>went from a niche tabletop game for dorks to one of the largest video game franchises in historyHow did they do it?
by giving out the IP to literally anybody that asks
>>739446564>became shityou forgot that part OP, got you covered
>>739446564piggies love slop
>>739446656thanks /v/ for stating the obvious that everything in the world is shit.
>>739446564Video Games. Because at least there you don't need to buy alot of plastic and learn to paint good or play the actually TT game. Not to downplay the TT game; but I mean ease of access does ALOT. I didn't get into it until I played Vermintide 2, and from there Total War Warhammer 2 and Darktide.
>>739446564When was it niche? I know loads of normies that paint the figures but dont play the game
>>739446706>>739446656>Niggers and Women Niggers and WomenKeep crying chuds. It's not your fancy clubhouse, be happy they're keeping your IPs alive and not End Time's like Old World.
>>739446827For most of it's existence since the 1980's.
>>739446564Warhammer is the last refuge of everyone who fled from the enshittification and destruction of things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Star Trek. People only like it because it sort of reminds them of aspects of the better franchises they lost, and this actually gets dozens of video games every year in various genres so it has a wide net for an audience. It only survives and thrives due to not having any competition anymore from all the things it once shamelessly ripped off.
>>739446891>1980sthe first store opened in 1978 lol
>>739446874??? I just hate Games Workslop for taking down fan animations, I don't care about politics
>>739446947>first store opened up two years before the 1980'sYou rekt me fella
>>739446564I used to joke 40K is a mainstream hobby cosplaying as a niche one>>739446649thiseveryone does what they can across all media>fanmadde stuff>vidya>minis>books>the main tabletop and spinoffs and GW just grabs all the fans and then they spin again in more stuffjust wish they could use all that momentum to move the plot forward
>>739446874End Times was a good thing, Fantasy can no longer be niggerfied>muh Old Worldnot canon
By doing nothing, modern 40Gay fandom is Soi Wars, Battlestar Galactica and Trekkie refugees. The kind of cringe inducing fucking loser that unironically screams "Excelsior" in public.
>>739447007Wasnt trying to but warhammer has been popular for longer than its been niche
>>739447045We love Cathay here.
>>739447059It's never really been popular like it is now, normies know about it and most people that know nothing about it have heard of it.
>>739447056You have it backwards. Those are the kind of embarrassing dweebs that liked this shit originally. Star Wars and Star Trek fans are normal and well adjusted by comparison to the kind of cringe people drawn to 40k board game larping.
>>739446564I keep buying their shit
Henry Cavil saw it coming and took the opportunity to gatekeep it. Trannies like to seethe about it but he is irl Superman.
>>739447219It was, you just hear about it constantly now because you can be terminally online and consume hundreds of hours worth if warhammer content in two clicks
Battletech > 40k
>>739446564Because it's just a fun silly grimdark universe at face value, faggots keep trying to deconstruct it like it has some deeper meaning. It's basically a Verhoven movie.
>>739446564Pandering to both trannies and chuds. They're basically the same after all.
>>739446564It's just world history but everyone is comically evil and perverted to the darkest aspects.
>>739446564all the other big sci-fi franchises went through their own ritualistic suicide. don't worry, 40k will also get its turn to please moloch.
>>739446564everyone realized that hitler was right about the skaven :)
>Manchildren buy extremely overpriced plastic trash to paint themselvesThe boomers and zoomers are right, something is just really wrong with genx/millenials
>>739446564Jeets flooding civilized countries made people realize that Nurgle is a god in the real world.
>>739447307Based Cavil not letting them make wokeslop movies and tv shows
>>739447898millennials were the generation biggest affected by hoeflationI can count with my hands the number of married women with children in their 30s of all my extended family and friends
>>739448137Nah, we zoomers got it worse
>>739448137>all divorced kids are grown and out of the houseBeing in my 40's is like being a teenager again, they come over to get their brains fucked out and leave hoping they can kindle some kind of relationship.
>>739448303Nah you never even knew what you lost, we just watched kike banks rug pull us every time we started getting ahead.
>>739446564>Milk the IP to any dev that asks>Still terrified of recreating the tabletop in video game format in fear of their plastic shit getting cannibalizedIs their fear justified? Is the tabletop even that popular or do a majority just comment to paint and nothing else?
>>739447898>>739448137>>739448343Don't vacation industries rely on DINCs to survive at the moment?
>>739446649>by giving out the IP to literally anybody that asksmore or less. Sometimes it works sometimes it ends like pic related. >studio that did 1 strategylike game but not else (and it shows)>studio picked 2 most boring factions from the game (and default paint schemes)>only 2 factions for the startHonestely they could have just copied DOW or Battle for MIddle Earth and You are set. O and Army painter that is a must. Seriously do devs lost the ability to just copy ideas? Like Skull and Bones. Just copy AC: Black Flag Pirate mechanics. I dunno I just wanted to express my bevilderment
>>739448501Yeah. They get really, really mad when Tabletop Simulator is mentioned or shit like SOVL which is basically just warhammer fantasy (but tabletop, not Total War). The problem is no one is really challenging them is either super ultra shit (Marvel, starcraft, etc.) or ungodly woke and/or idiocy that they kill themselves (Trench Crusade). The Games Workshop boomers are also similar to Blizzard boomers that they'll buy anything and everything.
>>739448838the problem is that Warhammer is the only mainstream (as in typical normie knows abaut it) TTRPG. So any other game has to advertise it a "Warhammer but..." so then people ask what there and it's nothing.Also Trench Crusade fell in the hole of Going all in on Grim and Dark and not leaving a room for some wackier shit and Using overt RL iconography. Also the STL and Plastic minis debacle did not help. And Turnip 28 is way too restrictive way too much empasis on dirty stuff.
>>739449094Yeah I know a friend into Turnip 28 and aesthetically felt way too one note but he's also a Nurgle simp so that makes sense.
We all moved to This Quar's War.
>>739449207More or less. Turnip28 feels very one note and doesn't really offer even in terms of Narrative potential. Yea Warhammer also had doomed world but it had some pretty views and variety while at it. Shit jacoouzi is fun but I sometimes want something else.
>>739446564because 4chan is the culture hub of the internet and meme'd it because of the overt nazi coded themes.
>Chuddy normalfags like it because it's vaguely edgy and inspired by irl history and Christianity >Leftoid normalfags like it because it because the setting has an evil racist church so they think it's a critique of capitalism (they don't know GW literally just ripped off Michael Moorcock and is basically as capitalist as it gets) >GW makes money off of both of them while they fight over which side of the political spectrum their plastic toys support.
>>739447014>just wish they could use all that momentum to move the plot forwardFuck off, they moved the plot forward during 8th edition and at best it's been a garbled mess.
>>739446564As some have said in this thread, there’s a lot of disgruntled fans of other franchises that have hopped onboard over the years. I used to be a huge Star Wars fag before Disney got the rights to it. I eventually drifted to UC Gundam (SIEG ZEON!), and started getting into 40k through the video games. I’ve read about ten 40k books and bought a Krieg Death Korps set which I haven’t gotten around to painting yet. I’ll probably stick around, there’s no going back to Soi Wars, ever.
>>739449578>people think the empire/imperium are the good guys>there are no good guys only war>nazi code the empire (holy roman empire) and imperium (space nazis)>whoooah fuck yeah the empire/imperium are based!
>>739448838There are other dark sci-fi games like deadzone, urban war and mutant chronicles but nobody cares about them because they don't have this whole internet meme status warhammer has and american game stores don't really stock them. There's also conquest but the models are super expensive and complicated.
>>739449832>Fuck off, they moved the plot forward during 8th editionthey put a new coat on it and it all still sounds the same
I like the dread of End Times, shame it could have dragged on forever
>>739449972Exactly, so all we have to show for it are crap minis, stupid retcons (more than usual), and a worsening ruleset
>>739446564The ONLY good WH game is total war which is a reskin of an already good series. Everything else sucks hard dicks
>>739450059Jews won (skaven) nazis lost (empire) cope and seethe nazifag
>>739447472Verhoven movies actually do have layers to them if you take the time to look deeper. Warhammer is just rip off after shitty rip off and the stories and characters aren't interesting.
i really enjoyed the battlefleet gothic: armada games
>>739450173The only good total war games are Rome I and Napoleon if you like line armies, which I do
>>739450195Yeah I know, but it's still skin deep
>>739450307Total war games are a cynical version of machiavellism, thanks for reading my blog. I have a degree in social (((science)))
>>739446649I wish bungie would do this with destiny and just go under as a company when people start making better destiny games than they were ever capable of.
I just finished reading this. Recommend me something else, nerds. The edgier and grimdark the better.
as a highly successful fourty year old straight white man, I will not allow my edgy childhood be perverted and will hire lawyers and assassins to keep it's stupid logic 'pure'.
>>739450683>Eisenhorn Trilogy>Ravenor Trilogy>Priests of Mars Trilogy>Gaunt's Ghosts Series>Ciaphas Cain Series>The Infinite and the Divine (Necron POV)
>>739450683Salammbo
>>739450741and my axe.
>>739450893based bongman gatekeeping bong shit.
>>739446564Did it though? Most of it is Shovelware. Atleast Warhammer Fantasy has Vermintide 2 and Warhammer Total War. 40k games are consistently mediocre.
Does Henry Cavill actually own the rights to movie/television Warhammer? Because that is fucking based, I trust him because he quit the Witcher over not being faithful to the source material.
>>739450741Based.
>>739451137Space Marine, Dawn of War, Mechanicus were all huge hits that brought in normies to the lore. Just look at youtube shoveling warhammer lore videos with millions of views.
>>739446564Dawn of WarTotal WarVermintideSpess marinea nice stable of mega hits kind of like star wars vidya
>>739448501>Still terrified of recreating the tabletop in video gameNot after total war Warhammer.
>>739446649Except the thing is they didn't. Why do you retards say this shit when you just have to look at the shovelware to know that isn't true? If anything they are too protective and won't farm out the IP enough to competent developers who would demand a little more control over the final product.
>everyone knows about slaanesh and nurgle>my cult of Tzaeentch is growing in the background unabided
>>739446564so it went from dorks to dorks
>>739451609everyone is now as socially isolated as we were and we can go deeper.
>>739451609more like from dorks to normalfags larping as dorks
>>739451690>mfw always been some kind of awkward shy dude>younger people these days are so fucked retarded, i can almost pass as a chad nowThis is fucked up
>>739446564used to be unabashedly edgy and offensive.
>>739450683The dark coilIron warriors(the series)The Uriel ventris seriesPath of the dark eldarForges of mars The yarrick seriesRynns worldHelsreachThe Ahriman series
>>739451760My dad calls it a root with no limbs
The Horus heresy is kind of funny with some of its plotlines like the implication that Martin luther king and by extension jews are affiliated with chaos
>>739446564They were playing Warhammer on the mellenium falcon in the first Star Wars movie.
>>739451609not even closehttps://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
>>739449896They misunderstood the audience, everyone is fully aware that the empire is fucking evil, it's called roleplaying
>>739452938I’m not reading some faggots blog
>>739451738the OG dorks were also normalfaggots, otherwise you wouldn't know they existed.
>>739450683Night Lords trilogoy is some of the best 40k books they've written. I am also partial to shroud of night because it's a fun heist book.
>>739453043>everyone is fully aware that the empire is fucking evilAnon I...
>>739446564>one of the largest video game franchises in historymaybe one in 20 of the games released with GW IPs post 2010 do decentlynot well, decently
>>739446564There must be about a hundred Warhammer games by now, is it that surprising at least a few of them were successful?
>>739453158>he thinks an adult playing with toys in a basement was normal in the 90'sKinda was but we played axis and allies and then went out to crash parties with the jocks while getting really fucking high. But that was Anchorage Alaska not sure about everyone else, if you wanted to fuck you had to learn how to fight.
>>7394468271980's, pretty much stopped being niche by the mid 2000's. That being said the actual tabletop is niche.
>>739453425we probably know each other lmao, Hillside fucked all the grills and fucked ul all of the jewel lake fake gangstas
>>739453620Hell yeah nigger
>>739453832keep rollin' rollin' rollin'
>>739450790>>739450798>>739451890>>739453220Thanks, bros. Emperor protects.
Because 40K fags spent the last 15 years forcing their way into any sci-fi discussion to proselytize it. Now it is mainstream and they hopefully hate themselves.
>>739453620I joined the marines and killed everything that moved, it upset the people with a conscience around me, but they all commited suicide like the faggots I told them they were.
>>739454173www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOo8cjwTq5ALike what the fuck did you think you were getting into.
Is Boltgun worth playing if I’m into “boomer shooters”? It’s like $7 on steam right now.
>>739454556oh yeah if you like boomer shooters. It's a shallow game but I loved it.
>>739454485Ooooo rah mother fucker
>>739446564Total War resurrected Warhammer videogames, from it spawned the likes of Space Marine 2, Darktide, Rogue Trader and led to the Dawn of War remasterWarhammer vidya was peak during the Dawn of War era but ended bitterly with Space Marine after Relic and THQ croakedBattlefleet Gothic was too niche of a game but it helped bridge the gap until Total War Warhammer came to beThe tabletop is actually successful despite what /tg/ boomers claim, people are still buying Spess Mehreens and not much elseThe vidya style cinematics also boosted a ton in selling plastic shit and Black Library books
>>739455130The marine corps are using space marine iconography.
>>739446564Beating Warhammer as Karl Franz Empire is brutal.
>>739455370Playing as Gelt who is a khazarian jew is easy mode lmao.
>>739446874>and not End Time's like Old World.Here's a secret, bub. 40k already went through its End Times event, it's called The Fall of Cadia. After Cadia croaked, we got>Gorillaman's return>Bing bing wahoo Primarios marines>Stories of the imperium minging with xenos more and more because "omg enemy of my enemy is fren" as they join forces to fight either chaos or nids>Big pandering and licensing, prior to the fall of cadia, not a lot of companies got the chance to make vidya for warhammer>Flanderization galoreAnd probably so much more, the warhammer 40000 people knew died with Cadia.>inb4 someone copes by saying "w-well i still got my old editions!"Good for you i guess, 96% of the audience is not gonna play old editions with you, though.
>>739446564>Two (2) games that have come out recently (Space marine 2 and Rogue Trader)>ONE game people actually give a fuck about coming out soon>Even then there is a good chance DoW4 is going to be ass>Warhammer 40k: Total War will be a mess at launch and require 300 DLCs before it is playable>one of the largest video game franchises in history
>>739456403Just because you don't personally like it you can't deny it's success
>>739446564They have successfully been gaming steam frontpage for 20 years. ngl I love the setting, lore, and most of the mid games they put out. I've played Dawn of War series dozens of times. About to try Battlesector ($200+ dlc) lol pirated that shit, might give them a couple shekels if I like it.
>>739446564It's mostly Warhammer Total War, they gamed a beloved franchise and milked it for a decade with DLC.
>>739446564Only game that accurately represents my people, Vampire lords. While you are calling people shabbo's goys the jews are mine.
>>739457043>USA government: Aliens are real>Russian government: Vampires are realYeah, the universe only exists within my imagination, can't wait for China to tell me that Mermaids are real and delicious.
>>739457323If mermaids weren't real China would have a deep water Navy.
>>739452938Sociopath is old nuspeak for non-normalfag.
Game Workshop has been doing damage control lately, there is a warhammer game 80% off every week for a year.
>>739457654Go woke go broke, they are trying to mitigate the damage, which they should be given the benefit of the doubt for but I doubt they learned their lesson
TRUTH NUKE THAT YOU FAGGOTS ON /v/ CAN'T STOMACHWARHAMMER WAS BETTER WHEN IT WAS JUST A NICHE TABLETOP GAME FOR DORKS
>>739457654I'm not agreeing wholey but they've been going nuts for 40k releases ever since Space Marine 2 was doing well. They fast tracked a goddamn entire storyline just for Titus.
>>739457853how did this board get to a point where this kind of thing becomes a hot take?
>>739446564I don't really know anything about warhammer, I played the shit out of Dawn of War and Company of Heroes because I love TTS games. Played Vermintide 2 because it was basically free, and it was awesome.
>>739457992RTS*
>>739457992I don't want to be a jeet shill, but the warhammet total war games are legit af
>>739457853>/v/ CAN'T STOMACH???????
>>739446656SPBP
>>739455973>prior to the fall of cadia, not a lot of companies got the chance to make vidya for warhammerWhat are you talking about? GW vidya licenses were always distributed by a blind retard with an automatic shotgun.
>>739446564By alienating the dorks that carried them until they could walk on their own
>>739458204>spent 1k hours just playing the empire campaign over and over>got suckered into buying the tomb king bullshit>go back to the empire campaignI destroyed Rome, medieval 2, and Napoleon. Game is about hammer and anvil, paper rock scissors.
>>739458457They put a lot into the AI since then, it still is kind of shit but won't just sit there while you decimate them with artillary, or just let you walk all over their missile trools with your calvary.
>>739458650Where is the fun in that? It's historically accurate that most generals were brain dead nepo babies that couldn't command an army.
>>739458650>spam Reiksguard charge into flanks, retreat, charge again, repeat for 100 hoursFuck yeah I never get tired of it.
>>739458935Spearmen only exist to tie up enemy for my reiksguard to charge in behind. As war has always been done outside of hunnish horse archers.
>>739459053>use mongolian tactic of feigned retreat>lol eat some artillery while my lines push you to the edge of the mapEmpire has some shit mid units but are OP for the TW veteran.
>>739459258>not using gelt and spamming arty and missile troops
>>739446564GIMME A SOUL CALIBER LIKE FIGHTING GAME GW!
childhood is worshipping the empire, adulthood is realizing the rats make more sense.
None shall live in the dark recesses of the Empire.
>pick up WH40K: Martyr for like 10 bucks>get to play as a battle sister or a skitariiDorktide players literally waiting for shit that was available since 2018.
I bought mechanicus for like 2 bux because it was like X-COM. It wasn't but I enjoyed it.
>>739446564Blood bowl got me into Warhammer, go figure.
>>739446564Star Trek and Star Wars became lame and gay. 40k by default becomes the premier sci-fantasy by just surviving long enough. Now higher ups want to be it lame and gay as well.
>>739460849Star trek and wars were always gay progressive claptrap, they just made it cringe.
>>739461025in star trek they had men wearing skirts and we loved it
>>739454556Yeah, it's fine, but better Boomer Shooters exist
>>739459956Victor Saltzpyre is a fucking treasure,
>>739446564Henry Cavill made them walk back the woke shit. I don't think he is a very good actor but he is based at gatekeeping after the witcher debacle.
>>739461587Loterally me
My problem with warhammer is that there are no waifus that aren't disfigured in some way
>>739449578>>739449896>using coded unironiclly>caring about muh hekein nazi and muh media litiercy>n no chud you dont understand you cant like it its making fun of you>p please leave so we can make it gayer and lamer then it already is>>>/reddit/>>>/tumbler/>>>/sigmarxism/You fucking worthless histrionic, neurotic faggots dont belong here you NEVER belonged here you are faggot and weak and gayStop being a faggot Pronto
>>739451492thank you for remembering the truth.greedy pigs kept asking for way too big a cut so no bigger developer would come near them
>>739462965>upset that a grim dark setting of ultra violence isn't prettyYou would have died in a hive never breathing actual air or seeing star light.
>>739462996>accusing a more intelligent person than you of being redditSlobboooo
>>739463047One day you will have to figure out how to court the warrior class instead of provoking them to hate you.
>>739463294The US military is full of you, and you blundered in Iran. Warriors would jave raped and pillaged and killed every male. We would have a bunch of persian war brides
>>739459258Funniest thing is how much of a noob trap Empire is. So many people play their first eve campaign as Karl and get shitstompped.
>>739463614Everyone fucking loves SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS.
>not burning every tree until knife ear pussy submit to the emporer (me)
All the other more mainstream IPs were ruined so everyone fell back to niche things that were far to edgy to ever be co opted the corps.
>>739463294>>739463532????????????????who let this random nigger in and what are they crying about?
>>739463816I could never be a politician in the modern world because that is how I think. The Prince and Art of War were required reading.
>>739463945Our military is full of invalids.
>>739463146>heh chud i depicted you as a heroic supersoldier who saves trillions from rape demons >I bet you feel real stupid now
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>>739464067>jeets are upset over adeptus machinusirony
>>739464139Adeptus mechanicus are a cult within the empire that worship the truth the ommnissiah
>>739446649I always read GW were insanely restrictive with their licensing and always had to have a big finger in the pie, but looking at the games on sale right now it doesn't seem to have really elevated anything so maybe it was just to autistically keep the lore intact or something. There's only a small handful that are genuinely great, almost everything Warhammer is typical 6/10.
>>739464346Look at their major investors and see how much black rock (larry fink) owns.
>>739464346GW’s obsessive in how the IP is used, not who”s using it. They literally stepped in and told CA off because CA was about to add unit to the Empire that would have used repeating muskets. Then they give 40k to some random dev who’s only made asset flip games for Android phones
>>739464634Owlcat are polish and dead ukranians.
>>739464730Okay what does that have to do with the changes made to Nuln Ironsides?
>>739464850Half of the devs got dragged out of their beds to get droned once being drolled off on the frontline.
>>739464925Creative Assembly is British
>>739465021Yeah, so is Warhammer.
>>739465021Bongs have a stupid accent, but they are my people from a genetic lineage.
>>739465179I don't care how much my scot welsh american blood makes them seethe, they are still my family. Israel is not unless they give me a jewish wife to breed.
>>739465456I mean like two-three hours of never ending sex where I learn how to make you squeal and bust in your goblin face.
>>739465637I to enjoy jewish women
90% of the fanbase are now faggots who genuinely read warhammer books (lmao) and only play the video gamesnone of the good ones mind you like chaos gate, vermintide or dow1/2, but space marine 2 and total war
>>739465821you couldn't appreciate a goblin faced girl over others, my grandpa was a prussian jew. Blue eyes and dark curly hair makes my dick hard and onery. I like big noses.
Warhammer fans are genuinely the vegans of pop culture franchises. You faggots never shut the fuck up. It's gotten so bad I keep my own interest in the closet because I don't want to associate with you tards.Imagine watching a YouTube video about grandma's cookie recipe and going to the comment sections thinking "how can I make this about hecking Warhammer 40k?"Goddamn söymales.
>>739466052Ok secondary
>>739446564>How did they do it?most of their competition died out
>>739466120DnD got bought out, blizzard went retarded and had to pay tribute to DnD, warhammer exploited a loophole by being garbage pale kids.
>>739455973>>Bing bing wahoo Primarios marinesPlease tell me you didn't think this was funny, holy fuck
>>739466052then why did you run into a warhammer thread to bitch about warhammer?
>>739446894This is the answerAlso I'm this close to just boycotting anything related to Gaymes Wokeslop after they started forcing niggers everywhere
>>739446564They just let people make games. Good games. Look at disney, they only lease the star wars license out to fucking retards(okay to be fair they usually request the retarded shit in the games). There are tons of great media settings that could be vidya and most companies are too greedy or stupid to have games made.
>>739466909Mechanicus was a great game that nobody played, and suddenly everyone is an expert. I hate modern internet.
>>739465965DoW 2 is dogshit.Not a single memorable dialogue, music track, stage or character.Simplistic (in a bad way) and boring gameplayIt is peak "performative oldschool fan"Even 3 was a better game
>>739468472It's not that bad, kt's an enjoyable 7.5/10. Sure it was a let down, but still enjoyable.
>>739457436lol, those sirens are mother fuckers, I dream of them dragging me down into the depths still
I never see Battlesector mentioned every time I read one of these threads, disappointing desu. It's not the greatest game but I love it and it has decent replayability post campaigns with Crusade / Planetary Supremacy. The only legitimate complaint for SP is that it's too easy if you're not a plant.Also seen too many complaints it's expensive. Surely you are using key sellers to get older vidya and not paying full price in official stores right anon? Sailing on the high seas is fine too not like it's DRM'd though I suppose you'd lose the multiplayer aspect.
>>739468472>Even 3 was a better gameWhoa hey now let's not go that far. DoW2 might be divisive (I'm not a huge fan either, but I think it's ok) but it's definitely not worse than DoW3.
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>>739446564Yanks trying to jerk off Games Workshop as this sweet little indie darling will always be cringe.
>>739446564They crushed the gate!
>>739468789>>739469092In 3, there were some moments where I was able to enjoy the chaotic spectacle, because at least the game looked fine (despite the LoL art style).Also Warcraft 3 is my favorite game ever so I enjoyed the hero gameplay. It has been a decade since I last played it but I distinctly remember having fun playing Orks/GorgutzIt also has the most badass trailer of any WH game IMO (not that it makes a difference)https://youtu.be/gN8geCTlZOo2 was an absolute drag, like I was constantly expecting something to happen and then... nothing. Total snoozefest.I still cannot comprehend how people like that game
