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Is this the future of RPG Maker games?
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>>739432317
more slop for the slop gods
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that looks like complete shit
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>>739432317
most h games still use mv because of the amount of assets, unless they have every fetish in the package represented I think it will still be awhile before this becomes the norm
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>>739432317
How does this improve the game tho?
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>>739432317
This looks really bad and it's more difficult to develop with. Isometric JRPGs have decades of examples and resources to pick from.
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The sex scenes in hgames are all CGs though
No one cares what the overworld looks like
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>>739432317
LonaRPG update when?
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I know this isn't the fault of the guys making RPG maker 2, but the fact that this aesthetic ever got popular is insane to me.
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>>739432317
mite b cool for the madmen that make games that aren't rpg
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>>739432317
Ugly
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>>739432317
I unironically like the HD-2D style, but that lacks the actual high quality that makes HD-2D stand out.
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2D-HD has never looked good to me.
The mixed method of 2D sprites on a 3D environments clashes and just looks cheap.
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2D sprites with 3D enviroments is great and you are all retards.
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>>739433352
It's just standard /v/ contrarianism. /v/ gushed about Octopath when it was revealed until they saw Reddit and Twitter doing the same.
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>>739432317
No, not everyone will like that style. Speaking of RPGMaker;

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>>739433352
It's not 3D environments in the OP, homosexual. It's 3D perspective being forced on 2D tiles.
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>>739433498
T-thanks...
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>>739433498
thanks
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>>739432317
at last, pokemon essentials in THREE DEE
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>>739432317
>Is this the future of RPG Maker games?
I hope so, people can say whatever they want, but hd2d games look noticeably better than 2d rpg maker games.
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wow now the map is less readable than before
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>>739432317
I saw people talking up Bakin, said it could already do this and more
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>>739432317
This shit looks amazing, the fuck are you retards in this thread smoking?
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>>739433352
they never played vagrant story
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HD-2D has a lot of potential but no game has figured it out yet. Live a live came the closest
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Looks like shit
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>>739432465
Well, yeah. It's "HD-2D" Pixelshit. Bravely Default, Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters, etc. all look garbage in the style.
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>>739432317
squares going to go bankrupt
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Eh idk about this. HD2D has become Square's signature, so idk how to feel about the potential for anyone to copy and dilute this style.
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>>739434401
>eh idk nintendo be copying sonys signature style by making a 3d mario game idk how to feel about the potential for anyone to dilute their style they came up wit nigga
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>>739432465
>Anon thinks thing looks like shit
When is that never the case?
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>>739432527
>>739432559
it seems you can still use the existing assets
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Does anyone know if it's actually a Unity plugin, or is it a separate program like the other RPG makers?
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>>739432317
Fuck am going to make a mgs or a pokemon clone maybe a mix of them


Wish me luck virgins
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>>739433213
Not played 2dh game but I think it's a nice compromise people want 3d games. Personally never liked it cos it feels like your just pressing up all the time moving with 2d top down graphics it didnt feel so tiresome moving around
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>>739432317
I hope the battles are not just half-baked 2D first person battles again and more removed features. RPG Maker loves their half-baked releases
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Looks pretty cool to me. Disregard the faggots who fear anything new
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>>739432317
They improved the map projection but didn't care to improve the sprite animations
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>>739432317
Hope someone makes HD2D remakes of Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger before Square-Enix does.
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>>739435538
So you agree with modern politics in games such as identity politics, pride flags, women knights or kings, etc?
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>>739434269
ff pixel remasters don't use that style
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"HD 2D" has all been disgusting trash since its inception.
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>>739432317
To be honest, I'm surprised it took them *that* long.
Something looking like Ragnarok Online should have been a default option of the engine 10 years ago already.
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>>739435538
>>739435885
Fag went real quiet after this one KEK
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>>739432317
>chasing visual and graphical trends that will be outdated within 3 years of release
>instead of making the editor more useful and more powerful for devs while remaining timeless
This is why 2k3 Maniacs wins every time. It actually asks "what sorts of things would power devs want in RPG Maker" and makes them happen instead of "what sorts of things would shitty porn sludge, visual novel, and wannabe devs want".
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>>739435885
>women knights
objectively sexo
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>>739436230
Thing is 3D was a thing in the console versions decades ago, they really didn't care to add it to the PC version
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>>739435885
Mental illness to think that's related
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>>739432317
Gamefreak is toast.
This stuff looks like poke'slop
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>implying modern H game devs will ever evolve past the "just use RPGM so we can sell it and pretend it's an actual game instead of a CG collector" mindset
Looks neat regardless, but I doubt it'll get much use
Most good RPGM games I've played tried their hardest to disguise the fact they were RPGM games to begin with, like Symphony of War


>>739436991
You're not supposed to feed it (you)s
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>>739436991
You said it's wrong to hate new stuff in games so how is that not related? So what you really meat to say is SPECIFIC new stuff?
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>>739436983
I pray one day they will make a pc version or port just just have to keep on praying...or just email spam them on why it's a good idea one of them will work eventually
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>>739433352
With decent direction I think sprites look fine on 3D terrain, but "HD-2D" means slapping hideous filters on top
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>>739436230
RPG Maker on PC should not have just one look. If anything you should be able to have different styles of maps and battles and be able to mix and match elements to your liking without using plugins.
It should be able to make at least PS1-tier looking RPG games by now.
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>>739432975
well duh, it's RPGmaker. its not like the original RPGmaker style looked remotely comparable to the style it was imitating either.
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>>739434269
>Bravely Default
>Pixelshit
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>>739432317
Some porn artist who works on DLsite cheap porn JRPGs laughed his ass off at this calling it dogshit because of the walking animations being so bad it looked like they are sliding across the floor not walking.
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>>739432975
It would need more projection/camera angle options
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>>739434269
>Well, yeah. It's "HD-2D" Pixelshit.
>Bravely Default, Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters, etc
anon actually managed to fail to list a single HD-2D game in his list of examples. genuinely impressive.
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Gotta wonder about parallax mapping with this, or if you can add more clutter/decoration to a ingle tile.

A good parallax map on Ace, MV, or MZ can look pretty good and allows you to add more clutter/decoration than you would otherwise.
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>>739432317
This looks like one of the coolest things Ive ever seen. Could absolutely change gaming for the better putting this in the hands of creatives. Blown away by the negativity.
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Now just add in turn-based tactical battles.
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>>739437102
l2read...
>anything new
The word anything means you hate anything that's new, while if you hate specific new, that's not anything, it's specific
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>>739432317
I doubt it. I am 300% sure japs will stick with older versions they are using currently
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>>739437154
>>739437396
They honestly should have enough material to add different battle systems inspired from all these games the past years.
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>>739433352
it's the best art style
hd-2d still sucks ass and hurts to look at
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>>739437154
Im currently getting filtered by the lighthouse on my 15th playthrough. I know its the worst part of the game but id hate for my love of BoF3 to end their. The lighthouse is just so bad.
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>>739432317
soulless
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So do these things have a good sprite maker or something?
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>>739437396
Could you imagine?
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>>739437532
It's time to grind and learn some master skills, upgrade equips and swap out your party members and see which one works the best
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>>739432317
why do they do that forced focus thing? i hate that all the edges are blurry
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>>739432317
>That shadow tech
Holy shit, those silhouette Hgames are gonna print bullions.
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>>739432317
I mean RPG maker already looks bland and the tilesets have been seen a gorillion times already. At least this will be fresh in comparison.
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>>739437829
these are default RPG Maker XP tilesets and character sprites
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>>739432317
Imagine VH but actually finished, in HD-2D....
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>>739437568
idk but wolfrpg editor lets you combine sprites
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>>739432317
how hard is to make a game in rpg maker? i cant code at all btw
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>>739437042
Why?
Graphically, Gamefreak has been behind every other professional studio and within range of any random-ass indie since literally forever.
This won't change shit to the success of the next few "Cassette Beasts" or "Themthem", since that's not what the game get sold on anyway.
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>>739438268
wolfrpg is just weirdly versatile there's that side scrolling hacknslash made in it
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>>739438364
If you want to make an exact copy of some stereotypical old final fantasy-ish game, no coding involved.
Gonna need script everywhere the second you want to deviate a bit tho.
Nothing as difficult as an actual game engine tho, RPGM still exist despite Unity/Unreal for a good reason.
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>>739437368
They were right. It's just a pretty but boring game.
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>>739432317
>add blur / DOF
>OMG NOW WE CAN TOTALLY DO GAMES LIKE OCTOPATH TRAVELERS OURSELVES
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>>739432317
Do we know what it going to be used?
C+, python, JS, C# or some other shit?
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hd-2d looks like shit
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>>739439253
Probably still JS or they are using Unity under the hood
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>>739433352
That's fine and has existed long before HD2D.
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>>739438859
Still sold well, and better then anything you ever make.
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>>739433498
i missed them fuck
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>>739433213
It looks like shit because it just vomits modern post processing effects and doesn't even try to make the environments fit the game's art style.
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>>739432317
When is this coming out?
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>>739432317
Take the AA and AG game systems and slap them into one of these. Let the fun ensue.
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>>739439414
>Slop sales are now proof of quality
>Desperately resorts to ad hominem
HK was never good, anon. It coincided with the Prepare to Cry series of videos and teenage fags loved it. There's a reason Undertale fags also love Hollow Knightslop, they're the same pathetic audience.
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>>739432465
Fucking how you pleb? With these tools even a total fucking retard like you could make something.
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>>739439751
>quality
Never said it was good jeet, learn to read.

All I said was it sold well and that a jeet like you can never even make something better then a shitty 2d sidescroller.
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>>739439898
Youll will see I'm going to be using AI more often as it is growing at incredible pace, it will make so many better games than hollow knight
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>>739439898
Now type that without crying, kek
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The perspective is fucked
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HD-2D is overdone.

personally, hate the style.
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>use AI to generate sprites, music, writing and scripts to make a full fledged jrpg
Why hasn't anyone done this yet?
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>>739432317
This, too, I blame on square enix.
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>>739432317
why are there like 30 different versions of rpg maker?
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>>739440275
Because it would create unappealing slop. Trying to wrangle the AI to make something good would take more effort than just making it yourself.
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>>739439436
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>>739440275
you can just use stock assets and avoid any AI drama just like that lol
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I don't care, I don't jerk off to the overworld.
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>>739436836
VXA, MV and MZ already do that with javascript and RGSS. they do allow more freedom on your games, they even also allow 3d.

having said that, if people wanted to make 3d eroge games, they could have gone to Bakin or 3d paper already. and heres a shocker: those are actual 3d engines.

U2U's deal is some sort of 2.5d, all maps are fixed on one angle and you cant rotate the views. they arent real 3d unlike Bakin.
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>>739432975
>lacks the actual high quality
pic not related?
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>>739433498
>>739433543
jej
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>>739432317
Are future rpgm porn games going to use this?
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name five good rpg maker games
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>>739440678
I had to confirm that the girls' moms didn't have any h scenes. Happily married couples being allowed to exist without being defiled is so fucking based.
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>>739432317
I doubt it was that much effort for them to do considering there was already a plugin that did it in RMMV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWGa7DQQaG8
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>>739440991
LISA
Helen's Mysterious Castle
Omori
OFF
Yume Nikki
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>>739440987
black souls 3
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>>739433543
Gottem!
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>>739437368
How did Hollow Knight get so popular anyway? Especially when it had this kind of negativity right out the gate?
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>>739441334
It all comes down to money, any game that gets popular isn't mere chance or based on how good the game is, maybe back in the 90s but now it's down to a formula, pay for reviews, pay Youtubers to talk about it, fake, fake, fake.
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>>739432465
It's called Soul, ask your Jews handlers to describe it, you golem.
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>>739432580
Nope. Sometimes I wanna play HSlop so I can skip to CGs, sometimes I want to play a videogame with porn as a reward. It's called fore"play" for a reason.
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>>739435885
Yes. When it's a H-Game. ;)
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>>739432580
sex in the overworld is hype tho
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>>739432317
Not if I can't run it on joiplay
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>>739435885
>So you
Only dishonest faggots talk like that.
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>>739433352
RO was the first MMO I'd always make girl characters for because I'd whack it to their cute big butt sprites.
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>>739436836
Are there any good guides to using Maniacs?
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>>739442486
wat
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>>739432317
This is crazy because HD 2D fits nukige more than family friendly story settings
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>>739432317
i hate the 2DHD style so fucking much, its hideous
>>739439859
>even a retard can make an ugly product
they could already do that
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Nobody else think the skewed tileset looks super noticeable? Like some tiles are made for a different camera angle than others. Makes it look worse than it should.
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>>739444027
did you think they were going to make dedicated tilesets?
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>>739444027
It's nice to see the xp character again
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>>739432317
Holy shit, the rtp assets don't look like shit.

Makes me wonder if they were designing for this for years, it would explain why MV and MZ were so goddamn ugly.

As a sucker for RPG maker as a toy. This is actually tempting.
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>>739445121
They're reused from RPG Maker XP
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>>739439751
I'm glad I come here once a week and still see niggers are posting. They allow you dumb monkeys on this board still?
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>>739444027
these are only examples to show how '3d' maps work.. and you are correct.

truth here is that this isnt real 3d, its more like 2.5D Raytracing. specially since theres no angle rotation, something the 3d plugins MV and MZ have... hell! some VX and even XP games have actual 3d environments.
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>>739445807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeF2r_OjA6I

THIS is an actual 3d HD2D game engine. if people wanted to make their cutting edge 3d eroges, they could have done so already. i can imagine they dont because of rhe price, but this engine also has discounts from time to time and is as old as MZ.
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>>739432317
>This will be Black Souls graphics n 2013
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JttJh13UaxA
if you know, you know
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Kill all rpgmaker shitters.
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>>739446080
Generic RPG porn game?
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>>739441129
You only named 1 in that list. Try again.
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>>739432317
That's pretty cool. I hope some japdev goes full autism with this
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I've been working on setting up a 3D game like this for a while... it took a long time to set up but... if I'm making the world with 3D models I feel like making the game will take a long time.... should I just move to this?
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>>739446380
You should give up because you have no talent.
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hey thats kindof cool. It almost looks like minecraft in a weird sort of way
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>>739446429
Isn't that the point of rpg maker?
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>>739440275
People that are too lazy to write for a game are too lazy to make a project.
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>>739443126
Imagine what we could've had
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>>739441735
>Hebrew-Definition 2D
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>>739432580
I'm a hidden NTR chad so I do care that the overworld looks nice
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>>739440429
I will thoroughly enjoy this Video Game™
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>>739432317
Monster girl quest paradox remake soon™
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Haters haven't played Wild Arms 2 or Xenogears or Star Ocean 2
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>>739448916
I should replay the Star Ocean 2 remake sometime.
Playing that and reading the threads at release was fun.
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>>739440275
you could probably find this somewhere on steam but you don't actually want to play it
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>>739440275
Literally made 3 20-hour long rpgs last month this way. It's pretty good if you want to make a few bucks.
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>>739449592
I did a 100% run on the hardest when it released, they have since added an even harder mode with more content so it's worth checking out for sure.
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>>739432317
The sprites aren't correctly aligned to the floor tiles (which wasn't an issue for the plugin that did the same effect in the previous rpg maker)
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>>739432317
ngl I'm tired of all RPG maker games looking the same so I don't mind this
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Somebody is going to make a game that sells ten million copies with this and I can't wait to see /v/ cope and seethe.
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>>739440093
>Youll will see I'm going to be using AI more often as it is growing at incredible pace, it will make so many better games than hollow knight
>Now type that without crying, kek
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>>739455156
Nigger, why do you expect me to read your greentext garbage post with a low-effort saar image? I ain't readin' all that you dumb faggot. Kill your mother.
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>>739455246
>Nigger, why do you expect me to read your greentext garbage post with a low-effort saar image? I ain't readin' all that you dumb faggot. Kill your mother.
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>>739454674
That's me. I will do it.
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>>739432317
There has been a plugin for existing RPGMaker games to do this for a decade
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>>739447119
Who are you hiding from?
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>>739432317
Shame Pokémon Essentials won't be able to utilize this; otherwise we'll be close to DPPt-B2W2 territory of graphics.
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>>739433498
>nobody took his shitty furfag codes on the other thread
>so he resulted to bait instead
pathetic
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>>739455435
the bull is hiding from me
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>>739432317
It reminds me of Lolique2-Gaiden art for some reason. I'm sure hentai devs will make do whether they use this or stay with mz.
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>>739444027
I love the trees clipping in the walls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEcu4bun1og
>It's been a while, hasn't it?
Also, oh shit. It's *actually* the XP characters. Didn't even notice before I fished this damn thing out.
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>>739432317
>unity again
It's dead on arrival.
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>>739433213
Stupid Bonbiposter. Die!
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>>739445913
Shame it's some .NET 4.5 based abomination that makes direct syscalls to the kernel and doesn't work on Linux or even Windows 7.
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>>739458290
SOVL OVERLOAD
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>>739433352
HD2D is far from a new concept, fuck's sake we've been doing 2D on 3D since the PS1 with Xenogears and various other games. Shit, I can claim Catacombs 3D and Wolfenstein 3D were doing this concept, you slap an HD mod on something like Doom and bam. It's the filters people get up in arms about and some weird insanity over technicalities.



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