>Bungie spent $250 million developing Marathon, making it the most expensive project Bungie as ever made>only for it to have 5,000 to 10,000 players a day on steam with no signs of growthMarathon bros... we're next on the chopping block
>>739455902Jesus christ that picture is horrifying
>>739455902$50 million were spent researching how to bring Saint Floyd back, unfortunately they had to settle with honoring his name by adding the Floyd-droid shell.
>>739455902>niggbotsfor what purpose?
>>739456156Hey now, they also replicated his Black hair!
>>739455902Look at that horrifyingly ugly thing you've posted. That's a player character, isn't it? This shit is completely off-putting, who the fuck would want to play this? Who looks at that and thinks "this is a cool game I want to play" or something like that?Why the fuck do they do this?
>>739455902I can't get into Marathon because it's art style is trash, OP's image would make me turn off the game.
>>739455902I am attracted to black male faces and want to kiss themImagine I put a frog image here
>>739458174faggot
>>739459292yeah
>>739455902You really have to wonder how NOBODY on any mangement level looked at this and thought, or even wasn't told, "Hey, this isn't fun and is gonna die day 1. We either need actual content or need to scrap it."
>>739460453Marathon died because of people like YOU!!
>>739458174theirs something fucked up with you because most gay blacks don't even find blacks attractive
>>739455902I refuse to play an extraction shooter, simple as.
why did they think spending gorillions in a super niche genre most people don't like would be a good idea
*2,000 to 10,000 players
>>739455902>SHIIEEEEET
I have GaaS fatigue.
MARACKTROON
>>739465474ayo hol up
>>739463616so does literally everyone else
best first person shooter since titanfall and niggas is missing out because it dont got a white guy in multicam on the cover
>>739469110the genre sucks dawg, it's not fun for most peoplemake a pve game with a story next time. maybe bungie could've used this game called marathon back in the 90s as a reference.
>>739465474I'll suck yo diiiick!
>>739455902>>739457489WE
>>739456282To prevent relaxing
>>739456282We wuz androids n shiet
>>739462084>super niche genre most people don't likeEver heard of Fortnite?
>>739469654This is where I’m at. Like, so my goal is to grind out loot. But if I die I lose everything? Ok that’s fine, I just have to extract…wait but even the loot I bring in, that I looted last week, I lose if I die? Uhh… and even if I’m perfect and never die it all gets wiped in 3 months anyways along with all my skill tree progress?Yeah I’m fucking good.
>>739457593Same. The artstyle is intentionally revolting and disgusting. It's like they dont want me to play the game at all. I'm glad sony is suffering for their hubris.
>can take up to 15 runners to kill 1 (one) Compiler in a long drawn-out boss right>meanwhile this guy literally punches them to death solo
>>739455902>beep*cough* nyeh-at least…>beepwe owned…>beepthe chuds…>BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPGURUGH-ACK-BLEGH>BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
>>739465474>BIX
>>739465474>>739474173BEEP NOOD
>>739456065It's insane how the white paint(?) was textured in a way that makes his nose and lips look even bigger than they already are.What were they thinking?
>>739470995WUZ
All the Concordlikes just blend together in my head. I wouldn't be able to differentiate between any of them because they all look the same. Undoubtedly they all also play the same. It's an amazing scam Californian studios pulled by just having one game they all copypaste while raking in billions in salaries.
s-stable core engagers
>>739455902>Only to have 5000 players per dayAre steamchart thread retards really this stupidThat’s the concurrent users, not the number of people playing per day. There’s 100,000 people playing Marathon every day.
Maratroons failure worries me because I really wanted CoD DMZ 2.0 to be a thing but now they might see the genre as a whole not worth it. Man fuck Bungie.
>>739456065>>739456439>nigger tranny from outer space.jpg
>>739465474MUH LAZER
>>739480612>There’s 100,000 people playing Marathon every day.
>>739480696DMZ 1 was very rough anyway. It’s still going to be there in Modern Warfare 4, like Infinity is watching what Bungie are doing.
>>739480612You have a sauce for that nigga, or are you just another "blast haver"?
>>739455902Why does that droid look like it has problems breathing?
>>739481182Those are low numbers relative to other games, but yes. Fortnite has 1 million active players at any minute in the day, but 30 million unique players per day, has 700k, etc.
>>739481225can you not do simple math?
>>739481317No, I can't. Do it for me. Show your work.
>>739455902H A V I N GAB L A S T
>>7394559024 billion dollars actuallyAnd over 750k per year in operating costs
>>739455902>extraction shooters are a fading fad and oversaturated genre>people already growing exponentially tired of fomo crap>Bungo's lazy handling of Destiny as a live service left a sour taste in people's mouths>no sexy aliensAnd so they doubled down on making a FOMO-laced extraction shooter live service game. You are meant to make singleplayer content for people that aren't mentally retarded children with 30 hours of time to spend on one sweaty-ass game that essentially requires you to also manage at least a team of people you know.Shame, because I think the neon coloured modern industry-punk look is really cool.
>>739481387It’s the average daily play time per user multiplied by hours in the day, times the number of concurrent users. So I was wrong before, Marathon has 275,000 players per day as a low ball, if we only take 7,500 from Steam and a low average of 1.5 hours played per day.It’s. It great numbers, but it’s obviously not “5000 people playing right now”. This is why the overwatch devs were laughing at steam chart posts on X.
>>739481715*Its not great numbers
>>739465474>VITCH DOKTOR SUPPORT MY WAYNE
>>739481715The problem with this is you can't possibly account for ppl logging off to go take a shit, go to work their shift, make dinner, whatever, then log back on.And it still doesn't change the fact that the money that the game has made for them has been a large loss, not gain.
>>739473164And best part is that after all the trouble, some bushwacker will shoot you in the back after you try to "extract" with its loot.
>>739482062>steam stats can’t account for multiple sessions per dayNo, and that’s part of the issue. Marathon could be anywhere between 10,000 and 300,000. But the player stats and financials around the game devalues the conversations here as a whole into console war shit. So instead of people playing Marathon and other extraction games and learning the genre and whether it’s worth perusing for the medium, we’re stuck with people who have a social vendetta against Bungie.
>>739482062The executive sees 300,000The realist sees 10,000Chuddha sees nothing
>>739471138Tard
>>739481182I guess if each of the 100,000 people play in batches of 5000 for only 1 hour and 12 minutes each and then stop it could be true. There would be 20 shifts of 5000 players, clocking in and out. That's entirely plausible, right?
>>739469654I don't understand why publishers don't see massive red flags when they end up funding these expensive fuckhuge projects with never-ending development cycles.>Helldivers 2, $50M budgetPeak player-count ~450K>Marathon, $250M budgetPeak player-count under 100KMeanwhile, companies like Devolver Digital invests very little into the titles they publish, and the numerous hits make up for the countless flops. I don't understand why AAA companies aren't copying this business model. The era of esteemed developers making high budget masterpieces (Halo 3, Halo Reach) is dead.
>>739483743Because these numbers are theoretical, not saying that the money isn't real, though some of it can also be mostly speculative, but you see this the way you think of your bank account when going to the grocery store, shit's a bit more convoluted than thatYou get gov subsidies simply by virtue of hiring and paying people, on top of the fact that video games (depending on the country) is considered art, and thus the gov will more or less give you tax credits past that point; this is huge, it's much bigger than you might think and it can range from anywhere from 15-ish percent of the budget, all the way up to 50% (tho this last one is pretty rare for big AAA studios, that is a lot of money) You can also even get extra % when hiring labor from outside your country, and that goes BOTH from your origin country AND the country from which you pick the talentThen you also get an extra % of tax write off if your product fails to meet expectations, concord didn't net a 300m loss for sony, anyone believing that is retarded (tho it should be the case, but we live in a democracy) There are also extra grants given to these studios by government because 'it's art', ubisoft is very well known to abuse the shit out of that from canada and france and getting a lot of tax money doing thatSo I'm not saying that you're wrong in your assessment that smaller games might net you more long term; but that's not how they see it, in their head, anything that 'fails' to meet expectations has most of its money coming back their way anyways, and then you only need one or two big hits and make 20x more than any indie or smaller studio might be able to put out, and those are very rare btw, we're talking about one big indie hit every, what, two or three months? Out of the thousands of games releasing in that period?
>>739483575Maraslop truly is Amerigarbage at its finest.
>>739483027The conversation is Marathon's w flop, and the fact Sony is forcing Bungie to kill their successful game to focus on salvaging Marathon confirms it.
>>739455902What's funny is that when it drops to 1000 players they're still going to be supporting the game, constantly losing money just because they're having a blast.
>>739455902There's space for only one extraction shooter in this town and it aint you
>>739455902 Destiny 2 died, and marathon is on life support, any hope for bungie?
I really wish I could applaud them going for something so blatantly unmarketable and unpopular because having even the slightest bravery in design is so rare when you're non-indiebut they stole the artstyle so they can't even get that, it's just bad on all levels
