being a game dev is suffering
there is literally nothing stopping all the laid off undesirables from grouping together, make an actual good game and become rich. oh wait there is, the fact they can't produce anything of worth
No. Being a "corpo" game dev is.
They should unionize.
I immediately went and looked up an update from Byf. Yeah. He's pretty shaken I think. He talks about immediately revamping his Patreon and worries about what he'll do.Not that I have seen any of his slop in years, but this is sad.
>>739420908WELCOME... TO SPACEGUARD
>>739420171>make 300 pages long manifesto update called "the final update">somehow don't know development is about to end????
>>739420171it's like any other industry. the people at the bottom doing the actual work have zero idea what decisions are made at the top
>>739420521fpbp
>>739420171how come its always the wokest companies doing the worst stuffcurious
>>739422767It's honestly how the industry has slowly gotten worse and worse. We talk so much lack of sovl and lazy developers, but so much of it is just pure talent attrition. The mindset that "everybody is replaceable" and laying off legacy staff to replace with cheap labour.But a lot of it also tends to happen on the back of actual failure. It is just par for the course of how the financial system works that there's never an incentive to fail, and then learn from mistakes and improve. Failures have to be recouped immediately, or be given lipservice while you chase the next dragon. And it's how games end up getting worse and worse with time.
>>739420908Most of their own work and style would be copyrighted. The cost of working for money/publishers. Your soul no longer belongs to you.
>>739420908People become cogs in the AAA machine for security. You join a big company, you trust the higher-up decision making processes and the sheer budget offsetting the bad calls. Going indie (without connections, like E33 developers had) means you're playing the same gamble as the tiny bedroom developers and that's anything but security.
>>739422767>the people at the bottom doing the actual work have zero idea what decisions are made at the topCorrect, because they are employed for other tasks and as part of the central control function. That's why they are not consulted when company wide decisions are made and not eligible for deeper company information.>>739420908Personal risk.
>>739420908funny coming from chuds that literally never produced anything worthwhile in history, all you can do is seethe and whine at normal people creating art and spreading their message and shaping culture.name one chud coded successful media project (movie, game, whatever)
>>739422763Pic related is how Destiny's dev team is structured. Lots of different groups working on different things at the same time. Presumably only one of these little teams knew what was going on, and even then maybe not all of them. And of course nobody working on Marathon would have known about it either
>>739420908Do you know how crazy you sound, going independent isn't something you decide on a whim
>>739420171Has Bungie and Sony tried to make fun games that aren't for faggots?
>>739420171Officialy? Any faggot working there would have seen the writing on the wall when they started marathon
>>739420171"almost all" but the ones that did know didn't even let a hint of any kind, open to work on LI would have been enough of a subtle sign. "the corporate family" strikes againalso devs are incredibly well paid, we are talking six figures per year, unfathomable amount of money.even more, Bungie is a big name on your CV, the trolling on this board is irrelevant, it's easy to get hired.
>>739420171I think if you went out of your way to be a game dev and then settled on being a disposable cog in a malfunctioning constantly collapsing machine I don't really know what the fuck you expected. Go back in time and be a plumber and do some game jams for fun, you'll have an infinitely better life that's infinitely less embarrassing and deals with infinitely less human shit.
>>739420908I assume this is referencing Highguard which was We want the Apex legends profit for ourselves.
So the devs are genuinely more retarded than normal people who saw this coming since last year? Like who the fuck wants more bullshit tacked onto the incomplete mess that is D2 anyway?
>>739423891>this assblastedlol. touch up your resume
>>739426058They probably thought they'd be set to task making like, Destiny 3, after a decade of getting people to play the last one instead of being told to pack up and fuck off.
>>739422871>The mindset that "everybody is replaceableyou can think EA for this and their attempts to make developers largely 'sprockets' in an attempt to minmax the system. Specific disciplines, specialities? No, you are [developer] and maybe you work in [department] but otherwise we will transfer you around to work on whatever we want whenever we want and you will use our proprietary engine never intended for any of this.
>>739426349>couldn't name one game or movie, to protect his fragile ego ends with "you are mad I won"predictable, chuddies were never known for their high IQ
>>739426517hey low iq lefty, you cry about chuds yet come to the chud site. curious. the sjw movement formed because every game was deemed too problematic. dont be disingenuous
>>739426058>So the devs are genuinely more retarded than normal people who saw this coming since last year?the way these things go is the public instantly recognizes "oh, you're gonna stop working on D2 aren't you" and corporate goes "absolutely not, we're committed to D2 for the 'long haul'." And it's an obvious, open secret they're lying through their teeth, but at work you have to pretend to believe it, pretend it's real. Because if you speak out of line you'll just get laid off more quickly or punished for causing trouble.Anyone in that company with any sense has been shopping their resume since Pete started showing off his cars, assuming they aren't the kind of company that blacklists and cuts you loose if they find out you're interviewing (which does happen)>>739425835>I think if you went out of your way to be a game dev and then settled on being a disposable cog in a malfunctioning constantly collapsing machine I don't really know what the fuck you expected.that isn't the bill of goods that got sold to these young people. Fifteen years ago, we were telling Blue Collar Workers and students struggling to make ends meet 'learn to code' and acting like tech was the future replacement for industrial careers.Everyone thought the industry would just grow and grow and grow forever. The investors themselves bought the hype after covid gave them a huge bump. Now everything is retracting and AI is eating tech.
>>739426589>chud site>4chanhow you know a motherfucking nigger has only been here 10 years at most.
Remember when Bungie made Halo?
>>739420171>being a game dev is sufferingFor me, it was the best thing in the world, even though I only make the equivalent of minimum wage.I used to work in an office and on construction sites, and both were pure torture compared to my current job, which consists of waking up, taking a couple of steps, and sitting down at my computer where I create my incest-filled games.
>>739426589>no youpredictable>you cry about chudsjust stating obvious facts>yet come to the chud sitethe chud nazi website with lgbt, literature and origami boards btwmaybe you are lost but this is not /pol/, just rememeber that you are a tourist here>the sjw movement formed because every game was deemed too problematicsjw is a caricature of valid views that are 100% compatible with progressive societies, the same can't be said about your creatively bankrupt death cultif you have to use a straw man extreme, cartoonish even, version of your opponent then your argument does not hold
>watch as numbers and revenue go down>act surprised the decision
>Half of the threads in the catalog suddenly infested with typical alphabet lunaticsWhat a coincidence
>>739426801is this supposed to be an own? the fact that youve been here for 10+ years is sad
>>739427149kek
>>739426987>and origami boards btwlol. indian, you can barely speak english. please go back and stop trolling
>>739427430>jeet! jew! nigger!you totally won anon
>>739427521>you totally won anoni did according to basic facts, logic, n reality
>>739427630no facts were presentedthe logic falls apartthe reality is that you couldn't name one chud coded game
>>739427712i did. all those games were chud coded and needed to be changed. but realistically, chuds dont wear it on their sleeves like their inferior peers do. "chuds" are mature adults and not crybabies who scream in broken english
>>739426801>You were here at most for a decade, loser!!!
>>739427838>needed to be changedaccording to... a caricature and an internet meme? that's a weak argument>chuds dont wear it on their sleeves you identify with an entire website, that makes you easily recognizable and stand out if you ask medo I have to mention pepe the frog profile pictures and so on?>peerswe are not peers by principle, not intellectually or ideologically, unless again you use the caricature straw man you came up with and even in that case it's questionable at bestone is a dead subculture that doesn't exist outside of the digital realmthe other has strong philosopical and moral grounds and advocates for basic human rights and social norms with values that are compatible with the current progressive orientation of most western countries>mature adults and not crybabies who scream I'm not the one who goes nuclear at the sight of women and blacks in fictional media, it's not like chuddies could ever create anything as compelling and praise worthy which is exactly what "mature adults" would do
>>739420171>wah wah this wasn't my fault, feel sorry for medunno, did they ever try speaking up? when I get some shit I think is not feasible or will harm the company onto my desk, I call my boss and tell him about it.sometimes we do it anyway, but when I can make good arguments against it, they are usually listened to, to some degree at least.if you just sit there and do exactly what you are told to do, even when you know better, you are partly responsible for when it blows up.
>>739428454you cannot expect anyone to waste their time on reading all that drivel, keep it to 20 words or less
>>739428454>according to... a caricature and an internet meme>it never happened and we didnt do it leftists please grow up
>>739428584as I already said chuddies were never know for their high IQ>>739428590sjw is a caricature and an internet meme, correcta single steam review out of context is not an argumentI personally didn't do anything, can't speak for others
>>739426058it was obvious, but I can understand why someone whose livelihood depends on it would decide to be willfully delusional
>>739428685>can't speak for othersThen stop trying.
>>739429062as soon as you name one chud coded game
Sony treat its workers like shit.
>>739420171Maybe don't lose your parent company 4 billion dollars jackass
>>739420171how could they have not known everyone on this website knew it was coming for years
>>739429101Not even the one you were talking to, faggot. You should stop speaking in general.
>>739429170but I'm not the one screeching about sjws ruining my digital toys
It's funny how more appealing the game is when you don't have to worry about what bullshit is going to be paywalled or ruined in the future.
>>739429138developers had nothing to do with that acquisition deal you fucking imbecile.They were worth 15-25% of that price tag, at best.
us&a cant create anything good anymore
Most of those were leftists trannies anyway. Can't feel bad for them losing their jobs.
Cant wait for Marathon to die and Destiny to be double deadder.>t. 7000hrs in D2 and still playing
>>739420171Karma for putting propaganda in the game, get fucked.
>>739428685thats not a steam review. can you literal tourist shills please leave
>>739423891Doom?Think you'll find the overwhelming majority of great classic games were actually programmed by people who confidently believed that there were only two genders
>>739431050it's still a random screenshot out of nowhere, my bad for not recognizing some random internet shithole which dismissed the argument somehow
>>739429101>as soon as you name one chud coded gameall the old ubisoft games, all the old call of dutys, counter strike, red alert 3, any game with a damsel in distress, all the old god of wars, etc. any game with sexualized women, any game where the enemies of the modern us lose, any game with jokes at certain peoples expense, etc. pretty much all older games
>>739431170>some random internet shitholethat is literally a steam discussion post. where do you people come from?
The gaming industry seems like an absolute nightmare to work in.>make game>game doesnt sell well, youre fired>game sells well but not well enough for the shareholders, youre fired>game sells well and is a major hit, but half of your team are still fired anyway
>>739420171how can you not make money with an average player count of 10k players? wut? Just scale down development or make it cheaper somehow, no reason to publically wave the white flag and throw away free money. Seems retarded to shut something down that's clearly still operating at a really popular level.
>>739420171If you work for Bungie, you have no one but yourself to blame. They died after shipping Halo Reach in 2010.
>>739420171Latin/mmiwg2slgbtqia+/bros... we have to help bungie!
>>739431606>we now pretend that steam discussion is not a garbage dump to whine about technical performance and to post non-related bait and """"opinions""""" (literally /v/)
>>739422923IP laws should be abolished. At the very least it should be so that no companies can own them. Only individual humans with no way to split them.
>>739420171because bungie isn't in control of their own companythis is what happens when you allow ownership to be arbitrarily traded
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>>739422684Walmart is always hiring.
>>739420171Bungie’s downfall is way worse than BioWare’s honestly
>>739422684it's not like this was foreshadowed back in 2004 with the massive influx of people going to college for game development...oh wait.
