Kris x Susie WILL be canon by Chapter 5
platonifags have no answer for this
>>739512936I will buy Toby's game if we end up able to date the cute dinosaur. I don't even care if she has bad dental hygiene
>>739512936You people are going to cry so hard when the new chapter comes out.
>>739513782especially when this happens
>>739513782Tears of joy, of course.
>>739513782tears of sadness at the anguish of our beloved cast when everything goes wrong for them perchance
>>739513782>when the new chapter comes outProof?
I can't see them as a couple at all
>>739512936Genuine question, is there a correlation between shipping and autism?Even shonenbrown powerscaler types of dudes have to take breaks or otherwise have some downtime, shippers meanwhile seem to be actual perpetual motion machines who can ramble about this shit literally all day until the end of time.
>>739514535There's a particular kind of autistic incel obsessed waifufaggotry which is adjacent to shipping, but more typical shipping is generally the realm of teenage girls playing with virtual dolls.The archetypal "shipper" is the same target audience as The Sims.
i can safely say that after playing 3 & 4 again noelle knight is the option that makes the most sense, one moment in ch4 cemented it for me everyone knows the scene in ch4 where kris takes over to play the large organ in the first sanctuary, yes?when the screen goes black a manic piano tune playshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ctIP2N88Mthen we see the door the knight locked open uppeople who were around when the sweepstakes will instantly recognize this song as something from itspecifically from noelle's blog post about kris, playing a concert just for herhttps://deltarune.com/kris_dreemurr_kris/now, why would toby connect these two events with this song? we know it's kris playing the piano, that cannot be argued, but why would his melody that noelle recorded be the one to open the knight's lock?simple: the knight wanted to hear a concert just for her
>>739515514Noelle Knight wouldn't be like Mother 3 therefore it can't be true. If Noelle had disappeared like Dess or Asriel it could be true, but that hasn't happened.
>>739515514that's gay and retarded, so it's untrue
>>739515587there is no 1:1 parallel with lucas and claus for a direct mother 3 reference because there are no twinsthe closest are either two siblings with a noticeable age gap, or the two neighbour kids of the same age, and since asriel is absent in the story, the closest analogue would be kris and noelle
>>739515747It's obviously clear that the Knight was originally meant to be Asriel, but Toby, not wanting to retread old ground, made Dess to take his place as the Knight.
>>739512936I was wondering why everything was so slow. Two threads explains it.
>>739513782A real shipper doesn't care about canon, they just ignore it.>>739515021This. There's waifufags that ship simply as a tool to self-insert to fuck their waifu and there's the shipper that just likes a character dynamic. Usually shippers don't care about canon and can pair multiple characters together unlike the false shipper.
>>739512936Exceptionally based if true.
>>739515514Got to say this, anon:Noelle's ACT point is very clearly an emulation of Kris's ACT point, given the context behind Noelle learning to battle.
>>739516293I mean. Some shippers care about canon a lot, or they wouldn't chimp out and start sending death threats to manga artist when their (usually gay) ship never materializes
>>739515514This is probably the most convincing Noelle Knight evidence, good job. But I don't think the Knight had any control over the door honestly.
>>739516497A lot of these are newfag fujos, which is why it mostly happens in popular shonen. They're also gay.
>>739514535You can't stop the force that is romance incel
>>739516529gerson states that the knight used some mechanism to lock it after he saw it going through it earlier
>>739512936Already is, only Krusie has a 250k likes post on twitter and the entirety of asia is generally pro-Krusie.
>>739515514It's better than pic rel but still the idea that the knight is just some guy under a helmet that we already know is absurd. It's just a chapter 1 theory that refuses to die.
>>739516827it's a common mystery trope to have the person who would ultimately be fingered as the culprit be introduced to the audience early oni will say that the knight's identity ultimately did not matter in the first two chapters, 3 & 4 do at least give the audience some mystery to chew on by giving us the info that a) the knight is a lightner, and b) the knight at least resembles the holiday family there's also toby saying that one of the reasons he scrapped the cut intro was due to 'it being really obvious who the knight was in it', or something along those lines that tells me that people would've been able to correctly deduce the knight's identity as early as the first two chapters if that was indeed the case
>>739514535All shippers are extremely autistic, yeah.
>>739516752based
>>739512936>Susie: Female or male, you're cumming in me.What did she mean by this?
>>739516606I didn't remember that dialogue, I stand corrected. Do you have a transcript of it?
>>739517603she meant to say with
>>739517146>toby saying that one of the reasons he scrapped the cut intro was due to 'it being really obvious who the knight was in it', or something along those linesToby never said that.
I'm gonna go fucking insane if I don't get chapter 5 soon
>>739514535Well shonen powerlevel stuff will always involve arguments and so does waifu stuff. But I think there are threads like this one dedicated to only one ship which means the others tend to stay out. I dunno this is heuristics on my part.
Are these threads just the same 5 people talking to one another over and over again?
>>739517616yep, it's right when you first enter gerson's study
>>739517793Actually they're all me. You're me, too.
>>739517793>5try 3
>>739517841It's just one though, me (you)
Pic rel looks less like bully and more like genki 00's manic pixie dream girl tomboy. Hmm....I know that shit is kinda tired but perhaps milf Susie could be bright and cheerful like pic rel. I dunno. Design is very cute thoughbeit.
>>739518046susie's original concept was just dinosaur maya feyas toby started actually writing deltarune she shifted more into the susie we see today
>>739518046Oh forgot to say but she also looks like Frankie Foster. That type of older sister type who is both girly and tomboyish. The type you'd want yourself or some chad to take care of and defend even if they are tough themselves.
>>739518134Ah yes. Forgot that. She's like an assistant to Phoenix who is normal and perhaps a bit goofy from time to time, yes? And is dumb in ways while smart in others? Like Phoenix himself?
>>739518135>The type you'd want yourself or some chadImagine being a cuck even in your fantasies. I cannot comprehend the mind of someone who likes ntr
>>739518202yeah more or less, i would call her a bit naive over dumb though
>>739517681How does... November 14 sound?
>>739516827I'm still convinced that the Knight itself is just being piloted by something. The text in the fight keeps calling the thing an "it", like an object. All the parallels to Kris's animations are just there to hint at that fact, since Kris is being controlled too.
>>739515514>now, why would toby connect these two events with this song?Because Kris playing the piano in the sweepstakes is foreshadowing Kris playing the piano in Chapter 4, using the asset made for the scene where Kris plays the piano in Chapter 4This is like the people who have psyopped themselves into thinking that FRIEND is the chair in Susie's apartment, somehow, because they teased the "Darker than Dark" scene in Chapter 3 using the chair asset and a FRIEND jumpscare because that scene has the chair asset and a FRIEND jumpscare.
>>739518046This Susie was back when she wasn't a bully, that and hat Ralsei were both late additions.
>>739517816This doesn't really say the Knight was the one responsible for locking the door, even if that's a reasonable assumption to make.
>>739518285your taking too long
i don't care if it's a pattern that might be broken I want the chapter 5 secret boss to be ralsei-focused and give him a weapon
>>739519669Nah that's actually a based pattern.
>>739516827>the idea that the knight is just some guy under a helmet that we already know is absurdChapter 3 and 4 unambiguously established that The Knight is a Lightner who Kris personally knows
>>739519738>the only reason susie doesn't immediately assume asgore is because she doesn't know he's an ex copsurely she'll find this out in ch5, right?
>>739519738Sure he does, all too well in fact. The Knight is Kris' and Dess' combined soul
>>739519738It's Future-Berdly trying to fix the timeline.
>>739519738https://youtu.be/eA-RBpfcGgQ?t=833Watch the whole scene. She isn't referring to the knight, she's referring to who she can contact to get more info on the knight. If she was referring to the knight here, her next line about going to city hall wouldn't make any sense.
>>739517681Just embrace the WAITing. Only by embracing true WAITing you can master insanity.
>>739518256To be fair maybe he just doesn't like her romantically or views her like a family. You don't need to fuck every girl you see to not be a cuck
>>739519870I don't think she'll find out until she learns about the Dess investigation, which will probably be pretty deep into the Dark World already, and presumably have already seen Asgore's Dark World form and know that he's not The Knight. But there's a lot of different ways Chapter 5 could go with how the Festival plays out and what exactly brings them to the flower shop.>>739520246>* Maybe... Maybe that's why the Knight captured Undyne?>* They wanted to take their code so they could get in...>* ... But in that case...>* They'd have to know the other two codes, too.Susie is viewing people who know the codes as suspects, based on her assumption that The Knight kidnapped Undyne to "take her code" and get into the Shelter. Their major lead on The Knight's identity is that they know the Shelter codes, so the other people entrusted with them are natural suspects.Her assumption is flawed, but regardless, it's one of several times in Chapter 4 that the game pushes you to consider The Knight's identity as a Lightner.
>>739512936Dumb dino can't compete against the childhood friends that literaly are at the center of the plot
>>739519920Dess's body and Kris's soul but I see the vision. the sooner the knight gets revealed the better
sup
>>739521356man I wish deltarune would leak so I can stop WAITing for the next 5 yearsI just want it to end
>>739516827>the idea that the knight is just some guy under a helmet that we already knowI mean yeah, but what the fuck does this have to do with DessKnight? A core part of DessKnight is that she can't "just" remove the helmet, something's wrong with her and that's why her dark world appearance is corrupted and Titan-esque. The image of the Knight with its helmet just "off" and Dess inside is metaphorical and whatever idiot started taking it literally should be disregarded.
>>739521331'SCUSE ME LUV
>>739521640Gaster why did you spoil the story.
>>739512936>Noelle pov
>>739521843toby has enacted the one drop rule for latinx that may be working on his game after the huemonkies leaked tadc just in case his ice magic didn't finish the jobthere will be no leaks
>>739522137noelle can tag along if she wants to
MMF bisexual sandwich between Susie, Kris and Ralsei while Noelle watches
Kriselle yuri is best yuri.
>>739519738Dess's body with Kris's soul btw.
>>739523019But I am Kris's soul.
hey guys, mikefag herei wish all your theories come true, even if they contradict each other
>>739523190my theories combine to make the uber kino utenarunethere is no conflict
>>739512936>>739513332>>739513836>>739513916>>739516370>>739516752>>739517505>>739522137>>739522282you guys are so funny>>739513782True!
>>739523317I prefer Madokarune but to each their own!
yeah man, those scenes of susie and kris bonding are totally there to foreshadow their future marriage and not to make the gut punch even harder when she inevitably learns the truth about what was going on
>>739521843I wouldn't want to experience Deltarune via leaks, that would be lame.
>>739523461Everyone loves magical girl humans!
>>739523808tadc ending got leaked and was extremely bland. if deltarune got leaked I'd actively avoid it like the plague
>>739523626Don't bother. Krusiefags refuse to take their blinders off
>>739524008i remember everyone freaking out on the eve of 3 & 4 when the ost leaked
>>739524191That was fun but in the end that leak barely revealed anything lol.
>>739524554>hammer of justice
>>739524601Revealing Gerson and that Mike was "real" was the only real things in it.
>>739523019deltarune is about a top half dess with robot legs fighting bottom half dess with kris soul
>>739523190Every theory being real would cause too much chaos.
>>739522459* Noelle will watch with me.
>>739523626Only the strongest Krusiefags will survive to the end.
>>739525569Unironically true. Non-self-inserters Krusiebros are the strongest shippers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRo_i3hCN98
>>739521843leaks have always sucked the fun out of everything though. They're not like teasers, you're getting the most earth-shattering reveals in 144p while the language is undecipherable with shitty watermarks and unrelated music. Imagine if The Roaring Knight got leaked.
Its not that I want anyone to win, I just want yuritroons to lose
>>739525752kino sceneeven with everything that happens in ch4, the diner scene is one of the highlights for sure
>>739525794>>739524191>>739524601toby will make the next soundtrack titles be completely unrelated to avoid leaks
>>739526043Toby loves his fancy titles too much for that.
>>739526043i'd argue the soundtrack names are already pretty ambiguous on what they're supposed to bethe real issue is that toby can't help himself with his motifs and those give away far more than the names do
>>739525901"Girl Next Door" being in there makes me hope that song will be used for at least one good scene at the Festival with Kris, Susie and Noelle hanging out together and having a good time without Kris getting third wheeled.Everyone's expecting the Festival to turn into a shitshow where people are going to get burned no matter what, but I really think the most likely way the "love triangle" is resolved is Susie refusing to get on the Ferris Wheel with Noelle like everyone expects, and instead taking her to Castle Town to come clean about the Dark World and include Ralsei like she wanted.Of course, on the Weird Route, you get on the Ferris Wheel with Noelle instead and leave Susie out in the cold.
>>739526274girl next door is a very weird track because although it's a clear evolution of the beta song 'noelle's theme', the only character that's present whenever it plays is kris i assume it playing in ch2 when kris and susie find the moss is an oversight, but it's still funny
>>739525752This is one of the most underrated Deltarune tracks honestly.
>>739526457sorry awkward wording, i meant to say kris is the only character that's always there when it plays, ofc other characters are present as well when it does
Kerdly bros WWA?
>>739523412Thanks for compiling all the thread's Krusiekino(so far). You definitely don't look like you're seething.
>>739526274Susie does want to go to the festival with both Kris and Noelle so I do expect funny times for them together, yeah. I think if they get alone is because Kris will leave for evil shit. However the weird route will indeed be pure angst kino, yeah.
>>739526457>>739526510Toby definitely isn't as strict with themes/motifs as people think and will just use a song because it sounds appropriate sometimes"Lost Girl" and "Flashback" have been used pretty loosely as sad/creepy music for example
>>739526510It's probably because he's the main character and Toby uses Noelle songs as generic music sometimes.
>>739525752>>739526462https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbzExv7wNI
>>739526897I'm looking forward to the full version of this a lot. This and final prophecy.
>>739524976some big shots just wanna watch the world revolving
>>739527186I prefer peace and Toby fulfilling his ideas. A lot of fan theories are kinda bad.
>>739513782I think the game is going to take a very melodramatic turnNoelle (who is also a knight candidate) has several issues and things that make her at odds with actually dating Susie, between her family issues and surface level infatuation for Susie being "mean" and "cool", Noelle is also just genuinely a little crazy. Susie also lied to Noelle about dark worldsKris is not being honest with Susie about many things, which is something Susie has repeatedly says she hates
>Shadow Mantle protects against dark/star attacks>Dark Shard that comes from the Knight has Dark Slay how does the Shadow Mantle protect against dark attacks if the Knights Black Knife deals extra damage to dark things?
>>739527620Because the Mantle isn't a Knight equipment? They're unrelated to the Black Knife
>>739527606>Noelle (who is also a knight candidate)bro thought he was slick
>>739527686Maybe I worded it wrongBlackShard (SlayDark) comes from Black Knife, you can infer that the Knights Black Knife also has SlayDarkShadow Mantle protects against Dark/Star elementsBlack Knife/DarkShard should do MORE damage to the Shadow Mantle
>>739527606You think?Anon, the melodramatic turn has happened since the moment Tenna has his melty time. And this will forever fuck with me because the room for another 1+2 style chapter completely died at that moment.
>>739527974>the melodramatic turn has happened since the moment Tenna has his melty timeI think all the bosses had a melodramatic moment? King had the Lancer strangulation and the fake spare, Queen crucified Noelle and tried to bring down the Roaring, Tenna had his breakdwon, and the Titan is one by inception.
>>739527794The ShadowMantle isn't an actual dark element so the black knife doesn't do any extra damage to it. It's not that complicated.
>>739527974Tenna's melty wasn't that moment, it was the Knight showing up and killing him
>>739528171King was a tough moment but it was more like a "grandiose fantasy story twist", Queen was just a load of bullshit the whole way through and she doesn't even deserve GALLERY playing over when she shows the plugged berdly. Tenna having a meltdown was a very different thing and was the beginning of the tonal shift that was solidified by the Roaring Knight striking him a little latter.I don't think Susie is willing to have any patience with the main villain of chapter 5, unless it's someone like Asgore or yet again a complete lack of a main chapter villain.
>>739527620The Shadow Mantle doesn't make you Dark/Star element, it protects you from attacks of that elementAlso, despite The Knight using Dark/Star attacks, it isn't considered a "Dark" enemy for the purpose of the SlayDark effect. The BlackShard (and Twisted Sword) are specifically effective against the Titan and Titan Spawn.
>>739528580I already said it, but it was the beginning of the shift. And maybe even the actual shift if you consider the meta angle of that scene.
>>739528954i miss vanilla chapter 2 era kriselle
>>739528596Asgore’s flower court will force the fun gang to do funny trials and tribulations, trust the plan
>>739528613That's because the BlackShard doesn't have the slaydark property in Chapter 3. I expect us to deal it extra damage in a rematch.
>>739528989>chapter 2 era kriselle>vanilla LMAO
>>739529089>No Sheriff Dandelion, we are NOT doing your stupid puzzle! The Knight will destroy the world if we don't stop it!>Ralsei, just tell us what to do, you already know everything that will happen so let's get to the Knight as soon as possible!>I, Gardeneth Rouxls will-SHUT UP YOU FREAK WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS WE NEED TO STOP THE KNIGHT!!!!oh susie
>>739528954Imagine the state of Deltarune fanart without Snowgrave
>>739529402yeah anon, I know doelesting was a thing back then whateverbut there was a noticeable amount of people who just thought their interactions were sincere and warm, and I miss that angle
>>739529089So what's the deal with these flowers? They're clearly set up as a visual parallel to the 6 human souls(and Flowey), and a lot of people assume that as darkners they'll act like the 6 humans. But why? What do these flowers have to do with the fallen humans? They're just the same color? I really feel like there's more to it than that.
>>739526897for me, it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEXiaOHeYEU
>>739529476these threads would just be krusie and like two susellefags yelling at each other while every takes noelle as a glorified gag character
>>739529608it still hurts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azd11IZI6OA
>>739529654>susellefagsHas there ever been an unironic susellefag around here?
>>739529501they symbolize asgore and toriel's marriage, so maybe they represent the healthy attributes of that? or maybe they've become corrupted because of the divorce and asgore's obsessionand for a more wild guess, maybe the college asgore/ toriel/ rudy/ carol went to was a co op with humans, and a human helped asgore pick the bouquet
>>739529501>So what's the deal with these flowers?Asgore said they're good listeners.
>>739529501colors and no other connection to the humans and floweythey'll probably be the 7 Dwarves to Asgore's Snow White if Rouxls' new outfit in the Deltarune guitar cover collection indicates a more fairytale-like Dark World in the Flower King store.
>>739529818>fairytale-like Dark WorldMY GOD PLEASE LET THIS HAPPENPLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>739529654replace suselle with kralsei and it'd be more accurate>t. remembers the chapter 1 days
>>739529818I almost feel like each flower will have their own section with its' own theme. Asgore's shop has a few genres already(Alphys' superhero comics, old cowboy show tapes), and him being a king obviously gives us medieval fantasy. This dark world might have a ton of variety.
Krusie is endgame
>>739529818>fairly tail dark world>asgore is the king>toriel is the queen>asriel is the prince>kris is the princessanon, that's ityou figured it out that's how toby can get away with it
>>739530259*fairy talei need to proofread my shit better
>>739530232Anon the game keeps pushing Suselle and we all know of Toby's lesbian fetish. Read the room.
>>739530562nah man it might just be a hopium talking but i'd say ralsusie is still endgame
>>739512936
>>739530893A tale as old as fandom.
>>739530893This. Kris and Susie are cool friends, but Kris was made for the doe.
>>739530893Kris crushing on Susie is textual
>>739531016Kris is asexual and aromantic
>>739531016this is infinitely gayer and lame than susie and kris just casually smashing pissers
>>739530219I don't know if Toby said anything about Chapter 5's size, but I do know at one point chapters 3-5 were being worked on simultaneously, but had to cut it down to 3-4 because it was TAKING TOO LONG. About a year of time after 3-4 came out, 5 is still being worked on, so I think it's safe to assume it'll be pretty big. I just hope if Rouxls really does show up he'll be playing banging medieval tunes on a lute>>739530259shut up
>>739531137its gay either way ain't it
Mr. Cunningham is already a #DessKnightTitanAngel believer, he just doesn't know it yet
>>739530893>it's fanon because... IT JUST IS, OKAY?
>Hi Kris!! What can I getchu?~>An Iced Latte... with... WHAT?!?!>...>C-Coming right u-up!!
>>739531479she should've expected thatcows are known for their milk, after all
>>739531406only theorist I trust
>>739531406>>739531702>letting fags think for youThere is truly no place to discuss this game
>>739531859You're free to go in a better place like R*ddit;
>>739531479kris knows what he wants
>>739531953years later and he still goes for it
>>739531910If fags like you stayed there, then these threads might have actual discussion.
Kris X Berdly WILL BE CANNON
When deltarune teaches you that all of the undertale monsters are absolutely terrible beings you'll go back and play undertale genocide with a smile on your facealso I want to believe in the power of krusie but I feel like the game is going to railroad you into fighting her somehow
>>739531859I thought of it first thougheverWatching a video and comparing your notes isn't any different than bouncing around in the blender of bullshit on here
>>739532217truth
>>739524049Why would he do that..?
>>739532056You'd miss my Noelle red pills.
so is there literally anything else to Deltarune other than obsessing over which character ship is the best (they're all school children as well). It's not just this shit board that is like this, it seems like that's what 90% of the fandom is everywhere else too.
>>739532996the mystery of who is the knightwhat is the roaring exactlywhat is the last prophecywhat the fuck will happen in the weird routewill asgore be redeemed (lol)gaster maybe
>>739532996Yes, you can also become obsessed with the mysteries yet to be unveiled in the main plot, or look out at the bigger picture where Toby Fox has been cryptically recreating an apocalyptic Great Flood narrative from first principles
>>739526274The garden will burn because of jealousy. Kris was supposed to be the protagonist now, yet Susie keeps taking it all away from him. Being special, the pen, the girl, the mentor, the chosen weapon, the choices. He likes Susie but there is a breaking point. He should have been content with his lot.
>>739533460Kris doesn't want to be the protagonist but that doesn't matter because they're still the most important person in the story for as long as we're pulling the strings around their neckThere's no world where Kris and Susie's friendship fractures because Kris feels jealous of her.
>* There are many books.>* Tales of Snails - A Story Book.>* Snails Do Not Have Tails - A Scientific Refutation.>* And a signed copy of The History of Humans and Monsters, by Gerson Boom.
>>739534125when did gerson die, anyways? alphys says she's only been in town for a few months and she is gerson's replacement teacher we know he was gone by the time susie showed up because she doesn't recognize him, so at the very least she showed up at the same time or a little after alphys did, which again could not have been more than a few months prior to the game starting
>>739534303>* It's been a few years since my father passed on...>* Fans of his famous book series, Lord of the Hammer...>* We still received condolences from them until just recently.>* A brave man, brilliant, and sharp.>* Kris, it is a shame you were not able to have him as a teacher.>* And, difficult for Ms. Alphys, as his replacement.>* Let us pray that the Angel will smile upon her.Alphys never specifies when she was hired, but it's probably been a few years. Gerson died and Alphys was hired on Toriel's recommendation.
Apparently the LodeStone armor in Chapter 3 has two unused variations where it's described as a different item, and they all have matching equipment dialogue?This must be one of the things where it was supposed to vary depending on your save slot like the TV Dinner, but maybe Toby couldn't make it work with an armor for some reason?
>>739534641>* We still received condolences from them until just recently.god damnit i just realized that this is proof for simulation theory.>hometown's internet has been cut off.>all of the "my deltarune" stuff with gaster>the only way in/out of the town being blocked off with police tape and NOBODY going through it>this alone isnt enough proof for simulation theory>could just be variables gaster's isolating to make sure the experiment doesnt spiral out of control, like noelle being a dumbass and putting "OMG i just had a dream about these 'dark worlds' and it was so crazy" on her blog and having some giga autist monster give an in depth description about how they're real and related to the prophecy, or locking access to the town because someone important runs away or someone disruptive visits>but incoming mail being cut off too? even mail that has been persistent?fuck me i dont want simulation theory to be real.but if we dont get a bunch of "outsider monsters" during the carnival it might as well be all but confirmed
>>739535349i don't know, alphys says she's relatively new and susie has stories of where she used to live before coming to hometownnoelle also says that dess wanted to take her to a big city one dayeven if the present game is a simulation of some kind, i think there's more than enough evidence to suggest this would be a very recent development, and i don't buy the 'their memories were implanted into them' shit, even if toby is ripping off mother 3
>>739524049who says it can't be both?
>>739535349>But recently, another fountain has appeared on the horizon...>* But, recently, a strange knight appeared...>... Until Recently, When The Town's Internet Disappeared>* (Kris...)>* (Recently, there's been something... different... about them.)>* ...? Kris? I do not know what you are experiencing recently, but...>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance. I will pray for you as well.>* Kris... stay away from the shelter.I think the overall picture here is that the recent anomalies in the town, and Kris's behavior, connect back to the conspiracy, which began recently with the emergence? return? of The Knight, and Your possession of Kris not long after.The Gerson line is probably just a coincidence, fans eventually tapering off years after his passing. Nobody has said that there's no mail service in town at all, that would be a bigger deal.
I just wanna see Papyrus.
>>739531859I'm too retarded to actually understand this game. I don't know what the fuck is a Penumbra Phantasm or why the Titan has a save point for a face or why the Forgotten Man gives you eggs, I don't know I don't fucking know
>>739533616Notice how its on Susie's dark world that Kris is dehumanized in the prophecy, and not on the first/third sanctuary, meanwhile "the girl" prophecy is plastered all over repeatedly. She probably is really self centered even if doesn't really show on the story at this point, and that's gonna bite her back later on.
>>739536314penumbra phantasm is a total nothingburger because toby can't get the composer's blessing for it because he's deadaside from that you're on the same page as everyone else as only toby has any idea what the fuck is actually going on atm
>>739535532>and i don't buy the 'their memories were implanted into them' shitah right i was going to talk about that since its the important part but forgotconsider the mail angle for a moment.alvin has memories of persistent mail from LotH fans up until "just recently"this makes the most sense under simulation theory>stream of mail from fans is notable enough to say that its still happening >then just recently it stopped>its also the same "just recently" as the police tape being put up and the town's internet being cut off>if it tappered off alvin would've said something like "but its gotten less frequent these days">>739535923yeah, the recent anomalies are one thing and come from various sources. but there's a point to be made about the fact that a good chunk of them relate to homwtown suddenly being cut off in every way that matters. if someone wants to leave and whistleblow, they cant.if someone wants to call police from a town over, they cant.if someone wants to ask the internet about dark worlds, they cant.either the conspiracy actors are intentionally cutting these off to keep things under control, or the outside world outright does not exist anymore.as for mail services, in-town services are probably still up like the phone lines, but nobody's going to complain about a power bill being a day or two late or not getting any spam mail.
>>739536314You do know that it all seems to work together and point in a vaguely coherent direction. If it didn't, you wouldn't be at all bothered by the fact that you can't put it all together yourself, you'd be able to just write it off as nonsensical.
>>739512936FIVE FUCKING CHAPTERS? What the fuck is Toby Fox doing?
>>739536472the whole point of CH4 is that the prophecy is absolute and cant be mutated.the spam of [the girl] and dehumanization of kris is part of the prophecy.
>>739536472i don't think it's that she's self centred, it's more that she's desperate to be included/ wantedthere is an air of uncertainty with the hero panels, she just assumes kris is the cage and that she's the girl because the first one her and kris found pretty clearly is about ralsei, who was the one who's been telling them that they're the heroes since the start i'm almost certain that it's set up for susie getting rugpulled about not actually being included, again
>>739536665>the whole point of CH4 is that the prophecy is absolute and cant be mutated.Well it can, there's Ralsei's prophecy, Lord of the Hammer and Dragon Blazers.The original prophecy, of course, is set in stone, but why the prophecy made in a dark world, influenced by the creator's mind, wouldn't be twisted just like the tales based on them?
>>739536665dark worlds also reflect the mental state of their creatorthat's why susie's was so noticeably different from all the others, to the point of it being literally upside down in comparison, she isn't thinking about it like the knight or kristhis is after susie gets her pep talks from gerson, who gassed her upthe prophecy repeating the role that would fit susie the closest is a reflection of that, whether it actually is susie or not
>>739536314Penumbra Phantasm was a music track that Toby composed for Homestuck (largely based on a song/motifs created by another Homestuck musician, Buzinkai), which was never actually completed or published, only becoming known through Toby referencing it in other very popular songs used in the webcomic and making cryptic personal references to it.Being a really cool song that nobody got to actually hear in its entire completed form, it quickly developed a legendary reputation as an unfinished masterpiece among Homestuck fans, who extensively referenced and spun off their own versions of it in fan tracks and speculative recreations."Penumbra Phantasm" itself, thematically, is about the meeting of opposites. A "penumbra" is the space in between light and shadow, "phantasm" is something unreal or imaginary, existing between dream and reality. Toby has made significant comments related to this, such as his very first (remaining) tweet from 2011>"The edge of shadow, where reality and dream meet."And this well-known tumblr response to people asking about Penumbra>AT "SHADOW'S EDGE," SHATTER THE TWILIGHT REVERIEIn short, Penumbra Phantasm is a song, which Toby has confirmed will not be used in Deltarune due to the death of Buzinkai (whose composition the song is largely based on). BUT it remains fundamentally connected to Deltarune thematically, and even in the sense of the real-life narratives that have formed around Toby making them.
>>739536674>set up for susie getting rugpulled about not actually being included, againMaybe it'll result in an inferno of jealousy.
>>739537240very possible that's the neat thing about the alleged inferno for ch5, we have multiple characters that could be the cause of it for a multitude of reasons
>>739536824>Well it can, there's Ralsei's prophecy, Lord of the Hammer and Dragon Blazers.That's not changing the Prophecy, that's retelling it.THE Prophecy remains unchanged.>>739536824>>739537187The Prophecy is THE PROPHECY. It's not what Susie thinks it is, it's not her imagination, it's the TRUTH.If The Prophecy that we saw was in any way susceptible to influence or unreliable, that would make it all pointless. The entire point was that The Prophecy is absolutely true and has not been changed.
>>739537381i'm not saying the prophecy is wrong, i'm saying that susie's interpretation of it might bethose are very different things
>>739537306>inferno>fireWe have Toriel, Asgore, Asriel (lmao), Ralsei>jealousyNoelle, Susie, Ralsei, Asgore, Kris (really unlikely as he's an unexpressive bitch)>both inferno and jealousyAsgore, RalseiIf inferno ends up meaning simply turmoil with no fire conotations, we have a lot of candidates, if not, there's just a few of them. Susie, Noelle and Asgore have a really high chance of being the ones jealous of someone.Asgore jealousy, even if it makes sense and is part of the story, is incredibly irrelevant to the plot and something that should be relegated to a gag. Yes, there's all the family trouble with Toriel and the relation to Dess disappearance, but chapter 5 wouldn't be a satisfying chapter if the entire cliffhanger to the conclusion of the series on chapter 6 and 7 is "Asgore was jealous of Sans and then we beat him up, then something lead to the roaring". Its not a climax, its retarded.So there's actually just 3 real candidates:>Ralsei with both inferno + jealousy conotations, but no apparent motive in the story yet>Susie feeling left out/betrayed by Kris>Noelle being retarded
>>739536824>>739537187suppose i should elaborate better.the point is that the prophecy is absolute but there are ways to skirt around it with your own telling.what we see in the church is the "original prophecy"this one is set in stonethe point of the chapter is that these panels cannot be changed, the words cannot be changed and even if destroyed they'll simply appear elsewhere.throughout it gerson makes sure to put emphasis on the fact of not focusing on following the prophecy too hard otherwise you'll lose your way>the cage, with human soul and partsthe problem with this being a symptom of susie being "self centered" is that she doesnt think of kris like that.if it were a case of self centering dehumanizing him, it would make kris subservant in a way or diminish his role.like>THE HUMAN, THE ONE THAT SEALS THE DARK>THE HUMAN, THE ONE THAT ACTS FOR ENEMIESreducing his role to the fact that he just closes the dark fountains or ACTs, ignoring how he's the leader of the party and kinda makes the whole thing possible.instead there's emphasis on the fact that he has a human soul, which even susie finds weird.ralsei is also given "the prince, alone in the dark", if it were influenced by susie it would absolutely not say that.>spam of the girlthis is one of those "we just cant guess" things where any attempt at an actual explanation devolves into schizophrenia because its nonsensical in nature.
>>739537584Even if the inferno is literal fire, that doesn't mean it has to be fire magic. You can set things on fire without using magic.
>>739537584>Asgore jealousy, even if it makes sense and is part of the story, is incredibly irrelevant to the plot and something that should be relegated to a gagWe found the one guy who hates Asgore more than Toby Fox
>>739536314Don't overthink it, and you'll have a better understanding than the rest when if the whole thing finally ends. People in these threads have nothing better to do and so rile themselves up with tenuous connections. They will speculate on the metaphysical nature of eggs all while ignoring every annoying dog joke to prevent cognitive dissonance. Don't fret over it.And mentioning OFF is the extra ironic part of the meme, since word-of-god has long since declared the whole thing was only a wacky surrealist journey.
>>739537731>You can set things on fire without using magicWhen everything is thematic and symbolic, interpreting things literally can be a hindrance. But yeah someone can set the flower shop on fire due to jealousy and that would be funny.>>739537772>We found the one guy who hates Asgore more than Toby FoxHonestly do you expect chapter 5 to end with Asgore being the last boss, being jealous about Sans fucking his eggswife or something, then you get 5 minutes of a completely unrelated scene that leads to a massive cliffhanger/roaring? Is that satisfying at all? That'd look more like filler than chapter 3's boards.I'm not saying Asgore won't be the last boss or that he'll be uninportant in the chapter centered at his flower shop, but he won't be the epicenter of the inferno of jealousy
>>739521640I can't stay mad at this darker than dark wacky, whimsical ahh nigga....He be bustin it down real drippy watery dark glass, platonic style as one fly ass youngblood. Straight up, stuntin' on theorists and schizos through prank phone calls and basic ahh indie game programs/viruses.Nigga saw the I love bees ARG and said he gonna do one better. Dark unc be in his own world, he be quiet but he funny as hell tho...
>>739538019>But yeah someone can set the flower shop on fireIt doesn't have to be a light world fire either. It can be in the dark world. The prophecy speaks of Queen and her car, of Tenna being cleaved in half, who's to say the Chapter 5 dark world won't go up in flames? It could just as easily be the Darkners.
>>739538019I think Asgore has a lot more going on than just seething about Sans, and I think exploring that is extremely relevant to the big picture of the game and blowing open the conspiracy to move toward the endgame.>>739538263Fire physically destroying Asgore's home and business, his flowers, his mementos of his family and past, and the investigation that consumed his life would be far more impactful than a make-believe fire that doesn't affect anything.
>>739538373tenna's potential death and the atrium after the titan fight prove that things that happen in the dark world can effect the light world to an extent a fire certainly could cause problems, although i wonder what would happen if you introduced an active light source in a dark world
>>739538263It most likely will be in a dark world, since every line of the prophecy refers to events that happen in a dark world (besides "Jockington grows a beard", but even that is questionable)
>>739538432The darkness pouring from the fountains has already been compared to smoke several times
If Gaster isn't involved by chapter 5, then there's no point in introducing him. I think the best thing for him is just being relegated to a literal easter egg for collecting all the eggs. The absolute community brainrot of him being the big bad or mastermind behind everything just comes off as retarded and lazy.
>>739538641>If Gaster isn't involved by chapter 5
>>739538641That's why he perhaps should just be a dude you meet who loredumps shit.
I just noticed this, what if the "The Girl" panel that appears sideways is actually a broken axe/hammer? It sure does look like one
>>739538703I think that's for the best. I'd like it even better if he was just some mumbling retard in a hospital bed.
>>739538373>would be far more impactfulWhy does it have to be impactful? None of the other chapter summaries Gerson gave were of impactful events. He talks about stopping King, about the first Berdly fight on the roller coasters ("chariots"), the islands in the Legend of Tenna video game, and of himself giving Susie the weapon. None of these are super impactful.
>>739538781doubt it was intentional but if it was that would be an interesting twist
>>739538781it's not, all the panels are presented horizontally and we know the girl is as well because we see it get shattered a number of times
Does the shattered deltarune look like jockington to anyone else?
>>739538872Its the only panel displayed sideways though, it has to mean something
>>739538810>Why does it have to be impactful?Were you not just making the argument that it couldn't be about Asgore because you think it has to be a satisfying climax?The flower shop burning down wouldn't really change anything in the grand scheme of things, but it could represent a major thematic turning point in the story. The past that's shackling you can be burned away and left behind, and a new future, a new you, can be born from the ashes. It's extremely relevant in a story where all of the "bad guys" seem to be motivated by attachments to the past that they're desperately clinging onto.
>>739539002Forgot the picture*
>>739539104>>739538872>>739539002Maybe if the hammer panel wasn't cut then people could compare it but otherwise I just think it wasn't the intent
>>7395308932 good friends with benefits.
>>739539070>Were you not just making the argument that it couldn't be about Asgore because you think it has to be a satisfying climax?...no?
>>739528989Back when only Noelle was getting rapedNow ch 4 reveals that Kris is also getting rapedFeels good
>>739539463The truth is, Kris was getting raped from the start.
>>739539463>>739539527they're calling kris the most raped of all time
>>739530893what if they're friends that just casually sex each other
>>739539726they look like they touch brooms in the closet toghether
if gerson also went through a similar adventure what do you think his party was?monster - gersondarkner - seamhuman - chara?
>>739540000The OG party was Asgore, Carol and Rudy
>>739540438You mean Asriel, Dess and SeamI don't buy this theory but ponytail Dess goes hard and I hope it's real
>>739540438i would swap carol with gerson, if anything carol was probably the knight in their sessionalso i think their classes arerudy - red mageasgore - dragoongerson - warrior
>>739540519why would their darkner be seam isn't he gerson/alvin's doll?
>>739540768no, seam seems to have a connection to asriel as susie points out that there's something on his pc that looks almost exactly like himthe abandoned classroom just seems to be a general school junk room by the time of ch1, he could've been something that asriel/ dess lost that wound up there
>>739540895i think he knows seam cause hes seam has been around forever, theres a picture in the kids classroom of seam drawn by alvin iirc. i think it's implied that he's gerson's doll originally, passed down to alvin who probably gave it to the school. also alvin is a generation older than asriel right? so he might've had his own session as well
>>739540000>>739540438>>739540519>>739540616you have to remember that a human needs to be in the party for the purpose of sealing a fountain, and the prophecy mandates a darkner. 'the girl's role can probably be slipped to a female human to allow a male monster.>gerson, ???, ??? "lord of the hammer">carol, ???, ??? "dragon blazers" (note: aborted snowgrave)>asriel, seam, dess "true prophecy", followed the prophecy too closely and it all went wrong causing dess to vanish. (possibly the result of human dess taking her soul out in the dark world and getting KNIGHTed for it?)>susie, ralsei, kris "the new story", an attempt at fixing the ASD fuckup and bringing dess back.
>>739541068alvin is likely older than toriel/ asgore/ carol/ rudy just going off of mannerisms but i don't have any evidence to actually prove thati guess he could just simply be in his early 60's where the parents are in their mid - late 40's, which would put gerson being somewhere around mid 80's - 100 range if he died a couple years backthis is of course going off of the idea that monsters and humans have generally comparable lifespans in deltarune, and turtle monsters don't live well into their 1000's like actual turtles
>>739541117technically all that's needed is a human soul, and something resembling a human to contain it the prophecy doesn't say anything about one of the heroes being a real human, nor does it say anything about one of them being a monsterall it demands is a human soul with human parts to contain it, a girl, and a prince in the darkeverything else is superfluous
>>739541343added an extra zero to the turtle lifespan but you get what i mean
>>739541117i bet you monsters can seal the fountains there's just some downside to it. also they might've been using vessels instead of actual humans. maybe dess and kris are both vessels and the monsters have been making artificial humans to try and ascend. i think it will be revealed that monsters are either at war with or being subjugated by humans
>>739541436true, true.but i do think there's a general constraint of three party members.>THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS>THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART>THE PRINCE, ALONE IN THE DARKgiven the anniversary stream's gerson speech, his party was likely>male monster, prince, human girlthen for carol's party, she's the girl so the human's sex doesnt matter too much.however, carol 100% went down her snowgrave equivalent to some extent so if we're tying chara into this somewhere, she probably got chara.>female monster, prince, human.asriel and dess are an established duo, and this line of thought only works with human dess so all they need is their prince.so,>gerson, ???, ???>carol, ???, 'chara'>asriel, seam, dess>susie, ralsei, kris>>739541516its a good thing that you're not writing the story because that twist would probably get toby killed by the more rabid fans.
>>739512936>krisused goods
>>739542559>used goodsbut there was no penor involved?
>>739541117>>739542147I'm kind of thinking the prophecy is just a hoax/bullshit which is why all of these sessions ended at ch5. Following it too closely just causes a reset with consequences, like missing party members (dess).Jockington has some weirds hit going on too like being directly named in the prophecy and the organikk's quote "Before the clock strikes midnight, the shadow will grow!O, the shadow will grow, serpentine!Even when the clock ran back, the shadow was growing!A patch of shadow, slithering on, slithering on, serpentine!"Kind of implies his beard is permanent even with a reset is what I'm thinking
>>739542559Dess the lolicon...
>PENUMBRA PHANTASM (Feat. The Weeknd)Your reaction?
Does anyone else have a weird obsession with Kris? I just wanna know what’s going on inside his troubled little mind but I also wanna push him over the edge just to see his reaction
>>739544079dess the pedoe...
>>739544079>t. Dess Holiday
>>739542684you're giving me a schizo theory...>the prophecy was always a sham, the knight is an ancient enemy and its a story of those that try fighting it>come chapter 5 the party is given an option>the easy way out - simply seal the knight for the next party to deal with>or the hard way - move to kill the knight in CH6+7>gerson understood that there was no taking the hard way, his party followed one path too hard and they simply were not ready.>carol wanted to force it through strength, but that alone wasnt enough and she too had to concede>asriel and dess tried to force it. asriel was the goodie religious boy that thought he just had to follow the prophecy, dess was bold and willing to follow him to hell>this fucked everything up. the knight ended up taking dess's soul (why kris is capable of some communication with the knight. she's in there)>carol was capable of a temporary seal in the bunker, but it wouldnt last until the next generation>so the town's conspiracy started>carol needed to prime kris so that when the knight broke free. he would have the ability to put an end to the knightmare for good. he had to.>this included summoning (you) for the ability to reset and truly force things.>the original intent was for the party to be kris, (you), noelle, and ralsei. with the ability to reset and the tools for any situation, victory would surely be guaranteed.>risking her own daughter put carol at unease, but she knew that noelle would have the same ice magic as her and that (you) would force the best ending.>but this all fell apart with kris coming in just a little too late and getting paired with susie, who is too much of a wildcard>and from there ralsei is too passive.>carol has already deemed the situation lost.>the undyne sacrifice is going to be a preventive measure to give them more time without needing to wipe the slate clean again
>>739523626I WILL take responsibility and tell Susie that Kris really loves her and if the game doesn't give you that option we riot
99% of theories would crumble if you applied Occam’s Razor
>>739544784>>but this all fell apart with kris coming in just a little too late and getting paired with susie, who is too much of a wildcardso what you're saying is berdly fucked everything upAlso this theory is kind of reminding me of FFX
Noelle loves to watch thobeitever.
crust ze pan
how would they get along?
>>739547185This guy gets it
>>739536314Penumbra Phantasm is an unused and unfinished song Toby made for Homestuck. It got spun into this huge thing despite having nothing to do with Deltarune (everything in that other reply is speculation) because the chapter 3 wait made everyone insane. It will not be used in Deltarune because it contains motifs from songs written by a composer who is now dead and Toby feels unconformable using motifs from someone if he can't ask for permission anymore.
>>739538641He's literally in the very first scene of the game. Even before you meet Kris.
>>739539150I think Toby meant for people to find the cut prophecies. He referenced "coldwater fell from the sky" in the last newsletter.
>>739538641of you use your phone in dark world you can hear his voice/screamhe is already here, lurking
>>739538641He's never going to make an on screen appearance, you're never going to walk up to him and interact, he's always going to be some mysterious bastard that pulls strings from afar. There's just too many years of headcanon buildup to not disappoint everyone, not to mention ruining the mystique surrounding him. You'll just have to IMAGINE your best version of him
>>739547376Probably like how child Kris gets along with her, Chara would try to prank her and other fun stuff while Noelle gets scared. Maybe they would also talk about horror together, too.
>>739547185Based Karkat
>>739543558Dess is so based...
>>739528989>>739529489Despite no rose most of the art was even more about race than now. It was even less wholesome than ever.
>>739529476No Snowgrave would mean Kriselle would barely exist, we would still be in the Chapter 1 era of Krusie dominance and cuck the deer.
>>739529501>But why? What do these flowers have to do with the fallen humans? They're just the same color? I really feel like there's more to it than that.Right now it's just the colors and you can maybe interpret the blue flower dialogue as describing a ballerina (which the blue soul is). Personally I think they will be based on the dead kids to simply act as kids that Asgore never had and for Undertale fanservice. I don't see Toby missing the opportunity of having the kids Asgore murdered be a faux family to him in another world.
>>739529654Suselle would just be baitfags that would end up incentivizing the Krusiebros to try even harder to cuck the deer.
>>739549558She's just like me for real...
>>739550124>to try even harder to cuck the deer.It is very funny that you think you actually have any power over this. Well, I suppose in a sense you do, there is the weird route, in which you can avert Suselle. But your Krusie fantasy will be nothing more than that, a fantasy, it's not happening, no matter how much you point to the supposedly "romantic" scenes you think it has. Suselle is going to happen, and I will laugh at how much you people cry about it once the reveal is made in Chapter 5, it's going to be so funny to see you cry about Toby baiting you or betraying you.
>>739550448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZILUhn5V24i imagine (undertale) asriel would like this song because he would relate to it in the way that he wants to delete his past and delete everything in generalbut then that middle section where the guy with the stereotypical dork voice happens, then i imagine berdley saying those words once he realizes no one wants himso i guess really its a berdly song. hes /ourguy/ after all
>>739550285I'm just saying what they will do, calm down dude. I don't care about shippingslop myself.
>>739550448>>739550487See, this is why I will never understand Kris, if he simply decided to play along we could just work together, and I would help him take revenge on everyone who has ever wronged him, we could be so powerful together. But he won't, he refuses to for some reason, and he forces me to use Noelle instead. I just don't understand, why Kris? Why are you making me do this? Why are you making me hurt Noelle? I don't want to, I want to work with you, why are you forcing me into this?
>>739523626Okay but that happened with lancer and susie got over it and stayed friends with him. Im sure Kris has a perfectly good reason for working with the enemy behind the scenes.
I find it so funny how Noelle is set up as this major character yet 70% of her importance comes from the stupid esoteric torture route.
>>739529818I like the fairytale idea, it's very Undertale like. I don't know if I like flowers being completely unrelated to everything, even Flowey, though.
>>739550885It doesn't help that, because of the horrible development time, it's been years since we've had her as a party member.
>>739550885most of what we know about one of the two kids kicked started the plot and the main reason why sans is so hyped up is from genocide. toby just does shit like this
>>739539936>>739539726>The whole class knows that Kris went with Susie to the closet and didnt come back until after school endedSo basically everyone thinks they are fucking right?
>>739530219I feel like this is just too much work for Toby. That would mean 7 different sections. This is the same guy that couldn't do three boards properly.
>>739550885Chances are we'll get a solo Kris & Noelle scene at the festival, it's the perfect place to go down memory lane. Lore wise Kris wants Noelle as far away as possible form the dark worlds because prophecy so it makes sense to an extent that she's sidelined for a decent part of the game.It's a little better than what he did with Chara and Asriel, they were the reason Undertale even happened but all the lore gets dumped at the end when he could have easily had snippets of it spread out through out the whole game.
>>739530259speak up
>>739530893As if Toby doesn't shipbait Krusie himself, lol.
>>739513332what, you don't check for mites and fleas in your bro's hair?
>>739530259>using the gloves as proof of anything >in a game with a tomboy and twink as major characters
>>739550641>We had a good thing, Kris!>We had Noelle, we had Susie >We had every furshit pussy we needed and it all ran like clockwork >You could’ve shut your mouth, get laid, and have as much sex as you wanted to forget Dess>It was perfect! But no, you just HAD to blow it up! >You! And your pride and your ego and Dess
>>739552243Homestuckfag. Knows that ship teasing drives discussions. He’s going to keep baiting everyone for as long as possible
>>739531859Cunningham is literally for midwits, what did you expect?
>>739550448>>739550487>loving childhood best friend>chill tomboy who’d die for him>copes and seethes that the older pothead didn’t rape himWhat’s his defect?
>>739552451Shipbaiting drives discussion and ship wars destroy fandoms
>>739538641>Easter eggs>GasterMysterious man behind the tree isn't Gaster.
>>739532996There's also Knight discussion and what's under Kris's pants discussion, too.
>>739536558>penumbra phantasm is a total nothingburger because toby can't get the composer's blessing for it because he's deadENTERPENUMBRA OF THESEUShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytcLsMX3N8
>>739534303All the big kiddos had him as their teacher so he hasn't been dead for that long.
>>739536558I don't know why people were obsessed over penumbra phantasm, Do people unironically want more homestuck in their deltarune?
>>739552513A single incident during your formative years/puberty and you're fucked for life
>>739532996we’re in a weird spot where we know to much to just make shit up but not enough to confidently say where the plot is going. The lack of any major fan content or big funny man to meme about (Tenna was literally just spamton 2.0)
>>739536314Penumbra Phantasm is a fandom meme, don't worry about it. Everything else is things we don't know and can't know so far. You're good, you don't need the hack to spoonfeed you.
>>739552583>taking the FemKrisfag seriouslyISHYGDDT
>>739552804FemKris is only part of human gender autism. People argue about Kris being a dude or not even before that got popular.
>>739552583That last part is just troons seething as they have been for years because they support the retarded lesbian ship and can't steal the usual feminist man/straight hating narrative for Kris.
>>739552804You can find it stupid but it’s pretty much the only theory this place wants to talk about and even then there’s only two directions for it. Either kris IS the girl and Kris’s genitals are plot essential or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS
>>739552934>implying your sexual deviant bullshit is remotely relevant Kek you have to samefag to hell in order to seem like others care about your shitty fantasy. Cope, and fuck off you fat fucking cunt
>>739553091i'm not the femkrisfag dumbass
>>739552934She's so cute when she's mad and embarassed...
>>739553091Why are you so obsessed with samefagging when it's only (you) who does it? Accuse others of what you are?
>>739553225Everyone is the same person for our local shitter.
>>739537584It's Ralsei, trust the plan. 5 is his chapter.
>>739552923>suselletroons sperg out about krusie/kriselle being “straight washing”>redditards chimp out and post cuck art >kris ships SUDDENLY get called “yuri”The gay shit is almost certainly out of spite for susellefags. shame this fanbase is too gay to just tell them to fuck off without any moral wafting.
>>739538641Gaster is in Deltarune since Chapter 1. I don't get these types of posts, he's already in the game, he's the first character we meet.
>>739552923Kris's gender discussions existed beyond that, people are so brainrotted nowadays.
>>739554306what would even cause Ralsei to get jealous? This is the same fuck who thinks asking Kris to give Susie ice cream in his name is a “selfish request”
>>739554508There's a lot of ways Toby can do it, mainly exploring Ralsei growing individuality.
>>739554306Doubt it. Ralsei is still in the ''I'm just a tool'' mindset. He'd have to place himself on the same level as Susie and Kris before sparking up grievances and that's at least a chapter long character arc. I do expect him to go full schizo towards the end tho
>>739552804>GirlKris autist managed to mindbreak everyone into associating and discussions of Kris’s gender or kris being a girl with itI kneel
>>739554705>everyone It's literally just one schizo that is already buckbroken over female humans
>>739539463True knowers knew he was the one being raped.>>739539551True!
>>739544079Dess...
>>739554967GOD I wish I was Kris in this pic
>>739554508>what would even cause Ralsei to get jealous?Asriel showing up and being literally him but better.Asgore's flowers being literally him but better.Another person/darkner being the actual prince of the dark and he being a literal nobody with no role in the story. He already sees himself as a tool, but now he won't even be a tool if he isn't part of the prophecy, and will be forgotten and turned to stone in some dumpster.No one wanting to be friends with him anymore for X motive yet to be revealed, abandoning him in the process.Its a stretch, really, but he probably can be jealous if you strip him of the only things that define him, being part of the prophecy and being friends with Susie/Kris. He waited his entire existence to meet both of them, and then loses it all, becoming irrelevant to the plot and to the two heroes.
everyone who shills femkris is one guy, everyone who shits on femkris is who one guy, NONE OF YOU ARE REAL, I’M THE ONLY ONE FREE
>>739550178She's just like us actually, for real (real)
>>739555287>everyone who shits on femkris is who one guy,No, just one guy that acts schizophrenic over it and humans are, he has obvious tells like shitting the thread and blaming humanposters (which he literally did last thread involving another freaking board)
>>739550885Like the other two anons said, Toby already did this in Undertale with Chara and Asriel. It's part of his style to only explore certain things in the endgame, at least with Noelle we know stuff about her before the endgame, that's a positive.
>>739555242Noelle is literally Ralsei but better so if she joins the party in the dark world again then there's the perfect excuse for Ralsei to get jealous.
>>739552451Toby knows exactly how to drive discussion, people underestimate his knowledge.
>>7395553054 real!
My furry fetish is so intense that completely sfw fanart paintings of Noelle give me a boner :/
>>739555242I mean I can believe kris ditching ralsei the moment he isn’t required for ze plan but I can’t imagine Susie doing the same seeing as a big part of her character is seeing darkners as people and not wanting ralsei to feel like just a tool
Todays doefags are just the Charafaggots of yesterday
>>739553568I like when my humans are happy, though.>>7395557815ever!
>>739555924It could be a misunderstanding or Susie not realizing she's ditching him.
>>739554671>I do expect him to go full schizo towards the end thoWe don't know when the inferno happens so that can be it.
>>739555671The Chara and Asriel thing might have been intentional, just like Flowey only appearing at the begging and end is. He wants you to fully immerse yourself into the world with minimal nagging worries at the back of your mind. There's already the looming threat of Asgore, adding any more could take away for the carefree attitude you get walking through the underground. I'm sure it could have been implemented better but it was easier to just save it for the end. Problem with deltarune is the episodic release that's taking a billion years to get done. It's gonna feel a lot better once you can play through the game from start to finish in a couple of sessions
>>739548303>There's just too many years of headcanon buildup to not disappoint everyoneToby doesn't give a single shit about dissapointing theoryfags. He actually finds it funny. See the Mike room. Gaster will be in Deltarune and you can just cope about it.
>>739556448Pretty sure its referring to ch5. Though I wouldn't take the things Gerson says as set in stone.
>>739552451God DeltaTravelers was a gem of shitty writing
>>739554443No dude, that's just a completely different 4th-wall breaking character who uses all of Gaster's motifs for no reason. I am very smart.
>>739556680its part of the prophecy so its definetly going to happen
>>739556658He already is in deltarune, he just won't appear in person.This isn't about theorists getting btfo, its about everyone who has more than a surface level understanding in UT/DR. There is a lot of hype behind him so whatever he does will disappoint, he's better of keeping him a mystery.
>>739556737Didn't have Kris literally saying to the screen "I am nonbinary" and whatever other headcanon the author believed in?
>>739556680I meant when in Chapter 5 it's happening. It could happen at the end of 5.
>>739538641I think he's just far too detached from the game world to ever make a proper appearance. Best you can get is FRIEND being Gaster's proxy due to him being a DEVICE like everything involved in the Goner Maker sequence.
>>739555190Same.
>>739557226Lewd humans...
>>739556958No? The only thing the prophecy says about ch5 is ''the flower man, trapped in asylum''. You can skip the Gerson boss and not get the ''terrible weapon'' so his worlds are not strict predictions
>>739557272the terrible weapon wasnt the hammer
>>739556537Oh no, I don't think Toby revealing Asriel and Chara in the end is accidental, it's definitely intentional so we can finally understand why Asgore declared war. Honestly Undertale is an excellent song so I still really like that scene. The episodic release ruins almost everything in Deltarune honestly.
>>739531406>Andrew LarpinghamI won't trust the theory of any guy who played Earthbound, OFF, and Cave Story, and could not separate them in the slightest from Undertale, to the point his opinions of all 3 are "Undertale did it better"
>>739556125She can be happy after!
>>739556658This. If Gaster showing up is essential to Toby's vision than he will be in Deltarune.
>>739557437fuck was it then?
The only ship I'm interested in is Toriel x Me
>>739557702ClaimbClaws
>>739557487>I won't trust the theory of any guy who played Earthbound, OFF, and Cave StoryYou might want to go ahead and close this thread.
>>739557272>you can skip the Gerson boss and not get the ''terrible weapon'' so his worlds are not strict predictionsNot just that, everything he said besides the chapter 1 is related to shadow crystals/optional stuff. "Do battle on chariots and SAVE THE QUEEN", we save the Queen from Spamton, he'd take over the castle if left alone (and he does take the castle in the weird route), getting a shadow crystal in the process."Isles of NorthernLight. Heroes catch a glimpse of a lost land", we explore the isles of northernlight to get the mantle and get the shadow crystal."Trial of the holy hammer" obviously, we get the hammer and we get the shadow crystal.
>>739557702Susie healing powers. Susie is gonna heal someone just like Ralsei did in chapter 1 with the King and is gonna suffer for that decision.
>>739557743>key Item>given by Jackensteinnigga...
>>739557056Yeah but as a Qrd for people who don’t know about that hood classic>game was based off the shitty “kris where the hell are we” meme with kris, Susie, and later Noelle entering different game universes>has a genocide route with Susie helping you kill everyone cause why not>Toriel has a mental breakdown over seeing Kris due to reminding her of Chara>Kris will rip YOU out and kill you if you’re mean to toriel (but not for all the murder lmao)>game spergs out if you kill anyone for any reason>second chapter is set in earthbound with Susie and Noelle shitting themselves if you kill a snake (they’ll still help you though) and genocide ends with you murdering two kids>there’s constant Suselle shilling >several scenes of kris talking how they’re “non-binary”>Dess is a troon who she’s Gaster with Frisk and immediately assumes he’s a pedo>next chapter is set in the creators Uber edgy underfell AU>fell Sans is an irredeemable psychopath who brags about killing child Susie>this scene was to heavily meme’d on the creator had to completely backtrack on it>Noelle and Susie learn that Kris is possessed and ditch kris during the genocide route (they immediately come crawling back to kris)>entire plot is that YOU are evil for playing a video game and that kris hate you not matter which route you pick>later chapters are planned to involve the legend of Zelda, Mario and Luigi, and fucking TOONTOWNit’s a mess
>>739557702Hope
>>739557487Wow I can't believe the UT/DR guy played older games that inspired Undertale and related them back to Undertale for his zoomer audience of UT/DR fans
I love Kris
>>739557978"Undertale did it better" is not relating it back to Undertale.
>>739557994t.dess
>>739557778Nobody actually played these games though
>>739558063Yes it is
>>739557778Did you stop reading the post halfway through?
>>739557257They naturally are.>>739557614That's better. Happy humans make happy heart.
>>739557949I know it's pre-Chapter 3 Kris but this all still feels very OOC. Hopefully if they rewrite it from the beginning Kris will act more like in canon.
>>739557867Ralsei gave her those tho.
>>739558274Her healing sucked though, Gerson gave her confidence to actually use it properly
>>739557949You forgot the part where kris has a talk sprite that looks like a mentally ill e girl
>>739555924Susie's gonna set everything on fire.
>>739557614Jesus Christ, my limbs are less hairy than that.
>>739558363>kris has a talk sprite that looks like a mentally ill e girlAnd that's a good thing!
>>739558493When did you start HRT?
Did you know?In the Japanese version of Deltarune, Ralsei likes girls
>>739556658>mikefags still seething
>>739558712Heterosexual Ralsei was always endgame and if you think otherwise you lack any and all understanding of Deltarune. It was clear since Clover in the first chapter.
>>739558712This is also FemKris proof somehow.
>>739557949>Dess is a troon who she’s Gaster with Frisk and immediately assumes he’s a pedoDess is too into old Undertale fanart confirmed
>>739558827No, he's rightToby's not changing his story to give people what they think they want, and he does think it's funny to fuck with them
>>739557994December Holiday...
>>739557949i'm starting to understand why this is site thinks toby is based when THIS is what a deltarune written by tumblr troons looks like
>>739558363Kris would be that.>>739558493Kris would also have poor hygiene.
>>739558712Is this a reference to something? I can't imagine why that'd be the case otherwise.
>>739558712Wait, what. Why the fuck did they have to censor song lyrics for a fake, moderately edgy rock song in Japan?
>>739558363Kris is spiritually a mentally ill e-girl.
>>739559212It's not LITERALLY censored. Ralsei censors it because he doesn't like the lyrics.
>>739558712Just because a boy is effeminate it doesn't mean he's a raging homosexual. Toby likes to mix up traditional gender norms
>>739559108The JP localization has him replacing the lyrics with a generic love song instead of making up soft and sweet nonsense on the spot>>739559212Anon, Ralsei "censors" the violent lyrics in the original game
>>739557614MFs will draw kris with tits and wearing a bra and still shit lose their shit if you call their kris a girl
>>739519738List of lightners that go to church, know the mayor, and have something to do with the cops>Toriel>Rudy>NoelleThat's basically it. All of their associations with the cops have to do with Asgore, who might also fit into the list but it seems like he doesn't attend church anymore. Asriel was a good church boy so he also fit the bill when he was in hometown.
>>739559427>That's basically it. All of their associations with the cops have to do with Asgore, who might also fit into the list but it seems like he doesn't attend church anymore.He does, just at night.
>>739559075>hairy swamp ass Kris coochie
>>739559427
>>739559074Toby has immense restraint, the fags who complain about him have no idea how much worse he could be
>>739557487>>739557778huh. I guess the only game I have to play left is OFF then
>>739559212Because Ralsei does that in the US version.
>>739558712>directly oversees the japanese translation to make sure it maintains his "vision">major sections are still differentbruh
>>739559427The entire Holiday and Dreemurr families fit Susie's profileSusie doesn't know that because she doesn't know Asgore used to be chief of policeShe also can't figure out the prime suspect, because she doesn't know about the incident where Kris and "someone else" already got into the Shelter>* You OK, Kris?>* ...What's...the deal with this place?>* ...Well, you don't gotta talk about it.
>>739559689its more a localization rather than a direct one to one translation
>>739559689Japanese is the canon languageDess wasn't 100% known to be female until chapter 2 for filthy gaijin either
>>739559689A proper localization cannot and should not be a 1:1 translation of the original script. It should be a retelling of the story told in a way that is fluent to the language it is being translated to. Some jokes, lyrics and dialogue have to be rewritten, and as long as the translation is supervised, reviewed, accepted and perhaps even partially written by the writer of the original script, it will maintain the vision (though some retards think otherwise).
>>739557487>Watch him play OFF>He enters the first and easiest combat encounter in the game>Stops to talk to chat>Dies because it's an ATB battle system and the enemies are wailing on him while he's twiddling his thumbs>Gets mad about it because he expected it to be a purely turn-based gameForget the Undertale fans never played Earthbound meme, Undertale fans haven't played RPGs period.
>>739559689He essentially rewrites the whole thing to fit jap culture and way of speaking better. It's why it takes so long to get it done
>>739559689"WHEN THE MOM IS KISS GOODNIGHT" isn't important and would be even more gibberish and not fit the song at all if you just Google Translated it 1:1Any localization changes do maintain "Toby's vision" by definition because he approved of them
>>739560009>it's an ATB battle systemew, guess I'm not playing that shit either
>>739560113What's wrong with ATB systems?
>>739560151I don't like them.
>>739560187Could you be more specific?
>>739560187Why?
Kris is used up.
>>739559689it's impossible to convey context through direct translation, so you inevitably have to compromise when it comes to certain jokes and dialogue. The same rhyme in English can't be said in Japanese.
>>739560005There's not enough art of Toriel in her cute sleepwear
>>739560225>>739560228
Speaking of jap pandering. They get their own newsletter don't they? Did anyone go in and comb through 'em to see if there's any extra info hidden in their version?
>>739560357I'm starting to think you don't knwo what an ATB system is
>>739560235Gaped
>>739560383It's the same as ours just translated.
>>739560235How does a teen not immediately get it back up after the first nut? He sounds like a bottom bitch
>>739560235Pregnant.
>>739560450I've played Final Fantasy and I don't care for it.Turn-based is better, simple as.
>>739560523Yeah but the jap version of delta sometimes reveals a but more than the english version, like Kris not being able to go to the dark world without the soul while our version is pretty vague on it
>>739560652I don't believe you've played Final Fantasy. Undertale fans don't play RPGs.
>>739559962>Dess wasn't 100% known to be femaleLiterally only troons doubted that
>>739560902I like Undertale and I've played several other RPGs. I'm fine with ATB but not with people who lump it in with turn based, and prefer the game to have a Wait mode.
>>739559689translating songs in a such a way that they still fit the original timing, rhythm, etc. is very difficult
>>739560902
>>739557949Also don't forget the creator was confident that this is where deltarune would go with kris and were laughing at toby for "figuring it out"Of course when ch 3 and 4 dropped and it wasn't that, they all went into hiding to "rework" the thing
>>739560235Gaped and pregnant
>>739560973and umriss anon
>>739560987Yeah, I can agree with that. Wait modes are basically mandatory if you want to play the game comfortably your first time through, and then it's kinda pointless since RPGs are often dozens of hours long so there's no point in replaying it just to experience a slightly harder mode.
>>739561021source?
What do we think the "fallen star" story is about?Is the "glass" that grows from the "bitter water" The Knight? Or The Prophecy?
>>739561214their twitter
>>739559689Toby localized Undertale and Deltarune to fit in with jp culture. That's another reason he can't do another translation, he doesn't know their culture for a proper localization.
>>739561453glass growing from water = ice
Would this fix how people perceive him?
>>739560902I played Persona and Mario and Luigi games.
We're reaching insane levels of WAITing, you know it's bad when we're reinterpreting agreed-upon definitions
>>739562036Doesn't help that toby's usual well of bullshit newsletters has run dry for some strange reason. The cutting room floor for chapter 3 and 4 must be littered with an insane number of spoilers so he can't just jingle keys like he did for chapter 2.
>>739562225>for some strange reasonThe reason being it's almost done and there's no point in opening his mouth if it's not for a release date.
>>739562036>you know it's bad when we're reinterpreting agreed-upon definitionsWhen did we do that?
>>739559074the main reason why people here argue about kris not being non-binary is because if literally any other faggot wrote this game they'd constantly have kris scream about it every five seconds (see deltatravelers)
Let's just wait but I mean even if Nintendo announces a Direct and we don't have any news in any event, Something wrong is happening with the release date of chapter 5.
>>739512936fag
>>739562036>reinterpreting agreed-upon definitionsSuch as?
>>739562402>The reason being it's almost doneIn a sense, yes, though it's still at least +1 month away
>>739562870For something that's been in production for most of this decade, that's very very close to release. No need to be myopic.
>>739562964That's why I said in a sense.
>>739562036>>739562225two weeks until the 3/4 anniversary trust the plan if he doesn't make any statement by June 5, we're officially screwed
>>739562996Sure but that statement also implies that in another sense, it isn't close to release. Which is just stupid.
>>739563058>if he doesn't make any statement by June 5, we're officially screwedWhy are you saying this? You know you'll simply cope next by saying "no guys it's totally coming in the next direct which is happening this month!!!!!"
Why did she do it...?
>>739563058>if he doesn't make any statement by June 5, we're officially screwed...unless it's being announced in the Nintendo Direct which is always mid-June
>>739562623Also because this isn't Reddit, that too.
Remember when people use to draw “C Holiday” as a depressed MILF version of Noelle?
>>739562764Is this that weird Chasriel artist?
>>739563162it would be so funny if it was in the state of play
>>739563108>>739563162June 5 is a very special date now, if he doesn't do as much as saying "happy birthday 3/4, testing for 5 is still going" on bsky then there is something really weird going on behind the scenes.
>>739563314Schizophrenia
>>739563276I rememberdidn't think she'd be the actual grinch though
>>739561930I'm not scrolling through all that just to find the quote, someone had to have saved a screenshot.
>>739563379What, expecting Toby to say something on an important anniversary is this much of a schizo post?The wait has really broken this place.
>>739559689Toby didn’t anticipate people to be autistic enough to look at the translation of a censored song to determine if Ralsei is straight or not.
>>739562036iirc there was radio silence during the ch3/4 console testing phase with a sudden reveal on the direct in april. He would have (probably) said something by now if the chapter was still multiple months away so no news is actually good. Dropping any day now!
>>739563314>on bsky then there is something really weird going on behind the scenes.The "weird" thing going on behind the scenes is two things. First is him not wanting to speak until there's a release date, and there's a chance there's not a release date yet at that date, and second, and I know there's a bunch of people who will vehemently refuse to believe this, he doesn't want to engage in frivolous posting because he knows all the replies he's gonna get is gonna be spics angry about there not being a translation, so he doesn't feel like posting anything.
>>739563161She wanted to become human
>>739563279perchance>>739563314>June 5 is a very special date nowToby famously didn't acknowledge the last "Deltarune anniversary" at all and people crashed out about it for no reasonIt's perfectly reasonable for him to wait for the formal release announcement/trailer in an event before posting a more in-depth announcement/newsletter on the website.That's exactly what he did with the Chapter 3+4 release, there were THREE pre-release newsletters in between the trailer in April and its release in June.https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>>739563609Post the weird picture of Asriel having a freakout.
>>739563314expecting special dates only makes THE WAIT hurt even more
>>739563161She wanted a human to be inside her
>>739563557the latinx drama is officially over in favour of toby because of the huemonkeys leaking tadcactually insane that he was vindicated on it so quickly
>>739563557Him being scared of the latinxes is one of the possible weird things.>>739563609Toby doesn't acknowledges the demo anniversary and probably sees the dates for 1 and 2 the same way. 3/4 was a paid release and also a very anticipated event, one year after that is inherently a big deal.
>>739563868>Him being scared of the latinxes is one of the possible weird things.In your dreams.
>>739563314Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked that Toby considers Deltarune's anniversary on the 4th, so news in two more weeks unironically.
>>739563868He used to acknowledge it until last year actually.
>>739563609What's the artist name?
Well, at least we won't really need any sort of trailer to hype up Chapter 5's release, since this chapter will be released AS SOON as it's finished completely, right? We won't need to wait 2 months after getting a teaser with a release date, right...?
>>739564028Yeah, I expect a maximum of a 2 weeks wait.
Canon Kris boob size at the end of the thread.
>>739564028>since this chapter will be released AS SOON as it's finished completely, right?I would like to believe this but given that he has mentioned there are other things to do after testing, bugfixing, console certification and porting, I think there's a chance that he might actually want to do a trailer, which will only delay the release. The worst part is, since he doesn't want to spoil anything, the trailer might very well be just the stupid dog going on screen and saying "Chapter 5 out now!". This retarded stunt could delay the release of the already complete chapter for weeks at worst.
>>739564028(laughs)(does not answer)
can't even have a krusie thread anymore without washouts from /utg/ showing up
>>739564000That was a very loaded year, and we also got the UT 10th anniversary not too far from Halloween.>>739564028I hope this time he has the decency of releasing it on a Friday or Saturday.
>>739564141Need to get my vessel back so I can suck on them
>>739564174>/utg/ Woah man CENSOR THAT SHIT at least
>>739564174You will suffer so much when Suselle is confirmed in Chapter 5, I'm looking forward to it.
>>739564141Wondering when you’d show up
>>739564141This but for the other two humans.
>>739564174nah we don’t have any erp here YET
>>739564028He's definitely going to wait a while after the release date announcement just so news reaches as many people as possible. A couple of days is plenty time for that. Having to wait two more months after the reveal like last time would suck ass and kill the hype immediately
>>739564174Still better than last thread with the actual shitters from /vrpg/
>>739560235>>739560587Please be kind to Kris...
>>739564149he better at least show a snippet of the dark world, last time he showed the titan
>>739564418Dang
>>739564418I hate piss fetish
>>739564418Please stop breathing
>>739564418You just had to post that, didn't you
>>739564418I love girls pissing
>>739564174all the krusiefags left several months ago
>>739564149>which will only delay the releaseThe dev team isn't directly or indirectly involved in most of the pre-release things. Most of the team has already moved on to chapter 6. A trailer wouldn't take much if any additional time at all.
>>739564559The few remaining ones are in their /sus/ refuge in /trash/, that's their last remaining holdout, but they too will be crushed when Chapter 5 releases.
>>739564559they're dormant until ch5dreaming krusie dreams
>>739564559Krusiefags are a myth, Doefags must outnumber them 5 to 1The only time anyone promotes Krusie on here is in opposition to the Suselle boogieman (which has zero actual representation on here)
>>739564542I got an artist you might like
>>739564241Yeah, that word always attracts our local redditor.
>>739564748suselle has excessive representation on Toby's head, which is the only thing that matters
>>739564559susiebros don’t leave they go into hibernation after feeding off two chapters worth of hopium.
Erm ackshually it’s squirt not pee, I know they are basically the same thing but, you see, technically the distinction matters because female ejaculation and urination originate from different physiological processes. Urine is produced continuously by the kidneys, stored in the bladder, and expelled as metabolic waste through the urethra. Squirting, meanwhile, is associated with sexual stimulation and involves fluid expelled during orgasm or intense arousal, often linked to the Skene’s glands, which are sometimes referred to as the female prostate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMgGpID0Uw0
>>739564418>>739564542>>739564752humanbros… this is not a good look for us…
>>739564028If Toby wants to keep Ch5 under wraps that hard, I don't think we'll get a substantial trailer but an announcement that Chapter 5 is close. How close? I'm praying for a week away.
>>739564559I never left. I just don't post about it all the time because that shit gets annoying.
>>739564174>>739564249the insufferable countershipping in such a scenario will make these threads unusable for a month
>>739564959Friskfags want to fuck a manlet skeleton, Krisfags have to share a room with troons, and Charafags are the prototype for doetards.
>a short spoiler-free trailer will take the ENTIRE dev team WEEKS and WEEKS to makethis is what doomfags actually believe
>>739565095It will last longer than a month, and it's going to be so much fun!
there's a rumour for a nintendo direct in a couple weeks, right?i'm certain that it's the ninjas preventing toby from speaking about the game until then
>>739564919What you said is true, but that was also definitely just an image of Kris pissing themself edited to say "cum" instead of "piss"https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=13996568
>>739561453>laugh at and ignore christianity as a kid, a natural atheist/agnostic>now an adult, realize most good stories are at least partially based off the bible>didn't read it as a kidit's over, i'm never gonna be able to make kino
>>739565268Likely on both counts, yeah. Toby loves to prostrate himself before Nintendo, as seen with how he obviously delayed 3 and 4 to coincide with the Switch 2 release.
>>739565120Friskfags want to fuck Frisk, false. She truly is the best to separate who knows their shit and who doesn't.
>>739565095y'all will wish my mikefagging back
>>739565120>Charafags are the prototype for doetards.completely wrong, doefags like noelle's outward innocence which chara doesn't have
>>739565332It is too bad you cropped out that bottom part, that's really hot
>>739565268He doesn't need ninjas to stay silent about his baby. >>739565197fuck that, may as well jump ship to the SS Yellow if the local Deltatards are too busy dilating over the most obvious development in the game to talk about anything else>>739565413you can keep it
A whole thread without doe rape. I'm impressed and disappointed
>>739565525>may as well jump ship to the SS Yellow if the local DeltatardsThat's what the HMOFAfags are going to be doing first
>>739512936tranime belongs to /a/
>>739565437Yeah, he's just saying shit.
>>739565576Innocent girls are for love and respect
>>739565525>you can keep itwhat if I go to the yellow threads too?old kanako whining used to be very similar in spirit
>>739565576Don't you worry, you'll never be escaping it in a post Ch5 world.
>Doe waifufagsRefined gentlemen of aristocratic spirit and blood, destined to be kings>Krusie shipfagsAverage peasant>Suselle shipfagsstreet sweepers
>>739565576AIslop lost, Susie won
>>739566071>kralsei boyloversgods on earth
>>739566289holy BASED
>>739564283I'm always here.
>>739564308This but for the cowgirl.
>>739566553why is krissy fat
>>739566601That's a kissable butt
>>739566635Too much pie.
>>739566601Nice ass.
