Bungie is going all in on Marathon in order to turn the ship around and make it profitable. How should they go about it?>singleplayer campaign>PvE modes What else?
>>739503159Bungie are about to fuck up this IP in exactly the same way they fucked Destiny. They "experimented" with Destiny with the introduction of the portal and the new levelling system. Even though the levelling system turned out to be a better option, the balancing on top of the portal and lack of activities at launch cost them the game. I'm a casual player and suck at PvP so avoid it to save myself the frustration. "Experimenting" with the introduction of PvE with the final line being "we'll see how it's received before we commit" isn't enough for me to buy the game. I'm not buying into a game where the features I'm buying it for could ultimately be dropped leaving me with a title that just sits on a digital shelf... And we all know it's not going to be received well from the PvP community. This is a desperate attempt to sell a few more copies and whichever way it goes they're going to piss off one of the two communities they're trying to target at the same time.
Put in a real story with straightforward progression, it can still be the same kinds of dumb quests the factions offer but they need to tie together in a logical way and advance a plot so they have something they can do to feel like they're "beating" the game.Put more to explore in the maps, right now you can easily see everything there is to see most points of interest on your first visit which makes revisiting them unexciting.Have more loot even if it's not meaningfully different so players can feel like they're actually seeing different things every run, seeing the same guns every time is boring.
>>739503159some things are not worth saving
>>739503159>PvE Modes*PvE ModeHuge problem Marathon has at the moment is that they keep coming up with all of these different game modes that splits the queues up more and more and makes queue times longer and longer and longer.>Sponsored kits only on (x) map>Ranked on (x) map>Duos on (x) map>4 Seperate queues for each map>3 seperate queues for solo versions of those mapsThe main reason we have sharp drop offs is because people just get fed up with waiting and log off for the day. It doesn't help also when people get attatched to these specific modes and then Bungie axes them after a week, since that's how I lost my duo partner who dropped the game after I had to tell him it's not coming back until Season 2. Not saying Bungie shouldn't do these since people do like some, but it's not really reading the room. We don't have the numbers currently to be fucking around with experimental queues.Anyway as for actual changes>Rework the armoury so the selection isn't so limited and the economy makes senseAll the guns should be unlockable and purchaseable with credits. Force people to choose which guns they want to unlock for the season through Traxus and make it irreverisble until a wipe happens. Make it so the daily stock for items are increased, and make more implants readily available instead of the current limited selection. Charge extra credits or something, I don't care, just let me try to do cool build ideas.>Let the faction reps be more presentONI is just a glorified timer now that I've done all the priority contracts. I miss _gantry and how giddy he was. I miss being shit talked by Orion. Find a way to incorporate them into "casual runs". If we earn faction rep, let one of them chime in on the comms to thank me, and if I do something annoying to the UESC Orion should be threatening to dox my neural synch location.>More events on the mapThere's no reason to go to Perimeter or Dire Marsh unless you NEED to go there. Change that.
>>739503159Remodel the base shells so they look closer to the short film. Especially Triage, he's a Traxus bot, make him look like the other Traxus bots with an exaggerated mask on instead of looking like a gorilla.>change the lighting system in the game, again to make it look less flat and more like the promo shots. I don't even think it supports ray tracing >UI/armoury/readability need a fix>more story contracts, Arachne has none>bigger maps, return to the DayZ vision, let some maps be small and timer heavy while others are bigger and play more like a scavenger open world MMO instead of valorant
>>739503159Marathon already has the stink of failure on it after it's shit launch and general negative opinion from the public. Gonna be hard to come back from that bad first impression. Are there any examples of games with similar circumstances that have managed to redeem themselves in the public eye?
I ain't playing this crap, fuck off snoyjeet marketer
>>739506104No Man's Sky is the most common example
>>739503159Time machine. That's it. They ran the budget up so high for so little that there is no way to pull a NMS here and have books look good. They need to find something like 8 million sales a full price with their existing expenses just to get out of the red, and any work they do to try and draw sales will dig the hole deeper.Marathons life span hinges entirely on how long snoy is willing to keep the game in an iron lung
>>739505397>hat splits the queues up more and more and makes queue times longer and longer and longer.I've literally never had to wait longer than a minute ever, you're just making shit up you actual liar
>>739503159not looking fucking ugly for one. robo floyd is not keeping those skin sales up
>>739506389>No Man's Skyincomparable. No man's sky is not a live service game with very high monthly costs so you have room to fix and experiment
>>739506104Darktide maybe, it was pretty abysmal at launch, and while it still has a lot of problems, it's clearly sold well and a lot of people love it.
>>739506928still worse than rat game though, utterly soulless
>>739503159>Marathon, but PvE!That's a great idea. Why didn't they think of that before? They could have a REALLY popular game with that gunplay, art direction that strong, and a focus on story and PvE, with PvP on the side. They could have made billions off an IP like that.
>>739507013This has been what Bungie does since Destiny. They release broken garbage and the entire life cycle of the game is devoted to "fixing" it and D2 was even worse for this. They waste so much fucking time remaking the game after release because of their cancerous train mentality and general mismanagement. I have seen this suggested before but someone needs to start a contracting company of autistic gamers who tell you if your game is shit or not. This would have saved so many companies millions
>>739503159>saving a game thats just a shit imitation of hunt and tarkovfuck off retard dad gaymurr no one left at bungie even made halo
>>739503159I'm not sure I trust anyone left there to make a compelling single player or even co-op mode, but honestly it's either that or somehow go all in on an anime gacha and hope they can recoup $
>>739503159Doesn't matter, Bungie's games after Halo only exist to maximize the skinner box efficiency for whaling purposes. There is no pivot, or comeback, or whatever else you think is happening. They scammed 4.5 billion dollars out of Sony. All that's left is for the current executives to follow Paul out with their own golden parachutes and suffer zero consequences for the 5-year heist that Bungie pulled off here.
>>739503159Start rolling out attractive characters because nobody buys cosmetics for ugly ass niggas.
>>739503159Make a campaign you stupid fucks, not "muh lore tabs", a actual fleshed out well done campaign.
>>739506389Didnt they keep releasing shit for no mans sky more than 8 years after it released?
>>739506389No Man's Sky is a highly ambitious indie game and the team suffered real, actual setbacks in life while developing it. It only bounced back because the developers were dedicated to realizing their original vision for NMS even if it took a decade to do so, and it did.You're not going to see that from Bungie, they do 1-2 mass layoffs every year to prevent giving their employees a raise and have recorded in their bible that they're not supposed to add meaningful content to their games because "it creates patterns" that are bad for their microtransaction economy.
>>739509489They still areRecently they added pet battles, like 2 weeks ago
>>739506104EA Battlefront II
whatever it is they should dump as much money as they possibly can into it, im sure then it will be a huge success
>savingLive service slop dying is an improvement to gaming in my book
How to save marathon>drop focus on squads, trios and duos. balance and make the game solo first>scale down hero mechanics>nerf cheat items like thermal scopes>remove kernel level anticheat, that doesn't even work>don't gatekeep endgame if the endgame is your main content>choose between mtx or box price. can't have both>make characters good looking instead of just a bunch of DEI appealing troonsPVE, campaign and shit like that won't save the game.
>>739508407>company of autistic gamers who tell you if your game is shit or notwhy no one thought of a consulting service like this before?
>>739503159>step 1: force devs to port it to UE5 from Tiger engine that is their only job protection and then fire them all and relocate studio to bangladesh >step 2: now you can begin saving it
>>739503159Release new skins and areas that don't have that hideous "art" style where everything looks like a pre-alpha placeholder asset.
>>739510592so the people who play it and enjoy it keep winning while the doom posting psychos keep copemaxxing?sounds good to me retard
>>739512172are the marathon players in the room with us right now?
>>739512223100k-300k people play the game everyday get a fuckin hobby you mentally unwell weirdo
>Bungie bled destiny to death to pay for Marathon >This was widely covered and is practically common knowledge in the industry>"S-surely they won't do the same thing to Marathon!"Bungie fans are absolutely retarded. You fucking idiots deserve your incoming disappointment.
>>739512667destiny fucking sucked after 1anyone who stuck around and actually liked the gay millenial cringe writing of 2 deserves to be upset marathon moggs the fuck out of gay ass destiny
>>739503159how about making a none live service game which will be dead soon all of them will die once the save games movement ends no publisher will dare to make one ever again
>the last expansion of Destiny 2 was some retarded Star Wars crossover slop>and then the plug was pulled
>>739512873they're fun you gross unc retardeverything about you sucks
>>739512951Pathetic. Get a spine you fucking loser.
>>739512951If your birth year starts with a 2, you shouldn't be allowed on this site.
>>739512951FR FR!
>>739512429(citation needed)meanwhile we literally know how much this game failed thanks to the sony earnings report you lost maratranny, go grind your coffee
>>739513013what games do you like?
>>739511708Unironic tastelet
>>739513362Tarkov. Left 4 Dead. Factorio. Deadlock. Stardew Valley. Nuclear Throne. Barotrauma. Blood Bowl. Dying Light. Flinthook. Resident Evil. Spelunky. Roboquest. Bioshock 1/2. EDF. Gloomhaven.
