>A massive sell off started today after China's graphics cards failed to meet expectations with reviews showing the cards being over 10 years out of date compared to their competition There goes your Nvidia competition
>>739419104Anyone betting against Nvidia/TSMC is a retard. Only Taiwan has the ability to make chips at scale with high quality. >American chipsToo expensive because Americans expect to work less and get paid more>Chinese ChipsChina is too corrupt and all of its tech is based on copying western tech so it will always be out dated.
whoa dude you're totally not obsessed with this 2nd thread of the same exact topic
>>739419104This shit takes time. Remember Intel?
how come the US market is the only one that has 15%+ days?
>>739419182>Remember Intel?You mean the company that crashed and burned?
>>739419139What the fuck are you talking about? All these photolithography machines these fabs use are from ASML, a dutch company. Nobody else is able to make advanced machines like this. It's not Asian tech and it's not American tech either.
>>739419245America has access to ASML fabs and yet can't compete.
>>739419183Because the US is the one printi g the money and coin clipping every dollar in existence across the globe. The ones who get the freshly printed petromonopolybux are the ones who get to keep their place while everyone else gets clipped and whipped like a bitch.
>>739419253Because they chose not to. They could simply buy them if they wanted.
>The LX 7G100 is expected to cost around 3,300 RMB, or roughly $480. That is too high when compared with GeForce RTX 4060-class cards, used RTX 30-series cards, or even Intel Arc B-series options. Chaowanke’s results show that 3DMark performance can look close in some tests, but real games does far worseChinese are really good at faking benchmarks to get investment money. They did the same with DeepSeek
>>739419292>Because they chose not to.Not true. America has been trying for years to make their own Chip fabs in Arizona yet it is severely behind schedule and over priced.
>>739419139lol americans aren't more expensive than TSMC engineers at all, they're grossly overpaid in taiwan.
>>739419104Biggest giveaway is Chinese customers refusing to buy the cards.
Eve will come
>>739419316>TSMC employees make on average $3000 a month>In America they would be making $10,000 a month MINIMUMYeah, sure thing
>>739419330That's my wife. Stop posting her
>>739419316>In Taiwan (including the Hsinchu/Zhubei area), the median total annual compensation for a TSMC engineer is approximately NT$2,350,000 (roughly US$72,000)That's literally less than a jeet working in california vibe coding.
>>739419242they pulled a 30% increase with aislop cpu tech. it's not over for them yet.
>>739419352No, she has a Polish husband
>>739419309What's the problem?
Chinese cards are a meme until the 2030s at minimum. Now stop making identical cope threads daily.
>>739419376Americans aren't willing to do the work required to make chips. You need guys with PHDs willing to work 12 hour days in complete clean rooms with exact specific instructions where doing literally anything wrong ruins thousands of dollars of product. In America if you have a PHD you are going to be doing fun stuff like lab research.
>>739419413What's OP coping about? Did he think Chinese cards would be good?
>>739419413>Chinese cards are a meme until the 2060s at minimumFixed
>>739419376Americans.That's why BASED MAGA conservatives have to import millions of Indian and Chinese H-1B geniuses to compete, they're calling their own voters fat and retarded.
>>739419465>RetardedNo, Americans actually have something called work life balance. Most humans that aren't Asians aren't willing to work 996.
>>739419170Last one was ruined by an asshurt Chinese guy spamming hundreds of images.
>>739419139China does not have the fabs nor the designers to compete you fucking retard
>>739419465Forgot pic >>739419456Depends on if Huawei can scale their lithographer prototype for mass production. If they can, they'll shit out current gen tier cards with more RAM in the 30s and only be a few years behind cutting edge. If not, it'll take way longer.
>>739419139>always be out datedThey're literally ahead of the world in video gen and robotics right now>inb4 but funny robot failsNow lets see those in other countries. Oh right there aren't any robots outside of controlled environments and curated youtube videos in other countries
>>739419437Nah, he's making these threads daily to have an excuse to shit on the Chinese. This baits others into coming to shit on the Americans. Then it devolves into 400 replies of /pol/faggot bullshit and jannies don't do anything.
>>739419562>Depends on if Huawei can scale their lithographer prototype for mass production.They pretty much gave up. Most of their modern phones literally just use smuggled Nvidia chips in them now. If you buy a Huawei phone in 2026 it's literally just using Taiwanese chips that they bought from Vietnam.
>>739419373Youve been sleeping past year?
>>739419615Then make better cards. Problem solved.
>>739419628Meant for>>739419242
>>739419613>robotics right nowThat is Japan followed by South Korea than America. Just because China does more flashy demos doesn't change it.
It will improve
>>739419670Yes but so will India's as well. They will improve but always legging behind.
How many weeks status?
>>739419715Until good Chinese cards? Probably at least 2
>>739419627You're confusing the fabs they use for products they sell right now like the Ascend cards, and their EUV prototypes, the latter don't produce anything commercially, and it's not supposed to for half a decade. It's a waiting game.
>>739419662>That is Japan followed by South Korea than AmericaAbsolutely delusional. Even if you were comparing behind closed doors demos from Japan/SK/US with real mass produced robots out in the wild in China, China would still be ahead. And we all know none of those countries will be able to actually produce robots at scale even if their controlled demos were any good
>>739419104>tfw running a 15 year old graphics cardawesome give me one
>>739419685They just have to be good enough for a cheap price, you think the average gamer is going to be able to afford a 7080 or whatever model exists by then? Nobody cares about dick measuring contests of "muh country best in da world in X or Y"
>>739419746Why are you lying? You are a Wumao shill aren't you?
>>739419792China can't do a cheap price because of their low yield. China doesn't have good ASML machines. The reason Chinese chips are worthless is because of the low yield rate. You can make a graphics card but how many of the microchips you prodocue will actually be functional? In Taiwan it is 80%, in china it is 20% so for the same effort Taiwan gets 4 times as many Chips. That is why Taiwans are cheaper.>Can't China just up the yield rateThey would have to improve their quality. Chinese are known for cheap low quality goods, not high quality goods. In the case of graphics cards high quality actually leads to lower prices.
>>739419746Chink robots are shit. They can perform pre-programmed actions like dancing or doing flips but are shit at dynamic scenarios which are actually needed in industry.
>>739419746Found the CCP plant
>>739419907>China doesn't have good ASML machinesThat's why the entire point is about working on creating similar machines with a domestic supply chain. If that won't happen then it doesn't matter.
>>739419253They are fat, stupid and all kinds of brown. American cars don't sell either for the same reason, the innovation is dead and what's left are a bunch of lazy goyim.
>>739419792If you can make an qequivalent to something like a 3080 (a 6yo card) for $300 I will take it.>but muh backdoorI don't give a shit if they want to spy on me playing pirated coomer games.
>>739419104eveytime i hear about chinese cards its always sales and stocks but never specs or a demonstrationshow me how crysis runs on a chinese card, thats literally all i care about
>>739419364NTA, but that salary is indeed considered overpaid in Taiwan. A typical factory worker in Taiwan only earns like $950 USD per month
>>739419853>density Duh, countries with very specialized high value added industry with fewer workers involved will have more automation in relative terms, but not absolute. Chinese industry makes a ton of shit, and employed way more people, so the automated car factories are diluted by the cloth weaving and plastic crap injection moulding. Although most of the low tech high labour industry is sent to Vietnam these days.
>>739420052Those are for Indonesian workers. That is why it is in English. Indonesians get paid below Taiwanese minimum wage.The average Taiwanese still earns well by Asian standards.
>>739419104marge he made another thread about something he doesn't understand again
>>739420068Yes, Wumao cope. Just what I was waiting for.
>>739420068>Top Robots companies on earth>Boston Dynamics (all-electric Atlas), Figure AI (Figure 02), Tesla (Optimus), Agility Robotics (Digit), and the "Big Four" industrial manufacturers: FANUC, ABB, KUKA, and YaskawaHow many of these are chinese?
>>739420052>Posting a Filipino application (literally states Pesos) as to what Taiwanese earnChinese Wumaos are getting desperate aren't they?
>>739420087NT$29.500 is the Taiwan minimum wage...
>>739420031They have garbage software and driver support because they're gimmicks by C tier companies trying to create hype. Maybe in some years, if Chinese silicon gets better, a big player like Xiaomi will put their name on a card and offer driver support, but until then stay away.
>>739420146>>739420052>A filipino in a Taiwanese factory is still earning 4x the Chinese minimum wage
>>739420117>top robot companies>Boston Dynamicslmfao what, which LLM told you this? Maybe, 15 years ago but it was ruined by Google, not even DARPA contracts could save them.
>>739419104Only normies and boomers buy into the China meme of their Ai dominance. Nvidia hardware is comfortably ahead of AMD, let alone whatever RTX 4060 tier GPU China makes.Technically they can lead in some areas since they don't have to worry (as much) about copyright materials when they train their models.
>>739420178The point is that the wages of TSMC engineers are considered very high
>>739420247>Nvidia hardware>AMD hardwareneither of these corporations make hardware
>>739420217In terms of scale the big 4 areFANUC, ABB, Yaskawa, and KUKAAll Japanese or Korean.China wowed you with some shitty video of robots dancing didn't they?
>>739420307>Graphics cards aren't hardware
>>739420329They don't make graphics cards. They design them and offer software support. The chips are made by TSMC and the cards assembled by third party hardware manufacturers. 99% of Nvidia's value is CUDA.
>>739420413I guess Sony and Nintendo make hardware either. You are arguing technicalities.
>>739419374they divorced and the union went unconssumated
>>739420413>>739420307It doesn't matter if they are the ones literally constructing it. They have the best hardware. Their designs are the best.
>>739420317I never said anything about those, I interjected to laugh at Reddit Dynamics.
>>739419139>American chips>Too expensive because Americans expect to work less and get paid moreAnon, TSMC already opened a factory in Arizona and it's already making output.
>>739420884yes and its been seen as a failure. Such a failure that it is now several years behind and the chips produced cost more and this is AFTER they fired all their American staff and hired Taiwanese.
>>739420317kuka is owned by midea group, a chinese conglomerate
>>739420950What the fuck are you talking about? Several years behind in what sense? It's making the most advanced American chips. How the fuck is it a failure when it's literally making the chips? Can you stop getting your news from Pakistan?
>>739420972>KUKA AG is a German manufacturer of industrial robots and factory automation systems.Chinese recently buying it doesn't make it a Chinese accomplishment or we would call all Western games published by Tencent as Chinese games.
>>739420972>Company has been in Germany for the last 130 years b-but a Chinese person owns shares in itCome on now. This is the best China can do?
CHING PANG DUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *explodes*
>>739421093okay but then kuka was german, not japanese or korean. ABB is swiss/swedish, not japanese or korean.
>>739420413You're a genuinely dumb nigger. I've seen so much of this third-world talking point that somehow literal American IP and design and the ONLY reason these fabs have business is not American.
Since when is this news? Its common knowledge that China doesn´t have competitive gaming GPUs, I´m guessing their ´AI´ GPUs are even less competitive.
>>739419139I don't know why people memoryholed when Intel used to be the top fab. They fell behind when they got stuck on 14nm+++++++. But they hit 14nm class way before anyone else.
Red is good in china
>>739421308There were months where faggots where spamming threads about these amazing upcoming Chinese computer parts that will save us and destroy the west.Now they released and.......
But 2026 China superpower!?
>>739421479Sorry we meant 2027. This time for sure!
>>739421432You mean to tell me people hype shit up just for the meme of it? Zamn, remember when melon told us we would be on mars two years ago? Turns out people are full of shit and manipulating the markets so they can lure in retail investors and have them hold the bag.
Wumao bros don’t look…
>>739421542If shills are going to come here and shill their upcoming slop as the next coming of Christ, people are going to come here and laugh at it when it flops.
>>739419104if intel managed to close the gap with its arc slop series I would bet my balls chinks will be 1:1 with the rtx4080 within 12 months. jensen knows that as well and is afraid.
I need to visit Taiwan again before it gets invaded by commies
>>739421432>about these amazing upcoming Chinese computer partsI don't know who you are talking about, but I always said that it would take another decade at least. "Chinese" computer parts have been releasing for years and are always undercooked shit, as I also said.
Every other day we had to deal with constant Chink shill threads about their amazing hardware. I'm happy it flopped just because the shilling was so annoying. Vid related, what happens on /v/ daily now.
>>739421601Jensen doesn´t give af about the gaming GPUs, AI is where the money is at.
>>739421907>Sell 1 graphics card to one incel for $300or>Sell 100 graphics cards to some jew for $1000Sorry, just business
>>739419104Death to china.
>>739421946You can't sell products that don't actually produce any value with make believe money forever.
>>739419104Life to the Celestial Kingdom.
>>739421847Chinks do more damage to online discourse than jeets, but /v/ is not ready for that conversation.
>>739419291Based poster who knows that we work currency that they print at will, which is why you stack gold and silver.
>>739421907I know that. nvidia doesn't even mention gaming segment in its financial reports anymore, it has become so small and insignificant compared to data centers and AI chips. china already trains its AI models with homemade chips and some smuggled ones from nvidia or they do some of the training in other countries where they can buy unlimited nvidia cards. but jensen is afraid that china will catch up and will become the number one choice for AI chips by 2030, it's absolutely doable. I only phrased it around gaming GPUs because we're on /v/,
>>739421963>You can't sell products that don't actually produce any value with make believe money forever.
>>739419628>this AI company with a manufacturing plant and headquarters in Israel is doing well praise the GDP (goys per dollar)Get in the oven
>>739419104Honestly 10 years out of date sounds perfect. First world gamers who want to spend thousands to play shit that looks worse than a random game from 2013 can have their slop. And everyone else can enjoy the games made at the level of....*checks notes*....2016
>>739419104I laugh every single time I hear about how China is somehow competing with the West.It ends the same every single fucking time. And you know you're only hearing about it in the first place because someone needs a reason to feel better about their small peen, but they just humiliate themselves further lmao
>>739422290>It ends the same every single fucking timeBought a car lately?
>>739419245>>739419253americans did the principle research for the techniques well before ASML even existed and they provided the necessary investment to get the entire operation off of the ground lolthe current asml r&d is located in california
>>739419139Chip manufacturing is fucked in the sense that it's 24/7 factory line work, but every chip takes days of work and one fuckup is costly so you can't just have retards manning the plant.
>>739419364And its like half the salary of an Australian standing around a construction site holding a shovel and looking at his phone while drinking an iced coffee with 3x the caffiene of a red bull.
>>739421963>You can't sell products that don't actually produce any valueJust because you don't like AI slop doesn't mean it doesn't have value. Every time an indonesian kid clicks on an AI generated video or every time an old man is tricked by AI to give his entire live savings to some jeet thanks to AI, AI has created monetary value.
>>739422239Here's the thing. Chinese cards don't have driver support for old games. Only modern slop. So it is literally the worst of both worlds.
>>739420068Chinks have stayed to do devious shit in the clothing industry now like building sweatshops in Italy and flying in chink workers because that way they can get a made in Italy tag.
>>739419104Why do you lie OP?
>>739419139>China is too corrupt and all of its tech is based on copying western tech so it will always be out dated.retarded. you're a joke.
>>739422481Can you believe those lollipop girls are making more than junior doctors, and half of an actual doctors salary.>>739422327I only drive European cars, I don't like ANTS or dying in a hunk of chinesium
>>739419853>https://ifr.org/ifr-press-releases/news/global-robot-demand-in-factories-doubles-over-10-years"China is by far the world’s largest market in 2024, representing 54% of global deployments. The latest figures show that 295,000 industrial robots have been installed - the highest annual total on record."China deployed more industrial robots in 2024 than the rest of world combined. I'm tired of you fucking braindead copers.
>>739422634What’s not true about that?
>>739422647the australian government paid for more med student places but didn't force the medical cartel (medical colleges) to make more room for specialities. of course, the average GP salary will drop like a stone because shittons of med students are being pumped in, but none of them can specialise into any speciality that isn't GP because of the medical cartel (medical colleges) refusing to train anyone to protect their own salaries.
>>739422761Because its bullshit.
>>739422634Oh no chinky chinky is having a melt down. Inb4 hundreds of seething posts similar to this
>>739422634Notice how chinks can't firm arguments. All they can do is seethe and throw insults like a jeets?
>>739422789Wow this random image to totally changes chink gpus from being shit that being amazing!
>>739419940things I hate are lies I choose to believe. Sure they are capable of things that I am forced to admit and concede on but will choose the right words that downplay it as much as humanly possible, but they are actually under a scenario I came to in a dream that matches the aforementioned lie that soothes my bruised ego and fits my distorted worldview.
>>739422789Yes chinks mass produce low quality cheap trash. It's still too low quality and corrupt to do chips
>>739422995Of course they're shit. If they get good it'll be years from now, you're a fool if you buy one today.
>>739423006Not an argument, only chink seething
>>739422789This image has proved me wrong. China is renowned for for reporting stats truthfully. I yield.
The only way chinks will be able to produce good graphics cards is the f they take over Taiwan but we both know they can't
>>739423064I'm not willing to argue with you. I just wanted to point out a common troon pattern of rhetoric I've been seeing.
>>739423091ASPI is Australian ya moron
>>739422789>AI>ChinaYeah whatever, the deepseek CEO spewing some lectures about anthropic but their chinky AI can't even compete with claude
>>739423135Sorry chang. Better luck next century
He won
>>739423174seething
>>739423159Reminder China was caught lying about Dee seeks abilities too but retards belied them
>>739423231Yes I am seething. I wish Chinese cards were good because then I could buy some cheap gpus but they aren't and no amount of shilling will change this
>>739423225chang lost and his cunt is now run by blue hairs. truly asia's franco.
>>739422995>>739423091Source:https://www.aspi.org.au/report/critical-technology-tracker/>Wow this random image to totally changes chink gpus from being shit that being amazing!The point is that Chinese don't just copy anymore. The Chinese are maybe 4-5 years away from building their own EUV machine and eventually they'll catch up and even overtake the West.>>739423159I agree that the US is still ahead in AI, by 3-8 months. Doesn't mean that Chinese models cannot get better.
>>739423231You said China was the leader of robots. You got proven wrong and now you are crying like a child
>>739419104My AMD stock is up 100% since I bought it 3 months ago.
>>7394233042 more weeks
>>739423159Claude can't power my elf impregnation RPG roleplay so who cares
>>739423286Taiwan is the greatest country in Asia while China right s third world. He won
>>739419139>Anyone betting against Nvidia/TSMC is a retard. Only China has the ability to make chips at scale with high quality.>China is too corrupt and all of its tech is based on copying western tech so it will always be out dated.Are you retarded?
>>739423330Did I say "2 more weeks", retard?
>>739423304Chinese can only make low quality mass produced shit. Your image proves it
>>739423308I didn't say that.>>739423281the only kind of person who would shill chinashit are journos and ecelebs looking to grift or shitposters looking for easy ragebait. it'll get good when it gets good.
>>739423367He said Taiwan. Not shit hole China
>>739423381Which is pretty much never
>>739423367RoC can make good cardsCCP can't
>>739423358no he was literally ousted and his cuck party is irrelevant
Tick tock amerisharts.
>>739423368Yes you did.
>>739423379No it doesn't, and the Chinese are already ahead in developing novel drugs.
>>739423436Taiwan is the greatest country in Asia while China is a third world shit hole He won
>>739423453Yes Chinese are great and manipulating data
>>739423453Chinese are famous for paper mills. The reality is they are still far behind
>>739423453Yes Chinese are known for quantity not quality
>>739419104Is this why the Chinese are spamming the board?
>>739423492>>739423517You are coping. It is not a natural law that the West will always be ahead of China.
>>739423436And yet Taiwan is a paradise on earth and the most important piece of land on earth
>>739423550It is unless China stops being corrupt and low trust
>unironic Kai-shek posting>when Taiwanese themselves call him an incompetent retardI had some doubts, thanks for clarifying this is bait
>>739423576just retarded americans.
>>739423550No argument. Only wumao seethe
>>739423576>>739423584The 3 principles of the people
>>739423576>>739423584>Hitler wasn't based because germans don't like him!He was literally right. Both him and Shek
>>739423576Shek really makes Chinese seethe doesn't he?
>>739419139>Too expensive because Americans expect to work less and get paid moreAs God intended
>>739423663Of course. His government turned Taiwan into paradise on earth while the ccp turned China into a live leak factory
>>739423587That is the way you act. I post statistics from the real world and you people always say they must be a lie because China simply cannot be ahead. It's ridiculous.
>>739423584They're not subtle about it
>>739423709Here's the stats. Chinese graphics cards are shit. Same for Chinese robotics.China can't produce cards because it is too corrupt. Most of the money going to card production in China is government funded scams. Making shitty low quality trash won't change this
>>739423730Last thread a chang was seething for 100 posts about their shitty cards
>>739423709Wow Chinese make ships so their graphics cards aren't shit!
>>739423743Also all chink game trailer you saw is mostly a rugpull scam
>>739423743>Same for Chinese robotics.No, they are the world leader in robotics. In 2024 they deployed more industrial robots than the rest of the world combined.
The chang keeps spamming images unrelated to graphics cards in a desperate attempt to save his social credit score
>>739421963As long as the tax money is rolling in they can keep grifting.
>>739423820Bo that's korea, Japan and Germany as shown earlier in the thread but you started seething about this fact
>>739423453I thought chinks were supposed to be smart. How do they look at the graph on the right and see nothing wrong with it
>>739423820You said this earlier on the thread and got btfo. Pathetic
>>739423820Well numbers alone don't reflect their robotics quality. I remember one chink journo praised their own driverless car system then invited to test tesla one, he had to admit tesla one still ahead of chinese system
>>739423348I mean it can, but it would cost way more than dipsy
>>739423898Top robots companies are all in Europe, Japan, korea or to a lesser extent America. In density of robots China trails behind as well. Chinese cope is funny
>>739423849>>739423874>https://ifr.org/ifr-press-releases/news/global-robot-demand-in-factories-doubles-over-10-years"China is by far the world’s largest market in 2024, representing 54% of global deployments. The latest figures show that 295,000 industrial robots have been installed - the highest annual total on record."
>>739423931Wow the country with the most people has the most stuff. Japan, korea and Europe produce the best robots with the most density. Chinese cope is hilarious
>>739423931Wow I guess India is the best food producer because they eat the most. Retarded ass logic.
Reminder that chinese population at most is 400-500 million and not about 1 billion as their guvment said
>>739423709>the world's industrial slave and deliveryman that needs a ton of boats to export all the massive quantities of cheap crap their economy relies on builds the most boatsw-woah
>>739423931Chinese pretending quantity= quality again
>>739423984>Wow the country with the most people has the most stuff. Nigeria>>739424002If one country eclipses the rest of the world in robotics then IMO that is a big deal and should be taken seriously by it's competitors. I must be crazy though.
>>739424101Yes China and Nigeria are pretty similar
>>739424101Yes Japan, korea and Germany eclipse the world in robotics quality
>>739422427i thought chip production was automated, and chip production was gatekept by lack of access to very restricted and rare machines
>>739424023>the world's industrial slave and deliverymanDumbass cope. The rest of the world depends on Chinas manufacturing, retard.
>>739423931>India continues to grow with a record of 9,100 units installed in 2024 – up 7%. The automotive industry was the strongest driver with a market share of 45%. In terms of annual installations, India ranks sixth worldwide, one place up behind Germany.Careful bro. You're 2 years away from losing your superpower status to the true heirs of Ming.
>>739424124Obviously not.>>739424142Source? You do not have one because you made it up.
>>739419139Technically they're all American chips because the only silicon of high enough quality to make them comes out of the states.
>>739424101China has the same standard of living as Brazil. Isn't that funny?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTGwcHQfLYhttps://youtu.be/yw_dT1WgQQgamericans genuinely don't understand how fucked they really are
>>739424209It was already posted in the thread. Please stop seething and coping chang
>>739424179>hmph we sell you shit that costs 30 bucks when built by a human for 5 cents because we like it not because we need to whatever helps you sleep at night tsun-tsun
>>739424250Fucked by bwc craved Chinese women
>>739424179Because the chink can be whipped to work. Hell i remember one of my colleague said that if you open factory in china you don't need to worry about labour because the chinese government will provide it one way or another
>>739424250>I can't sell a novelty strainer, america has fallen
video games definitely
>>739424240They're close in GDP per capita but China is far ahead of Brazil in manufacturing, STEM research, and so on. >>739424258link it>>739424275Yeah totally. And you know China has a stranglehold on rare earths, right?
>>739424309>can't sellyou didn't watch the videohe was back ordered for like two years, getting anything done in america is basically impossible
What causes this level of Chinese derangement syndrome? It can't be their neighbours since those countries don't post here. Is it Americans? Why?
>>739424378had a stranglehold on rare earths*you've used that paper threat too many times and countries are already looking for their own sources. you're the industrial center of the world because it's more convenient having everything in one place and only having to negotiate with one party for bulk purchases, not out of necessity.
>>739424474>you've used that paper threat too many times and countries are already looking for their own sources.And it will take years until those new refining plants are operational. >you're the industrial center of the world because it's more convenient having everything in one place No, it's because the West chose greed over national interests. >only having to negotiate with one party for bulk purchases, not out of necessity.See above.
>>739424440Your constant spergouts are entertaining. You can bash on any other country and you won't ever get the same nuclear levels of chinese butthurt. Every throwaway shitpost gets an overblown reaction from some guy desperately googling for journalist articles.
>>739424554you're agreeing with me and you're too retarded to notice
reminder that chinksects are not human beans lmao
>>739419104isn't all that shit pretty incremental? as in, you cannot just skip 10 steps of the development process but kinda need to work your way up meticulously unless someone simply lets you buy their tech?give it a few more years and they can probably build something that's competitive at least for the mid range. just look at smartphones, it was the same there. went from being chinkshit but cheap to being pretty much identical with the rest for Huawei and Xiaomi.competition is good for the end consumer, too.
>>739419104>aiiieeee my speculative values of being able to flip government-backed debt to increase my own personal imaginary value!! The world is ending if I don't get my percentages up at least two percentiles within the following 90 planetary rotations!
>>739419376corruption.it's not wages, these processes are mostly automated, and the few specialists you need are expensive as shit no matter where you set up your factory.you simply have too many rent seeking parasites in the US (and Western nations in general) who'll hold their hand open at every step of the way and you need a bazillion forms to be approved, every single one of them expensive as shit with a months to years long process to get them approved.that's where most of the non-competitiveness comes from. the worker wages are negligible, it's the massive rent-seeking bureaucracy that ruins everything.
>>739424669I don't buy americrap either.
Fuck the imperialist evil west I hope you faggots fucking crash and burn. China will save gamers and make gaming affordable again, american goys and mossad agents can suck my dick.
>>739424776it's not even true anyway, kekif you pull up some random china index like the iShares MSCI China, it did +30% within the last yearsomething more global like the MSCI ACWI IMI "only" did 27.5%the S&P500 did ~29%, +-1% depending on which specific index you pick.it's all more or less the same.
>>739419104>10 years out of datebut geforce 1080 is a good card I don't see the problem
>>739422161>NOOOOOO IT ONLY COUNTS WHEN I POST CHARTS NOT YOU DELETE THISSSSSSSSSSS
>>739421093> or we would call all Western games published by Tencent as Chinese games.You literally already do this. Can't discuss Epic games, BG3 or riot games without some idiot saying they're all CCP games.
>>739424590>poopdickschizo meltyI just opened the thread
>>739423041>Of course they're shit.Oh? And why is it so obvious that they were going to be shit?
>>739423152It's really funny how NOBODY goes to india except indians
I keep forgetting how one-note and predictable the CCP shills can be.
>>739419540Huh, I thought they were #1 though.
>>739419376Chip fabrication is extremely sensitive to unforeseen factorsStuff like the american greasy diet could impact chip quality, let alone actual processes. Plus why the fuck would the taiwanese want to help the US in stealing their most valuable export which is the only thing protecting them from chinese annexation?
>>739423368You might as well, for all the good you are accomplishing here.
>>739423550>it's not... LE FAIRNow THIS is seething.
>>739419170The previous thread wasn't full of people who agreed with him. That's how you do it. If people push your shit in, abandon thread or delete it and repost until everybody else gets bored and you can suck yourself off alone in your own thread. This is the same thing as Musk's moment from 15 years ago when he mocked BYD and today BYD's the leader in electric vehicles or the Biden moment from 3 years ago when they banned china from advanced chip technology only for them to release a 7nm phone, which left everybody else with their jaws on the floor because the chinese weren't supposed to make the jump to 7nm in only two years, it should have taken them at least a decade or more.And now they're making graphics cards that are on par with gtx660, which can nevertheless play all the old great games you still play without issues, but cannot play the recent sloppa or liveservice. Just wait 2 more years then, then collect your 1080 equivalent or 4-5 more years to get your RTX30 series equivalent because this shitty chinese gfx card is proof that they can also make video cards. It's only going to get better from now on.>The surprise launch of the Huawei Mate 60 Pro in August 2023 was a masterclass in political theater, deliberately timed to upstage U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo’s high-profile diplomatic visit to Beijing. The release sent shockwaves through global markets by signaling a major breakthrough in China's technological resilienceNow watch this thread also be abandoned by the clown who made it because of this post.
Finna get me a chinky PC in 3 gens
>>739419170>2nd thread of the same exact topicIt's the 5th or 6th thread this week actually
>>739420950You're just making shit up retard
>>739422634As a consumer we've been hearing about this shit for over a decade. Put up or shut up.
>>739426374the chinese accelerate so the next card release will be rtx 2000 series power level
>>739426697>the chinese accelerateThey're using AI the same way westerners use AI to design engines. Have you seen this shit? Looks alien, like the designs in The Last Element movie from 97'. So these days AI does the work and tells you what to build and how.
>>739426374doesn't matter because midwits will fall for it but lurkers that are genuinely interested on topic will mind filter the schizo babble and pay attention on post that provide verifiable claims
I find funny how only china can produce high end cpus and gpus now.Not america, not europe.Island china.And then retards are like...mmm.... island chinks can make high quality shit, unlike mainline chinks...chinks btfo china, or algo.Call me when a non chinese nation starts making chips then, faggot.
At least China's economy isn't doing as bad as America's. Remember, the stock market is not the economy.
>>739427256i can make them in my basement. just need a few volunteers to come over and do some work for me.
>>739426974That's true.
>graphics cards are being manufactured for the sole purpose of keeping the american stock market green by any means necessarythis is bad for me as a gaymer tho, why should i support this?
