Bad game that /v/ contrarians pretend to like for >teh memes

>>739364390
Pure ludokino soul
>>739364502
>t. Chaos

>>739364502
fpbp
I got memed into buying it

>>739364390
pure edgekino

So is this shit worth playing for shits 'n giggles? I tried playing both DmC: DMC and Dragon Age Inquisition for just that reason but they were so ass that it just ended up torturous. Is the gameplay in this one decent enough to make it worth it?

Chaos!

>>739364390
Honest answer would be something like Nioh. Snappy combat with a touch of build autism with an FF veneer.
Endgame can be ridiculously loot heavy at times too, arpg tier even

Also like these anons said
>>739364526
>>739364578
if you embrace the camp you will have a great time

>>739364390
Unironic ironic post-ironic kino (unironically)
Really though, it's great

>>739364649
the gameplay is really good.
actual good hack n slash action combat that can challenge you, but offers so much if you overcome it, and enough room to play around with classes and combos

>>739364390
first stage being okay

everything after that forgetable and your typical final fantasy story which is WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS

basicly Nioh with an FF skin

>>739364390
you should already know if you played nioh, and if you haven't played nioh you should play that first.

cool story
mildly grindy game
lots of FF fanservice - the soundtrack alone is pretty full of it while being great in its own right
some cool boss fights, but even though they're cool, they still just kind of die

>>739365494
I think its way better than nioh.

>>739365746
its literally the same game just with a different coat of paint

>>739365798
it really isnt.
stamina bar works way differently, you dont have stupid breathing exercises, it doesnt have stances and the job system is completely missing in nioh.
what they have in common is running through corridors to beat enemies up while you pick up diablo loot, in which case PSO is nioh with a different coat of paint.

>>739364390
kino

>>739366873
i dunno i played both and was the same game for me

i personaly wanted more story and character development
i wanted more edgy scenes of the main guy screaming how much he wanted to kill chaos and that hes a total edgelord listening to linkin park and completing "which kh character are you" quizzes or whatever

I WANTED A FULL ON EDGELORD EARLY 2000s KINO SPECTACLE

i only got that for the very first stage in the game
after that it was absolutly forgetable drivel
iam sure 99.999% of people who call this game kino never played it and just know the trailers

>>739367283
from the looks of it you havent experienced both the gameplay and the story.
why spread lies like that?

>>739367390
i wish i didnt
i wish i could have used the money for anything else

theres a reason all the marketing material is just the first stage because thats the only part of the game where interesting shit happens

(well the ending too kinda but if it wasnt for the frank sinatra song i also wouldve forgotten about it aswell)

>>739367492
you type like a zoomer redditor so I'm inclined to agree with the other anon, probably watched gameplay on youtube

>>739367492
you didnt play.

>>739367532
iam older than 90% of this sites userbase (sadly)
dont worry i find it pathetic aswell that i still use this site and continue to get baited by zoom zooms who never play vidya besides roblox, fortnite and gachatrash


iam gonna fap now and wait for the bubsy 4 release
peace out bitches

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CHAOS TOOK THE LAST CARTON OF MILK!

CHAOS JUMPED THE QUEUE IN TESCO!

CHAOS HAS GOT ME MY AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!

>>739367283
if you think those two are the same game, you're incredibly retarded and probably played neither
or you're the kind of guy who is
>Third person, action game, must be the same souls like game

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>>739367550
i wish i didnt

nioh was better btw

>>739367708
same devs and same gameplay just with a few differences

>>739364390
Genuinely great low budget arpg. Fantastic combat and involved end game. Love it

>>739364390
Jack is literally me.

Excessive grinding, a very fun and interesting job system and swap, horrible dlc balancing, bad pc optimization but most machines run it fine nowadays.
Also Jack is ironically and unironically kino.

>>739364390
a literal unironical masterpiece.
the gameplay
characters
dialogue
story
OST
all ridiculously cool.

>>739364390
A fun action RPG similar to Sekiro but with a jillion options available at once and way more character building.

gameplay is Temu Nioh
story is kino
levels are boring corridors with vague FF nostalgia and references

>>739364390
It was okay. played twice but dropped for another game.

>>739364390
One of the greatest implementations of jobs in Final Fantasy.
Don't be afraid to experiment, there's so much you can do.

>>739364390
Garbage I got tricked into buying

>It's like le nioh
If Nioh was missing half of its mechanics and depths, had them spread apart into "jobs" that are barely different and have less mechanical depth than a single Nioh stance.

>>739364390
I ended up dropping it, played through the story a bit but the gameplay never clicked with me. I'm sure there's an audience for this kind of game but it wasn't me.

>>739364390
Great game. People comparing it to nioh are retarded.

>>739364502
It's actually unironically complete kino even outside the tertiary veneer of "le jack so based and crazy"
It's the best game team ninja ever made

>>739364390
A worse nioh 2 but better nioh and wo long
it gets kinda grindy later

>>739364649
It's absolutely worth playing. The story is a deconstruction of both FF1 and JRPG stories in general and has fun with it with some emotional beats. The gameplay is Nioh 1.5 under the hood but a story playthrough doesn't overload you with Nioh autism. The DLC is great FF fan service and can get pretty tough. Post game turns everything up to 11.

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>>739364390
>its pretty good. The combat is more simplified and not as fun as nioh imo

>the combat is attack when there is an opening/use soul shield to get in->then switch jobs to cancel the recovery of your attack (if you need to) to dash away. I think job cancelling has invincibility frames?

>Managing the break gauge is fun since you have two, one for each job. Though any semblance of balance gets thrown out the window once you unlock game breaking builds

>speaking of builds, your equips determine your power level. You have to be within the power level of the mission you are entering to do reasonable damage to you or the enemies. This means it is not necessary to have top tier equipment to beat the game in any difficulty, though it def helps

>there are not much changes to enemy movesets going up the difficulties, one or two new attacks or changes at best

>>739371603
>>Managing the break gauge is fun since you have two, one for each job. Though any semblance of balance gets thrown out the window once you unlock game breaking builds

Kinda necessary because you end up oneshot anyway without that.

You won't get anything out of the story if you are not much of a FF-appreciator.

>>739371760
enemy damage =/= break damage, they could've balanced it better. In fact if they didn't touch break damage, I think it would've been acceptable

>>739371962
This is the only Final Fantasy game that I have ever played and I liked the story. Probably helps that Jack skips half the cutscenes for you though.

>>739364390
7/10 at best

>>739364390
I have no idea why the fuck I struggle with enjoying this
It's like it took the worst aspects of Nioh and and said 'yes, this is a good idea'
Between the parry system giving you shitty useless abilities or the companions being a problem or the jobs not feeling unique (cast, melee, ranged only all feel the same mostly) it just feels like they had no idea what the fuck they were doing

>>739373005
The soul shield parry? In addition to literally preventing damage and sometimes letting you use an enemy's move, it can increase your MP max. You can feel starved for MP not using it. Sometimes it's preferable to just block or dodge, but you really want to do all 3.

>>739364554
regret buyfags are goycucks

>>739373534
I get how to use it but the monster abilities are mostly retarded

>>739375852
They fuck shit up and don't cost any MP, so I often use them shortly after the enemy does a purple attack. There are better abilities that you don't steal from an enemy, but I generally want to use one whenever I can.

Do the different jobs have fleshed-out movesets that you're incentivized to use a lot of or are they more about spamming one or two moves? I'm not expecting Devil May Cry level but in Nioh for example I thought that all the weapons had a good variety of moves by means of stances and samurai lock abilities.

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>>739375852
The monster abilities without buffs are pretty mediocre but they are fast and still do a decent chunk of posture damage so they are worth doing

>>739371054
its deeper than nioh.

>>739376380
There is a decent breadth or options and I found myself using most of my repertoire when going through it, but much like every other arpg there is nothing stopping you hyperfixating on one specific move

>>739376380
some jobs are built around a singular gimmick, some jobs are more about using your given weapons.

I got two big problems with the game. You companions are useless besides being aggro sponges, even with harmonize or whatever its called the only one that can competently kill an enemy is Sophia.
And the expert jobs statmog the advanced and basic jobs so hard that you will just beeline breaker or dark knight every playthrough for the stats. Your equipment management is also a pain in the ass because it prioritizes defense over the actual important stats like affinity, because you want gear affinity in jobs you arent using so that they gain passive EXP and you dont have to grind in that job. This makes the job system more like a linear progression into the red expert jobs than a variety of useful tools with different passives and combo bonuses etc. Warrior is basically mandatory for mighty strikes buff too, but as a job its fucking useless until late post-game

>>739376380
The movesets are per-weapon and have good variety. Jobs have one unique action and passive buffs to specific combo routes (e.g. Void Knight recovers MP on hit with R1 R1 R2), the latter of which tends to funnel you toward one strategy but there's usually reasons to use other sequences too.

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>>739364390
It's almost 5 years since the trailer was released. Wanna join Chaosposting for the good old time?

>>739376380
He has a decent moveset per job, sort of dependant on which weapon he has and which moves he has equipped. You also take 2 jobs into a fight which can have completely different moves, and can switch between them lightning fast.

>>739377039
what the fuck, where did time go?

>>739364390
not team ninja's best but also not their worst, nioh 3's samurai/ninja modes feels heavily based on job swapping.

>>739377392
>not team ninja's best but also not their worst
what's their best and worst then?

>>739364390
Kino, especially the second half

>>739377980
for nioh and the reskins I'd put 2 at the top and wo long at the bottom. wo long feels like an even more restricted sop.

>>739377039
Chaosposting? I don't want to post about Chaos, I want to kill him. Not just want, it's like a hunger or thirst. I need to kill Chaos.

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>>739364649
Absolutely. The gameplay is like Sekiro tier, and the story is kino.

>>739364390
janky nioh 1.5 based in final fantasy 1 and some dissidia crossover shit

>>739364390
Kino

>>739367283
I don't give a FUCK what you wanted

URGHHH

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>>739367283
t. didn't play the game or is mentally retarded

>>739364502
It’s not actually a bad game though, the story is told in a hilariously bad way but the game is still good

>>739371054
SoP is definitely better than the first nioh

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>>739378559
Silly anon, you can demoralize Chaos before killing Chaos.

>>739364390
kino

>>739364502
>t. warrior of light

>>739364390
Dlc worth it? Heard its 200h grind.

>>739364390
beat chaos
become chaos

>>739379621
Oh no! Look at the cover! Surprise ruined!!

>>739379294
Sure, but I don't want to talk about Chaos instead of just killing Chaos. I'd like to just hear about the crystals and go back to looking for Chaos to kill him.

>>739364390
I didn't play it for long, but it felt pretty ass.
Mind you, Team Ninja does this thing where their games are excruciating to play until you unlock a few fundamental mechanics, so judging the game from the first few missions might not be fair.
Still, no matter how good it could possibly be, if it fails to retain me until I get there it's still shit. I didn't drop their other games after all.

>>739379559
Each one comes with a higher difficulty level and you're expected to do part of that before fighting the new bosses. It's fun, but you have to ask yourself if you want to play part of the game again.

>>739380003
>>739379559
No need for a 200 hour grind; it comes with a catchup armour set that makes getting into it easy, but the fights themselves are still challenging, especially some in the last dlc. Even if you haven't beaten the game, it's still worth it for the new classes and weapon types.

>>739379559
yeah but look up how the progression works because it is extremely obtuse and confusing and if you try to jump in blind you will just end up wasting a bunch of time with nothing to show for it

>>739379559
It's a series of very small rooms/instances based on original levels (small segments of levels, not entire ones) filled with enemies, different objectives (maybe boss rush, kill a specific creature etc) with random modifiers and the ability to string these instances one after another for greater rewards. Given the core of this game it's a very fun endgame that gives you not only an item grind but lots of fun combat at a moments notice. I kinda hope Nioh 3 comes with something similar once those dlcs drop. Depths got kinda boring and I'm not sure how they'll port depths to the open field.

>>739364390
It's a good game that takes itself seriously but just ends up being funny.

I can't even imagine how souless someone has to be to not enjoy SoP.

>>739380464
>that takes itself seriously
I wouldn't go that far
>but just ends up being funny.
This is true

>>739381005
Not a single one of the characters is being ironic, they ARE that autistic.

>>739381272
Yes, the characters, but the people I don't think the people writing, acting, directing, animating, or hell just making the game in general were even the least bit sincere. Like i genuinely feels like they made an entire game as a joke.

>>739380003
>>739380248
So 60h for 3 dlc? Can I turn particles off?
>>739380395
I've had that suspicion. Is every dlc different, meaning 3 obtuse systems?
>>739380452
Well, at least the dlc give you more of what makes the game great.

>>739364390
A game with very good combat and some fun/interesting progression.
Had some performance issues that were alleviated by updates but still doesn't perform the best for how it looks.

And most divisive is the story, if you like edgy, its kino, if you don't, its cringe.

Anyone complaining about it either can't stand the edge, or simply has such a shit setup they couldn't run it at all

>>739379559
erm not really to pay it the only good dlc class its the last one also you finally get garland opening armor but its so late without cheats to get it early

>>739381652
Does it have ng+?

>>739381358
No, it all seems genuine, the developers genuinely thought the game had a serious and mature tone, without a single hint of irony.

If they were being ironic it wouldn't be nearly as funny, you can tell they did it earnestly because if you turn on the sound subtitles in Nioh 3 you will no longer get *grunts of aggrement* on every grunt like on SoP, they figured out that it was not seen as serious so they toned it down a notch.

>>739381871
yup but once you got it unless you re fully invested in endgame and 100% completion its like to late to enjoy it

that machine dog from 1st DLC is unironically too hard... I don't know how to defeat it...

>>739381970
>No, it all seems genuine, the developers genuinely thought the game had a serious and mature tone, without a single hint of irony
I don't get that vibe at all. To me it always felt like Team Ninja made it completely tongue in cheek and SE is so out of touch they only found out when the release trailer became peak meme. I believe SE was earnest about it, because SE is that retarded and humorless, but it still seemed like Team Ninja knew what they were doing.

>>739382314
Punch it until it dies.

>>739382195
Thought maybe replay it in 2 years or so. Soulsgames usually die after 120-150h for me. Unsure why. There's an indie demon souls coming, curious if it will be the same there.

>>739382689
Is sop the most difficult ff?

>>739383543
OG tactics probably

>>739364390
The only good ff game

>>739364390
BULLSHIT

Sex with tiamat

>>739383863
>archers
That's borderline broken.

>>739383543
That would be 16 actually cause it sucks so much that it's hard to finish lmao.

>>739384776
That's some meta difficulty
>overcome yourself to beat the game that sucks
>>739383863
We lost the tech to recreate such a game

>>739364390
Genuine kino.

>>739364390
Way better than Nioh.

>>739383863
after FF14 yeah

>>739364502
Fpbp
>>739364390
Final Fantasy Strangers of paradise is woke the foid members lecture the males about how women aren't trophies
Diversity dei committee ruined an already mid game
The party members have ZERO chemistry

>>739364390
Proof that action based FF can work if given to the right devs.

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>>739364390
Lobotmized Nioh for people who were filtered by KI pulse. Some cool story bits. I wouldn't call it bad, but people who call it TN's best are insane.

i beat the story in 20 hours, planned on continuing but some new game i was waiting on came out and i never went back to it
i really should sometime. i hadn't played Nioh at all yet when i played SOP but now i've played 2 and 3

>>739383543
Yes, give SoP to the average FF fag and they will get filtered by chaos advent.

>>739364390
CHAOS

>>739371603
>Fight WoL and Gilgamesh
>Recognize they're using moves from the PSP dissidias
>Instantly recall the timing to block those moves

God those fights were so fucking good

>>739364502
fpbp
even among souls slop it's really low tier.

>>739388619
You got filtered by real gameplay

>>739380464
You're not familiar with camp as a genre are you...

>>739388796
>poorly made western game
SLOP
>pooorly made eastern game
ummmm it's called camp you fool

>>739364390
The best FF game of all time. The FINAL Fantasy.

>>739388796
I watched YuruCamp

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Wo Long is Nioh for babies
Strangers is Wo Long for retarded babies

>>739382392
>SE is that retarded and humorless
I am playing FF7 for the first time and it's full of genuinely good comedy.
I know FF8 has comedy in it too.
FFX-2 is camp comedy.
Some of the FF games do seem humorless like FF12, but it seems like most of them intend to be funny. So I don't know where you're getting "Square Enix is humorless" from.
Don't get me started on Kingdom Hearts.

>>739388796
What the fuck is camp? first time I heard that term as a genre.

>>739389071
Pretty sure it is just taking that old "campy" description and claiming it is a genre instead of a term to describe how a genre is being executed.

>>739389071
>>739389164
It's been a genre since the 1500's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

>>739389071
Are you 12?

>Knight/Paladin
>Perfect Block/Parry everything to death
Being able to get OP as fuck with whatever you want was fantastic.

>>739388104
>fag
Filtered by chaos

Can you turn particles off?

>>739364390
The real FFXVI. An incredible game and every job is so much fun to smash shit with.

SOP does BLU right. I'm obsessed with playing as BLU.

>>739390228
I'd agree if blue magic could have more than one instant ability at a time. There's a decent number of instant abilities that are useful, but when you can't set multiple for different situations it tends to devolve into spamming Asura or Scorching Flames.

>>739389872
The particles stay on during chaos killing.

>>739390816
>epilepsy intensifies
... Aye.. Aye

>>739390872
It wouldn't be a team ninja game without a billion particles turning your CPU into a mini nuclear reactor.

>>739390972
>turning your CPU into a mini nuclear reactor.
Right, thank god I always cast
>protect nuclear

>>739364390
absolute kino only seen once in a decade

I hate modern jrpgs but I'd buy this if it gets a switch 2 port because final fantasy 1 is my favorite and i really fucking hate chaos

>>739391610
>sop
>jrpg
really, faggot?

>>739364390
You did play with the [grunts of approval] subtitles on right???

>>739388513
That WoL light wave attack brought me back 10 years the second I seen it. Amano’s original WoL design is so fucking good man.

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>>739365334
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
This game is literally the opposite of that. The story is very blunt and straightforward. Some missions (like the Marlboro one) don't even have an introductory cutscene. It just throws you right where the gameplay is.

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>>739391680
I didn't my first playthrough, but it was worth replaying for it.

>>739392012
That some dark knight armor? Can every job equip every piece of gear?

>>739391973
What are downsides of the game? Way I see it, it's more expensive than ff16 or ff7r.

>>739391656
Is it not japanese and a role playing game? I have no idea. Im an old fag so i like my jrpgs to be some combination of whatever niggas in a row/column taking turns whacking enemies, but modern ones do some awful blend of stats and action that doesnt click with me. I havent played many action games i like monster hunter and zelda, but disliked bayonetta so i have no idea if id even enjoy playing sop

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>>739392274
>more expensive than ff16 or ff7r.
Is it? I dunno, I got it for less than 20 dollars on a steam sale.
>What are downsides of the game?
Very few downsides imo. Two things I don't like about it is that in my experience at least, you'll be setting two jobs for Jack, but only using one of them for most of the time. Also, L1 parries are almost pointless and you'll be very rarely using them instead of B parries.
These are the only downsides of the game in my opinion. The combat is incredibly fun, and I recommend playing on hard without party members for maximum enjoyment.

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>>739392226
You can do that thing where you set the appearance of your good gear to that of something else.

>>739392226
That's dragoon armor. Jack can equip all the armor in the game, but your party members restricted to certain pieces that suits their available jobs, which sets 2 "paths" for them. She can either be of the mages jobs or spear wielding dragoon.

>>739392312
it's a niohlike action game, technically it is both japanese and an rpg but this is like calling Nioh or souls games jrpgs

>>739392312
It is more like MH in that regard, though SoP combo links has similarities with Bayonetta. Every weapon has basic 3 hit combo, follow up moves that requires directional input and powerful combo finishers (like wicked weaves), which you unlock by leveling jobs and setting up by yourself to fit your playstyle.

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>>739392581
> but only using one of them for most of the time
Skill issue. Sure, optimizing end game build do works like you mentioned, but that doesn't means that you can't play with heavy job swap canceling.
> L1 parries are almost pointless and you'll be very rarely using them instead of B parries.
There are 2 jobs that purely focused around using L1 parries.

I fully finished it alongside the DLCs, it starts off goofy but man the ending really got to me...
Gameplay is fun but the grind can get insane late game
Overall it was good!

>DLC was teasing dissidia lore being mixed in
>we'll never get it
it hurts

>My Way starts playing
Genuinely kino but to Frank (pun intended) you could play this song over someone taking a shit and it would still be kino

Is it fun if I don't really know shit about Final Fantasy? I've only played 7 and 10.

>>739393315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpCqqlyeM_8
Is this was the last time when /v does this?

>>739392274
Like reasons to not play it? It doesn't have any RPG towns or an overworld or anything. You pick a mission to go to the place it's set, and when you beat the boss of that mission, you're sent to select another one. It's more like Nioh in that regard. The combat is also heavily an action RPG, mostly leaning towards action, though you can and should eventually care about equipment and shit.

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>>739393373
Yeah you'll be fine. Will miss some references to locales and jobs but that's about it.

>>739392581
>you'll be setting two jobs for Jack, but only using one of them for most of the time
In main game, this isn't really the case. DLC tends to push you toward one gameplay and one support job though, since stat investments start to matter, you don't get enough points to cover all bases on one job, and it's just more efficient to have job 2 prop up job 1. You can just not cover those bases and play both offensively if you're a god, but that won't be most people.
Also if you enjoy jobs like summoner it sucks switching constantly.
>L1 parries are almost pointless
They're a lot more valuable than you think, but it's common to fall into the trap of seeing max MP gain on soul shield and writing off parry as a result. I don't remember if the game mentions the break recovery buff on parry either.

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square enix games have always been good. you're either just a turnfag who got filtered by them for lacking the skill or just never touched them yourself and base your opinion on the mainstream consensus

>>739393373
i mean, playing 2 entries gives you a pretty strong grasp on FF in general

>>739393373
Honestly yes.
Maybe even the most accessible FF game.

>>739394118
This.

>>739393417
Kino

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>>739364390
Best Final Fantasy game in existance (also happens to be a typical Team Ninja game and yet it works).
I wish I could wipe my memory and play this again.

>>739393274
We did actually, it's in the mobile game

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>>739364502
This, kinda. It's extremely overrated here on /v/, but still a decent game overall. Get it on sale.

what are the odds a neet /v/ anon could work for Square Enix as a writer
I want to write games like this
never ever right? I should give up my dreams, etc. etc.

>>739364502
Pretend?

>>739395101
>Best Final Fantasy game in existance
i love the game but this is a faggot take

>>739395423
SOP stands out to me mostly because it tries doing what Square Enix isn't brave enough to do even with their now decades of action-RPG experience: try to translate the Job System into a 3D action game

SOP devolves into buff-whoring at its endgame but I think for what's basically the first attempt at the Job System in a 3D space it is a valiant effort, if not a downright good one

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>>739364502
/thread

>>739364390
Fun. Pure fun and good characters with a great OST. Performance is okay to lock at 60fps but trying to go over that causes bad slowdown with bursts and some hitching.

Is Mage > Sage the easiest job for the first run, especially if you get that gun laser beam weapon skill?
I just want to rush shit until I can actually unlock everything that Team Ninja always looks to post game

>>739396980
what sort of mage

Who was Astos, again?

>>739364390
The best job system in a FF game and the best combat.

>>739398379
Your best bro, of course.

>>739396980
I think so, cuz you can restore mana with mage job, after spending it to get tokens as sage for Ultima.

>>739396409
The only real complaint I have with the game is the characters' designs. Memes aside, Jack is extremely generic, as are Ash and Jed and Sophia and Sarah.

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>>739399916
Bullshit.

>>739396980
Dark knight with an axe and reinforce or blood seal/summon tachi as a command ability kills everything. You can legit kill the big bads in one tomahawk if you use a damage buffing command. Bosses get railed too.

>>739400789
Explain, I keep hearing how Axe is good

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>>739364502
You can't fool us chaos

>>739396980
It's the most training wheels option. Axe + Reinforce lets you shit out huge damage with fast charge attacks and bruteforce things.

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>>739364390
gameplay is ok, story is a meme. Same writer as ff7r and ff8 if i remember right.

>>739364502
fpbp

>>739401618
>Writers
>Kazushige Nojima
>Tomoco Kanemaki
Yep.

>>739401406
For mp cost it just explodes enemies. Ground pound and tomahawk 1 shot everything. They get even better with command buffs like reinforce to speed up charging, or damage boosting commands to kill tankier enemies. Basic attack combo is a bit suboptimal compared to other weapons, just stick to using link attacks or whatever those abilities are called.

>>739396980
Magic fucks shit up easily, so probably. Ninja also has a good set of moves including a buff that autododges the next hit.

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>First boss
>Big knight guy
>Beat the fuck out of him with my fists
>Turns into a cute girl
>She blogposts about how Chaos isn't real
>"Bullshit"

Ok its fucking kino

>>739402710
You understand now

>>739401406
>first playthrough
Bosses don't deal enough damage to kill you while charging attacks while you only need 1-3 fully charged abilities to kill them depending on how much you want to prebuff even on hard. Maybe they patched it since release but it was genuinely retarded and completely foolproof to get into a boss face, charge moonfall or whatever it was called, delete his break gauge, heal and do it again for the second phase. Every time some anon was struggling every reply was telling him to just go unga with the axe

>>739387587
nobody is filtered by KI pulse its not a hard mechanic its just a boring one.

>>739404087
>nobody is filtered by KI pulse
i lold

>>739404087
Sounds like you got filtered by it

>>739404327
do attack, do a breath.
clearly ultra cerebral high skill rocket surgery.

>>739404606
imagine admitting to being filtered like this

>>739404710
?

>>739399916
>Jack is generic
that's what makes him so good. He's just angry man played straight and unashamedly.

>>739399916
If Jack is so generic then how come you can recognize his silhouette immediately?

I decided to start a new run after a year or so and I just now realized I went through the ENTIRE first run + postgame without knowing how fucking obscene Reinforce from Swordsman is and you get that shit 5m in
Well, I feel really stupid now since it even makes Magic faster

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>>739399916
>Jack is extremely generic

>>739405189
I recognize this silhouette by its strength

>>739405189
I don't know who this stranger is but I respect his strength.

>>739405189
Someone made a perfect drawing of him in a 7 lines thread i wish I saved it

I got filtered my first time by the skill trees. I have a type of autism that compels me to max them all out and it was daunting

Is there any gain from maxing skill trees or is it more pick a class/weapon you enjoy and just play?

>>739405379
Until chaos mode there is no reason to bother with the basic and advanced jobs outside of beelining for the expert jobs. After you break the level cap in chaos mode they finally catch up to the expert jobs at like level 50.

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>>739405469
>I CAN'T FEEEEL THE WAY I DID BEFORE

>>739406342
I DRINK MY DRINK AND I DONT EVEN WANT TO
I THINK MY THOUGHTS WHEN
I
DONT
EVEN
NEED TO

>>739396980
>using magic
>rushing your first time

chaosfag

>>739364390
Finoh Faniohtasy

Vidya needs more characters like Jack
Niggas who have an autistic focus on their quest, who do it for a love of the fight

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>Some elf about to monologue
>Jack interrupts
based, I'm not here for your lore dumps, I am here to kill Chaos

>>739405189
bodied that freak

Jack honestly deserved to win king of /v/. I don't know if I would have played his game if he didn't, and I'm glad he did. It's literally the inverse Forspoken.

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>>739402710
>>739409584
It is adorable, I'm glad you like it.

>>739409584
I loved when one of the characters wanted to talk about his feelings with Jack and the response was that Jack doesn't want to hear it.

>>739364390
>Temu sekiro by temu fromsoft
Lmao no thanks

>>739405379
It will be in post story mode. There are some cool abilities inside certain trees tho, but nothing mandatory, it's more like testing shit out and finding build variation for yourself.
You can also just dump Anima to level up jobs without playing them.

If I had to criticize the game, I wish there were more ways to increase mp/lessen mp cost. In a balance standpoint it made sense to have it limited but using your normal attacks is too vanilla

>>739412079
faggots like this will exist and faggots like this >>739404087 will say nobody is filtered by Ki Pulse, lmao

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>>739412434
Bullshit.

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>>739379559
More like
>use that one sub mission in the snow area, run through and grab key, then kill the Malboro at the end (eventually you can use one of the Berserker sub classes to keep him stunned and abuse this for good rewards)
>for materials, there's also the sub mission in the area you fight Kraken that ends with two mini bosses, you can knock them off the ledge to win with the default spear combo finisher since it has knock back as you do them for easy rewards once you get what to do
>DLC3, you can do the sub mission for right before you went into the rift. Killing the right metal cactaur can be done with getting thousand needles or using the paladin job, helps max out levels and the third type of material that lets you easily dupe gear
A bit of grinding and repetitive busy work, yes, but you don't need to grind for 200 hours. Only real issue I can think of is if you want to get deep in the Rift, you need to really go full autism. I'm talking finding builds that let you do plenty of bullshit, getting status immunity, do huge damage, stay invincible, etc. I went 100+ floors with Cyclic Warrior/Ninja and basically had a build that would let me spam quakes that would destroy health bars while forcing me into lightbringer and making me invincible while also refunding the cost of my MP. Shit was self sustaining and nuts, and I could use Ninja for three extra free hits to avoid damage and to chain cancel to max MP.

The DLC lets you go do a bunch of shit and it's awesome for it. Every job can be brought to beat the story for the DLC, even the beginner jobs, and it's fun as hell.

>>739367283
You didn't play the game
Jack goes full edge lord especially during the last couple stages

>>739364390
A much worse game than FFXVI

>>739364390
It's definitely a game

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>>739364390
jack's game

Do I have to play as Jack

>>739414536
you can play as any of the party members, I think you can also play as astos at some point as well
but... why wouldn't you want to play as jack? are you chaos?!

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>>739414618
No, just AGP

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>>739396270
The ending is pure unfiltered kino

>>739401618
>story is a meme
What does that even mean?

>>739392012
Sex with Sophia

This is the best non-rpg of the last decade aside from Fromsoft and I fucking hate Nioh. Nioh 3 is ok.

>>739414976
He's dumb. It does indeed starts as bar written parody, but eventually everything makes total sense at the end and you realize that is was a pretty solid story after all.

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>>739405189
I RESPECT JACKS STRENGTH

>>739364390
it's fun, I only finished the main story though I didn't do the extra grind or dlcs
I enjoyed my time. The classes are all pretty fun to play, I did feel like sage/white mage made it a bit too easy at times but whatever.

>>739364390
It's too easy for a souls-like. While the DLC post maingame is a fucking massive spike, everything is tanky as fuckkkkkk.

Good story though but the post-game is more annoying to play

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>punch clash into flashback
i WEPT.

>>739417621
>he saved us but we couldn't save him

>>739412549
you make no sense.

>>739364390
It's E33 except with good gameplay, a good story and a good OST. It's Nioh but good.

>>739420136
>I'm getting a lot of "Boss Baby" vibes from this

I got filtered by the grind. I don't know how to put together a good build

>>739420330
At some point I just started using the auto equip button and ignoring the loot entirely.
It seems like the kind of system you could make some crazy builds with if you pay attention to the armor, but you really don't need to to just have fun with the combat systems.

>>739420330
Auto-equip until post game. Just use what works and fun to use. It's the post game that you have to figure shit out because of the difficulty spike

>>739409584
Everyone found that shit funny and then later on it goes back why the fuck Jack is like that and it's pure kino manly tears afterwards

>>739420473
you need to make builds for the dlc. before that auto equip is king because gear level is all that actually matters as you keep replacing shit and none of the synergies truly kick in yet.

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>>739420518
I'm talking about end game. I never beat the DLC's or did all the real end game stuff

>>739420330
Pick a basic job with spinning move, set command abilities mighty strikes (all attacks hit "weakness") + lancet (HP/MP recovery from hitting the weakness), enjoy never ending spinning action.

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>>739417621
Love this nigga

ARE THOSE CUBES?

>>739364390
it is actually great. square could learn a lot from how they implemented the job system in an action game. it's awesome.

>>739414941
>ending
that's only the ending of the base game, the story continues with the dlc

>>739420880
WHO AM I????

>>739412434
Most of the mid/end-game fun builds nearly completely ignore MP altogether. And if you can perfect block, you can semi-ignore it for early game too.

>>739421106
>Square could learn a lot from how they implemented the job system in an action game.
>have played this game for hundreds if not a thousand hours across multiple platforms
>just now realize this thought
Huh. You're right.

I know who Astos is.

>>739421719
King of the Dark elves.

>>739421958
For now I'll just say Stranger of Paradise is going to age well.

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>>739391680
the guy who wrote these had a lot of fun

>>739364390
Fun but too much content, you will burn out before then end.

>>739420880
Bro got did dirty, but it's ok everyone else was also done dirty since they have to follow the canon

>>739422320
>beat main game in 30 hours
>unlock post game
>uninstall 3 years ago
>re-installing now to grind because I don't feel like doing anything else

I really like seal of blood + ultima. Is there anything that hits harder?

>>739422320
You can somewhat rush through the first two DLCs by just forging your equipment into [core offensive stat] + Stamina & Intellect.
Raw stats wear out by the time you get to gilgamesh but at that point you can put on shit you find on the ground and still make it to the end. The real post-game when you're pushing high floors? Yeah that shit takes awhile just to get a build that can hack it.

>>739422461
I have the itch too, I stopped early gilgamesh. The problem being, I don't know how to play anymore.

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Sex with Neon

>>739423385
The problem is that you don't respect Jack's strength.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6DqxxIaBY

>>739413567
Holy crap.

>>739421958
Is... that all...?

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>>739423751
Many are saying this.

>>739364390
And early and midgame that are kind of eh where very little happens and then giga ultra kino

>>739423751
>>739425147
>Looks like a cute girl
>Total tomboy
Its like she was made specifically for me

Sword and Board in this game is insane. Shield Bash is a cancel, combo extender and if you time it with an enemy's attack you can even get perfect parry effects too AND it does very good break damage. Paladins get to boost their damage with holy fang and can eat hits even on high rift floors with Sentinel/Titan's blessing and Alexander's parry effects. You can also pop Intercept regularly and auto counter when you do get hit. I have never played a game where the sword and shield combat is so disgusting and I love it.

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>>739426015
don't forget the DLC skill where you judgement cut behind them that has full invuln. absolutely disgusting.

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>>739405360
This one?
>>739426651
Damn fucking right brother

>>739426820
>50 lines

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Played through the main campaign with a friend and fucking loved it. We stopped before the DLC though because he wasn't into it enough to grind for better gear and was getting frustrated with the single-player-only parts

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>>739423751
>>739425147
Best girl, I only wish playing as her wouldn't make the finishers look so off. Everyone suffers this but Neon is likely the worst one due to how much smaller than Jack her frame is (erotic)
>>739405360

>>739379195
lol no, I bought it for the bad story
The gameplay is so terrible that it’s not worth suffering through

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>>739364390
Fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ip-RBPn_94

>>739364502
chaos hands types this

>>739364390
>>739364502
>Bad game that /v/ contrarians pretend to like for >teh memes
Just play Ninja Gaiden instead. Everything that team ninja developed after the series died was just the inferior version of Ninja Gaiden with a lot of useless, bloated shit on top of it.

>>739428242
>why don't you play this game in another genre instead
Also, every NG game has dogshit bosses, bosses in SOP are actually fun to play against.

>>739428242
>Nigger Goyden

Its weird how much people say the game is full of epic jack moments when its really just the beginning couple of missions, the singular middle point of the lich fight, then the last couple of missions. The middle part of the game got stale until after the tower. Although im going through the beginning of the gilgamesh stuff (because this jump from 300 to 500 gear level is kinda weird progression that put me off for a month) there really hasnt been much more except the tiny bit he brings out with the WoL part.
Also I find the combo system a bit of a pain since I always like having dragoon jump being available but it would mean having to put it over every single combo string.

>>739429263
You get max level gear from a doing a few missions. And just put dragoon jump after block/parry if it bothers you that much. Imagine complaining about being able to set your ability wherever you want in a string.

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>>739364390
This is a strange game where I enjoyed everything about it and still enjoy climbing the void. But every time I try to get someone into it they either just stop after 3-4 missions or they beat the base game and now suddenly when the game wants them to start making builds they stop playing because "i came here to play an action game, not mmo grinding". Its a great game though, I dont get it.

>>739428242
Ninja Gaiden fans can't even decide which version of which game to play nor come to a general consensus regarding which games are actually good.

>>739364649
Did you like Nioh at all?
Because the gameplay here is basically Nioh