What do you think was the worst creation in gaming?
Paid online.
Pokémon Legends Z-A
Limited number of game installations making the game a brick after you reach the limit
>>739531554anything above W10
>>739531554Microtransactions. Nothing in vidya can really top that. Only upside is that they can allow the game to be F2P but a lot of them suck.
>>739531554Steam is the rot cause of all problem
>>739531554lootboxes/gacha
>>739531554>>739531796Steam reminds you about 3rd party launchers, retard
>>739531719that's the correct answer, something so bad devs stopped doing it altogether
>>739531554Do people not take barely any time to look into the game they are going to download or something? Any game that has had something like that, I was aware of such when I downloaded it
Just don't buy games that have the shit colored warning labels?
>>739531554This pic was made by a redditnigger btw.
>>739531554Face scanning
>>739531554>pic relatedJust refund it. Literally the only platform in gaming that lets you refund digital games and you're not using it with a justified reason.
>>739531554xbox
>>739531554paid onlinemicrotransactionsfree to try
Early Access
>>739531985So, the average /v/ user.
>>739531554Video Games.
>finally get around to trying titanfall 2>have to give my computer aids by installing the origin launcher to play it
>>739531554Steam.
>>739531554Californians should’ve been kept away from the industry
>>739531554gachas
>>739531554Nintendo.
>>739532303>originYou read that somewhere.
>>739531554>decide to reinstall Far Cry 3 that i haven't played since the release >Ubisoft shitty service requirement>Thank God i have all my passwords saved>Asked to pick another password for inactivity >Do it by the website>They fall to send me a email and block my account>have to wait 24h to try again>later i discover that ubislop is such a dead fish of a studio now that their official website is near unusable in current versions of Firefox and Chrome>they never officially adressed this btw, i had to google what was happening >Reset my password... ON EDGE>finally get to replay Far Cry 3>it's just ok
>>739531554>What do you think was the worst creation in gaming?Semitic Judiasm
>>739532908no? I experienced it by being forced to run the game through it. First thing I did after getting bored of TF2 was uninstalling that shit.
Discord:-killed voice chat in games-forced to join and verify with phone number because it's the only place the mod creator will let you download it
I don't care about the third party launcher as long as I don't have to make a separate account for it.
>>739533083Show me your current version of Origin, which has been deprecated for years.
>>739531554>What do you think was the worst creation in gaming?Steam
>Want to see if some game has some malware "anticheat" that will make it shit itself if I run it on Linux (the game is full of cheaters)>Valve doesn't force niggas to disclose this>Check the steam curator for this shit>PLEEBO HAS A 50/50 CHANCE OF HAVING PEE POO ANTICHEAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER LIKES TO PUT IT INI would say denuvo because irdeto literally tells you straight up>Bury that shit in your EULA if you can get away with it, we are explicitly detrimental to your salesBut Valve has gotten better about not letting publishers just bury it in the EULA.
>>739533183>First thing I did after getting bored of TF2 was uninstalling that shit.
>>739531554Tennis for two, the world would have been better off without vidya
>>739531554Horse Armor DLC.Fuck You Todd.
Anything Ubisoft
>indie pixel art game that is like 10 hours long >recommended system reqs: Win 11, RTX3080, 16GB RAM, 10GB storage spaceMy rig surpasses these reqs easily, but why is your dinky game hogging resources that should be able to run 10 of it?
>>739531554Don't ever buy that shit, anon.
>>739533228>>Valve doesn't force niggas to disclose thisyes they do? Kernal level anti-cheats now have a warning
>>739533323They do NOW, maybe, maybe it's an issue with the curator I used to use.
>>739531554Fallout 3
>>739533351Its a recent change but its forced onto devs to disclose it. I'm also pretty sure it forces them to disclose Denuvo use as well.
Patches
>>739533323>Kernal levelKill yourselves, any dev who does this>Triple A dev for 7 years
>>739531719name 5 games that did it
>>739531554The internet.
>>739531554There isn't a single game with a forced third party launcher that's worth playing.
>>739533549Every EA game.
microstuttering
XboxMicrosoft killed console gaming with greed and almost killed PC gaming by cannibalizing it to sell their shit console.
valvefags
>>739535292Hey Tim!
>>739532975>talmudic judiasmfixed
>>739531829steam is responsible for launchers in the first placebefore steam people would actually own games physically instead of renting a license
>>739531554Although it has gone down in history for being the piece of shit that it is, Bioshock infinite was the first game that I ever truly hated. It was right around that time (and also several months before the last of us) where the wagglan era had passed and AAA gaming had really dedicated itself to mimicking film. Bioshock infinite felt like the archetypical example of that where amateurish writing and cinematic presentation brought tons of praise and sales and it came at the expense of innovation in gameplay and mechanics. It was especially insulting coming from a series that had otherwise been praised for its mechanical freedom and interactions. I remember that retard Adam Sessler calling it the citizen kane of gaming and it was then that I realized how core gamers had fallen away from the bigger industry. Then the last of us came out and infinite was forgotten like it should have been in the first place. Not to imply that that time was the peak but I don't think games have ever progressed past that point. They're still trying to release the same shit again and again, now with copy and pasted crafting systems and skill trees. Ultimately it shifted the focus from creating better games to just making interactive movies with ever expanding budgets and dev times. Take or leave all of the microtransaction and live service shit but thats the core of whats wrong with gaming now. You used to have to make a better game to sell.
>>739536084Many companies had launchers before Steam and a couple even had a storefront before Steam, if I remember right. Steam didn't start launchers, but it did destroy the majority of them.
Always onlineResulted in gacha games, fomo, dailies, invasive anticheat in singleplayer games, antipiracy measures phoning back home, etcIf a game does not have a true offline option then I'm not going to play it, not because I don't have gigabit internet but because it's a telling sign of being shit
>>739531554Software copyright and the DMCA.
>>739533309It might have a pixelly look, but the dev didn't change from trilinear interpolation to point, so to stop the pixels blurring, they just dumped in 4k "pixel" sprites.Yes, I've seen this at an indie dev meet up.Bad code is usually CPU bounds, if the graphics reqs are high, they're doing something something really dumb.AI is going to make this 100x worse by the way. I'm pro AI, but throwing shit code at the problem is pretty standard these days.
>>739531554Ultimately the biggest cancer is the corporatisation and normalisation of gaming, corporations decided around 2007 that nerd culture could be normalised and milked. Once gaming started becoming a bigger industry than film it was inevitable that it would get subverted and turned into a monster.The big publishers bought up studios and in the process killed them and ruined franchises (I'm still mad about EA killing Westwood), and this was before games went "woke". Now it's only gotten worse with activists and women who want to use the games they make as nothing more than a vehicle for their own ideology. It really wouldn't be as bad if all it was was a bunch of rich nepo babies making walking simulators, but they are working in the same studios that used to be good like Rockstar and Blizzard etc.The only solution I see is another video game crash, or for Disney and other corporations to churn out so much garbage that "nerd culture" becomes unprofitable and uncool again.
>>739531554The medium becoming popular and sustainable enough to be 'second hollywood'. It caused everything: worse customer service, every single fucking 'widening our audiance' spiels that ruin games, zoomers watching others play games, the terrible sanitization of every single metric that isn't gaywoke, budget inflation and a stronger commitment to utterly raping the dollar out of its customers, third party launchers, etc.
>>739531554It's not a big deal to spend an extra few seconds to make an account and sign in.
>>739533141>DiscordYou just know some teammates are talking shit about you on their private call. It also killed gaming forums
>>739531752People said the exact same shit about XP and 7
>>739531554Gachas.
>>739539446Well put.
>>739531554An anti-consumer DRM and shovelware platform that is le good because I got stockholmed into putting my social media profile there and le fat psychopath is wholesome chungus
>>739531554Steam
>>739539250omg thisand then you see retards saying shit like "Space Marine 2 will save gaming! It's a throwback to the golden age!". Like no, it's ball and gun slop that ruined mainstream PC games to begin with. Remember when they remade Syndicate as a mediocre shooter?
This board is just a twitter dump rehash at this point
picrel, along with the ecelebs that came with it.let's players and streamers have never, ever, done anything good for video games.
>>739531554digital only games
>>739531554Horse Armor
>>739536084>zoomer being zoomerEveryone and their dog had a fucking launcher before Steam.It was a fucking plague, and Steam actually drastically reduced the total amount of launchers.
>>739531554Discord
>>739541365>>739536084what's so bad about not having to stock a bunch of useless plastic cases and CDs around my house?
>>739531554Why is there still steam or gay launchers rather than uhhhh just an exe file nigga? Why is some sort of middleman, even from the developers themselves necessitated? Like why cant you just go to rockstar.com, buy the game and download it from them and then just play it from your shit no frills or anything?>erm but le patching!!!Oh wow they cant just have the latest patch available and you click and it just patches your files exactly like happens with whatever launcher, yeah that cant happen
>>739541546Niggers think that having physical is some golden definitive of ownership despite the fact that you you can just put your steam games on a physical disk too. But they will now bring up how steam has drm (easily bypassed) but will ignore how old games on disks also had drm.Its a non argument to blur the discussion around steam, highly likely at this point they are troll farm backed by whoever is salty Valve is still a private company and Gabe isnt allowing a buyout if it.
>>739531554DLCwe used to get expansion packs bros...
Why do Rockstar games require a Rockstar account to play them? Even older games like Bully requires a third party account ?????
>>739531554/v/
>>739542130>steam has drmThis one is dumb because it's not Valve doing it. They just provide the option. Stardew Valley, for example, can be installed to multiple machines using the same account and played online that way if you launch it directly. Other games can do it, but they choose not to.
>>739542330The DRM in question is Steam forcing you to launch games via their platform, which you can fix by messing with a single .dll file. But of course, that won't stop these dumb niggers from complaining.
>>739531554i wanted to play fc3 blood dragon on steam but installing ubiplay isn't worth the effort.
>>739531554I wanted to buy Mass Effect on Steam, I pirated the whole thing exactly for that reason. 3rd party launchers can tongue my anus.
>>739541546if you can't tell the difference between physical ownership and renting online licenses you're a lost cause
>>739531719I sorta remember that. How often did it actually last?
>>739531719During the ps3 era every digital game had a 5 download limit>>739533549Today only Dead Space 2 has a download limit of 10 times on Steam, however there were more games that had limits but they were patched to remove them except Dead Space 2, some games like Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City had xbox live and after it went down you couldnt play it without a mod to remove the xbox live bullshit
Games with multiplayer licenses.
>>739531554consoles
>>739541546Truth is there's very little difference these days but physical fags jerk themselves off over the rather slim possibility that steam might die in the near future. Then they get all whiny when you post pictures of house fires and disc rot lol.
>>739533395Some faggots put a warning right before or after the release.
>>739531554GAAS
>>739542995>During the ps3 era every digital game had a 5 download limitI thought that was a limit of sharing it with 5 different accounts?
>>739531554This was my face with PC games that forced you to use Steam from 2010 onwards. Fuck you Square Enix
>>739531554There was a time period where I couldn't play DaS prepare to die on steam because I'd lost access to the email account I'd used for GFWL.
>>739543721Something like that but Im glad it's tied to an accounts unlimited times now
>>739533549it still happens on platforms for Japanese games like dlsite and Johren, when DT 2 came out even the biggest fans told everyone to pirate because the DRM is horseshit
>>739542879There was never any "physical ownership". PC physical games were bundled with DRM that always assumed that you're a thief, and at some point "copy protection" could straight up brick the game you "owned" because it would think you're overusing the licence.
for me it's that consumers somehow accept that the released game is now an open beta and that it won't be finished, polished and stable until months later
>>739536084never miss a chance to seethe at valve lol
>>739536084PFFFFFFFTYes little console zoomer, the heccin evil valve is responsible for everything bad about PC gaming, companies like Microsoft, EA or Ubisoft were actually heccin wholesome until da ebil Gaben showed up.
>>739531554The microtransaction.
>>739531829Steam should refuse games with 3rd party launcher and drm, would be so basedDon't like it ? Make your own store lmao, ubisoft came back, ea came back
Box price + mtx.
>>739531554Horse armour. Fucken Toooooodddddd.
>>739542879No you stupir faggot. You are buying a license to download as many copies as many times as you on as many machines as you like. You loose the license if you get banned off steam or steam dies one day. You, however will always have that which you have already downloaded. The files are on your machine. You can manipulate them however you see fit. They come with a drm which you have the complete freedom to remove and the drm is mostly by individual devs, not steam.
>>739531554>What do you think was the worst creation in gaming?The Last of Us Part 2
>>739531554>What do you think was the worst creation in gaming?Overwatch-tier multiplayer characters that exist solely to drain the wallet of FAGGOT gamers that like flamboyant quirk slop over simple fun gameplay.Faceless uniformed soldiers are basically non-existent in modern multiplayer games because they're a lot harder to monetize. That's exactly why Star Wars Battlefront 3 will never happen.
>>739544394>armour>ouOf course you hate it. You're poor.
>>739532908>it's not a thing today so it was never a thing everYou breakfast having faggots are so tiresome.
you could have rallied to ban piracy and to have harder laws for file-sharing websites.cheering for robbing stores and then complaining about stores having more security sounds like those dark skinned american people.
>>739545314you lost jap
>>739545347gibs me dat game white boi
Online activationAchievements Unskippable splash screens Online updatesTelemetry (responsible for dumbing everything down so the lowest 0.1% can handle the segment)
> game previously with a launcher releases an update many years later to remove the launcher
>>739545314>you could have rallied to ban piracy and to have harder laws for file-sharing websites.That wouldn't, and didn't, do shit.Laws you can't enforce are as useful as tissue paper walls, they stop no one.End result would just be moving hosting locations outside of the reach of US law enforcement, which is exactly what TPB did along with mirroring it's content over countless clone sites.The real solution is to make the act of trying to prevent piracy worthless, because then it shows the people spending money on such services they've wasted their money, which is far more terrifying than a C&D letter is to someone in backwater EEU.
>>739531760/thread
>>739545461> game previously without a launcher releases an update many years later to add the launcher
>>739545208Just because overcuck and its derivatives are the sloppiest sloppa to ever slop doesnt make the idea of unique character in character centric games bad.
>>739545314Piracy increases profits but dont tell that to the EU commission.
>>739531554Why are steamies so mentally ill?If you want to avoid double drm the only reasonable move is to cut off the fat pedophile yacht owner and just buy directly from the publisher instead.
>>739545658What game?
>>739545997https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/25900/view/501717042106204624King’s Bounty: The Legend.At first, the developers announced the addition of a launcher and that it wouldn't affect anything, but they were met with a lot of shit, and they postponed the launcher indefinitely.
>>739531554PC ports
>>739545997The BioShock games on Steam.
>>739545461> game previously with a launcher releases an update many years later to remove the launcherit's been like 10 years but wasn't that what happened to Dark Souls GFWL PTDE on Steam before it was delisted for the demaster?
>>739531554mobile gaming is the root of everything wropng that happened nextremember, the world ended in 2007 with the iphone
>>739536084>steam invented DRM>gaben is the only one smart enough to figure out selling games online, if it wasn't for him nobody did it>gaben was the first to do that Holy retard.
>>739539683people online will never be (your) friends. They are forever phantoms behind the screen, no matter what, no real friendship will grow out of it
>>739531554Additional launchers on top of Steam is why I don't buy EA, Blizzard, Ubishit or R* games on PC.Gotta sail the seven seas if I want to play games from any of those cunts.
>>739531554Shareholders thinking they deserve input on games
>>739531554face scan
>>739539446yeah
>>739536267>coming from a series that had otherwise been praised for its mechanical freedom and interactions.I'm not sure what you mean by series here. Did you think Bioshock is part of the system shock series? Bioshock the first game had no such interaction or freedom. It was a dead standard corridor shooter with some ultra-lame-ass upgrade points that you could apply to weapons or some canned powers
>>739536084>*scratch*enjoy your physical games while they last
>>739531554easily steam
>>739548712>launcher borks the game, might even brick your pc>pirates that bypass the launcher can play the game with no issue>payer literally getting a shittier service than piratesVery impressive.
cloud saving only. remember playing bamham through steam which then routed through some god awful microshit launcher, got a few hours in, quit, came back and found out my cloud saves somehow were never made and had to start over. never touched that game again
>>739545461Civ V did this and made the game unplayable for some time : ^)>>739551660I unironically would rather pirate gta IV to replay it despite owning it on steam...
>>739531554My personal ones would be daily chores and endgame focus inside MMOs. Auto-queue systems and instanced content come right behind it.
Even Steam annoys me when it comes to launching a game. I like double clicking an icon on my desktop and having it launch that way without Steam being involved at all.
can't wait to see this thread posted as a twitter engagement bait circle jerk!
>>739531554I have Steam and Ubisoft Account. I remember testing Star Wars Outlaws demo from Steam but I could not play it because my Ubisoft Account needs to be connected with Steam. There was (at least then) a catch, it's impossible to add Steam from their web page or from the client app itself. It is supposed to be a pop-up or something when you first launch the game via Steam. This never happened and I could not play that demo.Things like these should be illegal.
>>739531554>buy Max Payne 3 on Steam>install the game on Steam>try to run it through Steam>Steam gives me a code and tells me to install the Rockstar launcher and use it there>the Rockstar launcher doesn't accept the code
>Text explaining everything to the minute detail, god forbid you misunderstand and laugh about something else, on top of a screenshotOh yeah I'm feeling it, fr fr on fire on god sigma cuckowaddledaddledoo...this is holy hecking f*nny, what did I mean by this???
>>739553269lmaodid you refunded?
>>739533083>getting bored of TF2But it has one of the best singleplayer campaigns in vidya
>>739531554The GPU.
>>739531760>F2P but a lot of them suck.That's an inevitable feature of F2P
paid onlinemicrotransaction dlc
>>739533309Either the dev is retarded or he just put it in for shits and giggles
Lol this would be a great Reddit meme! Unfortunately the seller discloses 3rd party software up front, so you would have to be an utter retard to take it seriously or waste a thread on it.
>>739533549Do you not remember the 2000s?
>>739539756correct
>>739553428>>739554235>zoomers outing themselves as zoomers because they didn't know paid DLC existed long before this
>>739555712>he thinks i dont know and just find it funny a company charged for a shitty horse tarp that doesn't even do anything in-game except give you a free horse>they didn't even bother recording new dialogue
>>739531554Hats in slot machines in TF2. Seriously fucked up the entire industry worse than anything else anyone else ever complains about. It turned so many video games into slot machines and fostered a rabid community of people who want to turn every video game into a slot machine. Most video games since have been poisoned by this in some way shape or form. IMO if hats had never been put in slot machines people who pay into that shit would be sitting at the casino pulling a lever right now instead of complaining that a video game makes you play the game and you can't just put your quarters into a slot machine to "progress". Video game devs put significant dev time into catering to slot machine players, ruining otherwise good games and the industry will never stop adding slot machines because it's easy money. Valve doesn't catch nearly enough shit for being the company that single handedly unleashed the most detrimental blight unto video games as a whole. Hat's were just the tip of the iceburg, they paved the way for all future microtransactions and gacha mechanics because it was proven a successful business model.
>>739536084Why would I want to own a game that has DRM built into it and doesn't let me play it on my terms, in any way I want?
>>739531554Shush, valve drone. Lower your licence when talking, cattle.
