Should leverless be banned from professional FGC tournaments?
No, theres already famous cases of pro players suffering permanent carpal tunnel, specially from smash meleeIt should be regulated what can and shouldnt do thougheverbeit've
>>739539678yes
Nope.Xiaohai just won a tournament again today and he's a stickfag. Shitbox players may have faster inputs but they don't have the talent
>>739539825They already have SODC cancel by default because devs can't be arsed to add 5 lines of code.Besides, keyboard do exactly same shit.
>>739539678that's transphobic
>>739540326>anything I don't like = homosexualitymindbroken
>>739539678I don't think means of movement should be policed. I do think there should be a limit to the number of programmable buttons someone should have access to though.
>>739539678>should good controllers be bannedNo. What the fuck? Just buy a good controller yourself asshole. Top level players should play with top level controllers.
Smash is not a real fighting game.
>>739540439>I do think there should be a limit to the number of programmable buttons someone should have access to thoughthis, it's actually so retarded how many buttons people are cramming onto their controllers on both hitboxes AND sticks
>>739539678They’re just keyboards but more comfortable. By the same logic you should either ban sticks or ban pads, so everyone is only on one device.
>>739540439Most tournos ask people to turn off any sort of extra button. Macros are banned for very obvious reasons.
>>739540538>Most tournos ask people to turn off any sort of extra buttonisn;t the rule only that every button should only be mapped to one thing. i've never heard of any tournaments banning extra buttons, especially when everyone and their mother had like 5 extra buttons on their controllers now.
SODC cleaning makes these controllers have the same playing field as a stick for the most part. I built one myself (2040-ce) and I could easily kick my own ass using a stick instead. I only switched to save my wrists
>>739540653>SODC cleaning makes these controllers have the same playing field as a stick for the most part.It actually helps by going neutral faster or by avoiding some inputs
As someone who only follows COD esports (I know), explain the issue like the retard I am.
>>739540945there is no issue, they are basically just more comfortable keyboards with arcade buttons. you used to be able to input opposing directions at the same time but software fixes that (and regular pad controllers could do this too anyways)
>>739540945>As someone who only follows COD esports (I know)jesus. anyways. say that a controller could shoot, throw a nade and reload all at the same time with 1 or 2 button presses only and the game let you execute these actions in tandem as well. why would anyone else use anything different? that controller has an inherent advantage of pressing 2 inputs at once (in this case it's movement, which in a fighting game is extremely important). most games now check for this of course, but left unchecked, it can result in stupid shit that really should not be possible otherwise
>>739541278>MUH SODCNigga, that got fixed years ago. Leverless just give more precise inputs, that's it.
Fighting game players don't know anything about FPS.
>>739541574>no. With leverless it isno it isn't because holding back and foward at the same time gives you neutral
>>739541574https://www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/support/what-is-socd
>>739541438I got like zero spatial awareness, in fps games I’ll get shot from everywhere and not know where I’m going. So I play fighting games.
>>739541735It's probably for the best. Every multiplayer FPS has hackers which makes playing really unfun nowadays.
You're 15 years late for this conversation
>>739539678Pad>stick>leverless
>>739541995Fighting games are no different lol
>>739539678No, niggers should be banned althoughbeithowever
>>739541426>Leverless just give more precise inputsOkay, explain this to an old man. I've been playing fighters with a keyboard since GGXX#R. "Real" fighter fans have always, always, always made fun of me for this. Hurr durr, you're gimping yourself. Hurr durr half circle. D-Pad is just better, you can just roll your finger over the input. Everywhere and every time.So what the FUCK changed to make what is essentially a keyboard with round buttons oh so good that everybody's suddenly flipping out about it 20+ years later?
>>739544701Back on SFV people started using leverless due some jank allowing block charge or microwalk by holding both directions, as result capcom banned leverless controllers for a while. Recently they lifted restriction but controllers need SOCD cancel, while other games have similar issues devs either patched or game already deal with it with some way, also emulators block those inputs by default.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFFu351TE60Notice how only retards playing modern fighters complain about it.
>>739539825>theres already famous cases of pro players suffering permanent carpal tunnelthey're already mentally crippled, might as well go all-in
videogames arent sports, get over it. This is like smasher stage and character bans level of embarrassment
>>739544701It's historic. Most people who played on keyboards are poorfags that couldn't afford alternate controllers.Poorfags would not be using expensive keyboards either, so they likely suffer from keyboard ghosting and don't have NKRO.The layout is also historic. Lots of keyboard warriors back in the day used full wasd for movement, this requires a lot of finger juggling since you only use 3 fingers for 4 buttons.Now, if you use spacebar to jump AND have NKRO, then yes there's no difference other than a more comfortable spread with bigger buttons.
all fighting games should be designed for and played on a fightstick (other than party platform fighters) but it's too late for that decision now since you can't put the genie back in the bottle
>>739544701Shitty membrane keyboards. My first fighting game was USF4 and the microsoft keyboard I had at the time meant I literally couldn't play Juri, because if I held more than one charge it wouldn't let me walk backwards
>>739541438In my experience, FG players don't really seem to know much about other genres but they love to talk about them.
>>739539678yesdpads too
>>739540945>COD esports (I know)Not any more embarrassing than following fighting game tournaments>>739544701Consolefags are retarded and people that play fighting games are retarded, combined they're doubly retarded. They convinced themselves keyboards are worse because they couldn't use one. Once someone reinvented the keyboard they discovered it was always the superior option and their double digit IQ couldn't handle it, resulting in the seething since
>>739539678What good reason is there to ban them? Stick and pad players are still winning tournaments and more than a few players have even gone back to them after trying leverless so they're clearly not broken. And even if they were objectively superior, you'd have to argue why that's a bad thing. Give evidence for why it's ruining the genre that players have better controls. It's bizarre to me how there's such a frenzy over leverless because it's considered the best but people had no problem when stick was considered the best. I wonder how many of the people whining are also people that bought sticks back when they were considered objectively better.
>>739547378it doesnt fit the fgc larp so its le bad
>>739539678its too late, its become the default in japan, you have no power anymore
>>739547378>It's bizarre to me how there's such a frenzy over leverless Most people who play fighting games don't actually care. In Combo Breaker top 24 you'd see a variety of pads and sticks and leverless. People on this site just look for any way to argue about something.
