>jedi are weak to backshot
heh

>>739450075
I'll bite, what's the in-iniverse explenation for the entire Jedi order jobbing to a bunch of grunts?

>>739450547
not the op, but if you want a real answer, its because there were a LOT of grunts with blasters and even the best jedi with the sharpest prescience is still subject to physics, so its literally impossible to block or deflect all the blaster shots when they're all coming at once

>>739450547
Surprise attack + overwhelming majority

>>739450547
there were like 10k jedi spanning the entire galaxy with the war spreading them all apart

just in terms of raw numbers there was nothing they could do against the near-mechanical precision at which order 66 was executed

>>739450662
>Surprise attack
The jedi had the force though. Luke could block blaster shots blindfolded from the day he started training, iirc you see younglings doing that in the temple too.

>>739450547
Another explanation is that the rapid death of so many Jedi created a cascade effect.

Jedi would feel sudden overwhelming pain from other Jedi dying, which would distract them and get them killed, which would be felt by other Jedi, etc, etc.

>>739450793
Not like that, they didn't expect the troopers they spent 3 years fighting together to suddenly turn on them.

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>>739450075
Treachery is the MO of the Sith.

>>739450075
If they had the dark side they would've lived

Working with your fellow Sith must be exhausting. Every day, it's someone on the ship screaming about their pain, or their anger issues, or their schemes to kill everyone on board.

>>739450617
>>739450662
>>739450784
Nope, unless they were ordered to spread their shots over such a wide area and there were so many that they could shoot them in a dense grid and they were perfectly synced like machines to the extent that force speed and force jumping were impossible, it's still bullshit.

George couln't think of a way to explain why the order doesn't exist in 6, so he came up with the laziest reason possible.

>>739450872
you know if disney had a brain, 7 8 and 9 would have focused on the rise of a new separatist movement inspired by dooku
rather than the pile of unmitigated steaming dogshit that they did make
poor dooku never did get the credit he deserved, not even in the clone wars which fleshed him out a little bit but not enough

>>739451086
I forget, what did Count Dooku want with a Post-Republic Galaxy? What was his endgame?

>>739450547
The other answers are all missing the most important piece: the emperor was using the dark side of the Force to cloud their foresight. He's incredibly adept at that particular skill, as evidenced by his ability to interact with basically the entire Jedi Council at some point in-person and NOT ONE of them detected his abilities or dark side attunement at any point, not did any of them foresee any of his plans. There were a few close calls, but they came far too late and he easily killed or subverted any investigations that came anywhere near discovering his grand design. Order 66 was just another one of his many machinations against the Jedi that he was able to cloak from their supernatural prescience using his own power.

That's the TRUE power that made Darth Sidious such a threat. It wasn't his skill with a lightsaber or lightning, but his ability to manipulate and hide.

>>739451042
Nigga those were not your generic stormtroopers. They were clones of JANGO FETT
BEST BOUNTY HUNTER IN THE GALAXY
If 10 clone troopers cant bring down 1 jedi thats even more retarded

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>darkside gets force lightning
>lightside gets hold person
>darkside: force choke
>lightside: haste
>penalty for darkside is that you need to be a jerk
>penalty for lightside is that you don't get cool force powers

>>739451042
>perfectly synced like machines to the extent that force speed and force jumping were impossible
but anon, they were
you have to remember that the clone troopers were literally CLONES of jango fett, who was bar none the most talented and skilled bounty hunter, soldier, and marksman at the time. yes, his son boba fett was better than him, and yes jango jobbed to mace windu but he was still an incredible specimen which is why he was used as the template

the entire clone army were masterful combatants and strategists and were all quite literally brothers who had the exact same thought processes; they had the precision and coordination of machines while still being humans because they were clones

add that on top of the fact that powers like force speed and jumping arent nearly as common as you think they were and pretty much only the top tier of jedi had shit like that; people like yoda, obi-wan, and anakin. the ONLY jedi who died in the purges which i feel is a bullshit death is ki-adi-mundi, who if you know anything about, was on the same power level as obi-wan and mace windu

everyone else, the deaths make complete sense when you're dogpiled by hundreds if not thousands of blaster shots all at the same time from multiple angles

>>739451201
He was instrumental in forming the basics behind what the galactic empire would look like.

>>739451201
He wanted to create a Sith empire out of the remnants of the Jedi order according to the EU at least. Not sure about canon. Dooku went into his fight with Anakin and Obi-Wan expecting to kill the latter and then be captured by the former and be held prisoner until the end of the war, using Grievous as a scapegoat for the blame.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fist_of_the_Empire_(group)

>>739451201
dooku wanted to play the sith (aka sidious) by pretending to be their ally so as to overthrow both the republic in its then form AND sidious who was manipulating events behind the scenes, and establish a new aristocratic galactic government with himself as the leader, chiefly to erase what he saw as corruption endemic to democratic governance. he also wanted to detach the jedi from political entanglements, which he felt corrupted the order as a whole. funnily enough he also wanted obi-wan to join him and be his right hand man and successor

basically, he didnt want an empire to be formed, he wanted a unitary government headed by aristocratic bloodlines (such as himself) who were groomed and trained for leadership from birth

>>739451306
>jango jobbed to mace windu
He was also humbling Obi Wan earlier in the movie. It's safe to say anyone whos not Yoda or Mace would be able to do much against multiple clone troopers. Obi got lucky by sneaking out in Utapau

>>739451306
>as obi-wan and mace windu
Obi wan is not even on the level of Mace who almost Palpy

>>739450547
They trusted the grunts shooting them in the back with their lives for three years of constant war, due to indoctrination of whichever canon you subscribe to most of them never sensed a thing, and most of those that did assumed the danger was something else.

>>739450547
I just assumed the average jedi is pretty useless compared the significant characters

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>>739451306
>Jobbed to one of the greatest duelists within the order.
>Jobbed to the Jedi that defeated Sidious in a duel. Sid giggles needed to be saved by Anakin.
>Jobbed to the master of shatter point, that can literally detect the weakness in anything animate or inanimate.
>Jobbed to the master of Vaapad, a force multiplier during combat against aggressive attackers and dark side users.
>Jobbed to a master of telekinesis, that can turn his hands into weapons that shatter armor and stone.
Mother fucker, did you mistake Mace Windu as Ki-Adi-Mundi?

>>739451042
Jedi aren't that strong. They've never been that strong or adept. Luke was particularly strong in the Force and he almost get his head blown off multiple times facing only a couple shooters at once when he fully knew they were going to be shooting at him.

It's like you secondaries and tourists think Jedi is synonymous with Super Saiyan or some bullshit.

>>739451605
its described and displayed multiple times that obi-wan is on the same level as mace windu, anakin, and yoda, all four of them being the most powerful jedi to exist, right? they just specialized in different fields
yoda: the force
obi-wan: defensive lightsaber combat
anakin and mace: aggressive lightsaber combat

like, obi-wan was touted as the galaxy's best practitioner of soresu form

Also, many Jedi didn't have experience fighting Clones, only Droids, which is why Anakin had Ahsoka train against the 501st.

It's not like all of them died to clones. That's why we have the inquisition.

>>739451727
a lot of people are retarded and dont realize that canonically the power of force users has sharply declined as the star wars timeline moves forward. the old republic era saw jedi and sith who could both slap the shit out of the likes of sidious or yoda without breaking a sweat, so they look at this and start to falsely conflate those power levels with the OG trilogy power levels

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>>739451294
Jedi Academy makes it more fair because the force-absorbing (and thus also force-blocking) force...field? is a light-side power (basically that thing that Yoda always used in the movies against force lightning), along with the force-heal, although the dark side also has a life-steal power, which on paper seems superior to a normal heal because it also damages the enemy, however the life-steal can also be blocked by aforementioned force-absorbing light-side power, while force heal cannot be blocked at all. Also force speed is a neutral power.

>>739451680
That's pretty much how they get portrayed in comics and stuff. Every time Vader hunts down one of the remaining Jedi, they have all these advantages and he still fucks them up easily.

>>739451727
This is /v/, and I think a lot of the "Jedi are basically invincible" perception comes from video games. In KotOR or Jedi Knight, you see a single Jedi use basically all the known Force powers and fuck up giant groups of combatants with ease. Very different from the losers who die to a single battle droid.

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>>739450075
>the dark side of the force is more powerful!
He meant it in a different way.

>>739451905
>and he still fucks them up easily.
I mean that goes without saying, he's literally the chosen one.

>>739451905
>In KotOR or Jedi Knight, you see a single Jedi use basically all the known Force powers and fuck up giant groups of combatants with ease. Very different from the losers who die to a single battle droid.
KotoR 1/2 also has jedis getting 'recked by random mercenaries with Vibro blades though.

>>739450547
Clone troopers aren't grunts, and Jedi wouldn't have sensed any deception from the clones because they weren't being deceptive, they were just following orders.

>>739450075
Why didn’t the empire use the leftover battle droids after the war? The rebellion would’ve been fucked if Palpy had the foresight to stick a few droidekas in endor’s shield bunker

>>739450872
I like how he never cared about the fact that his underlings would perform war crimes on civilians who didn't even have any relation to the war or the Republic

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>>739450793
Even with a few seconds of future sight, what are you going to do when you have an entire battalion surrounding you that moments earlier were on your side and you didn't suspect were going to attack you?
Under those conditions most of those Jedi are going to die. With a few exceptional ones escaping (and that's what happened anyways)

>>739451727
>Luke was particularly strong in the Force and he almost get his head blown off multiple times facing only a couple shooters at once
After five minutes of force training.

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sometimes jedi can sense person another side of galaxy but when one is breathing next to them they cant sense anything

>>739452037
Palpy is all about control. He is afraid that someone manages to "hack" any droid army he has.

>>739451727
You can thank retarded powerscalers like death battle for that shit, nothing can ever be taken at face value.

>>739452121
They can also use the force to hide themselves. You know, like how Palpatine did for years right in front of the fucking jedi council.

>>739450547
Most Jedi weren't at the level of Yoda or Obi-Wan their senses weren't good enough before it was too late.

>>739451997
Right. But also, the comics make it pretty clear that Anakin is ton weaker, at least at first, as Vader in his suit. The first iteration of his suit is super junky, designed to break underneath him at the worst moments, and basically a torture device. He fixes it up over time to where it's a bit more reliable. Even fighting uphill, Anakin is head and shoulders above most "powerful" Jedi.

>>739452023
Also a good point. I think people just forget that sometimes and equate normal Jedi power levels to "main character" type Jedi.

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>>739452037
CISfags conveniently forget that Dooku was complacent when Grievous was committing war crimes and genocide on a galactic scale lmao

>>739450793
> Luke could block blaster shots blindfolded from the day he started training
Yeah. Against something that a standard training tool, not even some Jedi relic Obiwan had carried around with him.
Also we are talking about the son of the fucking messiah. Pretty sure what Luke could do on his first day might be the career's crowning of a sizeable chunk of all Jedi.
The movies only really show the combat-oriented ones, and mostly council masters-tier. Pretty sure the old librarian would have had a hard time handling more than a single trooper.

>>739452186
thats pretty well established to be something that only palpatine and plagueis knew how to do anon
its not like jedi get to choose from a list of powers to get when they sign up or just develop them naturally and instinctively. you have to be trained in specific applications of the force, usually for a very long time, to achieve doing even simple things like minor telekinesis

this is, also, one of the reasons why everything touched by disney is a heresy and should not be considered canon, because they frequently try to showcase characters just doing shit off the cuff witohut training which is complete bullshit

>>739452121
The Sith in the movies are really good at hiding. That's their most dangerous skill, really. The Darth Bane books go into it some, about how Bane decides that in order for his Rule of Two to work, he needs to develop his skill hiding his presence, otherwise he'll just attract the attention of his enemies and they could crush him with superior numbers. Bane utilizes a combination of regular Force powers and Sith "magic" to devise an extra-powerful method for concealment that lets him and his apprentice covertly do a bunch of crazy shit.

>>739450075
First batches of clones didn't suck, simple as is.
They were cloned from a galaxy-renowned bounty hunter: a guy who hunted and survived a fuck ton of professional guards, killer droids, and a whole bunch of variously-sensitive-to-the-force targets.
1 vs 1, in the open vs a master, he is fried.
100 vs 1, with the element of surprise and heavy weaponry support? Piss of cake.

The force is strong. But not that strong.

The rank and file Clone Troopers were pretty good, but even Arc Troopers, Clone Commandos, and the Bad Batch struggled against war-hardened force users.

>>739452251
And it wasn't just Grievous commiting war crimes in the Seppies either, and besides, wasn't Grievous an honorable warrior while he was still biological? Like what the fuck happened that mindbroke him so hard to start commiting war crimes like that

>>739450547
leaving aside the other answers ITT the vast majority of jedi were not anywhere near as combat capable as the big characters, which makes sense when you consider 1000 years of peace.
remember mace took what presumably were the best combatants available to geonosis in II and like 90% of them get killed by battle droids in the arena

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IT'S NOT FAIR

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>>739452470
>Like what the fuck happened that mindbroke him so hard to start commiting war crimes like that
Losing his dick

>>739451294
Why is lightning even a dark side thing? Why is killing someone with lightning bad but killing someone with a force push or cutting someone in half with a saber ok? I can understand why choking or draining someone's life is considered evil, but lighting is just an element.

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>>739451782
First, Juyo is aggressive. Vaapad is a variant of Juyo that's balanced, it's a force multiplier. The harder you come at its practitioner, the more it returns exponentially.

Secondly, Obi-Wan was an average force wielder. His strength came in the form of his mastery over Soresu. Later in life, he was trained and influenced by the force ghost of Qui-Gon Jinn. That full power only manifested after he sacrificed himself to Vader to become a manifestation of the force himself.

>>739452470
>wasn't Grievous an honorable warrior while he was still biological?
He earned the name Grievous before he was cyborg because of his cruelty and tactical brilliance. Since he was trained by his father as a sniper and guerilla fighter, I highly doubt there was much honor involved.

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>>739452598
>remember mace took what presumably were the best combatants available to geonosis
They brought this guy and he sucked ass even though he was a Jedi Master so they probably grabbed pretty much whoever was available. But it still proves the point that some Jedi just aren't cut out for combat.

>>739450547
Most jedi are genuinely just pretty bad in combat

>>739452770
He almost killed Dooku and went toe to toe with the greatest bounty hunter

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One thing that's always bothered me is the fact that according to the canon, the whole Clone Army was comprised of only a few million clones, how was a few million clones enough to fight in the whole galaxy? It should have been something like hundreds of millions if not billions of clones, the first battle of Geonosis had like 200k clones fighting on the whole planet, meanwhile irl we had battles where millions of men fought and died, the scale never made any sense, and I won't even go about the "stand in open ground with no cover and shoot the droids" tactic

>>739452732
Because shooting lightning from your fingies is MOST unnatural

Also there was a light side version of it in the EU anyway lmao

>>739452770
nah they were unironically the best of the best.
reminder the guys he took to confront sheev were literally every high council member on coruscant beside anakin and palps kills everyone but mace in under 10 seconds

>>739452732
Sith Lightning is shooting concentrated hatred out of your hands, it's not generating electricity with the Force.

>>739452732
Because Lightning is manifested through extreme emotion. Both Jedi and Sith can use lightning but the Jedi view it as a path to the dark side. In legends, Luke Skywalker creates a variant of Force Lightning called Electric Judgment. Like the name implies, it draws from a the sense of justice over aggressive emotions. Granted, that's not canon anymore, so...

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>>739452470
The Huk killed his first lover and dumped her in the sea. Then when the republic came to aid, they supported the dindu bugs and starved his wives and children to death. It’s no surprise he went full retard.

Would Grievous holocaust the jews for the love of the game or because he'd be anti-semitic?

>>739452876
Clones (like droids) can be grown quickly so the army was always fully stocked, it didn't lose numbers like armies IRL. Also most battles of the war involved planetary civil wars with just a legion of clones supporting/leading local armies.

>>739452976
I guess that makes sense.
>>739452909
>>739453038
Of course there's a cool light side version of it that's not canon anymore, thanks Didney.

>>739451983
Look at those moves!

>>739453168
love of the game unless they were the group who fucked his people over like the insect shits in lore

>>739451983
As stupid as this game was, I also think it really captures the "dumb fun" aspect of Star Wars that Lucas was known for that Disney just can't seem to replicate at all, at least outside of their theme parks.

>>739451983
The Star Wars franchise peaked here
https://youtu.be/lg_FoEy8T_A?si=0Mr54Mr-1R23Evw-

>>739451983
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

>>739451306
Well, Ki-Adi Mundi was in probably the worst position a Jedi could be in when Order 66 when out: pinned between Separatist droids and his own men on a small bridge with no cover and nowhere to run. He was powerful, he KNEW what was happening, but it's like you said, not much you can do when you get dogpiled like that.

Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJZFLeYJrn0&list=RDyJZFLeYJrn0&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaU3RhciB3YXJzIG10diBtdXNpYyB2aWRlbyCgBwE%3D

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Int beats str
But dex beats int

>>739454320
lmao this is great

>>739450547
because most of them were trainees and children.

>>739454451
>0:05
Smug Palpy

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>>739450547
The clones are broken as fuck. Their template is based off of a sith/jedi killer (Jango Fett), this is literally the plotline for the ps2 Bounty Hunter game.
The jedi were already blind and complacent, and when they get swarmed by 20+ jedi killers out of nowhere in the back then yes, they job hard.

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>>739454746
In the old lore the commandos and ARC troopers were trained by mandalorians too, they were basically Jango-lites

>>739450547
Most Jedi aren't particularly strong and are vulnerable to even being swarmed by a platoon of battle droids if they aren't careful

>>739450793
It was a plot point that the Jedi had lost their connection to the Force.

>>739450793
how many blaster shots per second could he stop though?
that's like saying "a CIWS can shoot down enemy missiles", ok, how many missiles per second can it shoot down? add more than that and it's dead, same with the jedi

>>739454746
>>739454939
Aussies are overpowered

>>739451727
This. The average Jedi is weak as shit, the only reason they seem strong is that we focus on the strong ones. Only a handful of Jedi mattered for Order 66 to be successful anyway.

Yoda, Mace, Ki-Adi, Obi-Wan, Kit, Plo, Ahsoka, Shaak Ti, Aayla

That is really about it, everyone else is largely irrelevant in terms of stopping Palpatine or having any chance at rebuilding the Jedi, so lets take it 1x1.

>Yoda
Lives but on Kashyyyk
>Obi-Wan
Lives but on Utapau
>Mace
Taken out by Anakin/Vader
>Shaak Ti
Dies 700 times, but lets be nice and say Anakin/Vader at the Temple
>Aayla
Shot in the back on Felucia, bit a stretch here with this one honestly unless they were stun blasters and they dumped her in a sarlacc afterwards
>Plo
Easily shot down on Cato Nemodia
>Ki Aid
Easily outgunned and outnumbered on Mygeeto
>Kit
Killed by Sidious

Vader/Sidious alone take out like a third of what they really need to be successful and the rest are completely fine barring Aayla's.

>>739454451
Thank you for cutting to the shot of the lightsaber falling or I would have never known what happened to it!

>>739455970
I'd imagine it was probably originally Mace's body, and they replaced it with the lightsaber because it wasn't kid friendly enough for Lucas, would be my guess. Or it's just one of those weird ass things Lucas does. Either way it's Lucas.

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>>739450075
DEWIT DEWIT DEWIT DEWIT DEWIT DEWIT

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>>739456146

>>739452285
The overall impression from the (6) movies and the ("Extended Universe") games I get is that the dark side is better at long-term and corrupting mental (and presence) interference while the light side is better at short-term and instantaneous mental (and presence) interference.
So Sith are better at secretly mingling with the light side and spying on and corrupting the Jedi and others for years. While Jedi are better at covert ops and the like where they enter an area, do what they need to do within a few hours or so, then leave and go on their way.

>>739450547
Everything missed the actual reason actually established by the fucking prequels
>Every clone is a clone of Jango Fett, the mandaloriwn bounty hunter that 1v1'd Obiwan and only jobbed to mace windu because callback callforward bloodline jetpack malfunctions.

Each individual white armor standard clone would have good odds against a died to droids lol tier background Jedi. The whole war was a Gambit to get Jedi alone, cut off from help, and fighting squads of them.

The fight against Obiwan in the rain and then in space, and Obiwan losing, is not so subtle foreshadowing of the clones capabilities. The onscreen clone wars showing them just fragging Jedi doesn't convey their skill well. The 501st storming the temple is also a complete seal clubbing which undercuts it for a different reason. On screen Jedi are so weak it makes the guys capable of killing them also look weak and non special.

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>EUslop
ETERNAL REMINDER

>>739455960
>Dies 700 times, but lets be nice and say Anakin/Vader at the Temple
Nope. To me she got killed by Starkiller. Everyone has to make up their own canon based on what they watched/read/played.

>>739452876
1. The lower end of clones numbers is retarded especially when in the film itself 'units' is never extrapolated, some authors went with the lowest numbers possible but they are again retarded.
2. Most of the actual fighting in the Clone Wars isn't between clones and droids but between local Republic or CIS aligned forces that aren't as glamorous to focus on. Some Star Wars sourcebooks go into this but one of the more prominent examples is the Jabiim arc in the Republic comics and the novel Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover.

>>739452732
well the most important point, the emperor did it in the movie.

i always thought personally all force users can use powers like that its just the choice to actually use it that makes you bad

>>739452251
Wdym "conveniently forget"? I fully support it.

>>739456132
it's a callback to Empire
Darth "fuck them hands" Vader

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>>739458191
>the EU isn't canon
>except for Thrawn
>and Plagueis
>and the Mandalorian wars
>and Palpatine cloning himself
>and Han and Leia's son turning evil
>and Imperial Remnants
>and btw we're now mainly focusing on reprinting EU novels
You lost.

>>739451042
>why the order doesn't exist in 6,
It didn't exist in ANH either, what are trying to say?

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>>739450075
DO IT

>>739454451
DAMN! He ain't going to be in rush hour 3!!

so how was the new movie

>>739457813
>While Jedi are better at covert ops and the like where they enter an area, do what they need to do within a few hours or so, then leave and go on their way.
No, the Jedi kinda suck at hiding their presence at all. Vader senses Obi-wan on the Death Star in the original movie, and then he senses Luke in the shuttle to Endor in Return of the Jedi. The Jedi don't reallu get taught to hide from other Force users. And why would they? In the prequel trilogy era, they operate under the impression that there are basically zero trained dark side Force users left in the galaxy.

>>739461228
So bland and uninspired that Mike Stoklasa apologised to the prequels

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>>739461287
Total Prequels victory.

>>739450793
Luke was blocking a training bot shooting one weak ass bolt at him at a time. The jedi had 1k soldiers shooting them from all angles.

>>739451259
>generic stormtroopers
Of which aren't supposed to be pushovers either.

>>739455970
Shots exist for more than giving information.

>>739460787
Not him but Disneyshit isn't canon either, even worse than the EU

>>739461287
>ended up so mid you can't make fun of it for being bad but it's also not good either
A fate worse than death

>>739461228
I know someone who went to the movie house on opening day and he was the only one there.

>>739451042
Most jedi were just supporting characters. No plot armour for them at all.

>>739458191
Everyone already knew that though?

why couldnt the jedi have sex

>>739463103
emotions bad or something idk

>>739450547
jango fett>obi wan kenobi
obi wan kenobi>99% of the jedi order
clones = jango fett

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>>739463103
If you have sex, you might want to keep having sex. If you want to keep having sex, you might fear not having sex. And then you choke your wife because you think she might be having sex with Obi-Wan Kenobi.

>>739455446
I thought he was a kiwi?

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>>739452732
>force LIGHTning
>it's a dark side skill

everything wouldve been fine if Qui-qon also saved Anaki's mom

>>739463395
He literally tried to and Watto didn't want to lose both his slaves.

>>739450547
Watch and learn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus

>>739463103
because you might get feelings for someone
then that someone might be killed by a duros
then you might start a duros xenocide because you've fallen into the dark side

>>739463446
The fuck did she even do as a slave we just see her be a stay at home mom.

>>739463103
Honestly they probably could "just" have sex but it's the relationship that would be the problem as then you start to prioritize them over other things

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>>739450075
Clone troopers were competent. I liked the Umbara Arc in the Clone Wars show for portraying this a bit.

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The Coolest Virgin.

>>739450547
Dozens of them died to battle droids in EP2, the same ones that Anakin and ObiWan would dispatch with no effort. Now pit them against clones of a Mandalorian trained to be killing machines who also got the preemptive attack.

>>739450075
The Emperor and the Empire did nothing wrong and I'm tired of pretending they are the villains.

>>739463103
It's extremely hard to detach emotions from sex. If you permit sex between Jedi then you might as well permit relationships too.

>>739463912
doesn't he fuck THEY ARE REAL TO ME girl?

>>739463756
Sucks watto dick all night

>>739464180
No. Starkiller died before he could fuck Juno. All he got was a kiss. We never see Clonekiller in the Sequel have sex with Juno either.

>>739450547
The jedi aren't meant to generals or soldiers, which is made pretty apparent in 2 where their surprise attack is immediately fucked over and they would've all been killed if not for the clones.

>>739464638
Imagine getting cucked after death by a clone

>>739464638
>>739464742
>believing big cloning
No way that's a clone. That's just Galen with dementia.

>>739464826
Anon, there were tons of a clone. There's even a video showing the Dark Apprentice and Vader with Starkiller's strung up corse.

>>739450075
what's his name again?

>>739464995
That's Creamy Sheev, Emperor of Space.

>>739464995
Donovan Itsen

>>739455970
It was probably put there to silence the fags who would ask questions like "Why didn't Windu just force grab his lightsaber off the floor and on to his left hand?"

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>>739450075
Taking away the individuality of millions of men and making them shoot their friends in the back is pretty fuckin' dark side.

>>739465375
They never had individuality though

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>>739464984
Goddamn, this is macabre. Even for Vader.

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>>739465428
You've been wrong for over two decades.

>>739465568
>erm uh but erm actually this non-cannon shit tier cgi series erm
No

>>739463103
Monasticism

>>739463103
They're literally just space monks, anon.

Clone Troopers are fucking tragic man, from both sides of the coin. Order 66 was my first exposure to a mass culling/genocide in media and it made me feel sick to my stomach.

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>>739465605
>Clones having individual personalities doesn't aid the themes and tragedy of the story because... it just DOESN'T!

>>739450547
>We need to set up Episode 4 SOMEHOW

>>739465783
Your preference for something doesn't mean it's canon. Clones are brainless tards hyper focused on killing and merely biological robots pitted against the mechanical kind further proving the hypocrisy of the jedi. This is the canon of star wars not your feefees or the EU.

>>739464995
The Senate

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>>739465605
You're a retard, Order 66 *always* came across like some Manchurian Candidate shit. Upon hearing it all clones go "Yes, my lord" and act like drones. The fuck do you mean "my lord"? Who normally calls the nice grandpa Chancellor that is totally not Sith Lord Sidious "my lord"? Especially when he suddenly looks like fried bacon and is dressed in a creepy black hood? Nobody brings it up? They all respond the exact same, like a computer? The whole "clones didn't know and were simply following one of many orders" was initally fanfic created by Karen Traviss that some of the autists in the fanbase accepted then got mad when George and the other 75% of normies that didn't follow the EU went with the thread from his movies which implied the moment they hear the order, something unnatural shifts in the clones. Hell he added the Cody scene to show the immedaite before and after, where Cody goes from bantering with Obi giving him his lightsaber back to nonchalantly shooting him off a cliff with a tank.

>>739466025
Wow that sure is a lot of autistic rambling that I won't read so I'll just accept your concession and we can move on with you having learned your lesson

>>739463103
They could, the idea Jedi are celibate is retarded and wrong. They just can't form attachments. Quinlan Vos, Kit Fisto, Aayla Secura, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan etc. all had flings at some point in time. Hell Ki-Adi-Mundi had multiple wives because his race was going extinct and it was hit duty to nut inside them.

As long as you don't cuddle afterwards it's OK.

>>739466203
>BTFO so fucking hard he unironically confesses he's afraid to read it because he knows he'll have no argument
Goddamn, been a while since I've seen such a spineless anon. Good job.

>>739466287
Damn you're illiterate and stupid. This is really the target audience of the EU huh? No wonder George and Disney both hate you.
Lat (you) mr baiter

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>>739466204
Why didn't they just make him donate sperm?

>>739461228
>Movie so bad cambodians haven't cam ripped it and Chinese haven't leaked converted imax to mkv yet

>>739463297
The sharp cut to Obi-Wan hitting this fuckass pose while Anakin is literally seconds away from killing his wife is so funny man.

>>739466370
>This is really the target audience of the EU
But it's the EU the one that, via Traviss' shitty novels, trying to sell the idea the clones *weren't* mind controlled and thus George's TCW retconned stuff? Even though it aligned itself better with Episode III's depiction?

>>739465849
All this bitching about canon as if the personality thing hasn't been established lore for longer than your zoomer ass has been sentient.

>>739466204
and its been proven time and again that there's nothing inherently wrong with positive attachments (the death of the empire came entirely about thanks to the familial attachment of vader and luke for instance) with luke ditching it entirely in the old EU, so I tend to attribute it as part of the order's archconservatism in dogma that did them in

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>>739466203
Wow.

>>739463103
Explaining to midwits the purpose of celibacy in the clergy to detach them as a political class from building lineage power bases and getting into the history of the borgias, papal schisms, and reformations that happened as consequence to this tenet being ignored is like explaining to midwits in the 90's that the human brain is a processor and processing power is... Easier to just say battery or just assert it in Star wars case with a broad nod to eastern mysticism.


Force sensitives fucking makes more force sensitive force sensitives and with more force sensitive force sensitives you get wild shit happening as Disney accidentally concretely canonized while plundering the EU. Luke being a jedi like his father beforehand established the idea, 3 more generations of up powered Jedi bloodline havers cements it and why Star wars society has this monastic order that plucks up every force sensitive child instead of a bunch of sith empires everywhere like in the pre TOR.

>>739461287
Oh I don't like seeing graying Rich Evans.

>>739466395
It's against their culture to not do it naturally or so Mundi claims

>>739450793
The force is not Gojo's infinity in jujutsu kaisen, its defenses have to be very consciously activated and even then it can't block omnidirectional fire

>>739461272
nta and not really disagreeing with you, just worth mentioning
>Vader senses Obi-wan on the Death Star in the original movie
Vader is exceptionally strong in the force and considering their former relationship it's also extremely likely he's just very attuned to sensing Obi-Wan in-particular.
>Luke in the shuttle to Endor in Return of the Jedi
Luke was basically openly broadcasting his feeling to Vader because at that point he was all but dead set on meeting him in person to save him.

>>739467069
the muh clergy defense has always been silly, there are an extremely tiny amount of force users (there's what, 10k proper jedi by the prequel era? in a galaxy of trillions) and the whole point of this thread expounds on how the vast majority will job if you throw enough people with guns at them. they're not taking over the galaxy unless they have a broad enough powerbase among the populace that they could've even without force powers. not to mention as you noted the fact that even supposed enforced celibacy you'll still get force sensitives popping up naturally.
plus force sensitivity is not guaranteed if we bring in the EU with Theron Shan from TOR
I don't think you can take the lineage results from sheev's ubermensch force baby and apply it to the rest of the galaxy

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>>739454451
>posting the old canon
THIS is actually how it went down

>>739467650
>After 10,000+ years of the current Republic there aren't force sensitive empires... so monastic celibacy and screening of infants in Republic controlled space is just silly

And I say the "just don't have le attachments" argument is fucking retarded and still a part of the same logical reasoning of not having force sensitive family lines and "attachment" to your progeny and their position in your paramilitary religious wing of galactic governance.

>>739451880
>the old republic era saw jedi and sith who could both slap the shit out of the likes of sidious or yoda without breaking a sweat
lol lmao even
pure legendswanking, plain and simple

>>739466667
>shitting on GODviss
You're opinions are wrong and you haven't read anything you're complaining about.

>>739453168
Grevious wouldn't holocaust the jews unless they were magic space samurai, his whole deal was that he wanted to prove his mettle as a warrior/general, and saw the Jedi as the worthiest foes to go against.

>>739451727
Jedi are strong, it's just that prequel Jedi are the least martial-focused Jedi in the entire history of their order, due to an unprecedented 1000 years of peace for the Republic. Most of them never trained hard in advanced lightsaber techniques because it was thought they would never be needed, that's why so many of them died at Geonosis.
TLDR: The prequel Jedi are from a sheltered white community and relaxed around ghetto blacks

>>739466025
You keep spamming this (wrong) post in every Star Wars thread. Please kill yourself so I can stop being exposed to it.

>>739463103
they likely can, they only really banned romantic relationships for the obvious
>Attachment BAD
rhetoric. but passionless sex with someone you aren't in love with? why not

>>739468241
you're really overthinking it instead of someone taking the
>watch your emotions because embracing negative ones sends you down the path to the dark side
fact and taking the logic too far.
>and their position in your paramilitary religious wing of galactic governance.
the jedi whether in the old or new canon existed as a religious order long before their role within the galactic republic, a role which we know they didn't always actually take depending on the time period. I don't think some dude on typhon was worrying about whether his horny padawan would create a galactic spanning empire through any potential kids

>>739465513
I guess when someone grills you like a hamburger you hold a grudge

>>739468797
>Jedi are strong, it's just that prequel Jedi are the least martial-focused Jedi in the entire history of their order, due to an unprecedented 1000 years of peace for the Republic
which is extremely funny when taking into the consideration the more over the top fight choreography of the prequels. story wise they're not supposed to be very good warriors, but you watch any fight scene and they're pulling off crazy shit constantly. makes it harder to buy the jedi mostly getting blasted by clones because you've watched the jedi deflect one bazillion blaster shots, run as super speed and backflip over shit for no reason for 3 whole movies.

>>739468085
I miss getting vydia of basically everything.
Rising costs of games killed so many things.

>>739469023
Who forced devs to do realism slop with 400 billion marketing and executive budgets and why couldn't a dev make a game with 4 million bucks like a ps2/gamecube game?

>>739468995
Qui-gon (and by extension obi-wan) was a special snowflake, and Mace was fucking micro dosing dark side for his entire career. Really the only one who really stands out as being out of place is Yoda being a living blender

>>739469146
>Who forced devs to do realism slop with 400 billion marketing and executive budgets
the suits in charge of the company that actually run the show

>>739468582
>saw the Jedi as the worthiest foes to go against
his hatred of them predominately stemmed from having a personal vendetta towards them for siding against his people on his world, and his fighting style has always been terrorize, ambush, or overwhelm. He's not very honor coded at all.
Most damning of all if you consider it canon is his genocide of the of the conniving and manipulative Nightsister witches, the most based thing the TCW show ever had him do. Fuck cauldron smoke and mirror magic users.

>>739469328
So it's not the "rising cost" since that's a symptom of the issue.

>>739468995
>ep 1
qui gon and obi are two who could genuinely fight, exceptions to the rule
>ep 2
we see mace take a bunch of jedi to geonosis and I doubt he took people he believed were weak, they lost almost everyone. to battle droids no less
>ep 3
any jedi who could survive to the end of the war and actually be involved in the fight would be the creme de la creme.
mace had 1/3 of the entire jedi high council with him against sidious. not a single one survived half a minute of autistic sith screeching apart from him. and again the high council are supposed to be some of the best

>>739469457
>He's not very honor coded at all.
it's not a quest for honor, but a quest to prove he's better than them. there is no honor in war, you use what you can to win. he keeps the lightsabers as trophies for a reason, he's hunting them like they are animals.

>>739468881
>Existed before
Space empires, constant sith wars, becoming new new sith empires, etc. in old eu and new
>Long before
Obiwans exact words were the Jedi knights acting as guardians of peace and justice for a thousand generations

>You're overthinking it, it's too hard to think about otherwise
Why it's the matrix batteries question of the IP. Prequel trilogy should have used the viewer bandwidth on fully flushing out this Jedi version of the rule of 2 and how it plays into the chosen one prophesy and threat/problem of taking a wife in the order and why it's not solved by "just quit lol". Instead we got mediclorians mentioned in 1 of 3 movies and the cut the world building exposition budget entirely.

The story operates like this is there because it is. George added it as an element of the Republic era Jedi and it's the driving force of 2 movies that emotional attachment subverts the will of the force or whatever. It does that because it leads to shit like not killing your bisected Padawan like Yoda said or overthrowing the galactic Republic so your wife survived childbirth.

>>739469519
depends, I can't say for sure of course I don't work in the industry but I imagine middleware prices and licensing fees for engines and such are probably more expensive too.

>>739469705
Everyone uses inhouse engines or untiy/unreal which you can go look at their costs right (it's not much at all)
It's jews anon. The filthy kike rats that suck wealth out of everything to fatten themselves at the expense of everyone else.

>>739469023
if heads of the places making the decisions weren't giga retards that see things as all or nothing investment gambles, they'd set aside smaller budgets and support some AA projects with their IP's. But now every dev team has to be 200 people minimum with 50 middle management supervisors and three separate California consultation firms okaying every gameplay design and writing decision against data sheets.

>Brought back Hayden for that Ahsoka show
>Dude STILL remembered all the choreography and how to fight
Shame he was a fighting a crippled fat sack of shit who couldn't even do the bar minimum to make it look cool.

>>739469580
I dunno I'm willing to write off the difference in martial skill as plot contrivances, why waste time with a long fight scene between the high council and Sheev when the ass end of the movie needs to be like, 30 minutes of Anakin v Obiwan. It's the same thing as like, a named helmetless Space Marine vs a regular Marine, one is blessed by being the focal point of the story and the other are just cannon fodder. Luke wasn't a very well trained warrior, but he could hang against Vader who even after the robot nerfs he got, was still one of the mightier warriors in the galaxy.

The problem the prequels have is that if we are supposed to believe the Jedi aren't very good at fighting, the fight scenes should've been less over the top in general, as separating spectacle from plot can be hard sometimes. just look at all the complaints about how no one ever used force speed again after episode 1

>>739470056
from what I read, he never actually stopped practicing and does sword fighting for exercise.

>>739468995
You can only block so many angles at once even with perfect foresight.

>>739470097
Dude basically invented half of the commonly-accepted lightsabre moves just by fucking around during AOTC and ROTS.

>>739470097
hayden was THE perfect casting choice for anakin skywalker, and i will listen to no one who says otherwise. he didnt get his acclaims during the prequels only because the writing was dogshit and he was given nothing to work with, a-la I DON'T LIKE SAND, and the director refused to allo whim to change lines or improvise
he is a literal master of all the saber fighting stuff and to this day no one comes even close except for obi-wan's actor, and the both of them are still bros to this day

>>739450547
Force sensitives by and large are not shit and only the top percent of them like Yoda, Luke, Valkorion, etc are actually these huge threats that require extreme caution and tactical planning to beat.

>>739470715
I think everyone outside of the most braindead twitter serf, has pretty much accepted that the faults of the prequels are entirely on George.

>>739470827
>Braindead twitter serf
the problem is that there are a LOT of braindead twitter serfs and they come here and spout their idiocy regularly

>baby zoomers that grew up with prequels love anakin/hayden
cute.

>>739451252
This, and the clones didn't give any negative vibes due to their growth and conditioning.

>>739450547
They became too complacent and a lot of them needed carrying from the clones. It's easy to fight 40+ Droids when you've got 40+ clones behind you giving you cover fire and taking shots aimed for you.
You're less likely to survive when the guys who were your back up, suddenly turn on you when you're not expecting it and you're now out numbered and out-gunned. Then there's the tanks, flyers, etc etc.

>>739451086
If Disney had a brain they would have adapted the EU novels starting with "Truce At Bakura".

>>739451983
WHAT IS THY BIDDING, MY MASTER
IT'S A DISASTER, SKYWALKER WE'RE AFTER

>>739471074
they have a brain anon
the problem is that disney's brain is concerned with causing societal upheaval, the destruction of the white race, and the subjugation of western european (including america) countries. because its ran by jews
the goal is not profit
the goal is to destroy your cultural institutions, stories, and heritage; to demoralize you and condition you to accept an unending tide of browns that will out-breed and render you a minority and eventually extinct; browns which are easier for jews to control and squeeze profit and labor out of

>>739471123
but could he be turned to the darkside?

>>739471123
WOULD IT BE IF HE TURNED TO THE DARKSIDE?
YES. A DARK JEDI; ANOTHER POWERFUL ALLY

>>739471123
>>739471183
>>739471194
https://swfchan.com/2/9435/?StarWars+Gangsta+Rap.swf

>>739450075
>most jedi got shot in the back with blasters
based

>>739471074
Everyone seems to think they should have done the Thrawn novels, but after seeing the doughy guy they got to play Thrawn I'm glad they didn't.
the Jedi Academy trilogy would have been better anyway even if it's got retarded shit like the Sun Crusher

>>739452770
Why is a Parasaurolophus a Jedi?

>>739471194
>>739471248
HE WILL JOIN US OR DIE
WE GOT DEATHSTAR DEATHSTAR

WE GOT DEATHSTAR DEATHSTAR

WE GOT DEATHSTAR DEATHSTAR

>>739471298
What about the Yuuzan Vong?

>>739471171
Go back to stormfront.

>>739450075
Historically, I believe more Sith have died to other Sith than than Jedis, so it's not necessarily wrong to say dark side is more powerful - ON AVERAGE.

It's honestly kind of sad how absolutely horribly Jedi are depicted
Most of them were glorified swordsmen, who can levitate objects WOOOOW
meanwhile, the average sith is depicted as brutal, lightning casting, force choking overpowering and excessively cunning (they had to be, to beat their own masters)

Meanwhile, entire Jedi order is a quantity over quality monk temple, where half of the Jedi don't even practice what they preach, especially in animations and side-stories.
Like it's absurd how many of them are written to act like average teenagers,sassy jesters or shortfused retards, you know, instead of serious spiritualists with godly patience and values that they were meant to be.

Realistically, like 80% of the Jedi we've seen in movies and offshoots were unqualified to be Jedi, where as the dark side welcomes anyone
..though they aren't likely to survive long.

>>739471248
>they did a remake
Fuck, I never knew about this, I'd only ever seen the original.
https://swfchan.com/4/16062/?starwarsrapgangsta.swf

>>739471528
Now that I think about it, in hindsight of the sequels, the Sun Crusher isn't even that stupid and would have unironically worked better. If they really wanted to subvert expectations then having a ship about the size of a starfighter that can blow up an entire system is far better than "it's another, bigger death star".
Hell, they even get to fly it through a Star Destroyer at one point, and Admiral Daala would have been a far better girlboss leader than Laura Dern's character was.
yes I know she's a retard and a failure, but so was admiral purplehair

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>>739450793
Yeah, one bolt.
>>739450547
Lots of fire, surprise. A bunch of Jedi getting betrayed all at once gave them a headache from all of that bad juju.

Jedi are slightly oversold. We see 186 of the 212 Jedi in one battle on Geonosis getting killed by cheap robots, and bugmen who get wrecked by clone troopers.

Shockingly bringing a sword to a gunfight is actually not a great idea.

>>739451042
It's not complicated to tell everyone "Shoot dat motha fucka" they can't stand in the same place. It's not that unlikely for two shots to come from two different directions. We don't see the typical Jedi able to dodge bullets like they're Neo.

>>739465428
Lots of them that we see on screen in the prequals clearly did.

>>739466203
Why do you think they stop calling him Chancellor, and start calling him Lord immediately after recieving Order 66 in the movie? Did they get a handout before hand saying "Hey while killing the Jedi I also want my new title to be Lord."

>>739451983
This is canon btw.

>>739450617
I wish that was true but then Ahsoka solo'd a whole armada in the CW finale

>>739468801
Did you break, bot?

Too much Filoni Baloney ITT

>>739461228
There was a new movie? Not even meming, I've heard nothing about any new Star Wars media since that shitty ubisoft game from a year or 2 ago.

>>739450547
One nuclear bomb vs hundred septillion coughing babies

>>739472846
It's a Mandalorian movie that apparently feels like a bunch of episodes squished together.

>>739471074
Disney adhering to any of the old EU means they have to pay royalties. This is a reason why beyond the old cast you never see any old locations, old alien designs in the sequel movies.

>>739472940
Is that why they copied the OT movies almost note for note?

>>739473005
They did that for nostalgia. Disney does have a brain, its just hassidic with the intended goal of maximizing profit.

>>739470097
>>739470618
Thats actually really cool. It feels bad that everyone shit on him for Lucas’s writing and it killed his career. Fuck assholes like RLM and anyone who jerks off those disney owned shill faggots.

>>739471957
Is Daala like fucking evil? I was under the impression she was Grandma Tarkin’s personal fuckholes and she exiles Luke Skywalker from the galaxy.

>>739474292
She's basically Tarkin's side piece, and he gave her command over the Maw research installation as basically a placeholder position to keep her out of the way. At the start of the trilogy she's got four Imperial-class Star Destroyers under her command and loses all but one of them through hilarious shenanigans and her own incompetence.
>one has Kyp Durron drive the Sun Crusher directly through the bridge and out the other side, sending it careening into a black hole
>one gets suicide rammed by Admiral Ackbar remote-controlling a Mon Cal cruiser chassis
>I can't remember what happens to the third one but I'm sure it's just as stupid
In I, Jedi, she teams up with Pellaeon, kills a bunch of lesser Imperial warlords and steals their fleets, and gets a fucking Super Star Destroyer and tries to blow up Luke's temple on Yavin only to have it force-yeeted the fuck out of the system by his students.
I think she comes back in the NJO series to save everyone's ass from the Vong and ends up becoming the chancellor of the New Republic for a short period, but I haven't read those books.
She isn't really "evil" per se, she's just kind of incompetent with a really inflated ego.

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>>739474292
Daala's a fucking retard. This is a woman who sat her ass in the Maw Installation for a decade straight because Tarkin said he'd come get her eventually, missed the entire war and the collapse of the Empire, and then when she finally nosed her way out of her tard-jail she saw that the New Republic had risen and tried to attack Coruscant with like four Star Destroyers.
Some five years previously, Thrawn had dismissed making an attack on that planet with far more forces at his disposal without SIGNIFICANT preparations and a quick getaway plan.

>>739474991
Funnily enough, the Maw is completely isolated from the rest of the galaxy due to it being surrounded by black holes, so when Han and Kyp show up she hasn't even heard of Tarkin's death despite it happening nearly a decade ago and Han's like "death star? bitch we already blew up two of those lel"

>>739474991
The Sun Crusher bit is even funnier when you consider the thing was literally built by the people at her own installation, and her plan to stop it is "just corral it with star destroyers lol, it's not like it's got indestructible armor"
it does, in fact, have indestructible armor

>>739475226
God I fucking hate that thing. Indestructible armour, sun-destroying weapons, and it doesn't even look cool doing it!

>>739475226
40keks

>>739475074
To be fair the Maw installation was mega super-duper top secret and Tarkin told her not to do anything to reveal its existence. She only broke cover because Han and some others ran into the Maw while escaping some baddies and she captured them.

>>739475226
And it still gets crumpled like a bitch by a black hole along with the prototype Death Star.

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Star Wars is such cringe-worthy boomer unc slop. Please let it go away.

>>739475909
I long ago learned that people who use these words like they're breathing air have nothing valuable or important to say.

>>739475909
Unc board little bro.

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>>739475943
And yet his words are more relevant and important than anything a manbabby has to say.

>>739476351
Hilariously ironic coming from someone else on an image board about children's toys. What mature adult fantasy things do you enjoy?

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>>739467650
>there's what, 10k proper jedi by the prequel era? in a galaxy of trillions
There are way, way more force users than jedis, the jedi Order just doesn't have the budget to scan everyone.
The entire fucking movies' plotline was sparked from their recruitment team missing their literal fucking Messiah because he was born in a shithole instead of two blocks down the Temple's entrance.
Jedi are neither the entirety of the potential force user pool, nor even the best of it.

Cross-over between SciFi IP, but now I'm curious what dropping a pair of Bene Gesserit witches in the setting would do.
If Anakin is a spontaneous fluke but otherwise perfectly hereditary, they would have an absolute field day hunting others like this for their usual eugenics program shenanigans.
Bene Gesserit-born force users would move entire stars after barely 10 generations.

>>739476351
don't you have a shitty Boys meme to be forcing elsewhere? go on, get involved with your generations """media""" lmao

>>739450075
someone explain his plot in attack of the clones in a coherent fashion, it makes no sense

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>>739476627
He wants to force a schism in the Republic to justify having some sucker in the Senate introduce a motion to give him 'temporary' dictator powers. To this end he engineers Dooku and the CIS to begin a military buildup while also arranging for Padme Amidala, a Senator who would never support granting him emergency dictator powers, to be either assassinated or driven away from the Senate so said idiot could introduce the legislation upon suggestion it's what Padme would want in defense of the stability of the Republic.

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>>739476351
>his words are more relevant and important than anything a manbabby has to say

..a low-IQ, low-T, manbabby, beta incel has to say.

Based cat.

Also, Star Wars a shit

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>>739476767
you have to go back

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>>739476813
That's what happens in Episode II tho

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>>739451028
It's all so tiresome

>>739476443
Honestly though there should have been at least 10 million Jedi bare minimum. The math just doesnt add up for there to be 10,000 in a galaxy with quadrillions of life forms. Like Coruscant already has trillions on it.

Who the fuck is sifo dyas

>>739451983
Why was LucasArts terrible for years and years BEFORE Lucas sold it

>>739476969
It was literally a typo that George liked. Same reason Korriban got arbitrarily changed to Morriband (I think it was also a fuck you to the EU)

>>739476969
Originally it was supposed to be a pseudonym for Palpatine/Sidious, implying he was the one who secretly ordered the clone army, but it later got retconned to being another random Jedi who Sidious (or maybe Plagueis, I don't recall) convinced to order the clone army instead for some reason and then he just died immediately after.

>>739477153
Sifo-Dyas was friends with Dooku and was gifted in seeing the future. He knew that shit was going to get real bad in the future, and Plagueis tells him it might be a good idea to speak to the Kaminoans about creating an army for the Republic. He does so and then Dooku murders him for Sidious.

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>>739450547
>je-DIE order

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>>739472375
>I wish that was true but then Ahsoka solo'd a whole armada in the CW finale
That's because Anakin made her train with the clones. Most Jedi never did.

>>739474134
ah yes famous disneywars advocates RLM

>>739450547
there are no more jedis in ep4 and george needed to wrap it up quickly

>>739450547
It was literally destined. The Jedi at the time are totally blind with their faith in the force which was seeking to “balance” them out of the equation. Part of this is canon, part of this is because it’s prequels and it was necessary to lead up to original trilogy. Even then the vast majority of Jedi were not where near as competent or skilled as yoda or obi and the ones that were close lasted longer.

>>739476443
I don't fully disagree with your point but while there's never any explicit statement at least half the galaxy was republic space by prequel time and tattooine is in the ass end of the outer rim near such shithole planets as geonosis. itd be like failing to find a genius in some tribe in papua new guinea like yeah it's a remote undeveloped shithole

>>739477247
So much for seeing the future

>>739450547
most jedi are bureaucrats and middling at best. almost none of them are yoda or mace windu levels of competent.

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>>739478459
>tfw u see the bad future but then cause the bad future by trying to stop it
Many such cases

>>739478587
what is even the point of seeing the future if you cant change it? just seems like the force is playing a cruel prank

>>739476767
I always thought it was both hilarious and sad that Jar Jar ends up being the linchpin of Palpatine's plan to become emperor. I like to imagine that George thought of this role first, and then asked himself what kind of complete bozo could kind up in there, so he comes up with this dumbass comedic relief character for Phantom Menace that no one suspects will be instrumental to the bad guys winning. I think there's no real way it happened in that order, but it would make sense.

>>739477247
>hey man I can see the future, some emperor takes control of the republic with a huge army of clones after he uses them to fight off a bunch of droids
>damn that sounds really bad, you should order an army of clones for us so that doesn't happen
Was Sifo-Dyas fucking retarded?

>>739478640
>Jar-Jar is the key to all this

>>739478626
Normally they do. That's what they do when blocking blaster shots and stuff. But when a skilled dark side user gets involved, it clouds their usual ability to see things clearly, and they get tricked into doing stupid stuff.

As evidenced by this thread though, a lot of people miss that. IMO, Sidious should have had a monologue in RotS where he just openly explains that he was responsible for the Naboo invasion, the Separatists, the clone army, and hid his presence from the Jedi the whole time doing all this under their noses because so many people watch the movies and miss that even though it isn't very subtle is and spelled out in the opening text crawls that hardly anyone reads.

>>739478890
those are just mathematical probabilities though. seeing a prophecy of something coming to pass decades in the future is completely different

>>739452732
because blasting fucking lightning bolts from your goddamn fingers is fucking badass and everything awesome = dark side

>>739478795
The Jedi are in fact pretty retarded

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>>739478968
Arrogant fuckers too. No wonder the Sith were able to get the drop on them.

Do jedi only exist to counter the sith from doing real evil shit? seems like just getting rid of the force altogether would be doing the galaxy a huge favour

>>739479025
>t. Kreia

>>739477490
>he doesn’t know who owns maker studios, who owns RLM, Pissed Pablo and countless “influencers”

>>739479161
>source: I saw it in a dream

>>739479025
getting rid of the force = wiping out all life

>>739479183
Says who? The Jedi? They WOULD say that

>>739479023
Being a Jedi doesn't magically make retarded old hags any less retarded.

>>739476627
>sidious is THE sith at the time, sith want to conquer and force the stronges to survive and the weakest to die
>sith believe conflict is the catalyst to do this
>sith hate Jedi because they are force users with radically opposing views
>prior to the CIS mobilizing, the republic was in a time of peace and stability, that had to go
>jedi were at an all time high, that had to go
>how do we do this?
>create the conflict yourself of course!
>create the CIS to destroy the republic and the Jedi which is done by an army of droids loyal to you
>also be the one to create the army of clones that would fight for the republic
>both are good, but only one can be better, he controls both sides so he wins regardless
>clones prove to be too good at what they do so he decides to trick the senate into making him emperor and take over

It’s only seems complicated if you don’t know anything about the sith and what their worldview is. It’s pretty straightforward.

>>739479242
You don't get to be in a senior position of any organization without embodying the basic principles of that organization first.

>>739452470
>Be loved by everyone in your clan
>Bunch of buggers come and try to take over
>You kill em cause you're basically a top 100 fighter in the entire verse
>Buggers realize they're jobbing hard so they go to republic to get help
>Republic starts aiding them
>You go to Republic to tell them what's happening
>Ship blows up
>Dooku saves you, tells you it was the Jedi that did it (it was him lmao)
>Builds you a body in return for your service
>Turns out being a god-tier warrior also leads to being a good tactician
>Prove yourself in a difficult situation
>Essentially become Dooku's number one guy
>Become a powerhouse and gain a Jedi killstreak
>Mace MF Windu breaks your lungs
>That's about 50% of your entire remaining organic body
>Job almost every battle afterwards
>Have to resort to Israeli-level tactics just to start winning grand battles