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Diamond City, home
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>>739417642
Ha Ha its just a shittier Megaton omg you cant make this shit up what a garbage game
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>>739417642
>customizing your home in Diamond City will permanently fuck up AI pathfinding because of engine spaghetti code
Great job Bethesda.
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>>739417727
Nice try but that's not how your shit Jeet game looks like in reality
Also Diamond City has crops, a greenhouse, brahmin pen, and a small water treatment plant, so we know what they eat
It even has a school for kids! Civilization is rebuilding
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>>739417642
year of our todd 2026 and people want prebuilt settlements instead of making their own? very cringe
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>>739418043
>permanently fuck up AI pathfinding
specifically indoors because for whatever fucking reason you customizing your home fucks up nav meshes for every indoor zones.
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>>739418141
ENTER
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>>739418223
Todd needs to pivot the company into making first person shooter Rimworld
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>>739417642
>>739417727
Both are dogshit
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>>739417642
I think Fallout 4 has overall the best damn map out of the three 3D Fallout games
It's varied, lots of different environments and biomes, buildings you can enter, with loads of environmental storytelling
I know some people don't like how there isn't enough existing cities (there's only DC, Goodneighbor, and some of the faction HQs) and how there are raiders and supermutants and whatnot everywhere
But it's IMO the funniest 3D Fallout map to explore, Far Harbor was great, Nuka World too if you ignore the nonsensical story
Also for me it's the Glowing Sea
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>>739418669
I fucking hate the voiced protag, kind of retarded story, and the yes/no(yes)/sarcastic(yes)/tell me more(yes) dialogue system, and the lack of already established towns, but yeah I can't really refute this
It also helps that the gameplay and movement overall are good for once, the exploration has a great flow to it
There's also a lot more verticality compared to 3 and NV
In a perfect world, Betheshit would stop being retarded, and make a Fallout 5 game where they 100% focus on the map, while another studio that knows how to write would be in charge of worldbuilding, story, characters, dialogue
Not necessarily Obsidian since they are absolute shit these days
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>>739418950
>Not necessarily Obsidian since they are absolute shit these days
Just hire Avellone
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>>739419059
So he can self insert as a nihilistic faggot to belittle the player AGAIN?
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>>739418669
> out of the three 3D Fallout games
76 has a neater map
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>>739419118
He's flawed but in terms of lore and worldbuilding he's the most trust worthy person. There are Fallout writers that arguably wrote better stuff than him like John Gonzalez or Scott Campbell but they often feel like one trick ponies and Avellone just feels more reliable.
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>>739419179
>Grindy, P2W MMO slop
Pass.
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>>739418223
this goes off the deep end hard at the end. the whole of chapter 3 really.
also pay attention to when they started using gender neutral pronouns for the PC.
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>>739419275
SS1 was good, SS2 is unnecessary bloated trash made by self-indulgent gay trannies FACT
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>>739418669
>I think Fallout 4 has overall the best damn map out of the three 3D Fallout games
Fallout 76. And it's not even close.
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>>739419487
see
>>739419205
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>>739419487
True
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>>739418950
Fallout 4 when modded works best as survival/settlement building game. The storyline however is beyond fixing.
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>>739419204
Absolute nonsense. Avellone is frequently called out as the guy who over-writes and over-indulges. Go play his other games. Fuck's sake just play WOTR. Perfect example of what not having JSawyer to tard wrangle your shit does to a mf.

john gonzales is the GOAT of obsidian's worldbuilding and writing. now that he's apparently back working there maybe they have a chance at making a good videogame again.
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>>739419503
>see my retarded opinion that proves I never played the game
ok, now what stupid nigger
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>>739419593
Fair enough, but you sure about Gonzalez? Yes New Vegas was great, but ever since then the only notable thing he seems to have written for are the Horizon games, and they are pretty mediocre. I hope he's able to write good things for Obsidian but I'm skeptical.
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>>739419735
>you sure about Gonzalez
its not a matter of "being sure", it's a matter of assigning writing credit, and his credits on FNV far outweight anyone else's
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>>739417642
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>>739418669
>I think Fallout 4 has overall the best damn map out of the three 3D Fallout games
I remember being excited to finally explore the Glowing Sea. That was until you actually get in there and find that any dropped or found loot is just randomly generated and you could have found it in literally any other random container on the map.
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>>739417642
If the Commonwealth ever becomes civilized I assume diamond city will eventually expand outside of the stadium. I wonder how it would look in the future.
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>>739418669
I liked the retrofuturism, but I still preferred DC Ruins and Capital Wasteland in general. It really did seem inhospitable.
Glowing Sea was terrifying on Survival. The complete lack of save points made it an actual expedition into Hell where you had to go in, do your business and make it out in one single trip, with very limited supplies because your weight limit is low and everything weighs a lot, including ammo and meds. RadAway and Rad-X were risks because of how rare and expensive Antibiotics are and how much of an impact an unlucky disease roll can have on your combat efficiency. And since everything in the Glowing Sea is so strong, you have to be in perfect condition to stand a chance. You could take Power Armor with you for the Rads but it's a tradeoff because Power Armor sucks in Survival.
Far Harbor started off great when the inhabitants kept hyping up the Fog, too bad it ended up being mostly nothing. Still, Far Harbor was an amazing DLC. Miles better than Automatron and Nuka-World.
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>>739417642
Why don't they use the stands for anything?
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>>739419503
I can praise Fallout 4's map while thinking it's a dogshit game and I can do the same for 76. It's objectively the best map Bethesda has ever created.
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>>739420717
houses/shops/whatever are built there but you can't access them iirc
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>>739417642
Ah I love this game so much any recommendations recently bought ps5 for gta 6
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>>739420636
Great shot anon
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>>739420636
I've always thought that removing hard saves from Survival Mode is the most moronic idea Bethesda ever had in one of their game
It would be fine if it wasn't a buggy Bethesda piece of trash game that require 50 mods to fix and correct various things, and will still crash and shit itself afterwards at a moment's notice
So I just use the Survival Mode Options mod, allows you to reenable hard saves
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>>739417642
Today I will remind them.
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>>739417642
why can't toddslop games have any semblance of grounded realism? people living in garbage for 200 years is stupid
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>>739419593
>Boone and Veronica were written by the same guy
Interesting. They're my favorite companions so I guess it wasn't a coincidence. I could have sworn Boone was an Avellone creation for some reason.
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>>739424417
At this point, I think they're doing this simply as rage bait.
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>>739424417
people live in garbage right now
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>>739424417
Kek
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>>739417642
>>739417727
You just know that they were designed by an urban bugman.
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>>739419593
>Avellone is frequently called out as the guy who over-writes and over-indulges
Agreed, you can mostly see this in Alpha Protocol
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>>739424634
but not the entire civilization. if you go to cape town you have millionaires driving ferraris behind gated communities from the slums.
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>>739424471
Naw they are just lazy and its easier to make a handful of visual assets and then scatter them in different positions than to make unique assets like New Vegas did
They even brazenly shoehorned their dev process as a "settlement builder" and passed it off as gameplay because they were so lazy they wanted the player to fill in the settlements for them
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>>739417642
I'd rather play anything else bethesda has utterly ruined fallout 4 and it wasn't that good in the first place.
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>>739424717
>Naw they are just lazy
>gives the player the ability to make cities
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>>739424417
Ah yes, the grounded realist city of New Vegas that totally doesn't have trash littered everywhere (not to mention the whole map of the game consisting in destroyed buildings and rubbles every fucking where
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>>739424634
>people
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>>739417642
To be fair, turning baseball stadium into a settlement does make sense. It's large walled structure, and you could also put stuff into the interior.
...But what's fucking stupid is the whole deal of people thinking that baseball was some bloodsport in the past. Like what the fuck, there's absolutely no records of the past left? Kind of says everything you need to know about Bethesda's world building.
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>>739424734
>than to make unique assets like New Vegas did
It was so cool of Obsidian to design 10 assets in total
They did a tremendous job making an empty ass, boring, samey looking map!
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>>739424810
meant for
>>739424717
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>>739424780
your brown
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>>739424756
the strip is a preserved pre-war oasis, and you know this.

and the reason the asset variety is mostly made out of wrecked garbage is because they had to make the game in 18 months so 80% of the assets are fo3 assets. yet you still see the khans living in tent cities, people setting up industrial farms and quarries
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>>739424734
All they did was package their devtools into the game and made their laziness in not using them a "feature"

And that picture proves my point, i can literally see about a dozen visual assets scattered and layered infinitely

Beyond lazy imho
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>>739424417
>Neo Vaginas have invaded the thread
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>>739424895
>because they had to make the game in 18 months so 80% of the assets are fo3 assets.
They agreed to and signed the 18 month contract.
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>>739424876
No im not European
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>>739424417
This guy has trouble understanding that 200+ years is a ridiculous amount of time.
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>>739424932
agreeing to ship the game in 18 months and the game's assets being 80% of f3 aren't mutually exclusive with my statement from earlier.
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>>739417642
The cities in Fallout 4 were so disappointing. They're so tiny with nothing going on in them.
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>>739424756
The actual strip is pretty clean. The Mojave is also a war zone, so it not being in great shape is expected.
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>>739424810
>>739424845
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>>739418093
what's the point of a school when only a dozen people live there
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>>739424895
Here's that preserved pre-war oasis i was telling you about
Also
>and the reason the asset variety is mostly made out of wrecked garbage is because they had to make the game in 18 months so 80%
Not an excuse, Bethesda didn't decide to cut the development short randomly, Obsidian knew about the deadline from the very start of the project
Obsidian bit more than they could chew and put out a very unfinished product in every aspect because lack of prioritization and overambitious scope
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>>739425078
>Obsidian bit more than they could chew and put out a very unfinished product in every aspect because lack of prioritization and overambitious scope
And yet its still better than anything slopthesda put out with years of development
Sad!
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>>739425078
I will never not be mad at the absolute state of the Legion
A shallow husk with barely any quest and fleshing out, you have to basically mod this faction in, in order to make a Legion playthrough worthwhile and not boring shit where you kill everyone, it's fucking ridiculous
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>>739425078
And yet it was better then anything bethesda has put out in the fallout world. Hell they were so butthurt by that they made the show to kill every single aspect of New Vages lore.
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>>739425145
>>739425218
They really outdid Bethesda in how to release a completely broken, buggy, janky and clunky piece of trash game
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>>739425078
>Not an excuse
the pic you yourself posted >>739424932 directly correlates my point you dumb nigger. the whole point is that the game wouldn't exist without 80% of the assets being from FO3, the assets of which depict people living in garbage.
>Bethesda didn't decide to cut the development short randomly
what part about the fact that they had 18 months to finish a game with pre-made assets is unclear to you fucking roomtemp IQ niggerbrain? they either accept the contract or there IS NO GAME.
>because lack of prioritization and overambitious scope
what lack of prioritization? if they redo the art direction then they have ZERO usable assets besides depicting something that is intentionally left to ruin. you understand nigger? they can either spend a year on making assets which THEY DO NOT HAVE the luxury for or the game DOES NOT EXIST
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>>739425324
Lack of prioritization in how they focused on making dogshit card and casino minigames instead of properly finishing and fleshing out the second biggest faction in the game
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>>739425078
>Obsidian bit more than they could chew
Avellone even said the game was done in time but Obsidian's management decided to keep adding and used it as an excuse to get a time extension.
They did the same thing with Alpha Protocol and AP still released broken.
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>>739425273
Is that what stargarbage and fallout 4 don't work on ps5 faggot you bethesda drones aren't even people.
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>>739424734
>Repaired bridge

Mods.
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fallout 4 is fun with mods
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>>739420636
>Glowing Sea was terrifying on Survival.
i just did it for the first time and it was easy
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>>739425406
what does this have to do with your initial point that the assets look like people living in garbage being somehow the result of them not prioritizing right?
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>>739425432
Playing Bethesda engine games on Pigstation machines is like repeatedly touching a scorching hot oven and complaining that it always hurts like hell
And Starfield, regardless if you like it or hate it, is objectively the most stable game Bethesda ever released, which was expected considering it runs on a whole new version of the Creation Engine
It still has the usual Bethesda buggy behaviors, but I can't say I had many crashes or corrupted saves or broken quests and that's without unofficial fixes and engine fixes mods and so on, it was mostly smoothsailing, which was refreshing
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>>739425653
/v/ isn't one person
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>>739425821
ok, so if you are not the guy and lying because you're embarasssed, then why are you interjecting in a discussion without "nta". this is an anonymous website, you understand?
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Codsworth
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>>739417642
Fallout 4 is crazy good!
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>>739426075
buttba
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The TV show is kinda ass but that NCR custom power armor is the best idea they had
Almost makes me wish Obsidian had done a similar power armor design for the NCR in New Vegas, instead of having them wearing those ridiculous slightly reskinned stormtroopers armors
I'm using a mod for it in Fallout 4 and it's breddy gud
I know New Vegas has that Titans of the New West mod and a TV show NCR power armor mod, but it has like 52 fucking pages of reported bugs on Nexus so I'm good
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>>739426075
Epic
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>>739424634
>people
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>>739424734
how did they put these up there
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>>739417642
>That disgusting lighting and color contrast
Fallout 4 was fucking horrible, fisher price toy coloring and zero atmosphere or immersion. 3 and NV are two of my favourite games but I hated this pile of shit
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>>739426890
very carefully
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>>739426406
its established already the NCR doesnt have infinite resources and mojave campaign is running on fumes, so they definitely wouldnt have the resources to equip their military with what look like some retrofitted t45 with far more advanced weapon systems than any PA in existence in the setting, and definitely not in mojave. it's just another case the writers not bothering to read the fan wiki beyond the first 1-2 sentences while scoping out the setting, which is also the reason why house has an eclave megabase in his basement without him knowing about it or just not caring.
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>>739426920
It looks way better 4k/Ultra settings
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>>739420636
Survival hit a break point for me (probably when I finally upgraded my gun) where things went from being scary to everything just fucking dies and poses little to no threat.

Early game molotovs are complete bullshit though.
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>>739426957
Rule of cool nigger, for that NCR power armor I do not give a fuck about muh real life logistics
The rest I agree with you
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>>739426406
>I NEED MORE POWER ARMORS, DADDY TODD!
eat a dick you tasteless faggot
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>>739426992
>It looks way better 4k/Ultra settings
No, it doesn't. The stylistic choices ruined this game, along with the terrible writing and location design. Playing it on a bugman monitor or with better textures doesn't make a shred of difference.
In fact I preferred playing Fallout on old laptops, it felt right.
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>>739427030
While on the topic of armor mods, here's this one here, I think it's the best armor mod for New Vegas.
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/94643
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>>739426890
and how do they not crash through those thin ass metal sheets
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>>739424734
First off, its modded. Second, that render crashed in CK, and would keep crashing in-game too, if loading at all.
What a shitty bait.
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>>739427024
ncr is meant to be kind of a fallout's socioeconomic/state building marvel and their power is cool because it's based on rules defined by the setting. if you just turn them into marvel avengers they lose that and become boring.
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>>739426920
that's why you use 500 mods and duct tape
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>>739427203
>marvel avengers
nigga it's just a salvaged power armor with a desert ranger helmet, it's not that deep
still looks way better than the cringe stormtroopers armors they got at hoover dam
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>>739427282
NTA. Damn. That looks good.
Kinda want to replay 4 but with something to make it dark like that and actually challenging. More of a survival horror game set in the fallout universe.
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>>739427321
>salvaged power armor
the actual NCR PA isn't powered like the one in the show is. it won't increase your strength or give you mobility, it's basically just medieval plate armor due to the motion servos not working. the game showing a FO3 PA asset is a consequence of their lack of development time.

the NCR can't even afford to outfit their troops with actual maintained equipment or train them, so they definitely wouldn't be fielding anything like maximus is in the show. if they could operate prototype PA on every frontier they would already have taken over the continent by ease.
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>>739427282
>turns fallout 4 into gaymma/analmeme garbage
makes me laugh every single time
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>>739427394
you're better off just playing stalker

>>739427604
yes :)
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>>739418223
>Sim Settlements
what is this? I replay fallout 4 mostly for the settlement building and shit, is this geared toward me?
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>>739427837
>>739427604
you know whats funny. theres a million mods to turn fallout into stalker but not one mod to turn stalker into fallout
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>>739417642
I still can’t play this shit because they break your mods with every update
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>>739427837
What about Metro?
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>>739428020
sim settlements 1 is nice, it gives you an alternate way to decorate your towns, sim settlements 2 is trash, it tries to be a new shittier game
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>>739428146
Does it add any actual gameplay mechanics? or is it just a decorations mod?
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>>739428204
whole new quests with NPCs with dialogue, completely new resource system for your settlements
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>>739427282
looks like dogshit for indians
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>>739428064
metro is just call of duty with gas masks
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choose
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>>739428030
Because Stalker already is Fallout. I recall reading a preview for the original Stalker in a Russian magazine where they had photos of the studio, and one developer had a PC all covered in greebles and crap to make it look like a Fallout prop. They were huge Fallout fans at the time.
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>>739428589
marry marry marry
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As bad as fallout 4 is as rpg. Hardcore/survival mode was best rpg there is for 20-30 hours. After you are set up. It's same slop.
It's just shame nobody is making proper story driven survival rpg without multiplayer involved and base building elements.
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>Just found out i cannot have Jezebel as a follower
And here i was thinking about forcing her into a slutbot frame and parading her around the Wasteland
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>>739428589
Curie (original robot form) > all
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>>739417642
>expect to have a nice cinematic view walking into something really cool
>don't even remember my first time walking into it, the place is so ugly its like walking into a literal brazilian slum

My memory of seeing the gates of stormwind for the first time is more fond and remembered than this ugly trash.
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>>739428589
Synth Curie, its not even a choice.
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>>739428589
Cait
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>>739429034
Its so bafling bethasda wants to cling to this eternal end of world aesthetic.
Only memorable moment in basegame is when BOS arrives in airship. Something that's outside of normal aesthetics of the game.
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>>739428589
this artstyle makes them all equally cute
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>>739417642
>city set in a ballpark
>no food vendor that sells hotdogs
And emil is supposedly from Boston... What a fraud
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>>739417642
I like the mod that makes it realistic and throws a bunch of shit sheds and whore houses on the sides of the city on the stand area.
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>>739428589
>hate the way piper talks
>cait is always my waifu
Who's in the middle? Im pretty sure I did all dlcs and I don't recognize her
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>>739429448
it's the french robot
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>>739417727
Yeah no shit, retard. Like >>739418641 says, both are shit, but the layout works because no one wants to fucking navigate a mongrel favela labyrinth
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>>739427163
It just works
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>>739429547
what french robot
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Consider this: Ghoulette waifu companion from the Tales of the Commonwealth mod
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>>739429605
she's in some vault and you can get her to come with you (and eventually put her in a different body)
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>>739429631
>Check out FNV Nexus in search of a good Ghoulette companion
>Despite FNV having bazillion mods, there is not a single one
Why the fuck is FNV modding community so retarded?
Oh well, at least we got Audrey in F4
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>>739417642
Why dont they pick up their garbage
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>>739428589
Curie so I can teach her the pleasure the human form can receive and give alongside many other new experiences.
Piper is definitely used goods and looks kind of jewish
Cait is mega used goods rape meat
Curie is the only pure one
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>>739424634
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>>739429764
Something something post apocalypse
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>>739429764
We should be more concerned about the skeletons
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>>739424634
No wonder brown folks love nuFallout so much
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>>739417642
I hate the entire setting of fallout
>Bombs fell 200 years ago
>People still live in shacks and caves
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>>739429757
>there is not a single one
>he doesn't know
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>>739427282
>>739427837
Got a mod list/reshade preset?
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>>739429908
I know about the one you're talking about and it's garbage gooner bait
I wanted an actual vanilla, putrid looking ghoulette companion with good dialogue and raspy voice
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>>739424634
Those people would die out the moment they don't get any gibs. Africa in it's entirety, is being kept alive artificially at this point.
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>>739429884
That kinda also is a thing in Fallout 1 but it's the worst in Bethesda Fallouts
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>>739429764
>>739429884
You tell 'em!
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>>739429991
>That kinda also is a thing in Fallout 1
In Fallout 1 bombs didn't fell 2 centuries prior, so no, it's not the same.
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>>739429764
and put it WHERE?
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>>739430086
Yes but it's still been almost 100 years and people still haven't fixed simple holes on their roofs, even in the supposedly rich areas
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>>739430086
>>739430245
It wouldn't take even half a century until people start building proper buildings again. 200 years ffs.
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>>739430284
Yes thats what I'm saying, it's already kind of a problem in Fallout 1 but it's far worse in the Bethesda games
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>>739430395
It's just shitty writing. The technology is there, the tools are there, the knowledge is there. And even resources like metal and stone are still there in abundant quantity.
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>>739430501
Yeah
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>>739418093
>post-post-apocalyptic living
not grim enough, nuke it and start over
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>>739430041
The interior of the middle building doesn't fit the exterior size AT ALL.

I think the hotel behind it at least had a few enterable floors before they eventually block off the stair cases and elevators from going further up.
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>>739430245
>Yes but it's still been almost 100 years
80 years, and the first settlement you stumble upon was built from scratch. No holes on the roofs, no dirt inside.
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>>739429221
Even worse you can enter at night so it still tries to do the little music jingle reveal when first entering but you just see a poorly lit brazilian slum in bad night time lighting lol
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>>739430603
but todd made it doe
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>>739429991
Fallout 1 literally has an adobe village be the first place you visit
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>>739418165
there's a mod that fixes that
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>>739430671
FNV is riddled with shit like this
You enter a shoe box and it's a whole ass pocket universe inside
Or the reverse, like in this building's case
A whole second floor that just doesn't exist inside
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>>739430796
Far Harbor my beloved
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>>739418093
>New Vegas mindbroke Todd so hard he actually added farms, irrigation and livestock to his wasteland slop
KEKAROO
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>>739430756
Yes it's been 84 years, so almost a hundred. Btw I was referring to the heights in The Hub. Which is the richest area in the biggest city in the west coast at this point in the timeline, and they haven't fixed the holes on their roofs.
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>>739431097
I mean that’s a good thing, it shows that they’re willing to learn from past mistakes, even if slightly
F4 world was way more believable to me than F3
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>>739424634
Not trying to defend this but realistically how do third world countries like this get rid of their garbage? They probably don't have the technology or infrastructure to do it in mass so is it just on the individuals who wont just burn it or something?
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Any good new nsfw mod packs?
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>>739431112
>I was referring to the heights in The Hub. Which is the richest area in the biggest city in the west coast at this point in the timeline, and they haven't fixed the holes on their roofs.
The city isn't rich. The Water Merchants are rich. And they have no intention to fix up the ruins they squat in. They haven't had much time to fix it up either even if they wanted to, IIRC the Hub grew out of the need to hide from raiders/mutants and those problem were "solved" only relatively recently.
We can see what happens just a few years after to former Shady Sands, and it doesn't degenerate to The Hub levels despite much higher wealth but instead it grows in new properly made infrastructure.
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>>739431097
is there a proof he hates FNV? i mean the shitty tv show is based mostly on new vegas
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>>739431425
He made a literal powerpoint presentation that he forced Obsidian devs to watch on everything wrong with New Vegas according to Avellone, the lead designer of NV.
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>>739431425
No not really but he's clearly retarded and doesn't understand Fallout
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>>739431425
FNV schizoids really do believe this yes
What they fail to realize is that buying New Vegas means the money goes to Bethesda
So they don't have any actual reason to hate it, it's just free money for them
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>>739431527
>Obsidian made a game so fucking buggy, broken and unfinished, Bethesda had to school them
Grim.
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>>739431425
>is there a proof he hates FNV? i mean the shitty tv show
Do you need more proof?
Before the show I was hesitant to believe he had any personal beef but after that slop was defended as 100% canon by Todd himself I can't seriously believe otherwise.
Other shitty tv shows aren't immediately defended as canon by the current IP holders, btw.
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>>739431657
>buggy, broken and unfinished
So, which was the studio responsible for playtesting?
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>>739431418
So why haven't the rich people of the city fixed the holes of the houses living in? Literally just put a board or plank on the roof and it's better than nothing.
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>Refuse to give your bosses the source code
>We'll never get a proper remaster/remake of New Vegas because of that because too much work when they already have to make fucking TES 6 and Fallout 5 at some point
Wow thanks Obsidian, you really showed them!
Now we are stuck forever playing their shitty buggy clunky fucking oblivion with guns forever with approximately 100 mods to make the game work as intended, unfinished Legion, unfinished everything (your only choices are bad fanfic mods)
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>>739431884
>the rich people of the city
They aren't actually rich but merely successful gangsters at best. The Hub is a slum. Real shocker, I know.
>Literally just put a board or plank on the roof
Where are they going to get that wood in the desert? No, best case scenario is buying scrap metal.
Give them a couple of decades and they're going to rebuild from scratch as we can see happening in other settlements in the sequel.
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Everytime i look at Fallout 4 the only thing i can think of is "Repulsive"
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>>739432025
>We'll never get a proper remaster/remake of New Vegas
Thank God.
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>>739418950
My two cents is that Bethesda's level and world design is overrated. Are they better than Obsidian in that aspect? I'd say yes, but not significantly so and I prefer Obsidian's take on open world philosophy over Bethesda's.
The one thing I can't stand about Bethesda's open words is that they're obsessed with level scaling. Fallout 3 didn't suffer from this too much, since a lot of the loot and enemies are hand placed, and it has tiered enemies, like Super Mutants turning into Brutes, Masters and Overlords the higher level you are. But it still had a lot of areas where the world leveled with your character automatically and it cheapened exploration because those level-scaled areas just felt soulless. But overall, it wasn't really too prevalent in FO3.
I utterly hate FO4 because the entire game map is level scaled. Areas that you clear constantly respawn with random enemies that don't make sense solely because you get to higher levels. Loot in the world also suffers from this, nothing but shitty pipe pistols in the entire map until you reach a higher level, then finally you can start getting some decent weapons, but they all have random effects for some reason. It really doesn't matter where I go in the world, or what I explore, the loot and enemies are all tied to my character's level and makes exploration feel artificial, nothing is unique. I view FO4 as a looter shooter, like Borderlands, not like an open world RPG. Obsidian has issues with making interesting locations, I gave them the benefit of the doubt in FNV because they had 18 months to make it, but PoE, Avowed and Outer Worlds have no safety net, those worlds are not that interesting to explore. But Obsidian's saving grace is that they make the world completely disconnected from your character's level. You can actually run into areas where you find a completely overpowered weapon, enemies that will decimate you, and loot that isn't randomized and fits the location that you're exploring.
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>>739432025
Oh man..
So all they had to do was to hand over the disc/usb drive containing the source code, and Bethesda would have handed them 10k bucks just like that
They couldn't even do that
Obsidian cannot finish a single thing to save their lives
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>>739432154
The Hub is the trading center and economic powerhouse of the wasteland at this point in time, and the water merchants is the biggest caravan company in said city, and their leader lives in the heights. So relative to everyone else at this time, yes he should be rich.
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>>739432025
>Todd lectures them on writing good stories and including RPG mechanics in an RPG, something Bethesda hates
>Obsidian withholds the source code and makes it impossible for Bethesda to butcher FNV with their radiant quest garbage and kindergarden level storytelling
Based.
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>>739432363
10k dollars is an absurdly small amount for the game's source code. And it was an option they could chosen, not a requirement. Obsidian probably saw the 10k offer, remembered the lack of bonus they got, and told Bethesda to fuck off.
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>>739432363
>Obsidian cannot finish a single thing to save their lives
Only thing they managed to finish was their transition.
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>>739432386
And yet they're still squatters who refuse to rebuild because being greedy fucks suits them just fine. The Water Merchants empires quickly collapses once the NCR gains more regional power exactly because they didn't have the foresight to build toward the future and were instead trapped into a scavenger mentality.
If they wanted to portray the Hub as a flourishing new town they would've done just that, they didn't lack the assets and they could've quickly made more.
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>>739424417
But the location in the F4 image was a garbage dump pre-war too
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>>739432641
And greedy suits in the biggest economic center of the wasteland wouldn't use their money to fund a life of luxury? I think clearly the more likely explanation is that it was a really minor thing and the devs just didn't bother with the little detail of a hole on their roof.
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>>739432790
>greedy suits
Anon, there's no corporate environment for those types to exists (yet).
They're just gangsters and mobsters who managed to secure pre-war water wells and containers.
The neighborhood they live in is safe due to the guards they employ and that's enough for them. They're not interested in civilization building, only wealth accumulation.
Also, it's unlikely that there is anyone but the Vault Dwellersâ„¢ capable of building something close to the pre-war ruins they squat in. Going from first two floors of a skyscraper built by professional pre-war to newly made metal shack (both building types exist in game) is a downgrade.
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>>739432504
How the fuck is it trans... HOW?!
>what brain extraction does to a person
Calling them lobotomites would be a compliment.
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>>739433187
>greedy suits
Sorry that was actually a misread. But yeah maybe they grew up in such a shithole like the hub all their lives that they think a decently big house for themselves is a life of luxury even if its run down and doesn't have a hole on the roof.
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>>739433361
*has a hole on the roof
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>>739425208
A part of me feels like the Legion is a bit out of place in the setting and even with full development it would have felt like an odd man out. Early fallout is almost sci fi in regards to the tech and everyone is largely building off of or emulating pre war stuff because it confers a massive advantage

I get that The Legion is trying to be "something else" but it's characters and history feel much less organic than almost every other faction, because it's overly reliant on the actions of Caesar for it's existence and culture.
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>decided to play it again
>crash
>remember why I stopped playing that bugged mess
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>>739432025
but cant you just use the geck to modify FNV files and stuff?
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>>739433580
Just use viva new vegas lil bro
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>>739433708
I played NV with the 4GB patcher and it still crashes often. Hopefully viva new vegas is different.
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>>739433708
Too much bloat
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>>739428589
How did Beth fuck up Starfield waifus so bad when they got it right in Fallout 4 waifus? What the fuck was beth thinking?!
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>>739417642
the biggest immersion breaker.

not one puerto rican, cuban, dominican or fucking portagee in the boston area survives?

not one puerto rican in a gaudy painted suit of armor blasting reggaton on a bluetooth speaker?

they will outlive the cockroach and ghouls. GAME FUCKING DROPPED
>>739418950
why doesnt the lone survivor go completely apeshit after what he has been through and his shell shock from the china war in alaska? if he was as hard as they tried and failed to make him he would have went full on punisher on everything in sight to find his son instead of running hither and yon saving settlements.
>>739424634
>indians
>people
pick one
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>>739433580
>>739433708
>>739433883
Its the .ini settings. I also used 4GB patcher on vanilla, but it also kept crashing. I still keep it vanilla. I have no idea what settings i altered though.
Also, there is an issue where the game will crash like a motherfucker. Happened to me when i was playing Honest Hearts. If you have that tribal chick with you, and you were at a certain stage in HH main quest (white legs spawning allover), your game will crash to hell because of her perk + sneak + white legs. Engine bug.
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>>739434285
>not one puerto rican, cuban, dominican or fucking portagee in the boston area survives?
Fallout portrays a post-nuclear 50s/60s America, not a 2026 America.
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>>739434809
Which is why it feels weird that the founder of the NCR was an Indian
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>>739434969
i'm indian village boy
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>>739434809
>Fallout portrays a post-nuclear 50s/60s America, not a 2026 America.
The bombs fell in 2077, not in the 1950s.
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>>739431425
I finally watched season 2 and it absolutely has no respect for anything from New Vegas lol. It just continues the trend of destroying the West Coast setting and letting Bethesda and Amazon do whatever they want with it.
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>>739434969
>>739435110
Jeet means victory
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>>739435110
i unironically redeem the ncr for she
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>>739435293
Cree Summer's voice is pure sex
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>>739435143
LMAO New Vegas troons are mad
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>>739435293
Fallout 2 whitewashed her
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>>739435193
Victory over what? Victory over the toilet witch?
congrats
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Fallout 5: New Louisiana
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I love Fallout 1.
I love Fallout 3.
I love Fallout New vegas.
I enjoy Fallout 4.
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>>739424876
>he thinks it's browns shitting on other browns and niggers
kek, what is this jewish psyop
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>>739435341
How's starfield going, little fella?
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>>739417642
>city
more like a village
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the show is pretty good
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>>739435653
Same but I also liked Fallout 2 despite it's flaws.
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>is the most boring dogshit ever made
i mean sure i like graham, but this whole dlc just highlights how bad obsidian is at doing open world and exploration
and the quests are not even good, just a couple of bullshit fetch quests, then end of dlc happens
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>>739435963
By videogame adaptation standards, yes. As a canon continuation of west coast Fallout, it's bad.
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>>739435963
would you sex with this ayylmao creature?
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>>739428589
butler tobot at least knows my name
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>>739436012
I like it but less than every other mainline entry. It's just so relentlessly goofy it breaks my immersion.
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>>739436095
Every time I replay NV this DLC tests my patience
Every time without fail
It's so fucking boring that it made me drop the game multiple times
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>>739436210
Yes
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>>739436095
If your favorite FNV DLC isn't Dead Money you're a tasteless casualized nigger. I fucking love how hostile the whole thing is, the atmosphere and tone are excellent and the what if endings are kino.
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>>739436363
And Fallout 3 isn't?
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>>739436210
I'll just use the old paper bag trick
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>>739436210
Todd Howard is a genius
This wouldn't have been possible without him
She's so weird looking yet so hot
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>>739436428
I love Dead Money as well, but I understand why people don't like it and it's rather reasonable as well.
It's rather obvious that the game engine isn't really built for survival horror and the DLC suffers for it. Also the devs misunderstanding how enemy detection works didn't help.
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>>739436428
It's just as boring IMO
All NV and 3's DLCs are fucking boring in fact
The first and only piece of good Fallout DLC content so far is Far Harbor, that's it
Just my two cents
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>>739436430
Are you retarded? Fallout 3 is tonally explicitly a sequel to Fallout 1. I don't have every random animal talking to me nor NPCs bringing up that this is a video game constantly (which was the final straw for me). No endless "funny" proto reddit humor quips. Literally every area in 2 is a parody of something or has a bunch of silly stupid shit in it. Which would be fine in moderation but there is none, the entire experience is like this. The devs themselves have admitted 2 is a fucking mess.
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>>739435432
Waow. Todd hire this man
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>>739436430
There are way too many things in Fallout 2 that are ruined by the writers not taking things seriously. San Francisco is the worst offender for me, because so much of the lore felt like it could have been genuinely interesting but is wasted by cheap references/parodies. That being said Fallout 3 does have dogshit writing.
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>>739433207
Um watch the video??? It explains everything sweetie.
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>>739435432
Too much water 7/10
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>>739433207
It just is
NV is a tranny game
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>>739437028
yeah crossing water in these games is kinda annoying
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>>739436210
No. I would rather have that >>739435963 Canadian piece of ass.
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>>739428589
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>>739433207
>fnv used to be an autistic white guy game
>all the autistic white guys troon out
>???
>fnv is trans
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>>739437218
btw, whenever you wonder why certain hobbies suddenly were overtaken by trannies, this is always the answer
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>>739428589
THEY'RE ALL CUTE!!!!!
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Genuine question but what is it about Fallout 4 or Fallout 3 that it wasn't able to have the same longevity as Skyrim?

I feel like Fallout 4 especially has better combat and equally shit writing. Keep in mind I don't hate Skyrim, i'm guilty of the same. I played Skyrim literally yesterday yet Fallout 4 has remainded uninstalled on my PC since it released in 2015. Is it because New Vegas just mogs both so there's not much point in playing them whereas Skyrim is the best TES (Morrowboomers need not reply, nobody cares about or plays that game)
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>>739436869
>if you are watching this video, congratulations, you are trans, whether you like that or not
>>739437107
No it is not. It has no such themes running through it, at all.
>>739437218
>implying
>>739437298
I dont believe it. I dont habeeb it. Dont "twinkie house" me about it either.

I seriously fail it see how of all the games with custom character creation, F:NV became "trans". There are no characters that are trans ffs. There are no themes that even remotely touch on trans theme. What the fuck. Is this that thing where one guy forced the meme so autistically that it became a thing?
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>>739437549
>Is it because New Vegas just mogs both so there's not much point in playing them
Yeah pretty much, although some people do play Fallout 4 for the mods
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>>739437553
I just explained it to you. You're right that there's nothing "trans" about FNV. All of their interests are downstream of their autism (and a tinge of porn addiction), which they mistake for "transness".
That's all there is to it. It's not deep.
Plus trannies have an existential need to have their identities constantly validated, lest they kill themselves. This is why the things they like can't just be things they like, they have to be trans things, parts of their identity.
The "[insert random character] is trans!" meme is another manifestation of this phenomenon.
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>>739429376
They eat noodles, like blade runner :)
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>>739438445
Jesus Christ...
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>>739436210
>>739436539
What did she mean by "cousin stuff"?
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>>739437196
I will now play your game
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>>739425525
What are all the mods I need to turn the game into an interactive version of vault meat-chan's adventures.
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>>739440791
kys
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>>739440791
Enjoy your vacation.
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>>739417642
Now property of The Enclave.
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>>739441123
no way fag
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>>739442861
>OUT OF EAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlB196DJv0
These muties can't even form sentences let alone a functional government. You deserve the power armored boot on your neck.
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>>739436210
>>739436539
cute little butt
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whats your favorite settlement? I'm digging building on the overpass of greygarden
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>>739443464
My current "main" settlement (with sim settlements 2) is at Sunshine Tidings co-op i like that it's pretty flat,
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>>739443464
why are you a pedophile
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me and my son lol
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>>739433576
They just never actually made an internal choice as to whether the legion were supposed to be orcs or a faction you would actually join unironically and it ended up shipping in that state
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>>739437549
Yeah that's cope
Fallout 4 has been massively successful, and even more so with the TV show
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>>739436363
I'm currently on my first playthrough and I'm a little disappointed by the constant pop culture references and your character having the personality of a witty comedian despite coming from a tribe.
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>>739448419
Yeah 2 and New Vegas are pretty much Rick and Morty in the desert
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Fallout 4 won't let me change the appearence of my companions' faces when i use the console command to do it. Is there a mod that lets me do it?
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>>739436210
fraid so
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>>739428030
Stalker is already Fallout, but with a heavier emphasis on survival and "realism". Fallout is more focused on quest lines, dungeons, and choices. Like an RPG is supposed to. I know someone will say F4 sucks as a game or RPG, whatever. But the point stands.

>>739431221
Waste and Garbage removal is actually a huge process. It's not that Africans can't or won't do it, there's definitely a lot of good souls willing to do so. It really isn't a simple answer, so you might want to look in to it. You got Politics of course. But also the poverty, manpower, and even the weather itself. You said just to burn it, but anything they burn is going to release toxic fumes. India already does this and it's literally so bad, cancers have skyrocketed from people breathing it in, and the winds will carry it further. Obviously the fire can spread as well. Some people make their living off of sorting through this trash as well.
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>>739436210
i'd eat her shit unironically
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>>739424417
>People living in garbage
But enough about New Vegas, I thought you were talking about Bethesda here.
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Play the guitar
Play it again
My Johnny
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>>739419205
>grindy
no, it's not grindy
>P2W
nope (pvp isn't even a thing really, anyways)
>MMO slop
you don't even need to interact with anyone if you don't want to
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>>739454606
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII WAS A ALWAYS A FOOL FOR MY JOHNNY
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fallout 76 is better
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LOL
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>>739454818
>>739454994
your shit game will always be shit
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>first gachas
>then fallout 4
what will /v/ start defending next?
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>>739455660
>/v/ trying to rewrite fallout 4's history as being the worst game ever made
will never not be funny
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The outfit system is awful to use.
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>no Assaultron wife
>no Deathclaw wife
Fuck this timeline.
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>>739427575
after how they changed power armor in Fallout 4, the NCRs salvaged armor seems like it would be impossible to make it work. Its so fucking huge, you wouldnt even be able to move inside it without all the servos and a power source.
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>>739417642
bump
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>>739461151
vanilla butts
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>>739428589
>download mod to romance curie while in robot form
>turn her into an assaultron
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>>739433207
>>739437107
It's popular among troons because the game is about political extremism and ideological battle. Political extremism is popular among autists. Autists are likely to become troons
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>>739454994
I wish I could port all the Fallout 76 content into Fallout 4
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>>739420717
Always bugged me they didn't use the space for terraced farming or something. Instead they have a small vegetable garden to feed 1000 people.

>>739428589
>Curie
Ridiculously pretty, but I liked her better as my best friend.

>Cait
I initially only recruited her to speedrun the companion perk by doing a bunch of chems and alcohol. I thought I was done with my "I can fix her phase," but she grew on me.

>Piper
Never really used her.
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>>739434809
nigger, they were INFESTING new england and american cities in the 50s
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>>739462148
>the game is about political extremism and ideological battle.
by forces that would enslave and or kill the trannies out of hand and never think about how they killed a man in a dress afterwards.

SOUNDS TRMENDOUSLY TRANSFRIENDLY TO ME
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>>739463961
>The only political extreme is the legion
stop being retarded
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>>739428589
Who has the hairiest armpits and biggest bush?
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>>739464048
lol, the NCR would shoot trannies for making a hard life harder and not shutting the fuck up, and everyone else would have zero patience for such stupid shit. same with everyone else.
>>739465267
piper, she uses it to carry her crabs everywhere so she always has a snack,.
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Does Fallout 4 have good sex mods?
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>>739419179
>>739419487
>pay to win multiplayer slop
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>>739417642
>mantella still not updated for the ae version
Unplayable.
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>>739428589
Piper because she looks most like Nora



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