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>STARS

Post lobbies.
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>>739458957
>There are pedophiles who will mod this handsome man into a cartoon child
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hostan
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241684571527/76561199486452220
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i hate aislop
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>>739460182
boo hoo nigga
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>>739460115
>the lobby is full
dang
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>>739461795
it was full half an hour ago...
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>>739461795
so host another
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>>739460232
Did that tranny get hired as a consultant like Anita?
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>>739461889
Possibly.
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>>739461834
well if the other guy isn't gonna do it,
then ill just do it myself.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241687211938/76561198076213196
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>every path is 5 combats before the first shop or rest site
>pick the one with the most questions so i only do four combats but the first one is also a combat anyways
>get offered 0 block cards
>dont even get offered good damage cards or anything like a bone shards or defile+
>run into some of the hardest hitting hard pools, gold thief and fossil stalker against necro with no block cards
>only one weak potion to help with one hard pool
>8 hp going into the shop
fuck this game
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>>739462195
3/4
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fuck this game. i wish it would just kill me instead of making this play this dogshit run and making it even worse at every floor. can't wait to die in the next floor right before the boss when i inevitably brick defends.
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>>739462980
you know you can abandon the run right?
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>>739460115
GG!
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>>739463346
faggot behavior
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hostan
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241688890202/76561199486452220
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>>739460115
gg
those were some crazy Hidden Gem shenanigans
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>>739463445
Okay I will join there
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>>739463445
I'll move here >>739463430
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>>739463496
I did the same lol
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>>739463382
And bitching and moaning is peak alpha behavior I'm assuming?
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>>739463451
it's dogshit against new aeonglass but it was pretty fun.
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>>739463445
game no longer exists
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>>739463584
does his shit counter Replay?
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hostan again
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241689144815/76561199486452220
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>>739463631
yeah, every replay increases the count so putting it on every card means they flood your deck with wither.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241690338771/76561198093809138 hostin
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>>739459168
I resemble that remark.
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>>739464541
2/4
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>>739462195
ggs, i have no idea how i got damage dealer lol.
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3/4
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>>739464541
I missed it :'(
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>runic pyramid hand clog
fuck, i should have took that act 1 eidolon...
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on my 'eck, someone host
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>>739463649
GG It was nice drilling some dudes
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>>739463649
gg
the drill be drillin' hard. well played
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>>739463708
no fun allowed boss
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>>739466484
just imagine how cancerous the last boss will be
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130 hours, still haven't seen these so hosting to get them
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241693148975/76561198113418712
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>lobby is full
bruh
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>>739466723
don't have time to join a full run, but real talk, why does biased cog feel so much worse in this game?
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>>739466882
no artifact / debuff clense for the players, ofc
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>>739466882
I literally never pick it up. You're committing to finishing a floor in 4 turns when realistically bosses drag on for longer
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>>739466484
Tbf if you put replay on a good card it's still good to play it 3-4 times. And of course with enough exhaust you can do whatever the fuck you want
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A2 cause i cant be assed to use the console
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241694337201/76561198028427902
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>>739467565
3/4
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>>739466723
Rehost? Silent is gone
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>>739467817
Yeah I guess
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>>739467817
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241694737926/76561198113418712
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>>739466484
idk i just beat him with a transfigure deck and had lots of fun putting replay on things and killing him with a 500 damage replay history course pull from below. even had vakku as my ancient which everyone says is "bad" and still won. seems fine to me.
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>>739467945
I did and people joined
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>>739467980
Yeah I'm retarded sry
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>>739467885
3/4
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>>739466882
it's still a guaranteed win with defect. you just need to wait to play it during boss fights until the 2nd time you see it
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>>739462203
>look at map
>say lol no
>abandon
>restart
>have fun
There's no reason to play those runs anon. You get full neow bonus always.
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every floor feels so bad when you get nothing that scales up your turn 1. you walk into any floor and just randomly take 30 damage because you drew 5 cards and none of them are blocks besides maybe one base defend and you dip into your skill pot you saved for just this moment only for it to give you garbage.
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>>739464541
ggs, i have no idea how my silent survived having 20+ withers in the deck lol.
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gg defect neva lose
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>>739468830
lol i just try to pump out as much damage as i could before i died
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>>739459168
there's no accounting for taste
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>>739468906
there is no gameplay advantage to my character having a penis until all the enemies have been modded into monster girls
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>>739467565
comfy run
gg
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>>739469939
gg could have been basically infinite with just a bit more draw but just durdled and did nothing instead
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>>739462980
>dogshit run
>fresnel lens and book of 5 rings
????
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>>739470270
theres no accounting for skill
i got an absolutely KILLER run, glamoured squeeze was my first card, and then because i was fishing for osty cards i died to the coral, because i had fuck all defence, but was doing 80+ damage per turn.
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Really happy with all the changes they made
Silent's card pool becomes much more fun when the enemies are actually hitting for real damage, makes you really have to squeeze for that extra damage. Like Snake Form may actually be a really good card bow
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GG
Queen fucked me hard
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>>739467885
good work bros, I thought we were done when clad died but we pulled through
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>>739462980
>Fresnal Len + Book
>full blocking this turn and could kill next depending on draw pile
>dog shit run
Anyways, you probably shouldn't have picked pull from below, especially not that early
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>>739470662
Yeah you carried it at the end
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>2 Hidden Gems for Replay
>Master Planner for Sly
>Prepared, Dagger Throw and 3 Acrobatics for discard
>Backflips for even for draws
It's near infinite if my hand wasn't limited to 10 cards
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241699991268/76561198043831607
hosting
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>>739471225
>connection keeps timing out
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>>739471326
but we're 3/4 already
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>>739470270
fresnel lens with 2 combats left and no block
book of five rings also too late to heal before the boss
looking back it was maybe doable if i took a scourge but not because of fresnel lens and book of five rings.
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>>739471346
it wont let me in no matter how many times i use rhe link
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>>739471421
Remade the lobby
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241700424017/76561198043831607
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>>739471452
still doesnt work and I can only conclude its a me problem
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>>739471480
RIP
I am giving it 5 more mins then we start 3 man
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>>739471542
OKAY WE GOT 4
WE'RE STARTING
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>Test Subject
Multiple invulnerable phase shifts and intangible turns.
Punishes decks that are too reliant on big explosive turns or have general consistency issues
Beats Ironclad and Regent
>Aeonglass
Hits for large numbers, and quickly adds statuses to the discard pile. Very quickly scales the damage of the statuses
Punishes decks that are too defensive and take too long to kill the boss
Beats Silent and Necrobinder
>Queen
Has a lot of health and hits for big numbers some times
What will they do to rework Queen to bring her in line with the other two
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i'm gonna hoooost
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241701454257/76561199486452220
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>>739472045
2/4
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>>739471926
i feel like the turn number you want to kill aeonglass is the same turn number it was to kill door. the main thing is the dex down. necro can consistently do that much damage in 8-9 turns. now its just harder to solve block. the new triangle elite on the other hand is pretty fucked for necro. its pretty hard to always have the damage needed to kill him before he rapes you multihit as necro.
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>>739472045
3/4
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>>739472432
>i feel like the turn number you want to kill aeonglass is the same turn number it was to kill door
Door really wasn't scaling this fast. You had a free turn to set up relevant powers if you could, and after Door completes his first cycle of debuffs your deck is likely going to be so strong that nothing he does matters anymore since you just exhausted a whole bunch of shit
Aeonglass is immediately active, immediately hitting you for 32, has artifact stacks, and is already starting the count down for the withers. Generally, I feel like if I was ever threatened by Door, it was probably a really weak deck that would have problems in the boss gauntlet anyways, and Door might just help me win by making my deck stronger
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>>739471480
if it says connection timed out it's a possibility of using gameplay affecting mods or using a different sts2 version compared to the host (stable vs beta)
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why are some people so dumb?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241703765210/76561198093809138 hostin
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>>739473168
Macro is a tricky thing for a lot of people to twist their brains around
I remember having so many arguments about how FTL is actually a shit card and should never be picked because you would just lose to Time Eater and Heart if you had it in your deck and some people just still never got it
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>>739473340
2/4
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>>739473340
2/4
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>>739473340
>>739473774
give me like 5 minutes I need to go to the bathroom maybe more people show up during that time
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>tfw so bad at Necro I can only win when runs get outright silly
Hot Cocoa + Chem X + Candelabra with an enchanted Eradicate (plus Akabeko too) and Dirge to top it off. But I find that playing your worst class is fun as well.
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>>739471452
GG lads, I can't believe I got damage leader that run. If only I had a way to retain Volley and have more energy
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>>739474357
Wait no I meant Skewer. Same thing really. You get no energy for Skewer unless you're lucky and game gives you energy relics + at least 1-2 Tactician or something man. I'm still glad somebody had Knockdown because it helped me hit the big numbers on Skewer
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astrolabe or runic pyramid? I'm asking because it feels like pyramid would actually be detrimental for a deck that already churns through it's library so quickly
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Rehosting
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241705594680/76561198043831607
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>>739471452
GG
I feel like I was just applying Vul and you guys did the rest. the game didn't offer a dominate or bully the entire run which is kinda mean. lol
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>>739474442
NVM FIXED
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241705845751/76561198043831607
That should work now

>>739474468
Vuln helped man, don't feel bad
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MSGK.... are powerful.
Sometimes even too strong to win.
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>>739474440
Runic because you're going against Doorguy and you sometimes won't be able to play what you drew on a turn. Also instant pick because you have Relax.
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>>739474440
with THAT much Bloodletting, Pyramid is still probably a good choice.
you're going them together at one point, which means you do nothing in that turn, then your entire deck run without bloodletting for the whole cycle, killing you in the process.
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>>739474489
Rejoin pls >>739474468
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>>739474440
>Colossus
>Expect a Fight
>Relax
>Bloodletting
This is the easiest pyramid pick in the world.
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>>739474489
3/4
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>>739474646
FUCK IT 3 MAN
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ggs
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gg my plan of juggle maxing didn't pan out, so my deck was a bunch of random shit
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ggs
sorry that I practically limped through act 1. the game didn't offer me a single block card until the shop right before the boss.
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>>739475070
its aight, the game gave me your luck instead and blessed me with 3x colossus
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i like getting vakku. honestly im more excited to see vakku than tanx. tanx is boring and his energy relic sucks.
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>>739472682
Do guys here play stable or beta?
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>>739474489
connection time out
rehost pls
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Ironchad you DC'd, rehosting
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241708804622/76561198043831607
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>>739475964
Beta always
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>>739475964
some of the first betas had some decent gameplay changes, and i don't think people have changed back since.
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any slayers?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241709477248/76561199486452220
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>>739476512
2/4
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>>739473340
GG guys, I ended up with a very aggressive necro build, had scythe from the start and had around 90 dmg towards the end
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>>739476618
yeah you were doing hella damage i got a gem anger and just rolled with it
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HOW CAN YOU KEK ME OUT OF QUEEN, IRONCHAD
I WAS GOING ALL IN WITH MY REPTILE TRINKET PLUS MAX STRENGTH PLUS MAX HAND OF SKILLS FLECHETTES MAN
HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME
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>>739476956
mad?
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>>739476972
YES
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>>739474489
gg. sorry for playing so slower
I kinda ran out of gas and forgot to press botton.
well played. you guys debuff game is great.
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>>739471926
>Beats Ironclad and Regent
Regent beats him easily little gay slave
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>>739477013
We had the perfect combo
Weak from Silent
Vuln from Ironclad
Debilitate on Necro
Act 3 was genuinely a breeze
You were healing like 60+ hp per fire too
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>>739477059
My deck was so dogshit at blocking in act2 that I have to use maxHP + Pillow as a 'block' engine. Those rest are juicy as fuck.
Silent was kind enough to give up Mango for me, that's very helpful. thank you.
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I was kinda sceptical of the whole necro etheral mechanic but it's pretty flippin awesome
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>>739477059
>>739477237
lol 2 fur coat
3 free elites
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lobby?
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>>739477496
make one
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>>739477527
last I did no one came
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let me guess, you *need* more
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>>739477594
Where is your Bully? Where is your Dismantle? Where is your other multihit? Where is your Cruelty? Where is your Vicious? Where is your Colossus?
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>>739477527
>>739477543
A10 BETA
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241711860052/76561198143673966
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>>739477651
2/4
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>>739477637
fluff. you could ask where is your Forgotten Ritual
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Yeah you might have dealt more damage and applied more debuffs but I applied more important debuffs and did more strategic damage
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>>739477651
Where the fuck is everyone?
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>>739477872
yeah that's what I was talking about when I asked for a lobby haha. Guess we start in 5 but a 2/4 is CBT
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i got up from bed to join and the game started
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>>739475343
I will not tolerate even incidental crossbow slander
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was a nice try clad bro
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>>739478119
2 maning is rough good try to you too
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241713359900/76561198093809138 hosting
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>>739478427
3/4
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fucking christ the hourglass is brutal now
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>>739477651
Nice try fellas
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>>739477651
Sad, that act 3 was rough
Bottomdecked both copies of wrath form
I was not doing well that run, sorry
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>>739478427
Damn that kinda caught me off guard I thought we had a decent run. FUCK THE CENTIPIDE
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241716249602/76561198093809138 lets go again
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>>739479992
nah sorry I'm done for now I need to hang a picture
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>>739479992
2/4
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>>739479992
3/4
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History course with Malaise+ is very good
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>>739477594
I'd like Break, yes
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>>739479992
gg I was hoping to get knife trap all run but alas
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>>739479992
Why yes, I'd like to receive 0 energy cards and 1 draw card in 3 acts and 4 shops
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I'm going to... I-I'mm-... dear god~ ... I-I'm going to HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241722631356/76561198067728446
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>>739482582
or nah sorry now that I think of it I' gotta take a nap, maybe later
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commons should not appear twice in a row in card rewards
>reward is 3 dogshit commons
>reroll/walk into another fight
>reward is 2 same dogshit commons and uncommon(your deck has no synergy)
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>>739481313
They need to buff the other reward, history course is too busted to skip
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hoostan a4
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199211644062/edit/info
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>>739483965
You didn't just fight the Mysterious Knight and carry a curse/quest card to act 3 just for two random potions and 2 random relics. What a joke.

Maybe if it gave 2 potion slots also. Maybe 3 relics.
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>>739477020
Regent tends to be a very draw order dependent character. If you draw all the star spenders before the star generators or bottom deck your key powers things can get rough. Which is why cards like Royal Gamble and Convergence can be so strong, why Regeng LOVES exhaust effects like Charge and Tyranny, and why the fights Regent tends to have trouble in to are stuff like Entomancer, who significantly encumbers his deck, and Tes Subject, who forces Regent in to a more prolonged fight
When I say a boss "beats" a character I don't mean it's impossible for that character to win, I mean that it's trying to hit that Character's specific weakness and the character has to try harder to win that fight
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>Have a one-in-a-million broken Necro deck that facerolls the entire third floor.
>Take 63 damage in a single turn against the Glass because I was never offered the single Necro exhaust card.
Awful patch.
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>>739485465
I don't think that's how you host, Anon
I'll host instead

beta patch, any ascenscion
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241731890118/76561198261162673
starts when 4/4 or in 8 minutes
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>>739485726
then the run wasnt good was it
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>>739485905
Did that post say the run was good?
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>>739485792
2/4
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>>739485957
the deck cant be 1 in 63 million broken if it doesnt have consistency
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>>739485905
Retard.
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>>739485726
I feel like you're missing the forest for the trees in that you still won the run despite taking 60 damage. Why are you upset about the run getting kind of close in the end? You won. Do you just want the game to roll over for you after a certain point
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>>739486024
I'm gonna spell it out for your sub-60 IQ drooling cretin ass, since looking at the pic is too hard for you.
>facerolls the entire third floor
This refers to taking 0 (zero) damage in every single floor 3 fight, including all three elites and Test Subject as the first boss.
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>>739485726
bro your Eidolon?????????
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this is a very good necrobinder card
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>>739486647
Pretty sure that's a Regent card.
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>>739464825
You certainly do resemble a pedophile.
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>>739485726
>5 defy
lol
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>Bad draw against waterfall giant

Imagine playing this game without using the console
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>>739485792
gg comfy a8 run
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>>739485792
geegee
My deck was only passable but with Debilitate and Enfeebling Touches from me, we were coursing through pretty well
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>>739487795
>multi necro: what is my purpose
>you apply Debilitate and Enfeebling Touch
>oh god
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>>739487795
H-hey I did the occasional 100+ dmg Reap with Lethality
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>>739482386
>>739482452
Don't worry at least you guys didn't take duplication for funnsies
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>>739487897
I know, I just find it funny how Necro CAN just go into full debuff that way. I had run with glamed enfeebling(and second normal one), debilitate, grave blasts and dredge. Only thing I did was keep enemy damage at 0 and debilitate up
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Hostin

steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241739673089/76561198067728446
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>>739488603
2/4
let's wait like 10 minutes
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>>739488603
alright full ready up boys
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thought i was being clever getting a replay 1 conqueror from floor 1
turns out the way it stacks is that it lasts multiple turns, making it fucking useless
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Who hostin
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>>739488758
not really if you have summon forth or cosmic indifference. But you probably dont have energy to pull it off
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I have the feeling that whenever you get the colorful philosopher event you should always go for silent cards, most of the options are pretty self-sustainable and can really be run defining
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>>739490718
but imagine getting that barricade on defect thoooo
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>>739490731
barricade would be good but mostly if your build is very frost oriented, and mine was indeed. but afterimage can just be spammed without a necessary build, and with signal boost it's insane
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>>739485726
so your problem with the patch is that you still won but took damage?
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>>739490718
You should always save scum and see all the card options for maximum fun
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>Changed Sealed Throne card: upgrade changed from Innate -> lowering Energy cost by 1
>Changed Sealed Throne card: upgrade changed from Innate -> lowering Energy cost by 1
>Changed Sealed Throne card: upgrade changed from Innate -> lowering Energy cost by 1
B R I C K E D
Fuck these shit devs
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>>739488603
queen bricking my hand every turn fucking sucks
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>>739488603
I HECKING LOVE playing without Ancient Relics. GG
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>>739490975
I usually do, but more often than not silent offers the best sinergy from my experience. necro, regent and defect are crippled by the other characters not having osty, stars or more than one orb by default
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>>739488603
gg
not my proudest performance, sorry.
keep telling myself I have to wait for Silent, then proceed to not wait, missing x2 damage from Flanking several times.
fortunately, our Regent is a gigachad so we won anyway. well played.
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>>739488603
GG, I had clone double energy and was close to cooking but never got the right cards to really make use of it, even though we visited 2 shops in act 3
also I kinda zoned out during the start of the first phase of experiment and gave it unnecessary boosts
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>>739491052
hey, goop at least exhaust defends
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Talk me out of cloning cascade
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>>739491162
why would I want to rob you of that?
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>>739486679
Don't talk to me if you can't consistently A10.
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>>739491162
clone frenzy or bully, what's the use of having multiple cascades when you already spent your energy on one. I guess you could do it every turn but doesn't seem like a good clone target desu
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>>739458957
I love when I'm actually allowed to have a Serpent Form deck. Really fun.
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>>739491230
>what's the use of having multiple cascades
every single extra cascade in hand is free card play. If you have ONE energy gain card in stack turns every cascade+ from "play 1" to "play 2+" cards while not consuming energy
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>>739491324
oh yeah good point, didn't think of the upgrade
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>>739491217
You've tried bragging about your winrate before but then refused to prove it by uploading your run history.
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>>739459168
what about it? Got problem with that?
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>>739491867
Go groom children somewhere else.
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Literally a choice where every card does nothing for me.
Actually incredible.
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>>739492207
lmao this is the exact thing I was talking about here >>739491059
just start over
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>>739491230
Multiple Cascades means you play your entire deck, maybe even multiple times, with one single play
If a Cascade at 5 energy hits another Cascade, the second one will also play at 5 energy and so on
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>>739492259
I got sunder in the other pick and I can technically give it retain with the osty card so fuck it, ima see how far I can take this cursed run.
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>>739492207
snap can definitely do something for clad, nice way to out yourself as a retard
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>>739492358
.... You need Osty to play it
Where are you getting the summon from, please enlighten us
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>>739492305
dumping one energy just to give retain to a single card hoping they are drawn together seems like a bad idea, but good luck
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>>739492424
You dont need osty to play it you tard, you need osty to do dmg with it.

>Retain dominate
>Retain Fiend fire
>Retain stoke

absolute mong
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>>739491059
>silent offers the best sinergy from my experience
Silent is only one that doesn't have bullshit requirements on cards besides SLY(which are very few)
>you don't need any shiv support to make shiv work
>you can just play poison as bonus damage
>discard lets you dig through deck faster

meanwhile
>oops, got Ironclad self damage support? though luck
>ooops, osty cards without osty
>ooops, got extra orb slots
>ooops, got card that requires stars
>>739492207
ahahahaha, what the fuck. They really need to restrict cards that you can gain from caleido
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>>739492476
Osty cards turn Red and are unplayable if Osty is dead (or doesn't exist).
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>>739492457
its been working okay so far. I killed 4 elites this act so I think so at least.

>>739492358
I literally said right before your post that I took it to pair with sunder but sure.

>>739492649
No you can play it even though its red. There wont be any damage but you can still apply the retain.
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>>739491230
If you havok a cascade with full mana every cascade will play for full mana, pretty much guranteeing an infinite loop that kill anything. If you have the X substance you can also potentially go infinite with a single cascade.
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>>739492476
Holy shit you're right
Wtf-
But High Five does not apply Vulnerable to all enemies and I can't even play it
What is this inconsistent shit
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>>739492649
wrong retard
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>>739492680
Oh shit, my bad. Guess I'm a fucking retard.
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>>739492680
>that sunder
Yeah I understand how you killed those elites
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>>739492717
read the fucking cards
it's order of operation
"Osty deals 7 dmg." Osty doesnt exist so it doesnt happen. Notice the period, there is no 'AND'
"Retain 1 card in your hand."

Again notice the period, the card does 2 things.
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>>739491162
Yeah that just kinda sucked
Don't recommend unless you got chem x or lots of energy I guess
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>>739458957
FAT!
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>>739492717
>>739492765
>Snap is the only card this applies to
>All other Osty cards have Osty doing everything
What a fucking shit show.
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>>739492717
retain on clad is amazing
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>>739492798
How is the new aeon glass? Have't played since the old one.
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>>739492850
If you don't have a way to exhaust/discard the withers, you better have loads of fucking damage or he eats your ass.
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>>739492850
2nd most difficult boss right now. I suspect they're gonna tone down the withers or lower his health a bit. He's slightly overtuned with how fast they ramp since he has so much HP.
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>>739492850
pretty fair and balanced
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>>739492850
Overbuffed
If you're running Shiv Silent, you are not winning without Knife Trap or atleast 4 Prepared+
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>>739492890
>2nd most difficult
after who? Aeonglass is harder than queen and test subject.
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>>739492957
Test subject is the most difficult. Eye Ehm Oh.
Queen feels like the most balanced fight.
Aeon Glass just feels fucking weird.
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>>739493006
At this point maybe they should re-use time eater, but maybe it doesnt work well for multiplayer.
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I don't mind that Withers get stronger and get shuffled into the deck
But why can't I fucking play it
What is this hilariously big overcorrection
I supposed I signed up for this by joining the beta but still
Can't help but lol
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>>739493006
Queen seems much harder than test subject to me due to bound. Test subject lets you play all your cards freely outside of the first phase and really does nothing notable besides big hits and alternating intangible. Queen can absolutely end your run just by putting bound on your most important cards in the same hand causing you to wait an entire deck cycle to get one of them in play.
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>>739493103
bro, just get second wind from colorful red philosopher and compact from caleido
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>>739492831
read high five again it says AND
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>>739493124
She only seems hard if you didn't put any draw in your deck. Draw is how you get around queen and everyone has access to draw, so it doesn't feel shit like Time Eater or Heart in STS1 where shiv decks got completely fucked or something.

You can correct your deck if you see queen. You just need to get draw.
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>>739493124
I don't disagree but you can slightly fight against the Bound stuff
Ironclad has Headbutt
Silent has Well laid Plans
Regent has Cosmic Indifference, Glimmer and Convergence
Necrobinder has Graveblast, Dredge, Snap
Defect has Hologram
And all of them can buy an Equilibrium
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>>739493232
Obviously I put draw in my deck. I'm talking about hands that fuck you anyway. Bound is a much more punishing mechanic than anything test subject does. Often you have to play a draw card as your bound card and then when you don't draw into more draw or something important you are just shit out of luck because you should have played one of the other 2 bound cards instead.
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>>739493326
>just draw good cards when you need them
Damn I should have thought of that.
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>>739493401
nigga what
all of these cards are used to pull stuff from discard pile you couldn't play precisely because of the bound shit. Or retain hands that were not plaayable because of bound
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>>739493478
dont waste time on retard anon
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>>739493478
>Draw hologram and important cards on the same turn
>they are all bound
your advice is just retarded and you are talking like no one else knows basic shit.
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>>739493542
What kind of shit deck are you building where you only have 3 important cards? Post win rate.
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>>739493542
I won't disagree that it does not happen. I've probably had similar hands considering I do find Queen harder than Test Subject 7/10
But surely, you are analytic to make a choice between something in the discard pile vs Hand?
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>>739493326
Every single time I fight queen
>3 good bound cards
>1 strike and curse not bound
>next turn
>3 good cards bound
>2 strikes not bound
fuck you queen you piece of shit trash whore
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Let me know if I got it right.
In act 2, if you deal damage with attacks, you get fucked. Alternatively, if you deal damage with skills, you get fucked.
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The real issue with Queen is that every time I get unceasing top I have Queen as the boss.

>>739494261
>Get fucked for attacking
What?
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>>739494261
You need to scale quick
For both of them
Honestly I think Entomancer/bee elite is still worse
Only deck that probably gets walled by Infested Prism is Necrobinder that has only big Doom cards and no Sleight of Flesh to deal dmg quick
Or I guess Regent with Radiate and Lunar Blast decks will suffer too? Is that even a thing
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>>739494774
Radiate Regent is based around having access to Genesis and Monologue or Throne.
Lunar Blast Regent is based entirely around Monologue + a fuck ton of 0 cost cards or double orbit. both of which are too slow anyway.
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OH GOD IM GONNA HOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

A10:
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>>739492207
I take it all back. Snap unironically carried this run so hard. being able to retain things like colossus or blur made all the difference in these last bossfights, holy shit.

Also shoutout to puzzle box, it gave me an ashen strike which with all the exhaust stuff ended up hitting 150 damage, which with juggling is what allowed me to kill the aeonglass.
New aeonglass kinda hurts, scary guy.
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>>739495795
you're welcome
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>>739495748
2/4
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>>739495839
I literally picked it before anyone said anything lmao dont confuse me with the anon that didnt know how it worked. >>739492305
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>>739495748
3/4
need one more
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>>739495795
I find it kind of stupid that retain is considered "class" idea locked almost exclusively to Necro(and not that Necro just has MORE of it). Imagine if only Ironclad could exhaust cards
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>>739493816
Sorry I was being a cunt. It's good advice. I don't have trouble with the fight I just think it's the hardest by a little bit.
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SOMEONE HOST YOU BUMS
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Hosting a spire run to end all spire runs. Rules are we have to take a path that fights the most elites NO EXCEPTIONS. Every arc every elite lets go
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241760504622/76561198047008744
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>>739496669
2/4 lets go you pansies we start at 4/4
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>>739496927
im too scared
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el classico
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>>739497198
>Speedster+
Is speedster's upgrade innate?
Makes sense that you beat Aeonglass then
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This card is fucking shit for 2 cost.
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>>739497652
yes that's the upgrade
but i had skewer lethal regardless
the thing is, if your hand is full, the status is automatically discarded, the fight is not an issue for clone + draw at all
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>>739497725
I missed the Skewer lmao
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>>739497697
why is this even rare?
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>>739497830
I think the reasoning is because you can have multiple Sovereign Blades
Still too costly to even play this though
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>>739497830
because it deals 20 unconditional damage
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>>739498007
shit for a rare with 2 cost
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>>739497697
Works better on Minion cards than the Blade desu
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hosting beta a10
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241763470677/76561198045448277
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>>739498215
3/4
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GET IN YOU LAST FUCK, I'M GOING RANDOM AND WE NEED A SLUT NECRO WHO PICKS DEBILITATE
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>>739495748
GG!
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ggs mayhem played eidolon in the aeonglass fight and exhausted all my good cards while all the withers were still in the drawpile
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>>739497830
Because it has a lot of text
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>>739495748
GG
Think this is the slimmest deck I've ever had at the end of a multiplayer run (especially once I'd played my powers/exhaust cards and the ethereal strikes/defends exhausted themselves). Worked pretty well
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>>739497697
Needs reworking, maybe 1 cost. A lot of colorless cards are high cost and this being 2 cost means you're probably not going to be able to play it and wait for the deck to shuffle unless you have convergence.

I never pick it.
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>>739499462
just make the copy free to play this turn
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>>739499559
That might be too strong.
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>>739500198
>14 damage, your next colorless card costs 0
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>>739495795
snap with ironclad draw is probably good. its always so mid on necro because you never can line it up and afford to play it until your powers and souls are in play, and, even once you can line it up, good defensive cards like enfeebling touch and defy are all ethereal anyways.
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>>739496669
ggs boys
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>>739496669
SLAAAAY SISTAAAS

this went way better than I expected lol
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>>739500512
>2 cost, duplicate a colorless card. it costs 0 this turn. Exhaust.
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has anyone yet modded Watcher back into sts2?
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>>739502283
where the futa?
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>>739502354
in your pants
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>>739502283
she's supposed to be blind
and have a cock
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>>739498215
Fuck that Aeonglass dude
I died WITH a Royal Stamp'd Prepared+ for Wither turns
Feels like Silent needs to get a Well Laid Plans just for this boss
I'm glad that I held back on Test Subject phase 1 atleast. Or atleast I think we did the right amount of holding back with skills
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241771825865/76561197997192985

lob
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>>739502521
Test subject is rough with silent and regent. Such is life without debilitate.
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>>739502910
3/4
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>>739496127
That's not really true? Ironclad and Defect are the only classes without access to native Retain. Silent has Well-laid plans and Snakebite (the GOAT), Regent has Convergence and Royal Gamble, and Necrobinder has all her retain cards.
This is by design, Ironclad is supposed to have consistency issues and Defect's temporary focus cards would probably be too good with easy access to Retain
This is much like how Silent and Defect don't have real access to Exhaust outlets
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>tfw burned out on spire2
>having fun going back to monster train 2
Love the fast pace
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hosting a10 beta
never hosted before wanaa try it
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241771825865/76561197997192985
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>>739504449
I'll join and pop your cherry :3
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>>739504632
this mf hosted before don't believe his lies
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>>739504682
it's already full anyways wtf how so fast
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>>739503804
>2 neutral
>2 Regent
>2 Silent
>billion Necro cards
I'd say this is "Necro" class idea, maybe because of well laid plans it's Silent's too

>This is much like how Silent and Defect don't have real access to Exhaust outlets
Defect has unconditional 0 cost exhaust and only reason why Silent doesn't has exhaust because they initially designed Ironclad around exhaust and Silent around discard
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241774251576/76561198036813470
am i not doing it right? it just says "waiting for players"
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>>739504880
game no longer exists, try refreshing your profile
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>>739504449
this one says it's full
>>739504880
this one says the game doesn't exist anymore

you need to refresh the steam page where you get the link from, on the top left corner is a refresh button
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trying again...
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FYI putting adroit on your claws with 2 ferals is as broken as you would imagine.
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>>739504860
>Defect has unconditional 0 cost exhaust and only reason why Silent doesn't has exhaust
Scavenge is totally unpickable garbage that never makes it in to a single deck
And Silent doesn't have an exhaust outlet because Exhaust is an EXTREMELY strong effect that completely warps deck building when it's good. Silent not actually being able to get rid of cards is an intentional weakness because the Silent card pool is already so good at cycling efficiently, an Exhaust outlet would just make Silent be able to very trivially deal with her bad starting deck
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Hostan
starting at A10, but any A is welcome, I'm down for a comfy low A game
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>>739506286 (me)
We got 2, I can wait for 4 even if it takes a while, no problem
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>>739505929
>Scavenge is totally unpickable garbage that never makes it in to a single deck
If Defect needed exhaust they would pick it. Ironclad's pick True Grit and Scavenge is better than true grit.
>Silent not actually being able to get rid of cards is an intentional weakness
that's not correct statement. Silent has billion ways to get rid of cards [from her hand], they designed Ironclad about cycling deck and Silent cycling hand. Exhaust-Discard duality.
You see how that's different from retain
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>>739502910
GG sorry about the missed shop, didn't realize we changed routes.
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gg's my silents big fat deck smothered the puny wither cards
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>>739502910
GG I had just enough suicide shivs into Aeon to contribute
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>>739502910
I have no energy and i must strike
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>>739507000 (me)
forgot pic
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>try watching that tsym guy who kept getting shilled here
>good watch at first
>halfway through the run he starts making tongue noises and clicks before every single sentence and becomes unwatchable
not a single tolerable sts streamer exists
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divergence
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>>739506587
>If Defect needed exhaust they would pick it.
If Scavenge was Recycle they would pick Scavenge. But Scavenge is not Recycle, Scavenge is 1 energy to go -1 card now and gain 2 energy NEXT turn(and go +1 card next cycle), instead of being 0 energy to go -1 card and going energy THIS turn. And no, Scavenge isn't better than True Grit, for multiple reasons, most importantly that True Grit actually does things. Also different card pools result in different contexts yadda yadda
>that's not correct statement. Silent has billion ways to get rid of cards [from her hand],
Discard is not in anyway analogous to exhausting. The card you discard is still in your deck. When you go to your next cycle, that card is still in your draw pool. What makes Exhausting so strong is that you remove the card from your deck, meaning that when you hit your second cycle you have effectively gone card positive. The more you exhaust, the more card positive you get, until you've created a effective loop and only draw the good cards
Discard, for the most part, is a downside unless you have the specific discard pay outs, unlike exhaust which has a lot of inherent value. When it comes to the Silent's card pool, the extensive presence of a lot of card draw would make the card advantage aspect of exhaust sources VERY strong, Silent already has 0 problems drawing through a 30 card deck in 3 turns as it is now, when that deck is just naturally getting smaller turn by turn, Silent's natural lean to combo lines becomes way too strong and way too consistent. Well-Laid Plans is already kind of pushing things as is. Also that's why I compared exhaust and retain, these are both deck fixing mechanics, which Discard is not.
>Ironclad about cycling deck and Silent cycling hand
What? That sentence just doesn't make sense. "Cycling hand" just isn't a thing. When you draw cards you draw cards, and eventually you cycle your discard pile in to your draw pile. That's how cycling works.
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>>739507693
you sure that wasn't xecnar?

he has a shitty ESL accent and constantly makes some weird snorting noise every 30s
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>>739504880
>>739505061
you need to end the game, start a new multiplayer one where you can pick the save file from our last round, refresh your steam page and get the new link and then post it here
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>>739507693
Become a potty enjoyer

https://www.twitch.tv/potty
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rehosting failed session?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241780311967/76561198036813470
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>>739507806
no im not sure im actually illiterate and dyslexic and may have misintepreted xecnar as tsym_ and also confused his strong unintelligable strong chinese accent for a normal english sounding voice and also accidentally hacked into xecnar's webcam and watched him play while not streaming and talking to himself constantly instead of going to twitch and typing in tsym
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>>739508097
i know, i just wanted a reason to shit on xecnar's bitch ass
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the thing that pissed me off the most about asians at college, especially chinese people in particular, is that they all eat with their mouths open and make very loud chewing and other eating noises constantly
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beta lobby
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>>739508256
3/4
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>>739507894
GG WOOOOOOOO we made it!!!
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well gg, didn't know what i was doing, didn't mean to host a0, but it was fun
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fuck you too tez
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Can't fucking win on A8 with defect to save my life. Dog shit character
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>>739508543
I caught on way too late that it was the lowest ascension
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>>739508561
Shit in multi, he's fine in singleplayer.

Git gud.
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>>739508552
Cookie is a strong relic
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>>739508561
Bro your chill? Bro your Darkness?
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>>739508552
when are they going to change mittens, no one picks that shit.
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>>739508634
defect in multi is chilling while playing with orbs, and when everyone else dies he has the sustain to carry
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>>739508552
Don't talk shit about my grandma you little nigger
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wtf killed mecha knight
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yooooo when did they change Pumpkin???
I was under the impression Pumpkin was
>have energy for act 2 alone
instead of what it actually is now:
>you have 5 combats of extra energy but then you need to recharge by sac'ing a Campfire
I already had a decent deck and a nice pathing with many campfires and Elites, just had a handy win easily because I did not face Aeonglass
Basic bitch StS 1 shiv deck tbqhwy
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>>739508862
You have accuracy + and ToT, you would have probably killed Aeonglass pretty easily
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>>739508862
wtf is that act 1 pathing nigga how did you survive
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>>739509267
nibba look at his relics and card reward, he got blade of ink floor 0 into leading strike into shuriken from shop and mr beast statue to handle the upcoming 2 elites
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>>739509267
Luck favors the bold or something
Had an explosive ampule for the second elite, which was Phantasmal Gardener
Still nearly did get pulverized by Terror Eel

Of course it was luck and my win rate is awful, but that's part of the fun no?
Going for a risky gambit, come what may :D
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>>739508761
I nightmared a 0 cost knockdown, so the immediate turn after it was 3 x 3 x 3 damage for any attack from any of you
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>vantom 9/10 runs
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
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>>739506286
man the queen fucked me with the bound, exhausted down all my ethereals
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>>739510182
Nightmare fuel
Especially if it's underdocks and you meet the double Cultist node. imo that is FAR harder than double Nibbit
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>>739506286
>damage leader necro with no block
im sorry boys
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The upgrading withers are a war crime.
Nice try guys. I needed cosmic indifference or something to make the deck actually good. I might host another one
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>>739510135
none of the A1 bosses are hard faggot
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>>739506286
I was not ready for the new boss. Really need some way to discard against him or it's joever.
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>>739506286
>first time with the new boss
didn't know his new status shit doesn't exhaust. would have taken second wind in act 1
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>>739510516
New Aeonglass is evil
Demands that you have high value cards.
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just eat the spire bro, it's not that hard
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>>739510845
Feed feels more shit in this game.
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>>739508552
has anyone ever picked mittens
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>>739510879
it's still busted as shit if you start with it
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>>739510879
Feed is strong as fuck
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>>739511110
i did to try them, even won with it, but would never pick again, it's shit
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>>739510879
it's basically unplayable in multiplayer
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>>739510879
It goes without saying it's bad in multiplayer unless you have voice comms with everyone and tell them to wait patiently for you to fatten yourself up with Lethal
I still think it's strong in solo
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>>739511372
its okay solo but it's not nearly as good as it was in sts1, maybe the lack of a4 i dunno

its probably because reaper is gone
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>>739511372
they really gotta remove the if killed cards from multiplayer. they literly do nothing
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>>739511680
this, or make them execute at low health thresholds based off of how many people are there
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>>739508552
golden compass is really good if you have spoils map
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>>739510879

More things with damage gating, no Exhume, less healing sources in general - no Limit Break and Reaper Shenanigans either.

That does give it the edge in that it is one of the only cards that heals you, but it's still so-so.
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>>739511861
compass is the second worst relic from tez behind the mittens
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ggs big spire dick art bros
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>>739509267
My act 1s look like that a lot. You just make sure to be able to branch away from the double elite fight with no fire if you lose too much HP. I think my average HP loss for most act 1 elites is like 15-20 so it's often doable you just cut it close.
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>>739511904

Compass is fine honestly, getting extra rooms can be pretty huge especially when they're campfires and relics anyway. The main issue is if you're Elite Hunting but Elites are still worthless in STS2.

It's basically all the utility of Little House but not shit. Also Soup is still trash, I don't care what people say - to get full value you need to have not removed any Strikes, which is very unlikely.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241786863854/76561199214357271
Hostan again, any ascension welcome.
Anyone down for a daily lobby tomorrow?
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>>739511904
I don't disagree just saying I found it useful for good in that niche situation. I was going to possibly die before I made it to a shop after the 600 gold otherwise. It guarantees you can get the gold and see a shop before any elite fights while the converging paths of the spoils map often force elite fights before it on a normal map.
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>>739507765
Is Purity broken on Silent?
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>>739512110
lowrolled a not yet on the random rare card rip
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>>739503804
is snakebite remotely good?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241787830348/76561198113418712
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>>739512681
2/4
GET INNNNNNNNNN
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>>739512576
it's a decent common, not great, not good, grab it for early dmg

pickable later if you got good poison synergy
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>>739510275
I won, but fuck that seed.
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>>739507765
btw, according to sts.fun Scavenge has higher winrate than true grit
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>>739512576
It's nice to have when you are running a shiv deck since it gives you a solution to hunter killer and entomancer. But on other combats you can just retain it and ignore it.
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>>739512576
it retains, it does dmg, upgraded it's 10 poison

there's lot of enemies that have a turn where they buff or some shit, good opportunity to use it then when you got nothing else to play, it's just "okay"
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>>739512935
True grit isn't that good in STS2. People just can't let it go because it was so fundamental to his playstyle in the first game.
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>>739513206
The fuck? I see true grit I pick that shit.
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>Mummified hand from the elite right before the boss campfire
Who needs voltaic?
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>>739513445
>1 energy 7 block exhaust wincon
t-thanks game
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>>739513686
>7
bro, your upgrade?
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>>739513686
>Gets rid of curses
>Exhausts drum
>Helps thin my deck

Post win rate.
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>>739513812
>hits your bash
>hits your Ashen Strike
>hits your Demon Form
>misses 5 status in the hand
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>>739513881
>Plays it first
Post win rate.
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>>739513756
>wasting an upgrade on true shit
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>>739513912
>plays ashen strike for 6 damage
>plays Demon form when enemy hits for 25
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>>739513984
>Plays demon form in hallways
>Crying about 3 extra dmg on ashen strike

Shitter confirmed.
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>>739513925
>how come i cant beat aeon?
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>>739512110

My god this is the worst regent run I have ever had

ZERO BLOCK CARDS
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>>739511372
Lots of stuff in general feels a bit weird balance wise in multiplayer. For example "enemy loses X Strength this turn" cards are already very good solo, but they become ridiculously good in a party.
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>>739514095
>he magically has enough energy to play all important cards in hand so true grit misses them
>he plays cards at bad order just for privilege of getting 7 block and not drawing defend on next cycle
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>>739514565
Multi is just an additonal "fun" aspect of the game, they aren't going to balance the game around it.
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>>739512110
that was so fucking close what the hell, its my fault tho i skipped a second ashen strike
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>>739514697
I just want a fucking lobby browser in-game so I don't need to friend random fags or post links here.
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>>739514191
Second wind mogs.
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>>739514408
For me, it was zero damage. I got nothing of value, so I took the Forge+draw card out of desperation right before the boss of Act 1, then the dragon had only bad options, then I finally got Summon Forth, but one bad draw killed me in the crab fight.
>>739512110
Good attempt, rough rewards, I'll host again tomorrow, today's runs were hard
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>>739512110
brutal, if i didn't bottom deck hang I wouldve killed two turns earlier.
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>>739514921

Problem is I was just dead weight, basically it was a death spiral once anyone started wasting Mends/Potions on a Regent with no block or damage.
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How do I make a link to my lobby? Only seem to be able to invite friends
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>>739515129
Go to your profile, right click "join game", copy the link
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>>739515129
Steam profile page,

Copy the link of the "Join Game" button. Make sure you refresh your profile page every time you make a new lobby
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>>739511110
I won my first A10 run thanks to mittens.
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Are chinese players mad about Aeonglass?
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>>739515164
>>739515220
ty anons
Here's the link: steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241791381245/76561198138106515
Anyone welcome, any ascension, I'm pretty bad but I like A10
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wait how do I chat in game lobby
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>>739508561
nvm absolutely dunked on this hourglass looking ass nigger, goatse was by far a better boss this is just worst time snail. fuck chinks and fuck the aussie cucks making this game for listening to them, purple goatse needs to return in alternate acts/act4 or sth
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>>739515434
thats the neat part
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>>739515434
you dont. just v for emote wheel and draw on map
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>>739515515
there's some way to thumbs up/down though?
Anyway, waiting on a fourth. A3>>739515384
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>>739512681
CAN AEONGLASS FUCK OFF ALREADY???
THE WITHERS GO THROUGH OSTY, I LITERALLY DIE IF I DECIDE TO NOT TAKE BIG MUSHROOM
GG BUT I'M STILL PISSED AAAAAAAAAA
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>>739475027
was thinking about you this run
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>>739515789
gg
4 stack Sword of Stone is a sad thing
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The Strike dream, Soup, Dummy and Lighter
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>>739516079
>STRIKE+ (5)
Fishing Rod hits or..?
Also did Demon Form ever even come in to play?
Or was it a desperation pick for act 1 boss
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>>739516217
Yeah, Fishing rod hits. And Demon Form was purely for Waterfall Giant
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>>739516309
I pick Rose here 9 times out of 10
If I'm desperate I pick Lord's Parasol
Seer Talon.... I picked this once and bottom decked all 3 Wishes. Too salty to ever pick it again
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>>739516079
umm your miniature cannon, sweetie? try harder next time.
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I CANT HOLD IT IN
IM GONNA....
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

A10:
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241793239809/76561197977064021
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gentlemen, design non-dogshit upgrade for Thrash. I don't remember ever upgrading it manually
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>>739516607
>thrice
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>>739516607
keep the damage the same but it adds a line that says "permanently increases your hip width in real life by 1 inch"
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>>739516538
2/4
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>>739516538
3/4
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>>739516607
>Deal 4 damage twice. Exhaust a random Attack in your Hand and add its damage + Y to this card.
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>>739508747
I take it on Ironclad or with shiv Silent all the time
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come back to us marvin
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>>739516607
[...] and add DOUBLE its damage to this card
Or the upgrade moves the first line to the end of the card so it gains the damage before attacking the first time.
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>>739517014
we miss u :(
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>>739516607
it's a 4 damage upgrade on a 1cost attack, which is higher than the average 3 and lower than the super high 5 that usually exhausts (molten fist)
it's perfectly fine and doesn't need to be changed, it's good to have cards with low upgrade priority
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>>739515384
>>739517014
Game crashed. Host needs to save and exit and rehost from save for me to rejoin.
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>>739516763
Y = 2
Best I can do
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>>739517194
on it
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241794452371/76561198138106515
lmk if works
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I feel like the current card pool for the defect results in a lot of pile decks. There are less orb pay off cards compared the the first game like electrodynamics and blizzard.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241794559964/76561197997192985

lobby for real people and not bots
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>>739517183
problem is that it's damage on a card that doesn't need it, it's not just low priority, its "I'd rather upgrade any non-starter defend than upgrade this". Imagine for a second if upgrading Genetic Algo did not upgrade block gain but upgraded +4 base block, would anyone EVER upgrade that card?
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>>739517743
but all 1cost attacks that don't get a debuff increase with upgrade are low priority, literally all of them
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>>739517615
2/4 come
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>>739516607
Letting you pick the attack would be okay and doesn't sound too overtuned. I don't know that I'd go out of my way to upgrade it in that case but I'd be happier with it than a damage increase. It would be nice if you have something like Mangle with an additional property so you want to be able to play Thrash without losing that other card.
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bring doormaker back.
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gg
multiplayer is fun
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>>739517367
very nice game guys, thanks for hard carrying, shittiest defect deck i have ever made lmao
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>>739517996
sounds like Anthony is bad game designer
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>>739518851
The plasma was really useful for heavenly drill
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>>739519124
niceee, i was hoping that would help, silent molested the queen with accelerant lmao
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>>739516538
Pretty random to get 3 clads
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>>739516538
GG!

Exhaust clad is fun.
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>>739518854
Why anthony and not the asian one
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ggs test subject was workin us, nice pot
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>>739516538
GG
I think this is at least the third time random selection has forced me to be the odd one out in an otherwise mono-character team
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>>739519467
I had clad picked because I'm tired of going random and getting defect, so I'm just manually rotating now.
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>>739518541
I'm not saying Silent has it bad, but Necrobinder has it worse
Those statuses cards bypass Osty entirely, it's mental
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>>739517615
whew
we got destroyed
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>>739518541
>+3
Wtf, so cards CAN be upgraded multiple times
Where the fuck is my Searing Blow
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>>739520020
What does Necrobinder even have for card removal? All that's coming to mind is Eidolon.
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>>739520476
Cleanse
Seance
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241797997562/76561197997192985

doormaker? anime mods? what are you talking about, let's go fight slimes
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>>739520394
I saw a mod that allowed any numerical buffs on cards to be upgraded multiple times, so the game engine allows for it easily.
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>>739520551
>anime mods
all my characters are cute girls now
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>>739520536
I feel like they wouldn't help much with Withers because you probably want something to remove from your hand, not to remove from your draw pile. I haven't fought the new Aeonglass with Necrobinder though so maybe it works out better than I'm assuming.
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>>739520536
>Cleanse
>>1 energy, Summon 3 (5), destroy a card in Draw Pile
That is so shit for 1 energy
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>>739520730
it's fine if you have a smaller deck. necro has a lot of cards like hang and no escape that benefit from cycling a ton.
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Hey dudes just reached 3000 hours of playtime
When can I expect to start getting good?
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>>739521240
Though don't forget Glasshole counters both of those since he has 3 artifact for some reason. Personally I think the queen being the one with artifact would make the most sense since she's a collector. That actually gives me a neat idea she should have a couple of references to old relics that were in one but aren't in two as passive buffs.
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get eradicated bitch ass triangle faggot. not ruining my necro run today.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241799784326/76561198093809138 hostin
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>>739522206
3/4
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>>739472682
Thanks lad, updating to the beta fixed it and i joined >>739522206 properly.
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>>739522441
no problem i've just been in these threads enough to know how the game responds and does with certain issues.
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>>739522104
sometimes this stupid game just wants you to lose. i went two whole acts with literally no block cards offered besides two negative pulse (i had one), two afterlifes (lol), and three bone shards (i had two already), and one grave warden (which i had). took a danse too but never saw a 2 cost card besides high five and no borrowed time. bone shards could get me through hallways but boss instantly killed me basically as soon as he buffed because i couldn't block for more than 18 on a good draw.
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>>739522206
Not sure what could have been done differently.
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>>739522886
>i went through two whole acts with literally no block cards offered besides the 8 cards it offered and the three that i already had taken
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>>739522206
Fuck my faggot ass internet.
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>>739523215
can you rejoin or
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>>739523260
using the link says cant join one in progress. if theres some way to do it from in game your gonna have to spoonfeed me.
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>>739523215
>No new posts
do we need to restart?
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>>739523260
when someone disconnects the host has to re.open the room (rehost)
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>>739522206
>>739523307
try >>739517194
maybe?
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>>739523014
killing osty does not work in bosses, afterlife is a base defend that exhausts, negative pulse is a base defend. grave warden was the only passable block card. kaleidoscope offered no block either. if you would like to prove this dogshit necro seed is easy then be my guest but i don't think necro gets by here by blocking. if you pick scroll boxes maybe you get defy or some shit and can pretend you're good at the game.
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>>739523335
>>739523346
rehoisrt steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241801127908/76561198093809138
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>>739523369
Necro gameplay summarized:
>get no Defy
>lose
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>>739520730
>removes strikes or defends you dont want to draw into
>removes curses befroe you draw them
>also gives you block

Some of you fags are true shitters.
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My fucking internet. I hate it and myself. I will not be playing again after this assuming we even finish with how this is going. Can you rehost?
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>>739523376
defect more like defective router
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>>739524097
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241801127908/76561198093809138
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>>739524148
wrong code bro
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>>739524179
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241802044259/76561198093809138
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>>739521580
i do think it's dumb that it hits hard right out of the gate, has artifact, and has way more hp than it has any right to have.
if we want it to be in line with the other act 3 bosses it probably needs to lose the artifact or have it's a8 hp reduced.
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someone bake new bread, im not doing it again
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>>739524879
it has the least hp of all the bosses.
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>>739524951
Aeon? No it doesn't.
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>>739523976
I'd rather draw into the defends you twat
Summon does not do much vs Aeonglass because the issue is that the Withers go through Osty
In effect it's decent, but it's not good enough for Aeonglass considering it's 1 energy.
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>>739525097
>I'd rather draw into the defends you twat
>cleanse gives 5 hp, same as the defend your deleting
>I'd rather draw into the defend
lmao
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>>739524932
i gotchu
>>739525138
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241803117266/76561197997192985

lob
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>>739525147
You are fucking insane to be spending an upgrade on Cleanse
That is part of the issue
Summon 3(5) is not enough
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>>739525201
instantly full what the hell
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>>739525218
even at 3 it's fine
you are a fucking retard for wanting the defend instead of your damage cards, you'd rather waste 1 defend and increase the wither counter, rather than get to your good cards

this is why you struggle and are shit
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>>739524951
it's different and you know it. aeonglass is the boss you don't want an extended fight with the most, but it's objectively the hardest to burst down.
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>>739525150
lol yer thread got rekt brony faggot
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>>739525319
Ok man, I'll listen to you when you beat an Aeonglass with a Cleanse in deck
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>>739525349
But it’s not any different. Glass is the smallest total health pool and he doesn’t force you to split damage and debuffs across two guys or multiple revives and he doesn’t go intangible either.
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>>739525502
its easy to call him easy when you just say what he doesnt have instead of what he has
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>>739525319
Most of us would not play the Cleanse to begin with, retard
Why are you circling back around to deleting a strike or defend
Sure we'd like to delete it but if the choice is to play Cleanse or something else that is not strike or defend, 9 times out of 10 you're going to be playing the other card
Because, guess what, Cleanse's puny 3 Summon is not worth it
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>>739525621
>>739525386
shut the fuck up same fag, you're going to play your hand and thin your deck, especially if you have the energy to do it

just admit you fucking suck and move on
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Just got A10 done on the Regent after being stuck for a while.

I heard a streamer mention something that helped me out a lot. In STS1 the best strategy for Act1 was usually to play aggressively and kill as many elites as possible. If you did that, you could go into the Act1 boss with very low health and usually have a deck good enough to win.

STS2 is different. The Act1 boss can hit you hard, and you need to go in with 35+ HP no matter how good you deck is.

On my last win I played very conservatively. I got 7 relics from the 600 gold map and the Pael power that gives you a relic for every 2 card skips. I removed 8 cards with Cookout and got up to 120 HP for the act3 bosses.

I've also had good luck with using Winged Boots to score 3 extra campfires.
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>>739525386
>>739525621
See pic and >>739467916
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>>739525502
you can just ignore the queen's minion if you have enough damage to kill before the minion scales, and you don't need to block when you find lethal on any of test subject's phases. artifact means you can't use vuln, etc. to multiply your damage unless you have enough debuffs to brute force through it.
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I pretty much always make it through the act 1 boss unless its a bad draw against vantom/waterfall giant or its the kin. Hits too hard considering you're working your way through what amounts to 300 hp



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