what went so wrong?
>>739547358It got fucked by the suits.We know, at the very least, that they had made a more traditional Homeworld-style story that got scrapped for the psychic space lesbians story we actually got.
Women.
>>739547358uppity breeding units wanted validation for 'creating the game' and management was too addicted to blackrock dei money to say no
>>739547358woke
>>739547358It hurtsThey even finally made big hulks like they wanted for HW2But the demo was enough to know (((someone))) is fucking with the development
>>739547950why are they so ugly damn
>>739547358i still seethe and foam at the mouth at the mere mention of Homeworld 3. This has to be the single most ruined and destroyed gaming franchise in history, not even Fallout or God of War fell so low. >the ships couldnt even fly properly in 3D space>they were programmed to move on a 2D plane>they only fired when stopped, and aimed at the enemy>when the enemy ship moved, my ships stopped shooting, and started manouvering to get into positioni.... i just cant. >replay homeworld 1>the ships fucking drift, spin, and use momentum, it actually look like a SPACE BATTLEi just fucking cant with modern gaming anymore.
>>739548101the big hulks were pure AIDS and should never be more than a background jpeg.
>>739548154
>>739548242it's just unappealing and the faces look wrong
>>739548172This. I've seen classic Final Fantasy go from 10/10 to the modern games being 3/10 but I've never seen a fall quite as deep as Homeworld.
>>739547979That hurt the story and character design, the gameplay was hurt by general incompetence.
It's probably good, I own it but god knows I'll never play it.
Unironically - women and suits. Latter produced absolute clusterfuck of development process by constantly mending with it and former provided absolutely abysmal narration by changing story about nation as a whole into another "ITS ALL ABOUT ME" bullshit story with Mary Sue protagonist and sociopathic Queen that is supposed to be "tragic character" nobody understands.
>>739547950wtfwhyWho wrote this? Who directed these cinematics?
>>739548172>not even Fallout or God of War fell so low.Yet.>i just fucking cant with modern gaming anymore.The trend was already there with HW2 switching from the first game's simulation of projectiles moving and being avoidable by unexpected dodging to the retarded Star Craft tier system of just representing some already resolved internal equation graphically for a lot of weapon systems.
>>739548572It's completely awful from gameplay perspective as >>739548172 points out. You can't even have large scale battles anymore.
>>739548172I remember building like 20 ion cannon frigates. >i have never seen them fire even ONE in the whole game>they just kept moving around, trying to aimholy fucking shit.
>>739548553true, but it being woke usually makes those parts worse too by competent people leaving the studio
>>739548764i never seen them fire even ONCE**sorry, posting on a phone.
I don't understand how the same studio makes kino like Deserts of Kharak then absolutely shits the bed with HW3
>>739547358>hire retarded feminist niggerworshipper to write your sci fi plot>get retarded feminist niggerworship
>>739548172>>they were programmed to move on a 2D planeSAY IT WITH ME, LADS!UNREALENGINE5!>NOBODY CAN ACTUALLY PROGRAM A GAME IN UE5>ALL THEY CAN DO IT DRAW MODELS AND THATS IT
>>739548804Deserts of Kharak took place on a 2D plane. It makes perfect sense that they couldn't migrate to 3D.
>>739548858But Deserts at least worked with a 2D plane. Homeworld 3 is effectively a 2D plane with some added visuals and it breaks everything.
>>739547358Most egregious and immersion-breaking use of NLIPS.
>>739548764The ship AI will attempt to stay at the maximum range possible to fire, rather than firing. So rather than shooting, they will constantly try to position to be at the best range before firing....leading to them rarely firing. If you shoot at immobile targets, they do actually decent damage.
I recall someone posting once image of lead designer or screenwriter that looked exactly the same as main character but cannot find it anywhere.
>>739548857>>739548858>>739548938i remember playing the beta, a month before release. >tutorial>build an interceptor squadron>and destroy the target dronesok sure sounds easy. >the interceptors take 10 MINUTES (TEN MINUTES) to destroy 4 stationary target drones>they just couldnt fucking hit them>they kept moving around the target dronesit shouldnt even be released at all in this state.
>>739547950https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7MNGtdV0A
>>739548804Worst part was how Deserts still had female MC, sort of, plus some named other characters. And yet it still managed to capture the atmosphere and sense of scale.But I guess it also have something with how said female MC was competent and doing her job instead of demanding headpats and being told how she must "believe in herself more".
>>739548225Nothing was properly implemented in HW3 so I won't judge anything trough that lens
>>739548804>>739549089even if i pretended the campaign doesnt exist, its still completely unplayable in any other game mode. >skirmish doesnt even exist>retarded war games, where you control a few squads and level them upwhat the fuck were they thinking.
>>739549161The idea of massive super structures and what not to add potentially useful terrain in a 3D space environment is an interesting idea...it's just that TTK is so low in the game and you can lose ships surprisingly fast (along with them generally being incredibly stupid) means you don't really need to use them. Just death ball it and the AI won't have a response to you, but your own fleet will have a response of getting into pileups. In space, where there's LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THEM TO MOVE TO. I thought Starcraft 1's AI was bad when it came to ramps and ledges, this takes the cake.
>>739549161>>739549280the main appeal of homeworld was that its in empty space and you have to use 3D tactics and navigation to win, adding "cover" and "routes" is defeating the entire concept of a game set in space. Homeworld 3 was a disaster from concept, to release.
>>739547950it's like one of those retarded canadian fetish cartoons, except it is a bideo bame
>>739549378Homeworld 2 had both asteroid fields and those nebulas that hid your ships from sensors, and both could be used in addition to the 3D map. HW3 is just so shit that what few new ideas it did add are so poorly implemented that it would've been better had they just polished the basics...and they didn't. They didn't even bring back squadrons and hardpoints. It's less mechanically deep than the games that came before it. Gearbox managed to regress a game series, how does that even happen?
>>739547950PS2 cinematics looked better, what is this?
>>739549559>They didn't even bring back squadrons and hardpoints.they also forgot about hyperspace. >it took them 2 months after release to add hyperspace in skirmish and multiplayerGood God.
>>739547717Bingo.
>>739547358Midway through development Randy parachuted in one of his cunt wife Kristy Junio's friends to be lead writer, senior director of narrative properties at gaybox Lin Joyce. She gutted the game.Kristy is credited for story on several games and I figure she's some sort of professional retard who knows other professional retards like Lin, who's credited for borderlands writing.Which explains why we ended up with a quirk chungus quipcape shitfeast of a game.I recall from discussion at release that there are cries for help from the devs hidden in the game but I forget exactly what they were.
>>739547358"Everything." -Gul'dan
>>739550008Retards getting jobs through nepotistic means shouldn't be surprising, but normally you could at least have a few diamonds in the rough that get in as well with that system. Now it's just shit, all the way down.
>>739547950"I may vomit." -Snape
>>739548242"Gheyyyyyyy.." -me
>>739548242>Space Hitler kills possibly trillions across the galaxy>Calls them inferior vermin>Still gets to go to space heaven with grandmaWho even thought this was a good idea?
>>739547473I can remember midway through development they sent a 1-5 point questionnaire to all backers, and most of it was asking if they wanted a 'story based around Karan S'jet'. I can tell now that some suit was trying to push their retarded vision and was using the questionnaire as a motte and bailey to show that 'this is what the fans want'!
>>739547358A lot of things
>>739550008>>739550240the story is the least of HW3 problems. even it had the single most incredible well written story in gaming history, it would still be a 1/10 game. why?>because it doesnt fucking work>ships cant fly and move around>ships cant shootthen whats the point?
>>739549089They obviously changed writing teams. I think the credits have like 6 different teams credited.
>>739547950Pure kinography
>all ships look the samecreative bankruptcy.
>>739548646Women who are addicted to glue sniffing with server head trauma is the only explanation
>>739550472Well of course, why even ask, its the brainded looking nose ringed danger hair. And then (they) will call pattern recognition ""sexist""
>>739547950I come to these threads for this webm.
>>739550008When the woman got put in charge one of the original homeworld story writers got demoted to writing the manual.He added this quote into it: "Just Imogen is fine. My Project Manager said i need to put a Human face on things, so here i am".
>>739550524Yeah sure the retarded game design as well like the random apm tax "shoot harderer!" button on strike craft was also stupid, but that stuff can be fixed.The attempt to make it some sort of GAAS with the silly roguelite multiplayer was likely c suitery.But you can't fix the story, it has art assets that need to be rerecorded and rerendered, the campaign missions need to be remade.Once it ships with the amazing expanding genocidal women plot, the genie is out of the bottle.Besides which, Homeworld isn't some tactical wizard game that demands that you master the mechanics. You salvage everything and A move your giant fleet like it's red alert and you have a bunch of tanks.What distinguished it was it told a heroes journey story through the impersonal fleet chatter of your ships. It was a story without characters.Homeworld 3 has no coherent story, just awful fucking characters. It's clearly been handed off to a complete quipcape enthralled hack who thinks that stories are about characters, which has become a trend.
ok, so thats how it looks like:Cataclysm>1>2>>>>>>>>>>>>3>SET>US>LOOOOOOOOOOOSE>*tortured agonising screaming of the entire crew in the background*
>>739551471fucking chills man
>>73955147125 years later this still gives me fucking goosebumps.
>>739547358They had a completely different story in the beginning but something happened and they hired a new writing director and whoever it was rewrote the entire story roughly a year or so before launch
>>739551585>>739551647>guys thats stupid, you cant make a horror RTS with spaceships>oh yeah? hold my fucking beer
With how bad the union narrative was for Hardspace Shipbreaker, there was no way that HW3 wasn't gonna be pozzed to shit.
>>739549051kek
Yeah I blocked Homeworld 3 from existance. Even their planet game was mid. I consider Stellaris to be the evolution of it now that's how much copium I am inhaling.
>>739551471Where do you fit the mobile game and the VR game?
>>739552094Era One is the true successor of homeworld
>>739552483VR controls are the cannon way to guide the fleet
>>739552630yoink. Thanks for the rec although it does feel like with a tonne of space games about to be released this year along with RTS titles we might get lucky on one or two of them.
>>739551471it's so damn hot outside that the chill was very welcomethank you
>>739551471I find this completely agreeable. Cataclysm is the only Homeworld game I remember almost completely even over a decade after playing it. >>739551949That was funny, I bought Hardspace Shipbreaker before there was any story and it was good - just needed more shit for you to tear down for fun... instead they spent all their time and resources adding a story that makes the game worse to play lmao while only adding modest variety of shit for you to tear down. What a shitshow.
>>739551471the sound design and voice acting were just 10/10. >the kuun-lan commander seething through his fucking teeth at the bentusi who just destroyed my entire fleet because they're scared of the beast spreading further
>>739548646A blue hair wrote this. That's all you need to know.
The only cool thing about HW3 is ship design. I like such style.
usually rot like this can be traced to a clique or single retard in power somewhere in managementa studio can have plenty of talent, but it doesn't matter if woke fascists have a stranglehold on the company
>>739552483>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QZjARnuJK0Jesus fuck, those dumbed-down graphics and oversaturated highlighting. Not even comparable to that shitty ender's game film.
>play demo>every map has to have a megastructure background which makes your units look like toys>controls are awful>gameplay is awful It is an rts game by people who probably never played rts games.
>>739553509the devs wrote in their blog that they were absolutely shocked and surprised when people demanded open-space maps without the retarded structures everywhere. >they made 1 empty space map and abandoned the whole damn game
>>739553482>unbalded KARENWTF IS THIS FANFICTION GARBAGE
>>739551471I would put Cataclysm lower than 2 purely because of the supply pod bullshit, apm special ability bullshit, and unit design philosophy all being taken from Starcraft rather than continuing on with Homeworld's strengths. I want to build ion frigates to handle big ships and assault frigates to handle fighters, not advanced ion frigates that spin around like a discoball and kill fucking everything.
>>739554539>I would put Cataclysm lower than 2no
>>739553682her giving up her humanity to see to the future of her peoples is too much of a concept for the target audience to understand (the female audience)
>>739554539No, ramming frigates and GATTAI acolytes are fucking ludo.
>>739547950>>739548242this shit is so fucking funny man it takes my breath away
>>739550424>thinking a woman could understand accountability
>>739547950>>739548242What does this have to do with spaceships blowing each other up?
I fucking love Vaygr ships
>>739555446What a twist!
>>739547358They hired liberals to write the story.
You know youre in trouble when even the nicest and most tame reviewer on youtube shits on your game.
>>739548242 KARL S'JET
>>739548553wokeism implies bad gameplay
>>739553565Unreal. Fuck these retards.
>>739550472somebody post game dev crying for help "easter egg" in manual
>>739547358It was an ip smash and grab funded with dei money. Cash in on nostalgia, pay nothing to make it. Like a slum landlord, but for vdya. Honestly the average millenial gamer is sohotfor memberberries they will pre order anything and actively defend getting ripped off to avoid being humble, so i dont even blame suits.
>>739553279Bentusi were fucking retarded. Instead using their and our combined fleet to fuck the beast to the next sunday, they blasted our ships, then fucking ran away to pocket universe.
>>739557435its a games retard
>>739557435Fair.Beast reverse engineering their tech would be worse than them getting the Methuselah's Children inertialess superdrive.
>>739547950this is way too esoteric for /v/
>>739547950Written and directed by a woman who never even heard of Homeworld before being put in charge of the project.
>>739557546thats what all dei feminist said
>>739548242What is this ugly lesbian fanfic.
>>739557249>so i don't blame predatorshuh
>>739557249>It was an ip smash and grab funded with dei money. You wish I also do but no, a good chunk of the leads were also leads on Homeworld, the writing of the overall plot was already coming apart at the seams in Homeworld 2 with sudden senseless retcons, story-wise, Homeworld 3 is an expected sequel given Homeworld 2.
>>739557435the Bentusi were fanatically TERRIFIED of the Beast, the only thing they could think off was OH FUCK RUN AWAY!Bentusi ships were extremely prone to infection, it was going through them like butter.
>>739558320Homeworld 2 ended in such a way that doing a follow up to it would require retcons. It ends with the Higarans bringing up total galactic peace, fulfilling the prophecy as the Sajuk'kaar, the end, story over. I think they tried to expand on the scale because the fights would be noticeably larger than what Homeworld 1 ever had, so they made a story to accommodate that.
>>739547358Well, given that the goal is to contaminate an IP with a predominantly male and heterosexual fanbase... well, nothing went wrong. The goal was to contaminate and denigrate, everything else is irrelevant. Was it commercially successful? "Oh, great, what other IP can we contaminate?" Was it a commercial failure? "Oh, great, what other IP can we contaminate?" It's what they do.
>>739557901That was a tremendously stupid way to reword it because predators are literally acting on instinct to assure their own survival. It's also stupid because people who make themselves victims of exploitation deserve to b exploited.
>>739558442homeworld 2's story does go pretty off the fucking rails into chosen one prophecy bullshit. you spend a huge chunk of the game doing what feels like an undeservedly elevated side quest while your people are getting fucking bombarded into dust
>>739551471its a crime that Cataclysm didnt get a remaster, its easily the best out of them all.
>THIS IS THE...WRRGH...CAAL-SHTOo>WE HAVE ARRIiiiIVED WITH RrrRRREINFORCEMENTS...FRrrROM HIIGARA>COME TO USss.THE COME. GOOood.
>>739558861i can still hear this dialogue in my head, after 25 years. they just dont make em like this anymore.
>>739558673>it's instinct and natural to rape to ensure survival>victims deserve their raping because they make themselves victimizableuhuh
>>739558559I was told all the gay shit in bg3 was only if you wanted gay shit tho?
>>739559263its like saying a gay parade is no longer gay if you pretend its not there.
>>739559263No.The wizard tries to put his bepis in if you say nice magic bro.
>>739550472>PhD in Narrative System Design
>>739559403You can make a PhD in just about anything these days. Hell, there might genuinely be someone out there with an underwater basket weaving doctorate.
>>739559375>wizard is awkward and poorly-socialized>he misreads friendly cues as romantic oneswho among us has not done this? it's ludo.
>>739559537So he's an awkward child, got it.
>>739559662But all your companions will do this, which makes it really awkward as it's like all your party members are there only because they want to fuck you.
i played deserts of kharak and absolutely loved itshould i play 1,2 and cataclysm?been kinda meaning to but my backlog is fucked
>>739556607>game dev crying for help "easter egg"Oh god. I need to see this
>>739560028>should i play 1,2 and cataclysm?yes
>>739559263Let's just say that one of later patches "fixed a bug" where your party, while trying to rest, would be surrounded by naked men. Sven (or how is he called) was giggling like a retarded teen about that, calling it a bug. I bet it was his own idea.
I just wanted Imperial Taiidan campaign man.>There's this cosmic horror that eats everyone it meets?>Let's team-up with it to btfo Hiigarans lolRetardmaxxing loonies
>>739560218>Emperor dead>Empire divided>Losing control by the minute>Bunch of sand dwelling savages responsible for all of itYeah, it's retarded to help the all-consuming space AIDS, but at that point the Taidani were already losing everything. It's not like it could get any worse for them.
>>739559515I have a PHD in Crunchwrap assembly.
>>739560207Is the game like a coming out of the closet moment for that guy?
>>739550924>When the woman got put in charge one of the original homeworld story writers got demoted to writing the manual.This is the most surreal shit. Although, HW3 is written NOTHING like previous Homeworlds so I'm not sure what a difference he would've even made. It's the single game that comes to mind that makes you sympathize with an entire people instead of typical individuals approach.
>>739560434I'm afraid he was always been like that.
>>739560218>>739560319what even is the consensus on cataclysm? I hate how it got snubbed for the remastered collection, but at least you can easily play it now once again.
>>739547358U WANT FORMATION?!?FUCK U!
>>739560732It fucking rules because it's beowulf in space with spaceships, and whacky experimental units.
>>739560732Story is way better than it has any right to be, but a lot of the new units I didn't like as much even if they made sense thematically. Sure, a bunch of people recently dethawed and told all of their loved ones are likely dead deciding to be suicide bombers but in space makes sense, but I'm not wasting RUs on a bunch of expendable units. Same for the clan you play as being a bunch of miners means you don't really get a lot of actual military units and instead just have to upgun industrial and civilian ships unless you can steal some actual warships between missions. It makes each loss of your ships matter more than HW1, but man I would've just preferred to have some Ion frigates at the get go.
I really, really want to take control of this game project, rename it so its actually a spinoff and not Homeworld 3, delete the entire campaign, rework the entire thing, add a few more factions, and make it about an expedition fleet suddenly finding a megastructure the size of a star system with a bunch of cultures fighting inside, one of them being of hiigaran descent, then half the campaign is leaving with a bunch of those hiigarans so they come home.>By that point why not just make a whole new game?Because not doing this would leave the trace amount that Homeworld 3 existed and it is canon, so i'd rather just wipe it out the face of the earth and replace it with something better that people look at the mess below the carpet and agree it should stay the fuck in there.
>>739560883>>739560921I fucking forgot what competent writing looked like until I replayed Homeworld recently. We fell so hard.
>>739547473To be fair, what is a "traditional" homeworld story? The only good ones were 1 and cataclysm. There's more homeworld games with bad stories than good ones at this point.
>>739560732Its fantastic. Its probably my favorite Homeworld game>miners out trying to strike it rich>accidentally awaken a literal ancient evil>take responsibility and hunt it down>become one of the most badass clans among all the HiigaransAlso those interactions with the Bentusi were great. And the beast. To this day I love hearing WEEEE WILLL TAAAAKE YOUUUUUU
>>739560028deserts of kharak is fucking amazingi too played deserts first then jumped on 1 and 2 remastered and had so much fundo NOT bother with HW3 tho, just dont
>>739560732Best story but honestly a lot of the ships suck. Think of it like an inverse deserts of karack. Definitely worth playing and even the weird unit designs don't get in the way of it being totally playable.
>>739561164Less "responsibility" and more "we're on the bottom rung of clan politics, and this could skyrocket us to new heights" your own elders were willing to sacrifice your ass for a chance at new tech. When the Beast is unleashed, your ship more than your clan, is the only one with any semblance of experience with it first hand and survived and suddenly you become the subject matter expert. You're the Isaac Clarke of starships dealing with shit you are massively under-qualified to deal with.
>>739560732I prefer it as a sequel than Homeworld 2.
i will forever hate the person deciding not to include Cataclysm in the remastered collectioneternal unending hatred
>>739561559It would have been garbage if they managed it. I'm still pissed stuff like fuel isn't a thing in 1 remaster and because of that swarmers are a total bitch in the garden mission.Could you imagine cataclysm with half of its weird unit mechanics being stapled to 2s engine? It'd be a nightmare.
>>739561034You take a classic legend and then sprinkle scifi on it.Like you'd just take gilgamesh and enkidu>civil war, mothership taken out of mooring and about to be used to attack>bentusi appear and drop a duplicate mothership on you which says "NO">then it fucks off and you chase after it, then it swallows a mcguffin>it says IM GOOD NOWand now you have two motherships and need to go repeat all the bullshit trials of gilgamesh to prove your enkidu mothership is a bro, in the process you stop the civil war and thwart and embarrass hiigaran high command.>then the broship goes back to the bentusisomething like that.
>>739559403That clown has probably entertained more people than dangerhair, phd.
>>739547358>what went so wrong?The choice of producer, director, and lead writer.
Hot take: Deserts of Kharak was a pretty good RTS. Not a great Homeworld game but it was never meant to be.
>>739561559the source code was lost, it wasn't intentional to leave it out
>>739563652I don't think this is a hot take
>>739561204>deserts of kharak is fucking amazingI wouldn't say AMAZING. It was way better than anyone expected it to be, though.
>>739563935Oh. I thought people hated that game? May have read this wrong.
>>739559403I have not seen this picture in like 15 years. She had the whole set in this clown suit and makeup.
>>739563652the ghaalsien ships are infinitely more interesting and diverse than the incarnate.not to mention they're better written.
>>739547358How the fuck did they go from Homeworld DoK to this in 5 years? DoK was an amazing game.
>>739547473I can't believe the suits directed and animated >>739547950
>>739564785I sort of figured that was at least partly intentional, the Gaalsien look like they belong in a Homeworld game because they know and understand the truth of the setting while the northern kiith are strangers to the Homeworld setting.
>>739547950Someone should post this on rule34
>>739548172You can't get more raped than Wolfenstein.
>>739565045BBI was just straight up sabotaged, back in the original Fig crowdfunding thing it specifically mentioned that the game would have painterly-style cutscenes and IIRC pic related was used as a representative example of what they were going to look like. There is no other explanation that makes any sense at all, between DoK and the Fig pitch it's clear that BBI understood what Homeworld is supposed to look and feel like and that team would never have done something so spectacularly fucking stupid without outside intervention.
>>739559263Yes, of course. It's always optional if the game sells well.
>>739554539>apm special ability bullshitTelltale sign of a retardIf pressing ONE FUCKING BUTTON is too much for you it means you lack required IQ to enjoy big boy RTS
>>739550472fucking self-insert writers>borderlands 3>tiny tina's wonderland>new tales from the borderlandshow in the FUCK do you end up in charge of a homeworld sequel?
>>739547950What in the fuck is this temu dream logic voodoo graphics card tier tech demo shit?
>>739565862
>>739565486the reveal trailer also used the original art stylehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pacXW5eZb9w
>>739548172>>739548857The entire space rts and space genre can die in next generation because you need to know how to do that shit and teach others in your team. Jeets can't even into mirrors in 2026
>>739565887cronyism. biggest problem is you're dealing with people who don't give a shit about the games. homeworld 3 could've been a terrific sequel even with gameplay stumbles, but it's the absolutely scuffed narrative that sinks it. I suspect it's the same shit that would happen if someone attempted to revive the myth series, for example. writers today simply cannot write.
I wonder who was the genius who managed to convince that a third game to a rather liked game series should have a lot more focus to the characters with cutscenes where they are shown prominently, when the previous games the characters were mostly only heard and players imagination was left to fill in the rest. Cataclysm still is one of my favorite games just from the VA performance.
>>739550424Trillions of men and women who arnt her. Who cares?
>>739566365Same people who want DRAMA in media over actual narrative and story. Because simpletons relate to character drama more.
>>739566365>what are our strengths?Cut scenes>what are our weaknesses?GamesAnd so the die was cast.
>>739566629>what are our strengths?>Cut sceneslol
>>739566270I think it's more that writer's rooms end up saturated with the useless surplus progeny of c-suite rats.I wonder whose daughter pinkhair mcpowerful is that handed her the license to be so strong and independant.
>>739566270More like the "writers" they hire aren't being hired to write. I've found plenty of good modern writers but they neither have to or want to waste time whoring themselves out to micromanaging corpos.
>>739566523I mean sure, but what the fuck kind of a simpleton would have started to play Homeworld and become a fan? Surely they would have graduated from being a knucklescraping buffoon as result?
>>739566025I lol'ed
>>739566365>fleet command is a nigger and his face is on screen all the time nowyou don't get ESG points unless the nigger face is prominently on screen
>>739566365>Cataclysm still is one of my favorite games just from the VA performance.If I remember correctly, Cataclysm was just the poorfag devs recording most of the lines themselves because they didn't have the budget for anything fancier.
>>739569001They did a damn good job then. Granted it's been over a decade since I played the game, but maybe I should replay it at this point, maybe I am thinking too fondly of the game. I don't think we will be seeing more Homeworld anytime soon, if ever.
>>739551471>This is Kiith-Somtaaw warship, Kuun-Laan.
>>739568081Somebody shared the original homeworld 3 trailers on the official Warframe forums. The people there are canadian-european progressive cultists who have connections and actively participate in the destruction of the western game industry.
>>739569763Guess all I can do then is wait for the indie scene develop a bit more and for some crazy bastard to release the Homeworld-spiritual successor they have worked on for 28 years.
The bad haired woman is an easy story but i'd like the truth of it. The multiple delays were redflags that the development was in trouble for a long time, it was set to release for 2021 not 2024, they were pre-producing it in 2019.
It was looking fine for awhile. When they moved from series standard cutscenes I knew it was over
>>739570510It got delayed because it was sabatoged. >>739569763
>>739564421People who parrot others' shit tastes to have something to write in a discussion and didn't bother to dig into its cute strategy. It's also a cool homeworld game.
The fugly ass feminist wife of a gearbox exec happened.
>>739565045That's it mayn. It's because of DoK that i thought they could pull off HW3 so where did DoK come from, some other devs that left and it wasn't made by BBI or something?
>>739565045DoK was feminist and sucked, the consensus on day 1 was the game wasn't worth $50, it's one of many 8 hour disappointing AA RTS
>>739569001>>739569090And it works. Same with original's voices. Supposed spaceship pilots don't really freak out like Disney voice actors. Fact you can actually hear them maintaining professionalism under duress is what adds to voice acting.
>>739570510there's almost a good story there if they focused on different aspects of it.
>>739569001Nah he was a voice actorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0kOO-X-Jk
>>739570852Sure Evil Gay Sauron rolls in and veers an entire team off the cliff unchallenged by throwing all the work they've coded and magnetically replacing it all with bad work for the explicit purpose of not making money by releasing a project that's not liked, after all it's well known companies care more about agendas than revenue. It's not a realistic event for real life of the world outside your head. HW3 must have been shit from the start.
>>739550865This. I don't have any opinions on homeworld but I feel bad for the folks who genuinely liked the first two and then got this shit.
>>739571882Non-fans basically have no idea what an affront HW3 is.
>>739572021Fans don't either because very few people bought and played HW3.
>>739564769Pixi is a real clown
>>739565125They didn't. But they hired the people that did. The whole psychic space lesbians story and accompanying CGI cutscenes were done by people who were brought in.
>>739547358Man I beat deserts of kharak but I never finished the original game. I think I was on the map where you needed to destroy some big space fortress and got confused because I thought the mission should have ended after I destroyed the fortress. Might go back back and play it again sometime.
I don't think I ever finished Desert because I played on hard and eventually got my ass kicked and got stuck. I should really get back to it and suck it up on normal. I got Homeworld: Catalysm for Christmas or something from my buddy in high school. I miss that guy. I hope he's well. I'm so overdue for a replay.
>>739566792She was shagging someone in gearbox iirc.
>>739574170Manual is 141 pages thick.
>>739547358>what went so wrong?Homeworld 2.Not following the narration style of HM1 & HM:C, starting some EPIC PROPHECY Marvel-tier narration, and turning S'jet from a tragic background figure into THE CHOSEN ONE Marie Sue.Homeworld 3 is the logical conclusion of HM2's decisions.
>>739574473Apparently, half-life on dreamcast. Apparently, there's a Half-Life Generation pack with HL, team fortress classic, and half-life: opposing force.
>>739547358JEWED.com
>>739547358game is on the same right now, worth picking up? or piratingEven if I am not interested in story but just some skirmishes?
>>739547950>>739548242>>739550472just think of all the millions of little girls getting validated by the magnificent properties of this masterful narrative so expertly managed through this brilliant directorship, while playing homeworld 3
>>739574616What the fuck? The CD-rom is NOT in the box. Who the fuck borrowed it?
>>739550472wow she has a phd is shitting up games with useless tacked-on garbage
>>739574810No, bullshit story aside the game sucks assControls are god awful and balance is non existant, nobody played an RTS before this or a game for that matter, had no quality control and has no content, also runs like ass because UE5 but looks the same as the HWCollection
>>739571591Corporate suits have done this multiple times to multiple products already. It's not even a conspiracy theory.
>>739570510I lost all hope when they revealed a work in progress animation of one of the frigates firing. I think it was some kind of railgun and then entire model vibrated while charging like they had left the bolts loose or some shit. I can't find the video but it was awful.
>>739548242It's the bald woman and the hooded woman erasing themselves from existence so it's not that bad.
>>73954885799% UE5 isn't at fault here, FPS made with it have no problem with NPC using stairs/slopes/floors.
>>739576156Of course it isn't, only clueless morons keep parroting the engine cope. It's like saying a shit driver who crashed his car did it because the engine was running too smoothly. It's nonsensical
>>739569928Check out Era One
>>739547358Not a single long-awaited (10+ years) video game sequel has ever, EVER, been good.
>>739566242space sim is actually the most indie accessible genre which is why there's like 5 homeworld spiritual successors in early access
