this game FUCKS actually
>>739551693>botched the FPBP
>>739551671Feels antiquated.
>>739551850Feels like a PS2 game (good)
Great game, people are crazy.
It is really good. And fun.
>>739551975Ps2 games didn't suck too target like crazy>>739551850I wish, "modern" additions make the game worse. And many animations look worse than in ng 2, 3 and even 1.
>>739551975Platinum really can emphasize the aura in their games when they feel like it.
>>739551671No; it was a bad game. That's why it was a commercial failure.
>>739555276retard
>>739555276God Hand was also a commercial failure
>>739551671I believed NGB was an incredible pinnacle that could never be surpassed before I played NG4. Then I realized there's no helicopter boss fight in NG4 so it's the best one.
>>739551671Yeah, it fucking sucks. I liked the part where the hyped, foreshadowed weapon turns out to just be a worse version of Ryu's weapon, or how Ryu's "campaign" is just beating the same bosses as with Yakumo, or how Ryu feels ten times more fun than Yakumo DESPITE ONLY HAVING ONE FUCKING WEAPON.
>>739555697>>739555719t. Post the Steam charts of a game he hates as "undeniable proof of a game being shit".
>>739555910that only works for Concordian GAAS
>>739557085t. Posts the Steam charts of single player games like Dustborn, Code Vein 2 or Mixtape as "undeniable proof" of those games being shit.
>>739557085It never tells you if a game is good or bad, just how popular it is. People love garbage and skip past masterpieces all the time. It does make sense to care more about the player count for an online-only multiplayer game because no players means you can't start a match.
>>739551671one of the things I've come to appreciate about this game is that it basically doesn't have *that part*. Like, a lot of the best action games have shit bosses or a dumb enemy that requires you to completely ignore the core gameplay to deal with. Honestly the closest thing it has to *that part* is the rail grind sections but they're so short that I didn't even care and vastly prefer it over the platinum pace breakers I'm used to.
>>739551671>Doesn't look like Ninja Gaiden>Doesn't play like Ninja Gaiden>Isn't even made by Team Ninja>Platinum just strapped the name on their gay fujobait with flashy shit and called it a day>No one with a brain bought itI bet Ninja Gaiden Z sold more than this insult
>>739551671It's okay game, but bad Ninja Gaiden game. People would have liked it more if was new IP without trying to shoehorn in Ninja Gaiden mechanics or Ryu.
It's pretty telling how Wanted:Dead was vastly more successful, both critically and commercially, than Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>739557734shut up nigga
>>739557734It tells you that people would rather play a horrible game than a good one?
>>739558220No, it tells me that the game was worse than an already horrible one.
>>739557734>>739558637Eat shit Mork.
>>739557591I wanted to like the game because the action was faster and more intense than anything else coming out, but yeah it was impossible to get over how it was digging up the corpse of Ninja Gaiden to desecrate it and act like their cast of literal who OCs was better
>>739551735The other one was deleted by jannies.You are FPBP now!
I had a free month of Game Pass when this released. I downloaded it, but never pulled the trigger on playing. I'll wait for a deep discount sale now.
>>739557353>It never tells you if a game is good or badWell, /v/ says it does >Popular game good>Unpopular game badClaiming that it doesn't apply to a game you like makes you a hypocrite.
No Ayane no play
>>739557556It did. Yaiba actually had better sales.
>>739560934If you talk to human beings instead of strawmen you make up, you'd recognize them being a hypocrite requires them to do something and criticize doing much the same thing. You've imagined that you're talking to someone who posts Steam Charts constantly to shit on games they don't like, but also says Steam Charts aren't a representation of how good a game is when a game they do like isn't performing well. Sane people just never think player count is a measure of quality.
>>739551671>this game SUCKS actuallyagreed
>>739557734In your schizo delusions maybe
>>739561251I'm not imagining anything. I know you're the first one to post Steam player counts and Gematsu sales records for a game you loathe while yelling "see? I told you the game was shit!", while foaming at your mouth because everyone uses the same metrics for Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>739551671Good game. Camera is still ass, I cannot figure out why this is still an issue. It's been 22 years and they still can't make a functional camera. Difficulty is all over the place. Some enemies are sponges, some areas spawn eight million of them, and sometimes it doesn't matter because you can just spam bullshit and generally win. Fun game, it just has the exact same things wrong with it that Ninja Gaiden has always had.
>>739557556Tbf the game never pretended to be like the other NG games. Anyone with half a brain could tell this was gonna be another Platinum type game the moment they saw the trailer. However you could argue that maybe they shouldn't call it Ninja Gaiden and especially not a numbered sequel.
>>739561581And I know you type entirely by mashing keys with your feet while eating applesauce with your bare hands. Don't ask how I know this. I just know everything.
See? This is what I mean.>>739561406"Steam charts are an objective quality and success measure (unless it's a game I like the one that had bad numbers)"
>>739561858Yea that's my problem with it, it's taking a piss on ninja gaiden fans by saying it's ninja gaiden 4.If Ninja Gaiden Z was called Ninja Gaiden 4 it would get rightfully blasted to oblivion instead of just blasted for being kinda shit and out of touch
>>739551671Is DLC worth it?
>>739562002He's not using it as an objective quality measure. One idiot said Wanted: Dead is more successful than NG4, even commercially. That isn't true, and the player count image is evidence for that.
>>739562002>>739561406Uhm. Cringa Floppaiden bros...WTF is this?
>>739562203It's more levels for the game, including new boss fights and weapons. If you liked the levels in the base game enough, you'll like playing the DLC levels.
>>739562479What does this have to do with the bullshit >>739557734 was making up?
>>739562203For the asking price? No.
>>739562430But you keep claiming that Steam charts don't count.
>>739557734You're too obvious mork.
Suck my cock. You stupid shit posting pieces of shit. I bet you didn't even played the game you bunch of faggots.
>>739563206Well, why would you play a bad gane in the first place? Did you need to play Mixtape to know it's an artistic experiment that has no merits as a videogame? Did you need to play Concord to know it'sa horrible GAAS game? It's the same with NG4.
>>739551671It was a fun game with all the stuff added in the DLC(the weapons and Abyssal Road), just give it time and it will be an underrated masterpiece like God Hand.
>>739563938You probably are baiting with those comparisons but it's quite obvious Ninja Gaiden 4 has better gameplay than Concord and Mixtape.
>>739564375>quite obviousNot really; otherwise NG4 would have been liked by players unlike those two. Instead they're on the same boat.
>>739555276>>739555719>>739555910It's pretty telling that every difficult game that isn't made by Fromsoft straight up bombs. No one wants to admit that Bandai's "Prepare to Die" marketing is the entire reason for Dark Souls' relevance. They straight up negged gamers into playing that game.
>>739564691>otherwise NG4 would have been liked by players unlike those twoIt was generally well-liked, thoughie. 82 on Metacritic too >inb4 doesn't count
its an amazing game. the people who say it sucks in this thread are those fucking retarded elitist posers, exact same fucking retarded posers who ssy DMC5 sucks. fuck em
>>739565046The Neptunia and Senran Kagura games have better scores than that; so does Mixtape. So yeah, they don't count.
>>739565262Means all these games were liked by players
>>739565339Or they were astroturfed.
>>739551671A lot of games that /v/ shittalks are actually good. Best thing you can do is just play shit that appeals to you and ignore these pedos
>>739565241>A NG fan defending DMC if all gamesThis is how you know that the people defending NG4 are either shitposters or astroturfers.
>>739565485False. /v/ is pretty much the only videogame community worth listen to.If anons tell you a game is shit it truly is.
Do you think Game pass effected the sales of the game?I mean even if it was not on game pass id not pay 70 Euros for it.I got game pass to play Forza 4 and Binge the Cod SP campaigns and play Mixtape but i decided to play this game as well.It is the kind of game you can beat in less than a weak and game pass is like 1 month long for 10$.
>>739565392Which games weren't astroturfed in your opinion?>inb4 gachaslop
>>739551671It's the bluest game
>>739565662You will claim they're astroturfed too so why bother?
>>739565654>Do you think Game pass effected the sales of the game?Yes, see.
>>739557734nah W:D was decent to play once but it's literally unplayable because of the inskippable minigame and half of the levels sucks.
>>739565654>Do you think Game pass effected the sales of the game?I mean that's possible, but the biggest is:>No Hayabussy>You play this literal who over HayabussyWhy the fuck would you make a Ninja Gay-den without Hayabussy being the protagonist?
>>739567651Nobody gives a shit if you change the protag for someone better.The problem is that Ryu was a generic ninja and they replaced him with an even worse generic ninja.
>>739557734
>>739567963>Nobody gives a shit if you change the protag for someone better.>He unironically says after NG4 bombedSure, Jan-Anon.gif Whatever you say, buddy.No Hayabussy, no sale.
>>739565653Always do the opposite what /v/ says.
>>739568408Mythical pic
>>739569484read the whole post next time.
>>739565653The only thing /v/ (comprised 99% of jeets and indonesians) likes is gachaslop.
>>739567963You're lucky I'm one of the 5 people who played shinobi and nightshade so I can relate to this post
>>739567963>Ryu was a generic ninja and they replaced him with an even worse generic ninja.Partially wrong.Ryu is THE ninja archetype in the increasingly boring yet bloated and soulless modern character design climate. Being a straightforward, elegant "generic" ninja IS cool, especially now. He's a stoic and lawful professional and that's just cool. He is iconic. Replacing him was never going to work, especially not after a hiatus.But more importantly he WAS NOT replaced by another generic ninja. Yakumo is a faggot. He's a chuuni emo angst edgelord from Y2K anime that's also rocking hype beast Kpop techwear and blackout tattoos. He is a bloatmaxxed design chasing 2 audiences at minimum. He might be generic in another way but he is not a generic ninja. He could never satisfy the men that fell in love with Hayabusa. Pause.Before the triggered Yakumofag quotes me - I actually like Yakumo. He actually appeals to me yet even I acknowledge that he was a mistake. He appeals to very specific kind of people and they seemingly didn't show up for this franchise, so it was an evident miscalculation and a poor decision from the inception.
I dislike Succ to Target because the animations doesn't really match it.
>>739567963>>739571736So mean.
>>739565046The DLC is mixed however, for good reasons.
>>739572019agreed. I don't actually believe Ryu is generic, I just wrote that to make my point more obvious. You're right about Yakumo too. His writing is actually decent but that hardly matter for an action game when his design is so awful.
>>739572991insane that Ryu's 2nd weapon doesn't even have BR attacks
>>739572019Yeah I agree and I like yakumo too
>>739573720Not really. They made a point that gleam/dark gleam comes from the Dragon Sword/Dark Dragon Blade.Still kinda lame since they could have compensated by having the weapon have aerial special attacks. Like that it would have a had a niche on its own.
>>739563040They don't work as measures of quality, like I saiThey do work as measures of how many people are playing it at once on Steam.
>>739572052That's a more valid reason than anything else I've heard about it.
>>739557556>>739561032yaiba is good and underrated its only crime is carrying the ninja gaiden name on itthere i said it
>>739575630take a suck
