Name a flaw
1 is better than 3 and I'm sick of people saying otherwise.
>>739553052the camera and platforming
Gay ass name
No air combos and a pretty limited moveset Also the dark soul with LIIIIGHT scene is kino and marveloids who hate anything without shitty quips should kill themselves
>>739553052The FPS underwater section
>>739553052No mission select.
>>739553052It needed an expanded moveset for the existing weapons, and at least one more weapon for variety. Sparda also needed a rework, because getting rid of DT just isn’t a good trade off. Nightmare Beta is also not a good gun either, and Ifrit is completely broken.
>>7395530521.You can only fight 1 enemy type and its buffed version at once like puppet/fetish little lizard/big lizard2.the bug guys are pointless 3.devil trigger gets overpowered4.easily cheesable thanks to granade launcher5.swimming sections 6.hard mode feels unnecessary 7.forced ng+8.shitty gif animation when changing guns which you have to do in the menu
>>739553052one good boss that you fight three timesevery other boss is trash that you fight multiple times except the worst one you luckily only have to fight once
>>739553878For DSD, I think a good gimmick could be its ability to transform, and change up your moveset on the fly DmC, or Balrog’s Kick and Blow Modes from 5. They could take some inspiration Osiris’s moveset, and maybe make an original spear moveset as well the spear mode. I wouldn’t mind if they brought back the combo continuation system from DmC either.
Marionettes are the lamest fodder enemy ever.
>>739555003And still better than every other basic fodder from all future dmc games.
>>739555123No.
>>739553052The controls
>>739554635>DSDI meant DSS.
>>739553052The Space Harrier section. It's the reason I decided to not bother with Bayonetta.
>>739553114I'm right there with you bro. DMC3 is fun, but it fundamentally misses what made DMC1 so great.
>>739555614The shitty gimmick sections?
>>739554529the worst one is nightmare, who you still have to fight 3 times
>>739553230Air combos are honestly cringe and should be removed. You should be forced to stay on the ground where other enemies can actually hit you
>>739553878>Sparda also needed a rework, because getting rid of DT just isn’t a good trade off.I'm guessing it was supposed to be useful against Nightmare and Nobodies who drain your DT anyway, but it's still easier to build it back up than to try to go completely without it.
>people say DMC1 is good but archaic for years even during the 6th console generation>play it for the first time during the pandemic>it's actually one of the best games ever made even within its own seriesAbout the only thing I hate is Nightmare, but outside of that everything flows and works extremely well and makes sense. I loved it and really do need to do another play through.
>>739553052Repeated stages, enemy spawns consist only of 1 enemy at a time, stupid shooting segment final boss.I love DMC1 though.
>>739556117I struggled with Nightmare at first but I enjoy the fights after figuring out the mechanics more after some playthroughs. There's so much going on that it can be a little overwhelming but it ends up feeling like a pretty well designed fight in the end. DMC1 kind of has a lot of that where it can get better each time you replay it especially if you're able to move up to harder difficulties. I also like the swimming and Space Harrier Mundus fight more on subsequent playthroughs. It never bothered me much the first time even though it could feel a little jarring but it helps the game not feel as repetitive when replaying too.
>>739553052it's not a strategy gameit's not a turn-based strategy gameit's not a strategy RPGit's not a real-time strategy gameit's not a strategy JRPGit's not a strategy dating simit's not a strategy porn managent gameit's not an online strategy gameit's not a strategy FPS hybridit's not even DMC 3
>>739556117Nightmare is a bitch no matter what, but he specifically gets more defense when he's hit a certain number of times, so attacks that deal a lot of damage in one hit are better against him.
>>739555981I can't imagine a worse take than this
>>739557031>t. scrub who can only look cool by beating up a single helpless enemy
>>739553230>No air combos and a pretty limited movesetthat's what makes the game good thoughever
I only played DMC1 for the first time ever last year; It instantly made its way onto my top 20 games of all time.I think 3 and 5 were solid, but nowhere near what 1 was doing. Kind of feels a lot like Resident Evil 4 and what that game did for the series.
>>739557031i can kinda understand this reasoning. bayonetta combos are very cool to pull off but you basically are nigh-untouchable doing this, are absolutely raping the enemy, and since you can't pull that shit on bosses it makes them feel lamer than they are. ng4 tried to fix this but i think enemies just parrying you mid-combo casually isn't much better. maybe tie a stagger-like system like sekiro/sifu to every enemy (boss included) that when broken, lets you style on them until they recover? something like what assault spy did with their bosses basically
>>739556628>it's no strategy-good. let the mind rest and give yourself to blind rage once in a while.
>>739558209DMC already effectively has that, it's just not that important once you launch an enemy and make all further positioning considerations irrelevant except wrt landing your enemy steps
>>739558209how about not adding bullshit special states to your game so this isn't a problem to begin with? Looking at flashy combos and particle effects is not good play. the time you take to defeat an enemy should weight on the score much more than retarded shit such as "combo variety"
>>739553052it's hard for low skill player like me
>>739558836are you talking about the first one? regardless i don't recall ever seeing anti-aerial counters or even non-gimmicky staggers on the enemies in any game>>739559121the people demand mad combos over strict time rankings, go back to spamming sonic and persona pics i guess
>>739556117Just use Ifrit.
>>739557560That’s because it used to be RE4 at one point.
>>739553052met some zoomer fucking retard on a discord call who said he couldn't play DMC 1-3 because all of them felt too old and clunky and the entire time he spoke I was imagining if he was aborted and how much better the world would be
>>739553114I prefer 1, the levels were much better, the only decent level design in 3 is before the vampire boss and when you first go into the demon realm, but the inverted castle was cooler.
>>739559392Pretty sure I did. In fact I used Infrit for most things compared to Alastor, but it didn't make Nightmare any less annoying my first go around
>>739553052Not making Dante x Lady official. Tomboy wife supremacy.
>>739559121Yes, every game should be a speedrun. The best video game ever is Clue on PC because it has a very short speedrun.That's not even what he's talking about. There are a few of those cuhrayzee combo games where you knock an enemy into the air and you're basically safe to hit them until they die. Even if you have a meltdown any time someone attacks the same enemy 5 times, you can often use very strong attacks to kill them quickly. This means the part of combat where you actually deal with enemies attacking you just goes away for a moment. There are ways of mitigating this, like the NG4 blocking he mentioned or enemies that can still hit you while you're doing a combo, but DMC5 doesn't really have anything in place to prevent it.
I appreciate 1 more and more as I play it. I got filtered hard as a kid by Phantom and dropped it and the series. I tried years later and got filtered again, moved onto others. Went back and got filtered yet again after Nelo 1. Finally went back and beat it on the fourth time, very salty and angry. Tried it a fifth time and fell in love with it. I rank it as the second best DMC now, behind 5.
>>739556004It’s still just a bad trade off, like you said, you can still build up DT fast enough, and extra damage and increased range of certain attacks just isn’t a proper substitute for Alastor’s abilities, or even Ifrit. There are also items you get that cost DT, so getting rid of it for the Sparda makes no sense.
>>739553052Can't change guns on the fly. I really shouldn't have to go into the menu every time I want to change guns. Also the lock on can be a bit weird. Most of the time for me it works but sometimes it picks an enemy I don't want to it and the lack of a lock on circle/indicator is a bit annoying. Mainly the issue shows up when fighting against nightmare and trying to hit the rune switches on the walls.>>739553230>No air combosGet better with vortex>>739553878I wouldn't say it needs it but if/when DMC 1 gets a remake I want Alastor, Sparda, force edge, and Yamato to get different moves. Fucking sucked that rebellion and sparda in 5 had the same moveset, fucking bullshit.
>>739557390git wacky wahoo>>739558209>absolutely raping the enemythat's the goal yes
>>739553052I liked it a lot, but I became too burned out to play the other games after getting S-rank plus all secret missions on my first playthrough.
>>739559909>DMC5 doesn't really have anything in place to prevent it.It does, there are some enemies that are almost impossible to launch and other that teleport away when you launch them. Hell Judeccas and IIRC also Baphomets can also hit you while you're airborne
>>739560030Sparda, much like its counterpart in DMC1, actually does more damage, and has more range. So while the moves are the same, it’s a direct upgrade over Rebellion.
>>739560279There are so many teleporting enemies in dmc5 it's fucking criminal.
>>739559843Itsuno likes Tomboys, Kamiya likes mommy gfs, if there is a new dude(from Capcom) what the hell may he be into?
>>739553052Shit camera, completely unmotivated and pointless space harrier segment out of fucking nowhere, half backed combat system (compared to DMC3 onward), bad Dante (though better than DmC's Donte).
>>739560352I understand that but it's been like 18 years between 1 and 5 so couldn't they do something a bit new with Sparda or reuse something from how Trish used it?
>>739560529When you mean bad Dante you mean gameplay wise or personally wise?
>>739560030I think Force Edge’s purpose is that it’s useless until it becomes DSD. Yamato should definitely get its typical moveset from 3 and onwards though. I also think should be necessary inclusions, because DMC is ultimately a game where you fight stylishly, and having more tools and moves at your disposal can only help in that regard, especially since DMC1 has such a limited moveset.
>>739560656Damnit, I meant DSS, not DSD. Why does this keep happening?
>>739553052very cheap feeling. it's a PS1 game on a PS2.
No mission select and fighting the same bosses again and again.And probably my least favourite otherworld section.
>>739560643I just don't like the voice, me.
>>739560558Simple, they focused too much on Devil Sword Dante instead, and left the Sparda in the dust because of it. Ultimately, I think they could’ve done more to flesh it out, either through introducing some of Trish’s moves, or creating new scythe and spear moves, but that might’ve cut into Balrog and King Cerberus’ niches. Would’ve been nice to see some of Nevan or Osiris’ moves make a return though.
>>739553114DMC3 >>> DMC1 >>>>>>> DMC4 >>>>> DmC >> DMC2I don’t make the rules. Most people will agree DMC3 is better than DMC1 because it’s simply more fun. If you think otherwise, you’re just being a contrarian
>>739559909Yes, every game should enforce long combos. The best video game ever is DmC because it has a must style mode.See? I can make disingenous retarded arguments too.The point of scoring is to have some formalized objective metric of play, so that players can decide to go for it and do better. Time as an important scoring parameter rewards aggressive players and push them to take risks, which is much better than memorizing patterns to do long combos.Being airborne is a special state, games should either equip enemies to deal with it or remove it entirely, because otherwise it does nothing to make the game better other than pleasing redditors doing le epic styling on ragdolls
>>739560656>I think Force Edge’s purpose is that it’s useless until it becomes DSDAuto correct or just a habit that makes you type out DSD? Either way I would like for force edge to be a bit more distinct than Alastor moveset wise(even give force edge it's own DT after Dante gets Alastor) or hell give Dante the option to dual wield it with Alastor.>Yamato should definitely get its typical moveset from 3 and onwards though.Would be cool. >I also think should be necessary inclusions, because DMC is ultimately a game where you fight stylishly, and having more tools and moves at your disposal can only help in that regard, especially since DMC1 has such a limited moveset.I like variety. Is it weird that I would like if there was more equipment like the bangel of time in a 1 remake? Like a piece of equipment that gives Doopleganger, or a shield like DMC 3 ultimate, or trickster/trick or some new stuff I can't imagine.That or just give Dante his 4-6 styles.>>739560903I thinks his voice his fine.
>>739553052Weapon variety sucks cockBosses don't turn into Devil ArmsYou have to fight every boss 3 times instead of 1Can't manually select missions and difficultyEnemies don't have health bars Resident Evil fixed camera anglesSmall af Resident Evil locationsPants on the head retarded controls that you can't customizeFirst person swimming sectionsDevil Trigger turns Dante into a demon only when performing attacksOne tauntOne alternative outfitNo Yûji Shimomura's over the top stylish and creative cutscenesNo gallery modeNo library modeNo training modeNo playable Trish
>>739553052Grenade launcher, and perhaps others lock you into an animation when firing. This is a half demon who one hand spams a sawn off, recoil should be a null issue.Needle gun underwater sections were weird, but you couldn't use needle gun out of water if you liked it.Ifruit gloves were a joke to play with, we all know LITERALLY EVERYONE used Alister or demon edge. Don't even fucking lie.Hard mode breaks your controller because firing a pistol needs 500 presses a minute to be worth a shit. This isn't difficulty, this is tedium and turbo button fodder.Curl scene fighting moondus you get kod by red spikes that you otherwise tank without flinching Fill your dark soul with LiGht=s
>>739561418>First person swimming sectionsI stopped playing DMC1 when i got to this part. The more i think about it, the more i realize DMC3 is the only good game in this series, lmao.
>>739561418Only a few reasons why this game is so based
>>739561652Nah, its still good for sure, but being the first, they tried a lot, and it was originally supposed to be a resident evil game. Did quite good
>>739553052The camera, Nightmare as a whole, grenade launcher is broken, the swimming sections were unnecessary.
>>739561418>I want more Bosses phases! bad game!>I want less Bosses phases! bad game!>controls are bad! No, I won't elaborate!>there's only one taunt (actually two) (actually you'll say it doesn't count)update your pasta
>>739561418You're really pushing with some of these,might as well include "the game doesn't suck my dick and only gives me hand jobs"
>>739561336My finger slipped, and I didn’t check before I posted. Doppelgänger and Quicksilver could definitely be fun additions, along with the other Styles. I’d definitely like to see the inclusion of some old forgotten moves, like Wild Stomp, Free Ride, along with unlockables like Rebellion, and more unlockable outfits for Dante than just the Sparda outfit.
>>739561418You can’t use Nelo Angelo’s Sword unless you’re DT’d as Corrupt Vergil in DMC3 SE.
>>739562105If you think the underwater section is a handjob, you’re a masochist.
>>739562060the same 3 bosses over and over is lazy
>>739561792Camera's only bad in a few spots but the game was wrestling with its origins and what it wanted to be. Nightmare is great and very well designed, the cores are a genius idea. GL is only broken due to an exploit, you can cancel shotgun reloads and alastor combos in a similar way. No one likes the swimming but they last about a minute combined.
>>739562441It's like 10 minutes and easy as fuck,I don't know why this is the most common complaint.My complain are the shadows that don't fit the stiff controls and the nightmare boss
>>739553052>Name a flawCamera is complete shit. Second fight with girffon has the worst camera I've ever experienced in a video game.
>>739553878>and Ifrit is completely broken.The only thing that keeps it from being absurdly broken is that you can't do Air Hike with it. >>739562493>Nightmare is great and very well designedSay that again after suffering through the 3rd fight.
>>739561297>Time as an important scoring parameter rewards aggressive players and push them to take risks, which is much better than memorizing patternsGoing for a low clear time is generally called speedrunning, which is way more focused on memorization than playing to keep the style meter high. We're both talking about the extremes, some moron at AGDQ enacting a rehearsed sequence of idiots and someone making a combo video that doesn't really show off how the game is usually played. Time can be a reasonable metric sometimes, like you mentioned as a way to push people to be more aggressive. Style meters encourage people to use a decent variety of moves and not get hit but max out without having to perfectly memorize how to fill them.DMC does generally value time. DMC3 puts the player's clear time for the mission on screen and gives them a ranking for it. That isn't the only thing ranked because someone who got a quick clear time by dumping Holy Waters on everything doesn't deserve a good rank. They can enjoy playing the game once getting Ds on every mission and then go back to Minecraft.
>>739561418 also Touhou level before real fight with Mundus Space Harrier level at the end No styles like Swordmaster, Gunslinger, Trickster, Royal Guard, Quicksilver, and Dark Slayer No fast on the fly weapon switching Secret Missions don't have a visual indicator and it's impossible to find them without a guide Shitty trivial missions that last 2 minutes 23 missions instead of 20 Constant backtracking
>>739562182Okay but do you think the style switching system as it is in 4,5, and 3 Switch edition or should it work more like equipment slots?>like Wild Stomp, Free RideI still don't get why those moves were dropped off 3. Same with point blank after doing a shot gun stringer.>more unlockable outfits for Dante than just the Sparda outfit.That would be welcomed. Though I would be more in favor of unlocking Trish and Nelo Angelo as playable characters.Also a bloody palace, must style mode, and a normal boss rush mode would be welcomed.You believe in the DMC 1 remake "leak"?
Will the Remake add Lady to the plot or neh?
1)Needing to hold R1 to shoot2)No type of royal guard type counter or at least a dodge (rolling doesnt count)3)Final boss battle is kinda wonkyOther than that games perfectDMC3 biggest fault is being unable to switch styles on the fly and the camera being WAY too close
>>739563758It would be interesting to see what was Lady up to while Dante was at Mallet Island. Especially with killing Arkham still fresh in her mind.
>>739562978>backtrackingYeah DMC3 and 4 don't have any of that. Faggot
>>739553052It Gave us four shitty games that came after it, instead of a second Devil may cry
>>739553052Heh I just started this on the switch 2. What am I in for /v/ros?
>>739563806Needing to whole down R1 to shoot when on the ground. It’s weird that you can fire freely without locking on when in the air.Also it feels weird that you can't roll forward in DMC games.Also I'm pretty sure you can parry some moves with your melee swings.
>>739564002>It Gave us four shitty games that came after it,Yeah, DmC, DMC2, DMC4, DMC5, right?
>>739564010Fun.
>>739564291damn thats five , i didnt even think of the spin-off
>>739564382Fuck add the third actually now thats six, fuck the blood-gargoyles
>>739563758Probably not. At best an unlockable bonus character.>>739563914It's DMC 1 10 years after DMC 3? Like shit is traumatic and emotional but I wouldn’t call it fresh it there is a 10 year gap.
Devil May Cry turned into a different series with 3, a model that stuck with 4, DmC and 5 so far. 2 is in a weird in-between.DMC1, despite it's limitations, is one of a kind. So no point in really trying to compare 1 to the others directly just because they share a name and main character. Whoever likes 1 for what it offers won't find most of it in the other games.It's more reasonable to compare 3, 4 and 5.
>>739553052Nightmare 3 is a bit of a bitch (mainly due to camera + small room).
>>739553052Nothing, it's the ultimate DMC game>>739553114Absolutely
>>739563459I think they tie some of them to items, like the Bangle of Time, and how it was basically Quicksilver before Quicksilver. Maybe include a Doppelgänger Item too, while the other Styles remain as things you can swap between on the fly. Trish and Nelo be unlockable characters too, since they already have full movesets and everything, along with the other difficulties, Bloody Palace, and Must Style. Turbo, LDK, HoH, HaH, expanded Taunts, and DT affected moves like DT Stinger are also inclusions I’d love to see. I’m not sure if we’re going to get a DMC1 Remake, but I think it’s certainly possible. Capcom has said that DMC is one of the IP they want to pay more attention to in one of their meetings recently, and they put it up there with Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Mega Man, and others. I’m just hoping that we get some kind of announcement soon, since it’s been almost 10 years since 5.
>>739564501It's not fresh as in recent, but her dad killed her mom and then she killed him. That's going to stick in her mind.
>>739553052the swimming bits are a bit shit and weapon swapping is too slow
You will play forced walking sections in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will love space harrier levels in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will backtrack for SSS scores in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will insta-die during QTE cutscenes in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will mash button prompts in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will enjoy platforming in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will fight giant bosses on floating ledges in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will have stealth sections in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will watch unskippable cutscenes in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will ride a motorcycle in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will not be explained core gameplay mechanics in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will not have Bloody Palace unlocked for beating the game in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will accept gimmicks like Blade Mode and Witch Time in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will escort NPCs in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will avoid lava floor in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will hunt for collectibles in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will cook items in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will fight reused and reskinned bosses in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will praise copy-pasted stages in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will stomach Trish mommy dominatrix fetish in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will laugh at my own self-references in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will eat bugs in my Devil May Cry 1 Remake
>>739559843>Not making Dante x Lady official.That doesn't make sense. Kamiya canon will always be Dante x Trish. Don't you believe, see the Dante mode in Viewtiful Joe
>>739564434How the fuck can it be six?
>>739564579>It's more reasonable to compare 3, 4 and 53 is the most polished and has the best presentation, 4 arguably has the best combat but shit enemies and bosses, and 5 has nothing going for it.Overall DMC 3 wins.
>>739564832Good to see discordtroons are mad, though I don't know why they hate DMC
>>739559843this. /thread
>>739564916I miscounted I meant the spin-off 2,3,4,5 , that's five total
>>739553052>cali, but US: >:(>cali, but Japan: > :)You guys know he was modeled after Anthony Kiedies right?
>>739564942>and 5 has nothing going for it.I know everyone hate them now because that jobber put them into the anime, but Vergil memes were kino.
>>739564347Basado
>>739562978>No styles like Swordmaster, Gunslinger, Trickster, Royal Guard, Quicksilver, and Dark Slayer>No fast on the fly weapon switchingI completely disagree. One of the best things of DMC1 is teaching you how to use every single weapon for a specific purpose. DMC4 and DMC5 commited the fatal sin of having Dante switch constantly betweetn devil triggers, which will dilute the use and purpose of all the weapons. In comparison, while imperfect and the root of this problem, DMC3 forced you to choose between one style and certain weapon, which was way better.
>>739563758I doubt it, she's not a character Kamiya created. And we would get in the middle of Trish and Dante. Honestly, I think is better if the remake or DMC Zero completely ignore everything about Dante and Itsuno May Cry lore.
>>739553052I want to have sex with Dante but he's fictional.
>>739564832Everything of what you just said sounds great>You will stomach Trish mommy dominatrix fetish in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeStomach? That's one of my favorite parts. It's literally Joseph Joestar x Lisa Lisa. Doesn't get better than that.
>>739554374Forced ng+?
>>739565034Bullshit, you're hiding a devil may cry game from us anon
>>739553052Grenade launcher is too OP
>>739564942>shit enemies???Is this another "they weren't designed for Dante" schizo thing?
>>739555646So you've never played 3 then
from the first game?the shit last fightand the cringe phrase i forgot at the end
>>739553052people will complain about the underwater mission when it literally lasts 4 minutes when you know how to navigate it. every "bad" aspect of DMC1 that was put in for a pace change is infinitely more preferable than some of the utter dogshit you'll fight in some of the later games, especially some of the shit in DMC3's DMD. yeah sorry i'd rather do Mundus 1 on DMD than Arkham on DMD.
>>739564832Tahkn you Kamiya sir.
>>739565435NTA. IIRC 4 had some annoying enemy types, but at least they weren't complete punching bags like almost everything in 5.I think the game's incentive to make SSS style combos are too opposed with actually fighting things that hit back and really want to defeat you.
>>739553052Game needed proper autofire for space harrier section, I don't want tendinitis to do okay damage.
Kamiya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItsunoLet's rock baby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wahooo Pizzas
>>739565539I remember thinking Devil May Cry was the coolest shit ever.
>>739565539Dante Must Die was perfect in DMC1, no other sequel did justice for that dificulty mode
>>739565539i bet you complain about bayonetta harrier missions
wtf is a harrier missionan on-rails shooter segment?
>>739564291correct
>>739564002Indeed>>739564291Yeah
>>739564832>You will have stealth sections in my Devil May Cry 1 Remakewhen did Kamiya ever do something like this
>>739564832>You will stomach Trish mommy dominatrix fetish in my Devil May Cry 1 Remakebut that was happening already without him
>>739556004i have never had Nightmare or Nobodies ever drain my DT unless I really took my sweet ass time
>>739564832>You will enjoy platforming in my Devil May Cry 1 Remakedmc4 and 5 already have those but you are a retarded crapcum blind fanboy
>>739565143>being stylish in a series that’s about being stylish is bad
>>739564832I'm simply not playing Devil May Cry Demake.
>>739566164It becomes bad when it dillutes the gameplay enough and even impacts how braindead the AI and bosses became so you can "be stylish".DMC3 was a little annoying with only a single style and 2 weapons until you reached a checkpoint statue, but it had focus.
>>739565564The only shit enemies I can think of are the chimera lizards. The rest were ok, I don't mind annoying enemies that feel dangerous and hit you often IF you play bad. The chimera lizards were just kind of ass to fight because they simply hopped around all over the place while being a moving hitbox.>I think the game's incentive to make SSS style combos are too opposed with actually fighting things that hit back and really want to defeat you.I agree. I liked getting SSS way more when you perform a crritical kill in DMC1 or the rare DMC4 instance.
>>739565283>It's literally Joseph Joestar x Lisa Lisa.Lisa was in no way a domme outside of the training arc, she was a jobber.
>>739565601Kamiya despises people like you.
>>739565564Tell me you never played DMD on 5 without telling me.
>>739564993Anthony Kiedies & Yulia Volkova
>>739566460Hard mode in 2 will also own you despite the guns 2 win memes.
>>739566460i dont replay shit games
>>739566552>Yulia VolkovaDamn, i just learned she's a mudshark and bogged herself :( RIP
>>739566609I know it’s hard. I already completed 2. I also know that gun meme is just made up, and that you deal more damage in melee than with gun.
>>739565143>DMC3 forced you to choose between one style and certain weapon, which was way better.Styles were obviously Itsuno's way of adding "different characters" (like in a beat em up) while under pressure of staying on budget and deadlines. DMC 2 had multiple characters already and they were obviously unfinished. He didn't want to publish another half baked product, so he compromised and then only added Vergil for the special edition. And Dante wasn't supposed to be playable in the reworked DMC4 in the first place.
>>739566612Why’d you replay 1?
>>739566164Buttom mashing is anything but stylish, going back to DMC3, each style had a specific mechanic that helped you the player reach rank S. In DMC1 you were rewarded by using the right tool and the right technique at the exact moment, for example, attacking the weak point of the enemy with Ifrit or Alastor, you could reach rank S by doing a couple of right moves instead of switching constantly.
>>739566989why are you blind?
>>739566339And Trish is defeated by Dante and Mundus. I don't see the problem.
>>739565807The mission when you're in the biplane. Harrier is likely coined from the game space harrrier a game from SEGA. Speaking of which you should definitely go play Space Harrier. Amazing game.
>>739566357What a BIG surprise. I hope for your sake you have something inside that big body of yours.Kamiya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Itsuno
>>739567145>Speaking of which you should definitely go play Space Harrier. Amazing game.Calm down Kamiya
>>739567145Cool. I think I played that one in a arcade in Yakuza games.
>>739567145he is underage, of course he never played space harrier
>>739566964Wrong. Style switching was intended from the beginning, but because of the hardware and processing limitations, they couldn’t implement it in the way they intended. This was stated in the 3124 Artbook, and was present as a mechanic in old beta footage. It’s also why the Switch port came with a style switching mode. Take your schizophrenic headcanons elsewhere.
>>739567191
>>739567191It’s the other way around, cretin. Kamiya said it himself.
>>739567191>Kamiya: Itsuno is better at making games, kill yourself insectHe really said this, btw
>>739564942How can you prop up DMC3's enemies over DMC4's enemies? The ones in 3 are total dogshit. 4 has some duds, but most of them are fun and have more than a single attack each.
>>739567495I don’t like all of his games, but if there’s one thing I can always respect Kamiya for, it’s how surprisingly humble he is when compared to other game devs. He consistently shows respect to Mikami, Itsuno, Kojima, and other devs, and always puts them above himself and defends them when people bad talk them. I also hope that the Okami sequel goes well.
>>739567495>>739567504>>739567624Kamiya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Itsuno Flock off, feather face, or you can stick around and find out the hard way!
>cumbersome weapon swapping>some horrifically dogshit camera anglesbesides that i cant think of anything
>>739568173https://x.com/HidekiKamiya_X/status/2040691955286540314
>>739565368Devil may cry 6
>>739568525Itsuno>>>>kamiya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>insect>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trash>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YouI guess that settles it.
Why is he bitchless and childless? Vergil has a son.
>>739565034>>739565368PoC?
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>>739568790What kind of bitch is that?
I don't believe Dante and Virgil are Sparda's only offspring. He's 2000 years old. He surely has full-blooded demon children and descendants in Fortuna.
>>739568993As long as you need them for a plot device, they will exist. Rest easy.
>>739568790>"This whole town will know you call for your mommy in your sleep"KWAB, she got 'em good
>>739553052I couldn't get into it. I don't remember it well enough to say exactly why but I thought it was gay and never came back to it.
Vergil had a sad life. He sought power his whole life. He was a slave to Mundus. He has no one and will be lonely forever
>>739569349He had time to fuck someone and have a kid.
>>739568905Kerry, from the DMC1 Prequel Novel. She picked up an unconscious Dante, who went by Tony Redgrave at the time, after a drinking contest with Gilver, an imperfect clone of Vergil. She tried to fuck him while he was passed out and see if the rumors were true about him having a big dick, but stopped because he was having night terrors about Eva dying, and started sobbing in his sleep, which turned her off. Dante implies this isn’t the first time this happened, and it’s why he never goes steady with any of the girls he shacks up with.
>>739569349At least he's not a debtor virgin like Dante
>>739569349He’s got his bubby to keep him company, and a son. That should be enough.
>>739569447Why would he have sex with a human if he hates humans?It was a mistake to make Nero Vergil's son. Nero could have been a descendant of Sparda.
>>739569183Not really, since he doesn’t care what people think about him.
>>739569652Nero should've been Dante's kid
>>739569564Vergil is homeless and jobless.
>>739569564Dante isn’t a virgin either.
>>739553052Never got a proper sequel.
>>739569695>Not really, since he doesn’t care what people think about him.He does, he's just acting tough
>>739569729It's fine, you don't need a job or a home if you can get sex without them already.
>>739569757>Dante isn’t a virgin either.Oh really, where does he have sex in the games?
Dante read porn
I got dmc5 because it was dirt cheap. I have to play with this chud Nero and he only has one evolver and a sword, plus the arm thingies.When do I get to play as Dante? I thought this was like DMC3.
>>739570128Nero is the protagonist now, chuddie
>>739570185I figured it would be the case because he's on the main title screen.But it's so weird because he plays so limited compared to Dante and now he's the main character?
>>739553052i would probably be called okay to bad in games (i love exploiting and cheating in games because god mode is more fun for me, and challenge is retarded and for people with easy lives who need escapism to face struggle), and i dont understand the nightmare hate. nightmare 1 was fucking awful and it took me like 30 tries to beat him, but after i did i knew exactly how to do it so i beat nightmare 2 and 3 first try.
>>739569943Dante definitely had sex with the whores.
>>739569652>>739569721Where was it ever stated that Vergil, the ultimate mommy’s boy, hated humans when he had a human mother? And if anything, I think Nero makes less sense as a Dante kid. Ever since we’ve seen his depiction in 3, Vergil has been someone who barely keeps his temper and emotions under control. He’ll scream when he doesn’t get his way, and starts spamming Helm Breakers when he’s close to defeat. This meant to contrast with Dante, who puts up a facade of being a goofball while being a lot more coolheaded and competent than people realize. Nero is meant to be like Vergil, but without the veneer of coolness, along with him throwing away everything in the pursuit of power, which leads him being deeply emotional, and guided by his love for Kyrie.
Why'd they make the series about Vergil's daddy issues instead of each game being a cool demon-slaying contract Dante got?There's all this background lore about that old black guy, his devil may cry company and all the games since 3 are just about going after Vergil or something. Did 2 buckbreak Capcom so bad?
Devil May Cry, the lone game, is the series. Unfortunately it suffered the "5 Curse", where normalfags will play and latch onto the 5th game (which is always the newest and most accessible) and base everything around that game when it comes to the older games, and cause any remakes to be affected by the "5" demographic.Other games to suffer the 5 Curse are: Persona, Metal Gear Solid (V counts as 5, I don't care.), Grand Theft Auto, The Elder Scrolls.
>>739570950>demonic hoardsAds were ESL even back then?
>>739570128>>739570221You’ll play as Dante later. Nero actually has a ton of variety because of the new Devil Breakers, which you’re encouraged to use and dispose of. They vary in use, so mess around with them to see what works for you as you unlock them. There’s also the Exceed System, which lets you rev up your sword for more damage, and different animations on higher tiers. You can unlock higher tiers using Nico’s Van, and a skill that restores a certain amount of Exceed after pressing the Rev button at a certain time in between your combos, and can got of to Level 3 if you time it perfectly.
>>739568525Kamiya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItsunoStrange and ironic that it'll end the same way.
>>739570221Nero is half tutorial character before you play as Dante who is way more complex to play as, but half fun in his own rightHe can also do a few things Dante can't do like the EXceed system and more importantly his enemy grab
>>739561282fun is subjective
>>739553052Weapon Switching is slow And also some of the secret missions are actually the most retarded things in the entire series. I will never forgive kamiya for that Underwater Blade one
>>739571036Conglaturations, you figured it out.
>>739570871Ironic because that's what we've got with Nero and Nico in DMCV. Their own adventure while dante and vergil figure out their mommie issues.
£4 per DMC game on switch is kinda bullshit when the trilogy is £6 on every other platform >:(
>>739570871That's what 4 was. The game had almost nothing to do with Vergil. Also kinda what 2 wasBut yeah, admittedly, Writers have a needless aversion to doing stories that don't develop the characters
>>739553052Dante is so dreaming...
>Need to menu to switch guns>Non-existent gun balance since Grenade Launcher mostly outclasses everything else>3 swords with the same moveset (4 if LDK), only one is worth using>Griffon is not fun in any of his fights>Nightmare's core breaking mechanic where once it goes red it takes much less damage, so you're pretty much forced to use Ifrit otherwise he'll take too long to die in later fights>Only one enemy type per room>Bad camera angles here and here>Mundus 1 is trash
>>739568676Dante is too busy running a respectable business all by himself and trying to pay bills and taxes to have a family. Vergil is a slut and a bum, of course he had enough free time to have sex but not enough money and time to raise his own child or pay child support.
>>739569652He's tsundere. I bet he kept saying "it's not like I like you or anything, b-baka" to his girlfriend while cumming inside until she got pregnant.
>>739553052Not gothic/atmospheric enough
Combos based on what position you are holding the analogic with a shit camera.
>>739569943The Novels, which are canon, say that he has.
>>739572904>>739573108Dan said that Vergil would only have sex with a woman he was genuinely in love with.
>>739573547He's still a slut because he didn't marry her before having sex with her.
>>739565365When you beat the game, it immediately starts up a new game on the next difficulty. No main menu or anything
>>739565365There's no mission select or anything, and after the last mission it goes to the first mission on a higher difficulty but retains any character upgrades you had. It's not forced at all, but it is the expected next thing to do after beating the game.
>>739564501>>739564753Best way to go balls deep for DMC lore if I only have DMC 1,2 , and 3 for the Switch 2? As in, I am really interested in the lore and want to know and play more, and not just read/watch it online? Currently like 4 hour atm in Dmc1
>>739553052>posts gay cowboy porn>"Name a flaw"Idunno, I guess you really got us.
While it was a cool idea, proccing some of the enemy file note things on some enemies is a complete pain in the fucking ass.
>>739571704they are on sale rn anon!
>>739575158You already game the games to know most of the lore, get DMC4 as well then play them. To get a little deeper read the 3-1-2-4 Complete Works artbook.
>>739561418I wonder what devil arms they will turn in the remake
>>739576751I mean, one is super obvious.
>>739576751If they bother they'll just repurpose the existing weapons to be obtained from thematically matching bosses (you get Ifrit from Phantom, Alastor from Griffon, Nightmare Beta from Nightmare, etc)They don't even have to do anything with Vergil since Force Edge becoming Sparda already happens when you beat him in the original game
>>739577474that would go against the series' tradition. Devil Arms are always named after the killed demons
>>739553052Uncontrollable Camera + moves based on the character's position in relation to that camera!Oh wait that's DMC3.
>>739576042Same anon here, do I play them in release order?
>>739577626You're not playing these game for lore or story. If that's what you want, go find some CRPG
>>739575158>Best way to go balls deep for DMC lore if I only have DMC 1,2 , and 3 for the Switch 2?Read the item description and enemy files. Also something something DMC 1 novel is a prequel to 1, dmc 2 prequel novel, DMC 3 prequel manga, and 2007 anime. The openings of 1&3 pretty much explain the bare necessities.
>>739577626Yes. It's not chronological but it's not exactly a hard puzzle. DMC2 used to be banished at the end of the timeline due to irrelevant lore. Until 5 came at least.
>>739577916Does anyone actually care about DMC 2's story?
>>739578056Not really.
>>739577560Originally in 3, the Demons either had to admit defeat, and agree to work with Dante of their own volition in order to become Devil Arms, or get beaten so badly that they fall into despair and submit in Beowulf’s case. That’s why none of the Demons in 4 became Devil Arms too, since Dante just killed them outright. 5 goes against this with Cavalier, but he might operate on different rules due to being one of the Angelos, which are made artificially, and I’m pretty sure King Cerberus just completely submits like Beowulf.
>>739578532Devil Arms in DMC4 don't have bosses, and bosses that you do fight (3 fucking times) don't turn into Devil Arms because DMC4 is an unfinished piece of shit
>>739578945You’re unfinished.
>>739569652Same reason Dio has five kids. Just because they have a complex (in Vergil's cause likely of the mom variety) I wouldn't be surprised there was a moment of weakness where he wound up in bed with a woman. Like she can't have known he was the son of Sparda, yet somehow managed to say all the right things to Vergil of all fucking people and get him to unload his demon seed.
DMC3 ruined the series.
>>739578945abligatoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn_Lrfs86t0
>>739566875This is what women actually want tho. Fuck disgusting nigger out of spite. This is also the direction DMC is going to take: Nero being divorce raped, all the girls getting blacked.
>>739553052Some of the camera angles could be better. It's also probably a little bit too easy to trivialize certain enemy types. Button mashing to use the handguns gets old quick, though I generally found the shotgun and grenade launcher more useful anyway, especially the shotgun. The nightmare beta is a bit weak.
>>739569652>Why would he have sex with a human if he hates humans?Vergil doesn't hate humans, he hates the humanity in himself as he sees it as weakness. He's for the most part indifferent to humanity as a whole, at least pre 5Also that lady in red wasn't human
Camera, slow to change weapons because you have to use menu, and not being able to replay missions + secret missions on main menu are my only complaints.
>Fight Griffon 3>For some reason the camera decides to do a complete 180, gets stuck like that, and I can't see a goddamn thing he's doing.
>>739553052The Mundus Space Harrier Crap. Kamiya is obsessed with it.
>>739553052I fucking hate the parasite fights>>739553230>Also the dark soul with LIIIIGHT scene is kino and marveloids who hate anything without shitty quips should kill themselvesbased beyond belief
>>739553052A mission select would have been helpful for practising certain missions. Still a great game. I never beat DMD back on the originals but here was my HD collection first playthroughs. Will go back sometime to S rank everything.
>>739583238Damn, man. This brings back so many memories.Kids at school back then telling Dante Must Die has fucking hard as shit, per namesake.I missed the current sale for the HD collection, just arrived home. Too bad
>>739553052It isn't fun to play and has pointless mashing Enemies have too much HPDoing combos isn't natural or fun Bosses are too hard
>>739583372>Missed Games are almost always on sale. I have never bought a digital game outside of a sale. You just need to go outside Steam
>>739553052Normal mode is kinda boring and I didn't feel like playing on the higher difficulties after I beat it
the enemies don't really do all that much.
>>739553619did people really get hung up on this? Its gimmicky but it lasts like all of two minutes
>>739553052The genre it inspired doesn’t have enough games
>>739554374>.shitty gif animation when changing guns which you have to do in the menufuck you its awesome
>>739553052DMC1 definitely captured the "devil hunter" gameplay best with the enemy files and simpler combat, weak points and shit like that. VA was better too
