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Why do statements like this make the western man cry and shit themselves?
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The UFO ending is and always will be the main canon ending.
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>>739546778
Never kill yourselves.
We must be hopeful and jolly
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>>739546863
This is what I mean. The western man is incapable of putting meaning above canon.
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>>739546778
>retarded artist thinks his opinion matters
In Water is the only canon.
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its a language thing i think. they also have a lot of trouble with the term "true end"
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>>739546990
Fine the UFO ending is the only continuity ending. Yea happy?
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So how does Forskin activism come in to play in SH?
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>>739547035
>we put a dozen endings in the game but only one matters
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>>739547162
no, you're a retarded piece of shit like Eddie
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>>739547205
jewish subversion
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>>739547043
I think it's just westerners that struggle with the concept that not every work needs to have some strict timeline of events.
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No one in this thread has played the originals it seems.
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>>739546972
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>>739546778
once you release your slop to the public you need to shut the fuck up about it and stop dropping these 'follow up beads' to tell people about what is actually happen in the game
>but we need to clarify it to make everything clear
Then make a big damn statement inside the game itself saying 'ALL ENDINGS ARE CANON' after like credits title or something instead of doing it on xitter post years after that game has been released to the public.
This guy, bayonetta maker, that homo who made fallout 1, and avelone or sawyer or whoever the guy behind fallout nv are the biggest lousy devniggers on xitter who cant shut the fuck up about their past, their 'glory', and their one hit wonder that have been released for over a decade ago. Fucking boomers I swear to god
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>>739546778
I don't like this guy, just seems like a prick.
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>>739549017
On one hand, he is one of the best artists out there, but on the other hand...

He might be an arrogant egotistical asshole.
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Are people bothered by the Leave ending or something? I like it, it's very hopeful and bittersweet at the same time. To me, the combination of James understanding what he's done and continuing to live through the pain is excellent. Mary's final letter read also confirms that she wants James to keep living.
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>>739548959
You don't need to include a fucking disclaimer for retarded Americans just because they have a habit of misunderstanding things.

Correcting them on twitter is perfectly appropriate behavior, and way more polite than what I would do if I ever were to end up commenting on my own work.

Spoon-feeding retarded consumers is the worst thing you can do to your art. Fuck that shit.
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Even in a medium all about agency, players will do anything to give it up and fit in
Let go of canon, you'll be happier
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sure he's a bit of a retard but i don't exactly pity the loud retarded kids who desperately want to act as authorities to these kinds of works being slapped down a bit
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>>739549289
I need to know the canon seed of Minecraft. If I can't find it I can never enjoy the real game.
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>>739547345
wikifags
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>>739546778
Because its a retarded take.
Every story, that goes beyond just a one shot needs a canon if you want to keep it coherent. Even if other stories are merely set in the same universe and don't continue the plot. The moment you start with "everything is canon" retardation, you are inviting inconsistencies and plotholes everywhere. And that just leads to shitty story writing.

So I guess technically, you can have everything be canon, but only if you don't mind it that your work ends up being a garbage heap of random shit thrown together.
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>>739549480
Something something america something west something americans something else america oh did I mention america? Americans or something only like that
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>>739549480
No it doesn't need a coherent canon. If that's the case then having branching storylines would inherently be bad.

When you get tangled in the keeping it all canon bullshit you get shit like the western comics that eventually end up fucking throwing everything in the trash because it isn't sustainable. The only reason to have a overarching canon is because you're working towards a bigger resolution. If you do it for any other reason you're just cooking slop.

There's nothing wrong with releasing a game that is based on one ending and another that is based on some other ending. Keeping everything lockstep in your universe for the sake of coherency is a waste of time.

Japan at least understands that you can make something like Dragon Ball GT and Super and not give a damn if the stories conflict.
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Canonfags are a blight
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>>739546972
i agree. even when i am a bit depressed, i cheer myself up remembering all of the sour as fuck redditors and actual trannies who look like disgusting freaks and by just existing, i make these people rage due to my beliefs and i am out of my funk in only a day
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>>739549770
This. Enjoy the ending you get and put the controller down, happy it happened.
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>>739549718
this describes every thread during eastie hours lol
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>>739548959
>statement inside the game itself
There is. The fact you can play a game and see the ending IS the statement, you troglodyte. I literally pick up my controller, do a thing, hear the characters say this happened and "the ending-ening". How can you state that it's an ending more than this? Aside from how asinine the notion is. You go there and see it.
>>739549480
>Every story
It's a game, not a story.
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>>739549718
this shit starts happening around 11pm EST every fucking night
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>>739546778
Westerners are afraid to think for themselves and accept there're no true answers to everything
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>>739549132
I didn't get a NTR ending where James is sitting on the couch watching Pyramid head have a threesome with Mary and Maria on the TV. Fuck this game.
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>>739546972
>demake
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>>739546778
Only way endings become canon is if theres sequels, thats why Sh1 ending is Good or Good+ because otherwise SH3 story wouldn't happen at all.

Only hints we get what happens to James after the fact is in Silent Hill 4 where Henry comments his picture of Toluca Lake that James father mentioned his son and daughter-in-law went missing years ago on a trip to Silent Hill. So either James cut all contact to his family and friends to avoid police, or In Water/Ritual endings are the canon ones.
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>>739549480
>Every story, that goes beyond just a one shot needs a canon if you want to keep it coherent
It's a good thing SH2 is practically standalone then. Only game that's a direct sequel to another is 3 following 1.
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>>739550104
>Jeet cant stop thinking about cuck shit
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>>739550023
that's euro time? it's midnight at japan at that time
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>>739547345
Western mythos operated on "dubious canon" logic since a long time ago. No one knew how Ulysses died, there were 3 or 4 different mythos all considered valid. Old western cartoons had episodic followups which made no sense. Billy and Mandy, Dexter 's lab for example. It's only with the modern fixation on cinematic universes, wikis, timelines and overall, just people escapism efforts to glorify a work of fiction into a parallel universe of its own that this mental illness has spread.
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>>739549132
I’ve always preferred the Leave ending because it gives the victims of Silent Hill such a complete and fitting arc. Eddie resists and gets killed, Angela gives in to despair and takes her own life, and James finally overcomes his guilt to find a new purpose. It also creates a beautiful little bookend with Laura.
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>>739549860
Yeah I also cheer up remembering I'll always live rent free in the chuddies' brains.
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>>739550281
9 hours earlier - which would be noon japan time
8am india time
midnight aussie time
10pm-midnight south america/mexico brown country time
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>>739550343
Yeah but it begs the question what happens to Laura, since James "disappears" according to his father in the 4th game. Only reason James would cut off contact with his father is so he wouldn't have to explain why Mary didn't return from their "2nd Silent Hill trip.". So James is either hiding from law enforcement or the endings where he doesn't leave Silent Hill alive are canon.

>"I got this photo from Sunderland, the superintendent. I heard his son and daughter-in-law disappeared in Silent Hill a few years back..."
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>>739550484
>9 hours earlier - which would be noon japan time
Early morning in eastern Europe and late night in the US. So its either pajeets or burgers doing the anti-US shitposting.
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>>739550869
dont discount the BRs
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>>739550121
>mad chud
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>>739550869
What's so anti US about discussing the concept of canon?
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>>739551063
I don’t know about euros but what he’s saying is a lot of Americans struggle to engage with fiction on any level deeper than the surface level plot and consequently are obsessed with “what really happened”. I’m US btw this is just the truth
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>>739546972
After everything that happens in the game, a "happy" ending is the stupidest thing
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>>739551329
>Ito's misery purely self inflicted by learning english and interacting with the raped global audience.
Ironic, should've known better.
Been like kamiya called every troon and faggot a cockroach and blocking them.
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>>739548959
I see Nasu is still the king.
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>>739546778
stop posting screenshots from other websites because you are afraid of confrontation and don’t want to say something to that person yourself
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>>739551812
You're a faggot.
You're a nigger.
You're a retard.
You're a cuck.
You're a fart face.
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>>739550048
this
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>>739546778
As you could already see in E33 threads, people with comically low IQ cannot accept being wrong or even not being directly told that they are right.
You can put big red letters on the screen that say "CHOOSE YOUR ENDING - BOTH ENDINGS ARE BAD" and they will spend months trying to prove that the ending they chose is the good one.
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>>739546778
Sh4 implies James never came back.
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>>739551661
To be fair, the rules exist, but the real game is figuring out how to break them.
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I hate nothing more than manchildren like nubzombie going on and on about the CANON and the TRUE INTENTION of the devs. it's literally a midwit, low IQ notion. I can't stand it. nobody in this world should take anything ito says seriously after he lied about pyramid head not being sexually violent. nobody.
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>>739553596
In general I truly despise the concepts of golden endings. You can't have an interesting story because a large subset of people is convinced that 1 there must be a good ending and 2 It must be the canon one. To be fair this seems to be more of a thing pushed by asian audiences than americans, but still, I'd like to play my fucking games without a sequel telling me I played the previous one wrong and hence I have no idea what events they are referencing.
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>>739547345
>>739550284
Canon only kind of matters if you're doing a continuation of a story, and only then for context.
People get too hung up on shit like "WHICH IS THE REAL CANON CONTINUATION OF DRAGON BALL IS IT SUPER ANIME OR SUPER MANGA OR DAIMA OR GT" without realizing that each is canon to itself and also Dragon Ball isn't a real thing that happened nor is it a religious text where canon shapes a core belief system and ethics system so who cares.
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>>739546778
eternal reminder and thread theme in one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw
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>>739546972
James be going home so he can eat that cheese pizza.
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>>739553980
>from fat to the whale bloated beyond humanty
>eddie eats icecream by scooping it with his hands
why are polacks so repulsive?
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>>739553769
he had a good reason to lie about it
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>>739553980
Eddie should have gotten a secret boss fight in the remake. They already made the fucking spider thing.
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>>739554045
>has no integrity
>BUT HE HAS LE REASONS
shut up, nubzombie, you fatfuck
your wife is ugly af
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>>739554169
So? Still a better source than your rotten asshole.
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>>739554265
you are pathetic nub. still doing SH streams, never growing up, getting some fat fan wife who can't shut the fuck up while you are streaming. lol
I bet she cucks you too lol
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>>739553817
>Title 1
>good & bad ending

>Title 2
>assumes good ending is canon

>Title 3
>assumes bad ending in Title 1 is canon
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>>739553817
People seem to think that TLoU2 flopped because "le woke" or "le moviegame", but millions of normals would gobble it up completely, if only they didn't kill the character they liked and there was a good ending. This is literally the only reason why it wasn't a success.
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>>739554421
You're a niggerass shitfaggot and I have no idea what schizo garbage you're talking about.
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>>739553676
maybe he got lost in the sauce
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>>739554454
Drakengard 2 follows Drakengard 1's ending A, Nier follows Drakengard 1's ending E, Automata follows Nier 1's ending D, and Drakengard 3's ending D (you could argue B as well) leads to Drakengard 1.
Always thought that was cool and whenever they run out of ideas for the Nier branch they can just pick another Drakengard 1 ending, or even D2, and start from there.
Souls games also have complimentary endings, maybe not in establishing continuity going forward, but each ending paints part of the picture and with information from all of them you'll come to properly understand the story, instead of just being different conclusions and you choose which one you like more as the final page of the story.
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>>739556073
shup up, niggerfaggot. your game is not that deep
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>>739556854
It's deeper than your rectal cavity you pea brained shartmonger.
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>>739554454
>Title 4
>reveals a hidden ending in Title 1
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Zoomer social media is autistic and literal minded to an unimaginable degree. You can see it from that shit where they take up half of reddit's traffic with those Superman vs Goku boards
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>>739554454
>>739559401
>Title (Spinoff)
>Is a prequel to both Title and Title: Gaiden depending on the different ending
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>>739557819
subhuman low IQ mongrel, kys
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>>739546972
James does not get a happy ending. He’s dead.
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>>739560503
>Goes through hell to survive
>Finally kills himself when it's over
It just makes no sense at all to me.
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>>739547230
Make a sequel beginning where all the 'canon' endings left off
Go on
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>>739546778
There's a Western obsession with tracking which events are actually part of the story and which events involve the same characters and shit but are sort of dead ends. Maybe that's from finding Biblical canon, or maybe it's from cartoons where Winnie the Pooh and Bugs Bunny meet to say drugs are bad.
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>>739547345
I think it's that and most games now having a golden/true ending really locks in that multiple endings don't matter and only one is "important"
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I'm surprised the Legend of Zelda single universe theory hasn't been posted yet. Probably the best example of people trying to smash together shit that does not belong together
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>>739546778
They just want to be part of the event and the louder you are the higher chance someone might remember you were there
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I'm so far past the point of caring about canon.
Either your IP dies or it lives long enough for anything good to get retconned.
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>>739560601
>to survive
to find mary
tourist
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>>739546778
I mean i always thought that was the case. But Leave is my favorite of the bunch and, as much as I hate the "X changed my life" retard posts, it did help me cope some with my father dying of cancer a week or two before I played it since it covered a lot of feelings I had but couldn't express
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>>739546972
But in the remake leave ending, James doesn’t actually leave but walks literally back into the fog.
I hate how the demake retcons the story…
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When it comes to video games the cannon is written retrospectively. That is, games are made with absolutely no consideration for the game after them. OoT exists in a timeline without MM. It can't, the very concept didn't even exist until after the game was complete. WW is not a part of OoTs cannon. Yes, OoT and MM preceed WW but only because it is stated in game. The game it self does absolutely nothing to tie the previous games in a way that is obvious through the story but that's a completely different argument. But the point is westerners love cannon for some reason even though what is considered cannon is actually made up bullshit everything for wiki autists.
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>>739560626
morrowind
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>>739561276
Maybe he meant survive his guilt or something
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>>739562905
he would still be wrong
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>>739563834
he survived the monsters and got to eat cheese pizza
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>>739546778
Did the game ever prove that Eddie was in the wrong for shooting the dog?
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>>739561815
It's true that Majora's Mask didn't exist when Ocarina of Time was being written. The Empire Strikes Back didn't exist when the original Star Wars was being written. The Godfather Part 2 didn't exist when the script for the original Godfather was being written. Being a sequel or prequel or whatever the fuck doesn't automatically mean nothing in the original matters. Zelda is a case where most games don't connect very closely to others and you can start anywhere. FF7 Rebirth assumes you've played the previous and is written as basically another set of chapters for Remake. It doesn't matter that the sequel was made after the original, it matters whether the sequel is written assuming everyone in the audience knows the original.
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Why hasn't anyone compiled all the worst Silent Hill theories? Where's all the cringekino I crave so much?
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>>739561815
>if you don't start with the conclusion your story is cringe
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>>739546778
>Why do statements like this make the western man cry and shit themselves?
When a game has miltiple endings and none are called "true ending" by the devs, retards start arguing about whicj ending is best not because they truly like it but because they want to be right and everyone else wrong. A pathetic attempt at superiority, so when someone breakd that ilussion by telling them "everything is canon, no one is right or wrong" they get mad
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>>739549480

There are no direct sequels to Silent Hill 2.
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>>739554454
I recognize that smiling cat picture…
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>>739568871
many gay people do
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>>739569140
Fuck you
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>>739546778
>>739560626
>all endings are canon: the game
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>>739569256
mystery pigger
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>>739569825
How is that smiling cat pic not avatarfagging by your logic? Fucking hypocrite piece of shit. I told you I will never Klonoapost again and I meant it. If you saw someone pretending to be me, it’s an imposter.
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>>739546778
You're not a man if you post on twitter.
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>>739569352
there was never a sequel to this
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>>739570024
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>>739570106
read the filename
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>>739546863
>The UFO ending is and always will be the main canon ending.
Yes.
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>>739546778
>canon is whatever you want it to be tehehe
Yeah that makes no sense because some endings of SH1 would make SH3 impossible
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>>739570251
Bitch if Team Silent (let's pretend they still exist for the sake of this hypothesis) fucking went with one of the bad endings and made a sequel based on that. Would that ending still be completely non-canon to you? What if they continued with more sequels based on that timeline. Would it still be non-canon? If the those devs all disagreed about what is canon and not with two lead writers having the opposing views on it. What then? Would the janitor get to be a tie breaker and decide which timeline is canon?
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>>739570175
Fuck you
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>>739546778
Some endings are more canon than others.
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>>739570853
And don't forget the fact that the OG creator left after the first game and said years later he said that he considers the good+ ending the true ending while the dude who made SH3 said it followed the normal good ending..
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>>739546972
I changed computers and I need to find the WebM of him shaking his head. Anyone willing to help a fellow anon out?
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>>739571078
probably the ones you dislike the most
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>>739547230
Yeah if you're making a sequal these are the sort of things you have to work out dude. If you're not confirming, or denying any of them you need to think it through to avoid anything that would.
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>>739571971
>>739553869
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>>739560626
bro, your warp in the west?
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>>739554454
Somewhat related, but I'm reminded about how interviews about inFamous 2 said that the devs were genuinely surprised that most players of inFamous 1 got the Good ending instead of the Evil ending. This threw their plans out of whack because they'd already planned for inFamous 2 to follow the Evil ending. So they had to rewrite inFamous 2.
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>>739546778
I decide what is canon purely on selfish terms. If it's kino, it's canon.
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>>739551379
>search for wife
>meet fake wife
>meet little girl who was friend of wife
>meet weirdos along the way
>weirdos unability to deal with their sins lead to their doom
>discover your own sins
>realise fake wife does not replace real wife
>successfully accept your sins
>adopt little girl as a sign of redemption

I see nothing stupid with it.
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>>739560626
>>739571971
Only a direct sequel. It's not like the Silent Hill games follow up on the previous protagonists.
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>>739575735
>bro, when you kill your wife you just have to learn to accept yourself
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>>739546863
the Loch Ness ending is the real one



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