is straight to the fucking point. it's 30 damage for 1 energy, play it.
>>739369926GG
>>739372943>>739372992
>>739373117Powerful
>>739373139Okay, things are getting too blessed for me.
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>>739373361isn't working for me
>>739373452Retryingsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241528906214/76561198043831607
>>739372274>>if you're making it Vulnerable isn't the point to kill it quickly>30 damage for 1 energy (assuming you don't have any prior Vuln because le draw order)>also literally any Dominate proc after a Break just completely solves damage for the fight
>>7393734682/4
I dont like this new Dorito. Any nerf to my skillbased decks i heavily dislike
>>739372274hitler vs jesus
Jesus fucking christ. Withers are retained if you have runic pyramid or play retain effects which is retarded. Just got hit for 48 in a single turn cause my hand had 5 wither+3. The boss also just hits like a truck definitely overtuned for now
>>739371775
>>739373840they stay in your hand after damaging you? I thought they'd fuck off like burns
really fun run. 3 bludgeon debilitate mayhem and stampede together rocks
>>739374024unrelenting is also a great card idc what anyone says
>>739372274I am pretty sure Jobbers wrote his post before the card was changed to 1 energy and didn't bother rewriting it.
>>739373920Yeah convergence and presumably runic pyramid applies to wither. I don't think pyramid is pickable in the current state right now cause of this.That damage is against broken as fuck run too...Also turns out minion cards don't proc drum of battle but that makes sense
>>739374214That sounds unintended, you should F2.
>NOOO STOP NERFING ONLY BUFF!!!>AIIEEEE THIS ENEMY REWORK MAKES SILENT BAD!!!!!!! (it doesn't and silent is still best and most braindead character)>NOOO STOP ADDING INTERESTING BOSS MECHANICS THAT MAKE ME HAVE TO DECKBUILD!!!!! YOURE REDUCING MY PLAYER EXPRESSION!!! LET ME JUST DAMAGE RACE EVERYTHING AFTER PICKING THREE CARDS EVERY TIME!!!!
>>739372529Wraith fo-oh wait
>>739374397forgot to put at the end:if you are one of the people who say these things then this game isn't for you. or you should only be playing on a0
THEY DESTROYED HOURGLASS EIDOLON SYNERGY. MY BEST COMBO IS GONE HOW IM I SUPPOSED TO ABUSE EIDOLON WHILE ITS STILL IN THE GAME AS AN AWESOME DESIGN CHOICE NOW?
>>739374214Also 17 dmg against prism with a deck that counters it. I like the fight overall but the numbers are definitely overtuned. Right now its probably guaranteed 20-50 for mediocre silent runs since she doesn't have a lot of dense block cards and her damage output is mediocre
>>739374397Every single elite and boss that isn't the skulking colony is a damage race.
>>739372274Lmao
>>739345117>howl from beyondBasically gave it Sly but for exhaust. I dig it. Card was butts before. >buffed mummified hand Cool I guess? I felt like this relic was already breddy gud.
>every skill played reduce players current block by 3Here, made “fuck silent” elite effect that doesn’t fuck over everyone else
>>739373840>Withers are retained if you have runic pyramid or play retain effects which is retarded.???Why wouldn't they be?
>>739375247Normally statuses that deal damage discard otherwise runic would be most useless piece of shit ever
>>739374736yes nearly every enemy scales and requires you to do some form of damage but things like the phrog parasite, decimillipede, new dorito, new wither, etc. require you to take different cards to beat them quickly and not die at the same time.
idk why they made infested prism and dorito stronger but then made skulking colony even more irrelevant and let you just dps him in four turns before he does anything.
Silent is slowly being pushed into the direction of Necro where massive burst damage is better than infinite block. Also Jeweled Mask value keeps increasing with each patch, like this latest major nerf to Sealed Throne.
>>739375406Prism was maybe the weakest elite in the game and actively helped you beat him Skulking Colony was largely hit because he disproportionately hit Ironclad really hard. Which, maybe they should have let be
>>739375406Because they deleted Ironclad block cards
>>739375207I think this would only help necro? Regent best block cards are dense as fuck, Defect has accessible non skill block engine and Ironclad just kills the thing.
>New Aeonglass costs me 60 fucking health>Phase 1 test subject almost kills me during set-upMan what a cunty pair of bosses to get.
>>739345117>Regent>Changed Sealed Throne card: upgrade changed from Innate -> lowering Energy cost by 1Oh okay so they made it dogshit for no reason.
>>739376128That’s the point. Current Prism counter Necro far too much just because they tried to reign in Silent. You need a pinpoint accuracy effect that doesn’t destroy Necro while trying to make silent fair
lit
Horrible HORRIBLE RUNI accomplished NOTHING that whole runFirst Glam reward was Pull From Below so I tried to do some epic Ethereal runNONOT A SINGLE GOOD THING TO BE HADI HAD TO SIT THERE AND WATCH THE OTHER THREE GUYS CARRYAND THE OTHER NECRO HAD A BETTER AND STRONGER PULL FROM BELOW THAN MINE AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHYFUCKING TRASH RUN I FUCKING SWEAR
>>739376548Necro has dense Block cards, no? It's Silent who has smaller Block cards that rely on spamming outside of Leg Sweep? Also Necro has more dense Block Powers.
>>739376609kekI had corrupted PfB and Mystic Lighter with double lethality.
>>739373468GG, propably first time I had a Regin run with barely any star stuff and all strength. I did some good damage but Clad definetly dealt thte most
>>739376695Necro has souls, which Prism turns into curses.
>>739376609>>739376723>>739376747>>739373468GGSometimes the Spire just be like that mangMy Neow relic was Leafy Poultice ->Hellraiser and StokeI was so confused, I didn't even think such a high roll was possibleI don't even have to explain, you guys watched the Queen fight
>>739376548god you people are so bad at this game. necro does fine against nob-like mechanics. test subject has been in the game forever already. necro has access to dense high damage cards and danse makes dense block way more pickable too.
>>739376846then don't spam souls in infested prism then retard?
>>739372274Jorbs can't be this retarded. He's just pretending right?
>>739376609If I don’t get any good combo on Necro I just default to support bitch. Works like a charm
>>739376878>I don't even have to explain, you guys watched the Queen fightyeah, ridic>when is Clad's turn going to end
>>739376450Sealed Throne was the strongest card in the fucking game (for Regent).The change was necessary to make it no longer completely overwhelm all other choices.
>>739353270It's honestly kind of impressive how they are trying to make elites into 'avoid at all costs' instead of a risk/reward. Especially when the reward is a dogshit relic that gives +1 dexterity and you're playing Ironclad.
Stone sword should be 4 or maybe 3 elites. 5 just feels awful.
>>739376882A lot of people only play Necro by picking every block card and slowly chipping the enemy down or build up Doom They don't really know how to branch in to more proactive necrobinder playstyles and just accept getting hit for 50 by first phase test subject/maybe dying to giga cultist
>>739376969But they nerfed Debilitate for multiplayer>>739376980>tfw go from PLEASE LET HIS TURN END to KEEP GOING KEEP GOING
>>7393771093 str is huge, 3 would be too easy. I could maybe see 4 but a lot of players are pathing into 5 or more elites anyways.
>>739376609pull from below is such a sad card if i ever take it or transform into i still continue to draft cards like i have no boss damage at all and will look for any solution that isn't pull from below. it just needs you to play such a crazy amount of ethereals really fast to actually do anything and you don't want to be taking most common ethereals that aren't defy and powers like friendship that let you play more ethereals make pull even more terrible.
>>739376943>game gives strong soul engine as main damage >meet prism>dieHow could I forget, just change half your deck on act 2 for one fight
>>739376997I've seen it once in 380 hours of gameplay so I guess I'll never play with it again.
>>739377124> But they nerfed Debilitate for multiplayerJust dredge it/grave blast it, I used to not even upgrade it because 3 turns was enough to keep it always on
>>739377197>"strong">losesmany such cases
>>739377282If you're gonna talk shit, take the seed and win.Otherwise shove the tongue up your ass.
>>739377156make it 2 str then, im rarely hitting 5 elites after i get the event unless i have a god run
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>>739376882How many times did you beat new prism on Necro, again?
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>>739353270I didn't read patch notes and my doom deck got bodied as well
NOOOO MEGACRIT MY GRORIOUS 25 CARD LOOPING SOUL DECK IS NOT WINNING EVERY RUN I AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA ARE NOW GOING TO REVIEW BOMB YOUR GAME
>>739377197The time eater paradox.
>>739371625Orobas since he only has good relics, including the super busted and extremely fun Rainbow Prism. Yes, I love getting Plasma orb generation on the Regent.
>>739377630>Orobassamemost fun relics by far
>>739373840>Otherwise god-tier relics are actually detrimental against the new bossIncredible.
>>739377568Don’t you know? You’re not allowed to play:souls, osty, doom decks past act 1
>>739377197A strong soul engine will give you hauntIf you're not confident in your decks ability to race Prism, you should probably path away from Elites unless you want to take the 1/3rd chance you run in to Prism
>>739377187What ethereals can you even spam for it?
thank god necro only got more nerfs. i was afraid next time they touch the character they'll gigabuff her like regent and ironclad because i still see the sentiment a lot that necro is bad somehow.
>>739376997Oh no, an Ancient gives you an extremely good card!Guess it's gonna go into the pile of 'literally never take this shit' like so many other cards now.
>>739371625Nonupeipe for meHas never missed a single time, and in the event she misses you get +30 max hp
>>739377780Nonu is just broken overpowered generally.
oh come on!!!do you guys pick the map or is it bait that fills up the hand?
>>7393775292/4 get the fuck in here
>>739377682>Start with potion pocket from Neow>Get to Orobas>Gives me 4 more potion slots>Get to the fat bitch>Gives me the palm frondUNLIMITED POTIONSUNLIMITED POWERRRRRRRRRRRR
jorbs? nah that gay raped bitch ain't for me
>>739377841Bro just pass around that elite
>>739377603This but Anita.
>>739377841600 free gold is the most busted shit ever
>>739377841The map is a guaranteed 600 gold, it's stupid to turn it down.>>739377197Yeah they didn't need to make Gremlin Nob But You Can't DPS Race Him Because He Has 300 HP.
I struggle with Ironclad on A10... I can easily beat the first of the last 2 bosses, so basically A9 is fine, but man if i don't have any way to heal i'm fuckedEspecially on decks with self harm, i just cant do itBasically all my A10 wins have been with Stoke or Hellraiser
>>739377931>Get 600 gold from spoils map>Get 999 gold from obese ancient>Every shop is always shit after>Have only 24 gold>Get best shop everEvery single fucking time.
>>7393775293/4
>>739377841btw i ended up winning this run in 25 minutes and a fuckload of relics
>>739377983im on a8 do you guys mind
>>739377952Said it before, I'll say it again:They should create a new Ancient and this Ancient's "supercard" should be Reaper for Ironclad. Like how Darv's Forgotten Tome is Corruption
>>739378063just edit that shit to a10
>>739377974I had a run with some friends last night where I took the rare card start from Neow, playing as Regent.It was Royalties. By the time we made it to the first shop, I had like 700 gold, and the Courier, so I just bought out most of the good relics and colorless cards in the shop.I got the Fysh after that, and then before the final shop of the act, we got the 'duplicate your entire deck' mirror, so I went into the shop with close to 2000 gold and multiple copies of Beacon of Hope.
>>739377742Defy, Enfeebling Touch and Parse mainly.But then you also have Sentry Mode and Call of the Void. If you can get one of those and/or a Ghost Seed it can really take off.
>>739378063Console command to a10 right now
>>739377682>>739377947>Gremlin Nob But You Can't DPS Race HimGremlin Nob retains his strength over turns, Prism resets his damage every turn. So if you have a big efficient block card or a strength down effect you can block himAlso it really isn't that crazy to damage race Prism, Ironclad, Defect and Regent can just kill him Silent and Necrobinder have to draft more damage than they did in the past but you can still kill Prism pretty quick if you prepare for it Honestly this is still nowhere near as hard as the STS1 act 2 elites. Gremlin Leader would just straight kill you from full if you didn't have a bunch of AOE
is a defense build on IC still doable in sts2?
>>739378190Yes, but not nearly as common. I had Unmovable with a bunch of blood wall+ with barricade. Really fun. But it basically means you need 2 rares and rares are not as common place spire 1. At least it feels that way to me.
>>739378190Barricade IC is pretty much dead in the water.
>>739378063unlock console -> type "unlock all"
>>739378281ok thanks
>>739377529Still 3/4. Need one more slayer
>>739378190i won A1 before they removed that attack that dealt 5 damage every time you gained shieldthat card + juggernaut + Iron Wave and i won easy as shitWHY DID THEY REMOVE IT REEEEEEEE
>>739378437*A10
>>739375183Howl is not good. There are too few cards that directly target it to exhaust. True Grit+, Brand (Rare), Fiend Fire (Rare), Stoke (Rare), Purity (Colorless). Feel No Pain? skills only. Havoc? not happening.Also, why would you ever take Howl, when this card exists?
>>739378437I think you may be bad at the game man
>>739378516>Also, why would you ever take Howl, when this card exists?Because you're not always going to get Pact's End and sometimes you need AoE or you die to Phrog Parasite
I dunno if this is the best Neow reward, but it sure feels that way when you get lucky. Even copied the card with mirror.
>>739378613It got nerfed for a reason.
>>739378584you have Breakthrough, Whirlwind, Stomp, Omnislice or Dramatic Entrance at the shop
>insatiable punishes you for having a big deck>aeonglass punishes you for having a small deckokay what the fuck do you want me to do then you stupid fucking devs
>>739378613after the nerf, nobody's gonna pick it ever againlosing all gold for a potential brick just killed the relic
>>739378883have a medium deck
>>739378526?
>>739378883A deck that can go either way ;)
>>739379083that's the worst of both worlds, you don't get the proper aeonglass protection and you can still get fucked by bad draws
>>739379135have a good medium deck
>>739379206>just get a lucky draftbrilliant
Buy an ad Anita
>one bad draw on iroclad on act 1>lose gamemore punishing than leaving the first double slugs with 39hpno character is punished this much for a bad draw before you're even able to mitigate bad draws
>just path around all elites in act 2>just don't pick 2/3rd of Necro cards just incase it kills you when you go against one eliteHow about I call on all China to review bomb it again until they nerf Prism, how about that?
>>739379264Apply for janny, tranny
Current power ranking: Defect > Necro > Ironclad >= Silent > Regent
This 2 week update cycle sucks. Now if I want to play with the good new stuff I have to eat shit against the obvious bullshit that will get reverted or toned down. Infested prism's current design is stupid and it's hard to believe some retard approved of it. It's mathematically impossible to block the damage with the majority of characters and builds. Do you really need the data to see the obvious result that everyone will take 50 damage to it
You know what I blame Anita for? The phobia mode. I know this is mean and irrational but I have to laugh at people that are so scared of bugs and worms that they can't play this game. Like the new patch phobia mode makes it so the shell with holes in it doesn't have holes in it anymore, because some players are such pussies that they're scared of holes. It's called trypophobia. I'd bet you anything THAT'S what the wonderful Mrs (self married) Sarkeesian contributed to the game. The fucking phobia mode. "I can't handle the legs on the haunted ship" give me a fucking break it's a lobster you pussy.I'd have more respect for a colorblind mode maybe
>>739379297Negative review stays Anita
>>739378883Every character has ways to exhaust / discard status cards, I never felt that the gimmick of the boss was the issue, but required to have +30 block every single time it attacks. Insatiable is incredibly squishy, If you can't kill it before turn ~8, you're not going to survive third act.
>>739379383What makes it worse is that the devs are afraid to experiment.. We're in a beta and they do mild shit and nerfs?
>>739373864>still seethingGo back to watching jorbs
>>739378883>>insatiable punishes you for having a big deck>>aeonglass punishes you for having a small deckBoth of these can be solved by just doing a lot of damageInsatiable's count down only matters if it reaches 0, if you draft a deck with a high output you can just kill him before you die. Or you can add a bunch of draw to your deck and try to consistently hit the escapes. Both ideas work.You can beat Aeonglass by just having a lot of bulk to drown out the status cards but you can also have access to deck fixing, discard outlets, etc, or you can just fucking kill himOne thing you learn when you improve at the game is that Small deck vs Large deck is really over blown. The most important thing is for the deck to be functional. How you do that is context based I have won runs with only like 12 cards, I have won runs with a 40 card deck, sometimes the idea is to exhaust down all your cards to make a loop, sometimes the idea is to find ways to retain your hand so you always have what you need when you need it, sometimes the idea is to just pick a bunch of powers and outscale etc. Experiment with your macro strategies. You'll probably be shocked by what you can get away with
>>739372274>let's see what a fag and jew have to say about these cardsgrim
>>739379529quite literally are experimenting with the dorito and everyone is losing their shit
does anyone think the grelim nob status shouldve gone to the act 3 eye elite, that guy literally does nothing beside attack every turn, which is insufferable
>>739379646Because it takes 5 seconds to look at what they did to him and decide it's retarded. It's the first time I've questioned how stupid the the devs are. Are they actually incapable of balancing things without play data? They can't just do the math on the idea and decide that it's fucking retarded?
I might be a bit biased but I think Regent is probably the strongest char in the game right now?He was pretty toptier beforehand but I think Silent and Necro were better. Now they added massive counters to both and Regent almost only received buffs.
>>739379779I don't know man I just kill the guyYou're having a very strong reaction to what is a pretty simple enemy.
>>739379875what decks, what characters, what asc?
>>739379707I feel like that's most enemies in 2.
A lot of STS2 players would be completely mind broken if they had to fight Book of Stabbing or Gremlin Leader lolThey added one fast scaling elite to the game and it's induced full meltdown
>>739379875You sound like a stupid faggot.
>>739379959>Book of Stabbing"What do you mean he just keeps attacking for more and more over and over? And if he hits me I get a status in my deck!? What the hell man"
>>739379959I just see anons rightfully calling the changes retarded. Meltdowns only happened with the review bombing shit.
>>739379959>inferno -> breakthroughGremlin Leader in sts 2 would be complete joke
>>739378906>potential brickyou're unfathomably unlikely to not get at least one card that BECOMES decent with a double play in your first card reward.
>mfw its one of those days where every question mark on the map is an enemysome times you just have to stop playing
>>739380209type of run where you get juzu bracelet in the end of act3
>>739380257>courier last eliteowari da
>>739380209Juzu Bracelet should be built in. They should also add more events. Events are fun, regular combats are gay.
>>739380127It's more character dependent than anythingRegent doesn't really want Tress anymore because Regent is very picky about the cards he adds to his deck, for example Defect probably still likes it though, because Defect can make a lot of things work
>>739380257type of run where you're cock deep in a self damage build on IronClad and then you find Tungsten so you're not gaining strength or exploding anymore
HEY YOURE NOT MAKING IT OUT OF ACT 2 EVER AGAIN. BUFF BUFF BUFF THESE ELITES HAHAHA SLOP TIME. YOU WILL LOVE THIS SLOP AND LEAVE A POSITIVE REVIEW YES YOU WILL SLOPPER. BUFF EVERY ELITE BUFF CENTIPEDES NOW YOU JUST DIE IF YOU ENTER THE FIGHT ONLY LIZARD TAIL GIVES YOU A CHANCE YAY I LOVE BUFFSLOP
>>739380326that feeling when youre 3hp with no potions and the random event before the campfire is a combat
>>739380326is there even reason why you can encounter fights in ?If I wanted a fight I'd path into fight, I went to ? to check out events
>>739380423Risk/reward
>oh fuck tress just took all of my gold>better avoid this shop and pick the question mark here>lmao happened 2 times today, abandoned the run
>>739380564every event already has risk reward. Once again: If I wanted a fight I'd path into fight
>>739380639Most events are net positive in 2. This isn't spire 1
>>739380564>Risk/rewardthat already happens in the (?) spots because 3/4 of the events are risks lmaooh enjoy this garbage obligatory card or lose some gold for steaming shit
>>739380418
>>739380423So that player won't be able to skip 70% of the act by pathing pure events.
>>739380804what's wrong with that? You gain gold and cards in fights. If I think my deck is good enough to not need more cards to beat bosses I should be able to path around mandatory 6 fights in a row
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>>739380734literally not true what. compare the events from 2 to the ones from 1 and youll see what an actual risk is
>>739380932Well the game wants to check your deck against quick fights and also so that you won't reach boss at full hp while using all camps for upgrades.and well the chance for fights starts at 10% and increases for every event and decreases for every fight instead of event.
>patch comes out>endless histrionic seething>people play for a couple of days and figure out it's not so bad, just an update to some strategiesWhy are zilennials so fragile?
>>739381289No one is being histrionic except you.
jorobas
>>739381394i raffed
bros... i love Cascade... i want to kiss and make love with that card
>>739381514make love to jorbs instead
>>739381541jorbs would do some autist shit like tell you about how he can get effectively the same stimulation from masturbating alone anyways when you ask him if it was good
>>739381514for me....it's Anita
>>739381394I look like this
WHERES MY +1 ENERGY ON ATTACK YOU MEGACRITIAN BOZOS? I HAD ONE JOY IN ACT 2 AND YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME? FUCK YOU NEGATIVE REVIEWING AS WE FUCKING SPEAK YOU FUCKS
this game is crippled by its retarded playerbase that won't let the devs add anything interesting and beg and beg for the devs to make the game easy.
>>739381794quite the opposite, it's crippled by the devs constantly bending the knee to e-celebs complaining the game is too easythe devs bending the knee to the chinese was an anomaly
>>739381794The whinging retards seem like a vocal minority, devs still are taking risks like the infested prism rework, so I'm not worried. These fags pretending their reviews weren't already negative aren't fooling anybody.
>>739381973a10 is an optional hardmode. If you're too much of a shitter to enjoy it, play an easier difficulty.
>>739381993i logged into my brothers account just to leave another negative review shillgoyim. fuck yourself you ballsucking spirecuck
>>739382052Say what you want faggot, I play on A10 and my winrate is above 60% doesn't change the fact that I'm right.
>>739377529>steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241536633905/76561198045448277crazy Doom game
>>739382093
>>739382093I believe you :)
ggs, suspicious act 1 and 2 but we pulled it off
>>739382052Anon is right. The entire reason A16-A20 exists in Spire 1 was mostly because of Jorbs complaining to the devs directly that A15 was too easy.
>>739382274>devs added more content that I don't have to play>this negatively effects my experience!
>>739381289>>739381774>>739380418samefag
>>739382132i believe you
time to leave negative review
>>739382338>anon loves letting e-celebs dictate the state of a game
>>739382482I'm doing my part!260 hours btw.
>>739382482NOOOOOOOO DONT DO THIS MAN BRO PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. WE MADE ACT 2 EVEN MORE INSUFFERABLE JUST TO CHALLENGE YOU MORE WE EVEN NERFED THIS GOOD STARTING RELIC PLEASE RECONSIDER NOW ALL 3 OF YOUR NEOW OPTION CAN BE TERRIBLE GARBAGE. PLEASE PLEASE THINK OF THE DEVS BRO
>>739382573samelet me refund if you want me to stop playing and complaining
>>739382573>>739382482
Even less gold ? Silkchads?
>>739382697jorbs demanded the nerf
>>739382629280 hours and still sucks at the game wow
>>739381993>The whinging retards seem like a vocal minority???
>>739382785post winrate
>>739382785can't do anything about my brain
>>739382837hey i never said i was good
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IF YOU HAVE TIME TO SHITPOST, YOU HAVE TIME TO HOST A LOBBY AND PLAY THE GAME
>>739383042>even less good starting optionsi think not
I think Mega Crit will do something that will piss off lefties and literally every single group of people will be angry at them for their own reasons
just replace queen with door
Today's northernlion a10 video has to be ragebait. No one can be this inept and get to a10.
mega crit introuduces the 6th character, a milf gremlin with wide hips and big tits
>>739382498>I HAVE to play A10 because... because yes!
>>739382808Yes, that is quite literally a minority, and they're being vocal.
i just remembered something. i had a run where 2 anons skipped on history course event and voted to get the gold. We died to the experiement like a bunch of retards(p1 was at 15~ hp). Imagine being so bad you lose on multiplayer. Like you have to actively try to lose on multiplayer
>>739383812Why even play it then?
>>739384205>>739384205>>739384205
>>739383812I voted for gold, I also chunked experiment for 70% of his health. I have no idea what everyone else was doing
>>739384341>i voted to not win on the spotbravo
