What's with people in the last few years making these wild claims, where they pretend the developers thought of everything, even down to the most minute details?No, Malenia like every single boss in a Fromsoft game since DeS has the same omnidirectional, unobstructable vision sense they do (in the game's code it's called nose_distance, but that doesn't really mean they can smell you either, since it's just the programmers distinguishing different AI senses)
>>739465973This is a weird troll thread. 4/10
>>739465973>like every single boss in a Fromsoft game since DeSOld Hero is canonically blind and that's part of the mechanics of the boss fight. If you're in soul form or silence your footsteps in some way he can't do shit if you back up and stop moving after hitting him.
Nigger just wanted to make a thread about the illusorywall video. Also, if they can't actually smell you, why wasn't the variable named something else then, faggot?
Since these games have no story(and no lore), virgin neck beards have to make up LE EBIN Reddit stories so the game feels more worth it and EPIC to them like it VALUES THEIR TIME! Every thing and tiny pebble in the game has its own lore reason for being there! That’s just how good Japanese slop is!
>>739465973she was taught swordsmanship by a blind man who has an association with flowing water, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that was a real thing.
OP is autistic as fuck. Fuck you for posting twitter garbage btw, faggot.
>>739465973Malenia's not actually blind, hence why her helmet has visor slits for her to see. Most of the arena doesn't have water in it either. Malenia was trained by a blind swordsman though.
>>739467876She literally doesn't have eyes.
>>739468012They're covered with Scarlet Rot fungus, but they're still there, and clearly she would have had eyes during the Shattering when considering the design of her helmet to boot. Plus, if you stealth around while avoiding the water she'll attack anyway, especially in Phase 2.
>>739470216The helmet looks like it was designed to plausibly give the impression of eyes to outsiders while she actually lost them long ago. The visor comes down too low to actually see through.
>needs water to know where enemies are>fights radahn in a fucking desert, jobs, and then nukes an entire region as a copeso she's retarded, got it.
>>739470514Well, Radahn is like 20 feet tall and probably weighs as much as an elephant. I bet he's pretty easy to hear move around.
>>739470363Malenia can see through the sides, and she demonstrably can see in the boss fight itself.
>>739467303Its actually depressing witnessing this, I guess for Americans it makes sense because they have no history or mythology but its no excuse for a europeanEvery stone road and building has a story behind it, learn the lore of the world around you for goodness sake
>>739470607Radahn could have fought her blind by floating, or just killed her when her arm was dethatched instead of waiting for her to put it back on. Being honorable really fucked him and the entire world.
>>739472985https://files.catbox.moe/cor5lr.pdfIf we go with this screencap mix, which I figured out came from the above magazine interview, it seems that Radahn basically made her fight through his army first. She was meant to be battle damaged and bruised from war, before even getting to him. While he waited for her to arrive as the boss fight at the end.
>>739472985>>739473287This thing is from a very incomplete draft. Radahn already has spears from the Cleanrot Knights in his back, so he obviously had to fight her forces, and in this rough draft, if she stabbed him there she'd have won outright, there would be no need for the Scarlet Aeonia. She doesn't get him anywhere near there in the final cutscene, instead mainly stunning him while her focus is in breaking the needle in her body.
>>739470514Yes, she's retarded. She even had to shed off what little reason she had as an entirely separate person just go to through with being a retard>>739473391>if she stabbed him there she'd have won outright, there would be no need for the Scarlet Aeonia.I think it would take more than that broski>>739465973The actual reason that there's water in her room is to 1. Mitigate her (relative) fire weakness2. Show that the room is somehow free from the touch of her own rot, so that you can speculate on what that could mean
>>739465973Oh also OP, you're an autistic retard, OP wasn't suggesting that the game was literally having Malenia detect your footsteps in the water, just that it provided a diegetic reason for how she was tracking you despite being blind.
>>739465973> No, Malenia like every single boss in a Fromsoft game since DeS has the same omnidirectional, unobstructable vision sense they do (in the game's code it's called nose_distance, but that doesn't really mean they can smell you either, since it's just the programmers distinguishing different AI senses)Yes yes, we all Illusary Wall’s YouTube video. But you are also wrong. Not every boss has smell. It’s possible to stealth right up behind many Elden Ring bosses. Including Bayle and Consort Radahn. DeS also didn’t have smell, Dirty Collosus can de-agro if you hide behind a pillar in his fight, even if he already saw you earlier.
>>739473739Bayle? Really? That must be hilarious with his music
>>739473739Bayle and PCR do have smell in that it is impossible to ever break aggro from inside their arenas once you're inside. They just have aggro scripts that don't activate properly if you enter the arena while invisible. Morgott is another boss you can cheese like that.
>>739465973because these people don't play games. they think fromsoft literally invented basic 3D action game concepts because they don't fucking play games.
>twater threadClean it up, janny.
>>739467303>>739472643yawnget new material
>>739465973Just coming in to say the funniest bit of lorefag redditors over-analyzing everything had to be when everyone was gushing about the super detailed wall murals in Elphael, only for them to turn out to be an asset ripped from Path of Exile.
>>739465973>No, Malenia like every single boss in a Fromsoft game since DeS has the same omnidirectional, unobstructable vision sense they do (in the game's code it's called nose_distance, but that doesn't really mean they can smell you either, since it's just the programmers distinguishing different AI senses)You are so fucking retarded and autistic it's unreal
>>739474150Yep. Its just a generic texture that I believe is scanned from a real building in the Netherlands or somewhere near there.
>>739474150Well realistically both probably came from some stock asset collection
>>739473935it’s actually really easy.1) enter the fight once and trigger his initial divebomb enterance 2) just die 3) cast sorcery “Unseen Form” and ash of war “assassins gambit”, both must be active at same time 4) enter the fog, Bayle will not agro 5) walk right around edge of arena, as close to wall to as you can, no need to slow walk, jogging is fine, just keep re-casting stealth buffs so they never expire 6) get directly behind him and creep very carefully towards his back. This bit is sketchy, if your angle is slightly off he will detect you7) arrive very close to his tail.8) cast poison mist incantation, it’s 100% silent, so as long as you don’t move character at all, and just keep casting poison mist, you will slowly poison him to death.And that’s how I got Bayles Tyranny incant on my level 20 twink character, there’s also enough ARC boosting items to use it at level 20. No one expects Bayles Tyranny in Limgrave coop or PvP.
>>739474150>>739474359
>>739474150lel
>>739474359The old Mint of Holland.
>>739473986No, their AI turns on just fine. They still get distracted by sounds and go investigate if you throw a kukri while they are unaware of you.If smell existed they would instantly detect you. It works because their vision limit is set to a distance that, after being reduced by double-stealth-buffs, is just slightly smaller than radius of boss arena.Romina as well, although she does always detect you if you get close to her, but you can remain stealthed within like 5m of her. So either she has close range smell, or some kind of super-hearing, or maybe 360 degree vision. Which consort and Bayle clearly don’t have, since you can sneak up super close to them.
>>739474150>>739474675lolfromtards really are in a league of their own when it comes to blind fanboyism
>>739474473>there’s also enough ARC boosting items to use it at level 20. No one expects Bayles Tyranny in Limgrave coop or PvP.Lol. I remember invading DS1 parish with the dragon king greataxe, good times
>>739474782Every dev uses asset packages you fucking retard
>>739474892yeah no shit, however what other fanbase slobbers all over the dev's dicks like everything is hand made and had crafted with intent.
>>739473568>>739473287You are forgetting that the ghost that talks about wanting to see Radahn and Malenia fighting in the bloomfield again. Malenia bloomed to match his strength and she got put into a coma and he got CTE. That's the canon lore. Malenia failed to kill Radahn, but her poison knocked his brains out.
>>739465973Actually she didn't move for eons, she had to piss somewhere. It's not water.
>>739473568That's a highly artery and organ dense area she stabs in the rough draft, anon. She doesn't hit that area in the actual cutscene.
>>739475043Tendies. Rockstar fanboys. MMO cultists
>>739475175Just rub some little crimson tears in there he'll be right
>>739467179>if they can't actually smell you, why wasn't the variable named something else thenNTA, it is funny? Sight, hearing and touch are all in the game and make sense, if you need to add a catch all detection range smell makes more sense than taste and fits the theme.
>>739465973It's clickbait, and you just fell for the trap
>>739474150Well since we're already on the topic of redditorsI thought it was really funny when a guy claimed the Godskin Apostles OST was in Latin and posted his "translation" of it which was completely pulled out of his ass. Half the supposed Latin transcription he provided alongside was not even Latin but Spanish. Redditors were losing their minds over the lyrics and how le Fromsoft has so much attention to detail, then sperged when people who actually knew Latin said otherwise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkoQPPEeCb4
>>739474782Sure, but they also are a really detailed company. Like how the Hollowslayer GS in DS3 deals the extra damage to phase 2 Gale but not phase 1, or how Ludwig in Bloodborne no longer takes bonus serrated damage in phase 2 as he regains his humanity and loses the mind of a beast. FS does focus on a lot of detail when it would be relevant. Fanboys just also go off the rails
>>739475631>Like how the Hollowslayer GS in DS3 deals the extra damage to phase 2 Gale but not phase 1I've never liked this though, it should be the other way around.
