No, it's not as good as Disco. But let's discuss it anyway. Did you finish it? Did you like the ending? as far as I understood, killing both Dante and Lich awards you with he highest score from Mel, right?
>>739545142Its not AS good, but its still very good >SpoilerYesTo get Z rank you also have to kill the golem in a way that cant be connected to you
>>739545142How do I get both Dante and Lich if I side with Violeta?
>>739546392You can't
>>739546392>>739545142The game really should steer you stronger to at least attempt second conversation with Dante before deciding what to do about her. If you didn't figure out who he was after that (and passing white test about fascist ideology) its kinda on you.
>>739546503That's a bummer, good thing I made a save just before the branching choice
So what the fuck was Ignatz's deal, a permanent inferiority complex? I feel like I missed his significance in the story
>>739547154I still dont know who he was
>>739547154Just a theory but could he be Vespar? The only member of Sick crew who never resurfaces
>>739547626If he was, that would feel like a wasted potential and also difficult to believe, unless he was some Weeping Eye's MK-ULTRA imprint
Sexo
>>739547626I doubt it, since he was working for Taxman until recently, and if he was flipped it happened five years ago when he vanished/was killed. Timeline doesn't work
Is the null guy a secret villain or a bullshitter or something?
>>739547816Bye!
What's the most useless skill?
Who was the best boy and why was it Oskar?
>what if we made disco elysium but grey and soulless
>>739547935He is real deal, and based on my gut feeling he was the one that faciliated communication between weeping eye and opera for purposes of this whole operation.He is looking for someone who has "it", and what way of proving that someone has"it" than killing the lich, and avoiding death while being a scape goat?
>>739545142This is a video game board.
>>739547154Pretty sure he's just some simp you passed off from the first mission. Your skills say you do know him and nothing he does makes sense unless he's like in love with you or some shit.
It's the Numenera to Disco's Planescape. It was okay. I shot both Dantes.
>Never got caught and tortured>a date with Silhouette>She says she saw Hersh nakedNo she didn't! And I had two other times when NPCs remembered my choices wrong
>>739545142how do you even kill Dante though?Also can you save everyone in the ending or will someone always die
>>739545142It's pretty damn good though. Granted, I'm a sucker for spy stories.
I hate that mel bitch
>>739545142>Disco Elysium but from the people that fired all the people that made Disco Elysium and raped the studio Eat shit and die, not touching this with a twenty foot pole
>>739548406Holy shit they really replaced the good writers with retards huh
>>739549903Right at the exchange with KALEIDOSCOPE, when you're talking 1 on 1 with him you can give him papers or kill him. You need to pass the roll
>>739550137didn't ask
>>739549903My understanding is that some of your squad are bound to die regardless which method you decide to use for the tram
>>739550137Green arrow is so much fucking worse than Hawkeye.
>>739550137don't worry, they nailed the pretentious fart sniffing of the first one
>There is a conditioning that disables save scummingBased
>>739552165I didnt rly feel like save scumming first 10h of playing. whats the point
>>739545142Can I get a QRD on the protagonist? Harry's mental illness and alcohol induced brain damage + memory loss explained why he started from zero and also why his knowledge and skills manifested as distinct entities. How does it work for the protagonist of this one?
>>739552228Pratogonist was bad spy that got burned five years ago, and spend time since as paper pusher in siberian archive of your organization. She was send here to die, so it makes sense that she is so bad at the start of the game The voices you hear are litteral MK-ultra neurotransmiters
>>739545142>Cascade, I turned myself into *the scene,* IM *THE SCENE* KURT!
>>739552818> The voices you hear are litteral MK-ultra neurotransmitersDon't fall for the Bagman propaganda, operant!
>>739552818>The voices you hear are litteral MK-ultra neurotransmitersDid I miss domething? The game constantly drove it to the player that the Opera are washed up losers compared to their EMTERR and La Luz equivalents, but they can wirelessly mind control people?
One of the issue I had with the game was the tech levelsAt first it's regular shit and then you have A disk that mindwipes people which I guess I can suspend my disbelief for but I draw the line at the device that overrides someone's consciousness with your own and the few times someone communicates telepatically with you. Also if Ezti can just get a truth serum, why can't the Embarr interrogatrix?
>>739552818That sounds pretty cool, actually...
>>739548476What about the "de facto lead" guy, likely working with the fascists? He's clearly a slimeball piece of shit right?
i don't care about that ultra violetta cunt
If your crew is not>KALEIDOSCOPE>KINDRED >RADIANYou're spying wrong>>739553539Trading her looks like a superior choice.
Where can I get a flashlight?
>>739553976Palace of culture. Talk to the cop in front and he'll ask you to remove squatters and give you a flashlight for your trouble
>>739553942do you really want to put your number 2 through that again?
>>739553067You can only learn about it when confronting Bagman>Bagman is a schitzoYes, but he (and his followers) have few pieces of meta knowledge that make him trustworthy in those matters>Knows truth about how time works>Knows exactly what red disc does>Has exact memories of fighting with you already.And it makes sense why would Opera have those neurotransmiters. Every spy agency has its own specialties, and Opera in spite of all its red tape clearly specializes in psionics, because that's what spy techniques are. There is no other explanation for supernatural shit like stopping someone with a word, remote viewing, telepathy, splitting a pain with your torturer or locking away memories in items. >>739553204Red disc explicitly connects you with cosmic horror beyond time and space and its not really technological. Same with people contacting with you telepathically (and other spy techniques), its not tech, its psionics.>second spoilerTalk with Dante for the second time, its brand new tech, and its technological application of midwiping that was already practiced by fascists for the last century, but without the downsides
>>739553437Are you talking about Pseudopod? He is just incel that was unprepared for this mission, got tangled into situation that was above his paygrade, and then when he was at his lowest he got zeroed by opening up to wrong person
>>739545142I started it but it feels too pretentiousalso VA makes me cringe
>>739554673No? The guy that tries to photograph/kill(?) you at the bazaar early on
>>739554673who was the wrong person btw?
>>739554891kaleidoscope, man with the headphones
>>739554849Him i have no idea, i feel like i might have missed something with his story>>739554891It was Kaleidoscope, Pseudopod told him that he was spy and feels lost while they were looking together at the Ultra Violeta ad, and during this conversation Kaleidoscope gave him red disc
>>739555079>Him i have no idea, i feel like i might have missed something with his storydid you do his quest at reno's place?
>>739555131nta but I couldn't because it bugged and that bitch constanz wouldn't develop the photos
>>739554097She is killing them all this time, my huntress
Why do they all have tiny feet?
Honestly, this game is not as bad as I expected. But some bugs, typos, and missing VA is atrocious.Also the wacky moments when it tries to be disco too much actually detract from the experience. I'd rather them stick to the serious spy shit all the way through. I think the game is at its best when it's not trying to be disco too hard.
IS there a time limit?
can you recruit estoc
>>739555879No>>739555918No
>>739556007why does pseudopod say he won't work with her then
>>739548302t. not Gäng
>>739548302entanglement
Is it a problem, making my own gun? Will it bite me in the ass in the future?Also does the game have a timer?
>>739556206True. Finding it very disappointing after being Shivers/Inland Empire-pilled
do you ever see the huge bitch the emterr guy wants to fuck?
>>739556091It's probably just to show that Pseudopod absorbed so much of Hershel that even her distaste for Estox got into him
>>739556235No timer, but once you advanced the main quest objectives far enough you will only have time for the rest of that day and then forced into the final mission. So if you if you want to explore just delay, for example, getting a gun
>>739555131I didn't back then when i was posting that because i really didn't want to work with that moron, but i just finished this quest in two diffetent ways (no photos and photos) just in case and it was colossal waste of time. Only pieces of information i got was that he works for the golem, and that he somehow thinks that he and Cascade worked together in the past, which is false.
>>739553249anon forgot toe mention that you're quirky lesbian with anxiety issues
>>739545142no I did not finish it, spoiled myself on z-rank and that you need to turn UV in for it and I was 2 hours past that quest, so said fuck itso I have a question, maybe I've missed it, but what is the "end of history"? from what I gathered commies plus some other fuckers signed a treaty, and decided to stop recording history/ writing history books/ making any new discoveries/wars ? is that all?world tech level is also kind weird - it looks like computers are just starting to get widespread (like desktop size ones) but other countries have lunar mining bases?
can u actually become bagman's lieutenant? i wish there was a wiki to check shit cuz im too lazy to replay
>>739555335To appeal to the Chinese market
>>739550137>disco elysium was made by... le one group of people
>>739557661zp is a good addition to the gaming landscapepeople like DE -likes, heres a game in the genre that does it wellfocusing on drama is bizarre
>>739554493I did ignore most of Bagman's ramblings because they were so schizo to make sense out of, but that would make lots of little details fall in place. Neat
>>739557242>but other countries haveSuperbloc does too, you can find out that they send royally failed spies as a final punishment to moon mines, which are basically devoid of any humanity or modern labor practices
There is a hint that you can restore the red disc, but how do you actually do it?
>>739559396Progress Hauzmann questsIf you just want to know how to do it then: Work for Hauzmann until he sends you to sillo, then let the mugging happen. After you return to him go and confront Bagman and either convince him to give up the restored disc or paint the walls with his brain and just take it
>>739554493Wtf do you mean knows truth about how time works
>>739559850>Work for Hauzmann until he sends you to silloI didn't deliver him the magazine and went to the prison and got interrogated. Now he moved out from the bar. Does it mean I can't work for him?
>>739560147He wanishes from the bar either way. Try to recruit estoc, i worked with him and he showed up after i left her apartment, considering how important he is i think he still should show up
>>739559850DamnI kicked the ass of the assailant and so when I went to see bagman for the first time, he had nothing interesting to do because he didn't steal the disc from me
>>739555535>some bugs, typos, and missing VAI hope they patch all of these in the coming weeks.
Who and where is the weird headphone guy im supposed to find?
>>739560737It's actually kind of fucked just how many tech issues this game has. No soft locks so far, but since I've exited the Cultural Center and did the quest there, the echo that accompanies the location now flatly applies to the rest of the game.
Just started it and I had to degrade a skill one point after reaching the anxiety limit. Is it a recoverable debuff after you sleep or whatever? Or have I lost that point for good until I level it back up?
>>739561382PermanentIts part of the tutorialHonestly skills dont matter all that much with all the amount of bs skill checks you WILL fail
>>739545142Estonian Investor screwed over the Disco Elysium fanbase by cancelling the Cuno Spinoff sequel and firing Robert Kurvitz without even allowing Kurvitz to keep his 30 year old world design/Elysium world like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross communist-unfriendly practices.
>>739561421I see, thanksYeah I failed 4/4 of the first dice rolls kek. But one thing I liked about DE was some of the outcomes from failed red checks so I’ll suck it up and just see how shit unfolds
>>739561529RUNE solves this.
>>739561529You're either a bot or a copypasting retard.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/739418568/#q739435238
>>739561529Sucks to suck
fren
>>739563251>Best weapon>Best MusicBomb chads keep winning
>>739563251>>739563676https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GGWki0Yws
>>739563676Bomb vs necktie molotov, who wins
>>739564976Necktie was more personal and memorable, but also random and made little sense. Bomb meanwhile makes sense and comes with a nice song for the ending climax
>>739557242>z-rank and that you need to turn UV in for it?
>Kurt says he's gonna visit the Palace of Culture after saving him from debt>check entrances and can't find a way inside the place anymore>give up and finish the gameI missed content, didn't I?
>>739565153>but also random and made little sensewhat do you mean? you literally made a molotov
So is it just DE but with spies instead of cops? If so, sounds kino.
>>739565704The necktie always felt like a deus ex machine to me, as much as I enjoyed it
>>739565414Z-Rank has two requirements kill the lich during finale of the game defeat weeping eye operatives without causing international incidentOnly way to complete the first requirement is to betray UV, because REAL lich is Dante, so you can only kill him during the prisoner exchange. If you don't do it you can only kill his body double,
>>739565824what is z rank?
>>739565775its not as funny or poignant as disco but I really liked it
>>739565824ABout the second requirement, how do you even do it?
>>739565859At the end of the game you are rated by your handler,Z-rank is best possible result and it means you completed your mission and in a way that can't be connected to you or Opera>>739566045Use the Restored Red Disc, it midnwipes every civilian, luzian spy, and some of your party members if you do it this way, making the whole thing look like Luzian plot gone wrong
>>739566231damn you really have to be an asshole to get z rankmakes sense for a spy story I guess
How do you go on a date with the interrogatrix?Kinda irritated with myself I seem to have missed so much in my playthrough like Ramses still being alive this whole time
>>739566409Mixed up my second spoiler with Vespar but I know you can recruit Ramses
>>739565824>without causing international incidentI found it cool how the final scene will imply that La Luz has already begun punitive strikes against Portofiro, with their jets taking only 3 minutes to reach its airspace from nearest La Luz military base, while deliberately letting you know you're getting jammed if you fail in being subtle enough like I did
>>739566409I didn't think it could be missedI flirted with her during the interrogation. Then, when you reach out to Estoc to arrange negociations with embarr, you'll meet kaleidoscope who'll tell you his boss is in party alley at night. Boss is the interrogatrix and you can go there at night.Regarding thesecond oneYeah he's out of the way, on a boat south of the roundabout. Think you have to drain the water from the area to reach it but I'm not sure.
>>739566231What a dick fucking move, you gotta turn people into vegetables?
>>739566565The game does seem rather deceptively kinetic until the latter half
>>739566409It's right next to Gonza's place, but it's one of those few locations in the game where you have to click the ground prompt to turn camera angle to see it. Easy to miss, I ran into it by accident despite having searched for it beforehand
>>739566495>if you fail in being subtle enough I think thats more connected to death of the lich itself, because i too got jammed at the end. Now that architect of Luzian soft power is dead hardliners are clearly on a warpathBut maybe there are levels to this, because i don't remember the punitive strikes so maybe that happens only if fail at that, or maybe i just lacked skil to learn about it
>>739566719>spies are...le mean???
It was good. Lots of highs. I completed every quest other than the 6 wolf cups (found 5) and exhausted all the dialogue I could. Listened to all the voiced dialogue. Took 32 hours.The lead-in to the actual spy mission at the end is anticlimactic. There's no gathering at the bar with interaction between your recruits. You just get a black screen and spawn on the island, and then your team doesn't interact at all. Or do anything at all, really. You just walk to the top of the island, then you walk back down. The only thing you can do to impact the actual assignment is set a bomb and discs in the tram, and there's a tiny pool of skills actually used for checks in the final sequence. DE has a lot of the same issues. Good world building and NPC dialogue, garbage main story and resolution. I'd give DE a 9/10, and ZP an 8.5.
Goat eyes is my BRO
>>739565926>not as funny or poignant as discoBased. Disco had Millennial dogshit humor.
>>739566995if it wasn't for the cryptozoologist stuff, the ending for disco elysium would have been fucking dogshit imoa whodunnit where the killer gets introduced in the last hr of the game. sure some may argue "but the game was all about harry's emotional journey the case is irrelevant", sure but the solving of the murder is also the culmination of that journey regardless, the game ends after that lol
>>739565629He guts stuck in the boiler and dies. You can die in there as well.
>>739566719>this operative has drastic lack of "It"For real tho, those are just supposed for you to get better at your job, there is no punishment for using the bomb
>>739567252Can you at least save him?
>>739567345Don't think so. He talks about how based communism is and is dead when you return.
>>739567272sure, sure, I'm just in awe at how dickish the game lets you be
>>739567252lmao, you can cheat banks but you can't cheat your idiocy
>>739567392Such is the scene.
>>739567442>Kurt is introduced as ''young looking man''>looks like he's in his 40s
>>739567442>ballers of history>we'd all be [...] growing potatoesI knew he was funniest character in the game, but i didn't know i missed his funniest conversation
>>739567618yeah he looks like he's some old creep about to open his coat and show his limp cock
>>739567618when you meet kurts father the game notes they look almost same age
>>739567716
HOLOCENE is a top-tier character. I didn't examine the mold before extracting his "small controller," and my character was so schizo that she started talking to it. Still don't know if HOLOCENE is crazy, brain damaged from mold, or had something in his head controlling him. CASCADE was convinced the controller was actually the real HOLOCENE, lmao.
>>739568085it's the moldHope you didn't lobotomise him
Any dataminers to tell me which skill lines have the most lines and which are basically useless? I assume its just like DE and int the best with psy being second?
>>739545142Is it the same world as Disco? It looks very different. What’s the story about anyway?
>>739568726not a dataminer but Shadowplay by farNerve/Dopplegang/Grey matter/Records are also safe bets
>>739568872Its different world. >What’s the story about anyway?You are failed spy that wakes up in a room and finds your co-spy in lobotomized state. You have to find out whats your mission, and complete it to redeem yourself
>>739568707There is something in his head, and you can talk to it when you remove it. He's fine as long as you don't botch the surgery.
>>739566773>Can flirt so many times with Silhouette>Can place a hand in her thigh>she even says she likes you>asks for a kiss then stops>no kiss, No sex
>>739568872you move a character in isometric pov, the world is mid 20th century tech, the narrator has a thick english accenttheres people to talk to and sometimes you make decisions where the game forces stat checks that rely partially on rng and your character build
>>739569071Sounds interesting but I actually wanted more of the Disco world. It's a shame
>>739569186> I actually wanted more of the Disco worldMe too, but this world is interesting enough that i want something from both settings nowYour best hope for next disco game is for Kurvitz to discredit himself since i doubt Zaum will make sequel to DE if his next game is a hit, it would just bring back the controversy
>>739545142nah, female protagonist = dropped
>>739569186Same, but the world in ZP is also competently done and draws you in. I'd argue that naming is done even better than Disco, I love how EMTERR and Illuminated Empire sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9JfYVTubQThis track gives me an instant boner
I will protect Karolina with my life
>>739570421I kinda wish the 3d models looked betterIts hard to think of them in the world as the real thing when their 2d portrait looks always wildly different
Is it worth a pirate?Does it have SOVL?
>>739570695>Is it worth a pirate?Yes, absolutely>Does it have SOVL?Truth be told it only has moments of soul
Anyone else turned off the VO narrator off the bat? I found it very obnoxious after like the first five minutes
>>739570968you get used to it
>>739570968i wasnt as immediately repelled as most people, I guess I got used to her
>>739570550Same. There is also this strange spray paint shit everywhere that doesn't fit the models and background at all.And the tiny feet, I can't unsee the ridiculously tiny feet.
>>739570695I've yet to finish but I have to conclude that it in fact does.
>>739571269>tiny feetits lame
>>739570550I can ignore the models, but the animations suck and that can really kill the tension
>>739571345Ok there is no way Ultra Violeta is not Luzian Asset
>>739570695Don't listen to the retards, it's a fail copy of DE
>>739571710>Don't listen to the retardsDon't worry, most people interested in these games are mindless tardos like you. They're not going to mindlessly listen to you.
>>739571710its a copy, but a good one
>>739571710Gameplay wise it has enough tweaks and changes to stand on its own
>>739560107NTA but the way the game progresses the time is almost exactly cannon to the setting. As long as you don't do anything (act or think) time doesn't progress
>>739571710that was Esoteric Ebb
>>739570421septimus was too good for her
>>739569087Rabbit knows
melita owes me sex
I'll take it. Hopetown keeps teasing without delivering. No idea what the fuck is happening with the Tangerine and why it's third person now. Red info and Summer eternal are yet to show anything.Honestly I doubt any of these will ever touch Disco. It was a lightning in the bottle. Also people keep idolizing people like Kurvitz and Tulik and demonizing the little guys at zaum (I really doubt any of the programmers for example had any say in the drama. Fuck the CEO and moneybags tho). But look at Kojima for example. Everybody always talk about him like he is the solo dev doing everything, or as if people in his studio are just gears that don't matter. But look at Death Stranding. People have been lost in the transition from Konami. Not everyone migrated to the new Kojima production. And somethis has been lost, DS writing, gameplay and cohesion, characters, character writing, dialogue are all significantly worse than MGS. Dont put people on the pedistal, game development is a team effort, and the Disco team is gone forever.
>>739572801we are not getting disco 2 so I just want for every game on this list to be as good as esoteric ebb or zero parades
>>739572801I doubt any game will ever match Disco. Now having played and thoroughly enjoyed Zero Parades, I finally understand just how defining Harry was for the experience, and you can't make a protagonist like him without luck and skill
who the fuck is kurt? was my game bugged? i beat the entire game and did all the content i could find and i never once found a person named Kurt
>>739572801>>739573336Is esoteric ebb actually worth a play.
>>739573696Yes
>>739573696It's a D&D session, focusing more on jokes and examining D&D-type worldbuilding with absurd realism. A devil explains how resurrection insurance works. And a halfling debates you on the topic of alignment and how good/evil is defined in a world where it can be measured by spells. Then the game actually lets you be a Nazgal (National Azgalist) in the end, and is clearly anti-immigration.
>>739573696I'd you enjoy Pratchett's Discworld books, it's a must
>>739571710>it's a fail copyhello saar
>>739570550The models were always ugly kino.
>>739572801Crazy how 3/5 are about commie lesbians and the other 2/5 won't ever release because they're being worked on by idiots that are terrible with handling money.
>>739573382You can encounter him on path from bar to housing apartments
>>739574610thats trying to follow the character sheetzp models are placeholders
>>739573382Just below the inspectable tuk-tuk next to the bridge
>>739574704>>739575432the guy that gets into debt over a jacket? i did his quest and he said he was going to go to the palace but then never showed up there, guess i missed outalso is there a reward for getting all 6 cups? i only found 5
>>739570968her voice with the purple skills is particularly jarring and are the ones I heard the most for the first hour or so, it was pretty off putting, but I got used to it after a while.
like 5-10 hours after I gave that dickhead dad wiśnia bottle that he gave me nothing for the drunk is actually asking for it FUUUUUCK and its connected to that fuckass Kurt quest I dont even know if I can get another bottle
>>739577196You can find one more on-tour later on, I can't remember where though
>>739570968I was instantly upset about it but it grew on meIf they picked someone good the whole game would be a lot better, Disco is massivly elavated by their narrator and in this game you have to first get through how annoying and nasally she sounds
>>739577196>>739577243Never mind lol you can just buy that shit in the bar I was super stressed out it was a one time item
The next evolution of this kind of game is having the player script fully change based on stats, similar to Fallout's low intelligence mode. Not just low success rate checks, but something completely different. No quirk chungus without having high spiritual stats. No supercop/superspy without high intelligence.
Was he based?
You like to play CASTLEVANIA!
>>739581534Ok what the fuck or who the fuck is even bagman
>>739581664he felt like such a nothing-character, it's really disappointing
>>739581534What was the deal with the copper lady?
>>739557242> end of history90s political theory. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, it was fashionable to pretend that every alternative having failed, everything will be liberal democracies (aka neoliberal globohomo technocracies) ever after. It was retarded. The game use it to make fun of in-game politics.
>>739557242the tech level stuff confused me too, Superbloc was the first to launch an orbital rocket and satellite years before any other nation, yet Luz is so advanced that they have Lunar colonies and space-concerts?
>>739545142Actually it is infinitely better than DiscoThe scene of you imprinting yourself on Pseudopod is the most fucked up shit I've ever seen in a game. It's great.
>>739584609How about I like both.
>>739584609It's pretty good, and they can actually make more games in this universe.
how do you start the quest where you find out about the gap?
The bartender's an actual spy right? Didn't really notice at first because I wasn't paying attention to the portraits. Is the whole game just making fun of you for working in the open?
>>739585925>just making fun of you for working in the openShadowplay sure is. The amount on insults it dishes out for asking retarded questions to authority figures is hysteric.
I can't find Marco or the headphones guy they are referencing.Not sure if it's a bug or notThe only major bug I experienced was the Doctor on the boat not spawning. I was wondering why it was empty and when I went up to the room I just stole the doll for the other doctor with little issue. I left, went back in and then he spawned
>>739586534Marco is in front of the doctor's office. The sex pest, not the normal one.
>>739586619Yeah that's where I first talked to him near the start of the game. He's not there anymore.
>>739586695Did Yana ask you to find him?
>>739586695You need to progress through the main search. If an npc suddenly goes missing it means you need to progress "the world state."
>start Hauztman listen to tape scene with 7 Delirium>constant attrition sent it past 20
>>739586903I savescummed and lowered my delirium when I found out it'd fuck me that hard
How to I progress the quest with your former comrade you found at the bottom of the missile silo? I can't get back in. I just let my Handler decipher the code I picked up in his room
>>739586903Yeah I really don't fuck with this. You have almost no idea when any check is going to stack +1 and no way to reduce it during dialogue. I guarantee you 100% of players just load a save and reduce the offending bar instead of actually taking the skill loss.
>>739587102i took it because I'm not a bitch
>>739545142The fuck does this have to do with disco Elysium?
Why is boatman unvoiced?
>>739587102Htat's why drugs and alcohol are fucking free and abundant, You're supposed to manage your stresses before getting into shit
What a gigachad
>>739586718Yeah I have the quest to find him
>>739587208Yeah, but as I say, sometimes it just creeps up on you. Some red checks just stack +1 on bars, some don't, there are passive failure stacks, and so on. How do you figure that giving PSEUDOPODs body viagra is going to cost you 4 fatigue even on success?
>>739587102I take the skill loss because its what i consider reroll meta
>>739587432Yeah, I think the devs went all in on the idea that you WILL lose a skill point here and there and I respect their commitment, but it really goes against the gaming instinct, isn't it.
These countries gotta be part of EMTERR?
>>739572801ZAUM is going to win the discobowl, just watch others fall flat on their faces
>>739588964So far nothing the others shown looks even remotely on the level, and the actual projected losers managed to come out strong in the end. Turns out games in a studio are not made by one or even three people.Who's the artist on Zero Parades btw, some pretty good work, but I haven't see anyone mention the source
>>739588964It's gonna be so fucking funny.
>>739589062Kaspar Tamsalu is ZA/UM's current Lead Artist, and judging by his ArtStation he was around for Disco Elysium:https://www.artstation.com/kaspartamsalu
holy kek it's insane how much you can fuck with eszti
>>739586903what was Hauzzman anyways? i thought he was just going to be a figment of our internal spying but he was just an actual superspy no one knew existed?
ZP does the exact same thing DE does. It sets up an extremely cool setting and give you the most stale and safe part of it. Once the plot starts going, it ends.
>>739590050>complete shit until he works on DEWow, incredible what a bit of art direction can doI've also found out that all of the more surreal art was made by Anton Vill, the same guy who did the thought cabinet for DE, he's got the most hilarious bio>he moved to Australia in 2003 to work as an animator with Total War studio, Creative Assembly. In 2004, he joined Sydney-based Animal Logic, where he produced concept art for the Oscar-winning animated movie, Happy Feet
>>739588964Obviously. ZA/UM is a functional developer and their post-DE game achieved critical acclaim. The other currently announced projects look like ass, and SUMMER ETERNAL is a communist scam that will never work or materialize as a game. Kurvitz might be too far up his own ass to get anything done, and it could very well be the case that he relied on Tuulik's input as well as the ZA/UM editors to make his writing good.
this dialogue/scene alone is better than anythin in DE
>>739591518i liked this part
>Supposed to deliver the cup to the Duchess' boat>every time I come it says "come back during the day"When is it fucking actually open, because 16 is still "during the day" in my book
>>739591793Whenever the kids disappear from the bazaar is too late.
>>739557125Just like me.
Is this a good follow up to Disco?Personally i would have love a Lovecraftian take on this type of narrative quasi-tabletop gaem.
>>739592780>Personally i would have love a Lovecraftian take on this type of narrative quasi-tabletop gaemThats what i keep saying! Give me cosmic horror rpg, either something new or adapt either of the tabletop games
>recruiting the green beetle as a member of your crew actually pays off if you bring PSEUDOPOD on the mission, he flies out of his pocket and gouges out the eyeball of the monocle dudeholy ok
>thought unlocks babby modekek
another proof it's better than DETakes massive balls to put a game out with an explicit torture scene of a little girl
>>739557242>so I have a question, maybe I've missed it, but what is the "end of history"?Oh my god have some curiosity for something beyond video game lore I'm fucking begging you.
>>739593227There's a whole session of a man saying how he found two teenagers fucking and how his military group fucked them up.
>>739593239NTA, but its clear that this end of history is literal, and a result of communists winning super hard. It draws the name from fukuyama but is completely different thing
>>739587187(You)
CAPITALISM WINS AGAIN I LOVE SCAMMING COMMIES FOR INFINITE MONEY
>>739593773does anything special happen if you have the actual gun and the DIY gun both?
>>739593826yes, you get some bonus dialog options, like you can tell ramses you are double gunned up
>>739550137I appreciate that Green Arrow, at the very least, is consistent.
>>739545142Cascade shouldnt have been lesbian It would have been hotter if she would have flirted with fascist james bond instead
>>739593773Thats your sugar money giving you stuff nigga...you a ho now.
>>739593939Dude is so consistent that even dead in the Absoluteverse he is hunting down Epsteins from beyond the grave.
>>739594087Every other female character in vidya should be a lesbian, you fucking homo.
>>739594087She might be bi
>>739594292I mean, it's almost certainly speedy/arsenal not actual Olli. But the jaunty cap knows no peace while epstiens live
>>739594439I think this being an universe made of out there takes, it might be a zombie.But its probably Roy or even Mia.
>>739594087She's attracted to men tooShe says the guy waiting for the tram number 9 is super attractive
>>739594412Nah
>>739594498>even Mia.christ don't give them idea's and have them make Absolute Dinah lesbians with Absolute green lantern
>>739594087she's very clearly bi, there are thoughts about how KALEIDOSCOPE is hot
>>739594509>>739594412>she is biThats just makes Ignatz even more pathetic. No It, no Game, no nothing
>>739594725During my playthrough her thoughts were too focused on caling him a nonce
The writer responsible for bazaar sure liked the words nonce and pederast
>>739594087But I like women, so the women I play as should like women too.
>>739594835i got both, the nonce thing is a little weird because he just likes her music
>>739594757It makes sense to want your spies to be prepared to bang either gender to advance your glowie agenda.
Lots of europedoshit in this game. CASCADE reminisces about getting wet looking at a 16-year old girl's bulging pussy in gym class while climbing a rope, and later there's dialogue about the phone perv getting and giving handjobs to another boy at 14.
>>739594087Extremely tired, even trite trope.Just don't pick homo thoughts
>>739594087She's attracted to the nigger male prostitute, and no one else. Yeah, very subtle ZA/UM.
>>739595152Ite actually called Estonian love, its part of baltic culture
>>739595152This is great, it elevates the game. Did you read Sacred and Terrible Air? The style stuck it seems.
>Kaleidoscope>Pseudopod>HoloceneThe perfect squad because they're all expendable
We need more shameless based pedophiles in vidya, enough of this tame toddler shit.
Does the game have cool fashion like Elysium?
>>739595824its let down by doughy low fidelity 3d models
>>739595634who can even do the cupbearer role other than kaleidoscope?
>>739596203Yo-yo
kek this game is completely unhinged
>>739596398She truly is /ourgirl/
Does it matter if you get caught and interrogated by Silhouette or manage to escape before that?
>>739573696Yes.
I’m glad politics mostly took a backseat in this game even though you would think it would be more political than Disco given the subject matter. Esoteric Ebb was fun and the politics were novel in a DnD setting, but I don’t think future Disco-likes should be derivative with politics like that especially if they can’t write them well. It can get old fast.
>>739593353I missed this, where?
Sex
So YO-YO and KALEIDOSCOPE are mutually exclusive right?
>>739598379every time she clicks the pen I cum
>>739597107If thats really the case i might give it a shot (pirated ofcourse)
>>739545142>Did you finish it?I never even considered playing this trash considering who made it.Would rather replay DE a hundred times.
wait this is out? wtf
how are you guys feeling about the new skill portraits? the badge/pins are cute but don't feel as memorable to me compared to the ones from disco elysium, specifically ones like volition, authority, and half life are my favorites. Whereas for zero parades the only one that really stands out so far is instincts, statehood, and grey matter.
>>739599842I don't remember any of them after finishing the game.
Yana is my ride or die
>first playthrough>elevated anxiety right off the bathow do i minmax my chances on not getting this shit
>>739595634But HOLOCHAD isn't expendable. Pretty sure he can't even die regardless of what you do he's just that based
It's fundamentally impossible to make a good Disco-like with a female protagonist. Esoteric Ebb proved it was necessary. That other new Disco-like with the girl will fail too.Women are incapable of the internal depth of thought and will instinctively use all social means possible to avoid suffering, rather than trying to accomplish anything. They cannot be protagonists in an internal-narrative-heavy game Harry is most men, while this chick is no women on the planet. It is not plausible and it ruins the game at the core from the outset.
>>739607631Keep your incel madness to yourself.
>>739607631You just need a man in your life to give your ass a good reaming, then you'd be normal.
>>739607950Completely unprompted unasked for opinion btw
>>739559850 >>739560553I managed to not get the disc stolen, and went to Bagman before going to Hauzmann and gave him the disc willingly, so the latter disappeared. Now I can't listen to the disc from the silo. Wonder if it will prevent me from using the red disc for the final mission
>>739605148She's such a coomer.
>>739596812you miss out on a hot torture scene and probably can't date her
>>739545142Esoteric Ebb is superior in every imaginable way to disco elysium
>>739609483Zero Parades is better than them both
Give me a quick rundown on this game. Whats its deal. Is it worth playing if you liked DE
Why is the voiceover and the text so often different from each other
>>739598379It's unreal how sexy she is
>>739599842They do the job, but I can't think of a single skill that was more memorable than their Disco equivalents
Cascade's dialogue is a bit too much like Harry, like they're trying to come up with *wacky* *zany* stuff to say instead of the normal option
Gonza is hilarious
>Gave the card to ESTOC without writing anything in itam I retarded
>>739545142cany you rp psychopath that betrays/kills everyone?
>>739545142Ho woke is it?Should i pirate it like any commie game?
>>739545142Can you ever cure Pseudopod or is his only fate being either a lifetime vegetable or literally (You)?
I dont want to play a lesbian I want to play a cute gay spy hooking up with hot spy men
>>739609619You play a spy that is about to go on a hardcore assassination missionYes, it is better than DE
>>739609483EE was painfully mid with the bluntest political messaging I've seen in a game
>>739610314yes to psychopath, no to betrayal per se
>>739610026Midlife crisis always hit the same beats no matter what. People would complain and call her a stick in the mud if she had no humor in her internal thoughts at all. That was the initial reaction to demo too.
>>739574070>I'd you enjoyThat's the kind of post I'd expect from a Ratshit fan.
>>739610383It's neither woke nor communist
What would your codename be if you were an operant? I reckon DERVISH would be cool
>>739610657Ok, i'll trust you
Why are there like 4 different versions each of France, Italy and Spain in this world>>739599842I prefer the enamel badges, I think they're cute. I also like the creepy brainwashing tapes that play when you unlock a new thought
Hope you're not listening to Ultra-slopoletta or any other L-slop, it literally kills you!
I'd prefer early Cascade design over what we got
>>739609541>>739610519seethe trannoids
>>739610914I wish I had screenshotted his line about superbloc plastic being harmful to burn when you purchase ''Superbloc baby!'' from him
>>739609730Indie studio, please understand.
>>739610914this has to be the most gay and cringe game ever made
>>739611136Game needs more female wings. I found two with fake stache/beard, but only one with female hairstyle. Really weird for a spy game with female protagonist
>>739611136Looks very cool, but not fucked up enough for a washed out has-been with a broken psyche.
>>739597748He's talking about the conversation with the 'scab leader' in DE.
Apparently, you get the Stubborn Wolf cup in the rocket silo, while searching for the launch records. If you successfully pass the first white check you are fucked.
>>739598379I think I got like the second worst outcome of the torture scene and holy fuck that shit had me diamonds the entire time especially the part if you fail the statehood check
>>739610314Yes, maybe you cant betray everyone but a lot of people
>>739613217>the part if you fail the statehood checkYou can't post that without sharing us the details
>>739612178you can't be serious
>>739610709Im thinking that ANCIENT would be fitting
>>739609483Its not, but it gets a pass because of how based politics are in this game
>>739610719Its communist in same sense as james bond is capitalist. You are here to stop evil plots not discuss theory and any ideological talk is just window dressing
>>739607631>Fiction has to be a 1:1 replica of the retarded clownworld i live in. Ok cuck
>>739609483Oh wow, where do I even start? Honestly, I’m not surprised at all that your post did so well. I mean, with my legendary upvoting skills, it’s basically like I’m the chosen one with the One Ring of Reddit karma.Seriously, your post is like the Rick and Morty episode where they discover the infinite upvote dimensions. I’m basically your Rick, and let’s just say, I’ve got the portal gun to the top of Reddit.And let’s be real, your post got the approval of the Avengers’ Endgame squad. I’m talking Iron Man-level validation here, folks. My upvote is like Thor’s hammer—only worthy posts get to wield it.If this were a video game, my upvote would be like unlocking the ultimate cheat code for infinite karma and a rainbow-colored loot drop. You’re now the final boss with an epic high score, and I’m just the player who made it happen.So keep being your awesome self, and remember, I’m always here to sprinkle some cosmic upvote magic on your next post. Stay epic!
>>739613698basically you try to use an opera technique that turns you braindead to stop her from getting more info, she uses her own mindfuckery to break Hershel at which this happens and she fully revels in breaking youplus it also helped that her little laugh was cute too
>>739614686Hey, hol up, she doesn't remove pants from you. Only the top layer. Hmmm. Hmmmm.
>>739615036:^)
I just retrieved the Disk from the Silo. The dialogue with Hauzmann suggests that going back home to play it is a point of no return. So, would it lock me out of my currently open quests?
>>739615229I think that's the game giving you a chance to go see Bagman instead, it progresses the story but it doesn't lock you out of anything else.
>>739613776I checked the steam forums and that's the only answer I found, you may have noticed that there is a panel in that same room that you can't do anything with after retrieving the data, that's what you had to interact with. I didn't go back to check though, maybe it's possible to get it later.
>>739614448thanks bro, that means a lot
Be a sad fascist or the chud build as I would like to call it.Fascism choices gives sol (money) with the thought unlocked you get after enough fascism dialog choices.Being sorry gives experience after you have unlocked the thought for being sorry enough times.
>>739592780>>739592892Try Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones.Closest game I can think of that fits that description.
>>739615853Speaking of thoughts, any must haves? I didn't focus on them much on my playthrough, though I did ignore the Wang one despite it looking like a fun one
>>739618481the one that lets you steal from vending machines is really good, alongside the sorry stuff and the fascist stuffshadowcop is pretty good if you mostly play around the nighttime bonuses
If I put all points into physical skills and fail all other, would that make for a fun playthrough?
Glad there's a thread about it. I'm loving it. About to finish it right now. Been a good year for DiscoGODS. This and Esoteric Ebb both rule.
>>739618481Year zero is extremely good for endgame You lose ability to reroll, but at this point those tests are all red anyway
>>739619457Probably, one of red skills is used for every other roll
Fun prediction
If you like Disco Elysium but bought Zero Parades then you are a traitor
>>739607631I know this is bait but I do think this too somewhat. But I am an open-minded misogynist incel extremist.Can someone sell me on CASCADE/Hershel as a protag? Does she get better after the point the demo ends?
>>739618481There's this one thought you get for bitching a lot about how the universe conspires against you that unlocks a settings options that lowers all active rolls by 1.Then if you read the comic from the book stand you can get Umbral Host for +1 to rolls at night. This is basically 30 skill points for the price of 2. 45 for 3 if you're willing to micro Year Zero and turn it on/off for level ups.Dialogue-wise, I honestly haven't found any of the skills to insert anything particularly cool. Maybe the one about crew memories, I'm not sure if the flashbacks unlock without it.
>>739620779Good thing I pirated both Disco Elysium and this, then. No, it's not out of some commie hate. I'm just a neet cunt.
>>739619730I finished Esoteric Ebb yesterday and I loved it. A much more satisfying ending than that of Disco Elysium. I guess I'll wishlist Zero Parades, I'm good for CRPGs for now.
She's so cute, bros... I wish I didn't bring her along, but I had no choice. I pissed the old woman off. (For some reason, she didn't read the letter even though I put it on her mailbox, so I had to use statehood on her and piss her off permanently)Now I can do nothing but gaslight her.
>failed literally every red check back to back in the final section>still only had one death and got the second best endingShoutout to the skitzo gäng, [spoiler[PSEUDOPOD, HOLOCENE, and KALEIDOSCOPE.[/spoiler]Luck and skill!
>>739621265Another red check failed.
Is it possible to die at the end? It definitely gets minus kino points if it isn't.
I assumed that the place to buy monkey the companion is in bazaar in the stand with plushies but I dont get any prompt to do it - is this glitched or do you get it elswhere?
fuuuuug
>>739621265>Shadowplay. Failure 6: You can't even spoiler tag your own post, how did they let you out of the freezer.
Just finished the gameThat last shoot out thing was really cool. The entire ending really ended on a high note
never seen a game so far up its own ass except for disco elysium, it's almost like its made by the same people
Time to ACTIVATE IT
>>739621512Who is Ramses?
>>739621736>it's almost like its made by the same peopleIronically, it's not.
>>739621939Hacker weed man. Should have gone to the boat near where you get dropped off after the interrogation.
>>739621939>he didn't find RamsesBack to the freezer with you.
Having to gaslight this poor woman into a suicide mission because I fucked up the alternative that could be here instead of her is breaking my heart.
kek based
>>739622059>>739622080Damn I missed him entirely
>>739622379The hint I got about him was extremely subtle. If you speak to Reno, he says he found him somewhere in the shore.I never found the cop, though.
;_;
What is this genre called? Faggotlike? Commiecore?
>>739622506>I never found the cop, though.Goat eyes can tell you he got zeroed by mafia five years ago
>>739622594disco elysium-likenarrative rpg
>>739622174You didnt recrut the based shitzo?
KEKFuck, I'm actually so excited for the ending. The game did a perfect job building it up the entire time.
>>739622834Oh, yeah, I could have used him too. But Ramses didn't want to work with him and the phone girl told me he'd be horrible... I feel like with Karolina there might be a chance, no matter how remote. That dude is my favorite character in the game. At least this way I can headcanon he 100% escapes alive.
>>739622594Planetscape Torment-like.
did you guys run into any NPCs who care about you wearing the suit from the tailor? shits expensive
>>739545142which Disco devs worked on this? Ive heard you play as a female spydoes that mean you essentially play as Klaasje? what's her bodycount?
>>739623045Speaking of which, this came out only 2 years before Disco and flopped hard. Why?
>>739623554Pic never fucking uploads
>>739623537Klaasje's different, her espionage was corporate while Cascade is an assassin (in this assignment)
>>739622834>>739623021You literally can't have Ramses and the Schizo on the mission. Game doesn't let you.
>>739623647so you cant play as a slut? bo-ringwhy even bother with a femc then?
>>739624487There isn't much seduction in this game which is a shame. You can flirt and have fantasies at most.
>>739623313there were three guys blocking the entrance to the apartments zone, and Kurt thinks they are on the scene and only respect people with good clothes, but by the time I got the suit they were gone already, I'm not sure what I did.
>>739624731yeah I dont understand their approach with sexevery flirt dialogue goes npc:no thanks "thought:witty retord" in a fucking torture scene the torturer leaves the mcs pants and bra onis this for little kids
>>739624731>and have fantasies at mostthat's agp sissy tier. man they dont make them like FO2 anymore dont they>>739624917>in a fucking torture scene the torturer leaves the mcs pants and bra onlel. now they wont even take their pants off? I thought the burka thing was a meme
>>739621032is it actually good? i tried it for like 30 minutes and maybe it was the art atyle but it felt really reddit
Man, betraying her felt shit.
>>739623554>>739623645Very short.Act 3 is a masterpiece but act 2 is an abomination upon isometric RPG.You either love it or hate it. It's not a good game. It's a this was meant for me game.
>>739626053Yeah and it's the point. Fitting for the spy game though, cold calculations, anything for the mission, no place for sentimentality. And you do learn very crucial stuff if you do it.Also funny bit of dialogue if you wear her hurt during the exchange.
>>739626291CRPG really need to avoid "acts" it seemsthey never have equally good acts across the board, like bg3 has shitty last 30h
>>739626053I like it better when she becomes a Renegade who'll sing to Cascade forever
>>739625917I guess it can get "reddit" at times. But I really enjoyed the characters and the world building. If you enjoyed Disco Elysium for the same reasons, then you would need to be an absolutely joyless fuck to not enjoy Esoteric Ebb. Or just not a fan of fantasy or D&D specifically, I suppose.
>>739626307>her hurtI meant Shirt, goddamn it
>>739572801ZP studio has 80 peopleI wonder if any of the off shoots will reach anywhere near zp level of production values
How are Citizen Sleeper games? Saw them being mentioned a few times during the Disco discussions but never tried them myself
>>739625917Its game from sweden. So its a given its little reddit, but unlike DE or ZP you can be genuine nacionalist to the point of creating nazism in this setting
So from what I understand this game is the "evil" one from the publisher that fucked up Disco creators.So what are the Disco creators up to? Where is the "good" game
>>739626527Citizen Sleeper 1 was very good (a minor problem is that it becomes trivially easy once you get a way to restore your android health), but I couldn't gel with 2. Can't really say why.
>>739626753>So what are the Disco creators up to?picrel >>739572801
>People here are actually playing and enjoying the game >But will shit for principle on games for being "woke" or "for chuds"Hilarious, actually, you fucking hypocrites, boycotting shit that didnt do anything wrong like KCD 2 but being okay with this objectively scummy stolen piece of trash. Glad that its getting review bombed by actual human beings instead of you fucktards
>>739572801why all female mcs?
>>739626978cry more, commie faggot
>>739626371>>739626647ill give it another try, can i go all-in on being a seducing wizard or am i forced to be a chud cleric detective
>>739626978So you are the ultimate judge of what deserves to be shat on? Fuck you for being hypocrite. They created good game so i will talk about it
>>739627037Its sexually arousing to plays a woman who is presented with lewd scenarios in an rpg setting
>>739627056Seethe you corpo dicksucker
>>739627037Harry was a peak male MC. You can't beat him
>>739627084Every skill has ideology and class tied to itSTR - Nationalism/Conservativism, clericINT - Totalitarian magocracy with (you) ruling, wizardDEX - Libertarianism, RogueEND - Agrarianism, Barbarian WIS - Social democracy, druid CHA - Apolitical, BardYou always start as cleric and have to complete your mission, but you can change your class and pick your ideology freely >can i go all-in on being a seducing wizardYes, but i hope you like monster women, MC has a type
>>739626978I don't play open world games and I have no idea why you would confuse people that are earnestly and excitedly talking about an indie game that recently came out with the kinds of retards that only care about twitter culture war drama. The Eye of Sauron looked at your game because of Vavra's reputation and le black and le gay sex and that's all that mattered to them.
>>739626978Not my problem and not my war.
>>739621448OK walked around a bit - the telephone pervert will only speak to you if you're wearing it
>>739627731>monster womenare we talking anime type monster women, or literally like female minotaurs
>>739627740>are earnestly and excitedly talking about an indie game that recently came outLol, lmao, saying this with a game associated with capitalist whores who kicked out the people actually responsible for their success and then went with...this, soulless copy
Carabinero outfit is so fucking cool
>>739627731>Yes, but i hope you like monster women, MC has a typeNot even specifically monster women. Just strong women. Which means that the actually best girls (dark elf, hag) are not romancible.>>739627849Like female orc and bugbear, so yes.
How do you impress the tailor? Do you get anything good for doing so?
>>739627849You have already seen the artstyle, so its not as literaly monstrous as it could be, but definitely not anime typeYou can shot your shot with Bugbear, Orc (or half orc), Angel (picrel) or Sphinx
>>739628165I wish Ettir was more porcelain looking.
>>739627914The game needed more trench coats.Can't be a spy without a trench coat
>wire tapping into the call between Gonzo and HugoLmaoooo this guy
>>739628401I missed this, fuck
>>739623537>which Disco devs worked on this?I wonder the same. woke journos made the story that everyone who was worth something was being kicked by evil capitalists running the studio. I guess it was all a lie.
>>739628165>Best girl>Already speaks PolishEttir was tailor made for me>>739628217I can see why you would think that, and i guess it could work but I kinda like what they went with when it comes to her porcelain cracks, it reminds me of that traditional japanese art of fixing pottery with gold (or something like that)Also her completely missing part of the head that contains eyes is amazing design choice
>Ramses quest to get him meds>the supplier turns out to be Goat-eyes>IF you're chill he is incredibly chill too, and basically gives you meds for freeHe truly is the GOAT
>>739623537Allegedly 29 from current 80 workers at Zaum worked on disco elysium
>>739628401gonzo is the best>>739628545you missed out bigly
>>739628545its kinda hard to missyou meet ramses and the boat has wiretap deviceyou go gonza and the game pushes you to wiretap himyou go back to ramses you listen to recordings
>>739628545Then you also missed Gonzo phone sex
>>739627976No idea, I impressed him first shot. Had the starting pants, the fluffy pop star jacket from the Bazaar I think and god knows what else. It's just a single clap from him and a big -anxiety, nothing noteworthy.That jacket's pretty good by the way, it also gets you +mod for rolls with the fan-shifters since they find it cool.
>>739623537>>739628751Most of the people that worked on 2019 Disco Elysium didn't work on Zero Parades, but ZA/UM hired a lot of people to prop up the original version into the Final Cut, and a lot of those people worked on Zero Parades.With that said, from the OG crew, the names of note that worked on both are:>4 Artists (Kaspar Tamsalu, Markus Härma, Siim Raidma, and making the move from "Additional Art" to Lead Illustrator, Anton Vill)>2 Writers (Justin Keenan, just an editor on Disco Elysium, writing director for Zero Parades. Big upgrade. Likewise, Siim Sinamäe went from "Additional Writing" in Disco Elysium to Principal Writer in Zero Parades.)>1 Programmer (Wiktor Rott)>1 Animator (The main animator of Disco Elysium, Eduardo Rubio)>1 Voice Over All Purpose Guy (Mikee W. Goodman)>A shitload of voice castFrom the so called 5 successors, this is gonna be somewhere in between the second and third place of the games if we're ranking them by the amount of people of note that worked on the original DE. And if we just look at sheer numbers of people that worked on both, it's easily in the first place. Having said that, the other ones to look out for are whatever Red Info LTD are working on (Main guy behind DE is there) and whatever Summer Eternal are working on (A good amount of writers from the original are there)Honestly, this split is the best thing that could have happened for people that just want more games like Disco Elysium. Sure, the sequel is lost, but I don't care all that much.
>>739627976You mean for the discount?
This ending has been a fucking rollercoaster. Holy fuck.AAAAH SHITTHIS IS IT! THIS IS IT!
>>739626978>KCD 2Devs being sneaky jews, stabbing players in the back after the first game.>Zero ParadesDevs shutting up and not giving a damn about the internet shitting on them due to the ZAUM drama, instead just making a solid game that speaks for itself with funny interactions that people screencap and post here naturally.
Is tempo really a boar now?
Alright, coordination, you've convinced me. I'm using the fucking bomb.
>>739627037Harry can't be toppedThey are sparing themselves from the embarrassment
This is proper spy shit. And again, the build up towards this ending has been so good.
>>739629614The one where he says you're too tense if you don't pass
I'M DOING IT
>>739630042Yeah, what you get from that is a 50% discount on the shit he sells. All you need to do is talk to him about it while your psyche bars are all below the first mark. Use the sleeping pills and talk to him first thing in the morning.
>>739629864>instead just making a solid game*Copying the previous one made by people they fired
Fuck it, intellectual skills speak to me.Put all points in intellect, 2 points in sensor, 1 point in blueprints.Is it a good idea? Or does the game expect you to have at least a secondary skilline?
>>739630280You're gonna want to spread out a bit during the game as you level up, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with starting like that. Also, there's a few skills that feel intellectual even if they aren't categorized there (Shadowplay, for example)
GAME IS EDGING ME HARD. I'M ACTUALLY GONNA DO IT NOW.
>>739630409Yeah, I play to round out the character as I get XP and whatever the replaced the thought cabinet with.What's the cap on skills (both soft and hardcap)?
KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>739630280As long as you pick up Shadowplay it will be fine. Shadowplay is really core of your skillset no matter the build
>>739630239Making a solid game*This is no Back 4 Blood or Callisto Protocol, everyone would be making fun of how shit and talentless the game is if, you know, that was the case. /v/ is the first place that shits on games underservedly, like right now with First Light. If Zero Parades is getting actual discussion going, it's because it's _________good_________.
This one is especially satisfying. Get fucked, cocksucker.I honestly thought there was a chance that the game wouldn't have let me win and was gonna cuck me out. The realization of the bomb and then the actual execution. God damn. Extraordinary finale.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Advice on stress management?
>>739631146I played it pretty naturally without issues, failing some checks and getting a couple of level downs as the developers intended. It's there to add tension but not actually an issue. But if you want to game the system and min max it, it's pretty easy. Find a way to pass the time (Hint: Silo place), do jobs to get money (No actual time limit so you can do this eternally), then:1) Buy weed from goat eyes2) Min anxiety3) Use alcohol and cigars to min out the others at the cost of anxietyRinse and repeat until your bars are at 0
Ah, fuck. GG.
>>739631146sleep drugs basically reset the stuff after sleep
>>739629541something similar happened with cdpr. I'm just glad we're getting more of witcher style rpg with dawnwalker.
OhI guess there's no way to actually die in the finale? I failed this check but Karolina was just alive after all and saved me anyways? Good smoke and mirrors but kinda got exposed here a little bit. Honestly, the game should have the balls to kill you at this point. That would have been a cool ending too. I wouldn't have minded.
i am in the silo now, reading up about the space missionThey tried to erase the astronauts self so that they would be able to communicate with the stars right? That's also what's on the red tape, the stars
>>739631798there is a way to off urself u pathetic blogposting casual
>>739632023Keep playing, you will get your answers when debriefing hauzmann
>>739631798That skill check determines if Ramses lives
Ah fuck I almost had clean exhaustion for the first time since start of the game and then I got Karolina's torture dream and now I'm back to spiking on everythingBetween that sequence and imprinting myself on Pseudopod Cascade might be the most evil main character I ever played - this chick is FUCKED UP
>>739633446>This anon didn't trade innocent person for some infromation
>>739633630>>739633446They should have given you even more options of going full psycho
I did it>>739632256I see. Yeah, he died on my playthrough. Oh well.>>739632146Offing yourself is picking a choice where you sacrifice yourself. You're telling me there's no moments where you lose a check and die as a result in the big spy finale, which is what I'm complaining about.
>>739626307to be fair, I didn't trade her at first because I already knew from different sources all the information I needed. I guess the game wants you to do this so it is more shocking when you realize the double was the real guy all along.
woooooow dude... how was I supposed TO KNOW THAT? bugged spy mechanics
Yikes. Well, at least the game isn't afraid to shit on you for fucking up. Hey, I bombed shit, killed a bunch of cunts and Karolina and Holocene lived through it. I'll take it.Also, I tried letting the double go but they just killed him and blamed it on me anyways. Can't even correct Melita on that.
>>739634454>so it is more shocking when you realize the double was the real guy all alongIf you actually talk with him second time, discuss fascism with him, and then pass white check you can actually figure it out on your own.The way he talks about the process of coping the identity (and his comment about you using the luzian machine on pseudopod) meant that there is no way he isn' mental clone
Settling on this. Wasted enough time on character creation.Wish me luck.
>>739634897Luck and skill, operant.
>>739634698>You can get rank below classic XYZDamn
Absolutely kino ending. I kneel, ZA/UM. Hope this game succeeds and they get to do more cool shit like this.
>>739634748I saved a couple of screenshots from my conversations with him and honestly there's nothing here that I think indicates he'd be the minister. But maybe I just missed out on some other conversation you can have with him.
>>739634698>Shadowplay. Failure 14: Lich alive. International Incident started. Pop singer safely returned home. It? Not detected
>>739635274Weeping Eye crippled and the minister is never gonna show up ever again and will enjoy a vacation somewhere. All is well that ends well.
>>739635267>>739634748i remember there being conversations with someone else, maybe KALEIDOSCOPE, that reveals stuff about him, not sure thoughone thing i do think is a little odd is that when youre describing the Ginkyo tree to him on the phone, im like 90% sure he says there are 3 living copies of the Minister
part of me wants to try playing the game again but just going all-in on being a cold spy, never sharing info with anyone and never saying weird bullshit stuff, but i worry itd be boring
>>739636232>3 living copies of the MinisterWasn't that 3 living copies of the orginal Anonimo? MInister of Propaganda, his rival, and one unnamed politican
>>739636232>im like 90% sure he says there are 3 living copies of the MinisterIIRC he was talking about the first generation of copies. Only three succesful ones when Anonimo kicked the bucket.
I assume a future patch will add "max stat from clothes" button
>>739635267You need to have listened to the favor, where he talked about the Ginkyu Tree (the yellow tree) and Shadowplay will connect the dots. The easier way to learn is by exchanging Ultra Violet and she mentions that it's the PM and cold read will say that V isn't lying.
>>739637048>You need to have listened to the favor, where he talked about the Ginkyu Tree (the yellow tree) and Shadowplay will connect the dotsI did. I guess I either didn't click a line that led me to that or my Shadowplay must not have been buffed at that point.>The easier way to learn is by exchanging Ultra Violet and she mentions that it's the PM and cold read will say that V isn't lying.I didn't get the cold read but I should have believed V there. I just thought it was a neat reveal that Dante was a body double of the minister, not meant for me to take literally.In all sincerity, the game outsmarting me on this just makes me appreciate it more.
>Negative reviews on steam crying about the psyche systemCasuals
>>739634897>The lose one point to gain one point switcharooI mean if you know exactly what you're doing.
lmao, communists dumb and unable to grasp the most basic of concepts
>>739629541On the other hand, it's the worst situation for anyone who wants another Kurvitz game. We're now in a Ken Levine situation where he's just jerking off for a decade and whatever he's releasing next will be the Bioshock Infinite of Discoclones because no one sane reeled him in into making a good game.
>>739638218I wouldn't be surprised if Red Info's game turns out to be the least like Disco of the 5. Might just straight up be a tactical RPG or something like that.But now that you bring the Levine comparison up, I thought he was also gonna be doing something different after being done with Infinite and Judas just looks like Bioshock 3.
This game has some funny "professional" reviews. Every score in the 70 - 60 range is basically rooted in ZA/UM drama. If you get swept up in that kind of drama in the first place, you're likely too dumb to enjoy either DE or ZP in the first place.
The skills and where and where they work is very badly thought out.I went with an INT build, and it feels like complete crap, why is SENSORS the one skill that you use for checking the legitimacy of documents and at other times it works like electrochemistry?There is zero cohesion with which skills are used where, and it's really making me feel like dropping the game.
>>739638478>Disco Elysium is about people like Harry or the Deserter hiding behind politics and addiction to not have to confront the truth>reviews hide behind politics and addiction (to drama) to not have to confront the truth (that the villain of the story managed to make a fine game)I love it when truth is stranger than fiction.
>>739638735And you can be sure most reviewers will completely miss the irony.Of course, they love lecturing people about "media literacy" on bluesky.
