Seriously what went so fucking wrong? Remember when everyone couldn’t wait for them to leave Activision?
>>739497741Talentless dev thrown money at and hyped with advertising. Making amerifilth defend it and pretend to enjoy it.Don't post 343 chief either. That is asctually a good design from a good game. And has nothing to do with the dogshit that is bungies excuse for an excuse for an excuse drag and drop empty games.
>>739498250They have great gunplay though
>>739498250You're fucking retarded, look at early Bungie days like Marathon and Pathways into Darkness. Bungie were one of the best fucking devs out there with the best storylines in FPS back in the day, even og Halo trilogy had a great story
>Bungie hit their peak with the Halo series>made great single player campaigns and literally said they had a "party game" philosophy with multiplayer, where it was suppose to be easy to get into with plenty of content and options>peaked at Halo 3 with forge and theater mode introduced offering tons of community content sharing while having plenty of dev made playlists for easy quick play>Bungie moved on Destiny>endless grind and hard content specifically made for the top 1% of players became the new normal>no more forge mode, community content was now just youtube videos>philosophy shifted away from "party game" to being an "investment", you had to play Bungie's way or not at all>10 years of this>Marathon comes out>Bungie no longer even remembers what made Halo special, Marathon becomes another "investment" game always online game catering to Destiny PvP players>Marathon bombs catering to no lifers with endless grind and restricted 3v3 PvP modes when the original Marathon was nothing like that at all
>>739497741I spoke with an "Associate Producer" who was working on the Crash Team Racing remake on a Discord back when this happened who told me that from her POV it was because Activision kicked them out, not the other way around. They were clogging up Activision's QA team by being uncooperative and wasting everybody's time, and there was a feeling on the Activision side that Bungie thought of themselves like "rockstars", so basically everyone who had to work with them from Acti thought they were arrogant morons who were impossible to work with, and filed a lot of complaints to their management about it.This ramped up over time along with D2 not going the way Activision originally wanted, and Bungie insisting on making Seasonal stuff instead of follwoing the original "Relase -> Comet -> Release" structure, so everything considered Activision initiated the split, from what I understand, and everyone in Activision was happy. Bungie probably was too, but they didn't have to fight to get free from Activision. They were kind of forced to do it.
>>739497741BasicallyOnce Bungie teamed with Activision they double crossed Marty and fired him and tried to steal his stock optionsHe took them to court and won millions, after this a lot of Bungie veteran producers and lead devs quitPete Parsons, an ex Microsoft employee eventually became CEO and destroyed what was left by firing as many old devs with stock optionsthe Bungie of today might as well be a different studio than the one that made original Marathon, Myth and Halo
>>739500457>>endless grind and hard content specifically made for the top 1% of players became the new normalThis says so much about their rebalancing updates for Marathon. Most of them only actually help the top players.
>>739498250>Don't post 343 chief either. That is asctually a good design from a good game.
>>739501005Bobby Kotick was right again
>>739501410about?
>>739501492The industry as a whole, how these people need deadlines and accountability and can’t just run a studio how you please
>>739497741The fanbase has always been incredibly retarded on top of everything else. Like the most casual idiotic slop suckers in the vidya industry.The writing has been on the wall for so long but Destiny 2 fans always looked for something to scapegoat. Expansion sucks ass and Bungie bleeding money? Shit it must be 100% the fault of Pete Parsons, the developers barely working and putting out utter trash is just a coincidence.Bungie clearly abandoning Destiny 2 to make Marathon? Shit they're actually using Marathon to recoup money so it can go back into Destiny, we all need to support Marathon guys!Marathon very obviously being a low effort shit game with nothing going for it? Shit guys it must be because...This type of mentality has been going on for like 4 years at this point. Every single time the idiot fanbase refuses to hold Bungie accountable for their actions. Praise them for adding LGBT garbage to the game while simultaneously dropping one of the shittiest expansions ever. Look past the fact that the last 3 expansions have all been bad but don't care because of this, that or the other thing. Continue to spend money on trash and whales continuing to dump $100s of dollars into the MTX store for absolute slop that they will use for less than a week.Is it the fanbases fault everything went to shit? No, but they sure as fuck didn't help. I NEVER witnessed good feedback or ideas from the fanbase in my years and years of playing, whether from Reddit or streamers or whatever. Utter idiots. If you were surprised at all this was coming you're a fucktard.
I'm having fun with Marathon so no problem for me. But then again, I actually play games instead of shitposting for three months about games I don't play.
>>739497741They became a single game studio that hit the point of having both a second game in development and a CEO squeezing them so he could buy more cars.All successful media products and sustain one parasite but most cannot sustain two.
>>739501691Im having way more fun going back to d2 than I ever did in marathon
>>739499353>"great gunplay">look inside>it's aim assist
Not a single person that worked at the original company is there now and it's filled to the brim with women, jeets, and soibois, most of which are very adamant about hating guns and combat and they are more concerned about social justice than making games. The BlackRock money is gone now, so they're dying.
>>739500457>Bungie no longer even remembers what made Halo special. 20 years happened.
>>739502137Wish I could play the first half of D2. There's no point for new players to even try that game.
>>739502532Bungie bragged they do have OG bungie devs working on marathon.
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>>739504980The silliest part is that there actually was. Most of Destiny 2's development however was a revolving door of around 300-400 developers with most of them on short contracts or otherwise worked on one facet and moved on. That's why the game is a Frankenstein monster in terms of tone, consistency and gameplay elements. In comparison most of Marathon was born in a vacuum of core devs with longer tenure yet it's always mistaken as being the project that had only new devs. Shiek kind of commented on that when it was already mentioned back in 2023 and the initial pitch and vision was pretty much thrown out there by the studio veterans, especially on the tech and art side of things.
Wheres my nikka Pete Parsons?
>>739501614>Shit it must be 100% the fault of Pete ParsonCorrect, glad we can agree that as it's been made abundantly clear, that it's been leadership failures that lead to the issue. There's no room for speculation, all it takes is a matter of looking at the names listed in developer credits to see how it all lead up to this point. It's verifiably proven that Destiny's downturn started with Bungie leadership deciding to fracture their studio teams from focusing on their core product, to a multitude of projects in different stages of pre-production. It's also verifiably proven that Bungie was looking for a buyer from both the rumors that swirled during MS acquisition spree of buying Bungie back (which were turned down because Bungie, that is to say, Pete, was demanding too high an asking price) and by the fact that eventually Pete did manage to find his sucker to buy his studio.It's not uncommon for any company looking to sell to prop themselves up in order to inflate the asking price. That's why Elder Scrolls 6 was announced as early as it was, just like Bungie in the 2020s, Zenimax in the late 2010s was looking to sell and made those announcements in order to juice their asking price, even if what was being promised was no where close to the reality of what was being actually offered.Stop being a dipshit and getting distracted by culture war slop and start attacking the real issue, which is that there is an institutionalized incentive by CEOs to come in, strip companies down for parts in order to meet revenue targets for their corporate bonuses and then leave once they've gotten paid for the next schmuck to deal with the consequences. This same exact practice is exactly why the GameStop CEO was trying to buy Ebay with over a billion paid in debt. If he got his way he would meet his revenue targets to maximize his contract's bonus payout and then leave for the next CEO to deal with the crippling interest payments on that debt.
>>739506412What a great country we live in
>>739506492If it makes you feel any better, if enough younger people actually go out and vote, you can push for a genuine change on all of this. Like 10K boomers die every day in America at this point. If younger people actually came out and voted at the rates that the boomers keeping this train going you could see a genuine referendum on these types of practices over the next decade. They are outnumbered by population, it's only that they managed to convince generations of young people that their votes dont matter when they in fact do, and can vote to get the proper solutions to these problems if they just went out to do it.
>>739503470I wonder if the high point of D2 (Forsaken) is even playable now.People that weren't around for its launch how big of a fucking deal that expansion was and how it basically saved Destiny 2.
>>739497741woke
>>739510389Woke like being up and alive?
>>739497741One of the few things Microsoft did right was drop Bungie after Reach.
>>739498250>That is asctually a good design from a good gameno, if you think that you are genuinely retarded. every single previous iteration is superior.
>>739511004Destiny was fun
They lucked out on Halo being the first great console FPS. Destiny was not as successful as they were initially hoping but got enough paypigs to sustain their business as all the people who made Halo great left.Marathon was a reverse-engineered solution. They knew they needed to make a new game, looked around, saw extraction shooters were a niche but growing genre with paypig potential that hadn't hit the mainstream yet, and decided they were going to be the ones to get it there.
>>739513169What happened to the 10 year destiny plan?
Here's the truth you faggots will never realize;#1, Bungie went to shit around Halo 3 and never recovered. I know a lot of you are pretenders that only got an Xbox after 2007, but Halo 3's campaign was terrible and the multiplayer was a step back from 1 and 2.#2, Halo Reach was the point of no return, it was a garbage game in all aspects and set the studio up for a decade of failure.#3, Destiny was an embarrassment, a shallow game with copy pasted objectives and carrot on a stick mechanics designed for the dumbest of retards.#4, and last but not least; no company on this planet can retain talent and passion for almost three decades and still put out the same products. Bungie is Bungie in name only. Every significant person, except maybe one or two people, are gone.
>>739512640I would argue that the MK6 in Halo 2 and 3 both look better than the MK5.It looks like proper armor plating but doesn't look as bulky and hunched as 1 due to the helmet looking in proportion with the difference being whether you like more grungy and sharp or clean and rounded detail work.4 just looks ugly however, no clean definition between the plating and under suit with to much bulky plating makes it look like a bad carapace.But for me it comes down to that I like the Spartan Armor to look like the Spartan can do a kickflip in it instead of being just a pure tank.
>>739497741Bungie are genuinely retarded and need to be tard wrangled into actually producing anything.
>>739497741Destiny’s aesthetic switched from sci-fi dystopian to fantasy faggotry
>>739500457>Bungie no longer even remembers what made Halo specialThe infinite MS marketing budget? The HARD push to associate Halo with Xbox?
>>739502389Fucking finally somone gets it. Console FPS niggers don't want to play the game they just want to hold both triggers to see "+500 points, rank up, new battplug skin unlocked"
>>739498250fpbpundeniable trvke nvke
>>739497741Martyfags won.Warframe won.The Division 2 won.
>>739502702Halo was a product of passion. The developers weren't merely working putting in their 9-5 hours and going home. They lived vidya every waking moment. They worked all day, then at night they would play the game they were working on. They played the game and figured out what was fun and what wasn't. I really don't think developers by and large do this anymore. What comes to mind is the lead dungeon designer for Diablo IV going on youtube and showing she had no idea how to play her own game.
>>739516346How the fuck is Warframe still a thing?
>>739497741Companies never get better when they're bought out by larger companies.
>>739514914>#1, Bungie went to shit around Halo 3 and never recovered.2 actually. Being completely retarded during H2 development killed their desire to actually put any passion into Halo ever again, and also wiped out all their non-Halo projects.>when you spend years working around a lighting system that doesn't work with exterior environments and can't run on the hardware you are making the game for>no one pulled the plug on this until e3 2003 because they hoped they would find the magic bullet
>>739498250Destiny was such a head scratcher to me. I don't know how many times a new expansion would come out and every one screaming they fixed everything. Did you guys just play a shit game from start to finish for 10+ years?
>>739516556I'm currently 25 and I have been mulling it over for years. The time didn't feel right for many of those years. But now, it feels appropriate. With D2 having its last update in June, I feel I need to immortalize it on my skin. I have drawn mock ups for the design for a while and finally settled on one. I had a back and forth with family over me getting my first tattoo and it being Destiny themed. A lot of people questioned why I would tattoo a game on me. And over these past few days, my answer is clear. It's because of y'all. Whether it's everyone coming together to reminisce or people defiantly saying, "no, we want the game to live", I have become so proud to be a part of Destiny. We have people literally making petitions and writing letters to the head of SIE in order to greenlight a Destiny 3. And while the chances are incredibly slim, I can't help but be inspired and completely in awe. This is why I'm getting a Destiny tattoo, not because the game is dying but because so many want it to live. I'll provide updates as I go through the process. It will probably be a while (I gotta amass the funds and such). Thank you for reading my spiel
>>739516375>Halo was a product of passion.Only 1 was, sort of. 2 started out as that too but Jason Jones got bored a couple of months in and left to go to China for years while the studio was leaderless and imploding.They were checked out for 3 and ODST/Reach were contractual obligations.
>>739497741They've never made a good game. The only thing they had going for them was world building and not even that anymore.
>>739516720Halo 2 was passion. They literally invented modern online gaming (for better and worse). Proximity chat, clan systems, matchmaking, etc.
>>739516389The Old Director Steve who was really ambitious but ended up releasing those ambitious ideas in a super buggy state moved on to work on their own Marathon, Soulframe.Then the community director Rebecca moved up to the directors seat and refocused the game towards QoL and polish.So you have all the ambitious ideas Steve made now in a playable state alongside a steady stream of new less ambitious but not as game breaking content.And so its been slowly clawing back its marketshare for a few years now.
>>739516892Are there any actual missions and story shit? or is it all those defend an area mission for the 300th time?
>>739516556Yes, the "fixed it" cycle was real and relentless. Bungie would ship a version of destiny that was hollow, the community would rebel, then a major update would get pushed that fixed things. then the cycle repeats with the next expansion. They kept resetting the baseline to shit to then they fix the issue they created.
>>739516389>>739516892honestly it all boiled down to the fact that Warframe has a community livestream like clockwork while all their competitors dont so alot of retarded shit gets aborted before anyone sees it and it curdles into resentment.
>>739516954There is a story (there has been one for years but it only kicks in around Uranus in terms of gameplay progression) with varied quests and objectives added in since then but the Defense Mission are still there.Tje games biggest issue is that the powercreep has gotten so bad despite adding superbosses the endgame can be broken over ones knee if they know what they are doing.And they can't fix it otherwise the Chinese playerbase will try and murder them.Also cool musichttps://youtu.be/bNNl8VOjbcYhttps://youtu.be/BjL2r2FoYcMhttps://youtu.be/aqtsrZsCmj0
>>739516862Please don't tell me you think a game from 2004 invented proximity chat and clans.
>>739516556During my early 20s my whole world fell apart and for years I was battling depression and suicidal thoughts but even though I was home all day I was playing destiny making friends and as stupid as it sounds knowing there would be a next chapter in the destiny story kept me wanting to stick around more and the enjoyment I got from raiding with my friends every week was the small source of happiness I had while trying to rebuild my life. I remember the night it finally clicked to me that I wouldn't let it take my life and joy and finally decided it was time to get up but throughout that whole process destiny was there keeping me distracted from doing stuff id regret later or falling into addictions id have to later battle. Im old now (30s) and I haven't played destiny since the final shape because of work primarily and while im still friends with my group none of us are playing destiny and have even shifted away from gaming but id lie if I said I wasn't hoping a destiny 3 would come one day so I could atleast have a glimpse of what I had during that time. I know the devs get alot of hate but I believe they love this game as much as we do but unfortunately the ones in power are the ones who make the calls and they don't care about you or me or the art.
>>739500457Destiny made way more and was played by more people.
>>739517369You're a retard. It's not just about the features themselves but also how they were integrated with the game, the website, etc.It was fully fleshed out and set the standard for the next 20 years.
>>739516556I remember getting destiny and playing it, and then the DLCs would come out and each one would cost the price of a full game and so I didn't bother buying any of that. I decided that the financial cost of playing Destiny just wasn't worth it and so I forgot about the game. I have no idea about the lore or story beyond the base of the original game
>>739517764How poor are you?
>>739516720>They were checked out for 3 and ODST/Reach were contractual obligations.and they were still better than anything they've released since
>>739513507What happened to the 10 year plan 13 years later?
>>739517792It's not that i'm poor, or that I was poor, I just am not wasting money like that. It is also an insult to charge that much and It is my duty to not reward such greed
>>739517824>lets argue over the best turd in the sewerthey're all shit
>>739497741Gaylo was never good. I played CE for the first time recently and it was legitimately shit.
>>739513507Activision got burned by how shitty Bungie was and let them walk out of a 10 year 3 game contract which is actually insane when you think about it. Contracts are the hardest metal on earth and Bungie walked right out of one like tissue paper.
>>739517930Nah he's right. 3, ODST and Reach were peak vidya
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>>739517957you played the butchered MCC version and think your opinion is worth anything. no
>>739518058Yeah, if you were 9 years old and your Xbox 360 was your first console. Fuck off.
>>739497741All the talent that made Halo great left a long time ago
>>739518176I was a teenager and my first console was ps1. Cope and seethe
>>739517957>Gaylo was never goodTRVTHNVKEHalo was only ever considered good by amerimutt children who couldn't afford a PC and had never played an FPS game in their life. For comparison, when Halo came out PC already had games like UT99, Quake 3, CS, Tribes, Rainbow Six, Delta Force, Half-Life, Team Fortress Classic, Alien vs Predator, Medal of Honor, SWAT 3, Soldier of Fortune, etc.
>>739517957>played a 25 year old game for a console 6 generations agoIt was better than almost everything else at the time. If you were alive then you would get that.
>>739497741what I'm curious about is how microsoft managed to tard wrangle them so effectively for so long. even the divisive titles like ODST and Reach were miles better than anything else Bungie has done since
>>739518304>It was better than almost everything else at the timePreemptively proven wrong by the post right above yours.
>>739518261>who couldn't afford a PC and had never played an FPS game in their life.I was playing Quake, Unreal Tournament, Battlefield, C&C Renegade, and others, at the time too; Halo was still good. Elitist PC fags like yourself like to beat your chests about muh superior machine, but the truth is you couldn't afford a console. Multi system chads like myself enjoyed them all.
>>739518261A pc that could run those games was cheaper than an xboxhueg. None of those games had seamless vehicle use, or any vehicles at all. Their campaigns were almost all single player. Their multiplayer was garbage. I'm sorry you missed out a childhood with friends
>>739502389Yes. Aim assist is required for good feeling gunplay.
>>739497741Microsoft having court files from the late 2000’s explaining how they thought owning Bungie would be a disaster (and those files not going public until the last few years) is fucking hilarious in retrospect My guess is it’s been nonstop drama behind the scenes with their management from the start and that Microsoft and Activision having them on a leash is what kept them working properly. You can have good devs and still be a shitshow of a studio and that seems to describe Bungie for most of their history. With the shackles removed they got rid of most of the remaining talent, did something they wouldn’t have before (not make D3, make a dangerously experimental AAA game in Marathon), the rest is history.Sony gave them too much leeway, they should’ve been skeptical that throwing that much at Marathon while ignoring Destiny was a bad idea.
>>739518398Every title in that post is worse than Halo. There's a reason they never became popular, even when they released on consoles.
>>739518478>Halo was still goodWhat made it good? Explain yourself.>but the truth is you couldn't afford a consoleYeah, I couldn't afford a $300 console despite having a $2000 computer, a PS1, a PS2 and an N64. You definitely got me.
>>739518507>None of those games had seamless vehicle use, or any vehicles at allClearly didn't play Tribes.>Their multiplayer was garbageJust for the record, you are calling UT99, Quake 3, CS, Tribes, Rainbow Six, Team Fortress, Medal of Honor and SWAT multiplayer "garbage" despite them literally being considered some of the best multiplayer FPS games of all time? The Halo child mind is wild.>I'm sorry you missed out a childhood with friendsGoldeneye 007 was infinitely more enjoyable than Halo when it came to a console FPS game. If you don't recognize that, maybe YOU were the one without friends.
>>739518576>There's a reason they never became popularThis has to be bait.
>>739518750>What made it good? Explain yourself.The game is three decades old. No matter what I say it's just going to go through one ear and out the other. Like the game, hate the game; I don't care, but please stop larping as muh epic PC gamer. You're a fraud.
Lightning in a bottle, OP. A return to form. Blasts have been had.
>>739519031>The game is three decades old. No matter what I say it's just going to go through one ear and out the other. What does the age of the game have to do with anything? I listed a ton of old games right here >>739518261 Or is this just you tucking you tail between your legs, because you know that Halo wasn't actually that good, so you have no real arguments?>but please stop larping as muh epic PC gamer. You're a fraud.I literally just said I had a PS1, PS2 and N64 and I enjoyed them very much. I also enjoyed NES and SNES at friends houses but never had those myself.
>>739519150The age of the game matters because nothing I say will convince you of anything. There is no reality where I say magic words and you suddenly come to respect Halo because you are already set in your opinion that has been formed for three decades now.
>>739519290Notice how I am literally giving you an honest opportunity for a real discussion to be had, and you are still completely unable to form a single actual argument or reasoning for why you think Halo was/is good.
>>739519389First of all I don't care to convince you of anything, I was just calling you out for being the larper you are. Secondly, stop pretending I have any chance of convincing you of anything. You have disliked the game for 30 years, even if it was the greatest game on earth, what could anyone say to shake your opinion? There is no good faith here.
>>739519558>still not a single argument, yet he keeps postingJust tuck your tail between your legs and run away like the coward you are.>There is no good faith here.If there was no good faith, why do you think I keep replying to you and urging you to have an honest discussion with me? There would be no fucking point in me replying to you repeatedly if I wasn't interested in hearing your actual arguments. The funniest thing is that there are some things that I do actually think Halo did well, so we might even agree on some of them, but you are too afraid of even having a genuine discussion.
>>739518912>tribes How does Tribes campaign compare to Halo's? Split screen co-op or pvp? Oh yeah...You're looking back on all those titles heavily scewed. None of them alone have nearly as many gameplay types as Halo did back in 01. You have to cut and snip bits and pieces from half those titles to get a single-player/co-op split screen campaign, vehicles that aren't standalone sections, vehicles in pvp, multiple pvp gamemodes, 4 player split screen, etc. TF and CS are good pvp games, but that is all they are. Unreal tournament is a hero shooter no different from overwatch or concord. Quake was a shitty doom successor. Goldeneye was a great time for sure, but the controls were hot garbage, and it was very unpolished.
>>739519821>there are some things that I do actually think Halo did well,I didn't even have to post any points and I won. And I wasn't even trying to convince you. I accept your concession. Thanks for playing.
Halofags if you game was so good, why did it fall the instant there was actually a competitor on Xbox?
>>739519979>Unreal tournament is a hero shooter no different from overwatch or concordYou never even played UT99 and it shows. Not even gonna take you serious in any capacity.>>739519996>I didn't even have to post any points and I wonWhat did you win? Just because a game has SOME good things doesn't mean that it's a good game overall. My point is that I agree that Halo's story, writing and dialogue is relatively good, but that those things could have literally existed in any other game as well. The writing could have been in an RTS game instead of an FPS game, for example.
>>739520179>player numbers = qualityHow many hours do you have in Fortnite?
>>739520179343 halo was garbage is why. No competitor ever came close to touching Halo 1-3. Reach is where it all started going south, because they were just scamming MS out of development funds so they could make Destiny, and Reach was just a trial run for that engine build.
>>739497741Destiny: Rise of Iron released in 2016, that's when it's so fucking wrong.It's like watching how blizzard turn to shit.
>>739517764I lapsed out of Destiny during the original content draught after Curse of Osiris and i legitimately cannot tell you anything about the story at all. Played hundreds of hours of Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 btw. They stole the game out from under me when they dropped Bnet as a distributor and never gave a fuck about it since.
>>739520454And pray tell, what series was Reach trend chasing? What happened between 2007 and 2010?
>>739521225nta but they added sprinting because of CoD which fucked up the gameplay flow between guns, melee, and grenades
>>739520232You're right, ut99 was the moba, one of the other ones in your list was the hero shooter, it's been so long i just don't care to remember.
>>739521225Reach was adding CoD features that Halo didn't have, but those were also features they were planning for Destiny. At the time, everyone accused bungie of CoDifying Halo when they released Reach.
>>739497741They started hiring gays and women who began destroying the integrity of the IP right around the time Shadowkeep released.
>>739500457>no more forge modeIt's so fucking funny how long I actually held my breath about this bungie coming back and maybe adding forge and custom games into Destiny. I pretty much gave up the idea during Rise of Iron but then when curse of osiris revealed the infinite forest I genuinely thought to my retarded fucking self "Hmm, maybe this means they're gonna try adding a crucible mapmaker to the game, the assets seem perfect for something like that"
>>739517369NTA but he's partially right, Halo 2 was the first console game to have its own real messaging system with both text and voice which is what the 360's comms system was inspired by, and a real clan feature with a page that showed all of your members and their ranks. IIRC Rainbow Six allowed you to have clan tags but it didn't function as an actual group.
>>739497741Bungie is the gamedev equivalent of that one person who keeps getting into relationships with abusive people, and never seems to learn from it. >"Microsoft isn't letting me pursue my creative interests and just wants me to pump out Halo forever">Jumps into bed with Activision>"Activision is stifling me">Jumps into bed with SnoyYou lose sympathy after a certain point.
>>739522840except they're not abusive and are just trying to help it because they're like a BPD bitch that won't stop trying to cut herself or jump off the balcony
>>739522716>Halo 2 was the first console game to have its own real messaging system with both text and voice which is what the 360's comms system was inspired by, and a real clan feature with a page that showed all of your members and their ranksPhantasy Star Online had all of that and more, 4 years before Halo 2, except voice chat.
>>739498250>Don't post 343 chief either. That is asctually a good design from a good gamewhat the fuck am i reading
Halo 4 had the best MP
>>739517989>get a shitty contract saying you have to work for 10 years>don't like it, so just sit around on my ass>contract jew gets uppity, starts bleeding money since his poor investment skills are coming back to bite him>doesn't want to lose any more face. cuts me free>all I had to do was nothing
>>739497741Bungie is just a company name. The people who made the games you love were no longer there.
>>739522983Ah yeah you're totally right>>739523062Why do you believe that lol
>>739517989Never really thought about it that much but holy shit yeah. Even during their "prime" when Halo was at it's peak they couldn't get out of MS completely free (they owned 2 more games), whereas they just walked from Activision.
>>739523143Dunno it was the one I had the most fun with, between playing bo2
>>739497741Things were honestly well and truly fucked at Bungie well before Activision.
>>739523263Honestly I think I played it for like a month and put it down forever which was a first for me for a halo game. I ended up liking H5's multiplayer way more
>>739497741>343i Master Chief in the picture
>>739497741troonificationcorporate bsoriginal devs going awaytake your pick
>>739522983Voice chat is arguably the biggest component of that communication hub.
>>739524897I don't disagree. The ability to send voice memos was also fucking amazing on 360 and enabled a fuckton of hilarious moments.
>>739523750she's so frumpy and cute
>>739513169Destiny hit gold with it's first update what is this revisionism? Literal billion dollar IP 2x. Instead of focusing on becoming efficient they blew the company up to the point that it needed to make a quarter billion per year just to comfortably stay in business. Then Bungie kept looking for publishers to fund their wideload lardass 1000+ dev count shitheap, ran through everybody possible, ended up at Sony.
Posted this earlier.Talked to a former producer in 2024 and learned how bloated the numbers were for suit heads.
>>739497741Yeah, absolute fucking retardsBungie has made 0 good games
>>739497741I remember when they left Activision and since the servers depended on them the game didn't work for like an entire week, yeah
the work of 200 employees being split between 1000 employeesthe economy going down the shitterabusing destiny 2 for maximum profitability, narrative writers using destiny 2 seasonal content as an outlet for their daddy issues / therapy, blaming managment whenever they fucked up a dlc, wasting their time on streamers who all didnt actually contribute to the series
>>739528051Lmao, you are a fucking moron
>>739528325POOR NIGGER SPOTTEDATTENTION ATTENTIONPOOR NIGGER SPOTTED
>>739497741Like every westerners or Americans problem, it's star syndrome. They feel invincible, the fact that americans love to lick each other asses also doesn't help.
>>739514914redpill of doom
>>739514914actually one company i can think off where #4 is not true is double fine studios
I really dislike when people suggest other games like Warframe, which might be a good game in its own right, but it is not like destiny at all.The closest I would compare destiny 2 is a game like world of warcraft but a first person shooter. But even then the comparison falls short.Destiny is literally its own genre, the only game that exists like it on the market, and letting that die is a travesty.And as I post this Bungies other new game has 10k on steam, destiny has 17k, and as we also know 80% of its player base on steam while D2 is more like 20% on steam.This game shutting down is honestly the biggest travesty of the gaming industry potentially ever, and at this rate us guardians will never find a replacement.It's just so sad. An overwhelming feeling of melancholy.
>>739516667i hope thats a copypasta because thats just about the saddest thing ive read in this site
>>739529629Its called passion and liking things, try it sometime.
TOP SELLERS TODAYDestiny 2: 69Marathon: 209DAUDestiny 2: 144Marathon: 163CCUDestiny 2: 17,708Marathon: 9,898TWITCHDestiny 2: 2.8kMarathon: 1.9k
>>739530817And?
>>739530909Keep seething marashill
>>739532095Marathon blows. I still play d2 nightly though
>>739497741Not enough cooking and knitting classes. https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-devs-say-atmosphere-is-soul-crushing-amid-layoffs-cuts-and-fear-of-total-sony-takeover
>>739498250>Don't post 343 chief either. That is asctually a good design from a good game.Hvly fvarking bvsed!
>>739528502It's really funny how often a "senior game dev from massively successful studio leaves to form their own!" and people hype it up as it's going to be the next big blockbuster.And it's just a flop or the studio vanishes before it produces anything.It's happened with a bunch of Blizzard, Rockstar, Bungie, ect devs.
>>739533058Wasn’t Minds Eye ok?
>>739513169>They lucked out on Halo being the first great console FPS.Turok and Goldeneye 007 were on the N64
>>739497741They went from >pozzed by George Sorosto>pozzed by Blackrockhope this helps, they want to kill aspirational storytelling and popular male demographic IPs, straight up. no destiny 3 was ever in development. no halo. it was all sony's concord 2, marathon.
>>739534901Yes and?
>>739516375>I really don't think developers by and large do this anymoreThat's because AAA developers are assembly lines. Most of the devs don't have any creative input into the game. They are assigned extremely simple work items in a very narrow, specific scope that often is so abstracted away from the finished product it hardly even feels like they're working on a game.
>>739500774Hilarious that if they had stayed with Activision they'd have been part of a massive Microsoft buyout, instead they got snapped up by Sony for only 4 billions, which is probably getting written down after D2 EoS and Marathon bellyflopping
>>739535001Don't forget most of Sony's acquisitions were meant to hurt Steam. Steam bore the brunt of the backlash when PSN forced registration on the platform which took Helldivers 2 away from hundreds of thousands of players. They didn't have to do that, but they wanted to put a squeeze on Steam. They've been after Gabe's empire this time.
>>739501005Not even remotely true lol
>>739535241The people that made the Sony deal are all leaving with tens of millions, some of them hundreds of millions. They'll be just fine.
