>mfw there are only 3 good remakesHow? Why is it so hard to make a good remake?
>>7394263795 good remakes*
>>739426379Gba metroid and kirby games
>>739426435>Serious SamDamn. I haven't thought about Dollar Store Duke Nukem for a->WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!
>>739426379Remakes inherently lack soul or the artistic drive to create something new.
>>739426379>System Shock>goodit was okay but the original is better
>>739427302No. Not only is it kino, but its also the best Shock game.
>>739427440I didn't like how they made everything flashy and overdesigned
>>739427496On the contrary, I feel yhat they petfrctly realized the original artistic vision of SS1 with an autistic attention to detail.It has only two flaws in my opinion:>1. The soundtravk got "lo-fi'd">2. The Btidge looks less "meaty nightmare" and more "Warhammer 40k NeoGothic"
>>739426379I 100% agree that the System Shock remake is good, even as someone who tries to play the original version of the game over the remake, I always go for the System Shock remake because I found the control scheme and gameplay for the original to be very cumbersome, and unfun.
>>739427804Its so good. Have you played the other Shock games? Rank them?
>>7394280621. BioShock 1 + 22. System Shock Remake3. BioShock Infinite (Actually good desu)4. Prey (Haven't played much of it, but it's pretty neat.)
>>739427804SS Enhanced edition has fixed controls, try this
>>739426379Wait. Did they remake DoA?
>Remake>goodmaybe on planet retard
>>739427302This. Robocop pov is what made the original great
>>739427496Ah yes System Shock. Well known for not being flashy and overdesigned.I don't even need to play or look at the remake to know it is many times better than the original because wow does it suck.
>>739428145That's the one I tried, but I can't wrap my head around it's gameplay, I'm sorry :(
>>739427302no schizo level. too dark. the hacker looks like reddit soldier man instead of a normal dude. it fucking sucks.
>>739428161right moggs
>>739428126For me its>SSR>BS1>Minerva's Den>Burial at Sea>SS2>BSI>BS2Prey isn't a Shock game thougheverbeit(Even though it REALLY wants to be)
>>7394264357*Plus Perfect Dark XBLA
>>739428158Yeah. DoA2 got remade with DoA4's engine.(And it came with a free remaster of DOA1!)
>>739428257>I can't wrap my head around it's gameplayDon't worry, neither did the devs back then lmao. And it only gets worse as it goes on.At the end the few redeeming parts are some monster designs maybe and the music if it isn't blarging a shrill ringtone as bass into your ears for that one song.Writing and atmosphere was alright at the start but it just goes downhill. SHODAN literally emailing you step by step instructions on how to penetrate her fortress is a comically bad nosedive.
>>739426379>REmake>GoodWhat makes it good?
>>739428161I said good. Not better.
>>739426379You're a retard:>Myst>Riven>Serious Sam>Age of Mythology: Retold>Command and Conquer: Remastered
>>739428161Let it go, unc.REmake > RE1REmake 2 = RE2REmake 3 < RE3REmake 4 < RE4
>>739428247too dark, too much glowing things around
>>739428530>Let it go, unc.We're all uncs here. And no, REmake isn't better. It does nothing better than RE1og. Backthen, it's mainselling point was and is "muh graphics".
>>739428367RARE shooters suck.There, I said it.
>>739428412Jiggle physics
>>739428530I refuse to play REmake 3 unless I can have real Jill back.
>>739428412Nothing. It's a complete butchery
System Shock remake being good was honestly a surprise considering they actually changed some things around since almost every time the gameplay ends up worse for itInstead they made cyberspace and the hacking games actually playable and the music is rather pleasant to listen toHow fuckign hard is it to make something and not cut corners like 99% of devs now do even with remakes?
>>739428601Anon, that is pure 80's sci fi neon with a bit of hackers. Spector loved it because they coulnt do back then since colored lightmaps was exclusive to id software.My only beef with the remake is just the soundtrack, but that can be fixed with the gravis ultrasound mod.
>>739428601The original is a surprisingly bright game apart from the few rooms they intended you to flip a switch or use a flashlight.Oh yeah one really cool thing about it is that you can doubleclick on every tile and object and get shown its name.
>>739428247>to know it is many times better than the originalUtterly destroyed the original music in favor of ambienceSlow movement speed Weapon speed is slower and you need to go through lengthy reload animations Cut weapons from the gameCut some of the enemies from the game Utterly fucked up the art style of the original making everything monochromatic and even removed the cool organic growth from the walls Mandatory cyberspace segments just for the sake of paddingMade puzzles lengthier, not harder just to further the game length Turned Edward Diego into a cartoon villain just evil for the sake of it Cut functionality of a number of gadgets and removed timed explosive charges Added a crappy currency and vendor system tied to continually scrapping items Added weapon mods which can actually reduce the effectiveness in some casesScrapped the intro cutscene for an absolutely terrible hacker apartment and Diego office segment where the hacker just "toggles" SHODAN to her evil status instead of spending days recoding her Didn't include the MFD minigames Expanded levels with boring storage areas or in the case of the groves completely changed them to be large areas of empty space with a couple of enemies scattered around Completely misunderstood the tone of the game turning it into a slow movement corridor shooter instead of a fast paced thrill ride where the hacker skates throughout the station blasting cyborgs left and right They blew it
OP being a fucking idiot? What a shocker!
>>739426379>REmakeKino>SSagreed>DoAehhhh
>>739428846It is bright nowadays because modern screens + not running on DOS.Is the same shit with Daggerfall, the game was darker due to DOS colormap shit.SS needs a DFU treatment, the old game would look great witth colored lightmaps and proper dynamic lightning.
>>739428501Riven remake is complete dogshit, turning a timeless masterpiece into dumb trash, it's the one remake that pisses me off when I see morons defend and praise it.
>>7394286041. Unc is a state of mind much like being a boomer and being unable to let go of the past even when certain parts of it is objectively inferior. 2. REmake mogged the original RE1 and your "muh color" rooms argument is the only thing you have. The artistic and graphic design shined bright in REmake unlike all the remake trends it spawned where art design was lost.
>>739428601>too dark, too much glowing things aroundThis is a crazy complaint especially in an era where most games have way too little contrast to their visuals.
>>739429145>It's bad because I say so
>>739428530>Let it go, unc.>>739428530>REmake 3 < RE3>REmake 4 < RE4It sounds like you're the little brother of the unc.
>>739428809Don't be dishonest. It lo9ked more like picrel.
>>739426379>Crimson heads2 good remakes
>>739429282I never even knew there was night vision. What kind of faggot does a Stealth playrhrough?Kys dishonest faggot.
>>739429282>using all those resources mapped to retarded keys>losing that much hp and energyHow to softlock your save 101.
>>739429501It's the final upgrade to the light. If you pick it up then you can never use the lantern again
Reminder that the dishonest faggot who keeps spamminh the same anto remake shit in every FUCKING RE and SS thread os a Shartranny and r/ gamingcirclejerk faggot, who was exposed as a fallacu spewing retard who never played the originals at all, his buddy is the anti tank controls fag too.
>>739429160>graphic design shined bright>dark-ass game that sucked all the brightness out of RE1maybe on planet retard
Crowb won.
>>739429637>antoi fucking hate cellphone keyboards.
>>739426379because they always try to remake great games
>>739429693the biggest grifter millenial retard award at planet retard.aka something awful.
>>739429620Why would you use the lantern? I never do.
>>739429282>mouselook mod>classic shock
>>739429637>anto remakeWhat?Who?New lolcow?
>>739429781You lost. The DEmakes will never be respected by anyone except zooms that never touched the originals.
>>739429637someone post the screencap about schizo namefags
Quick reminder that the cover shooting mechanic by leaning is from the original System Shock
>>739428161>noooo it's not colorful and saturated so my childish mind hates it
>>739429803What's the problem? Even the original devs admitted that's how they wanted it to be played but they couldn't because of Origins Systems being shitcunts, forcing an early release.
>>739429982based
>>739429981Because it isn't the average classic shock experience
>>739429637You can tell it's a shartyfag by the filenames/MD5Funny animals
>Let's drain Chris of all personality and make him look autisticEvery decision REmake made was for the worse
>>739428209Oozing with sovl
>>739430049Look, idgi, but as a Halo fan, I sympathize. Ours is probably the most DEmake raped franchise out there.
>>739426379Also Resident Evil 4 GODmake.
>>739430005The average for the game (considerably longer than its original release) has been System Shock portable and System Shock Enhanced, both with mouselook. I mean, I played both System Shock and Doom in 1994 with a keyboard. I was there, I have the Unc status to prove it. Would I play either of them with a keyboard only ever again? Absolutely not and you won't see Church or Spector or Carmack or Romero play those games with a keyboard only ever again. These are the standard ways to play those games and have been for decades.
>>739430227Weakest bait I've seen in my life
>>739426379It was almost one by technicality. Reimagining sort of thing. Included a bunch of C47's best missions but completely improved. Not to mention just a higher ratio of good missions in general. It's not considered to be a remake because the storyline is far different and literally starts the game at the ending of the first.But it was a creative way of improving the original.
>>739430227Didn't they put Ash in a stupid jacket?
>>739430286None of that really matters. The webm is still showcasing a game in a way it was never meant to played. The original game was a slow trek through a derelict space station and the remake is also trying to capture that.I don't actually like the remake that much for full clarity
>>739428209do you seriously have to see those all those wiggly animations again every time you start a new game or when you acquire these items/open doors??
>>739428601I'm not even defending the og, but this looks like dogshit. It looks like a toy
>>739429002What do you mean ehh? it's better in everyway without betraying the original, it even had online which was rare at the time. It was meant to be the first fighter with online but delays pushed it back. First place was MK Armaggedon and DOA2U 2nd
>>739430286>Absolutely not and you won't see Church or Spector or Carmack or Romero play those games with a keyboard only ever againRomero never played it keyboard only in the first place
>>739430286OG Doom was meant to be played with mkb.SS was as janky as UU and TES with mouse controls til todd, scott and carmack added real mouselook for future shock douk 3d and quake.
>>739426379Metroid Prime.
Zero mission is superior to metroid
>>739429965So are dumbass exposition dumps because apparently everyone just records a single message into a portable device and leaves hat lying around? While having emails?
>>739428161You don't need to color code shit when the asset fidelity is high enough to make things memorable that way.
>>739426379Replace System Shock with FireRed/LeafGreen>>739428909This anon gets it.
>>739430445>>739429803Original System Shock was designed to be played with the Logitech CyberMan which did in fact allow faster gameplay.
>>739428909Thanks for reminding me how dogshit the original SS was
>>739426747video games aren't art
>>739429803>>739429981>>739432241That's not even the actual game itself. Secondary retards
