>Hello. This is Fox. Thank you for reaching Nintendo. How may I assist your call?>Where are the games? Why are there no good games?>Sound like you want to reach out to the compliments, suggestions, and complaints department. I will forward your call but can you please first verify your age.>24>I'm sorry but we only provide services for ages 4-12. Have a good day.
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>>739465038So does the PS5
>>739463486Is this what all SF threads are gonna be going forward? Just shitposting about the redesigns and literally nothing else?
>>739465817what else is there to post about? a remake is literally just redesign, nothing new
>dabba dabbadadub dabba
>>739465817It's poor white kids seething at Nintendo with a couple of Krystal gooners in the mix.
>>739467006>white kidsqrd
>>739465817They already were that if not gooning to krystal
>>739463486yeah I'll have a fucking uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhStarfox 64 remake
>>739465817Bro its a remake of 64 again, the only thing we CAN talk about is the shit they actually changed: the designs
>>739465817Before then it was lamenting that SF is dead and nintendo isn't doing anything with itThen again considering nintendo has decided to remake 64...again. For the third time. Well. I suppose this would be the end result
>>739467960It's a 2 hour game with a slap of paint
>>739468361that's disingenuous
>>739465817At least it's a new flavor of stale bullshit. All they've been for the past 10 years is>Hey, remember 64?>Yep.and hypothetical pipe dream ideas about what people would like from a new game, which would never ever be implemented in a million years because Ninty are actual fucking retards. Surprise surprise, the next new game isn't a new game at all, so there's still nothing meaningful to talk about.
>>739467960>it's completely remade from the ground uphow much effort it took to merely conjure a simulacrum of a 30 year old game is not of my concernjesus christ
>>739463486YOU ARE A CIA AGENT.
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>>739467803I thought it was a remake of the SNES star fox
>ROB>Re-create a 20th century Earth based American restaurant by the name of Golden Coral. Occupy the restaurant with diners so that it looks like an average Friday night for the time Also, I want a copy of one Fara Phoenix, as my server for the evening. Not an exact copy mind you. Add say. 30 Ibs of extra mass to her buttocks, thighs and breasts. Engage door locks, authorization code "Fox 28740 GAMMA", and disable comms. I am not to be disturbed.>Oh, and ROB... set fried chicken and gravy to unlimited, and disengage all safety protocols.
>>739471393>kzztFox! You better slow down! That's gonna snap your arteries! I'm a mechanic, not a surgeon!
>spend the last 16 years in every star fox thread where time and time again we brainstorm ideas for the next star fox game, how the series can evolve, how it can become good again>in that time, we've had three new star fox games, one was a reboot of 64, and two were a remake of 64When I think of all the time wasted here discussing and hoping to see what this franchise could become it makes me want to kill myself
>>739471672Relax, Slippy! If my arteries snap before the mission ends, just bill General Pepper for replacement parts!
>>739471902More or less, starfox would work much better as an actual animated series than games. The characters all have a lot of personality, but there's very little way to make that shine in a series of on rails shooter. I think that's why people liked Fox so much in the Mario Galaxy Movie.
>>739471672>pronounced as "blr blrp blr blrp"
>>739471393Bro is literally describing to us his sexual fantasies and hiding it as a starfox shitpost.Sorry anon, that greentext is waaaay too detailed just to be a joke.
>>739471987i didn't. that was a very cliche and flanderized characterization, yelling about TOTALLY COOL BARREL ROOOLLLLSSSS
I want to pick her up and give her ear scritches.
>>739472140Falco would have put him in his place, Peppy would have just ignored his penisy attitude, and Slippy would be insecure and tried to improve. Fox by himself doesn't work as well.
>>739471393>Fara Phoenix
>>739465817I missed the reveal,was it just a straight remake?Is there any news if it's switch 2 exclusive I was saving for the rumored OoT version of the system instead
>>739472172Give her bigger tits and we're got something good here.
>>739472140>TOTALLY COOL BARREL ROOOLLLLSSSSNintendo themselves have run that shit into the ground, you can't really blame others for following suit.https://youtu.be/Oz8a-WctBS8?t=35
>>739472137>>739472427You okay buddy
>>739471902As a former Pokemon fan I fully 100% empathize with this pain. We didn't know how fucking good we had it with the spin-off titles in third gen.
>>739472593there was a pokemon mystery dungeon game on the switch, but it was just a 3D remake of PMD red and blue
>>739472647I did not, in fact, buy that anyway. Nintendo hasn't had a single original idea in the past 10 years
I think he’s cute.
>>739472593People being nostalgic for Gen 3 is hilarious to me, it was by far the most Jewish of any Pokemon generation.
>>739472913You must have been under a rock for Generation 6.
>>739472913I'd argue it's gen 6, when they introduced mega pokemon to shill pokemon they already had
>>739472935>>739472976I can't recall another generation that required you to purchase seven games and two consoles to complete the Pokedex
>>739473137That was genuinely due to hardware limitations. I will never forgive Gen 6 slapping a subscription fee on a mechanic 4&5 had for free
>>739473137every game since gen 4 could trade online.
>>739472129Wow you figured out the whole point of the holodeck meme
>>739472869which one
>>739473292Yeah, which is why I'm shitting on Gen 3 dumdum
>>739463486>>Hello. This is Fox. Thank you for reaching Nintendo. How may I assist your call?umm Mr. Fox why doesn't nintendo have achievements ? I mean Steam,Sony,Xbox, Epic games even GOG has them. Get with the times old man.
>>739473958Well Mr PooPoo Star Fox (2026) does have achievements
>>739467006I legit would have preferred they used real puppets than whatever the fuck we got. this looks better
>>739463486I had no interest in the Switch 2 but this fucking guy sold me one
>>739463486>Hello is this Nintendo >I want a number nine large no scratch that supersize me
Why didn’t Pepper just rape Andross?
>>739473346the fox (mammal), birds are unisex
>>739472129it's chatGPT
these threads make me not want to try out the game
>>739472383>STOP HAVING FUN CONSOLE WARS ARE FUCKING SERIOUS SHIT Lighten up.
>>739465817pic related?>make way for Kat!
>>739465817that was the threads before the reveal, as well, but shitposting on how much the furfags wanted to fuck the cast
>>739474335>this looks betterthat IS the game
>arrives>"I'm going to make love to your woman, and make her my woman.">doesn't elaborate>leavesWhat was his fucking problem?
So... Han Solo but a catgirl?
>>739484250Looks like she has a preference for human men.
>>739463486I've never played a Starfox game, but watched the new Mario movie 2 days ago. Is he a cunt in his games too? Also, I thought "do a barrel a roll" was an ancient 4chan meme, the fuck's up with that??
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>>739485375It's a meme that broke containment.Basically:Play SF1 and SF64.Read the Wikis of the other games if you care about the lore.Starfox is a franchise where what people love is what they want the franchise to be. And I say this like a heartbroken lover.
>>739463486FOXSEX
>>739472172Series is objectively better off without krystal
>>739485442lot lizard katt is growing on me
>>739485610careful, you will summon them
>>739465817Anon, Star Fox discourse has been nothing but wailing, teeth gnashing and furries for over 20 years now. Adding shitposts on top doesn't change much.
>>739469090>loadouts>matchmaking>levelsyeah don't put fans in charge of this series, jesus that's grim
>>739472840If you take wii u ports, remakes and remasters out of the equation the switch pretty much had no games, and half the ones that weren't either of that were shit like SwSh and SV or glorified ports like mario maker 2, splatoon 2 and ultimate.
>>739485610The franchise? No.Star Fox? Yes?
>>739486061This is never happening. She's a retired character.
>>739485640fungus often does
>>739483104typical f*line
>still only 60 results for star_fox_(2026) on e6DOA
The shitposting from /v/ about it took more effort than the remake itself to make
>>739486061The last thread and that comic actually kinda sold me on SW Krystal.
>>739465817If you try to start the thread with krystal mods will just delete it and ban you so yeah.
We have Falco at home
>>739467006>he thinks there are white people on this site.Nah, I see the English people are working with. Only deportation candidates lurk this place.
Krystal works better as a SF1 and SF64 character, with a backstory closer to those games' tone, than the whimsy mascot tone of Adventure, Assault, etc.This is true of the entire franchise. The thing that actually holds Starfox back as a property is that it's a Nintendo franchise.
>>739487239Nothing whimsy about assault
How did we go from this…
..to this in just one month?
>>739487436Did people actually like this pixar ass design?
>>739487239Krystal works my dick.
>>739483104What did he do to warrant twice the bounty of Leon?
>>739487239You are either attempting to shitpost or have no idea what you're talking about
>>739487497Only furries did, hence the>ewww the new design is so fat I can't fuck this!!reaction
>>739486595No one cared about the comic. It's silly fanfiction anyways
>>739487497Did someone say Pixar ass?
>>739487537Rape, everyone knows it's worse than murder
>>739463486honestly i think redesigns look fine, aside from the legs being a little goofy. but the game just being a graphically updated port of 64 kills it for me. at least give us some new levels.
>>739487537>Panther bounty: S$500>Panther sends a DM to Krystal>Panther bounty: S$2000Seriously though, he probably slept with the daughter of some general or politician and they're seething about having to hear her say "but daddy I love him."
I just think the legs beneath the knee are just too short. Makes them look like those weird midget people from BotW/TotK with wonky proportions.
>>739487774Look like "Toon Link but he realistic".
>>739487497>do people like the happy fox dude with kissable lipsYes, most people with functional eyes do.
>>739486061The worst part about Krystal is that she's Krystal.Still want a Star Wolf chick though.
>>739487608>It's silly fanfiction anywaysMathematically 50% of original titles in the franchise are basically "silly fanfiction" now.
Fox McLard is the only good thing to come from this.
>>739488048That makes no sense
new meme idea: Saarfox (indian starfox)
>>739488176>Can't let you redeem that, Saar Fox.
>>739486120>>739484250They did my girl dirty.
>>739488876What does this have to do with the best handheld ever?
>>739488176Indian people despise all animals apart from cows.
>he got bannedYet I stand triumphant and undefeated.(in before I get banned next)
>>739487239Krystal doesn't work period
>>739487497Yes, it was far superior to the one in the new remake. Somehow fucking illumination got The design for Fox right while Nu-tendo fumbled it. His movie btw
>>739488257liar, no one cared about her until now
>>739487852lewd
>>739489546>I forgot to erase the edge so if you expand the image you can see what I didn't make transparentFuck!
>>739463486>we only listen to complaints from literal childrenI noticed.
>>739463486>please stop getting horny for our fox character>>739489471>>739487625>>739487436>yeah we made him smooth as fuck go nuts :)
>>739489645>>739489250Kursed spinoff game where I rescue her and teach her the true meaning of hmofa.
>>739489954>just watch porn
>>739463486Still buying his game
>>739490081Dont mind if i do.
>>739463486Yikes, give up on comedy kid
>>739490081>just watch pornNever easier thanks to this inspiring artists to draw ever more of it
>>739490139>sharpclawAbsolutely disgusting.
>>739490279Isn't sharkclaws the thing Krystal is paired the most with in fanart?
>>739490279Fox men AND women are made for big lizard cock, stay seethimg mammal boy
>>739490139that really is a pretty dang good 3d model for a fan-made thing
>>739487485super cute.
Star Fox but it's an Ace Combat game (Star Fox show up once in an early mission, hired to save the area from overwhelming forces and have unique lines if you've managed to shoot down a lot or all of the enemies before you get there).
>>739489954>>739490081not even a porn thing, he just looks more aesthetically pleasing.
>>739472172She would not look this good in the new style. Katt looks like a crack whore.
does anyone else find the op joke really funny?
>>739491504no
>>739486120This is the only fan art of nu katt that doesn't intentionally try to pretty her up.
>>739491452>They get more annoyed the more enemies you kill as it means less of a paycheck for them.
>>739491504It feels too forced so no. I also have a pet and know what fluff and fat looks like and that isnt fat.
>>739487608I cared. Kursed is cute.
>no new Krystal tiddies ever
>>739491723You posted it.
>>739490974It's only acceptable if they rape her.
>>739491723I'd rather Krystal to be the star fox equivalent of Xavier Renegade Angel.
The only thing this announcement really did for me is inspire me to download the PC port and finally get the all the medals in every stage.>my reaction seeing Fox dawn his father's shades for the first timeThat being said, unless you are braindead retarded I don't see how anyone with any real interest in this game wouldn't just play it for free. Cutscenes will be up on youtube day 1 and I'm not sure they will add positively to the game.
>>739493298verses online playability
>>739493560That shit will get old in an hour. Especially there is only one map per mode.
>>739467006Why specifically white? Aren't there other race furries in the furry fandom?
>>739472129Wow, I wouldn't have known if you didn't point it out. Congrats on ruining the meme/joke.
>>739470486ok well you're an idiot
>>739493719i remember only enjoying the game verses friends.same with goldeneye, nobody cares much for single player, multiplayer was what made it fun
>>739492507Actually I posted it.>>739491723Agreed, luckily I'm only just not autistic enough to write a full fanfic of the arrangement.
>>739493298The main selling point of this game is the face rigging you can use on multiplayer Streamers are gonna make basedjack taxidermy faces for a week and move on
>>739494268Goldeneye I can understand, but the multiplayer in Star Fox 64 is a complete afterthought. The singleplayer is where all the meat is.
>>739465817We've had a few over the last couple days where the shitposters got tired and people were talking about character dynamics, lore, stages, games, etc.
Are the new designs still four feet tall? My favorite thing about Fox was that he is a tough cool fighter pilot but is 4’8” and 80 lbs, so can just bearhug him and princess carry him around and he’d be helpless to stop me.
>there's unironic krystal/panther shippers and kursed defenders
>>739465817It already ruined DK discourse despite Bananza being a good game, now add remake discourse and Nintendo unable to do anything other than SF64 over and over discourse with a little Krystal cooming shitposting sprinkling on top and you have a ruined franchise
>>739494807They all have sex with men???
>>739494887I don't understand the issue for DK, he went from looking like a cartoon monkey to looking like a cartoon money. There's actually a reason to complain in the case of Star Fox.
>>739494843>Kursed defendersMe, but only in the sense that1. It's a bad ending, retard.2. It's supposed to be Krazoa, which is still goofy and edgy, but not full retard.3. It's Krystal's analog to Falco, Slippy and Fox's bad ends, where each of them lose their way and isolate themselves because they acted out of character, exaggerating the OoC behavior the player committed to.
>>739494970>There's actually a reason to complain in the case of Star Fox.Is there? The Command designs suck ass and I'm glad we moved away from them.
>>739494887The Krystal discourse over the last few threads haven't been coom at all.
>>739495038We moved away from them with Star Fox Zero, which looks amazing and was only sabotaged by the console it was on.
>>739494887These threads are goldmine for genuine gameplay discussion compared to most of the catalog, and that's even including the ones that start off as bait, which not every thread does. Compare that to the REposting fad we had where it was obvious people just wanted to post girls and have flamewars over which games people liked.
>>739495109The Zero designs are just the Command designs with a fur texture. They still have those terrible heads.
>>739495225The head shape isn't the issue with Command, its the fact they look like they are made of plastic
>>739495068Hearing what different people want from the character has been really cool. There's a lot of options, but it feels like most people agree she needs to kick ass and -- if she's going to be pivotal to the narrative -- how she clashes with the 64 cast needs to be emphasized.
>>739465038May I see them?
>>739495342The weird, overly geometric, unemotive, 50 yard stare heads and faces were really bad. They look more artificial and sterile than even the SNES and 64 designs. They're terrible for emoting or viewing from dynamic camera angles. Sakurai tried his best with Smash to spruce it up, but these designs suck.
>>739495449>krystal ahead of falcolol
>>739487436>>739487485He hit 30 and has his winter coat now
>>739495174Genuine gameplay discussion? The game's not out
>>739495342actually the head shape from command is an issue, it's where Fox's bell shaped head became a very prominent part of his character going forward and it sucks so much. The characters looking like plastic was just a minor issue by comparison considering it was only command that did that
>>739488218He's hot.
>>739495524I mean she and Fox are basically the main characters of the story. Makes enough sense. Game really needed more oomph in its writing.>>739495449Like, fucking look at James and Pigma in Zero. Absolutely awful simplification of already simple designs to the point that they look bizarre.
>>739465817Far better and more organic than the Wokey Kong threads last year.
The NTR was bad enough, now you niggers are gonna bring in a whole bunch of bara fatfags. Was the macro not enough for you?
>>73949573664's design is simple, but it's much more intentional. The black void is to convey a protruding brow and sunken in eyes with as few polygons as possible. It's a very intentional abstraction meant to be seen from just one angle. That's why Assault gave him a more defined brow and turned his eyes into more distinct objects. Command goes back to an even more exaggerated version of the 64 look to convey he's an abstract form now that he's the Aparoid/Borg hivemind. Zero using that while also going much higher fidelity looks like shit.You can take what I'm saying about Pigma and apply it to nearly everyone. We've been stuck with the Command/Zero art style for 20 years and it looked like shit even in 2006.
>>739495524I mean they did dedicate the game to her (as in getting rid of her).
>>739495941Post Krystal growth pics NOW
>>739494807>FoxThe wagie. Always on the register. Taking orders. Cleaning the grills. Used to be famous or so he keeps saying.>FalcoHis supervisor. Always giving Fox a hard time. Just friendly banter (but not really) Ends up dipping out back when his girl Katt shows up.>PeppyThe manager. Usually asleep in his office. Sometimes tries to help out but mostly just messes everything up because he's an old fart 1 year from a retirement home. >SlippyJanny. Not actually employed by the company. Cleans and fixes stuff. No staff discount. No free meals. Not even sure why he stands around all day as he can only clean the kitchen after closing.
>>739491860e621
>>739471393He's literally me
>>739495357I think there's a massive gulf in the fandom between people who want more arcade shooting and people who want more space opera (with a slice of straight up interpersonal drama). Each side is okay with a bit of the other, but their desires for how much of each would be in "a perfect Starfox" game is massively out of kilter. It doesn't help that each of those sides can't agree on what characters should take focus, or even what that focus looks like.I think this is because the fandom is basically now a "fandom-fandom" because of how little content is actually delivered, meaning everyone isolates themselves and a feedback look kicks in.
>>739496370WrongThere are retards who don't play the games called "64fags" who want endless remakes of the game they already ownThen there are people with functional brains who know there is no market for a $70 2 hour game from the 90s and that there is so much more you can do with a sci-fi setting given the dozens of popular sci fi sim games like eliteD/X4/scamcitizen/the free space star fox mod
>>739465817You expect me to discuss fucking Star Fox 64 AGAIN?
>>739495549The game has been out nearly 30 years
>>739496370We wouldn't be in this situation if Nintendo treated Star Fox the same way they treated all their other franchises. Why in the world would they think slapping Star Fox onto Dinosaur Planet was okay?
>>739497082It’s why the theory of “Nintendo was afraid of RareWare overshadowing them” held so much weight
>>739463486All I see is spam of the cutscene where the light from the map below him removes the shadow from his jaw.He looks fine when the lighting is natural/comes from above.
>>739496614I don't think you're being fair. Yeah, there's people who look at Starfox 64 the way a lot of people look at the Golden Age arc of Berserk.I think you're right about the cost issue, and I'm not really sure if there's a way around it other than having a far smaller cost (something like $20), and less in it outside of the shooting.The issue with talking about games like Elite Dangerous and such is that you then run into another issue: that this is a Nintendo franchise.If I was given creative control over Star Fox I'd do what they did with Halo, where you had novels about the world for people who want that aspect, but keep the games as mostly simple parts of the larger story. It's not like it'd be all that hard to even make the "story half" of the franchise be a visual novel. There's countless furry artists and writers who would give their right arm to make an official Starfox visual novel.But that's another issue: the fandom has a large crossover with the furry fandom, and this is another issue with this being a Nintendo property. They've constantly got to distance themselves from probably 60% of the fans and 90% of the automatic-buy audience.Nintendo have to not just meet the fandom where it is, but also where the actual franchise itself is. Starfox is not Mario, nor is it even Zelda in its darker moments. I suppose we can thank Argonaut being Bongs who grew up with 8bit micro computers and Elite and Mercenary for that.
>>739495582This is the biggest reason why I like the new design. I was sick of the bell head. Even the Super Mario Galaxy movie had the bell head.The new design is a breath of fresh air.
>>739497082The Dinosaur Planet thing was really actually just because Miyamoto had already wanted Imamura to instead make an action adventure Star Fox game within Kyoto, it just wasn't going anywhere because it was super late in the N64's lifespan and the staff were being pulled away to work on bigger stuff like Mario and Zelda for GCN. That's when Shigs noticed that Rare was making their own action adventure game with a SF looking character and I guess that was enough to get him to convince Rare to merge both of their projects into what we know today.
>>739472387Is there anything cringier than a corporation acknowledging memes?
Their Melee looks are so fucking good
>>739497315What the fuck are you talking about, the bell head is still there.
>>739497292The fuck are you rambling about? They gave the series to namcos ace combat studio with assault and due to internal pissing match between namco and miyamoto they never got to make a sequel.That's entirely nintendo and Japanese cultures problem. Miyamoto physically cannot make a flight sim. He is a out of touch boomer fucktard not interested in space fighters. He likes fucking pikmin. You could literally give the series back to bamco, get them to shit out and ace combat reskin and it would be golden
>>739472140tbf pretty much every character in the mario movies are either flanderized or ooc, so Fox being a fusion between han solo and nick wilde instead of his usually canon game self doesn't feel as weird as it should.
>>739497319>>739497149>>739497082This is without even getting into the issue with them just using Starfox to test gimmicks, which is happening again with the face cam stuff.It's like they're resentful of the entire franchise for some reason. But I agree. Rare didn't die. They were killed.
>>739494987>2. It's supposed to be Krazoa, which is still goofy and edgy, but not full retard.Doesn’t matter what her original name was, it was a stupid ending because Krystal had no actual relationship to the Krazoa except for the short-lived investigation of a distress signal. Why would she base her whole identity on a foreign planet’s mythology that directly resulted in her capture?
>>739496370I'm good with whatever as long as it's fun. My point was just that it seems most people agree Krystal should be cool more than she should be arm candy, and that people who want more of her seem to be in agreement that what we got before was too shallow.
>>739497942Same reason she was wearing tribal clothes, wielding a magic staff, spoke Saurian, had her personal level in Assault take place on Sauria, and named her ship The Cloudrunner. As far as anyone who didn't read the English SFA manual or a wiki is concerned (and didn't pay attention to the hastily slapped together intro text), she may as well be from Sauria.Also it's where she met Fox and her life took this path. And it's the name of a protector deity. And it's what flowed through her when she was trapped.It's goofy but it makes sense for what that ending is: a Krystal who keeps turning inward and rejecting moving forward/forgiving.
>>739497403Fox looks fine in Melee but I think Falco looks kind of weird. Falco's Brawl design, on the other hand, is one of the coolest birds I ever did see and is really how he always should have looked.
>>739497942> most people agree Krystal should be cool more than she should be arm candyExactly. The issue is that this was how she was constantly portrayed, as just "the girl" or "Fox's girlfriend", which is then turned around and used as evidence against her.If a character "doesn't have much going for them" that's not on the character. It's the fault of the writer if a character is dull, or shallow, not the character itself.A young woman who was stranded on a hostile jungle planet and who survived the hostile fauna and the hunting of sharpclaws should not be a boring character. And if she is that's the writer's fault. This is without even touching the mystical aspect.The last thread demonstrated that there's lots you can do with her character while not going right back to the start and scrapping everything.I think the "she's just a blue coom fox" is a bad argument as well, because that's not the character's fault.
>>739495068>>739495357>>739496370>>739498015>>739498802I feel like the saddest thing one can say is that the best it ever got for a blue fox character with the name "Krystal" was an N64 game that never even properly came out. I know I just should be thankful that it leaked, that it has a small but dedicated fanbase making patches and also decomps/recomps to finish it up, and I know I should also be thankful for all of the various fan stuff like Event Horizon that tries to flesh out Krystal as a Star Fox character, but I still can't help but feel sad that Krystal's official reputation as a character remains just "that one blue furry coom fox that got rebooted twice over out of the series she was shoehorned into."
>>739496614What caused you to seethe so much to type all that kek.
>>739497756Assault was worked by the people that did klonoa. It ace combat. Namco around that time was also a shitshow and was probably not thr best choice to work on a star fox game for GameCube.
this text is on the arwingsit alludes to a Nintendo Power player's guide to Star Fox 64, and October 1997 was the Euro launch for the original gameIs it being developed by a western studio?
>>739498802>I think the "she's just a blue coom fox" is a bad argument as well, because that's not the character's fault.That's literally why Krystal exists at all. Rare were willing to scrap her entirely but miyamoto and Imamura got horny for her and decided to keep her in but get redesigned based on vampirella. I would agree with you in most other cases but for Krystal she is the actual blue fox coombait character. There's nothing else really to her that's is consistent.
>>739499042Yeah. It's sad because it feels like a sabotaged character, which I think is what makes so many people want better for her. There's an almost underdog, survivor, nature to her. >>739499878Still not the character's fault. Besides, lots of characters were treated badly until a particular creator came along and changed everything around for them overnight.All she needs is someone to look at her the way Alan Moore looked at Swamp Thing, which is kind of what I'm trying to do in my own autistic way.
>>739500028I don't get why you have so much investment in Krystal. It would be a lot easier and with less hassle to just create a brand new character with a clean slate. Krystal as a concept was a dud for the series and the stigma she brings to the series as a being known as a porn character first before a videogame character will bring negative views on the series. She is best off being retired and having the furfags do whatever with her.
>>739499850>Is it being developed by a western studio?The way Katt looks didn't clue you in on that?
>never played a star fox and this looks like a legit opportunity to try a new one>apparently this game is clowned heavy for being like the 5th remake of N64Part of me understands the frustration if you’re a long time fan, but in this instance, I’m a newcomer where this looks unironically fine to me.
>>739500236If you have any real interest in playing Star Fox 64 its literally free and runs natively on PC
>>739500236True. We aren't the core audience Nintendo is targeting with the new game.
Krystal is black (like the Gross Sisters)
>>739494887>despite Bananza being a good gamemaybe if you are a malformed fetus
>>739500495anon its a game for children
>>739491504The supersize one was funnier
>>739500236The ROM is 10MB and you can download it right now.>>739500401> We aren't the core audience Nintendo is targeting with the new game.And who is this, exactly? Yet another reboot is that means that it's bringing people just to have them blueballed? "Bringing people in" is only worth anything if there's something to bring them in to.
>>739500028>Still not the character's fault.This isnt an argument. They aren't living things or even have sentience. It isnt her fault but she is the embodiment of the fault of everyone that has worked on her to make her who she is. Everyone else like fans are essentially making false versions of who she actually is.
>>739500641>Yet another reboot is that means that it's bringing people just to have them blueballedLiterally that dipshit. We have to wait until it comes out before we know they get blueballed. Until then you just sound salty the game even exists.
>>739500205>I don't get why you have so much investment in Krystal.I don't know either. I've always been oddly drawn to lost causes and unfinished stories. Another obsession is the 2001 Hellsing series that ends on a cliffhanger, and Firefly.I guess a part of me just can't accept dead ends.
>>739500787>Until then you just sound salty the game even exists.The game has been existing for 29 fucking years, and we still haven't meaningfully moved past it.
>>739499850Forever Entertainment is my guess, shitty remakes that completely misunderstand the aesthetics of the originals are their bread and butter, AND they already worked with nintendo on the DKCR remaster which nintendo thought was good enough to concide with the theme park despite having a bug that completely destroyed co-op not to mention the downgraded visuals from the Wii version.
>>739496082Fine
>>739500787>Until then you just sound salty the game even exists.The game already exists, and then existed again, and now exists yet again. I'm not buying the same game a third time. Fuck off. So yes, you're damn right I'm salty.>hurr you have to buy this if you want moreThey say that every time and there's always an excuse. Not to mention that whenever anyone says this (Remember people saying we all have to buy Chrono Trigger on the DS if we want more Chrono Trigger?) there's never any inclination that such a promise was made nor any guarantee it'll be upheld. It's just preying on the desperation of long time fans.
star fox is just space NSMBthe sooner you accept this the sooner you can move on
>>739501026at least the update to DK HD this last winter fixed pretty much all of that
>>739501089That's fine. You're not forced to buy or play anything. The game isnt meant for you.
>>739501193Who is it meant for then?And don't say "people who want to get into Star Fox" because there's not enough Star Fox to need to clear the decks and give people an easy on-ramp, nor does it need some arcane knowledge to play right now.
>>739501193>You're not forced to buyOkay we wont.>One year later: "We're never getting more Star Fox because you didn't buy Star Fox Endless Eight."
Besides all the other issues, my biggest gripe is that there doesn't seem to be any interesting gameplay additions besides challenges. No new power-ups, no new moves to do in the arwing, nothing. Even something like a different type of bomb to use would go a long way.
>>739501418Agreed, I get that this probably didn't have a big budget, but if they're going to resell 64 yet again, they could've done a lot to make it more enticing. If challenge mode is the only new single player content, people will get tired of this game quick.
>>739501382>Fox-kun, denwa!
>>739501587The most frustrating thing about Star Fox as a series is that, at least in my view, it has never gotten an earnest attempt at a continuation by Nintendo themselves. They always either pawn off a sequel to a C-list developer for cheap or just remake 64. The mismanagement began immediately after 64. The only reason Star Fox isn't a bigger series is because it had all its momentum stopped.
>>739502042It's why I never believe the "star fox is miyamotos pet series!" shit. You don't treat a franchise you actually love the way Nintendo has treated star fox. Either outsourcing everything to third party studios, or just using it to peddle some new hardware gimmick.
>>739501418>you can boost>you can brake>you can EVEN do somersaultsGrating female voice in that direct talking like basic moves from 30 years ago are a selling point.
>>739502042I'd argue Command was an earnest attempt at a continuation of 64, at least from a narrative perspective. Yes technically the game was still kinda outsourced to Q-Games but the actual overall production of the game was handeled by Nintendo who clearly had much more creative control over it than they did with the GCN games, for example the game's narrative and character stuff was handeled by the guy who created the universe to begin with, Takaya Imamura.
>>739489492I did. I remember others saying she's annoying though.
>>739502505to be fair, what else are you gonna market this game on? It's a remake of a 29 year old game
The fact that even a superfan like Chasen Lindsey is like "nah, fuck this" about this game shows how poorly received this is.It's basically:40% SF64 fatigue30% lol he fat and/or lol she ugly20% coping about maybe if we all buy this we'll get a new game honest no10% people who might have bought getting pulled between the fan response.And if this lack of support from fans kills Starfox, then fuck it.
My past-his-prime loser husbandHe looks like he would post in these threads
>>739501026But are they big enough to have been working on a Star Fox 2026 and the DKCR remaster? I can see them being a support studio for Nintendo internally maybe.
>>739502621I'm honestly alright with Star Fox being dead. It's felt dead for like twenty years already, what difference does forever make.
>>739502284If he loved Star Fox as much as this cope implied we'd have gotten a Legend of the Galactic Heroes style series set in the universe.
>>739502806It'll probably be better for the fandom, in a cruel way. Like looking to the horizon for the return of a loved from from a journey, how long to do stand waiting?Instead of all this waiting then there'd be a sense of "well, now it's up to us" from a lot of the fandom, at least that what I think.
>>739502701Krystal stop being mean.
>>739502701stop it. fox doesn't deserve to get JUSTed
>>739501026What destroyed co-op?
>>739501297>Who is it meant for then?Not that anon, but I think its pretty obvious that Nintendo it wanting to just wipe the Star Fox slate completely clean and give it a true, new beginning.It is meant to be an onboarding point for a new generation of Star Fox fans, starting the story from the very beginning and re-defining Star Fox.Star Fox 64 is a timeless classic, yeah, but try telling a kid "No you can't get the new game because it is a remake of this game from 30 years ago, play it instead."TL;DR - Little kids who saw the Super Mario Galaxy movie and zoomers who never played the original.
>>739502837imagine if Starlink had been fully a Star Fox game without all the other uninspired crap ubisoft characters
But why didn't Nintendo just make a completely new game with a low barrier to entry, to appeal to both new AND old fans?Say what you will about Breath of the Wild, but there's no doubt the game wasn't an enormous critical and financial success. Was it so hard to make a BOTW-esque Star Fox reimagining that isn't the same tired Lylat wars?
>>739502621>Chasen LindseyHis problem is that he's been making his own Star Fox game with HIS version of the characters, story, etc.It really does not matter what the new Star Fox game would have been. It would have been different from HIS creation and would have hated it.Plus his real fixation is with Krystal more than Star Fox as a whole. He's making the game on his own, yes gives half his income to Estelle Ellis.Meanwhile Estelle Ellis cannot even get her lines in on time. Jock Blaney got all his lines done quickly and for free like a chad.
>>739463486I hate that people keep using the "but they look like the puppets so it's good" excuse. 1. I'd argue the 64 models were more like the puppets because of how their mouths moved when they came over the comms2. Just because they take inspiration from the puppets doesn't change the fact that they're still ugly. Except for Peppy, he looks fine.
>>739502621>20% coping about maybe if we all buy this we'll get a new gameDid people say this about zero as well? I think Nintendo is content with just having this be a gimmick franchise at this point, regardless of sales.After this announcement I have come to terms with this series.
>>739503301*was a success.Whatever. I'm tired, nu-tendo sucks. I want funny cartoony games and they're the only AAA dev that makes them, this timeline sucks.
>>739503301This is my approach. They could have easily made a totally new story from the start. Fans would have seen the update that this is a new universe and would know to ignore previous canon, and the new players would just take it as it comes.
>>739503362I think it's funny that the one thing people like from zero were the updated designs, so they just tossed those out into the trash.The real reason the new models look so realistic is for the face tracking gimmick to not look jarring. It has nothing to do with looking like the puppets or whatever else people say.
>>739503301Like create a completely new game with a completely new story that is totally removed from the Lylat System, or at least the original story, entirely?It works better for Zelda because the Zelda timeline, while existent, is really a non-factor. There really is not a continuous story with those games aside from BotW into TotK.Meanwhile I think Nintendo is wanting to make Star Fox into their more story-focused IP. It makes sense, to me anyways, to not just throw out the origin story entirely.Plus apparently the next game will be something big and original. This reboot game is the appetizer.
>>739503723>The real reason the new models look so realistic is for the face tracking gimmick to not look jarring.I highly doubt they defined the entire game's art style just for the camera avatar gimmick.I think, more likely, the art style was chosen from the get-go to stand out and they used the avatar tech for all the cutscenes and comms windows.Then they were like "wait what if the players could do this too?" and here we are.
>>739503402More importantly, Nintendo themselves said it about Star Fox 643D, that the series will continue if people bought the game, and they decided to follow it up with a 64 "reimagining" instead of a proper sequel. >>739503723>The real reason the new models look so realistic is for the face tracking gimmick to not look jarring.I don't think that's true though. Most V-tubers use very stylized characters
>>739503871>I highly doubt they defined the entire game's art style just for the camera avatar gimmick.You should look up more of Nintendo's history before you say that.
>>739503732>I think Nintendo is wanting to make Star Fox into their more story-focused IP. It makes sense, to me anyways, to not just throw out the origin story entirely.This is cope.There's nothing that implies this while there's lots that implies yet another gimmick test.There's no reason, in the age of wikis and story summary videos on youtube, to tell the same old story again and again.It's like capeshit where every 10 years we have to watch Batman's parents get shot or whatever.
>>739503402Apparently Star Fox 64 3D was the deciding factor on if Star Fox would continue at all.It sold well enough to warrant future use of the IP.Unfortunately, Miyamoto wanted to make a game designed around the GamePad and chose Star Fox.Which did a devastating blow to the series. Command did very poorly, SF643D did okay, then Zero did even more poorly.Star Fox has a tendency to get back up after a big blow, but I am uncertain that it can do so twice.So yeah, I hope that this game exceeds Nintendo's sales goals and fully revives Star Fox.The production value with this game paired with the Mario movie role makes me think Nintendo really does want to try to revive Star Fox.And fortunately the new game looks pretty good IMO, so hopefully they pull it off.
>>739503301>>739503402You can’t just jump head-first into making a new game for a dead series without testing to see if the audience is present. You do something simple and easy like a remake>already have a template, just copy it with some new additions>easy hook for old fans as it’s the game they know and love prettied up>easy hook for new fans since it’s that revered game they’ve heard about many times before (now modernized without the jank), also familiarizes them with the seriesOnly after if it sells well and proves there’s an audience do you go in with a new entry. Problem is, the last several times they’ve all been flops, telling nintendo that there is no audience, and thus no reason to make a new game when no one will be interestedSame reason why I don’t buy the rumor that we’re getting a new adventure game. It would be a disaster if they went on to make a big-budget entry with all hands on deck when history has proven no one cares about SF. The new game would be them testing the waters and only if that sold well would they try investing into it>but DKBPlays so wholly different from the DKC games that it may as well be its own thing. Also people know and love DK
>>739503871Star fox has been the go to series for their new hardware gimmicks since zero. It makes perfect sense to me that Nintendo needed a franchise to sell the new face tracking thing with, so they dug out star fox again. The designs being influenced by the tech make more sense than the opposite, considering how much time they spent on the reveal talking about it.I find it very hard to believe they just 'stumbled' onto the reveal like some sort of accident, that's not the kind of company Nintendo is.
>>739504073>There's nothing that implies thisI mean they put a pretty big spotlight on all the cutscenes in the Direct. The end sequence was the full prologue cutscene. Like the cinematics are looking to be a driving force behind their marketing.
>>739504092>The production valueDude, there's indie horror games that look like this now. "Production value" doesn't mean what it used to.How long is this cycle going to continue where they promise a new game if we give them money, then intentionally (this is a pattern of behavior at this point) spit in our faces before putting their hand out again?
>>739503058It didn't register hitboxes properly like the original, in co-op some levels required both players to jump in sync to get over hurdles and the messed up hitboxes meant player 2 couldn't execute those jumps.
>>739503732How is it a Star Fox game if it isn't about Star Fox anymore? Might as well just make a new series at that point.
>>739463486snoy poojeet hands wrote this
>>739504097It's not our fault it's dead. We gave them our money over and over again.>and thus no reason to make a new game when no one will be interestedMaybe don't half ass it and drag it down with gimmick shit?
>>739495437fun fact: it's way more than the PS5https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch_2-only_games
It's funny they are putting all this extra effort into rewriting 64 for this remake, because no matter what they come up with, it's not going to be anywhere near as iconic as the original. All those lines from 64 are permanently burned into gaming culture. It's a lost cause from the start
>>739503118>TL;DR - Little kids who saw the Super Mario Galaxy movie and zoomers who never played the original.The problem is that the people coming from the mario galaxy movie that thought fox looked cool are going to expect him to look the part in the games. When they see Star Fox 2026 Fox, they'll think 'what fhe fuck? He looks weird.'
>>739504582The issue as well is that anyone wanting to "get into" Starfox over the last three decades has played it as well. You're basically hoping that there's some latent customer base waiting in the mists, but there's no reason to suppose that is, especially when it's so fucking different to the output that everyone would have been brought in by.>b-b-but the movie only came out this yearThe script and designs would have been visible to Nintendo for years.>>739504792Or "why's everything so dark and serious and not cool pew pew space man?"
>>739501138>assault and adventures fags are just TTYDfags
>>739502806>"forever"Not really, until it hits the public domain at worst, too bad most of us won't be alive to see it, imagine the kino people will be freely making with this franchise 70 years from now
>>739466067lol
>>739466238lol
>>739505705At this point I think I'll just go full furfag and make a legally distinct equivalent.
>>739501382Good!
>>739502621At least we still have the Illumination movie, if it does well and the game does poorly nintendo might finally pull their head out of their ass and realize the problem isn't the franchise but rather how they handle the games
>>739465817Ehh, wait until the game comes out. Once people actually get their hands on the game and see more of the characters outside of that one angle with the map shining upward, most of the art direction talk will die down. I'm really interested in if they make any story deviations. Like if they have a post-game cutscene that sets up the next game, or if they show off any new content in the next Nintendo Direct before launch.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/18rek3h/just_throwing_out_a_translation_of_this_old/>I suppose it would be that Fox and the team have aged. This time around the story is set 8 years in the future. Characters like Mario and Bowser never age, but I feel that Fox needs to change in various ways over time. Maybe 10 years from now, we'll have the same face we've always known, but the character is actually Fox's son.Sometimes it feels like Takaya Imamura, for all of his faults, was kinda like the one dude at Nintendo who kinda cared about Star Fox having anything evoking a evolving narrative. Problem is, he also seemed fairly content to walk away from it with Command, barring potential prequels and interquels set within the gaps of the timeline.https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/1151lkd/nintendo_dream_republishes_some_of_their_old_star/>But really, part of me does want to end Fox's part of the story with "Command." So, going forward, if we made a sequel it might be set between "64" and "Adventures," or maybe even a prequel to "64." With "Command," there's no "this is it, it's over" moment, which I think makes for a better video game experience. I've always noticed that Command was the last time Imamura was credited as a producer for a Star Fox game, he'd still be involved with the series until his departure from Nintendo in 2021 but he's only listed as a "supervisor".
>>739502042Missing the Wii was the deathkneel, command might have been shit but the franchise was still salvageable, a strong Wii entry would have done wonders.
>>739505920>nintendo might finally pull their head out of their ass
>just buy my rehash, you sheep. Buy it now!>or I will hold your series hostage for 10 more years.>ohh, but hold on... I'm the only one at Nintendo that cares about this series and close to retirement age?>oh well. Tough luck, fags! :)I am convinced at this point, star fox is the most cursed nintendo series ever. Just slightly beating out chibi-robo, but barely.
>>739506030"Lack of ideas" according to Shigster.https://purenintendo.com/miyamoto-talks-why-star-fox-never-landed-on-the-wii/
>>739506071Forgot pic related.
>>739506097>lack of ideas for a military space operaWhat utter bullshit.
>>739505793There are a few of those already. Ex zodiac is the only one that interests me, but it's going to take 10 years to be finished at this rate.
>>739506030Wii was the perfect setup. The wiimote was used for a million shovelware railshooters that played okay, so an actual AAA one should have been enough of a gimmick to get Miyamoto off his ass.
>>739505042>all three are GameCube titlesHmmmm....
>>739503301>Krystal>You owe me sex>I got you out of that crystal>Now get out of your pants
>This retard posting comics by some mentally ill woman who clearly suffered a breakup and probably got tattoos afterwards and is now forcing her mentality onto a cartoon characterKrystalfags are so tiresome. This is why they should just drop her. Too many insane retards who all have different views on what she should be. Just throw her out and if they want female characters they can use the girls from 2 or just make new ones.
Since I finished 64, I decided to give Assault a try since I never played it before. First impressions, its okay. It's certainly not awful, matter of fact I would say I like it. However, there is immediate feeling that there is a lack of the "craftsmanship" that 64 had with Assault. It just "feels" worse to play, and straight up IS worse to play when it comes to the on foot sections, which are just enemy arenas without interesting level design or shooting mechanics to bolster them.
>>739506030The curse of Star Fox has always been at the wrong place at the wrong time. >Two releases on the GameCube, which was largely unsuccessful all things considered.>Missed out on the super successful Wii.>One release on the DS, but was a budget title that became super controversial.>One release on the 3DS pretty early on, but the 3DS did not have a super successful start.>One release on the Wii U failure, which came out at the very end of its life>Missed out on the super successful Switch 1.Fortunately, the Switch 2 seems to be doing well and Star Fox is releasing at the start of Year 2.Only timing issue is the economy. Living is not cheap and people are more selective with games.On the whole I to think this game will do well enough. 2mil, give or take a 100k.
>>739506580Assault is the bland flavor of the series. It doesn't have any strengths nor glaring issues that has it stand out either way. Mediocre is the best way to put it.
>>739506743Adventures was a success.
>>739503871>I highly doubt they defined the entire game's art style just for the camera avatar gimmick.they did. matching the player's lips is why fox's mouth moves as though it were pivoting on a single hingeonce again nintendo has ruined another star fox games for a stupid gimmicks
>>739506580If you played 64 you have played the best the series has to offer. Everything else is a significant step down. I like assault, but it's like a 6/10 game compared to a 10/10. Adventures is a meh zelda clone, and we don't talk about command.
>>739506854Command was good for what it was.
>>739506580Glad you're enjoying it. As for it "feeling worse" to play, it comes down to how they made the controls. The way Dylan Cuthbert put it (paraphrasing) is that Assault's controls were more "digital" wheras SF64 made controlling the Arwing feel much more "aerodynamic"I love Assault, but it definitely feels more "slow" than SF64. If they ever made a remaster/remake of it and sped up the gameplay + tweaked the controls, it'd be even better.The on-foot missions never bothered me, though they could have benefited from some more level variety for sure.
Play SF1 and SF64, then just invent some OCs and make your own stories. It took me a lot time to realize that these two games basically are Starfox.
>>739465817yeah cause literally nothing else changed except them
>>739506832I was referring to the GameCube not being a super successful console itself. Adventures sold decently well for the GameCube's smaller playerbase, but still fell like 3mil short of SF64.Call it cope, but the new game is probably Star Fox's best shot in a long while to come close to SF64's sales.Don't think it will, but it will probably hit the closest to it out of the post-SF64 games.
>>739506997Assault is the worst feeling shooter I've ever played. Even with the twin stick control option it feels too jank for my liking. I wish the multiplayer had better modes.
>>739506183Nah, the dev said 1.0 is probably coming this year
>>739506852Still doesn't explain the retarded legs and Falco's feather fingers
>>739506997>The way Dylan Cuthbert put it (paraphrasing) is that Assault's controls were more "digital" wheras SF64 made controlling the Arwing feel much more "aerodynamic"You definitely get that sense. The thing that impressed me the most with 64's controls was how they made the vehicles feel like they had weight while still being responsive. Assault controls well, but it lacks weight.
>>739507361I didn't like the sense of delayed input when controlling vehicles. It doesnt feel snappy or agile.
>>739506374Seethe.
>>739507152Good. I already boughted it after playing the demo back in the day, but was waiting for it to be done first.
>>739507514Hit the nail on the head huh.
>>739507514Cope. She had 2 decades to then her image around but she just got further solidified in being a fapbait character. If she ever does get announced for a star fox game Nintendo will soon regret it as krystaldags and furfags will not stop posting about her, mainly the NSFW stuff, and be a PR nightmare for Nintendo for people to take star fox as a kid oriented series.
>>739465038Why the Aislop ESRB rating in the bottom lefthand corner wtf. It takes like 2 minutes to do a nonshitty job of that in MSpaint
>>739507809Retard
>>739507895But enough about you, snoy.
Imagine being mindbroken by encountering a waifufag on 4chan of all places.
>>739471393>Hyperfat Fox with huge moobs>Areolas the size of teaplates, but normal sized teat>Needs a g-diffuser just to b able to waddle to the kitchen
>>739508090Being here for over 20 years of retards gooning for her helps with her negative perception
>>739487608Every piece of fiction is fanfiction, retard.
>>739508315Holy cope!
>>739506997Absolutely everyone agrees that assault has major problems, mainly the fact that foot sections are pretty bad in terms of control and design, due to the level being basically design for multiplayer. The story too short, the cutscenes it being longer and more diverse. It should have been a baseline to improve on every aspect.
>>739506374Krystal is too popular to ignore anymore.
Krystal won
>>739508648Assault is a good template of what not to do with star fox >>739508717>Krystal is too popular to ignore anymore.Yeah and for what reason exactly? It ain't the star fox games I can tell you that.
>>739508648And I love it anyways despite its flaws. Mostly because its flaws genuinely never bothered me.I do still believe Assault was a natural progression for the series and the direction they should have continued in.Maybe this second "adventure" kind of game will actually play out more like Assault did, but on a bigger scale.
>>739508876>Assault is a good template of what not to do with star foxexplain pls
>>739508926>I do still believe Assault was a natural progression for the series and the direction they should have continued in.If you truly think that then we're are all the games like assault outside star fox?
People hate Krystal because she shows the heterosexuality of multiple male characters.
>>739506743>Fortunately, the Switch 2 seems to be doing wellHardware wise yes, but not so much software. MTF and MP4 were huge flops that couldn’t get 1mil., and even KAR barely struggled to hit that and isn’t selling beyond thatCombined with this being a remake offering little in the way of new content and with some horrible designs, I can very well see it ending up a flop come August’s earning reports, with sales too low for it to even be counted. Not exactly the most appealing looking exclusive we got atm, especially with raiders coming the following month
>>739508876Why does it matter why is she popular ? I’ll tell you why, cuz she’s a great designed character. That’s why people who don’t like her cope by saying she doesn’t have enough character or doesn’t add something to the team. Because they can’t attack her on jer greatest asset : she was just made that good, especially in assault. So good that like you say, even people who don’t play the games know her.
>>739509016There are too many things to list but a brief list starting with the half assed campaign with bad levels, bad character potrayals, lack of replayability, a bad story with a villain that is inconsistent with threats and lacks charisma. For multiplayer it lacks simple things like bots, variety of weapons, poorly designed stages especially for those with in foot and vehicles on it, and bad character balance. It also suffers from a lack of a proper tutorial and extras. The end result is a game worse than any other star fox and multiplayer shooter at the time.
>>739508926You should keep the idea of the apparoid corruption, the foot mission, the multiplayer, the alternative between rail shooter or free flying. But the shooting wasn’t good, you couldn’t aim, not enough guns, the levels were arena without good design, the cutscenes were good, but we needed more and not only briefing mission.
Fox and Slippy should kiss me thinks
>>739509265She's just Loona for 00s babbys.
>>739509075I must say its very sad to go through Fox McCloud art and you can't go a page without seeing him take dick in some form or fashion.How do you take somebody that looks like this and decide he is a bottom bitch
>>739509016The arwing controls like ass. Even in the original game, with the terrible framerate, the speed was emphasized. Assault slows things down so much that they had to slow the tempo of the music.
>>739509265>I’ll tell you why, cuz she’s a great designed characterShe looks pretty and that's it. She has nothing to her character that makes her worth bringing back. It also isnt hard to make new characters as pretty if not more so than Krystal. Just bring miyu and fay back for the switch 2 sequel. Two is better than one and they have more potential for the series.
>>739463486I just want to play Pokemon Colosseum but apparently Switch 1 can't play it? So fucking lame. My girlfriend gave me her Pikachu and Eevee Switch and I played it once.
>>739509472Not even that. Renamon, Rouge and Camilla came out around the same time and they are both sexy and good characters in their own right. Krystal has nothing but her looks ehich are mid by modern standards.
>>739508876>Yeah and for what reason exactly? It ain't the star fox games I can tell you that.Brother what games? We have had no new star fox games in two decades. Just 64 rehashes.This series is struggling to tread water, with or without the blue fox girl.
>>739509748Star fox 2 and guard aren't rehashes. The other characters also have actual personalities unlike Krystal.
That Krystal comic gave the entire Star Fox cast more development than they have had officially in 20 years, and that includes Fox who is in it for one panel at the end.
>>739509841Star fox 2 was made 3 decades ago, and guard is not a star fox game no more than mario galaxy is a star fox movie.
>>739509841One of those is literally 20 years old and the other is a throwaway spinoff
>>739509854Still isn't Canon and not the only fancomic of her out there by any means. She has a ton of different interpretations, a lot being a whore but a lot none the less
>>739509580For some reason, all of those shitting on Krystal end up pushing for miyu and fay. Krystal is like every star fox character, you won’t tell me that Leon or wolf are morde worked than her besides their mean mercenary look.
>>739510254>For some reason, all of those shitting on Krystal end up pushing for miyu and fay.For the ones that don't you just call them fags eho hate women. I'd like a brand new character instead.
>>739509997>One of those is literally 20 years oldSo is Krystal yes here people keep shilling for her and her games.
>>739510439You mean the official star fox games that actually had an updated gameplay ?
>>739509841And like every other character, Krystal including, that personality can be read on a post it note
>>739509717As someone who watched digimon, you’re delusional about renamon
>>739510486>updated gameplayYeah, sure! They were update just like betamax was for home video. They tried new stuff sure but those ended in failure and were not seen as being good enough to continue them in further games.
>>739510549Krystal has the least amount of stuff to her and also is the most inconsistent. The other main characters had a lot more appearances to flesh them out better as characters too.
>>739510439>her gamesAnon. Starfox adventures is literally the only game that has her as a focus She didn't do anything for assault and command is a meme
>>739510731Except Nintendo did took those ideas on the later game ? Free flying arwing for exemple
>>739510919Command counts and is her most prominent role in the series.
>>739510965>Free flying arwing for exempleWhat is that?
>>739510884Star fox assault don’t have characterization for anyone, except maybe wolf. Other than that like I said post it note. The other have more games and comics to work with, but even then, you can’t exactly call them super fleshed out. Krystal who came even later has less content
>>739511042Flying in arwing besides rail shooters
Command is the only came I'd want a remake of because I'm fascinated with how bullshit it is.It's like someone took a story with 100x the content and only give you fragments and said "lol lmao" when you asked what the hell it was.
Krystal sucks as a character and always will. She was never meant to be a starfox character in the first place and forcefully turning Dinosaur planet into a starfox game was a horrible decision
You would think they would have at least tried co-op with this reboot. Anything to make playing thru 64 feel refreshing
>>739511071What does Krystal even do? Assault said she's a telepath but what does that even do? In game she doesnt provide any more value in advice than the other characters. I'm not even sure what her talent is supposed to be since I assume I'd be hand to hand combat in adventures with the staff but that never plays a role. With characters like miyu and fay at least they have a brief backstory if being put on star fox by pepper for that game and then flying an interceptor type arwing imply they're very good pilots. To compare what is krystal's unique attributes to the game not just her skills but her dynamic with interacting with other people?
>>739511126>Flying in arwing besides rail shootersThat's been a thing since star fox 64. It was a thing before even that with star fox 2 where betas were shown to the public and leaked online years before those later star fox games came out.
>>739511136Based. Command also has the only gameplay worth revising too.
>>739511295The thing is, like I said, a telepathic character works better as an enemy because the most mind-affecting things you can do are almost always hostile to you as a player unless you want to go all the way to possession of enemies but that's too far in my opinion.
>>739511473I agree but most krystalfags won't accept her being a villain.
>>739511173Rare was never forced. They went along with it since turning the game into star fox would likely lead to better sales which was a really safe bet.
>>739509673You can emulate gamecube games if you mod it
>>739511615Plus in 2002 "A Rare-made Star Fox adventure game" was still seen as like putting peanut butter with chocolate.
>>739511554Luckily I'm not like most Krystalfags.
>>739511295As someone who was in the military and police. I could find a good dozen use for a telepaths. Fron intelligence and recon to cqb to psychology
So you lads think we're getting bonus content in the game or no?
>>739511795So you're on board with disowning the official version of Krystal in favor of your own interpretation of her.
>>739511295I don’t thin fay and miyu got any character development than Krystal. Both just pop up as star fox pilot. The rest are just assumption
>>73946348610/10, no notes.
>>739511819True but Krystal is not very good at being a telepath in the series. Peppy in the old Nintendo power comic was more useful at that than Krystal ever was.
>>739511885>the official version of KrystalYou mean the one where she was canonically with Star Wolf?
>>739511890They barely have any but for star fox 2 what little they had was OK for the type of game it was. They were nothing more than glorified animal faces for the different vehicle types but that's all they had to be. They're basically blank slates too why I'm open to seeing more of them in future games.
>>739511975She canonically was part of star wolf before the first level of command so yeah
>>739509841>the other characters also have actual personalities>look inside>memes and quips
>>739512035>They were nothing more than glorified animal faces for the different vehicle types but that's all they had to be. They're basically blank slates too why I'm open to seeing more of them in future games.And that’s why I have no problem with Krystal being a pretty face for her vehicule
>>739494807I dont know whats better, old man peppy hare at 36 or retired Alcaholic Cid Highwind at 32.
>>739512146But Krystal isnt a pretty face anymore. She has too much baggage as is from her other appearances and fallout with the furry community.
>>739512284So does all male character of this series with the gay porn, and even miyu and fay.
>>739506580Foot was by far the funniest part of playing 64 with the bros.
Just make a new Star Wolf female. Make her an albino Fox so she still has the "unusual fur vixen" look, and albinos in fiction are usually assigned a mystic or otherworldly character.Give her a name like Frost, or Ghost, or something and there you are, evil Krystal.
>>739512382True but even you have to accept the fact that Krystal is on a whole other league with that. She has two websites dedicated to her for fuck sake
>>739512427>she gets in the way of yaoi and gay furry fanficsHmm, I've seen this sentiment before...
>>739512498WHow about a coyote since they're sort of half way between a wolf and a fox? Grey foxes can work if you want a fox that isnt a fox.
>>739503732>It'll get good if you just give 'tendo money for mediocrity I swearNo, fuck off. Make the good new games now.
>>739511909>Unlimited Bait Works>is visibly using Bait of Babylon???
>>739512686Coyote could work, especially if the whole "shipwrecked survivor" thing from the last thread is played up, since Coyote will both hunt and scavenge, basically anything to survive.Throw in something like that Liquid Snake line from the last thread, and there you are.
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>>739463486>thought it was shooped to make him look fatter>that's how it looks reallylel
>>739513465Winter coat
>>739509548>How do you take somebody that looks like this and decide he is a bottom bitchFox stereotypeAlso Fox is the straight man of the group. All about business. And those type of characters are often considered to be agreeable. they're more thought of as switch than pure submissive tho.
>>739509548Command, Krystal literally has him beg for forgiveness in it.
>all the good art is on Tumblr>it keeps pushing that "um, yikeserino!" window in my faceThe internet is so shit now.
>>739463486>snoy seethe thread>25th today-6million karma to ziony
>>739465817Anon this isn't even a starfox thread.It's just a snoygger seething ove.r Nintendo's undisputed domination.
>>739515249>>739515307Nintendo is not your friend. Shut the fuck up if you have nothing to say.
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>>739512427>and yet people will STILL blame her if this game sells bad because of what I listed.This guy was 100% right. This thread is full of "krystal killed star fox" as if zero isn't right there.
>>739515590Krystal killed star fox tho
>>739515628zero
>>739515590Krystal ruined star fox>>739515720Give me any star fox game idea you can think of that you have but it to be sold on the wii u on April 2016 while using the gamepad and tell me that I'd perform exponentially better than star fox zero did. Any star fox game would be doomed to fail if given zero's launch conditions.
>>739472172Human hair freak.
>>739512573If a character is popular, you usually use them. Which is what Nintendo should do
>>739463486I want to know what Andross' giant floating head is going to look like.
>>739516049Krystal is a popular furry porn character not a popular star fox character. You think Nintendo would want to being her back and then kids and their parents discovering all the Krystal content online? At least fox falcon and wolf you'd find smash bros as the top results.
>>739516180Probably an older crustier version of what andrews model looks like.
>>739463486>Retro pitcher a Star Fox game that was an actual mercenary sim where you go around taking random jobs across the galaxy>We got Metroid Prime 4 insteadWe got Mackenzie instead
>>739516180They already showed it.
>>739516180We kinda already saw it
we have Star Fox at home
>>739463486>24>crying like a childinteresting.
Honestly, Im most excited for the online multiplayer. I hope it's good stuff. The only other Star Fox game that had it was Command, but it was dead as fuck.
>>739516248Huh, I hadn't heard about that one. Sounds similar to that Metroid bounty hunting game that also got shot down.Someone at Retro really wanted their space exploration game.
>>739516423There are ways to play online with ds again.
>>739515628>Miyamoto killed star foxFTFY
>>739516639*Miyamoto raped and killed a fox in 1990
>>739516639Miyamoto is the only one left at Nintendo do who gives a damn. Without him the series would truly be dead.
>>73951618Here.>>739516423What did you think of the online game modes? They seemed pretty fun, I just hope they don't get old quickly.
>>739515993Either every game post 64 failed because of krystal or they didn't. If you're trying to actually apply the real context of why zero failed (not krystal) then you're being dishonest not doing the same for every other game.
>>739510618>t. dubbabby adventurefag
>>739465817You're on /v/. If it wasn't about that, it'll be about niggers and jews as always.
>>739517240Krystal contributed to bringing the series down to such lows Nintendo had to resort to making 64 remakes since that's the only thing that is guaranteed to do well. For all of zero's faults a different games with Krystal in it would have had an even worse performance. Zero also failed in part because of the baggage the series already garnered from the sequels.
>>739517310He probably is an adventure fag who never watched tamers.
i HATE adventure. its so fucking bad. its like what bubsy 3d is to mario, thats what this garbage is to the zelda-esque action adventure puzzle game genre. how did this ENOURMOUS piece of shit get so popular with autists? i truly dont get it.>play dinosaur planet broits the SAME game but bad in different ways. plus, i got the decomp hoping it would be a better experience and its so buggy and glitchy its literally unplayable
>>739465817You tell me.
>>739518191At least adventures is the better star fox GameCube game
>>739518401He's by far the best looking of the redesigns, mainly because they didn't try to graft an irl monkey face over his.
>>739518347thats so grim. i literally couldnt stop playing 64, 1, and 2, and i dont want to turn THIS one on ever again. and its not the genre shift, as i love zelda games above all else. this is just a bad fucking game with no polish and no atmosphere. it really makes you appreciate the effort that goes into the classic nintendo polish, like taking care to make the music match the gameplay and areas to help build the correct atmosphere and feeling.
>>739516423>>739516614If was dead as fuck then, it would be even deader now.
>>739518401hes too handsome. hes supposed to be a sniveling twat whos only on the team because andross told them to allow it.i will be fair and say hes at LEAST qualified, like slippy, but he should LOOK like a dumbass punk. we're going to get a lot of hot monkey cock now
Anybody who still blames Krystal for 'killing Star Fox' is either a disingenuous liar, a tourist parroting nonsensical memes or talking points,or a blind angry nostalgic retard.What REALLY killed Star Fox is a combination of rail-shooters losing relevancy when First/Third person shooters started gaining popularity after 3D graphics were getting better used to with game devs, As well as Miyamoto refusing to let go of his insane hatred for plot in his franchises, and his obsession with gimmicks.Krystal herself has nothing to do with any of this. If anything, she is a symptom of Star Fox's downfall, rather than the cause itself. There's absolutely no rule saying she cannot come back to the franchise and the franchise itself having great games that people like. This is just another bad faith example of>correlation =/= causation
>>739518191I'll go to bat for dinosaur planet and say it wouldn't be a glitchy/buggy mess if Rare had actually finished it and had time to go back and do Q&A. Their games in the 5th gen were relatively light on bugs, so it's just a side effect of the game not being finished/polished.
>>739518401Why does he look like he is about to say the gamer word?
>>739518667>you cant hate gupta just because her family gang raped and then killed your young daughter, she had nothing to do with it besides providing the avenue for them to do soi will hate gupta. i will hate krystal. i will hate you.
>>739488121
>>739518709proto bill and katt
>>739518709you wouldn't last 20 seconds
>>739518539Assault is even worse in that regard. A much less polished star fox 64 game a third of the time and a really subpar shooter the other two thirds. Most of the praise assault gets is what it does differently for the series rather than things it did that it can stand on its own compared to other videogames out there. If you think adventures is a worse Zelda then assault is a worse star fox and shooter game.
>>739518667And what are you then? A tourist from /trash/? I'm aware of Krystal threads happening there.
>>739463486It’s kinda disappointing. There’s a deep well of games from previous generations that the switch 2 can run but there doesn’t seem to be much an initiative to start porting them
>>739518667Yeah it's pretty obvious.>Assault and command failed solely because of krystal>Okay, what about zero then?>Well that one failed because it was on the wii u and had poor controls>No of course assault didn't fail because of poor controls too, that one is JUST because the blue fox girl is in it! Nothing else!It's shamelessly dishonest. Just say you hate the character instead of doing these mental gymnastics.
>>739516223If you think kids search with their parents «Krystal porn» then your delusional. If you think you’ll find porn of this character more easily than you would with say peach or any Nintendo female character then you’re also wrong. Nintendo has no problem putting samus in a thigh outfit in their games, and they can’t ignore how this is perceived
At this point, I'm fairly certain the only reason Krystal is not brought back is solely Miyamoto being pissed that the one popular character of the franchise was made by filthy gaijin.
>>739518997Maybe someone who has a better analys at star fox assault than> BLUE FOX BAD Playing this game, you actually see the problem with it, and Krystal ain’t one of it.
>>739519374Nah he loves krystal, he's the whole reason she got put in a skimpy outfit for adventure. It's solely just the fact they want to remake 64 forever and she's not in that one. Occam's razor, not whatever schizophrenic conspiracy theories people in these threads are dreaming up.
I think Krystal and Sauria are coming back next game, maybe even a cameo in this one as a post-credits teaser. It's an important extension of the worldbuilding for better or worse. The difference is that her game isn't going to play like an OOT clone that got shackled to the brand last-minute.
>>739519374That would be extra funny because the reason why Krystal looks the way she does now is because Miyamoto (and Imamura) wanted her to be a sexy character compared to Rare's original take on Krystal.
>>739518997To be fair, it only looks that way because some autistic janny from /v/ will purge any star fox/Krystal thread to /trash/ when they see her as the OP image. You can literally be talking in good faith about star fox with Krystal as the OP image and it will be enough for a janny from here to purge it to /trash/.
>>739518783Hmmm. I do not recall Krystal doing anything like that in any of the games she was in. The fact you have to go that far to justify your hate for her just proves you have nothing.
>>739518401Andrew won so fucking hard it's not even funny
>>739519515>I think Krystal and Sauria are coming back next gameGiven Adventures was the only other Star Fox game outside of the original and 64 shown off in the direct. High possibility that something is going on with Adventures, and they're likely saving Krystal for a later game. Wouldn't even be out of the question, either, since King K Rool (another former Rare character owned by Nintendo) comes back to the DK series after being gone for years on end.
>>739519515i think the best hope is she goes IGNORED. the second best hope is a dinosaur planet remake, sans star fox. the third best hope is a REWRITTEN adventure to be less retarded and remove all magic and fantasy elements so they wont clash with star fox. the fourth best hope is JUST general lust penis and krystal show up in a brand new star fox 2 and that whole dinosaur planet and adventure plot is thrown away>>739519932>your example was too effective so that means i wingg
>>739463486very telling op, clearly underage.>implying ages 4-12 reach out to customer service at all>choosing 24 as the caller's age, seeing it as suuuper old
>>739518667starfox being a rail shooter wouldnt have even killed it if nintendo just treated it like a tech demo for each gen which was basically what zero wound up being instead of letting it flounder in irrelevance while they make 20 mario shovelware games
>>739520089>I'm retarded.
10 years later and this post is still relevant.
>>739520089Retard
>>739518667>As well as Miyamoto refusing to let go of his insane hatred for plot in his franchisesI'm glad that someone pointed this out, because it's extremely noticeable. The dude just hates creativity in general. I mean, just look at what he did to Paper Mario. I think the dude genuinely believes that children are fundamentally retarded or something, and that expecting them to get invested in a story is something that they're incapable of. It doesn't even need to be overly complex, but it's obvious that he has some kind of prejudice against it, because he thinks a video game just needs to be something you can turn your brain off while playing.
>>739471956Unironically a better Fox design than the bad taxidermy version we got
>>739519450Imagine if the remake actually looked like this, it'd be soul overload.
don't care, Krystal is still a shit character
>>739520565>>739520645stay mad you worthless faggot
>>739520989U mad.
>>739520953You just don't like her because you're a gay zoomer obsessed with A Fox in Space and by Krystal existing it confirms Fox was straight.
>>739520660>I think the dude genuinely believes that children are fundamentally retarded or somethingGiven his opinion on the Mario Galaxy movie fast-pace. You might be right on that.https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-explains-why-the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-is-so-fast-paced/
>>739520989That all you got? Like I said, you have nothing!
Post your best run
how many times can you remake the same fucking game?>>739467006>>739471956>>739487485here for these
>>739520636This aged like milk with the latest star fox game
>>739520660Miyamoto is a senile boomer>doesn't like plot in games>But also paradoxically WANTS games to be more cinematic Maybe he huff too many fumes before he started working in vidya
>>739521171>how many times can you remake the same fucking game?good question, I guess we'll have to wait and see
>>739520953Krystal is also a shot girlfriend for fox. Fara from the Nintendo comic was o objectively a better girlfriend since they actually share interests, she empathizes with him upon learning his backstory, and is a chill girl to hang out with.
>>739521080Maybe his son traumatized him by being so bad at Mario 64
>>739521171I don't know, how many times can you repost the same image?
>>739520636Krystalfags can't meme
>>739521365So Kenshi Miyamoto is why later 3d Marios post Sunshine have auto-play or invincibility for the whole level modes. It's all making sense now.
Command should have had an ending where Panther leaves Krystal for Fox.
>>739521365>Your own kids can't get up a hill>Dumbed down every nintendo game afterwards
>>739465817this shit has NOTHING to do with street fighter, what the fuck
>>739521961I guarantee it was the hill leading up the mountain in the first stage. But maybe he was just seeing if he could find a way to get up there, and it was interpreted wrong. But also 3D games were new at the time, and moving around in 3D environments is notoriously difficult for beginners, so who knows.
>>739521019im wearing a chastity cage. you cant beat me.
>>739521623
>>739521029You called it
>>739521208No it didn't. All Star Fox threads are now is just memeing about the character designs.
>>739516919I like that it's obvious that fake Andross is a robot. I hope the real one will look different, and not just the same but without engines and obvious cybernetics. He better have a spooky laugh in both fights.
>>739501054
I am looking forward to it!
>>739521623Command's story was fucking shit. Some of that is due to the localization, but who the fuck made the default ending where Fox gets cucked? Endings 1 and 2 are the only tolerable ones.
>>739523646Fox genuinely looks really good here. If they had kept his height and legs normal then he'd look better in-game.
>>739501054Easy on the sandwiches Krystal.....
