>You AREN'T the chosen one
Best to ever do it babyyyyyy
>>739503827Oh, it's bad luck to be you
>>739503827This show and the stop motion sections of the Amanda Show used to scare me lol.
i just don't see the appeal of "chosen one" style stories, unless the "choosing" is very abstract and not literal and the chosen one isn't just being handed everythingis why i couldn't get into shit like harry potter in its peak while everyone was gooshing all about it, i much rather characters go forward and force their way towards what they want than just being born "deserving" it
>>739503991Yeah it takes away all tension since it is stated what the ending will be and there is nothing you can do.
>>739503991Chosen one plots appeal widely to lower intelligence people who can't imagine their own life being special unless fate forces it on them. Same thing with Issekai
>>739503827I'm not the chosen one, I'm the one who chose to step up
>>739504096i disagree, isekai just means being transported to another world, the isekai you're thinking of just happening to be 'chosen one' style media as well where the person being isekai'd is a super special savior for no reason, but on its own isekai can be great if done well
>>739503991>i just don't see the appeal of "chosen one" style storiesIt's a literary device that has been old hat for longer than living memory, to the point where even subversions (star wars) and parodies (fallout 2) of the trope are themselves worn out.
>>739503991>>739504096Chosen one plots come from religion and history. Chinese believe the the founder of the Han dynasty was the Chosen one and the west believes jesus was their chosen one. It's seen throughout history to explain that everything that happened is good and was supposed to
>>739503827La Pucelle Tactics
>>739503991Aren't half of these "chosen one" stories just vague predictions that "someone" will stop the "bad guy"? Or a bad event or something.Like it could be you, or your party member, or some fuckass city guard that accidentally kneels on his neck or something. Not like you're very often given an in-universe immortality/respawn mechanic. And it's even rarer to see the bbeg get it.
>Turns out you killed the chosen one at the start of the game by accident
>>739504576>>739503991A "chosen one" story isn't necessarily bad but the bad ones are bad for a reasonHarry Potter is a classic female fantasy story, the mc just happens to be a boy, but in every other way it is feminine wish fulfillment, Harry isn't just "chosen" by magic or some council or fate or something, he is chosen by the story itself, he is abused and bullied just so his "revenge" is sweeter when he gets everything, suddenly someone comes up to him and tells him he was souper special all along and he deserves all the things, both literal money and goods and a place in a prestigious school, as well as a victory over the big bad, he just deserves itThat's the difference between chosen one stories that aren't annoying, and ones that areThe former say "this chara was chosen to toil and struggle and suffer towards a goal" whereas the latter say "this chara was chosen as the epic winner of life and they 'get' to play hero"Link was chosen, yes, but not by someone picking him like a puppy and giving him everything, but rather only he can fight to defeat Ganon, the responsibility lays on his shoulders, not just the reward, he isn't chosen for the goods and privileges, only for the challenge, and the goods and privilege come with beating said challenge That's the difference
>>739504651Unrelated to the thread but I fucking loved that show. Its cancelation was a sin.
>>739505041Yeah, they have been trying to get the rights back for years now, but I dont know if I would want them to have it in this day and age.
>you aren't the chosen one>but the chosen one exists>the chosen one fails>all you can do is stem the tide>humanity gets pushed to near extinction until a new chosen one is bornKino.
>>739505250what game?
>>739503827Based. I hate chosen one tropes. I don't want to know that the protagonist is destined to win or whatever.
>>739503827Actual Kino.
>>739503827It would be a novel concept for a gameMC is an RPG hero, going to towns and dungeons with various party members. He can only take 3 people with him at a time. YOU are one of those party members, during your off time you explore the world and train up and do your own thing, and respond to calls to join hero's party.Game's direction follows your interactions and choices along the way. You could:>End up being an NPC, you maybe get a single line of dialogue when the credits roll>Become hero's best friend, earn a place in the new world he creates as his right hand man (this includes extra scenes during the final boss as hero places his trust in you, and you help him deliver the final strike)>Become a rival to the hero and splinter off into your own story. Power up fast in the early game and attempt to complete the same objectives the hero is, but faster. Might be one of the toughest paths as you aren't the designated "hero", but you can try.>Defect to the evil army and betray the hero. Go ahead of the hero and tip off/alert people that he's on his way, making it tougher and maybe even repelling him. Story takes a turn while hero tries to discover who the mole in his party is. Extra points if you take this path while on the "best friends" route.So many possibilities.
>>739505041>>739505082It would be interesting if nothing else how the modern audience responds to a protagonist like Coop.
You're not "The Chosen One" but you BECOME "The Chosen One" through your day-to-day deeds, actions and words. That's the best way to go about doing it.
>>739503827I am always the chosen one.
>you are a chosen one>which means none of the gods can touch you or affect your fate>after beating your designated ancient evil you can go home, fuck money and swim in bitches>or try to directly fight the gods since they gave you the right tools to end their retarded competition and prevent them from throwing the world into a turmoil every 10 years
>Fight god/person with godly power>You cant beat them because god>Your death trying convinces them to end their villainy. (And may/may not revive you)
>You have to escort the real chosen one
>>739506264>t. mad he's not the chosen one
>>739503827>not the chosen one>yet amazingly gets seven fucking games and six incarnations based on his design
>>739503827>The Chosen One is a cute Heroine and you need to have lovey-dovey breeding sex with her.
>>739506264If you can become the chosen one then you weren't really chosen.
>>739506761He was the chosen one in some of them
>have son>"i love you son">he stays perfectly fine the whole game
>>739507080the original Toon Link (WW) wasn't though
>the prophecy is made up bullshit>MC fulfills the prophecy anyway>also >>739506995I want Lucy to bully me and call me a loser before riding me senseless and sucking and squeezing my nipples and threatening to out me as a pedophile rapist to everyone in the Ark when we get back.
>you're not the chosen one>in fact, the universe itself wants you fucking dead but you defy fate
>>739506761why did they reuse Young Link's voice clips for Toon Link in some of the games?
Is there a game where you're the chosen one but no one knows that you are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN9xYUwctLkkino
>>739507779For FS, I'm guessing a third-party like Capcom developing them meant they didn't have easy access to new WW assets so close to its release. And then for MC, they probably just couldn't be assed to update Link's voice (though they did get other WW voice clips for random NPCs). But there's a hack of MC that fixes this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjnZv9dytAoThere's also one for LttP GBA that gives Link his ALBW voice.
>Find out the hard way you're not the chosen one>Whatever, shrug and go have sex>Your son IS the chosen one
>you being marked a chosen one is not a guarantee for success, you can still fail at becoming it
>>739507183Can we dispel this retarded headcanon already? Yes he fucking was. Literally everybody calls him the Hero of Time reborn, even the Deku Tree.
>>739507754Loop Hero
>>739503827>You aren't the chosen one, but his best friend>After his only other living family member is murdered over a completely petty beef he goes from an idealistic and honorable dude to a Machiavellian schemer with no faith in his fellow man though he still wishes to ultimately do good.>Meanwhile you never sacrifice or compromise your morals despite shit constantly blowing up in your face for it.>the history books remember him as a wise and just king despite his cold and calculating brutality behind the scenes, while you fade into history as a forgotten figure or at worst a brutal and cruel mercenary captain and heretic to the church.>The framing for the game's story is a historian finding the one true account of the time and exonerating you a century after everything went down
>>739503827what s&box game is this?
>>739503827>you actually were>your rival defeats you and takes the spot
all god's creaturesfresh off the grill
>>739507623>MC fulfills the prophecy anywayOne of the only parts of Frieren's story I actually liked. Himmel and the Southern Hero are the coolest.
>main character isnt a hero and neither are their allies>they became allies due to similar circumstances leading them down a darker path>their adventure goes adjacent to the actual heroes on their journey to save the worldOnly game i can think of that is slightly similar is tales of berseriaAlso metaphor goes in a similar way but ends with the protag being the hero all along. It does feel earned in that game at least.
>main character's love interest is the chosen one>this is actually bad because she's been chosen to bring apocalyptic death to the world and you need to stop it
>Villain does everything in his power to free humanity from pre-determination.>Winds up setting the stage for the exact conditions for the prophecy to be fulfilled anyway.Hod was originally a miner's city, this is only mentioned briefly in one skit somewhere in the game and never again.>The young scion of Lorelei's power shall bring his people to the miner's city. There, the youth will turn power to calamity and be as a weapon of Kimlasca, destroying himself and the city. It wasn't about Akzeriuth, it's about Hod, the final dungeon.
>>739506226They would make Coop fit modern audiences.
>>739507623>the prophecy is made up bullshit>MC fulfills the prophecy anywayThis one is my personal favorite. Esp. if the prophecy was purposely-built bullshit by the big-bad to serve as bait for would be goody-two-shoes heroes; and it's what ends up doing them in, because this one motherfucker says: to hell with it, I'm going to *MAKE* it real.Karmic Streisand Effect is god tier.
>>739503827>Your dad was a chosen one whos party lost to the big bad, while you're a mediocre county bumpkin who has to quickly man up and help the offsprings of the party members defeat the big bad
>>739503991That's why they only "work" in videogames, and even they would be better off without that trope.
>you are the chosen one>but for the evil god>you can try not to be a complete douche, but it's your destiny to do evil
>>739503827>there was never a chosen one>the entire profecy was just the main villain manipulating people over hundreds of years into finding the place where it was locked up and freeing it thinking they were going to save the world
>>739510719I live this reality>t. religious but not spiritual gigalad
>>739511007>but if you're good, you can reshape your god into a philosophy that is no longer strictly evil
>>739506748That's half the wannabe bigbrains ITT. "Noooo! You have to be contrarian and subversive!!!!!"
I really hate when there's a magic affliction or some kind of horrible curse that specifically doesn't bother you, it sucks
>>739510153Isn't the twist The sword can only be pulled if the threat is bad enough to make it want to do something? Implying that the Demon King wasn't worth it's time.
>>739511375I can live with it when you're not the only one immune, but it's useful enough that it's like a desired skill. It's better as an excuse for why only some people go questing or traveling than it is a real plot point.
>You aren't the chosen one but everyone believes you are because you're so cool.
>>739508878good game
>>739503827>You're not the Chosen One because someone stole it from you, but they just got their shit kicked in by the Big Bad.
>>739511390It's never actually explained, just that he failed to pull the sword but continued like he did regardless.
>>739512079I felt it lacked enough tile combinationd that were also meaningful and fun desu. But sure it was a bit of fun.
>>739505250>>you aren't the chosen one>>but the chosen one exists>>the chosen one fails>>all you can do is stem the tide>which also fails>flying sausceer sips down next to raping granma>?? WHAZAHWAHAAAAAAT>alein now raping granma and you>you now have an anal tightness meter>your anus is overflowing with alien cum!>your anus is overflowing with alien cum!>your anus is overflowing with alien cum!>you are encumbered by alien cum>alient cum is now in your lunch, you cannot breath>your chokeing form inside out twith alieen cum>you have died to alien coum again, prepare for rebirth, the process in which absolutely includes large sums of alieon corm>would you like you continue? y/n
>you are the chosen one>but you also must BECOME the chosen one by fulfilling numerous poorly understood vague or even paradoxical prophecies to convince the people around you and the world itself so it doesn't shift and select a new chosen one
>>739506535Oblivion moment
>>739503827pic rel>>739503991It's part of the power fantasy. It doesn't matter how good humans have it, if we aren't individually recognized and beloved for having traits or something special about us that set us apart then the ego will either leave you unsatisfied if you posses such an ego, or at least belonging to a lower caste.
>>739508743DQV my goat
>>739503827>High Fantasy: Chosen One>Dark Fantasy: Cursed One
>>739514176>cursed one is doomed to fail>objective of the game is to transfer the title of cursed one to the big bad through some ritual>game constantly fucks with you because the current cursed one is in your party
>>739503827>The chosen one is the antagonist >The odds are stacked against you >You fight back anyway>You lose over and over again>But you never stop fighting out of sheer spite
>>739503827>you, ordinary stranger, must help the actual chosen one complete her journeyThis is great because you can get info and exposition from the characters with actual goals.
>>739503827>sequel retcons this fact so you were the chosen one since the first game
>>739515023Game?
>>739503827>game is poorly balanced and the MC is a stronger character than the Chosen One
>>739504979Harry Potter is explicitly a subversion of the chosen one.He’s only chosen because the villain was insecure, that’s it.
>>739503991Most stories need something contrived about the MC because there wouldn't be a story if they were some boring cunt
>>739515226Harry is chosen because Christ's sacrifice is the highest magic possible (Three Magi announce him) and his mother and then he both choose to reenact true self-sacrifice.
>>739503827Now start saying that to jews and watch them fucking lose it
>>739515083Gothic 3>in Gothic 1 you start as some random hot-mouthed convict that barely knows how to fight>in Gothic 2 you are the chosen one of the good god and only you can wield the macguffin required to kill dragons>in Gothic 3 you are now the chosen of ALL the gods and the king of Myrtana personally sent you to prison so that you could fulfill your destiny
>>739504651>>739505041>>739506226>>739510621Coop is a very distracted one track mind, but for what it's worth he doesn't lack compassion, he gets the job done, and he's a brilliant mechanic seeing as how he successfully modded alien tech he's never even seen before.
>>739516401Funny, that's exactly the game I started thinking about. You are wrong, by the way.In Gothic 1 Xardas straight up tells you that you are a chosen one. That he read the orcish prophecies and you are more powerful than anyone in the prison? The reveal just happens near the endgame, instead of at the start.
>>739514176Huh. Never actually realized cursed one was just edgywashing the chosenone formula.
>>739503827>You AREN'T the chosen one>but you beat the evil anywaysKino overload.
>>739516984Arcanum
>>739516691Forgot to add, after seeing what they did to the motherfucking Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, I believe anything can be "modernized" unfortunately.
>>739503827Kingdom Hearts 1Until the latter games haphazardly turned Sora into Keyblade Jesus.
>>739506264Wind Waker?
>>739503827Hated seeing these gross looking muppets on tv growing up.
>you aren't the chosen one>win anyway
>>739507969There's DQXI where you're the Chosen One but the demon lord gaslights everyone into thinking that's a bad thing, actually.
>>739517845I recently rediscovered them and one of the first results on Google for "Mr Meaty where to watch" is a fucking Internet archive page with (almost) every episode on it, except the pilot.
>>739503827Feels bad man
>>739503827>not the chosen one>but the best guy available
>chosen one is in fact being protected by God and thanks to this protection was never in any danger of being defeated during his journey>at the end of his journey he realizes God is wrong and fights against him
>>739516691>he gets the job doneI remember "Coop's attempts to save the day actually ended up making things worse" was a pretty common episode ending.
>>739503827Every story where you aren't the chosen one is retarded because it always just becomes the story of you accompanying the chosen one, making it essentialy the same
>>739518226haha, you're right, I remember him being sometimes capable but also remember his methods ended up destroying the point of their mission often.
>player character keeps changing his name to hide his identity from the player
>>739518752Name 2.
>>739518780ok fine it was speculative! would be fun, though!
>>739512539Unironically if you told me this was just an Elona log I'd believe it.
>>739518164>actually God had planned for this to happen and wanted the hero to actually defeat him, so that he could be strong enough to deal with the true villain.
>>739518164>At the end of his journey he realizes that God and the Devil are two sides of the same being, and have to renounce their chosenness to defeat the Devil for good
>>739505656dragon quest builders, until the end when they decided to throw away the prophecy so you could defeat the big bad.
>you're the unchosen one>your entire life was predestined for you to fail spectacularly
>>739503827I remember White Knight Chronicles has you go through the trouble of making your own character, only to get immediately side-lined for the faggot chosen-one.
>>739519327Yes, yes it would.And would make a fun end of game twist.>Protagonist is a master of disguise and regularly changes names>Turns out he doesn't actually remember his original name until someone from his past materializes and exposes him for the bastard he is>And as it turns out, he just stole that dude's identity in the first place, skills and all>Now you get to play as the real deal and beat the main character into the ground
>>739506226>>739504651That show was so metal but Sym-Bionic Titan has to be an act of kikery for it's cancelation. It was too good. I refuse to believe any other reason. Even lack of toy sales. In fairness given who the lead of Cartoon Network was at the time, Stu Snyder who was basically retarded on purpose to put it simply, and the fact that Cartoon Network has a long storied history of fucking over people who helped them and were good at their job, I refuse to believe anything other than conspiracy.
>there is a prophecy of a chosen one>the Gods have chosen you... to wake up the chosen one>and prepare all his ordeals beforehand while you are at it
>>739520838Uh... I vaguely recall a game like this as a kid. The MC was a girl and it made the ending infuriating to sit through.
>>739520934Yeah I would love a surrealist game like this>player character is paranoid of being followed>changes his name and face as often as he can>ducks out of sight when in crowds and turns corners, camera often struggles to follow him but catches back on>player character sets out to kill someone, kills the guy>turns out it was the original player character, who the new PC killed for stealing his identity>maybe something where the new character shoots the screen or ducks away from the viewer in the last moment, if it's not too corny. the point of the game is you are a voyeur stop staring at my ass I am not a 'character' okay
>>739503991It all comes from people’s obsession with noble birth and divinity. Think about King Arthur for example
>>739520934...wasn't there a Phoenix Wright game that had something similar?
>>739520934That's almost Planescape
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver is also a Surrealist game where the player and player character end up controlling and being every character in their own tragedy
>>739521524Planescape was so damn peak. It's not a game you can play twice really. Nothing beats the first run. The second run is just exploration and fun but nothing ever beats the first run.
(notable by the way that The Legacy of Cain is a story about a man destined to be constantly pissed on, written by the chief Masochist himself)
>>739520934If it's a 3D platformer, then beating the MC unlocks the post-game where you get to hunt down some "secret" locations you were always just a little short of reaching, cause now you have the REAL moves to do it.
>you aren't the chosen one>you were purposely trained wrong, as a joke
>>739503827>There are seven chosen ones>They all become corrupt >You are a random dude that is tasked with killing the seven chosen ones>Once you kill six of them, you learn that you are the seventh chosen one and you must kill yourself>Refuse and let the world fall to decay and corruptionBlood Omen fucking kino
>>739522346It's always fukken 7, man.
I guess Oblivion handled it somewhat interestingly by having you mantle a god but man, could you imagine how lame that game would be without that addendum?
>>739522526What are you talking about? In TES IV you're just a cool bodyguard for the actual super special imperial bloodline. I always kind of liked that, it lets the player be whoever they want to be, aside from an obligation to stop the oblivion crisis.In the DLCs the "Champion of Cyrodil/ Hero of Kvatch" mantles a demigod and then a daedric prince, but those were earned through willpower and skillset. I guess shivering isles was a bit of "right place right time", but with the caveat that the MC might just be having insane delusions of grandeur.
>>739503827what the fuck was this show
>>739508870He literally was not and the King of Red Lions and Jabun says he is NOT related to the Hero of Time in any way. The Hero of Time was removed from the timeline when Zelda sent him back at the end of OoT.
>>739503827Who says I'm not?
>>739503827>Not the chosen one>Your future kid is though>Villans think it's you though, kill your dad and turn you into a slave not realising this
>>739503827>YOU ATE THE CHOOSEN ONE>As in "you were choosen to help me with my evil plan then i discarded you like a used condom"
>>739513361To be fair, you do go through some more interesting adventures than Sean Bean and end succeeding a Daedra later on, even if it may not be your intention.
