Yugioh Master Duel is having an event with only non-meta cards.You can finally play this game without insufferable cunts ruining the experience... but only for 3 fucking days.
Finally, my time has come.
Yu-Gi-Oh needs to have a separation between these level of play. Magic had a good solution, only legal cards were the last two years of cards, if you wanted to play with all printed cards, that was a different format. Made power creep stay in check, worse combination burnt out within a few months. Magic is a mess with fortnite-esque crossovers nowadays, but the wisdom in limiting what can be played and what can't helps keeps the game alive. Hopefully this event is popular and it creates a revitalization in the game. Magic has been home to a new format where you can only play with common cards and it's gaining alot of traction. There's a place for mega-meta decks played at professional levels, but there is a much larger place for people that want to enjoy the game.
Did they finally ban maxxc yet
>>739543997No.
>>739543939Bigot.
>>739543997>Remove max c >Everyone now doing fucking OTKs and there's no way to stop it. MAX C ISNT THE PROBLEM YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>>739544120They have no sensible response when you post pic related.
>>739544120>>739544176Don't care. Remove Maxxc.
>>739543787Very cool. Will reinstall just to try this out. I hope there aren't any cancer meta decks already for this mode.
>>739543997They never ban shit
>>739544265It is literally impossible to produce a game without a metaIf anything the meta will probably be more oppressive than the real game because it will be incidental, not by design
>>739544265>look for information while downloading>may 28Fuck you OP kill yourself
>>739544506The announcement just dropped, tard.
What are (We) playing in this event?
>>739543787holy fuck last time I played this game I tried a toon deck and got obliterated also why did they turn a card game into a fucking wombo combo fighting game where players can play like 20 cards in a single turn if they combo correctly
>>739546264Funny because Toons just got support announced that turns it into the most ridiculous wombo combo bullshit
>>739546264My harpy deck used to get run circles aroundI'm sure it's possible to make a good harpy deck though
>>739546264>why did they turn a card game into a fucking wombo combo fighting game where players can play like 20 cards in a single turn if they combo correctlyBecause if you weren't playing dogshit from 2005 you'd ALSO have access to playing 20+ cards in a single turn
>>739546903>why are you killing babies?>"errrrm, you can kill babies too, sweaty"
>>739543787I hate when they drop these announcements without the deck builder, maintenance is tomorrow anyway so what's the point of telling me now when I can't even start deck building for it,
>>739546903I feel I am slightly on the ADHD side so yes I like to be a bit of a perfectionist but having to learn a deck that is required to do that is too much for me
>>739547003>playing a childrens card game is the moral equivalent to killing babiesAnon you MIGHT be autistic
gaylord
>>739547991>morality out of nowhereI think you're retarded.
>>739543787>>>/vg/
>>739548809I will molest you.
>>739544176different rules, dosent count
>>739549436>
Answer me, cowards >>739545903I'm playing Lair of Darkness.
Gatcha slop trash game. with zero other format support. Any real fan should avoid this pile of shit.
>>739552246It's not a very good gacha when you can get everything for free
>>739552653When you install the game and launch it to play you have all the cards ready and available for you? No, then its trash gatcha slop not a real simulator. Format support still nonexistent after many years. What the hell are they doing? Its pathetic.
>>739552947>you can't get to all the levels when you start Mario, so it's a gacha
>>739550110The “slippery slope fallacy” is the funniest example of this because it inherently shows its own fallaciousness within its own fucking name. Imagine a dude slipping on an icy slope or some shit and saying well yeah this couldn’t happen to me that’s a fallacy
>>739553012Most retarded counter argument i ever read. Makes no sense and devoid of any logic. Congrats! Daddy konami will be proud for you defending their pile of diarrhea game like a brandead tard. Then hurry and slurp up their slop.
>>739553140Not even the slippery slop fallacy.You're simply retarded.
>>739553012>content is placed linearly with some skips for funvs>content requires RNG to get the thing you want with either a purposely insufferable grind or spending money in order to optimize chancesany time i play any of the Yu-Gi-Oh games i use an all cards cheat and have fun with the decks I want to make and when I duel with friends they do the same thing completely skipping all that grind just to play the fucking game
>>739553358>Most retarded counter argumentMatching the most retarded argument.
>>739553413Hurry up kid and slurp up the shit slop what your master konami presented for you. You maxed out your IQ level with those "brilliant" counter points! You only provided further proof how braindead white knight some of MD player are. Bye and try to grow a brain.
GUYS I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO UNLOCK CARDS, THIS IS GACHA!!!1!1!!111!!!!
>>739553780Sorry for the rude awakening, but its not the same at all. Tell me where is the in-game "gem", "crystal" or whatever named shit gatcha currency shop for real money on that game? Nowhere? hmmm very interesting!
I've learned how to play her archetype and now I can fap to her with full confidence.
>>739553387>>content requires RNG to get the thing you want with either a purposely insufferable grind or spending money in order to optimize chancesAre you confusing Master Duel for Duel Links? DL is a Gacha, MD is not. You can craft any card you want with no RNG at all. If new players can build a top tier meta deck within 24 hours of installing, that's not a gacha.
>>739554489does that count as a targeted attack?
>>739554610If it doesn't say target then no
>>739543787Yea wow now instead of being fucked over by boring meta floodgate combos you can get fucked over by less meta floodgates and combos.There's no winning with Yu-gi-oh. Every format devolves into the same thing.
>>739554515Look, i agree the crafting system helps a lot, still you need premium currency to open packs and need specific rarity shards to craft the desired cards. I know you have daily/weekly/event quests where you can earn gems with playing the game, but this doesen't make MD magically not a gatcha game. Every other gatcha game have dailies and events too where you can earn some free stuff. MD is still not a real simulator in my eyes, because of these reasons, also like i said like a thousand times, zero format support, its unacceptable and pathetic at this point.
>>739543787There's only one way to save Yugioh, by limiting the number of special summons and monster effects per round.Id say 2 special summons and 5 monster effects per round are perfect but they will never do it because the timing for it is long gone, the powercreep has become so bad that if your deck doesn't win in the first round or two, it's not competitive. I'm go back to have fun playing old Yugioh games and Boo-mer-yo tcg with my Yugi starter deck.
>>739555162>roundLeave.
>>739544120but TCG Yugioh is fine?
>>739550110>event where a team of 3 has a shared pool of staples and a side decks leading to different deck building philosophy compared to regular Bo1 MD>HURR DURR ITS THE SAME BRO you are simply too retarded to engage seriously with, the fact that the meta between OCG and TCG is literally the same outside of region locked archetypes should lead anyone with a brain to conclude that Maxx C does nothing but sack wins.
>>739555162fuck off retard
>>739555195Try out Genesys format, more back and forth gameplay than the traditional format while you have acces to newer cards. Don't expect a miracle, but currently i think its a much more fun way to play the game.
>>739555365>different deck building philosophyAh, so none of the decks they used were meta in MD, I see.Matter of fact, they didn't even use yugioh cards, that's why using Maxx "C" against them is okay.
>>739543956>Magic had a good solution>the most jewish system imaginable
>>739555194>>739555404
>>739543956Does yu-gi-oh have limited/drafting? That is the ultimate fun format for noobs.
>competitive game>but without the competitive partThere is a reason why it is only for 3 days.
>>739556030>game>without the fun partSuck on that boot harder.
How many pages of the Dice Rally contain gems? Can I just stop after getting the cosmetic?
>>739555638my bad, i completely forgot how omnipresent dogmatika punishment labrynth was in 2025, this deck was absolutely terrorizing the ranked ladder.also its funny how you didnt address the fact that the OCG/TCG metas were the same regardless of the roach, i wonder why?
How do you even make a Yu-Gi-Oh! game that is not gacha? Opening packs is the entire premise of a TCG...
>>739556396>cherry picking>no mention of how every team used Mapiss and Ryzeal>implying deck diversity is never on the ladder>bringing up a point that works against himself (game being basically the same regardless of roach, meaning it's not to the detriment of it) as a "smoking gun"With your level of dishonesty, you might as well be consneeding.
>>739557273>stating that the rules of the event literally require you to play tier 2> decks is cherry pickingNot the same formatNot the same rulestherefore stats from the WCS are irrelevant to master duel balance
>>739557671>rules force you to simulate ladder>Maxx "C" experience (improving going second odds exclusively) is the same as ladderWow, shocking.
>>739557902>(improving going second odds exclusively)as we all know, ONLY the turn 2 player has access to maxx c, there are no recorded cases of the turn 1 player passing on an established board and dropping a roach during standby phase.
Top 10 rated decks in August 2025 (WCS month) included Voiceless Voice, Pendulum Magician, Blue-Eyes, and Snake-Eyes.https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/august-1-2025/master-duel-rating-top-10Anti-roach tards will try to convince you (i.e. "try to cope") that seeing these in the WCS means it's a fake format.
>>739543787Take your spam to one of your FOUR generals.>>>/vg/Or just play eternal card game instead.>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs>ex-Magic devs
>>739556207There's 1 more after the cosmetic, after that you are good to go
>>739559020You're right, four is not enough.
>>739555162thank god retards like you have no saying, this would legit kill the game
>>739543787the problem is... I don't have shitty cards
>>739559385>this would legit kill the gameNTA but it's already dying, only autistic retards or rich kids play this shit now, no new people are getting into waiting 5 minutes to lose in the second turn.It brings me no joy in saying this because yugioh was my favorite TCG growing up and now everyone i know is playing Magic or The bazaar, this shit is not sustainable.
When will they release the new BLS cards/archetype?
>>739559045Gotcha, thanks famalam
>>739556207>>739560446You can open the Dice Rally, click the top right menu, and see the rewards list.You want the rounds list.
Why do you players hate Yugioh boomers so much
>>739560261they literally created genesis format to solve that, just play it, but guess what? you won't play it.if you want a easy TCG game to play, go play pokemon.
>>739560569Because they want """fun""".
>>739543787>event is not even live yet>can't check what decks I will be able to useBut considering how almost every single Duel Trial has been utter trash, my expectations are rock bottom.
>RANDORI WATCH OU-
>thread is dead because everyone is watching the new Liar Game episode
>>739555162Why do people who don't play the game always have the most dogshit takes imaginable?>activate Mitsurugi Ritual, summon Murakumo from hand by tributing Saji and Kusanagi>activate both Saji and Kusanagi's effects, add Mitsurugi Prayers from deck and add Mitsurugi Ritual from the GY back to hand>activate Mitsurugi Ritual again to ritual summon Futsu from deck by tributing Murakumo from the field>activate Murakumo's effect to search Great Purificationi and revive itself backNice fucking "fix" nigger. Oh no no no Mayakashibros... I don't feel so good...
>>739564507Don't play Mitsu you nigger
>>739564602>HURR DURR THIS ONE DECK DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS DOGSHIT ARBITRARY RULES THAT I MADE UP, IT'S THE DECK'S FAULT
>>739543997It's at one, and also finally Calleed By is at one, too. The game is infinitely more playable since it happened. Even right now despite the format itself being pretty bad. Your mileage will vary on if you think Fuwalos is The Little Satan to The Big Satan Maxx C>>739560261>dyingMaybe a couple months ago, but right now YGO is doing pretty good. There's a lot of optimism and a lot of things are going in the correct direction. At least for the TCG. I'm actually considering going back to locals since the revisions to OTS packs looks good and they made OTS winner packs. Only thing stopping me is the price of some of the new staples. But the reprint cycle for cards is way faster nowadays so I'm also not super stressing that.
>>739564663>one deck
>>739565937>I don't know why
>>739555162Cool so Kashtira and Artmage can rule unopposed since they can straight up poop out their interruptions with no extra steps? No thanks
>>739543787Does that even change anything?A lot of 0.1% cards are extremely powerful compared to others, it's just they aren't as overpowered as current meta etc.
>>739566353>Kashtira>"interruptions"Mega unplayer.
>>739566412You're not just resetting to older metas, because you're also wiping at least a decade of staples, like Ash and Imperm.
>>739566429Interruptions != negatesBesides, if you can only execute 3 summons in a turn what can you do that doesn't get vaporized by Fenrir?
>>739543787Will I be able to play ashened in this?
>>739554610It'll destroy King's Sarcophagus too, meaning you won't get its protection effect, meaning you lose all your horus monsters anyway. GG no RE.
>>739543787Master Duel made me realize that I just really hate playing Yu-gi-oh.
What's the deal with the going 2nd player starts with 6 cards, is that default for ladder now or just an extra mode with no rewards?
Big brain idea: A "boring" button for opponents.During or after a duel against an opponent, you can press a button that designates them as "boring", sort of like a dislike button, but with no "like" counterpart.All it does is give you a "Boring" title, but the more people hit it, the bigger it gets. (but it slowly shrinks over a long period of time)Mechanically does nothing, but makes people feel ashamed.Even if you wanna pretend that it doesn't bother you, it still will, because there's no one you can pretend to and say to them it doesn't bother you.It'll force metaniggers to try to be original (which will be funny, because they can't).
>>739566862It was also a duel trial.
>>739560569Because 1000 quintillion special summon is so fun while 80% of the deck is the same Handtraps! Such a more diverse game than the old yugioh! Also turns end in 1 turn or sometimes on 2 so much fuuuun to play solitaire while every single card effect is a tutor or omninegate to completely block out your opponent from play! Time to "Duel" aka coinflip simulator!
>>739567045Is it default now on ladder?
>>739544120Its a symptom of the problem In reality there's like hundreds of cards that would need to be banned to pare the game back to something where turn 3 actually exists when top tier decks are being used but that'll never happen
>>739567095No, that would require a whole new Master Rule.
>>739567081handtraps are only viable against decks from 2022 and before. its all about GAS GAS GAS now, every post 2025 archetype can survive most handtraps
>>739544120Anon, everyone can OTK you through maxx C anyway.
>>739543787Is there a reason why the next MR shouldn't have the player going second start with 6 cards. The 5 vs. 6 event has shown that it doesn't fix the issue, but at least it'd better than nothing.
>>739543956They tried to do that with genesys but then they never bothered killing the meta decks/hand trap spam dead so genesys just became standard lite.
>opponent misplays>misplay because I thought he played correctly
>have 1 negate>synchron player takes 20 minutes trying to bait it until he's finally forced to go into speeder and loses
After playing Hecahands, something's been bothering me. When Breus' effect happens, it highlights the card that's going to be shown; then move the reveal to the farthest left of the hand. Why couldn't the reveal be in the same spot as the highlight?
>>739559020What went wrong?
we are on /vg/
>>739567823Last time i played it was like 4 or 5 years ago, i completely disappointed and disillusioned with the game. And my experience was what i previously described maybe a little exaggerated way. What you say is just more powercreep correct? or do you think the game is a better state currently? I don't see to much difference, the older back and forth turns still missing from the game.
Haven't touched yu-gi-oh in over 6 months nowIs the game still going to the shitter?
>>739568069I haven't looked into Genesys since it was first introduced and I remember being really pissed off at how ridiculously taxed Dragonmaids were. It seems they finally came to their senses and moved Sheou and Lady's all the way down to 10.Still no Links though, so they're still very gimped, therefore my interest in the format remains at zero.
>>739568380We raided it.You missed it.
sunday is off meta day at my lgs and I kind of want to learn to play so I can play dark magician girl or a harpy deck
>triple natty Engage
>>739543787Who cares. Itll just be net decked bullshit within an hour
>>739569270>playing tryouts for more than an hour
>>739559020you can do everything right but if your game doesn't have cool creature designs it's sunk
>>739568045>t it doesn't fix the issue, but at least it'd better than nothing.Bro they won't even ban Called By/Crossout which would also make going 2nd better without requiring Konami to lift a single finger but they won't What the fuck makes you think they'd do a whole new master rule to help going 2nd?
>>739566910Sounds like something a woman would come up with.
>>739569312>replying to the unironic botYou should be reporting bots, not replying to them.
>>739571114>metanigger already botheredIt's working.
Anyone know how to see the usage data so we can prepare?
>>739544176This right here is why Maxx "C" sucks so much ass, because the fucking retarded developers and ban lists are balanced around the assumption that player 2 will draw the one sacky autowin card, and they balance the 50% win rates completely around randomly happening to coincidentally have that card in your opening hand. Even worse now that it's limited. remove the card and maybe they'll actually balance the game instead of using this crappy bandaid
>>739572705>remove the card and maybe they'll actually balance the game...like the TCG, which isn't balanced?
>>739572769Everyone knows the american team is cucked and can't actually make any real decisions. Only japan has a real voice. At least japanese people play master duel
>>739560619>>739564793This is a Master Duel thread. It's like you're swerving to acknowledge an ailing game.
>>739568657Yeah, a lot of stuff was hit hard at the start like maids, ninja and worst of all gladiator beastsMeanwhile vanquish soul was nearly full power with minimal hits lmao.
>>739572769TCG has the best balance of all the YGO formats right now. Has the least floodgating, breakers are actually a real option alongside handtraps, and deck diversity is good in a healthy way. And this is even coming off of a pretty sour banlist. Just look at the top cut breakdown from YCS Columbus and tell me that format looks bad. Neither Kewl Tune nor any particular deck dominated the format.
>>739573629>now
>>739573629I'll tell you what did dominate the tournament: cheatingWatching competitive yugioh is so painful since pretty much everyone within top 32 just blatantly cheats on stream and everyone sees it but nobody running the event caresWe literally had a man reading notes on an apple watch during his game. Its fucking insane.
>>739574053>I'll tell you what did dominate the tournament: cheating>no arguments about the actual format so deflect to muh cheating Meanwhile MD objectively has had 3rd party tools spoiling decklists before Worlds, in-game announcements about cheating, and known cheats for being able to look at opponent's hands (millennium eye). Not to mention the "chaeting" going on half the time on streams is just misplays most MD players would make in real life if they picked up a card without the game system holding your hand.
>>739573972Always has been.
anyone having this shit happening way too often? my internet is perfectly fine, no hiccups at all, but for some reason the game's connection can't go one day without shitting itself
>>739575839all the fucking time and it counts as a loss even when their servers kick you out
>>739575094>is just misplaysThis is such an awful excuseWhen I make a misplay, its game losingAlmost every single """""misplay""""" you see in competitive yugioh is the the benefit of the misplayer.
>>739576616Because that's all you're looking for, numbnuts
>>739576061yeah, I know. I already barely want to play this game anymore, but trying to climb the ladder while 1/3 of my games are server losses makes it much easier to decide not to
>>739576746Becuase they're the majority cock suckerYes, there are a few missed OTKs here and there but its largely just "misplays" that are ignoring rules for your benefit.
>>739575839It's just the servers shitting on itself, has been happening for months now.
>>739576746Another funny thing about misplays is that you never see the person realizing and saying "oh shit, I fucked up, I forfeit, this board state is illegal"
>>739577593Because in the heat of the moment you don't realize often that you made the misplay and there is no reason to literally forfeit. That's the judge's job also not the player's. I'm not going to defend the judges though, our judges suck ass even if you can't expect them to literally catch everything.
>>739576616It's because turns are so long with various restriction layers that these misplays happen. You can't do it because you play Master Duel which keeps track of everything, you can see your once per turn effects have been used, and won't allow you to do illegal summons such as attempting to link summon well after you've been fusion locked.
>just realized the new x-saber support isn't in Master duel yetI can already tell they are waiting to use it for a filler pack or something
>>739560497Thanks bro, I'm 1 duel away from getting the last 100 gems.
>The last animated short couldn't even break 6 digits in a 24 hour periodSo what's next then?
>>739554478What's your deck looking like?
>>739580259nobody cares about magistus shit, bring back the charmers
>>739580259crystal beasts
>>739568743QRD?
>>739568619It's kinda still fucked yeah
This meta is so boring, Albaz please save us
>>739573629no, you don't know what you are talking about, MD has the best balance, specially after we get the new branded cards.tcg freaks keep trying to bring their shitty banlist to MD, thank good MD is based on OCG.
>>739584062not an argument
>>739543956You just use the cards you like. if you have friends your age and you duel with them use the cards you guys like. If one of you is a meta master tell him to fuck off and stick to what youre using. Its literally that simple. >b-b-but I just watched a 4hr video on the yugioh meta now im a pro- stfu
I've been having a good share of fun with Exosisters, but in retrospective, a whooping 19 URs to keep it as consistent as possible is a very heavy cost, especially when Seventh Tachyon is the only splashable card of that bunch. My main complaint, other than easily dying going second if you don't open a good hand and Martha being so xenophobic, is that it's so easy to run out of resources, I'm pretty much searching almost all of my Exos in one turn and a half and there's no way to recycle them back, and one of my duels went on for so long (as in 5 turns) that I ended with only one Exosister monster left in my deck, with everyone else in the GY.
>go to see what I have is 0.1% or less>there's no actual way to search that
>>73958511099% of all cards from the legacy pack are probably at 0.1% or less
>>739573629every single deck on that list is either cancer and/or fucking boring to go up agianst.
I think it's over for me. I haven't made it out of silver in half a year, I didn't play enough to get the Pank mate and I'll finish this event without the base. There are no upcoming cards that interest me. Time to uninstall
>>739587952What a shame that such cute designs are part of Medius the Fag's lore.
>>739587952The game refuses to give me elfnote cards
>>739561909RIP my two copies of Roze.
>>739555162Nigga is describing rush duels
>>739566429Mega retarded cocksucker
>>739566674That's not how thst works. Sarc will protect even if it gets destroyed by a singular effect that wipes the field.
>>739573629Every single deck in that list is fun and/or worth playing against
>>739575839It happens waaay to often when I go first. I guarantee it's Chinese hacks or cheats of some kind
>>739589601I thought a protection effect can't activate if the thing that's creating the protection effect is also getting destroyed? Like with Muckraker from the Underworld. If you're getting wiped you can't use it's effect to stop it from getting destroyed.
>>739587952Bvilt for Big Medius Cock
>>739589786Muckraker needs to tribute a fiend for its protection. If all fiends on the field would be destroyed there would be no fiend to tribute instead. Think of it like Hugin's effect.Sarc does not need to substitute a card to avoid destruction. It simply protects from non target destruction
>>739572705Handtraps themselves are the crappy bandaid, by the way. Ban EVERY SINGLE HANDTRAP (maybe set Effect Veiler to 1) and start banning whatever becomes a problem afterwards and you will have a much, much healthier game where far fewer games are decided on the coinflip before the match.>But that would end up banning basically every meta relevant deck up to and including the TOSS formatYes, and? Just create like 5 or 6 new card packs for the new meta that contain fun older decks like Witchcrafters, Madolche, Burning Abyss, Qliphort, Marincess, Vendread, and so on. Konami will make a killing on selling people old cards for modern card prices.Anyone who wants to use the 2019+ cards can just play Genesys. That's what the format is for.
>>739546903Even Chaos decks back then weren't doing 20 card combos unless you count the cards they milled into the graveyard as part of the combo. Remember, GY wasn't your 2nd hand back then. Accessing the GY was much harder because Reborn was banned and Call was limited/banned. Chaos wasn't really accessing the GY so much as they were milling into it and hoping they would be able to get Sorc/Emperor/Soldier on the field.
>>739590114>Sarc can somehow still protect the field even though it would be gone but Muckraker can't protect itself because the fiends it needs to tribute would be goneI hate this game
>>739556934Why does she have saggers? Only House is supposed to have saggers.
>>739590339Because for that one instance of destruction sarc is on the field. Muckraker can't tribute something that would be destroyed by the effeect it's protecting from
>>739551893Is Lair even playable with only 0.1% usage or lower cards? Feels like an insane number to choose.
>>739590396All those sweets have to go somewhere.
>>739555851Drafting any yugioh set from the past 10 years would be unplayable due to the huge focus on archetypes. It'd literally just be "whoever draws the biggest number wins"
>>739573629The only decks on that list that aren't pure cancer are Radiant Typhoon and D/D/DWhat happened to *Yummy? Did it get bodied by a banlist or something?
>>739580259>What's next Gagagigo/Marauding Captain/Imperial Decree/Inpachi/Kozaky
>>739543997Master Duel uses the OCG format for the most part and they don't ban shit.TCG goes a bit overboard on bans/limits.There is no good meta outside of Edison.
>>739590542The last time drafting would've been relevant would've been around 2010/2011. There were still archetypes back then, but the cards could be used generically too. XYZ, for as much good as it did for the health of the game, also spelt the end of generic cards. Konami learned their lesson... kind of... about printing generic level 4 XYZ monsters and what that could do to the game so they started putting much more focus on archetypes so that accessing busted XYZ cards was much harder.
WHY CAN XENO ONLY SUMMON LINK MONSTERS TO THE EMZ IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ON THE CARD
>>739555851>>739590542they tried drafting but they had issues with making sets that were both able to be drafted and had cards people would actually want. the main reason the drafting worked was because you played it with an additional rule: "All cards that mention a monster type work on all types." (i.e. Ayers Rock Sunrise works on everything and not just Beasts and also lowers your opponents monster ATK by 200 for every monster in your GY instead of just Beasts, Plants, and Winged Beasts.) There's a lot of fanmade cubes though if you wanna look into that. https://ygoprodeck.com/cube/explore/
>>739593687Link Monsters and Pendulum Monsters that are coming from the extra deck can only be summoned to the EMZ or any zone a Link Monster points to.
>>739594059*Face-Up Pendulum Monsters
>>739595442I wish that fucking happened
Heckin handos are fuckin useless against HOMOs, these niggers all say "Must be Fusion Summoned"
Aussafag is kill?
>>739595816It's funny loading up your extra deck with a bunch of self floodgates to troll the heckerinos during the event though
>>739596348I mean... they can simply choose not to summon on resolution.
>>739596415Only if they read
>Metamorphussy>Tribute opponent's monster with Lair>get Gooner
>>739596673>Lair gets negated/popped>you're left with nothing but bricksFun strat but it's in desperate need of an update
>>739597207So don't let them.
>>739597595>Go second>Play Lair>Gets popped/negated>GG
>>739597672Look at the turn counter.
>>739597763>you got to set upYour opponent had a bad hand then
>>739598023>set upYou're literally looking at my turn 2 endboard, after getting negated by the Centurion Counter Trap and Ash, with the Centurion banishing Trap in the backrow and a Promethean in grave.
>>739573629>DUDE ITS SO FUCKING BALANCED>JUST PLAY AGAINST THE SAME 3 DECKS OVER AND OVER WHO ALL RUN THE SAME 15 MANDATORY HAND TRAPScan branded fucking Die already. I'm so tired of seeing fucking any form of dragons in this dogshit card game.
>>739560569Yugiboomers don't play the game yet still feel compelled to complain about it. The catch is that Yugiboomers are almost always correct, but it's also true that CCGs are and have almost always been terrible at higher level play. I don't care that much either way. Even as a kid I liked YGO primarily for the art on the cards and the original manga itself, and that influence was more or less gone by the late 2000s. And even the manga was a little worse for getting so caught up in Duel Monsters.
>>739601234>thing used to be good>complain about it until they make it good againHow is this out of the ordinary in the slightest?
>>739601340Yugioh wasn't good until Synchros
>>739601340Usually when people do thing: old thing: new, they ideally actually experience both of them. The overwhelming amount of time, Yugiboomers have experienced neither. Very rarely have they actually played the game at a level higher than bashing starter decks and a few packs together before leaving the game because they hit the age where became uncool to associate yourself with thinly veiled anime toy commercials. Simply put, they are phonies. As such, all they can do is string together the same sequence of hyperboles about how the game is now and offer the same parroted 'solutions' to fix the game that anyone who has actually played in the past 15 years would be able to tell you wouldn't work.
>>739601340If they did play the game its defenders would just tell them to go play something else or stick to Goat or Edison or whatever. I'm just explaining why the hate exists. YGO boomers don't play the game while refusing to just let it go. My honest take on the game is that it was never good for more serious play and was only good for casual/semi-serious play for a handful of years when half of this thread was still in daycare or yet to be conceived, and the fact it was ever good at all was a total accident. Konami has never known what they were doing. They just printed cards and let their slop anime sequels do the rest. Japan is swarming with CCGs and some of them are probably worse than YGO but I'm sure a number of them are also better. I wouldn't know, though. I only pop into MD every six or so months to see what it's like and occasionally browse threads like these.
>>739601340Two major issues. Yugiboomers define Yugioh as being good when it's exactly the same as the poorly understood game they played with poorly assembled stacks of random common cards in elementary school. This game is basically incomprehensible and more to the point, would get pretty old after a very short period of time. After all, the average Yugiboomer stopped playing when they moved from card games to, I dunno, Xbox or whatever. At the end of the day, Yugioh changed partly due to overt design decisions (Kazuki Takahashi specifically designed Synchros to make low level/low attack monsters useful, for instance) and partly just because it's a product that has to offer new play patterns to keep users interested. Ergo, we find the root of the Yugiboomer's actual complaint; that modern Yugioh is different. Even if their complaints were perfectly addressed (And they already have been, nothing prevents these people from just playing with pre-2006 cards only), Yugioh would still "become different". It would have to be as different design spaces were explored as new sets released. The real problem is the passage of time itself as it relates to the needs of a business. I agree that Modern Yugioh is a vastly different game from "classic Yugioh", but anything would be vastly different 20+ years away from it's origins.
>>739543787>3 day eventwhy not just make this a regular format?
>>739555162Retard yugiboomer
>>739602142If the surveys come back for it are overwhelmingly positive it very well couldThen it becomes a 2 week event that we all hate
>>739602105>it's the tired "no one but me played with the real rules because I pretend simulators like the WC games didn't exist" spielDo you not get tired of this cope?
This >>739602357 applies to this post too >>739601545 (on top of the "why don't you subject yourself daily to hours of jerkoff solitaire to satisfy my arbitrary requisite")
>another hour added to maintSee you in an hour 45
new pack when? My gems are rotting and I don't like Elvenote.
>>739543956rotation is about the laziest way you could possibly do thisand if you fuck up that balance you have to fix it again like retards or tell your playerbase to suck it up and just wait for it to rotate out (like retards)
>>739602489About a week into June.
>>739602415>>739602357What makes you think playing those games is mutually exclusive with playing the game at a level higher than bashing starter decks together? When I was playing the DS games I was making garbage 60 card decks of one-ofs and theme decks like trying to make shit like neo spacians work, I wouldn't count me doing that as having a real understanding of the game.Also those games were niche as fuck in the first place and only a handful of the handheld games actually had real rules.
>>739602685I'm saying "the boomers played the video games", not "the metaniggers didn't play the video games", because the point is that the boomers know the real rules, yet you keep pretending and coping they don't.
>>739602778Knowing a 5-6 star needs a tribute does not qualify you as actually knowing the game on a level high enough to talk about design.
Master JewBut at least harmonia will still only cost 90 ur dust for a playset instead of like, 200$
should i pick up branded or yummy
>>739603630Branded never dies.
>>739575839glad to know I wasnt the only one with this issuefix your shit servers Konmai
>>739584864yeah you are not supposed to play long duels with Exos. I would recommend toning down the consistency a bit and, instead, adding some non-engine to improve your chances of winning when going second
>entire banlistThe game is fixed!
>>739605358remember when >we thought monthly banlists were a good thing
>>739605358>Game is unbearable going first combo slop>Let's free up more comboslop
Seems there's a new upcoming Worm and/or Genex solo gate.There's also a lot of focus on Worm Zero.
Next month for sure.
They changed an upcoming card name>"The Chaotic Sacred Beasts" --> "The Chaotic Phantasmal Sacred Beasts"
>>739605358This does literally nothing btw
They fucked up Yubel's effect highlighting... again... after already fixing it.
>>739606194Ratpier would still be pretty strong in modern yugioh with barrage and beast warrior support.
bros i lost all attempts at the card decoder wtf
>>739606465It will see 0 play
>>739606194isn't zoodiac tri-brigade back?
>>739605538so they are concluding the Terminal World story 200 gems is 200 gems I guess
>>739550110The guy about to get run over is right though. He's about to get transported to an isekai while the buck is dead
>>739606541Zoo is massively powercrept. Might as well play yummy tri. At most broadbull will replace tiger king in lunalight
>>739606541Troon Brigade without Apollo does nothing. It might be able to cope with Lunalight or ryzeal.
>>739606568they are finishing season 1, yes.
ez
>>739588539>>739587952sexnotes
>>739582979>wanting more braindead cardskill yourself in front of your family
>>739568045they should absolutely do 5 cards vs 7 cards unironically going second in that event felt fine even though i still won way more going firstit make my 2 card combo chimera azamina fiendsmith deck feel way better cause i could actually draw engine + book of eclipse
>>739606679How does it work?
okay... hear me out.... zoodiac fiendsmith
>>739606906Wordle but with Ygo cards
Heckin Hands are just Goy(o)s
>>739609047
>>739543787>ah....you at my side all along....
>>739556934you enter the passwords the is on the card to unlock them
>>739543956Just make the Extra deck be 10 cards. But too many faggots need to want to summon everything in it on the same turn instead of just dealing with it and making a new deck like everyone else.
>>739609179most meta decks still work with 10 cards easily whats a major issue no one talks about is the life points, its way too easy to get game on an open board and theres no time to draw the out, even sextupling the life points wouldn't solve it
>>739609298>even sextupling the life points wouldn't solve itYes it would.
>>739609298They should just still make it 10. Too many decks have too many backup shit in the ED. If people want protection or backups, they should resort to the old spell and trap cards.
>>739543956They just need to keep banning cards until Yugioh is fun again.
Cyberse and linkslop killed master duel
is there even a good pay off for infinite link mats besides knightmare gyrphon?
>>739610076Generically? Not really
>>739610076Doesn't infinite link mats still get you some dumb firewall ULink bullshit with singularity, tri-gate, etc?
>>739610076Fancy ball
>>739609630ED faggotry killed the entire game. I blame the shitty anime needing a new ED gimmick each season.
>>739568532Nta but the current experience now that modern decks have their own in archetypal handtraps feels better (so long as your deck is part of that club).Its both players interacting with that back and forth immidiately. Several turns of interaction crammed into one or two.Besides complexity, the problem of ygo is sheer power disparity between the good decks and the casual decks and the same problem TCGs face which is an oversaturation of tryhards destroying the casual scene. How can one have fun with their silly theme deck when the opponent gets to play not only a whole turn before them, but with far better cards with often far less restrictions.
>>739611396Those "silly theme decks" are usually doing stuff 1000x more cancerous than the meta so fuck them
Ok, could Ryzeal abuse the Zoodiac unban?
>>739614275mitsurugi could also use zoodiac since they can make king of the feral imps easy
>>739614529?
>>739602142Because why would they let people consistently use old decks when they want people to buy new decks
>>739616382Player retention.>get boomers and the like to play (with retro/alternative formats or whatever)>they stick around>eventually tire themselves out from playing with/against the same cards over and over>they decide to play with the new stuffBut Konami is too retarded for that.
>>739616871boomers don't play yugioh
>>739616983boomers don't play nugioh*FTFY
>>739614275no, onomat is a much better engine to pair with ryzeal.
>>739617034they didn't play old formats either which is why konami canned them for genesys (which they also don't play) there are a bunch of retro/alt format communities that all suffer from lack of interest. people who say they want other formats will do literally anything to avoid actually playing them
>>739617183Ignoring the fact that there ARE people who play alternative formats... you do understand you're saying "everyone wants to be TOLD what to play".
>>739560569>konami keeps printing and reprinting DM era staples and erratas>time wizard events for GOAT and other formats are ubiquitous in the US/EU>get together with friends or likeminded people and play by your own rules >friends too far? online sims like EDO allow you to play whatever deck you want meaning you can easily summon 7 colored fish with your bros online or IRLbut do they ever do any on that? of course not! they're too busy yelling at everyone else about how things used to be better.the truth about these fucking retards is that they dont actually want old yugioh, they want to literally turn back the clock.
>>739617102>>739614529I see, oh well, its more of a spring cleaning thing then, Zoodiacs are too outclassed.
>>739616871>>get boomers and the like to playwhy they should care about people who don't play the game and just complain? even if MD got genesys format, I doubt they would be interested.
>>739617820>people who don't playMD playerbase went from 200k to 20k.Who do you think those people were? Stop coping.
>>739605358I see the list but where the ban?
>>739605358>release the most toxic ass engine in the game>literally lvl 4 slop with free pop and negate, no normal summon>floo map still banned>runick spells still banned>tenpai unusable>realize this garbage engine is only free because tri-brigade support is comingi hate ranked
>>739568241Typically if you want to go into Junk Speeder play, you would want to setup the Accel Stardust line so you can make a Speeder that is unaffected by any card effect
>Link Monsters can't be Normal or Flip SummonedI'm gonna throw up (I'm 7'11'' btw)
>>739618930>MD playerbase went from 200k to 20k.literally 99.99% of all games, MD is actually doing way better than it should, it's the most played tcg game on steam.MD has problems, but boomers aren't one of them.
>>739617512Been playing/collecting sine the middle of the OG era, and while handtraps and field locks are annoying, I like how much has changed. If you would have told me we'd get a bunch of monsters who's whole gimmick was staying in Defense WHILE not playing S/T, I wouldn't have believed you.
>>739617183Better MD support would probably elevate other formats, but the reality is CCGs always emphasize whatever the new hotness is and that's what the average player responds to. Konami just wants to sell cards/gems, and players run on FOMO and presumably little girls.
Im sitting on gems waiting for the shaddoll support. ETA for how long do we have to wait for it?
>>739623657Should be within the next couple of months, maybe even next pack, who knows, we got Dragunity last pack and so far any terminal world archetype got released back to back.
>>739622842theres a million and one things wrong with YGO but the boomers (who are in my age bracket LMAO) almost always go wide because they have no clue what the fuck they're talking about.all their solutions usually boil down to turning the game into anime MTG
>>739624682Well, I agree with them insofar as MTG was much better managed for a very long time.
>>739624841idk much about MTG's history so i cant comment on that, but my point wasnt about management but about appeal. yugioh players want to play yugioh NOT magic, and vice versa.
>but how do we get the market that hasn't touched the game in 20 years to play?Yugioh needs to be chasing new blood, not trying to appease people who barely played in the first place. They had multiple chances to get back and they've made it clear they are not interested. It's mind boggling that konami found the golden recipe of having a multimedia IP exist together where the show shilled the cards and then they just stopped doing that because arc-v sucked and vrains was boring. The solution is to hire better fucking writers, not cutting off the entire process you get people to buy your game. And now here we are with no onramp for younger players to get hooked so the only one keeping the game alive are the ones who played from GX (being generous) through Vrains, assuming they haven't left yet either. I played from 5Ds to mid arc-v and came back for master duel and I'm at the end of my rope because of how shit the game is right now. What are they gonna do when all the players like me finally uninstall? No, the 5 minute shorts that come out every 3 months is not enough.
>>739626632>company makes concerted effort for decades to alienate fans>"it's the fans' fault!!! why aren't they corpo perinium kissers like me???"
>>739625119I like (older) YGO, but I think it's part and parcel. Magic is also a fundamentally more solid game, though individual card designs and fuck-ups still matter. YGO's history is a fucking mess, and that's why the game is what it is now.
>>739627025Yeah yeah yugiboomers for sure will save the game and hundreds of thousands will come in droves once they apply your fixes to the game. Go bark somewhere else.
I got it on my first fucking guess, no way lmao
>>739605358haha well ain't that something?
>>739627285Are the rewards only based on how many properties you get right, or do you get bonus rewards for using fewer guesses?
>>739627285I had to burn through all my hintsI am not cut out for this shit
Wand or Knightmare will always find a way to appear in your opener
Metaniggers will whale on cardboard that becomes worthless in a year, show signs of battered wife syndrome and sunk cost fallacy, bitch about how it's a miserable experience, and then seethe at (You) for not following their (wide) footsteps.
>>739627441only by how many properties you get right, and by guessing the card. but since you get a limited amount of guesses per day, you can the rewards earlier by getting more right straight away. the event lasts 7 days and there're 7 cards to guess, so you can get every reward as long as you get at least 1 card right per day
>>739627441>>739627723also worth noting, you only get gems up to the 3rd card. after that it's legacy packs and SR dust
>>739627723Fuck, I didn't get mine right today.
Card of the day>earth >atk 1600>all hints gone>107 cards to choose fromFuck
>>739629889At least you got a new card.I used SIX guesses on the first card.
>DEF 4100>its a 50/50 between two machina cards>I still get it wrong
>>739630384>go against opponent>coin flip is 50/50>I still lose the coin flip
>>739626632The anime thing gets me, companies here in the states bought dubbing rights for both Sevens and Go Rush, when the game those animes are promoting, "Rush Duels, aren't even in the states? Like I'm happy Core Boosters aren't tied down to promoting what's in the anime, but at the same time I can't BUY Rush Duel cards like Seven Road Magician over here.
>>739630032Yeah after burning through all my hints the first timeLast hint could have been avoided on my first one but I didn't feel like guessing out of 12 cards at that point
>>739627285>>739606679>>739630384>niggas getting cool and iconic cards as their guesses>I get a fucking dog (as a cat person)
>>739543787asffafasf
That’s cool and all but I already rape metaniggers with mimighouls, it’s seriously one of the best decks Konami ever released and it doesn’t get nearly enough love. Try it out some time, it has like, 6 URs and it’s a ton of fun. It’s super consistent, the only issue is you don’t usually have enough juice to go for a 1TK, you have to ramp up to around turn 3 or 4, WHICH IS HOW IT FUCKING SHOULD BE.
Do the guesses reset back to 5 or is it like the hints where you just get 1 a day?
>>739605475>Monthly banlistI fucking wish, this garbage still follows OCG cycle.
>>739630939You get 3 guesses a day, and they stack throughout the event.
>>739580259Super Quants
I'm going to sleep.I better find this thread up when I wake.
>there are 3 types of normal summons
