Is there any game that comes close to the beauty of Dark Souls?
>>739449435yeah there are a lot of games that use its shitty combat system
>>739449435Gwyndolin was a huge part of my trans awakening
Elden Ring
what beauty? everything in these games is decrepit, mangled, or some sort of disfigured abomination.
>>739449678lmao
>>739449506That’s not what makes it a beautiful game.
Dark Souls and all games similar to it or inspired by it are gay.
>>739449735The world, lore, symbolism, level design, world design, combat, OST, enemy design.
>>739449758seethe.
>>739449678Is this game good if I want a game where I can look like guts?
dark soles 3
>>739449964Can DS3 and ERfags stop using concept art for one fucking day, I swear to God. Elden Ring doesn't even look bad enough to justify this.
>>739450271DS3 looks like complete shit though
>>739450271that's a literal screenshot you inbred retard
In terms of art, maybe.But not as a package deal.
>>739450089yes
>>739449678>>739449964trvke>>739450089Yes>>739449735Ackchually, to paraphrase it, Fromsoft values the preservation of dignity in ruin. I'm not gonna bother digging out the specific interview but Miyazaki made a point of NOT making misery porn but making everything preserve a sense of majesty even if it's ruined and decaying. His specific example was the undead dragon from DS1.
>>739449678
>>739450271
>>739449435Ico
>>739451008Illusion of Gaia is better in every way. Terranigga still good, but just not quite as good
>>739449678Elden Ring would be a better game if they removed the horse, removed fast travel, and populated the open world with at least 5x the amount of enemies it has (and also added actual shit to interact with)
>>739451213nah
>>739451160TPBP
>>739451210Can someone explain the appeal of this game to me? A lot of people say the combat is good, but it seems very simple. I haven’t made it past the escort mission yet. I just don’t understand the game, how do I get into it?
>>739451384The horse sucks because its a cheese fest. Fast travel sucks because you avoid all the real adventure. The world sucks because is empty and truly boring.
>>739451573Get to the city and change your job. Don't do any more escort missions
>>739451573>I haven’t made it past the escort mission yetkick the ox to make it move fasterthe game is great and grigori is the best villain ever created stick with the game, get through that dumb ox quest and you'll reach the main citydon't forget to travel back to cassardis from time to time to visit the villagers, more quests will pop up
>>739451767How long does it take to move past the beginning weapon and “armor”? I installed a Berserk equipment mod from the PS3 release of the game, would I be able to get that early in the game?
>>739449435The game looks like shit dude and it already looked like shit in 2011
>>739452563SOVL
>>739452563I mean that looks pretty shit but if you wanted a really shitty example, a Lost Izalith screenshot would have been a better one
>>739449435Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
>>739451213Elden Ring would be a better game if they removed the horse and the open world. It adds nothing but making it a chore to replay
>>739452231>How long does it take to move past the beginning weapon and “armor”?as soon as you reach the city also I think the berserk stuff should be inside your chest, in the inn
>>739451587>>739451213Torrent is great but you shouldn't unlock him until several hours into the game.There's actually lots of little things around limgrave to do and small but neat encounters scattered around, but none of them are really worth it compared to just getting Torrent and running to the same 6 pickups every playthrough because you can have a 50% complete character in 10 minutes. The teleporter to Dragonbarrow should also have a hard boss you have to beat to get past and pick up the late game shit.
>>739453773Oh and I forgot to say, fast travel should only be between Churches until you finish the capital or something
>>739453918>fast travel should only be between Churches until you finish the capital or somethinggood idea
>>739451573Look up the break points for missable quests
>>739449735How is this not beautifulhttps://youtu.be/3DpDlyYYHCQ
>>739449435>Is there any game that comes close to Dark Souls?No
>>739449623Same, but the opposite. It created in me a craving to chase down sexual deviants, no matter how much they try to run, and kill them.
>>739451204Story is shit in Gaia, which is the best part of Nigma. The twists are insane. The bird scene at the end...
It's so ass compared to OG Demon's Souls
>>739451587>Fast travel sucks because you avoid all the real adventureThere's no adventure in walking back to places you've already been. The game would not be improved at all if you had to walk all the way back from Altus Plateau through Liurnia that you've already cleared, then through Limgrave that you've already cleared, just so you can go to Caelid for the festival. That's just padding the run time with no gameplay.
>>7394494353 panned him but I view Gwyns choice to kindle the flame almost Prometheus like based off of 1.It's a tragic and noble act that while maybe misguided or nor wholly good, is done out of a place of wanting to preserve what ultimately was a good thingHe gets painted like a selfish self serving cunt, but the man went to burn for eternity to prolong what was ultimately a good time for everyone
>>739460298>There's no adventure in walking back to places you've already been. There should be, otherwise its a pretty shitty game.
>>739449735Ash Lake.
>>739449435Dark Souls is a bad game only enjoyed by impotent assholes.
>>739462548Name a good game.
>>739449678fpbp
>>739462625Super Metroid.
>>739462660tbpb althougheverbeit
>>739462690>tendie>hates dark soulsHAHAHAHAHA
>>739462804>No! You don't understand! The more vague and bullshit the game is, the more I feel like I actually did something with my life when I have to put in 60 hours instead of 15 into it! I do it so I can go online and gloat that I'm a "real gamer" to the undercaste!And they told me "just use pyromancer". Fuck that, I don't want to feel like I'm using a crutch.
>>739453773This is such a wageslave mentality to gayman. Slow the fuck down and make your own fun. The game lets you.
>>739463018>just do the game design for the developers and allow me to sidestep issues of pacing etc by calling you namesno. "make your own fun" is derided for a reason. it's an excuse to avoid having to think about intention and structure. it inevitably leads to game design that culminates in "collect 100 rocks, kill 100 enemies, leave epic streamer bait exploits for people who just want digital legos instead of a game"
>>739449435Was just playing it today. The answer is still no. Will never be topped until I learn japanese, move to japan, and protest outside fromsoft hq every day until miyazacki gives the greenlight to have me personally direct a remake with full creative control.
>>739449435DS2, Elden Ring, and tons of other games in the same genre. Dark Souls 1 isn't anything spectacular visually. You're on nostalgia mode.
>>739449435Demon'sSouls. (Not Remake)It comes closest to DarkSoulsOne in terms of feel.If you never played DeS, then give it a try. If you rlly liked DaS1 you also would like DeS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3nckWeT-m0
>>739452563>The game looks like shit dude and it already looked like shit in 2011That means you never played it then.I played it for the first time somewhat at the end of 2013 or beginning of 2014, and i thought that it looked very good, both artistically and graphically on Ps3 back then.
>>739464194This.
>>739462972You didn’t play the game. What the fuck do you know about it?
>>739462972skill issue.
>>739451213From going with the themepark style open world is the biggest mistake they ever made. They had every opportunity to make navigation as threatening as it is in Dark Souls but they wanted to cater to BOTWfags instead.
Why does ER cause so much seething? Because it's popular?
>>739467226because its shit
>>739460848Consolidating his tribe's power and his legacy was not noble, he was selfish and controlling. It also was not promethean because pygmies absolutely did not need a parasitic first flame devouring their dark soul, suppressing their true nature and giving them fates of persecution, enslavement, and other abuses just for something reverting that they have no understanding of or control over. It would have been noble if Gwyn and his kin hadn't set up so many deceptions and obfuscations. Imagine how much healthier and stable human civilization would have been if they understood their dark soul and the issues of entropy. People wouldn't just wake up dead and be persecuted for it while their homeland freaks out about the undead. Maybe Gwyn's tribe and humanity's take turns linking the flame? That would be fair. Most likely hundreds unrelated to Gwyn linked the flame until Lothric and Lorian were forced to by necessity.
>>739449435I liked DS3's apocalypse more. Really sold the idea of a dead world that was just tired in a way that DS1 didn't touch on. >>739449678Elden Ring is beautiful but in a different way from the Dark Souls series.
>>739467226because /v/ got filtered by the difficulty
>>739450271Elden Ring's concept art kinda sucks as a collector because it appears to have largely been made of game assets on the fly and has this jank photobash look.The dev cycle seemed to have been back-and-forth between creating assets, creating concept art with those assets, implementing that, and then doing adjustments on the fly.
>>739449435Its kind of whack how dense and designed the first half of the game is compared to ds2 which plays more like a series of dungeon crawlers. Accidentally stumbling around and finding shortcuts from places like the depths to firelink is crazy
>>739451213Go play dragons dogma
>>739469613>because /v/ got filtered by the difficulty>play str or bleed>you control the bosses movesetYea, difficult.
>>739472706still harder than DS1
>>739450089Berserk is one of the main influences for DS, I mean just look at Artorias
>>739463739I loved DS1 when I first played it, but I don't think I can stomach how unfinished it was now. DS3 is a game that I hated when I first played it, but now I can't stop playing it.
>>739469613lothric knight is a perfect example of why these games fell offthe older games were reactive but the enemies had different behaviours because they weren't programmed around what you were doing but what they "wanted" to do in the world. the mind flayer exists in the tower of latria, it's a jailer so it wants to patrol up and down, the challenge comes from the mixture of level layout and the enemy's behaviour. take the enemy out of the level and they wouldn't make much sense and they also wouldn't be as challengingthe newer games are still reactive but the enemies ais don't "want" to do anything, they have no purpose in the world and are programmed around what the player is doing. the logic is obvious if-then-else stuff eg if you heal an enemy will lunge forward to catch you out. once you understand how this works you begin to internalise it and the game has essentially turned you into another one of its ais doing your own if-then-else algorithm. this makes encounters feel flat. it's all the same shit, whereas mind flayers, gargoyles, dogs, rolley skeletons, hoplites, reapers etc feel like distinct things to fight against. you could place the lothric knight anywhere in das3 and it wouldn't change how you would approach it or how the level feels to play. imagine the cool stuff they could have came up with if they had kept this attitude towards enemy/encounter design instead of giving us the same dodge and counter cookie cutter action shit for over a decade.
black souls
>>739450089Yeah you can play as Guts. Some of the bosses are just straight up apostles. The game has every item you would need to cosplay Temu Guts but obviously there are mods that give you the actual look.
>>739475620didnt read not my problem cope seethe
>>739475620I read it. Holy based.
>>739460848>He gets painted like a selfish self serving cunt, but the man went to burn for eternity to prolong what was ultimately a good time for everyoneHe fucked over humans specifically because he feared them and the age of dark. He's responsible for the undead curse. Along with Frampt, the entire prophecy of the chosen undead was a big fabrication to fool people who didn't know any better to be kindling for a dying era. The natural order of things should be the age of fire and the age of dark taking turns, but he was afraid, and did everything in his power to overturn that even if it meant the entire world going to shit. It definitely wasn't a 'good time for everyone', and even if he thought he was doing the right thing, that's not really an excuse for everything he did
Playing this for the first time right now. Not enjoying it even a little bit. Curious what the payoff is for learning the mechanics and "gitting gud." Why should I bother if it's just an enemy gauntlet and boss rush?
>>739479402What even is this post? Stick to mario I guess.
>>739462518>a giant empty foggy desertso fvking... beautiful
>>739479568What is fun about it? Legitimate question. What is there to do besides fight enemies which is not enjoyable?
>>739449735chuds, just like trannies, see ugliness and death as beautiful
>>739479678Do you normally only play animal crossing or something?
>>739479765Typical soulsfag response. I'm asking you in good faith why I should take the time to learn this game you like and you can't name a single thing about it you enjoy. Just a masochist wankoff game I guess
>>739475620Now day this same thing but switch Mind Flayers with Irithill Jailers and Lothric Knights with Boletaria Knights.
>>739479402don't bother, the only reason people like the game is that it came out at an era where gaming was becoming increasingly casualised, so this was a "stick it to them" moment. also /v/ has shit taste.the best reward you'll get is random npcs spouting cryptic dialogue.>>739479568>>739479765just look at these niggas who can't even comprehend that their rollslop is not fun
>>739479869I don't care what you do faggot.
>>739479869kek not bad for ragebait
>>739479905This is the weirdest troll post I've seen in a while if you don't like a game just go back to playing what you like. Simple as that. Retard.
>>739479678Fighting enemies, obtaining the items they protect, improving yourself so you can fight stronger and stronger enemies.Also, if you're so inclined, discovering how the world ended up the way it is.
>>739479917>>739479919Just tell me what you like about game. Why is this so impossible for you?
>>739479869he already correctly told you to fuck off to whatever fisher price slop you enjoy, faggot
>>739479975Thank you. When did fighting enemies become enjoyable for you?
>fucking weird ass jew showed upyeah of course
>>739479991I like doing no hit runs while your mom deepthroats me bitchass nigga
>>739480102
>>739480003>>739480102couple of faggots
>>739480157but enough about you and your brother
>>739449435There's a black and white indie souls coming. Psx graphics and you play as doll. Sou it's a soulsborne of p clone, lol.
christ you'd think a game that spawned a dozen sequels and it's own genre would have at least one redeeming quality that its fans could point out but they're too busy jerking each other off about how hard they are for slogging through the shit for no reason
>>739480271I'm sure you will get a new mario or animal crossing soon or maybe the next zelda will be a soulslike lmao
>>739480042When i started to understand how they move and how they should be approached. Also, when you find the weapon you like.
>>739480271the redeeming quality is ummm uhhhh*makes jokes about your mom*there take that
that tarnished edition is coming to switch soon so you can just calm your tits and go shitpost about uhhh bloodborne or something instead
>>739479402What makes these games so beautiful are everything stated in >>739449920>The worldI don't know where you are in the game right now, but as you progress, you'll see how truly great the design and feel is. I wouldn't want to spoil anything, but this game by far has the best world design out of any game ever made. You'll understand as you progress.>symbolismIf you couldnt tell by now, there are lots of allegories. Hollowing happens once you lose your way or meaning. You become a shell of a human. This is why NPCs tell you to not hollow. You're losing all meaning, all hope, and losing yourself.This is obviously the equivalent to becoming disillusioned. The minute you quit the game, you become hollow.>combatThe beauty of souls combat lies in it's simplicity. Every single weapon has a moveset that you can use to beat the entire game. Every weapon is also simple in it's movesets, making them easy to learn. Each enemy has a moveset that you must adapt to. However, enemy's movesets are also simple.TL;DR: Just keep playing the game.
>>739480668Don't even bother with shitposters my dude, they don't deserve it.
>>739480709Fuck man, Elden Ring is such a beautiful game.
>>739480923all from games are I don't even think that's my best er collab but I'm druk and chinked eyed right now
>>739480668>it gets good i promisethis is another indoctrination tactic from the soulsfag. they try to stockholm-syndrome you.
>>739480969bro... is that a sky with a castle in the distance? so fvking beautiful...
I'm so tired of tendie bullshitXenoblade does not get good 40 hours in btw This is dd:da before some tendie tries to say some gay shit I'm pretty sure this game is available on your tablet
tendies desperate huh ok here you go I did like botwbuy a pc you cheap fucktards you can play everything on it
>>739480969Do you have a DeS collage?
>>739481090i like how this one has screenshots of gameplay and the dark souls ones are all just dude standing in the "screenshot spot"
>>739481134lol kinda
>>739481149how about you post something instead of just being a parasite you jeet faggot
Why do they hold their shields upside down though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JiOdg21muAcan someone make clear to me the inputsis the uploader retarded or it is me?
>>739480997That's not what I'm saying you fucking jeet. Study english moar.
>>739481194>join my vidya collage circlejerkno thank you
>>739481335What the fuck is your problem? Seriously? Stop memeing clearly something is wrong.
>>739481326>Keep playing the game. Nah I never said it gets good. Just keep playing
>>739481445Yes, you have to finish a game to understand it. I know you're baiting though, so it doesn't really matter what the fuck you do.DaS is on switch btw.
>>739481547You have to watch the entire 10 hours of "Watching paint dry" to fully understand it.
>>739460298Then why make me go back to them?
>>739469504>>739477342>3 panned himNothing shows dark was the natural order or that it will actually be good for man besides an utter reprehensible character saying it is soGwyn doesn't send anyone to burn, he went himself, and anything from the abyss in 1 is shown as being absolutely awful for everyone
>>739449678held back by the dogshit weapon upgrade bottlenecking. I played the game again normally and at one point I needed 2 smithing stone[4] to get to next upgrade tier and I had 10+ higher tier stones each. I got like 6 upgrades in one go because this shit game has no idea how to balance shit.
>>739475620You are retarded lmao.
>>739449678Elden Ring is the Saskatchewan of souls games.It's a big fucking field with the occasional group of buildings, and everyone you bump in to is either a stage 6 crackhead hell bent on taking your copper or the nicest person you've ever met (unless they're red), and the people in charge are a bit retarded.Shit's boring.
>>739452563The back field of Seath's area is pretty awful compared to the rest of the game, felt like an everquest zone.
>>739449435E33
>>739479402>Curious what the payoff is for learning the mechanics and "gitting gud."Because once you're good, it's fun.Slowly becomes a dance between the enemy and you as you learn how they work and slowly figure out how to beat them.Best part is the first one isn't even that hard, so it's actually pretty straightforward to learn, and shit just kinda makes sense part way in and there's almost no "HAHA! FUCK YOU! THE BOSS EXPECTED THAT CLEVER TRICK! BACK TO THE LOADING SCREEN RETARD!" moments. >see big dumb orge of an enemy, bait his attack and backstab>enemy dragon hanging on a cliff? spam arrows at him from out of his range>boss summons a copy half way through the fight? start the fight with solare summoned so they can't just focus you>auto lockon makes it harder to control your character when trying to juke around the enemy? just turn it the fuck off when it's gonna get in the wayIt rewards you for getting mechanically better at the game by letting you stomp all over the game, and doesn't start by stamping on your balls unless it's trying to get a point across to you.
>>739449506The combat isn't what makes dark souls special. it's part of it sure but making it the sole focus is why all soulslikes suck
>>739452563moron
>>739475620Best post ITT, brainlet anon's should learn from this
>>739449678This and Skyrim
b-beautiful...
>>739475620The enemies in DeS were some of the best in the series because of what you described. In DaS3 most enemies, especially in the beginnjng can be described as: hollow that you can stunlock, or hollow that has some poise and can't be stunlocked. Meanwhile in DeS every level featured enemies that are fought in different ways
>>739489285>the absolute size of that health bar
>>739487951>>739489285Cherrypicking the one area in the game that genuinely looks awful but you literally go through it in 10 seconds
>>739489446>the one area
>>739489549Whatever faggot, what games do you like?
>>739489285>no stam>all health>stam shield>no favor ring (didn't kill golden gaylord on the spot)You're only noticing how barren that area is because you still haven't figured out how to deal with Seath's wide AoE attack and have probably had to run through it 50+ times now.
