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Why do western RPG fans hate anime art style so much?
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It's mainly people that pay to post on a forum that feel this way
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>>739470829
I wish they did. Can we go back to the days where anime was satanic and perverted? kthxbai
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>>739471018
This

Just take me back to the 2000s whenever everyone call anime lame and gay and ugly and everyone just stuck to the type of games they liked.
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>>739470829
they're troons and they hate any sort of beauty
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>zelda
>rpg
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>>739470829
Give me my power of friendship games back GIVE IT BACK
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>>739471104
That's how you know it's an ancient image.

Yes there was a long period during the late 90s up to 2000s where people were genuinely arguing Zelda was an RPG
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Source: https://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2011/01/game-42-sorcerian.html
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>>739470829
>NO IM NOT RACIST
>AGAIN NO IM NOT RACIST
idk but is probably a racism thing.
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>>739470829
I hate over-cutesy stuff. Most of it is also just boring and generic.
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>>739471509
why is OP seething over a literally who post from 2011
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>>739471665
xitter ragebait is oversaturated i guess
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>>739470829
We don't.
>But one retard nigger on twitter does
Ok go post there not here
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>>739470829
>Why do western RPG fans hate anime art style so much?
If you talk shit about tranime artstyle on /vg/ or /co/ you'll get banned for racism, lol. The west loves anime more than western comics nowadays.
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>>739470829
These are the type of people running the western game industry today. They can't even look at a picture of Link without getting "physically ill" which is why everything has to be extra ugly now.
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>>739471836
>unprompted tranny obsession
>thinks he got banned (on an anime & manga website) for hating anime
retards like you always spam threads with schizo shit lol
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>>739471603
People that preach "I'm not racist!" constantly are usually the most racist in the room.
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>>739471903
its true thats why im racist
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Those wacky Japanese ha ha
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>>739471885
>unprompted tranny obsession
You're delusional. If you don’t want people calling it 'Tranime', maybe explain why the artstyle attracts so many actual trannies, kek
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>>739472245
>maybe explain why the artstyle attracts so many actual trannies, kek
It's called gatekeeping, normie
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>>739470829
Cultural association with anything stylized being for children so they find it distasteful as adults
Autists tend to be free from thinking of said associations which is why older anime fans and bronies and those women who are into Hello Kitty etc. etc. all have the reputations they do
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>>739470829
funny thing, the more that you insist that you arent racist, the more you seem like a racist. At least I will personally admit I dont like black "people" very much
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>>739471836
>if you talk shit about tranime artstyle on /vg/ or /co/ you'll get banned for racism, lol.
True
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>>739470829
>This is nothing against white people. It's not a racial thing. I have known and loved many white people. I just wish they wouldn't try to draw stuff.
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>>739470829
>Why do western RPG fans hate anime art style so much?
Who cares what mentally ill people think. The proof that they are mentally ill is that they play WRPGs.
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Reminder datamined content revealed Tifa was a famous prostitute long before the Don Corneo mission
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>>739471885
>on an anime & manga website
obligatory
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>>739473246
yeah whatever and London was built by the Africans
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>>739470829
cute aggression
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>>739470829
>no one actually looks like this
let me guess, leftist troon writer who hates cuteness, beauty, neoteny and asian features.
"I'm not racist but-"
>proceeds to list bunch of obviously racist reasons for hating "animation" (most of the pictures aren't even anime)
>literally makes claims like "arr rook same" while posting images that are all distinctly different
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>>739473197
I think these dudes just assumed Tifa was one of Corneos new whores.
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>>739470829
>Humiliation rituals mean that they have short hair which they don't actually like
>Stress, unhealthy eating and drugs mean that they age prematurely so they look like they're 60 when they're 20
>There's a weird western pressure to think anything animated is for children, because the West really likes stamping down on the most effective propaganda tools when they're not using them
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>>739473519
>cute aggression
and all the distinct undeveloped brain features that come with it
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>>739471232
>genuinely arguing
Irrelevant.
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>>739470829
This is a self report for hypoamygdala brain damage, which is also strongly linked to having progressive politics.
It's characterized by cute aggression: inappropriate negative responses to cute anime characters, and an altered fear response/threat perception. Women frequently give themselves this brain damage by using birth control in their teens but it has wider prevalence.

That's why this website has an anti progressive bias; 4chan preselects for people amenable to anime.
It's an invisible gate.

I'm glad more people are becoming aware of this phenomenon and the importance of whimsey, and anime.
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>>739473860
relevant.
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>>739473923
>Women frequently give themselves this brain damage by using birth control in their teens
This sounds like utter bullshit but I'll believe it
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>>739473246
You should see how many different topic boards forums like ATF have that are not about the thing the forum is about
You don't understand how forums work becaise you were not around for them
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>>739470829
Real answer.
You might as well ask why certain people don't like cal-arts style, or all those pink and blue colored games that have been popping up in the last few years. Or why eastern RPG fans tend to avoid more realistically styled games.
Regardless of how good the game is or how unique the style is within the wider purview of "anime", it's something that comes pre-loaded with a lot of connotations that most people have no interest in.
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>>739470829
Looks gay as shit. The women look like bugs and the men look like women.
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>>739474182
>because*
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>CRPGaddict
The guy was an ex rpgcodex member and even they make fun of him for being a lolcow. Protip. Most online blobber CRPGfags are fucking insane when it comes to anything jrpg or anime related and make even Xplay look tame when they shit on Japanese games.
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>>739471836
>The west loves anime more than western comics nowadays.
As it should, western comics are fucking terrible and always have been.
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>>739471836
>if you act like a retarded faggot tourist on these boards you get banned
Yeah, I fucking wish that was more consistent.
/a/ is the only board where I know for a fact mods have no tolerance for you "people" and they act quickly.

>>739473246
Retard.
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>>739470829
Cause they need their disgusting Tumblr:
-Moles
-Blemishes
-Acne scars
Cyberpunk 2077 almost made me puke
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>>739470829
Based Timonidy in the comments called this shit out for what it was as it was happening.
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>>739474419
CHAD
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>>739473197
Well, seems irrefutable
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>/a/ is the only board where I know for a fact mods have no tolerance for you "people" and they act quickly.
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>>739471875
The way they combat it actually is making Link into a gay cuck
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aging women form a hostility towards youth and beauty.
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>>739474274
They're all like this, and I'll always remind myself of Nier when it comes to East vs West controversies
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>>739470829
>anti-anime sperg melting down over stylised art not looking realistic
These guys have always been pathetic retards.
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>>739475019
BUT HOW DOES HE LIFT THE SWORD??????????
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>>739470829
>I'm not racist against X, i have many X friends
why do they always use this exact same argument? nobody buys it, yet they keep trying it.
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>>739473197
Haven't played, but I assumed she was a slut by the way she dresses, this seems natural to me
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>>739471836
>>739473246
Why does stating facts cause so much seething? I feel like Jesus rn https://litter.catbox.moe/1q2ado.PNG
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Funny you ignore the post pointing out your ignorance
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>>739470829
Jealousy. (they wish they can draw like that)
Sour Grapes. (when they realize they can't)
They got bullied. (when the local jocks and stacies in their high school years found out that the like such stuff)
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>>739471509
Always the Dobson breed of autists
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>>739475691
The reaction to Wind Waker is suspicious. The reaction to Raiden from MGS2 is suspicious.
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>>739470829
>so the female figures you're supposed to be attracted to look uncannily like children
>tifa
>child
I think this person is a pedo and doesn't understand what it meant to be an attractive character and what you are meant to find attractive about them
Don't understand how else you could come to that conclusion unless you are a pedo and projecting.

Same as the weird racism he keeps bringing up, no one will think your racist for saying you don't like the artstyle, but if you keep bringing up racism and thinking about it, then its probably because you hate japanese people and are racist but just can't admit it.
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>>739473197
who's tifa
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>>739475576
>the post pointing out your ignorance
It just looks like autistic sperging to me, lol
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>>739470829
So what kind of art style would rpgs have then? Might and fucking Magic?
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>>739470829
Because, unlike what you believe, anime style is still seen as problematic by normalfaggots. That's why Balding Gay 3 and The Shitter 3 were successful, they have a boring, realistic aesthetic that make normalfags feel safe by playing them
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>>739471509
>>739471665
Honestly this checks out the most. This was right around the peak of the 7th gen, and western arrogance.
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>>739476018
fantasy rpgs should look something like picrel
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>>739476018
probably yeah. don't anti jap faggots know about the anime drawn versions of MM1
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>>739476160
Ghey
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>No one actually looks like this
It's called fiction.
Why are some people so retarded? And why do they use their retardation as the basis for their arguments?
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>>739470829
Boomer/Gen X mentality that assumes all anime are nothing but Chinese cartoons. Just like how all video games gets lumped as "Nintendo"
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>>739470829
>I'm not racist
>said a racist
lol
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>>739476353
>>739475216
>>739471903
You can't be racist against rich privileged Japanese people
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There is a type of sperg, usually chud-adjacent, who hates anime for purely aesthetic reasons that he is too autistic to ever properly articulate. There is also a type of moralizing control freak, usually a lib these days, who hates anime because he or she has no power to manipulate or browbeat Japanese creatives, so (s)he feels threatened by the increasing popularity of a medium in which the creators are largely beyond his or her reach.
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>>739476434
>You can't be racist
>said a racist
lol
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>>739470829
This is me, but with my ire turned toward modern Western animation styles found in stuff like Regular Show, Family Guy, Rick and Morty, Archer, Big Mouth, King of the Hill, etc. That shit makes me gag. How did we go from Batman the Animated Series to this garbage?
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>>739471018
This but unironically
I want tourists out
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>>739476506
>How did we go from Batman the Animated Series to this garbage?
because we stopped drawing real cartoons during the later 2000s and just settled with calarts stuff
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>>739471509
Who fused MRS and NZRN together?
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>>739476220
>dragons and swords are Ghey
do weebz really believe stuff like this?
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>>739476285
The whole point in having humans in fiction and stories is relatability to real people.
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>>739470829
They prefer things to be boring and generic realism, while ironically calling all the different japanese art styles boring and generic.
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>>739470829
Imagine getting this mondbroken by stylization
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>>739470829
My problem with anime style, at least in videogames, is that a lot of it looks sterile. Pale colors, samey faces, generic landscapes, too safe in general
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>>739476506
>Regular Show, Family Guy, Rick and Morty, Archer, Big Mouth, King of the Hill,
all shows made decades ago
>How did we go from Batman the Animated Series to this garbage?
It's your own fault you watch slop. There's still some good western animation being made. Meanwhile, modern eastern animation is almost entirely the same recycled, fotm moe slop with generic power fantasy protagonists, and zero originality. But sure, keep coping and pretending your taste isn’t bottom of the barrel
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>>739476840
How many dragons did you slay today, Mr Siegfried?
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>>739470829
Because it panders to faceblind spergs with those tiny uncharacteristic noses.
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>>739470829
anime is a sign it will be childish and have bad writing.
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>>739477275
>It's your own fault you watch slop. There's still some good western animation being made. Meanwhile, modern eastern animation is almost entirely the same recycled, fotm moe slop with generic power fantasy protagonists, and zero originality. But sure, keep coping and pretending your taste isn’t bottom of the barrel
Holy cope.
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>>739477379
how am i wrong? I'm curious to hear your cope.
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>>739477375
Pretending western shit has good writing after 15 years of western leftist propaganda slop in video games, movies and comics is so funny man.
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>>739477472
Nah, whatever I said you'll cope hard and pretend it doesn't exist.
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Jokes aside, anime has a shitload of different art styles but it comes from a culture the complete polar opposite of the west.

Japanese people still talk with symbols, have far less synonyms in their vocabulary and are HEAVY on symbolism in their stories which wind up looking childish to people who can't scrape past the surface and still demonize depth of writing as pretentious.

Anime art styles are associated with that "childish mentality" to people who glorify sex, cuckolding and violence as the pinnacle of adult sophistication.
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>>739477532
And drugs.
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>>739477492
They spent trillions of government funded tax money on all these stories, yet they ALL turned out so bad, that the whole world opposes and dismisses them. FUCK it made Trump president TWO TIMES.

There is no bigger redpill than western leftists stories.
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>>739477509
>Nah, whatever I said you'll cope hard and pretend it doesn't exist.
Nah, you just have no actual argument so you're preemptively crying "cope" first like a little bitch.
If you had anything real to say, you'd say it instead of dodging. Pathetic.
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>>739470829
We don't
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>>739477532
>Anime art styles are associated with that "childish mentality" to people who glorify sex, cuckolding and violence
Aren't the japanese super into cuckoldry and sex though?
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>>739477784
You mean the people who throw a fit if their celebrity has a boyfriend?
No absolutely not. NTR as a fetish is a very tiny portion of the population, especially compared to the west. It's one of the techniques (((they))) employ to try and divide a nation, by corrupting relations between the people utilizing cuckolding and gender stuff.
Japan is still far behind the west and middle east in terms of corrupted cultures, and the burning of their shrines is going to radicalize them.
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>>739477784
Only fictional. Westerners are into the real thing.
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>>739470829
They look uncannily like children yet nobody looks like this. The fucker can't keep a thought straight for two whole sentences.
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>>739477870
Kids do NOT exist
Do NOT think about kids
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>>739477784
No, that's koreans because they're quite literally cucked by their own women on a mass scale
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>>739477784
ppl here will say no, but there's plenty of evidence to the contrary
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>>739471232
>>739471104
since when is zelda not an rpg? what is it?
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>>739478079
Looked into that website.
It's made by literally nobody. The best way to contact them is a fucking gmail account and nothing else.
It's just some guy spreading misinformation.
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Mutts just mad they cant draw for shit
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>>739478079
The evidence is misleading and were used by ntrcucks like yourself.

Fyi for you faggots; They also include cheating or stealing under the NTR tags which automatically include any title that involve something like housewife, husband etc.
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Why did TSR & SSI approach CAPCOM and not a western developer?
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>>739478567
and picrel?
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>>739478674
What kind of faggot censors the words in a ranking.
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>>739478974
>What kind of faggot censors the words in a ranking.
what do expect from a culture that censors all their porn
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>>739478083
>no character creation
>no stat distribution
>no gear with stats on it
>no dialogue choices with lasting consequences
>no skill trees
Why would you ever think of Zelda as an rpg when it's so clearly not?
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>>739470829
Because they prefer this kind of gay cringe artstyle
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>>739470829
Anime is for chuds. Real RPG fans want quirky and wholesome adventures with good MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ folks
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>>739473197
This seems obvious? Anyway, still off topic
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>>739478674
Notice it has three words there. Most of it is the stuff where (you), the mc, "steal" a girl from her piece of shit abusive husband/boyfriend/etc
NTR is despised enough that companies that make it and normal stuff have to make it under a "black" (as in evil) company label detached from the main company. Recent case in point is the company Kuma-san who had to make "Kuma Black" to do more risky stuff like that because no one wanted in or around their main games (MonMusuTDx, Twinkle Starknights, Girls's Creation)
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>>739479883
Nice try but anime has always been a tranny hive and real chuds hate it.
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>>739471509
>crpgaddict
lol this is the state employee/social security case who had a week long spergout when people who visited his blog wouldn't endorse Hillary Clinton and who judges games upon a scale of "le internal economy".
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>>739477846
>It's one of the techniques (((they))) employ to try and divide a nation
go back to /pol/, you mouth breathing imbecile
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>>739476434
>manga/anime artists
>rich and privileged
lol, lmao even. those guys all die at 50 from work related stress.
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>>739478658
Kinu Nishimura? More like Kino Nishimura. Fucking love these games
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>>739470829
their parents neglected to raise them on wholesome Disney
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Because it’s more cliche than even Redddit slop.

Seeing a little witch girl surrounded by spell sigils got old real fast
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>>739479373
most of those ideas are extremely off-topic regarding the game roles to play
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I have the same revulsion towards American stylisation. Spongebob, Adventure Time, Ren & Stimpy, Family Guy, The Simpsons. Something fundemental about it is just ugly and offputting.

Old Disney, Warner Bros, and Don Bluth stuff doesn't illicit the same reaction but Hanna Barbera stuff does.
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>>739483161
You don't like The Flintstones. Shit taste. You have shit taste. Your opinions are invalid.
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>>739470829
They also hate swords & sorcery styled RPGs because there's half naked women in it (fully naked men are OK). They're probably just really into big burly men or big burly men (female) and are turned off when they see a conventionally attractive women or anigay boy.
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>>739475962
Built for incestual breeding
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I never really understood why the west resents youth so much.
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>>739483402
Goonbait doesn’t make a good game. Look at Chinese games. It’s just porn and gambling
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>>739476160
Unfathomably based
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A little boy with messy hair going on a whimsical adventure is kinda played out.
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>>739483680
When I see a conventionally attractive woman or anigay boy, I don't immediately think of hardcore pornography and gambling. This is, objectively, a personal issue of yours.
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>>739483652
It didn't used to be this extreme, but I agree that a full cast of teens/20somethings has never been as ok in adult-aimed entertainment as it is in the east for as long as I've been alive. The east you have to admit has a crazy obsession with youth though.
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>>739483161
I have the same but with American comic book style, especially superheros. Even when it's supposed to be sexy, nothing makes me close a page and mentally ignore something faster than seeing that colorful spandex. If it's realistic I might be OK with it (but I only really care about Batman,) and if stylized enough like Bruce Timm I might be OK (again, only care about Batman) otherwise I'm out of there.
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The market is oversaturated with shit now.
9 times out of 10 the random anime is shit now
you can tell most of it is outsourced to 3rd worlders like the chinese now
It looks so soulless now
The only way to save anime is to stop watching it now
Now.
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>>739471903
Yup, and Nazis are ironically the most accepting, as long as you're aligned ideologically. Perfectly willing to have a brotherhood of nations built on mutual respect as long as people remain segregated. The American Nazi party were allies of the Black Panthers.

I'd rather trust someone who is not afraid to say what he thinks than someone who only parrots politically correct ideas.
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>>739480905
>real soiteens hate it.
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When did you realize that western RPGs were never good, and it's understandable that young people prefer Chrono Trigger and Xenoblade?
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>>739476840
That's a trap being imposed by retards coming in from advertising that assume that peer pressure is "relating to real people", because they're soulless brown-nosing automata. No one actually relates to humans with human faces.
People will relate more quickly to a sad-looking lamp than they will to a fully realized human character. lacking a full range of human features bypasses several evolutionary cutoffs and caps for identifying outgroups, competition and disease.
>>739477870
It's the natural consequence of a furry in denial trying to describe why he doesn't like fictional human characters without just outright stating that they need snouts.
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>>739482059
>fundamentally misunderstands the appeal of the genre
same kind of pretentious faggot as the one in op
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>>739484951
Have you seen what Ultima IV looks like? It could have the most amazingly-written story and characters and no one would want to touch it. It's just a fact that appealing visuals has a huge impact on how people perceive and rate games, even aspects that aren't really related, like being boring. Western RPGs insisted on the poor choice of trying to do realistic graphics, which looked like shit at low resolutions and aged even worse, and overall they had worse and fewer dedicated artists, and more programmer-adjacent artists.
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>>739470829
Just another sad realismfag
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>>739476506
>How did we go from Batman the Animated Series to this garbage?
Batman the Animated Series was animated by Japan.
The rest you mention were animated by modern americans and they are physically incapable of doing anything but slop.
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>>739476840
So do Disney films not exist? Is "anthropomorphic" a made up term?

Are there not hundreds of stories about the heroism and lives of animals?
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>>739473197
>datamined content
From the american rewrite of the ps1 game*
It's not in the japanese version, it's olddogg tier.
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>>739477275
>eanwhile, modern eastern animation is almost entirely the same recycled, fotm moe slop with generic power fantasy protagonists, and zero originality. But sure, keep coping and pretending your taste isn’t bottom of the barrel

Just this season we have Nippon Sangoku, Rooster Fighter, Ridiculous Reincarnation, Daemons of the Shadow Realm, Liar Game, Drops of God, and Marriage Toxin.

All of these shows are unique, have nothing to do with isekai (besides 1 which is a parody anyway), an not a moeblob in sight.

Like its gonna exist whether you like it or not, but there is plenty of shows with a variety of demographics. Its weird how people argue that the shows they watched when they were 15 is really all thats there.
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>>739476506
Wakfu happened at least.
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>>739487147
Look up what anthropomorphic means
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>>739471885
>>unprompted tranny obsession

Its amazing how you troons consistently stick to the narrative that you people arent the ones driving this mental illness and the real problem are the people noticing you doing it.
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>>739470829
>females look uncannily like children
there it is. retarded tranny opinion, safe to disregard entirely
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>>739476285
My theory is that the constant flood of screens and internet content is messing with the younger generation's sense of what's real and what's fiction. When you and I were growing up, we'd come home after a long day of school and running around at the park, excited to turn on the TV and watch a spiky‑haired Cloud Strife fight a dragon. Why? Because it was a visual spectacle, an escape from reality.

Now, zoomers are glued to screens all day, every day. The screen is their reality, and they struggle to grasp the idea of seeing something on it that isn't realistic.
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>>739487307
all tranime looks the same to me, sorry
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western devs always hated jp games. The only one they pretend to like are games that are japanese but dont look like it. final fantasy, fromsoft, RE, zelda and others.
Thats the reason excrement33, a mishmash of tropes and systems straight up lifted from jp games, got so many awards
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>>739488661
Explain Metaphor, a game that's japan and anime to the core, winning so many awards at western shows.
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>>739470829
Because anime art has gone from actually looking pretty god damn good, to being the laziest, cheapest slop out there. Literally Amazing World Of Gumball is better art than SAOface nuAnime.

And every facet of anime looking cheap is exacerbated in 3D models with "anime style." It CAN look good (see: First Of The North Star: Lost Paradise), but 99% of the time it's very obviously a featureless, perfectly smooth Anime Flesh Balloon Head with a face painted on it and a fucking ridiculous haircut or outfit in the hopes you don't notice.

tl;dr All of east Asia has become an incorrigible slop factory and only the lowest of common denominator Thing Comma Japan fanboy cons00mer would defend it. And it's particularly sad in Japan's case, because, unlike China and Korea, Japan USED to produce kino on the reg.
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>>739473197
She was a bartender in a bar with very few customers in a slum. How else do you think the harlot made money to eat?
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>>739471885
It's an American website on the American internet, phaget
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>>739488884
A country going from creating FotNS to whatever the hell has been going on for the past 20 years makes me come to only one conclusion, we need to nuke them again for their own good.
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>>739483140
Call pd duty is more of an rpg then zelda.
>play a role just like zelda
>has levels and stats unlike zelda
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>>739474375
Hey Lois
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>>739488884
>I only care about how the anime looks and not the quality of the writing
Retard Alert
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>>739489431
Writing is also a necessary condition for any work in a storytelling medium to be good, and anime writing is mostly as dogshit as most of the "art" and """animation""" at this stage. When it's not a striking bad bed shitting like Attack On Titan or even the Death Note ending, it's the most astoundingly uncreative, boring, iterative, rote repetition of what was Popular Thing 15 fucking years ago like That Time I Was Trampled By A Yak And Reincarnated In A Fantasy Realm As Elfgirl Panties or whatever the fuck the 5th Loser Gets A Harem "light novel" to release this month is called
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>>739476160
that's as retarded as a person letting an ant command them
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>>739489431
The quality of writing in Japanese anime, manga and games hasn't improved at all in the last 20 years. It's not even stagnation, but regression.
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>>739488884
>>739489183
>>739489995
You retards don't watch anime, you watch whatever ends up on crunchyroll and things people mention on here
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>>739478083
Action Adventure
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>>739488350
Idk about inability to distinguish reality from fiction.
I think it's a lack of sophistication of identity.
Anyone living through the early internet was able to give themselves a second online identity separate from their lived one, that allowed them to separate their ego out.
The internet used to be a place that you went to that was distant and people didn't know who you really were. You could do silly whimsical things and not have them linked to your real identity or ego.

I think that ability is rare in young people, I suspect because they were never taught how to do it or why it's important. They were just parachuted into social media without a preformed identity, so that's where their ego resides.

It's not that they're insane, they just take things too seriously and don't have a way to be whimsical or silly, unless it's authentic.
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>>739481571
why do you know this shit
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>>739479608
>mexicanorcs
Ay mijo...
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>>739471018
>satanic and perverted
This would downright summon the trannies
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>>739482059
CRPGs are shallow shit and always will be
>your character is just a blank slate, not a person. it doesn't feel anything for others, doesn't shout, yell, cry, swear vengeance, or show any emotion so as to accommodate the largest amount of outcomes possible. getting a love interest with emotional scenes (courting, bickering, reconciliation, etc.) at all is basically impossible
>it's not a real TTRPG (no freedom) yet at the same time the story beats aren't written. it's made as generic as possible to avoid the dreadful task of having to write the same story with subtle variations to account for minor differences in outcomes (e.g. everyone lauding you for taking out a bad guy early, everyone scorning you for your failure)
>all branches converge into the same ending or 2. again, this is to avoid having to write 20 different branches
they've got all the limitations of pre-written scenarios and none of the versatility of real TTRPGs, so they suck
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>>739476434
>Westoid
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>I love Nintendo™ but oh boy I sure hate japan!
What causes this????
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>>739490413
He was mentioned on the codex both before, for his reviews, and after for his massive spergrage.
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>>739489995
Crazy to use the words rote reputation after posting an image glorifying fucking Fist of the North Star.
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>>739470829
>these idealized drawings of people that don't exist trigger me so fucking hard and i don't even know why
It's because you're mentally ill. That's sadly the main thing. Whenever you see really unrealistically attractive looking people drawn by people who want wish fulfilment, you remember that you're a freak because you're a narcissistic piece of shit, behind all the victim language you use to attack media you cannot project yourself on, because you have to project yourself, otherwise you cannot empathize with others, unless they look like you.
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>>739478567
yamaguchi, im coming home
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>>739491202
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>>739492554
Yooo Black Narcissus (1947) matte painting spotted.
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>>739474375
Bottom right is actually cute
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>>739492921
tranny
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>>739470829
Because it’s usually done poorly to the point it clashes with the intended tone. If JRPGs looked like 80’s OVAs instead of moeshit, no one would complain.
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>>739470829
isnt' that fanart?
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>>739477275
>There's still some good western animation being made
PLEASE name some
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>>739490658
a perfectly sensible critique, but it ignores how blank slate everyman and lack of reactivity are issues with anything that attempts to focus on the story, that shit is just really fucking difficult to pull off
there's also "feature, not a bug" angle with voiceless adventurers, especially for games which emphasize the world and the combat (and not the character drama)
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>>739493695
I'll give you an example to illustrate the point in spades. diablo II (not a CRPG, but still...) is fun. collect loot, become stronger, number goes up, cheese the combat with your OP powers, become death incarnate, etc
the story is a great bonus, but it's 100% carried by the other characters. I don't really mind because the focus is squarely on the gameplay. however, the fact stands that there's no roleplaying. whether you're a barbarian, sorceress, druid, necromancer, assassin, paladin, etc. the game is the same. your character simply isn't really part of the world and your choices don't influence anyone beyond the results of a quest or 2. all you do is meet an objective to unlock the next story crumb
point is CRPGs basically feel like diablo II to me, so they fail as CRPGs
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>>739494010
>they fail as CRPGs
meant they fail as RPGs
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>>739470829
People who are demoralized are unable to appreciate an artistic style that values beauty and blablablah
Everyone knows that by now.
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>>739477275
>There's still some good western animation being made
May I see it?
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>>739470829
Jews
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>>739494010
>your choices don't influence anyone
And you are implying that in Japanese games they do? The genre of games where the deepest, most consequential moral question is "Did you understand all that? Yes/No"
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>>739494284
No.
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Zoomers watch anime. I'm -93 millenialfag and anime used to be considered extremely cringe.
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>>739494372
>whataboutism
>jap games don't pretend your choices matter but at least the character exists in the story
>meanwhile WRPGs do and they fail at it spectacularly
that's the crux of the issue
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>>739470829
I like anime but hate anime games
It doesn't help that they are also very juvenile
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>>739494010
>there's no roleplaying
honestly any time i hear the term associated with vidya, i always remember some retardation along the lines of "mario is an arrpeegee because you play the role of mario to save the princess"
i dunno what is it exactly you are looking for, guess you're saying something like "a limited piece of software cannot match the limitless imagination of a person, and so shouldn't even bother mimicking that with rpgs"
i myself am not expecting any of that, and there are also story-first games that don't have many numbers in them to consider, they tend to be derided for not being videogames at all
my favourite take on roleplaying vidya is something along the lines of kotor: a past set in stone and a certain path towards a future conclusion, but with some wiggle room for the player to express how he feels about it all in the present
that's a nice balance that doesn't require infinite time to handle combinatorical explosion of important consequences, while also giving the player (the illusion of) owning the player character in some capacity
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>>739487307
>Liar Game,
holy shit that got an adaption? Did they get the death note guy to do the soundtrack?
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>>739494757
The thread is literally about JRPGs and W/CRPGs, it's not whataboutism when you attack one with an argument that applies even more to the other side of the topic. Or it's not a valid argument to begin with, take your pick. As you said Diablo is not really a CRPG and there a tons of games where choice and consequence are done much better, have you actually played any of those? Obviously none of them are going to have the budget to create completely separate VN-like routes for the entire story and world, but there's choices in how to solve quests, choices in how to treat characters, choices in how to approach problems, and sometimes those choices affect the ending outcomes or epilogues.

This is nearly unheard of in JRPGs. And while I understand and agree with your argument about the player character not being as concrete as in JRPGs, that is kind of the RPG part, you're supposed to supply that yourself, in your head if playing games alone instead of pen-and-paper. In that sense you could say JRPGs are not really role-playing games at all, they are role-watching games.
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>>739478567
Small boobs supremacy
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>>739471836
>The west loves anime more than western comics nowadays.
Because anime can still be contaminated and they can pressure companies and even authors to adapt their works to the "western public": Gachiakuta. There's nothing to contaminate in western comics, which have been a pamphlet for over a decade. The disease has simply moved on to the next target.
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>>739496214
>There's nothing to contaminate in western comics, which have been a pamphlet for over a decade. The disease has simply moved on to the next target.
This pretty much encapsulates it. They absolutely DESTROYED western entertainment, it's a puddle of feces now, job done, no problematic content anymore, no? Nope.

Now they move on to foreign cultures in order to destroy those as well, because the "issue" wasn't diversity, wasn't racism, wasn't inclusivity, wasn't quotas, wasn't even sexism, the issue was that out there, there are people who are free to create whatever they want.
If you think about it, they've won in the western games industry because it's been reduced to putrid vomit, and it's dying now or already dead, exactly what they said they wanted all along, so the mission should be accomplished and they should go home to slurp all the fecal matter western studios are producing now. They didn't "want their own" or "products that cater to them", they just wanted to kill, mutilate, maim and destroy.
They're interested in the process, not the outcome. It's the means that matter, not the end, because the purpose all along was pure destruction, because they're spiteful mutants who hate other people who aren't them.
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>>739470829
Because:
>they remember pearl harbor
>theyre not trans
>theyre not manchildren
>theyre not kids
>theyre not stupid
>theyre not tasteless
>theyre just not into it
Not everyone has to like anime, nigger.
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>>739498758
You forgot they dont hate themselves for being white. And they dont want to disappoint their parents, and theyre not pedophiles.
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What do anime style graphics haters even play anyways?
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>>739470829
>Is anyone else seeing all these hot children?
big resetera energy
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>>739498758
Having an irrational hatred of an artstyle to the point that it makes you "physically ill" and you can't even begin to coherently describe what exactly about it you don't like sounds like stupid manchildren tranny behavior if you ask me. Probably why western left-wing troons are the number 1 detractors of it not supporters of it, despite what sharteens say.
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Whos gonna tell him
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>>739498758
The guy in question is a libshit hillary clinton worshipper who lives off the government, has no children and is extremely stupid and tasteless and he hates japs.
>b-but muh pearl harbor
>USS Liberty what's that?
Die.
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the anti-anime crusade has always been about insecurity and virtue signalling. people are afraid of being associated with annoying weeaboos or being criticized for liking "gay anime shit" so they have to be extra vocal about how they don't like it and how that one thing from japan they did like is totally not like the rest. even now that anime is completely mainstream you now have the "anime is pedophilia" angle so people will still go out of their way to tell you how much they're not into it.
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>>739498886
>white
seamonkeys and jeets unironically using the word "westoid" will never be white
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>>739477532
>who can't scrape past the surface
There is nothing beyond the surface
That's why Japanese fiction takes from the surface level of western culture, fiction and mythology and gets confused when it offends
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>>739501517
>when it offends
Never happened.
You have to be human to take offense.
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>>739488884
it's funny because Ippo is just as much of a beta faggot as the guy next to him, if not even more of one considering he STILL hasn't fucked Kumi after all these years.



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