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What was the last good Monster Hunter game?
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Generations
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>>739552231
Risebreak of course.
There’s only been one actually bad MH games, Wilds.
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/v/ doesn't want to hear this but
Rise
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>>739552231
4U
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Monster Hunter 1 is the only good MH game and anything after it is casualized toddler slop for literal retarded children.
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>>739552231
>MH1 - MHGU
uncslop
>MH Worlds - MH Wilds
Kino
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Sunbreak! Sunbreak! Sunbreak!
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>>739552613
my wives are so cute
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>>739552324
Haw about the phone game.
That shit was awful.
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>>739552231
Risebreak. Prior was Worldbourne, GU, 4U (I personally hate this one but whatever), 3U, FU, Frontier. Milds is MH1/Dos tier.
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>>739552231
The one you just posted, obviously

Then again I haven't played MHS3 yet but I'm expecting good things.
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>>739552231
World, in fact its the only good one
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Generations and it's not even close. Utterly confounding that it's not on Steam it would print money.
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>>739554082
Japanese companies are profoundly retarded, and have a belief that older titles will cannibalize the sales of their newer titles.
Also I think the average nu-hunter is genuinely too retarded for the classic MH experience; I can already see the bad reviews coming in, complaining about loading zones and "clunky controls"
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world mogs and the 15 fags that think otherwise are fulltime 4chan users
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>>739552613
>DUDE
>SPAM WIREBUGS ON CD
>LMAO
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>>739554082
>it would print money.
It factually wouldn't, too clunky
A port should be piss-easy though
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>>739552397
/v/ will literally non-stop sucking off Rise's cock, meanwhile I said I actually like Wilds once and some dude spent the next 30 minutes spamming death threats at me in a MH thread
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>>739554726
lol, don't try rewriting history stupid niggerfaggot (oxymoron)
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>>739554781
>he fell for the World vs. Rise shitposting that was really just consolefags using MH as a proxy to go at each others throats
you can't even rightfully criticize Rise anymore
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>>739554685
>spam
Sounds like skill issue
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>>739554827
cope faggot
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>>739554685
your primalzeno proofs?
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>>739552231
Sunbreak was good. Not as good as Worldborne, but still good.

It really is just Wilds that sucked the fun out of the series
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>>739554845
>please ignore how every weapons end game builds in Sunbreak was entirely based around building and using Wirebugs as much as humanly possible
lmao
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>>739554989
yep, it killed my enthusiasm for the series. sunbreak was already such a weird direction after world (i still enjoyed it), but it made this shit so much worse.
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>>739552231
rise:sunbreak (500 hours)

world (900 hours) was good until they added crutch claw and ruined it

wilds (35 hours) is truly bad
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>>739555280
every weapon ever in monster hunter is based around using its ultimate/best move as much as possible

the fact that the best move was built into wirebug timer just added another layer to this repeated gameplay element
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>>739555410
>added another layer to this repeated gameplay element
Yeah and that layer is just "spamming cooldowns like some mazed MMORPG fag that needs the game to tell him what moves to use and when"
Considering /v/ is full of brown autistic retards that need the game to hold their hand and tell them how to have fun I can see why that would be well received here, yes.
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why is the wildjeet local schizo still seething over rise?
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>>739555548
I don't think you played the game, or any monster hunter for that matter. You're just one of those mentally ill retards who gets off on arguing on the internet.
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>>739552231
Definitely not this
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>>739555548
>spamming cooldowns like some mazed MMORPG fag that needs the game to tell him what moves to use and when
???????
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>>739554726
>/v/ will literally non-stop sucking off [the game it constantly calls "the downfall of the series"] cock
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>>739555354
The top three MH are Sunbreak, GU, and Tri U.
>those are all bingtendo games
Correction two of them are B team games while Tri U borrows heavily from B team's assets and content to make itself a complete game unlike its Wii predecessor. Long story short B team makes the better Monster Hunter entries and provide the better content. I would've said main team had monster design, but they've been garbage at that since World.
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anons getting filtered by resource management not allowing them to spam their strongest move 24/7 will never not be hilarious
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>>739555619
the "brown autistic retard" part really struck a nerve huh
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>>739552231
Take a guess
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>>739555831
>MH now totally needs in combat resource management
Yikes!
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>>739555916
you know that weapons already had this for a long time on top of shit like wystones, hunting arts and mantles?
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>>739556058
you mean everything /v/ has shit on in the past?
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>>739555916
Like managing when to drink your potions in the midst of a fight?
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>Freedom Unite
>4 Ultimate
>vanilla World
The God Trio of Monster Hunter
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>>739552231
The last good Monster Hunter game was MH4U
Now the only good modern MH game is World, is the only who still maintain some sort of MH identity by having thing like tracks and undestanding the monster, not just killing it, but the art style is fucked, specially the weapons, wtf was that.
Rise continues the line of anime power shit from generations.
Wilds is just the worse of both, terrible art style and even worse world bulding than the anime shit.
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Rathalos, my beloved wife.
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>>739556187
I miss non-cluch claw world so much..
If they've fixed the weapon designe and remove the forced solo missions with that cutscene bullshit, i'd say it was the perfect mosnter hunter experience.
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>>739556097
would be news to me given how popular CB is. Do anons even remember how LS feels like when you don't get free red with foresight and ISS?
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>>739555280
This nigga takes 20 minutes on every hunt and thinks he knows what the endgame is like lmao
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>>739556291
Rathalos are male
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>>739555872
>the "brown autistic retard" part really struck a nerve huh
MH was never a "white incel" series to begin with. Go play an RTS or something idk.
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>>739552231
Wilds
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>>739556436
Yes, and?
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>>739555881
>sub 1k for 5 year old title
>sub for 7 year old title
By this metric, Wilds is the only good game, and that's if you consider those good numbers for a year old title.

Post older guild cards from gen 3 and 4
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>>739556291
Your wife has a dick retard
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>>739556487
I'm happy for you
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>>739556504
>By this metric, Wilds is [cope]
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>>739554420
>clunky controls
To be fair, if Capcom ever wises up enough to port all the old games I expect later QoL stuff like hold to gather, saving item loadouts, taking items out of the supply box not taking five seconds each because of the retarded animation etc. to be added into all the games as part of the port. Fixing the most egregious bugs like unfucking 3U charm table or fixing the auto guard gunlance from P3rd should make it in too
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>>739556582
Wilds is shit, but your hours make Rise and World look
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>>739556504
>>739556671
>nooo you have to leave the game running when you go to sleep so the number can go up
Is this Wilds marketing department newest strategy?
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>>739554726
Unfortunately you have to wait until the next game is released before you're allowed to praise the current released MH game without getting any angry replies.
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>>739554726
It's a combination of the zelda cycle and 3Dsecondaries, give it a couple of years and it will change.
Also, please understand that this place doesn't fucking matter and 99% of discussion is performative bullshit made by a small bunch of terminally online sociopaths pushing an agenda.
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>>739552231
4U was the last good MH
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>>739552231
3U is the best one.
GU is the last one I'd consider "good".
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>>739552231
World obviously, the series peaked there and that fact makes hunter boomers seethe
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>>739552231
4U is my personal favourite but XX was also pretty fun. I enjoy modern MH but they don't quite hit the same for me still some good fun though.
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>>739552231
3U, but really it was Tri
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>>739552231
>1-4
Best monuhun
>FU2
Peak monhun
>World
Great fake monhun
>Worlds
Dogshit fake monhun
>Everything else
Mediocre monhun
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4U because it's a big game.
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3U
The console version. Fuck the retards that hated underwater combat.
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>>739560063
>4U because it's a big game
It's like of the weakest monster rosters of all time.
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Are we still doing that thing where we say the base game is the worst thing ever and then the DLC makes it the best game ever?
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>>739560063
4U
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>>739560302
says who?
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>>739560302
It doesn't matter who the roster is, what matters is the gameplay.
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>>739560328
well its accurate to the last 2 games
Rise had an actual comeback with Sunbreak, but it remains to be seen if crapcom can pull that off with Wilds
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>>739561535
Unless they do a complete 180 and fix performance it won't
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>>739552231
p3rd
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>>739555354
>>739555816
Best MH games are

Dos
>400 hours

Freedom Unite
>1200 hours

World
>1000 hours
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>>739552231
I had fun with Wilds. Why do people hate it so much?
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>>739562442
Because it's not fun
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>>739552231
FREEDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YfiVGSbus
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>>739562442
Mostly due to performance issues on PC version. Gameplay is watered down to appeal to westies and outsiders too.
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I just wish there was a good one that would scratch the itch to do some hunts that I could play without fucking about with emulators or getting an old console out. World and Rise are both fine games at their core but then I remember they both have annoying gimmicks (claw/bird collecting) that get in the way of just hunting, and Wilds doesn't even have that. Maybe it's different for other weapons by none of the ones I like feel good to play in it.
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>>739562847
The Japs should maybe play more games then instead of gooner mobile slop. Then Capcom wouldn't have to appeal to ''westies''
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>>739552231
Iceborne
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>>739562169
>400 hours in dos
calling bullshit
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>>739562442
mostly performance but the game does have some real issues outside of that like the story, the small roster, the deco split, focus mode etc
biggest issue by far though is just how dogshit the balance is, anything below 8* is just a complete joke, feels like hunting LR monsters with MR gear, 8 & 9* are a half-decent sweetspot, but then 10* is just one-shot city
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Anyone saying
>4/4U
>X/XX/Generations/GU
>Worldborne
>Risebreak
is purely shitposting. All of those are responsible for the direction the series took thanks to the introduction of cancerous mechanics like mounting, every weapon having evade/counter options, rides, and the slinger. You cannot criticize Wilds for being shit while defending ANY of these.
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>>739563320
My problem with Wilds is that it looks and runs like shit
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>>739563248
Yeah I do actually hate that the balancing in the endgame is just non-existent. Once you get the highest rank gear you basically only have around 6 actually challenging monsters.
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>>739552231
>Will save wilds and kill rise faggots en masse
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>>739563582
Only the Apexes + Arkveld + Gore + TU monsters matter. They rest are shitmons.
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>>739563665
>Lazy fatty reskin
>Saving anything
Lol
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>>739561395
>It doesn't matter who the roster is, what matters is the gameplay
Don't those go hand in hand? If I don't like the monster designs, their movesets, or their gear, then why the fuck would I play the game?
>for the challenge duh
Kind of pointless if I don't enjoy the aesthetics of the game and the content it provides. Why put forth hours or effort into things I don't enjoy visually? I hate the fuck out of Kushala Daora on all fronts, but I'll kill it for the weapons it provides. So yeah I'd say roster matters, at least for me anyway since it dictates how long I plan to stick around.
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>>739562847
>Gameplay is watered down to appeal to westies and outsiders too.
And they didn't even like it either
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Maybe monster hunter has just always been shit
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>>739552231
wilds
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>>739564023
Unironically
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>>739564023
It always was inferior to Souls games
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>>739563320
>You cannot criticize Wilds for being shit while defending ANY of these
Of course I can! It's simple really, three out of the four games you mentioned actually have good weapon design and two of the four actually have hunts that are fun. For those keeping track at home I'm isolating 4/U and World/Iceborne as the games with the problems.
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>>739564357
>conveniently ignoring GU's overtuned style weapon gimmicks that went on to become normal parts of movesets
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>>739564085
Honestly, I never understood the comparison between the two. Like, the only thing they really have in common was slow weapon movements in the earlier games
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>>739562442
I'll give you some real criticism. I thought this game was supposed to have seamless environments and you'd be able to be out in the field the whole time and just keep hunting. The environments aren't that big. The monsters are too easy unless you do the event quests. The expansion needs to add to the current locales and add more. You should be able to go to the edge of the dunes and hop on a sand ship to fight a mohran or something. You should be able to go to the lake in the jungle and swim over to jungle 2. They could fully double down on the ancient civilization and let us fight Jin Dahaad at the top of the giant tower seen in wyveria. The scope of the game just isn't what was promised.
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>>739564357
>mounting and wystones
>styles allowing you to dance circles around animatronic tier monsters and a quantity over quality roster
>raider rides, clutch claw, slinger, gimped vanilla game
>palamutes, rampage, wire bugs, gimped vanilla game that didn't even have a fucking ending at launch
They are all fundamentally flawed and progressively got worse.
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3rd gen introduced the exhaust mechanic, just saying
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>>739564085
This is why people hate souls gamers. Always finding a way to gargle from’s cock no matter the subject matter.
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>>739564701
I'd argue that it is seamless. Aside from Gog's and Zoh's arenas, you can go basically go anywhere from any starting point
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>>739564483
GU had Loli catgirls so it's fine
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>>739552231
World/iceborne
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>>739564483
Don't reason with retards, it's a lost cause.
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>I WANT THE BOSS TO NEVER STOP ATTACKING OKAY?????
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>>739563320
>every weapon having evade
man I wish more weapons had mobility stuff for repositioning but without iframes instead all we got is retarded counters or super long iframed dodges
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>>739566153
>every weapon having evade
>man I wish more weapons had mobility stuff for repositioning but without iframes instead all we got is retarded counters or super long iframed dodges
Wirebugs
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>>739566301
worked for me but anons hate them
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>>739564483
I don't care about that, I just want good looking gear, plain and simple. I hate the fuck out of Kushala Daora but will go out of my way to murder it more than once for its weapons. If there's a reason to kill or obtain something (which basically amounts to I want it) then I'll keep playing, if not then that shortens my play time.

>>739564804
>mounting and wystones
Former was terrible in 4 but made bearable in G and the latter will always suck which is why I singled it out (duh).
>styles allowing you to dance circles around animatronic tier monsters and a quantity over quality roster
See what I said to the anon above.
>>raider rides, clutch claw, slinger, gimped vanilla game
Again I singled out World and 4 for a reason.
>palamutes, rampage, wire bugs, gimped vanilla game that didn't even have a fucking ending at launch
I've wanted dogs companions since playing Freedom Unite 16 years ago so you'll never see me consider them a bad thing. Wirebugs are great and I love using them to navigate the levels. Never understood why people take issue with them in hunts, I barely use them enough to tripper wyvern rides. Rampages and end game are the only things I actually take issue with (even if I didn't actually reach either until months down the line when TUs were happening and that's with playing the game since launch).
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>>739563582
To be fair this has been a problem with MH games since forever.
Sunbreak was pretty novel in that it actually tried to make Shitmons a bit more relevant with Anomaly Hunts.
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>>739566704
Kushala weapons are fuck ugly
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>>739552231
4 ultimate
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>>739566778
They've been doing that since 4 with frenzied monsters. The shitmons still become irrelevant once you rank into the stronger monsters, as their materials stop being relevant.
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>>739562442
Because they can’t run it on their third world toaster made from parts that were outdated by 2016.
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Whats a heroic lance set in wilds
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>weirdly apologetic towards generations and rise
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>>739566931
In Sunbreak, afflicted monster mats technically never stopped being relevant, that’s why I said Sunbreak was pretty novel for it.

I do hope Wilds G-Rank does something similar for an end game hook. Can’t be too hard to find an excuse for either, just say the Dragontorch is going crazy and it’s starting to fuck up monsters as well.
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>>739567090
Why can't we just have fucking hunt-a-thons back or weak monsters paired with stupid strong ones? Tri U does that, 4U does that, GU does that, RS do it yet for some reason World and Wilds just don't. Just give us good quest variety instead of making end game an endless grind of 'fight this monster but with scaled up damage'.
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>>739567090
As long as it is material farming and not some super rng driven weapon grind simulator like the shit they have now
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>>739567421
World had those and nobody cared about them aside HR/MR grinders
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>>739567720
Granted what else do you need? End game doesn't have to be an augment/weapon/armor grind like it's been doing since 4. There's nothing wrong with having satisfaction knowing you can in fact murder everything without attaching a modifier to it.
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>>739568106
I don't care about that I care about gear
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>>739552231
Risebreak is one of my favorite games in the series.
Wilds is one of my least favorites.
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>>739567701
When I think Monster Hunter I think God Eater futuristic robots.
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>>739567701
HOLY FUCKING KINO
OTHER WEAPONS WOULD NEVER
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>>739569734
All weapons can do that in Milds
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Can these fucking retards just port old games on to steam with multiplayer enabled but zero changes
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>>739569950
Just emulate them retard
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>>739569950
No, because they want you to only play their latest slop. Spending time on their older games means you're not buying their two billion cosmetic DLC.
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>>739563237
Why
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>>739567421
>Why can't we just have fucking hunt-a-thons back or weak monsters paired with stupid strong ones? Tri U does that, 4U does that, GU does that, RS do it yet for some reason World and Wilds just don't.
Why would you lie so brazenly when Wilds in particular quite literally has like 3+ mons gangbanging you constantly on every single map and spams investigations/quests/event quest with multiple mons over and over again?
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>>739564085
Both are good.
Demon's Souls released 2009 while the first Monster Hunter already came out 2004 on the PS2 with fully working online hunts.
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>>739569384
>it's bad because it's a kino collab
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>>739552231
3U
The 3ds was were the series went to die.
4U literally paved the road for world and Gens is just slop
Dont trust 3dsbabs
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>>739569950
>but zero changes
You know that this will never happen. So stop FUCKING asking for it, because they will fuck it up anyways.

ALL old MHs are playable already on PC.
ALL complete with online features.

If you want to play them THEN GO AND PLAY THEM
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>>739571228
Nah MH is slop
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>>739571143
Because most Wilds haters on /v/ are armchair faggots who most likely did not play it, or dropped it early and never saw any of the changes and as such regurgitate incorrect or outdated information.
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>>739555881
Unfair comparison since sunbreak's endgame is just mind numbingly levelling quests for 450 hours alone.
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>>739569950
Same reason Nintendo will never release the only older Smash games on their newer platforms.
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>>739571475
Okay then what are you doing in this thread, falseflagger?
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>>739555831
For some reason I actually kept running low on honey & potions in Rise because I only ever unlocked one sub, didn't do any side quests & missed tons of stuff

I thought the village quest were the main thing, turned out it's the *hub* quest I should have done instead
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>>739571456
>If you want to play them THEN GO AND PLAY THEM
It's all performative. These people don't play games. They just want attention for how much they "would actually totally play this game if [stupid reason]".

Just ignore them. Like Capcom is doing it.
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>>739571647
>Rise player unable to process gathering items without the game doing it for them
Checks out
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>>739571647
Playing Rise and Sunbreak for a prolonged amount of time actively makes you a worse monster hunter
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>>739571713
Until you realize wirefall is a meme that shouldnt be spammed
Then you turn into the 2% of rise players that think
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>>739567090
Is Master Rank just "G" rank for Westerns?
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>>739571807
>Then you turn into the 2% of rise players that think
98% of Rise players don't think confirmed
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>>739571519
Ragebaiting retards like you
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>>739552613
They're not even in Sunbreak m8
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>>739571647
>For some reason I actually kept running low on honey & potions in Rise
How? Between lottery, store sales, and the cohoot nest at the pet park you shouldn't be low on anything. By the end of the village quests you should have more shit than you know what to do with.

>>739571143
>>739571498
>having to sit and wait for interesting quests to appear and if they don't then tough shit is somehow better than being able to select them whenever you want from quests denoted by the developers themselves from a predetermined list
One wastes me time, the other doesn't. It's quite simple. I shouldn't have to sit and wait for Rey Dau to be paired with the fucking frog, turn the game off, then hope I get lucky. That's just retarded.
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>>739572364
Yeah brother I know your precious time is to be respected
You need to hunt 3 same ass borin as fuck magalas 300 times each after all
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sunbreak
iceborne with ice mod ( basically makes the claw almost useless)
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>>739572364
>sit and wait for Rey Dau to be paired with the fucking frog, turn the game off, then hope I get lucky.
Just rest in the tent or join someone else's investigation.
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>>739572364
If it's makes you feel better I never actually take on hunts with two monsters or more it's WAY too stressful after playing FU years back with randoms & carting every other time
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>>739572798
>>739566704
>>739564804
If I buy base world or uninstall iceborne
Can I play base world without the fucked up hitzones or is clutch claw addwd retroacrively?
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>>739571498
Kys nigger. This is the first MH game I played I can actually call bad (started with Tri and played every mainline since).
Performance did improve with TUs but it is still a very underwhelming game full of flaws. Game is still gray/brown. Most of content is game journalist tier difficulty then there is super jump for AT where monsters have 10x the HP and no cooldowns, which force you to just spam offsets with many weapons. Late game is just gog farming which is lame as fuck and all for weapon parts and stat rolling them.
Crafted weapons are the worst, just let us use regular monster weapons, you already have plenty rng with talismans/decos.
Omega (Savage) is an amazing fight though. And I'm glad Lagi is back even if he has forced glorified cutscene segment in his fight.
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>>739552761
not him but I find it hard to even consider it when thinking about MH games. Mobile spinoffs don't count
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>>739572265
You get them as followers
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>>739572961
>I started with Tri
Tribab you're the cancer killing the community
Tri was based, atleast compared to the utter slop that was gen 4
Didnt know how good we had it
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>>739572265
retard
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>>739573038
>followers

Oh that explains a lot thanks anon

I never even used to dog just two cats so never knew they could join you like the knight did in the sunbreak quest
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>>739554726
rise is good tho, miles ahead of world and wilds, and the only good nu mh game
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>>739572961
>This is the first MH game I played I can actually call bad
not World? Wilds at least patched in some high scaled monsters that can be fun to hunt though most weapons are counter slop sadly.
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>>739573153
>played Rise (sorry) without dogs (fuck why)
I am sorry you had to do that anon
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>>739573153
You can use followers on top your cat/dogs
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>>739572961
>>739573197
Base Rise pre updatws literally didnt have a final boss and had forced wyvern riding btw
Base rise was complete fucking ass
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>>739573153
wait, no mount? that sounds painful
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>>739573263
Rise has cute lolis tho
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>>739573357
Sadly I have enough standards as to where a dogshit game isnt fixed by having 3 cute chicks in it
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>>739572961
Maybe I missed something but did Rise get rid of Gunner sets completely?
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>>739555280
You can identify speedrun spergs in MH games with these simple steps:
>is he solely concerned with how you achieve the most damage
>does he complain about the way to do the most damage because he doesn't like it but feels forced to use it anyway
Yep, it's a speedrun sperg.

Anyone normal finds a skill combinaiton that he likes gameplay wise.

A normal person treats the game like this:
>Evade extender sounds good, I'll use it
>Speed eater sounds good because I need to heal a lot, I'll use it
>Mushroomancer and wide range sounds good because I'm a dumbass and I want to do support shit
>Draw and sheathed skills because I like the hit and run playstyles on the weapons it works on
>max out def, earplugs, stun immunity, status immunity because I just want to not give a fuck about mechanics and be a brick
>wirebug maxxing because I think those skills are fun
>para weapons because I like unloading on a stunned monster
>sleep weapons because wakeups are fun

>haha, wow, this build is cool and enjoy fighting the monsters and learning their moves this way, I'm really good at fighting malzeno now

A speedrun sperg sees the game as such
>wow you can't get sub 3m30s on gold rathian without the perfect stunlock loop you can achieve with this specific setup, I don't like this playstyle but I feel forced to use it to "compete" (I don't actually compete in TA, I just imitate them), this game is horribly balanced!
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I started playing World as my first game. these are my only big negative criticisms so far (when it comes to intended features)
>theres a lot of bloat when it comes to side little things for progression. More purposeful and fleshed out things like botanical research is cool, but theres a lot of dumb shallow time consuming filler like steamworks, items that are only for selling, bounties, the photograph hunting...
>softening monster parts is just kind of boring compared to using your actual moveset. It would be better if more weapons had specific moves that could cause a soften, like Lance does.
>>By extension softening, mostly because of, Weakness Exploit is too disproportionally strong.

>way too much emphasis on skills that are free damage buffs everyone uses (weakness exploit, critical bonuses, agitator, generic damage buffs etc) at the detriment of more interesting and specific damage bonuses, like Critical Draw
>way too many skills that are practically mandatory or universally desired (ie: health boost) at the detriment of niche or more memey skills
>>in fact many niche or meme harvesting/fishing/etc skills could have used their own separate slots

>wallbangs and flinch shot are unequivocally awesome, its just that they are far too spammable to the point it dumbs down the game if you abuse it
>being able to craft 384u283q max potions on the fly is retarded
>breaking parts is sometimes way too outperformed by just straightforward killing the monster asap and aiming for the head

>i wish enemies had a more fleshed out flinch/stagger/clagger etc systems based on how and how hard you are hitting them as opposed to simply damage thresholds
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>>739573486
Gunner sets were removed in the armor overhaul world did
Negative skills gone too
Which should totally come back to fight back the armor skill spam
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>>739573486
Gunner/blademaster sets have been gone since world. Blademaster weapons have higher defenses built into the weapon to compensate
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>>739573263
>but Rise
OK? I played the PC version that already had all patches. The only thing World had over Rise were the events but otherwise World was pretty bad and I find it hard to believe that any """veteran""" actually thinks it's better than its predecessors.
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>>739573543
>>theres a lot of bloat when it comes to side little things for progression. More purposeful and fleshed out things like botanical research is cool, but theres a lot of dumb shallow time consuming filler like steamworks, items that are only for selling, bounties, the photograph hunting...
A lot of people have fun with the little soulful side minigames, you don't have to engage with them
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>>739573272
It actually wasn't that bad being the slowest hunter in the group was a little bad if the monster died halfway across the map though
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>>739573553
Nothing wrong with more armor skills
>nuuu I just want 15% damage on one skill instead of 3% on 5
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>>739573531
I just wish the newer games had any content that wasnt "Quality of Life"'d out of the game aside of literally just fighting the monster to justify not worrying about killing it fast over everything else.
What are we not gonna talk about that?
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>>739573704
G-rank usually fixes this and in fact everyone whines it's too hard. I don't see why it won't happen the same way in wilds
High rank is always easy and brainless
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>>739573636
>but world
>in response to 2 posts literally going >but wilds / rise?
Lmao Risebabs are so insecure its funny as fuck you're like 4U fags 2.0
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>>739573673
practically all my friends ignore them, they should simply be more fleshed out. Either way i shouldnt have included actual minigames like the photographs in there. But what about everything else than minigames?

Steamworks is a literal time waster for 9999 resources, it should have been a real gamemode. All the bloat selling items are silly. Theres way too many individually shallow item sources spread around with lots of overlap
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>>739572364
>>having to sit and wait
What sit and wait retard?
Literally just enter a map and start killing shit.
>I shouldn't have to sit and wait for Rey Dau to be paired with the fucking frog
Good news, you don't! Literally rest in your tent for a pitiable 500pts and you'll quickly reset the entire world state!
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>>739552397
I enjoying Rise so far
I'm going to hunt Thunder Serpent Narwa this weekend (Steam)
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>>739572960
To my knowledge (and sheer assumptions), the moment you buy Iceborne you're locked to Iceborne. This isn't like the arcade/cartridge days where you bought the later version by still had access to the original. Possibly you're only way around is making a new account, buying World and just not buying Iceborne.
>Can I play base world without the fucked up hitzones or is clutch claw addwd retroacrively?
That's added in the moment you start a new file so long as Steam, Playstation, or whomever recognizes you have Iceborne in your account. My sister has access to clutch claw and she just killed Nergigante for the very first time this Saturday. She can't use it worth a damn, but that's largely due to me not teaching her yet, she's got enough to think about given World is her first MH.
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>>739573871
Good luck anon keep an eye out for any Orbs that drop less then 2% drop rate per hunt!
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>>739573776
>having to wait until g rank to get side content in MH
Lmao youre a retard
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>>739573812
retard you were the one who responded with Rise critique out of the blue after Wilds and World were shat on
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>>739573042
Cheers.
I miss underwater combat. I don't think 4 was that bad, overall I do enjoy many of the new systems they added and feel of combat. I'm fine with mounting, GU styles, Wirebug skills (some of them, it wasn't well balanced at all).
I enjoy both the new and old games, thankfully I feel like I can enjoy most despite of what was added later. Even Wilds combat has plenty of potential, it does feel good, but they took it too far and now the only way they can make it "hard" is to balance around counter spam with every single weapon.

>>739573197
World was fine. As I stated above, I'm not against any and all changes, even if there is streamlining involved. World GS felt good to me, and so did many of the fights. That game's biggest issues for me were what is probably considered to be the norm: handler, build variety (le crit spam), and the god awful clutch claw. Even if that latter one is from Iceborne. At least they increased the tenderize time with later updates but that still sucked. Iceborn Fatalis solo is still one of my favorite fights in the series.
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>>739552231
>last good mh
mh 3u overall and base worlds if we ignore the dlc.
>worst games
4, wilds, rise and iceborne were all ass for fags. Wilds was just on another level, so even the biggest brandcucks couldnt defend it. The nintendo brandcuck will tell ya rise and wirebugs are anything but awful garbage that ruins the franchise and cuz base world was decent people handwave how godawful iceborne is. mh4 was the start of the terrible gimmicks.
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>>739571456
The online features are not complete.
>>739571652
You are not human.

Wilds is dogshit. Capcom WILL rerelease the games by the way, they do it to every single one of their games
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>>739571498
This is kind of a self own, nobody fucking played milds after launch
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>gunner armor
>Let's make brand new designs for just 3 weapon classes bro!
It was a retarded concept from the start
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>>739574106
And people who unironically call it milds are all an autistic clique from /vg/ as it literally is not a term used outside 4chan.
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>>739573997
I do enjoy the classic and newer games too but theres a bunch of shit that just doesnt land
>Mounting
No one fucking likes it yet capcom doesnt drop opting to REWORK IT EVERY SINGLE GAME
>Rng maps and Gacha weapons
>Levelling quests
Why the fuck do I need to GRIND THE MONSTER FOR IT TO BECOME STRONGER
>Supermoved
Atleast styles were a cool idea
>Clutch Claw
>Scout Flies
Self explanatory
>Wirebugs
Supermoves but spammable and stronger
>wirefall
Spammable adhd
Rise had pretty fun combat, shame about the game itself
And overall I think Wilds is a good BASE for future games, expanding on a shitton of areas, but Wilds at its current state is kinda barebones.
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I never enjoyed gunner playstyle.
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>>739574216
Kind of a self own, this game basically has nothing past this site because it has no cultural impact whatsoever because milds is shit
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>>739574009
Guess how many people who started with World, actually went back and tried 3u or 4u and liked them.

I'd say an absolute amount of 0
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>>739574009
>Base world
Shit story into Tempered elder spam was dogshit, what are you on about?
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>>739574331
Just as many players started on 4U and liked earlier entries
>OOOH THE CLUNKINESS
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>>739574331
4U is shit
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>>739572887
>>739573870
So your solution is to sit and wait in the tent and I still don't get it then sit and wait in the tent some more. That's a full proof system you got there, totally flawless and not a fucking time waster compared to just having a good ole quest list like Freedom Unite.
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>>739574385
Yeah id rather do rampages amirite?
>>739574414
Quest in FU also were rotative and you had to go into a quest and leave it for them to show up
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>>739574331
At least half
4U was okay, but swimming was absolute shit and I dropped 3U because of it
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>>739574414
Quick anon, when were you a le to fight Jhen Mohran in tri?
Or how did seasons work in Dos?
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>>739574452
Base rise was farming narwa, rampages were never meta
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>>739573997
>World GS felt good to me, and so did many of the fights
Wilds GS falls off hard in the lategame and the offset spam fucking sucks but at least the 8 star and higher monsters are a threat. World had a pathetic roster with lethargic monsters that weren't fun to hunt unless winning is your only criteria to have fun. Shoulder tackling into TCS that has nearly guaranteed stagger may be flashy but doesn't make the game much fun if there is no challenge.
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>>739567701
I know it's popular to hate FF slop but that fight was ultra kino
Hope they learn from it for the expac
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>>739574628
>anything in wilds
>a threat
Oh no the braindead cattle is retarded
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>>739574414
How did you handle the investigations in Rise, World, and previous games if just advancing time triggers you that much?
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>>739574678
sure post your GS 10 star hunts of Wilds.
>b-but
yea you dont own the game right?
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>>739552231
You just posted it. Wilds was an improvement in every area compared to Worlds and Rise. The expansion will make it even better.
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>>739574678
>One shots you
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>>739574257
Yep, I pretty much agree with you. I think a gimmick becomes problematic when they start balancing the game way too hard around using it.
For example, while mounting doesn't terribly bothers me and I don't care that they keep changing it, it is a afk brain mini game that feels very pointless overall. Like a 30 second downtime every hunt. You can still clear the hunts with a respectable time without using it, so it's fine in my book.
Now, doing Fatalis without tenderizing? Actually fucking impossible. Now time to bloat the entire roster's hp threefold to make up for the claw. Fire the designer who came up with that shit.
Then wirefall never bothered me either because I never used it.

On a side note, it also annoys me how every big monster has a nova attack where you just hide behind a rock or random tacked on dps check.

>>739574628
Wilds GS suffers from the same thing many other weapons do, which is what I mentioned in my post: You HAVE to spam offsets/counters. No other playstyle feels allowed (you can, but the hunts will take forever). Though I would say the cutoff is 9*. Then early/mid game is complete snoozefest where you just instantly destroy the monster and it never fights back.
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>>739574657
Kys xivie troon
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>>739574814
No shit I don’t own the game, it had a beta
>stutter posting
Yeah your brain is on delay by a decade, out of touch faggot
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>>739572961
>This is the first MH game I played I can actually call bad (started with Tri and played every mainline since).
Wilds is supposedly bad but Tri, the game with the worst roster outside of MH1, the game that REMOVED multiple weapons, the game with the worst gimmick in the entire series is actually good?
>Game is still gray/brown
Looks pretty colourful to me.
>Most of content is game journalist tier difficulty
That's all MH, especially Tri.
>then there is super jump for AT where monsters have 10x the HP and no cooldowns, which force you to just spam offsets with many weapons
Let me guess, you play either GS or hammer.
>Late game is just gog farming
Nobody farms gog, you can meld tarred weapons without ever bothering with him.
>Crafted weapons are the worst, just let us use regular monster weapons
What exactly forbids you from using regular monster weapons?
>Omega (Savage) is an amazing fight though
Ah yes, the one fight in the game that literally doesn't play like a MH fight AND doesn't have cooldowns is amazing but apparently AT mons aren't.
>>739574414
>So your solution is to sit and wait in the tent and I still don't get it then sit and wait in the tent some more
You were plenty fine with rotating quests in Tri but suddenly you're not fine with resetting ingame seasons like other old MH games, CURIOUS!
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>>739574861
>and it never fights back.
Genuinely every single fight in wilds, I’m sorry you have to learn the hard way that you’re an absolutely retarded, braindead, piece of shit
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>>739574814
Wilds is a case of the survivor fallacy. No one with a single working brain cell played milds after launch, no post launch content is hard, the playerbase is just subhuman
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>>739574925
>>Looks pretty colourful to me.
Cherry picking one of the two regions that get any partial saturation during only one specific season feels very disingenuous anon. Try saying the same about Wyveria or the ice map.
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>>739573153
Based, I never used the dog either
>>739573272
It's not that bad, three wirebugs with evade extender make you pretty mobile and the big fixed wirebugs get you places almost as quickly if their placement cooperates (very map specific). Most of the time I just blastdash after the monster though. Biggest downside is you don't get to grab the bing birds or the animal items, but you learn to live without it
In my group of 3 I get to the monster first every time and one of them uses the dog. I don't play with randoms, so that's my limited personal comparison to what I'm (not) missing out on by not using the dog
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>>739572961
I can't imagine playing a "bad game" for almost 100 hours lol.
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>>739575098
>GLfag is mentally impaired
Color me surprised
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>>739575174
Sorry you were raped
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>>739575075
>Cherry picking one of the two regions that get any partial saturation
Literally only the 3DS games were oversaturated because the 3DS was a piece of shit with a terrible display, every other MH has normal colours.
>Try saying the same about Wyveria or the ice map.
I sure will, but lemme guess, some ancient cathedral ruins covered in snow should look like Disneyland, right?
How come you don't complain about actual colourless stuff from old MH like Minegarde?
Oh wait, you must have actually played those games to know.
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>>739574925
>3dsbabs shits on Tri, while knowing just what youtubers tell him a out the game
Low Rank Tri is probably the 3rd hardest low rank in a game not named Dos or simply Monster Hunter
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>>739552231
4U, GU had potential but it took the worst maps from the previous games, the old monsters didn't get updated AIs and feel severely out of place, Hyper is a boring mechanic and no variants, no deviants don't count. Styles and arts were okay though, and I enjoyed playing as a palico
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>>739574923
>>739575048
>I havent played the game but
opinion discarded. do yourself a favour and dont double down on your retardation
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>>739575435
>GU had potential but it took the worst maps from the previous games
Yeah, the gull to include all the maps from 4u
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>>739575227
>Sorry you were raped
Indian coded post
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>Buff af Gore Magala
>Sergeios actually dangerous again after rise nerfed him in Sunbreak with a thousand taunts.
>Mizutsune expanded and given soul seer explosive bubbles while still having a 1 shot
>Lagiacrus given 1 shots and constant “get off me” attacks.
>Gogmazios one shots and oil spam
>come ride heroes ride omega’s dick
Every single person crying “milds” hasn’t played the damn game. The game DOES have terrible difficulty distribution but it does not have an absence of challenging hunts if you want them. You are all dishonest faggots.
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>>739575574
>brings up his race out of nowhere
Why are jeets like this
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>>739575401
>The game with the single most unbalanced version of monster stamina and bullshit like functionally infinite cluster 3 ammo
>one of the hardest low rank games
If you're brain damaged I guess, I started with the first Freedom game fyi
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>>739575171
I had 20 until they fixed the performance (somewhat), I love the series regardless and wanted to experience all the content. As I mentioned: there is still some good in the game, even if it overall is a huge letdown.

>>739574925
>>739575320
Calm down nigger, you're making way too many assumptions about me and putting a lot of words in my mouth I never said.
People do farm gog, you can check SOS's right now. I never said Tri is perfect, it wasn't the subject of discussion. I still use regular weapons because I don't care to farm gog parts, but for some fights they feel like unnecessary handicap since 10*s are balanced around gog (3 3-slot decos is a lot). I play all melee weapons except db (boring) and ls (cringe). You're cherry picking locales with more saturation but those pictures still look super blurry. Omega is good because it uses all the games mechanics well. Oversaturation is also bad. One of those replies weren't even me.
I'm not going to change your mind either way though.
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>>739574861
>No other playstyle feels allowed (you can, but the hunts will take forever).
This has become a problem ever since they tied the hit and run/unsheathe charge playstyle behind Velkhana's unique armor skill. If the game didn't have Velkhana that playstyle is just dead.
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>>739575643
The day they released the souped up Gog was where I saw the most repeatedly failed quests in a long time.
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>>739575445
I have played the game, third world capitalization
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>>739575697
>Doesn't deny being a Jeet
Gottem
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>>739573871
Hey! You aren't allowed to enjoy Rise today because, in case you didn't know, the switch version didn't have allmother narwa for about 2 months when it came out!
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>>739575478
It didn't take all of them though. Volcanic hollow was a fucking mistake though.
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>>739574925
>>739575320
God this game looks terrible. Wilds is such a fucking turd.
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>>739574925
>>739575320
Based Wilds Enjoyer
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>>739575435
>no variants
>no deviants don't count
???????
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>>739576272
>Happy goyim slave cattle day, everyone.
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>>739576251
The deviant monsters aren't variants, simple as that.
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>>739552231
This honestly >>739552324
As much as I hate all nu-MH. Atleast World and Rise lasted for hundreds upon hundreds of hours and I double dipped on both. I barely got over a hundred hours out of Wilds and it was strictly worse than World and Rise.
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>>739575725
>People do farm gog
Yeah, for the armor, and then they forget about it entirely because it's way faster to grind tickets and meld wyvernstones if you want weapons.
Which nobody sane would actually grind for anyway because they'll be obsolete the moment G-Rank drops.
>I never said Tri is perfect, it wasn't the subject of discussion.
You said Wilds is the only game in the series you'd call bad while explicitly stating you started off with the only game in the entire series that went as far as removing multiple weapons in the series, you lost any credibility you had right there and then.
>I still use regular weapons because I don't care to farm gog parts
So where exactly is the issue?
>I play all melee weapons except db (boring) and ls (cringe).
And yet you claimed ATs force you to "spam" offsets, the weakest possible mechanic in Wilds, when some weapons (two of which you just mentioned) don't even have any to begin with.
Of course later on you tried to course correct by mentioning perfect guards, and of course you do not complain at all about previous games like GU or RB being all about actually spamming hunter arts/silkbinds.
>You're cherry picking locales with more saturation but those pictures still look super blurry.
You're the one who cherry picks shit and gets proven wrong, but again, do you want me to remind you how old MH actually looked?
>Omega is good because it uses all the games mechanics well.
Omega is literally built to ignore a sizeable part of the game's mechanics because it does not obey the rules of the game at a baseline.
Omega is THE mon in the game that not only doesn't have cooldowns, some weapons are not even allowed to use their own specific advantages against it like bow being factually unable to use its focus mode to its fullest due to how Omega's wounds work or how weapons that do not have perfect evades/blocks are inherently disadvantaged.
You're a fucking clown.
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>>739552231
Wilds expansion reveal next week, can't wait.
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How do I beat Gogmazios? the last phase it's fucking retarded with he flying and I can´t hit him for shit
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>>739576624
Ayooooo he playin milds, he’s a subhuman loser who will kill himself
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>>739576624
Spam your super slinger and don't die
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>>739576624
Bait it to charge on either side of the arena and drop the giant boulder on top of it's head.
Use the slinger while on your mount to easily reposition in case the floor below you starts exploding.
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>>739576624
You either generally aim for the wings/head or you git gud at aiming and target the tarred weapon spots which is harder but nets you higher damage and stagger.
Just watch out for the tar and then learn the timings and positioning to charge the laser beam, it might take you a couple of tries but it's not that hard.
If the stone platform didn't break you can also largely stand in there and pick up slinger ammo as long as it's still intact as it's sort of a blind spot for tar blobs, you'll also want to lead Gog into the two falling pillars at the ends of the arena because he takes ridiculous damage from those.
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Wilds G Rank expansion monster leak
>Uragaan
>Steel Uragaan
>Crystal Beard Uragaan
>Shining Rock Uragaan
>Pumpkin Uragaan
>Watermelon Uragaan
>EX Uragaan
>No gammoth lol
Don’t tell capcom
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>>739576976
>No Radobaan
Fake
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>>739576863
Samefag
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>>739574187
Gunner armor should be the new 'beta' sets going forward and I'm sad that'll never happen. It's such a waste of cool designs and it's better than having to subject myself to the 'female' version just so my male hunter can show some skin or just want to wear something lighter.

>>739574274
Which part, the actual shooting, ammo maintenance, or just feeling weird that you can't smack the shit out of monsters with a blade or hammer?
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>>739577031
Too old to make the trip from the new world to the east, please understand.
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>>739552231
>loved 4U
>loved GU
>loved World
>liked Iceborne
>liked Rise
>liked Sunbreak
>hate Wilds
How did it come to this?
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mhg so fucking dead you gotta have a melty on v now lmao
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>>739577630
Sasuga milds and the one cuck playing this trash
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>>739577305
I wouldn't mind unisex armor if male hunters got adjustments for that like getting rid of miniskirts, male parts on female hunters are actually pretty good 90% of the times but female parts on male hunters just don't work 90% of the times.
Better than RB at least since that game doesn't even have that, just one armor set for either gender and that's it.
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>>739552231
Wilds.
>b-but my toaster couldn't run it a-and focus mode is b-bad
See gif.
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>>739574713
I stop playing the game because I'm not sitting through RNG to look for a fight. That's bullshit and stupid. The moment things get too RNG heavy my enjoyment drops to near 0 and go play something else. It's how I've approached every MH. Materials being up to chance is one thing, but making full on hunts, weapons, and armor part of the loop is when I'm finished playing because fun's over.

>>739574925
>You were plenty fine with rotating quests in Tri
No I fucking wasn't. I hated it back then too, just as much as I hate that quests rotate in MH1. I hate rotation anything in this series.
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>>739577305
Ammo maintenance, recoil, the feel of needing too many decos/late game gear feel good to play, aiming with a stick, seeing white numbers because of aiming with a stick, feeling weird that you can't smack the shit out of monsters with a blade or hammer. And also the half defense thing, I get why it's there, but you know.
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>>739555280
Vanilla World:
Spam TCS, SAED, Helmbreaker
Iceborne:
Now also spam ZSD and Perfect Rush
2000 hours in World, btw.
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>>739578019
>aiming with stick
Literal skill issue.
You're not wrong on ranged weapons being shitty in design though. I wish we'd get something cool like a large boomerang or something.
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>>739578061
How many of those moves.serve as counters or outright make you invincible?
Rendering any semblance of positioning or timing useless?
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>>739577946
>gif
>filename
Means a bot post, sounds about right for wilds
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>>739578131
>Literal skill issue.
Most likely, I never enjoyed aiming with a stick and thats a huge detriment. Only ranged weapon I did enjoy somewhat was the bow in the older games. Some new ranged archetype would be great but more than anything I want tonfas back.
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2 years from now we will be defending Wilds as the pinnacle of the series. They'll announce a new game and we will doompost it to death until we start saying "It's growing on me".
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>>739577630
Nobody cares about your tranny hugbox
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>>739578325
You can’t make this shit up
>>739578227
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>>739578325
You say that but risebreak still has a colossal hatedom to this day.
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>>739578212
Oh for the love of god shut the fuck up already.
Position started mattering less with World and less weapons have those "counters" than you think and almost none of them can be spammed like you pretend they are because they either have longer bug recharge, cost two bugs, or both.
>>739578227
>posting with a randomized filename means bot
You might be a bigger idiot than the other fuckwit I replied to in this post.
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>>739578325
>we
Whos we?
I still know 4U and GU are the worst dogshit that happened to the series alongside Rise. And nothing will change that.
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Sunbreak is the GOAT.
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>>739578524
>literally two new areas

I wanted more old style like GU........
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>>739578510
Now the bot is flat out confused and making nonsensical posts
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>>739578510
>Position started mattering less with World
*Gu
>less weapons have counters
Atleast 9 of them do. Which is more than enough, some have several too.
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>>739556504
>sub 95 iq
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>>739578573
Go ahead anon. Name them. I want to see your dumbass definition of a counter.
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Base Wilds is better than base world btw
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>>739577868
Risebreak not having beta sets bothered me at first, but I slowly came around to it because they decided to give you more armor sets of all kinds than you know what to do with. Some like the dreamshell set or whatever it's called is basically for gunners between its overall look and the skills attached to it. In general a number of sets in Risebreak were made 'gunner friendly' and look the part which I'm kind of okay with. Would still prefer having gunner sets back completely even if they aren't call as such anymore. There's a lot of good shit we're losing.

>>739578019
Admittedly I had those same issues with guns as well in the beginning, and ultimately I toughed it all out because I wanted to learn them that bad. I want to say what really got me used to ranged weapons was my time in 4U because I did the entirety of LR and HR with nothing but guns and bows and didn't make a single melee weapon until G Rank. Part of it is also the risk. Like yes guns can be some of the most busted weapons in the game, but I'm not a pro, nor am I a minmaxer of any kind, so the fact I can barely survive two hits and I'm possibly dead is part of why I find gunning engaging even in more modern games... barring Wilds. Gunning feels so toothless in that game despite still being stong.
>seeing white numbers because of aiming with a stick
I still can't play with damage numbers. With all the visual vomit the games have now, damage numbers is where I draw the line.
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ITT:
>BAWWWW I just want to do hammer super pound or GS charge attacks whenever the monster is in the process of doing a double 90 degree turn I hate these counters n shieeeet
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>>739578738
That shit looks gay as fuck nigga
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>>739578620
Strongarm Stance
Foresight Slash
Tempered spirit blade
Sacred Sheathe Counter
Metsu Shorygeki
Shrouded Vault
Insta-Block
Anchor Rage
Guard Edge
Water Strike (also trying to introduce magic to the series btw)
Elemental Burst Counter
Counter Peak Performance
Ready Stance
Awakened Kinsect Attack
Advancing Roundslash
Dodgebolt
Wyvern Counter
Counter Charger
You can leave the thread now.
>verif not required
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You can really tell who does and who doesn't play monhan
Yikes!...
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>>739578814
Holy shit it literally is EVERY SINGLE WEAPON
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>>739578814
>whole thing starts with wirebug counters
>lists bunch of non-wirebug counters and stuff that isn't even a fucking counter
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>>739578939
>Every single weapon in Sunbreak has counters
>Even moves added specifically in Sunbreak that didnt return next game
>REEE BUT NO WIREBUGS
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>>739578814
>Awakened Kinsect attack
>advancing round slash
This is some impressive stretching lmao
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I think Wilds is a good game overall but it does have its issues. Personally I can't stand the handler and I think being able to use Seikret in battle causes some balance issues.
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>>739579037
The Insect Glaive in general is cheating
Since thats already god mode
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>>739578795
That's what makes it so good.
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>>739579037
Bro he listed dodgebolt, a literal fucking dodge.
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>>739578736
I wouldn’t say World, but Wilds beats the shit out of base Rise. And this coming from someone who would probably rate Sunbreak as the best “modern” MH.

Overall, I’d probably say;
Sunbreak > World > Wilds > Icebourne >>>>> Rise
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>>739579162
Which works as a perfect parry in monster hunter.
But assuming you aint a fag you dont know about gunner mechanics
Youre welcome
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>>739578738
>but I slowly came around to it because they decided to give you more armor sets of all kinds than you know what to do with
I don't know about that honestly, the vast majority of the sets in RB are just blademaster sets from older games and the newer sets are so so.
>Some like the dreamshell set or whatever it's called is basically for gunners
The Shell Studded set? it's just a lightweight looking set, doesn't even have the old idea of asymmetry and armored left arm that classic gunner sets have, and technically that's what World and Wilds also do, Wilds in particular straight up gives females some old gunner sets like the female seregios set in Wilds being the old female gunner set while the male version is the old male Blademaster set, which would be an interesting compromise if old female gunner sets weren't even more female coded than their old Blademaster sets on average.
All in all it's just crapcom being cheapskates, I honestly don't really care about pendants, season festivals or a gorillion different meal animations, I'd give all of those things up for just staying in World's Alpha and Beta subdivision if they really don't want the Blademaster/Gunner paradigm anymore.
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>>739579174
This nigga likes farming quest levels for the monster to actually become a challenge while having lime 98 skills in his armor so nothing can touch him
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>>739579214
A parry is not a counter. Holy shit.
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>>739578212
>How many of those moves.serve as counters or outright make you invincible?
>>739579287
Anything you want to add?
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Hey guys, did you know superman diving is a counter?
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So just use gunlance then, it has no counters or offsets.
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>>739579495
>conveniently ignlres the fact that the superman dives is both
>not an attack
>doesnt flinch, stagger, or affect the monster
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>>739579562
But anon, guard reload is a thing and that's totally a counter.
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>>739579495
Smartest sunbreak defender trying to deviate the topic after getting fucked
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>>739578738
>barring Wilds. Gunning feels so toothless in that game despite still being stong.
I gave gunner another solid try just yesterday in Wilds, and it felt so... Empty. That's what convinced me the style definitely wasn't for me. I'm just going back to Sunbreak so might try it there again.

>I still can't play with damage numbers.
Fair, but as I do play the GS a lot seeing the big number pop up feels good.
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>>739579126
Go be a homo somewhere else
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>>739579901
Normal 3 LBG is pretty fun Wilds, HBG is all over the place though and Bow might as well be a melee weapon
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>>739579037
Those attacks literally don't even count since tetraseal slash existed. Why would you use any other attack?
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>>739563320
all of these titles and be praised and criticized for different things.
The main difference is that everything pre-5th gen is still Monster Hunter, even if the anime BS got out of line with Gen/GenU
World and onwards is just an inferior simulacrum
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wildjeet defense force really isn't sending their best.
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>>739580352
>The main difference is that everything pre-5th gen is still Monster Hunter
This nigger unironically claiming Gens is classic
Lmao
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>>739580361
At least the brownoid shill who kept spamming his character fucked off.
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>>739552231
Rise is the only good MH game.
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>>739580361
Ever since we lost Gunsword from Lost Planet 2 anon I dont feel lime shitposting
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>>739552324
Wilds is better than base World imo but base World does still have perks over Wilds
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>>739580361
it’s always
>heh you know that older game in the series that everyone likes? it’s actually shit like milds
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>>739552231
Rise
>>739552324
This kek
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>>739580625
>heh you know that older game in the series that everyone likes? it was actually recieved like shit too and subjected to revisionist history by people who only played the completed end of life version after the expansion, and all the fixes and patches after feedback
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>>739580906
See? Exactly lmao, dumb fucking retards no wonder milds sold like shit and has no players
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why don't you guys like wilds?
it's literally World 2
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>>739552231
I've only played Rise thus the last good MH was Generations Ultimate
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>>739561535
Wilds is to far gone. Base rise had issues (at that gay ass rampage mode) but the base game was FUN at least.

Wilds is not even fun so they kind of fucked
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>>739580548
>you can capture endemic life in wilds
>for literally 0 reason
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>>739581297
No reason to be letting you keep endemic life as housepets in World either
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>>739581297
>Pendants, research points, subquests, baits, exchange items, hunter card bullshit etc.
>0 reason
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>>739552231
>Create open world
>But also don't reward exploration and add an auto-run button
why
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>>739581642
They tried to appeal to the fact Monster Hunter was a hunter sim
But they also tried to appeal to the 3ds and rise audience by stripping any content from the game but just fighting monster.
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>>739552231
Granblue Fantasy Relink but Capcom name isn't on it so you niggas will sleep
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>>739581718
>>739581642
And all the cutscenes and talking is just trying to appeal to 4U fags.
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>>739581723
>Censorslop
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>>739580463
Everyone knew better than to reply to him again.
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>>739581760
4U having something resembling a story structure isn't really the same thing as Wilds chasing the walk-and-talk Sony demographic
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>>739581869
Its the next step for it to have a somewhat mattering story
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>>739581642
They tried to appeal to the people who stopped playing World because they found tracking the monster to be tedious in a game about hunting monsters.....instead of.....you know....listening to the people who actually kept playing and put hundreds of hours into the game.
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>>739554726
that's because rise is good and if you like wilds then you're an idiot
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>>739582075
>Rise is good
Yeah if you like rampages and easy as fuck monsters
>ACTUALLY I MEANT SUNBREAK
The most barebones grank expansion where 70% of the content added is just mindlessly grinding levels on the same 2 monsters?
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>>739582231
Why do people nonstop shit on rise for the 2-3 mandatory shitty siege quests but not world for it too?
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>>739582325
Rampages were literally Rise's endgame
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>>739582325
We did but then a schizo started spamming "BING BING WAHOO" everytime world got criticized for a good 5 years
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>>739580404
learn to read
>>739580352
>even if the anime BS got out of line with Gen/GenU
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>rise sold more in the last quarter than milds
how? wilds is supposed to be the new big hit...
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>>739582325
>no one shits on world for the siege quests
WE NEED TO CAPTURE ZORAH MAGDAROS posting rings a bell?
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>>739552761
Why did you even play that, I never even considered that it could be good.
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>>739582408
How brain-damaged do you have to be to actually believe this?
>im only pretending to be retarded!
I ask again.
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>>739582408
Rise was like 90% off
#Return to World
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>>739582408
They sold Rise AND Sunbreak together for like 10 bucks
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>>739582384
No. Not they weren't. At any time ever.
>base game for the first month tho!
Nobody did rampages for endgame because rampage weapons were mediocre for all but 1 weapon. Farming Narwa for parts to meld was the endgame.
After TU1 and later TU2 endgame just became fighting whatever the fuck endgame monster you felt like for their gear or the charm farm. The only relevance rampages had by then was once per apex siege if you REALLY wanted to fight non-emergency apexes in regular quests.
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>>739582006
In the sense that Sony walk-and-talks are an industry trend more than that approach being an inevitability, I do agree but it's not like 4U's story didn't mattered when the Caravan and the mystery of the Caravaneer's Article scale was the entire reason your Hunter was doing anything

If anything I think World and Wilds' plots are incredibly straining in that regard, your Hunter isn't allowed to be a dipshit starting up from nothing, you're already at the assumed entrypoint that the Excitable A-Lister (read: Ace Cadet from 4U) is and there's some Astera blurbs from NPCs about how he tried telling stories of Shagaru Magala and was blown off. You'll never get referred to with an informal nickname like Doodle and build up that kind of rapport with the Guild ever again, you're already starting as big stuff
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>>739582718
You needed rampage tickets for layered sets
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>>739578814
kek, you missed Iai sheath counter and serene pose for LS.
The weapon has 5 fucking counters lmao.

The only weapon missing out on a counter is HH, you only got a HA.
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>>739582718
Rampage Gs, CB and bow I think were the best in game
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>>739582384
No it was not. It was a Narwa farm for 3 weeks then it was Apex and Elder trio for TU1 and the rest of the Apexes and Valstrax for TU2 before month 3. It was never a Rampage endgame.
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>>739581241
Endgame Wilds is fun as hell though, like I’m not sure where this “all is lost nothing will be fun again” bullshit is coming from
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>>739552231
The better question is: what's the hottest monster?
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Evetytime i see a Kirin i cant stop thinking about it sitting on me.
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>>739554934
Nta but I submitted rise speedruns before sunbreak and never beat this faggot, just couldnt be assed to care to participate in the floor is hot lava, hit boxes are hot lava meta. Had more fun bullying soul mitzu and the double metal rates with unupgraded get to see how fast I could get it
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Anyone who say base Rise was easy clearly never fought apex monsters with base game kit.

>tfw AR300 and can kill risen valstrax/shaggy easily apex zino still gives me the most trouble of any monsters
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>>739554934
NTA but Primordial Malzeno is a total clusterfuck, that being said I liked the way he sucked to fight
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>>739583405
Very hot if you ask me.
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>>739583445
>>739583521
>not liking Primal
Wtf is wrong with you? He's the best flagship mon in the series by far.

Once you've fought him a few times and got past the whole "ahhhhhh when is it my turn to attack" phase, you realise everything he does is extremely precise and can be countered or just spaced for decent punish.

Fighting him with bow and basically pure dopamine rush.
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>>739583742
I said I liked the way he sucked anon

MonHun in general loves to spam shit at you and deal 80% of your maxed out HP in a single move as its form of endgame difficulty and Primordial Malzeno is a worthy entry into that category of monster

I love that he's a Lance and S&S
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>>739583742
Its odd because he has very strict combo routes he follows so all people have to do is learn where to stand and where to attack but somehow thats beyond some children ESLs here; which in their defense is a genetic IQ issue.
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>>739583742
Hes easy as shit as long as you dont get greedy with attacks.
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>>739582876
>In the sense that Sony walk-and-talks are an industry trend more than that approach being an inevitability, I do agree but it's not like 4U's story didn't mattered when the Caravan and the mystery of the Caravaneer's Article scale was the entire reason your Hunter was doing anything
>
>If anything I think World and Wilds' plots are incredibly straining in that regard, your Hunter isn't allowed to be a dipshit starting up from nothing, you're already at the assumed entrypoint that the Excitable A-Lister (read: Ace Cadet from 4U) is and there's some Astera blurbs from NPCs about how he tried telling stories of Shagaru Magala and was blown off. You'll never get referred to with an informal nickname like Doodle and build up that kind of rapport with the Guild ever again, you're already starting as big stuff
You didn't play Risebreak
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>>739583908
The only good thing about Rise was the waifus
The only good think about Sunbreak were Switch Scrolls
Summed up
Dont even remember any of the custcenes but I remember the dango lady being useless
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>>739583908
Rise's plot follows the pattern laid by 4U much more closely than World and Wilds' plots do, up to and including your Hunter is brand new to the profession and the first one in Kamura Village to be recognized as a Guild-employed Hunter
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>>739583307
Its a mix of retards trying to fit in with modern /v/ culture and new fans of the MH series thinking it comes packed with endgame content on launch, played it on launch, and then dropped it without ever trying the title updates and still thinks the game is in the same state it was last year
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>>739552231
Just play a real souls game
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>>739584412
>floatier, worse combat with simpler bosses
>but on an adventure map
Not a good tradeoff desu
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>>739584507
>Simpler bosses
NuMH monsters spend 90% of the hunt tripped on the ground lol
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>>739584412
No thanks, I prefer my boss battles to last longer than 2 minutes.
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>>739584412
>roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll
>R1, R1
>rinse and repeat

If I wanted to play overrated slop with shitty combat I'd play Read Dead 2. At least that has a story.
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>>739584785
>staggers yoy with 1 jump slash
Nothing personnel
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Are we really going through MH vs DS again? Can't we just focus on our internal conflict?
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>>739585081
>>739584412
Daily reminder fromsoft went to Capcom to work on MonHun but got relegated to a felyne spinoff
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>>739555294
What was wrong with sunbreak?
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>>739584907
>staggers yoy with 1 jump slash
>Nothing personnel
Making shit up huh
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>>739585206
>Daily reminder fromsoft went to Capcom to work on MonHun but got relegated to a felyne spinoff
Source?
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>>739586590
>Source?
Chill out with the antisemitism.
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>>739552231
Sunbreak, but Wilds has its upsides
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>>739586590
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>>739587601
I don't see Fromsoft name in there
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>>739587676
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>>739587761
Okay now show me the part where Fromsoft went to Capcom and not the other way around.
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>>739552231
Iceborne.
But MHFU remains the best to this day.
>>739572960
Only if you have a physical copy of World from before Iceborne's release and reject all updates. Otherwise you simply watch as monsters are staggered every 20 seconds to offer an opening for a mechanic you don't have access to.
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>>739587892
Literally why would capcom go to the kings field guys to do a patapon spinoff?
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>>739588248
FROM used to work for other publishers relatively regularly back in the days, see things like the Another Century series
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>>739588248
>Literally why would capcom go to the kings field guys to do a patapon spinoff?
So you have no proof then? Lame.
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>>739552231
Sunbreak.
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>>739588051
How are claggers any different than exhaust?
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>>739581790
Who fuck cares people are gonna play it you dumbass mod it back faggot frog
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>>739581723
>Tranimeslop
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>>739588248
What the fuck are you talking about? Fromsoft makes cutesy weird games from time to time, look up the adventures of cookie & cream
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>>739572960
Claggers aren't optional, weapon balance changes aren't optional, weakness exploit skill update isn't optional, I think the clutch claw and the new moves might even be usable without iceborne. You need the updates to play online, and you need to be online to access the dlc and events which have the best armors and weapons and the unique hunts like kulve, safi, behemoth, and maybe fatalis. I haven't tried it myself, since I don't want to pay money for the game again, but I recently read that there is a steam service where you can download any release of a game from a slow backup server. I've been thinking that playing the Japanese 1.0 disc on ps4 is the best way to play it, since then it is at least authentic with flawless controller support, no switch X and O confirm and cancel, free of any dlc and balance updates, and headphone jack on the controller.



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