What went wrong?
no switch 2 date release yet.
Nothing./threadSPBP
no poise
>>739513523reddit
>>739513428wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.Fromslop didnt realise an open world game needs more than "head to checkpoint, kill boss" repeated 100 times.
>>739513428every boss jumps in the air 40 times before you can get one hit in
>>739513428Shadow of the Erdtree is the most major flaw of the game, and not because it's actively horrible, but because it was mediocre and didn't add enough to gameplay, content, lore. Aside from that, all multiplayer functionality of the game is subpar and ultimately unworth even interacting with. No covenants or covenant rewards, multiplayer makes PvE content trivial and bad, no point in engaging in multiplayer unless you're a stinky autist who enjoys fiddling with jank trash pointlessly.
>>739513690?Name a single game that did the sandbox format better in the past 25 years.
>>739513690>wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.like lucarnia eh
>>739513592There is poise and it's good. None of the games will ever have the no-brain turn the game off poise ever again
>>739513807its not a sandbox game, there is only one activity to do.
The game is over 25 hours in, midway through Liurnia. After that it's nonstop repetition.
>>739513810liurna of the lakes*
>shazamtrannies still buttblasted 4 years later
>>739513428Too bloatedSpreadsheet gaming balanceSchizo on/off difficulty curveBad pvpTerrible lore
>>739513428Dunno still playing it
>>739513428>copy paste Dark Souls 3 (the worst Souls game up until that point)>add a million miles of empty terrain where literally nothing happens between each level>copy paste every enemy and boss 100x to fill the space, even unique named story bosses >add crafting and a horse because normalfags lap that shit up >add bonfires before every boss so there's absolutely no consequence to any mistake ever, but give every boss 99 hit combos to compensate >randomly sprinkle god mode weapons and spells around the map so that newfags who got filtered by the previous games can follow a youtube guide to get overpowered in 10 minutes It's just a confused clusterfuck of a game. Japan has never made a good open world.
mortal kombat 3 tier input reading by bosses to give streamers something to gape their mouths at
>>739514292>>copy paste Dark Souls 3 (the worst Souls game up until that point)2fag revisionism never stops being funny
>>739513807>sandbox>can only use a single weapon per run (40 hours)
>>739513862Accurate
>>739514390What game are you talking about now? Since it clearly isn't Elden Ring.
>>739514446it is, there are not enough crafting stones to fully upgrade more than a single weapon unless you're some speedrun exploit tranny
>>739514285Main complaints is I need a guide to do plot stuff as it's way too vague. I missed all the moon witch stuff untilI looked it up about why I see her art everywhere but I haven't interacted with her and I'm on the final boss.
>>739514629You really don't have to do that quest line. It's recommended as it's got some neat things (and the lake of rot) along the way, but it is optional.
>>739514598nta, but you unlock bearings for all the stones except the final stone, and there are several of each, not to mention +24 is perfectly fine
>>739514629there's nothing vague about ranni's questline, you simply are too much of a simpleton and never bothered to explore or talk to people
Why is this the only modern game with a manic, rabid hatebase? The majority of other modern games have already been kinda forgotten by this board.
>>739515498this board is comprised of brain dead losers who only watch streamers play games. souls slop is quintessential stream bait
>>739515498it's a lot of projection because dark souls 1 fans take themselves way too seriously. so when from pushes out a dlc that doubles down on what they hated about the design in the base game and all the lore additions take a fat shit on whatever youtuber's headcanon they got their opinions from, they can't do anything but lash out impotently.
It's a good game for a single playthrough. After that discovery is replaced with tedium. I honestly prefer games like Lies of P or Dark Souls 1 for multiple playthroughs.
>>739513807It's not a fucking sandbox.Is this the average intelligence of Fromdrones?
>>739513428The DLC was kinda bad
>>739515498Old heads and uncs that consume media as their primary pursuit are defined by cultural puritanism. Where the average socially adjusted person may or may not play a game based on preference and leave it at that, a videogame puritan has to crusade for and against games that fall inside or outside their excepted puritan canon. This is why the acceptance of something outside the puritan's canon causes them immense psychic damage and compels them to create these threads or manifests in the form of 10-hour long critique videos. It is the epitome of an utterly powerless person seething.
>>739515646Can't people just like and dislike things anon?
>What went wrong?>Literally the best arpg in the last 20 years.Like, I'm trying really hard to enjoy Relink because it's pretty and I paid for it, but the whole time I'm thinking, "why couldn't there just be an Elden Ring 2?"
>>739515692I said exactly that in the post. A reasonable person does this and moves on with their lives. They don't become possessed by it for years on end and try to convince people to dislike something.
>>739513428Gigantic open world that is actually worthless so once you play the game once you have no desire to replay it because 90% of the content is ass and isn't interesting past the first experienceAdd to that the stupid input readings from the enemies and boss and you have a game that isn't fun to play but made to make you mad
>>739515698Glad you like it anon, genuinely. I enjoyed beating it myself, though some of the bosses anime attacks were tedious once you figured out the timing. Then again I enjoyed Dark Souls 2's shitty bosses so I can't really say much.
>>739515824Honestly, how I felt about all of them. They're not really worth replaying once you've seen everything.
>>739515863I liked replaying DS3 because it's very short once you know it and fun to try different build even though I keep ending up as a strchad
>>739513512Can it even run it at all?
>>739515962That's how I feel about Lies of P. I'm currently working my way through AI Limit and holy shit parry is overpowered as fuck in this game.
>>739515845One of the hidden keys in Elden Ring's combat and enjoying it is realizing that it actually punishes you quite a bit for being too defensive. Melenia was an afternoon for me, while she's apparently a days-long process for most people who first time her. The boss is designed to flinch, though, and the goal is to recognize when she has hyper armor and when she doesn't. You should have a good weapon and form a relationship with it. My favorite just happened to be Eleonora's.
>>739515698>>Literally the best arpg in the last 20 years.It still doesn't beat playing DS1 blind for the first time
Open worldCasualizationSpirit ashes shouldn't be in the game. Miyazaki is retarded for ever allowing that mechanic to exist.
>>739516098nta, but if DS1's backend wasn't so shitty, it would rank higher. I can't put it over BB, DES, or Sekiro because of all the shitty levels
>>739513428I finished it so there is no reason to play anymore. At best I could try to change a build and do a different ending, DLC is too expensive to get.
>>739516098You know, I did both, and I don't know if I agree with that. Ds1 was just an extension of basement dweller life for me, though, while Elden Ring was the first game I played after I felt safe and secure enough to splurge on gaming systems again. There was just this years long binge where I didn't play games, and I got back and hooked THAT fucking thing up. It was overwhelmingly brilliant.
>>739513862it's wild they decided to put the most bullshit boss near the beginning of the game, like they were saying "this is bullshit game, use bullshit to win, dont bother getting gud"
>>739513428Everything outside of a handful of remembrance bosses is just way too easy. You never have to turn your brain on when playing the levels.
>>739513523simple as/thread
>>739513862>>739516371Morgott's attack feints are the best thing they added to the bosses. Roll niggers take psychic damage if they can't spasmodically mash the "no damage button." Having to actually walk backward or block is a world-ending event for them
>>739516174>>739516392Went back and replayed DS2 after finishing ER and was humbled by how harder the regular enemies are in that game compared to ER's filler mobs. ER has more complex bosses but they all get trivialized by magic and summons and whatever
>>739513428On first playthrough you willfully ignore how fucking awful all the open world slop isOn starting a second playthrough, just after the character creation, you start thinking and realize>Holy fuck, this game FUCKING SUCKS
>>739516098It does actually DS1 is a baby game
Nothing, it's perfect, and it makes trannies like >>739516620 kill themselves
>>739513428Killing PvP and everything that went with it. Getting rid of covenants made it so casuals don’t want to invade, I can’t be invaded because I hate playing souls game with people, but the taunter’s tongue means invasions happen every couple minutes so you can’t get casual invasions and it’s just dudes geared out to PvP because they’re only invading guys waiting for them or groups of people, no covenants means there’s no hotspot locations(forest/rat/bell bros) where you’re on your toes, but even getting rid of the PvE stuff started with DS3, which is lame because the DS2 dark one was a good idea. The rewards for invasions are lame, souls and a rune arc, both things are really easy to obtain just playing the game, I didn’t even use rune arcs until Malenia, because I didn’t need them. It’s just boring without random dudes invading you in random spots, and even if I do invade, all I get out of if it is crappy stuff I have in spades, fighting dudes who are ganking me or people with gear that is meant for killing other players, not gear they used to clear the game like I invade with and people used to do. It’s still a fun game, but it lacks the charm of 1/2. Still a better game than 3 though.
>>739516948>Killing PvP and everything that went with it.Game is super active in PvP
>>739516098the first time you step out of the catacombs and enter limgrave, is a magical feeling
>>739516620>thinking about going through Caelid again>thinking about the snow areas post-Leyndell>thinking about Farum Azula
>>739513428Open world is not really a great fit for the Souls formula IMOI don't feel like the over-the-top boss movesets are a good fit for the slower/limited player gameplay. It can be a little too tedious and reactionary if you play it with limitations (sticking with your own build and no summons) but too easy when using all the tools and somewhat uninteractive
>>739517010PvP can be active but it’s mostly duels, which is just sweaty people using the most optimal builds or if you do invade, it’s garbage like I stated before because it’s ganks or people waiting for you. The system sucks, it’s not spontaneous, it’s all neat and tidy, like summons. Most people are just summoning their buddies, not randoms. And why should I help anyone anymore? The rewards are useless, there’s no covenant to farm or even cosmetic aura. FS was stupid and listened to the retards hating on invasions, not realizing the most engaging and worthwhile part of the game was random invasions or random dudes assisting you.
>>739517274This guy is a larper and has never played elden ring
>>739517362I played it 13 times though
>>739513862I don't think this is fair to the main game. Margit is a pretty good and fair early game boss. The dlc is another story, still can not bring myself to finish it.
>hourly Elden Ring seethe thread
>>739517274Imagine trying to beat Elden Beast with melee. Lol. I don't think I ever beat it solo. Every time I had to get people to join and use some kind of magic.
>>739517309>it’s not spontaneousIt wasn't spontaneous even in Demon's Souls, since very quickly, duelers basically staked out every hotspot with optimal builds, and it was full of ganksquads too. It's very rarely you can get a "legit invasion" (aka a total scrub you kill in 5 seconds while you pilot the most meta build possible), but RL1 invasions have a tons of just random co-op that isn't gank squads.
>>739513428pretty great game
>>739517407The DLC only has one bad boss (Gaius)
It's a game made for normies to think they're playing a hard game. Unironically felt like a retard after beating it, what an utter waste of time
>>739517576I can invade in DS3 now and fight dudes just doing a play through, I’ve been invaded a handful amount of times and able to win with my not minmaxed character and the crappy katana against whatever weapon they have(I can also lose against their crappy stuff too). I’ve been invaded one time by a dude that was clearly minmaxing his stats, and doing meta weapons and gear. I would have lost if I didn’t get a blue boy to come in and help(I put it on to help them get their ears for the covenant). But that’s much better than the experience I had with ER invasions.Yes, sweats always appear as do metas, but the fact that single player dudes can’t be invaded unless they explicitly wish to be means running into non-meta non min max characters is almost impossible.
>>739518081I don't think a hard game exists. There isn't a game I haven't played I haven't beaten.
it's just dark souls with a lick of paint
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>>739518113>I can invade in DS3 now and fight dudes just doing a play throughYou can do this in ER too. >I’ve been invaded a handful amount of times and able to win with my not minmaxed character and the crappy katana against whatever weapon they have(I can also lose against their crappy stuff too).I don't understand. This can happen in ER too. You.can even go to the arena and fight totally un-tuned builds with like 1khp.>but the fact that single player dudes can’t be invaded unless they explicitly wish to beThis was the case since Demon's Souls with body form. You literally have to participate in some way to be invaded. In fact, the most blood stains in Demon's Souls is in the nexus for players killing themselves to not be invaded. Also, invasions work fine and as long as you're not in the 120 range, a lot of it is just going to be a couple randoms co-oping.
>>739518505?Game took me less than a day to beat. The fuck?
The compass and level designs make invasions in Elden Ring boring. But the single player is bretty good.
>>739518081You didn't beat shit.
>>739518825Souls PvP is dog shit. It's shuffling back and forth and poking.
I hope from gives us an actual game next, not just health bars to deplete and enemy dance moves to memorize. The levels in ER never have any sense of danger in them. Except the chariots, and even those started to feel boring once you saw them for the third time. Everything else is just pressure plates, unironically chalice dungeons were better than this shit.
>>739519161Agreed. But the game of cat and mouse used to at least be funny.
>>739518545>you can do this in ER too. No you literally can’t, I’ve said this multiple times now. You CAN’T invade me, because I have no summons and I’m not sitting there waiting for you with a taunter’s tongue active. So no, random, unplanned, off the wall invasions are not possible, unlike DS1-3. >second paragraph You literally can’t read. A duel is not an invasion, whether it’s a duel with duel summons or the arena, duels by themselves are planned and meditated, it’s not me walking through Stormveil castle or whatever, with only 2 estus left, rushing for the Grace, and hoping the red isn’t hiding behind a corner. It’s me staring at a dude that wants me to let him do his dumb emote, drink his flask to buff himself, buff his weapons, and angrily message me/post it on Reddit if I drink an estus. It’s not the same, and once again, I see no reason to invade because I get no reward out of it other a gank fight or dude’s using the tongue, no covenant item, red/blue aura, nothing. DS1-3 you could be invaded without summons, just being human(I’m just using 1’s terms for simplicity) was enough. Your chances got raised with more summons, but so did multiple invasions. You could also be punished in 1/2 by blue boys if you invaded too much and amassed sin. Shoot, in DS2, you could be invader as hollow, you had to use humanity at a bonfire to stop invasions(or kill the boss).The game killed natural PvP and PvE, it’s not random invasions, they’re waiting 9 times out of 10, the summons are rarely randoms, it’s their buddy(if people even use summons, they just use ashes, which is another entirely different issue), and even if those two things weren’t issues, invading is pointless because covenants don’t exist.
>>739513428Your transition, you repugnant nintardog serf.The fact that Elden Ring still makes you subhumans seethe so hard your axrwound pops only elevates it in my eyes.
>>739513807Skyrim?
>>739513428they abandoned the experience of carefully exploring nooks and crannies because there's a dangerous world out to kill you and replaced it with epic anime boss fights
>>739519394>No you literally can’t, I’ve said this multiple times now.You said, "I can invade guys gmdoing a playthrough." I can do this in ER. The fuck? I didn't bother reading the rest of your post because you keep repackaging your argument.
>>739516948I can invade basically instantly across the entire level range of ER below like 150 and face casuals, you just have to face 2-3, and that's fine.
>>739513862expedition 33 is worse i'm pretty sure something you fight literally does this exact thing
>>739517075Whats wrong with these areas
>>739513428nerfed enemy AI to appease the casuals>blanket ranged AI nerf>blanket heal punish nerf>blanket multi enemy fight AI nerfthis fundamentally changes several iconic fights and situations>radahns arrows at the start of his fight can be avoided by running at him at an angle>ballistae arent scary anymore and dont require strategy because they will always miss if you are moving on torrent, they also dont shoot as far. much less interesting encounters.>crystilian boss fight were gutted to the point they may as well have been removed from the game>godskin heal punish changes the fight from an opressive dual where you need ot bait attacks in order to heal during the recovery frames to being just another generic mini boss fight where you can out sustain them with flasks without punishment.
>>739516532morgott doesnt have feints. There arent any feints in elden ring, there are only feints in Lies of P (and it is completely dogshit gameplay design btw)Elden ring has delayed attacks which are not feints. Also morgotts delayed attack is so telegraphed when it is going to land that if you complain about it you might be an actual retard.
>>739521768You can always spot the souls newfag. Bosses should not be input reading, and most certainly not to the extreme extent as you see in ER. Demon's and Dark Souls didn't need this shit. There's no defending it.
>>739521972its just a high IQ thing. if you are low IQ you squeel and piss yourself over enemies reacting to your actions, if you are high IQ then you realize that in a real world scenario thats what an enemy would be doing so you outsmart them with your strategy/tactics.Yes even in dark souls 1 people complained about black knights charging you when you healed in front of them and we always used to call those people retarded. Yet now suddenly im the newfag for laughing at you retards, great. Tell me more about how you started playing souls 5 years ago though.
>>739521551reddit told me they were bad
>>739521867I don't know what you're talking about. He can end combos with a dagger throw and sometimes he'll hold his hand out to fake the throw and not throw. Also, he can do this randomly with the big overhead.
200+ bosses was way too much for a soulslike. I came in with a dark souls mentality that I should explore every zone and beat as many bosses as I can before doing my ending. Granted I did beat it but got too fucking burnt out halfway through Erdtree. Maybe I'm just getting old but I feel like trimming it down to 60 hours base game and 30 hour expansion would have been better using the best parts.
>>739521972>Bosses don't read inputs... >in Demon's Souls kek
>>739513428The game's lasting success and surprisingly good player count all these years later indicates nothing went wrong. It's just not be for you.
>>739522462an attack that surprises you because it is fast is not a feint. >A feint attack is a deceptive or pretended strike designed to trick an opponent. The goal is to make the defender react to the fake move, leaving them open or vulnerable in a different area.So in video game terms that would be like Margit holding up his staff in a big delayed attack then doing a 1 frame kick instead of using the sword which you were paying attention to (this literally happens in lies of P btw, lol)
>>739522762Sure. Whatever you want to call it. He'll cancel an attack.
>>739516371I find it brilliant, actually. They put a massive wall of bullshit right at the start of the intended progression to encourage you to stop thinking the game has any intended progression at all and explore as much as you can (or at least go to the peninsula) to gear up and upgrade your shit.Or you can smash your head against the wall until it breaks. Your choice, really.
>>739513428Playing it right now, and honestly pretty much every optional boss being just a reskin, also the shitty caves and mine dungeon, like i enjoyed proper dungeons like Stormveil and the Liurnia academy but the rest are just lameJust defeated Radanh
>>739522502you can treat the game like a standard souls boss rush and just do the required bosses and you will have the appropriate level for the next story boss.I watched some guys stream and he farmed giants in limgrave for 5 hours and got to level 45, for reference a good player will beat stormviel castle within like 20 minutes of making a new character and be level 30 already just from the boss xp, and will catch up to that streamer in another 20 minutes by the time he finishes liurnia. the extra content in between the main bosses hardly affects your level, and even then an extra 15 levels is like 15% more damage which means you kill a boss in like 27 hits instead of 30, its really not a big deal.
>>739522978>beat stormviel castle within like 20 minutesthese good palyers just bumrush the level? is it really that easy to run past everything?
>>739522831he doesnt cancel an attack but he might cancel recovery frames to do a fast dagger attack if you are standing in the wrong place. which is kinda trial and error, to be fair. thankfully it does way less damage than normal attacks.The only time bosses "cancel" attacks if when they are doing a melee move and you run like twice the range of the move away then they will stop what they are doing and start up a gap closing move in some cases. Bosses have attack sequences and parts of those sequences can change depending on your positioning or if you are blocking.
>>739521263You can invade a host and several summons, yes, which is not what I said,>but you said guys! That’s pluralIf you had an understanding of English you’d understand the plural meant I can do multiple invasions against solo players(because that’s how I play), not one invasion vs 3 people. I figured you stopped reading because the language barrier was too high.
>>739523052you can run right through the main gate of stormviel and dodge all the ballistae shots and go straight to godrick, it takes like 1-2 mins, and other than the ballistae there are only 3 groups of enemys you need to avoid.Academy can be run through in a similar fashion. Like 95% of both legacy dungeons are intentionally designed to be optional.
>>739513428Miyaslopi had no idea how to write any of the plotlines that were started, so he simply didn't. The open world is great and the combat is the best he's made since Armored Core 4. The enemy's could have used a fucking stamina bar though.
>>739513428you know what went wrong
>>739521464It’s not fine, because I can’t get invaded. And I don’t want every fight to 2v1 or 3v1, I want diversity in my invasions and I want to be invaded. The question was what went wrong, I’ve explained what I thought went wrong, you guys saying “just accept things are different” is literally affirming my statement of why I think what ER did was a bad choice and makes the game inferior to 1 and 2.
>>739513428Ds3 was enough for me and what I saw of the game when it came out wasn’t enough to make me want to play it. I didn’t care for the reused assets or “open world.” It seemed like quantity over quality.
>>739523104He does cancel attacks. It took like 5 seconds of looking. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/Xq6oiGyFLn
>>739521469the boss you're talking about is a parody
>>739523441right thats what i said, they only "cancel" attacks if you go out of the attack range, the player was not in range anymore because he was behind him and the attack doesnt track well.
>>739513428No 2nd DLC or sequel.Or more ER.Because it was damn close to better than I ever could have imagined it would be.I thought it was going to be complete shit that just didn't work because of open designs. FS taught me that I didn't get shit about their games and open world is easily as challenging as closed area designs.And it made BotW look like complete slop overnight, like Nintendo didn't get the cinematics anymore. It looked like how I wanted Zelda to be by now.
>>739521469Worse, there's a miniboss you can't actually kill and just have to dodge or parry its every attack...after which it will just kill itself. Presumably it got bored and decided you weren't worth the effort.
>>739513752What a rancid opinion. SotE honestly was better than the main game for me and is the peak of the game now for me. I started to replay the game immediately just so I could replay SotE.
>>739523160What you said is this:>"fight dudes just doing a play through"You can do this in ER. It's irrelevant if you meant consecutive fights or not because it doesn't take away from if they're doing a playthrough, which was ultimately my point. I don't care if it's a couple of guys. My point is that it's candid, forced PvP, with people just playing the game. No need to get your panties twisted up fretting over the ESL boogeyman taking up space in your head, anon.
>>739523537He'll cancel his dagger toss too. No range in that. Good that we agree about the cancelling part though.
>>739523290Harden the fuck up, pussy. If you can't go to an arena or bully a couple
>>739519968>they abandoned-false
>>739523726he doesnt cancel attacks and then do the fast dagger which is what you wee originally talking about.
>>739523656the lore got ruined and the scadutree blessing shit was fucking garbage
>>739523876You just said he'll cancel attacks if you go out of range. That is a cancel I just showed you. He'll also cancel the dagger throw, and I don't mean gatling into another attack, although he does that too. He will raise his hand to throw the dagger at the end of combat and then sometimes he'll hold it there to threaten the toss, and then lower it without tossing. I don't know why you want to die in this hill anyways
>>739523236>95% of both legacy dungeons are intentionally designed to be optional.thats kinda disappointingi mean, just that implies that the game is more about bosses than the dungeons themselves.
>>739523052Rock sling with meteor staff + night maiden mist is so so broken it can carry you all the way to the fire giant without a single level up or weapon up.
>>739524003>i mean, just that implies that the game is more about bosses than the dungeons themselves.No it doesn't, dipshit
>>739523907>lore>ruinedtheres no lore or story or anything remotely resembling coherency in this shitty game expansion or not. its just cut and paste notes and leftovers from old souls games stitched together. its trash and only retards with head canon and video essays from other head canon retards making shit up defend it.
>>739523656I still haven't gotten SotE because I keep hearing it has shit bosses and shit mechanics, and that's on top of costing as much as a full price AA game
>>739524124Using rocksling against fucking morgott sounds like CBT
>>739524003I don't really believe that to be true, as there are a fuckton of dungeons and random exploration specific items and materials to do that aren't related just to the combat. If anything, speed running your way to the bosses is basically cutting out the other 66% of the games content, and ERs combat is not good enough on its own to just focus on the boss fights.
>>739524147>I'm an illiterate gay retardYeah we know
>>739523671What I said later on for DS3 was not my initial statement for ER and my critique of it, I’m not going to sit here and explain AGAIN how the invasions in 1-3 are different than ER. I can be invaded in 3, I cannot be invaded in ER. If you are too stupid to understand what that sentence means in relation to all my previous comments, that’s a you problem, because I’ve thoroughly gone over why the way invasions work suck in ER. >b-b-but you can be invaded!Read my earlier comments>it just works differently Read my earlier comments>I’m too stupid to understand! I’ll just keep saying invasions do happenYou problem. Read my earlier comments. ER invasions are not the same as DS invasions.
>>739516371>"this is bullshit game, use bullshit to win, dont bother getting gud"Anon, that was the entire concept of dark souls 1, where you had fights like taurus demon or capra demon where it looks bullshit at the start then you figure out you have to do some bullshit technique to beat them because the bosses back then were more puzzle than actual duels. The whole gitgud mentality came with dark souls 2 onwards when the MLG mentality was at its peak and people were farming for e-cred because they wanted to prove they were hardcore.
>>739524289Actually the games got harder because DS1 was too easy
>>739524234I think I've had enough of your long-winded babbling about trivial differences that don't matter. I can still get invasions and be invaded at basically any level, so yeah, I'm fine with it.
>>739524362Naturally, there was no other way but up and Elden Ring is 4th game since DaS1. This is why DaS1 bosses move like molasses compared to ER bosses nowadays.
>>739523776I’m fine with 2v1 or 3v1 every so often, what I’m not fine with that you and the other retard can’t understand is that I. CAN’T. BE. INVADED. BY. MYSELF. RANDOMLY. Do you retards know how to read? I can’t be invaded, I don’t have summons, so I will never be invaded. >muh taunter’s tongueCool, have fun being invaded every couple minutes and not being able to actually progress through the game, might as well as just do a fight club or arena at that point. It’s not a natural, random, spontaneous invasion. Something the other games did, the invasions game are either staged(the tongue), only with summons(not how I play or lots of people), or not all because the criteria for invasions is retarded in this game. Now refer back to OP’s question. There, now stop being retarded.
>>739524536>All these wordsHarden up, pussy. Nobody gives a shit what you think and nobody is reading all this shit
>>739524396Actually retarded. Amazing.
>>739524578>Can’t read a paragraph Zoomer detected.
>>739524181>aren't related just to the combat.Are there puzzles, mazes, and stuff like that? One of them ost common complaints I see against Elden Ring are the dungeons and how empty the open world is. I wanted to get lost in these long dungeons, like i would in a dungeon crawler. and i guess your statement about it being optional has me worried about it when/if I play ER. Like how does ER perform when it isn't just combat?I recently began playing through the series and so far, Demon and Dark Souls 2 has been my favourites by a wide margin, which has got me thinking that ER might not be worth my money. i dont know, im probably overthinking it
>>739524589I don't know what made you such an insufferable whiny faggot, but you should grow up.
>>739524706ER is fantastic, the complainers are just shitters.
>>739524178Morgott has shit for health pool and gets stanced by the rocks easily. Just kite in a circle and weave nmm every few casts. If you get a stance break in a cloud of nmm he melts.
>>739524663Post your DES plat date. I've been playing these games longer than you, faggot
>>739524003>>739524706you need to keep your weapon level up to date to keep up with the content which is the games primary bread crumb to get you to explore. if you dont know exactly where to go you will fall behind and be forced to look around. Second bread crumb is just the power from items you wear with passive buffs which again if you dont know where the ones you want are will take a long time, 3rd bread crumb is possible weapon upgrades.So if you WANT to explore for the sake of exploring you will most likely enjoy it for what it is and be rewarded for it eventually.Also the game really does try and get you to take the long way through the dungeons. again its mostly for people who already know everything about the place that will skip most of it through the shortcuts.
>>739524826Snoy detected. lol. You a phone poster too?
>>739524912oh yeah 4rth bread crumb i didnt bring up is all the XP you get from side content that noobs think is important (but is completely irrelevant compared to boss XP) which might help new players fix up a inefficient build.
>>739525031Good cope and seethe and pivot, you latenigger shitter hipster. Do you really sit at home on your free time and post lengthy diatribes nobody reads on /v/ on your gaming PC? Jesus Christ, only this faggot behavior explains you being absolutely SHOOK by a 2v1.
>>739525179That’s a lot of whining about being called a phone poster lol. I like how you also felt so upset about being called a zoomer you screenshot your PS achievements lol.
>>739525342So, you're really sitting as a desk on your free time doing this? lol
>>739525445Nope. I’m a phone poster too. I just got finished walking my dog before it started raining, and we’re getting ready to watch a movie.
>>739513428Nothing. I actually played this today at 1440p, max details, gaytracing, rtx hdr and dlss mod at 120fps to test the steam controller. It’s still a very, very good game.
>>739525514So, why the fuck do you whine about phone posters? Are you this insufferable in real life? Your dumbass walking your dog and stopping every ten seconds to write a giant paragraph someone will never read?
>>739513752Based post, based gif.>>739523656Mmmmmm faceblocking.
>>739523848the open world and legacy dungeons are faceroll level bro
>>739524512It was fun to go back after ER. Felt like a Mario game.
>>739525247Easier game, impossible DLC. I dont get it.
>>739525618I walked the dog, got back and saw your retarded whining. I’ve been commenting in between text from friends and making dinner. Because I knew it would upset you after the PS comment upset you too lol. Stop being such a pussy and getting goaded into teasing, it’s really easy to mock you. This is my last comment because we’re going to eat then watch a movie, but I don’t even game on my PC, I game on an Xbox. You’re just an insecure faggot that gets upset by people mocking them for things like consoles and what they use to browse the internet. Grow up and stop so touchy, it’s just the internet bro.
>>739525946Have you ever sucked your dogs dick? You sound like you do.
>>739525946Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty life where you cook, didnt read lol
>>739513428Mini dungeons are boring but still trigger my ocd
>>739526227Do I have the game for you!
>>739513428You have to be White to enjoy it so of course half of /v/ hates it.
I just got the Gargoyle Blackblade and Blasphemous Blade.I have a Executioners Greataxe Greatsword and Banished Knight Great sword and Gargoyles Greatsword all above +13. My executioners greate axe at +19.I am level 105. I have 54 str, and around 40-50 Endurance and Vigor.is it worth putting any in faith to get some spells now and to use the faith based weapons like blasphemous blade?For PvP and PvE
Elden mid...worst From game ever...
>>739513428too much feminist bullshit
>>739513523BasedBrownoids will seethe
>>739516371>use bullshit to winAnd then they keep nerfing all the bullshit that players can use.Fuck fromsoft.
>2026>/v/ still seethes over Elden KinoExtremely based From SoftMiyazaki for President 2026
>>739525040It's not like you need to ever grind out runes to level in ER, as you get enough to stay on curve just running around, doing the various dungeons you find and killing the odd enemy along the way. If anything, it kind of breaks the idea that ER is an open world game when there are invisible barriers around a lot of the areas in the world in the form of level ranges or outright barriers you can only get past after doing specific things to unlock said zones. So you can in theory go anywhere, but in reality the game will punish you pretty hard if you go poking your nose in a place you aren't yet ready to be in.
>>739526657it's pretty standard to get enought faith to cast buff spells like Golden Vow
>>739515498Because it’s goodBad Games get a few shitpost threads and then are largely forgotten forever
>>739513428normies ds3 is shit toods1 was fun not prepare to die loosh harvest garbage lol
>>739513807skyrim ds1 osrs far cry 3far cry 5 stalker 1 to 3fallout 3 4 nvetc doom 1 unironically
>>739515824How come nobody complained about the input reading in Dark Souls?
>>739526657That’s a lot of endurance first off. Even on a pure endurance build with visage shield I didn’t need that much end. Isn’t the soft cap like 36 so you pretty much stop getting greenbar and only get armor weight. To answer your question yes faith is generally good as a secondary stat to almost any build. Flame cleanse me, beatial vitality, golden vow/fgms, all very good even poison mist is very decent. Blasphemous Blade is a l2 spam weapon so you will have mana problems with out decent mind trying to cast all of these and spam weapon arts. Your strength is at perfect level for two handing any heavy infused weapon. Personally I would get great stars and two hand it heavy infusion then buff with bloodflame. I would use the icon shield for passive regen on my back with that much endurance. I would put lion claw on it and breeze through the game if that’s what you want to do.
>>739513428Unbalanced as fuck to the point of being broken.If you make a character that can't fast roll, you're completely screwed.
>>739528674Executioner great axe is the best weapon in the game with a 130 crit modifier. Heavy infusion two handed with crag blade aow and dagger talisman will stance break then massive crit them. Getting access to beastial vitality and flame cleanse me and blood flame will make it easy mode. You don’t even need to upgrade your faith seal with those spells
>>739521469That game is awful.
Hollow Knight games are more interesting after playing both. I like the art of Elden Ring and the boss design/voice acting. It's pretty meditative to explore everything like Skyrim but it doesn't reach those highs.
>>739516948I only invaded for that quest line. Took a few tries to even connect. Killed two co op people and the NPC they summoned. I must have been way over leveled so the balancing of the pvp must not be great. Not one player has invaded my game yet.
>>739513428It's the best souls gameShadow of the Erdtree is also the best DLC From have ever done>mfw retards try and claim shit like the Ringed City or Old Hunters with their three linear-ass levels and maybe two-three good bosses are comparable to an entire expansion
>>739513428Shazam lost
>>739529819SOTE is good but I have to give it a -5/10 for the inclusion of Gaius
>>739515985Stable 30 on Switch 2.5 trust the Plan
I buy every FromSoftware Souls-game and for the most part regret it. I somehow did beat Demon Souls on PS3. Gave up quickly on DS1, 2, and 3. Got to the final boss of Sekiro and had to uninstall. Is Elden Ring still worth my getting, considering all that?
>>739513428>What went wrong?rollslop
>>739530081Go back and beat Isshin coward
>>739513428>What went wrong?Elden Ring was like another life, especially with the DLC, I'm in love with that world, I want to live and breath in it, forevah. Without additional context, playing it again will feel like rooting over the corpse of an old friend. It makes me sad; do I have to wait for Fromsoft to release their next game?
>>739513523OP BTFO
>>739513428rollslop and parryslopboring ass dungeons that are a clear afterthoughtinvasion mechani are ass
I'm pretty close to finishing elden ring, I really enjoyed it and it was my first full playthrough of a fromsoft game.What game should I play next?
>>739533667DS1
>>739513428I haven't played SotE yet.Still waiting for that sale! 2 years coming up.
>>739534415I was thinking that yeah. Just aslo wondered is something like Sekiro or Stellar blade would be fun too. Bluntly they might be a bit hard for me because I do super rely on summons tanking while I do dmg
>>739513862
Just putting it out there. I fucking hate putresent knight
>>739513428>What went wrong?no forced invasions when solo ruined the online completely. whenever I use taunters tongue I get these battered wife tryhards who were ready for 3v1 and instead got a casual player like me. pvp is inorganic dogshit in ER because carebears couldnt handle red man creating emergent gameplay for them.
>>739513428I don't know, what did?
>>739513428The DLC filtered too many people. Inadequate fightbabs that seethed at difficulty, lorefags seethed at broken headcanons and that dose of nonverbal communication for the dullards that hate exploring the map
>>739535387The multiplayer is just miserable for everyone involved. It's the first time I've ever felt that one of these games was better played offline entirely singleplayer.
>>739536959To be fair I probably found Messmer harder than Malenia. Pretty simple with Hounsent though, just burn him down.
>>739524153Buy it, if you enjoyed the base game you will enjoyed the DLC for the most part. You can be contrarian and nitpick the part of the game you dislike the most after you finish
>>739537069Maybe the thing I've found strangest is that you are freed from the rune economy, it just doesn't matter if you lose 500k runes now, no real impetus not to just facetank bosses until you can figure them out really.
ER is the comfiest From game.
>>739513428Op got raped by bad red men
>>739539459ER has the worst invading experience.you have to be mentally disabled to find it enjoyable.
