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>>739554641
Dumbass nihilist who came to the high school shower philosophy thought of net-null.
>can't be any suffering in the world if there's no one suffering!
Doesn't help he was deluded by his entire race to be a dipshit.
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He was gay.
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>>739554641
say what you want about him or his character design but his robe looked REALLY comfy to play video games in
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>>739554641
He was an actual retard.
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>>739554641
wanted your bussy
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he wanted to see more guado
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>>739554641
Kid with a shitty life decides it would be better if everyone fucked off to the afterlife and lived forever as cool ghosts.
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>>739554641
>*starts performing a sending dance on you*
lol
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>>739554784
you didn't refute his claim
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I always thought he was an allegory for surpressing homosexual thoughts.
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>>739554641
He did it for Isr* I mean Guado.
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>>739554641
Religious zealot who uses their justifications of death being the ideal state for Spira to mask his sociopathic hatred of the world due to a fucked-up childhood. He wants to BE Sin so he can use its power to just destroy the world.
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>>739554641
>his mom is the only person who loves him
>kills herself to give her son "strength"
However retarded seymour's actions or motives, it is unironically not his fault
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>>739554641
He was horny
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Mommy issues, I thought this was clear.
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>biracial freak lashes out at the world
It keeps happening
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>>739556540
His claim was he should kill everyone and you BTFO his ass in game you he definitely was disproven
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How will guado ever pay for the genocide of 6 million ronso?
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>>739554641
>mother is a human who fucks the leader of a weird, reclusive race of elves
>has a halfbreed son
>nobody in elf society appreciates this, hate her and hate her son
>son grows up a virtual outcast through no fault of his own
>when his mother becomes terminally ill she decides the best way to make people love him is to go on Pilgrimage
>so he can kill himself to defeat Sin
>8 year old Seymour managed to get all the way to the very end and finds out he also has to sacrifice his mother, at her urging
>turns her into an aeon but then gives up the Pilgrimage, locks her fayth away, mans the fuck up and goes back home to weather his people's hatred
>comes out of the whole experience thoroughly fucked up and decides the best thing for everyone is to just be dead, none of this "false hope" shit that Yevon peddles, Spira is just full of needless, endless suffering and putting everyone out of their misery is the best thing to do
TLDR: Mommy issues
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>>739563063
seymour never meets yunalesca, his mom already knows the secret from his father
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>>739564798
One of the spirits in the Zanarkand Dome is Seymour and his mother. Of course he met Yunalesca. Anima is Seymour's Final Aeon.
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>>739565168
Anima is AN Aeon, but not the Final Aeon. The Final Aeon is a specific Aeon that can destroy Sin's pyrefly-composed body, Anima is not strong enough to do that. But you are right that he went to Zanarkand for that, only Yunalesca knows how to turn people into new Fayth.
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>>739554641
dei hire
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>>739559706
guaido are too tall to be asians. i like to think of them as anglos
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>>739554641
He saw things plainly and simply.
>People in Spira live in constant fear of death
>Unsent are already dead and cannot die again, therefore they have no need to fear death
>So I will become Sin and kill everybody, turning them into Unsent, thus saving the world
He never considered the possibility of just defeating Sin for good. It would make his own experiences and despair meaningless.
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>>739565457
The only qualifier for the Final Aeon is that it's someone the Summoner has a close bond to, like a parent or lover. Anima's first appearance when used by Seymour is utterly demolishing a stadium full of fiends with the bare minimum of effort. Even Yuna comments on how ridiculously powerful it is. When used by Yuna that bond isn't there and Anima is just another aeon.
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>>739565774
And this isn't to say Seymour isn't evil, cause he does shit like kill Kinoc and give the go-ahead for Operation Mi'hen despite knowing Sin would just kill everyone involved there, but it's interesting that the main "evil" villain isn't doing things for his own perverse selfish desires, but from a warped and twisted desire to still help people and save the world.
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>>739566149
That's just because Seymour is just that much stronger than Yuna at that point. When you face him in Macalania Temple Yuna's new Aeon Shiva is able to ice his Anima no problem. The party takes forever to beat Sinspawn Gui during Operation Mi'hen, but Seymour can easily delete it out of existence without even getting close to his Overdrive.
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>>739565774
>Unsent are already dead and cannot die again
The Unsent are all driven by some powerful desire that lets them persist in undeath but if they lose that drive they can't carry on.

>>739566165
Operation Mi'hen was approved by Yevon specifically to remind people that the Al'Bhed are heathens who can't stop Sin and only the Grand Summoners and the Teachings do
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AAAAAAAAAAH I LIVE IN A COMFY CAVE GROTTO NEXT TO A BEAUTIFUL LAKE WITH THUNDERSTORMS NEARBY LIFE IS NOTHING BUT MISERY
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dont hate on seymour, the third or fourth time he came back from the dead was kino
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>>739554641
His mom made him turn her into a massive summonable beast at age 10. He knew sin always comes back to kill so why not kill everyone first so sin has nothing to kill? Makes sense in a world where when you die you literally just become an immortal spirit. So why not die?
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>>739566797
>hen you die you literally just become an immortal spirit
The vast majority of people who die violent deaths, like the ones from Sin rolling up out of nowhere and flattening their village, turn into fiends. People who accept their deaths just die and don't need to be sent. Very few become immortal ghosts.
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>>739554641
Batshit insane mother who killed herself in front of him for no fucking reason.
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>>739567000
Natural selection.
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>>739554641
Half breed mongel who got treated like shit, and when he finally found the girl he wanted to marry, got cucked by a normal human.

I'd murder the universe too if I was him desu

Tidus canonically pounded Yuna
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>>739567068
>Tidus canonically pounded Yuna
while Kimahri watched
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>>739554641
Did you miss the whole point of the true face of Yevon?
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I think the people were retarded for settling down next to the ocean when sin exists
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>>739567068
>when he finally found the girl he wanted to marry, got cucked by a dream of the fayth
FTFY
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They wanted to try and pull off another Sephiroth and it didn't work.
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>>739567192
Thanks, forgot that part.
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>>739554641
He was a part of a shitty game, it happens
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>>739567185
Sin sticks to the oceans because its primary purpose is to keep people away from Dream Zanarkand. It can fly. It would have no issue going inland to kill people if it felt threatened by them.
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>be Seymour
>know summoner girl for decades
>treat her special
>hope she never has to go on her journey and die
>one day she comes back with a group of friends
>one of them is different, not what he appears
>propose to her and try to change her fate give her happy life
>get rejected
>learn it is because of that one being
>gets killed by her too
>then resurrects and tries to marry her
>watch her jump to her death rather than marry him
>both him and his mother were treated like garbage
lol this nigga was so mad he came back 4 times
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>>739554641
his dad hated him
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>>739567467
>know summoner girl for decades
Seymour's barely older than Yuna and she's 17. They meet for the first time at Mi'hen.
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>>739567467
>hope she never has to go on her journey and die
He wanted to sacrifice her to become Sin.
>one of them is different, not what he appears
He also figured Auron was unsent.
>both him and his mother were treated like garbage
And he acted like garbage, but its all the guadonigs fault
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Fighting Seymour for admitting to killing his dad was retarded it was none of their business and he was in the right
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>>739566639
>Comes back after Yunalesca is dead and he has no chance of becoming Sin anymore
>"Haha I'll just figure out how to control it from the inside! Isn't it weird in here? Now die!!!"
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>>739567467
pretty sure seymour was trying to trick yuna into loving him so he would become the next candidate for her final aeon and in turn become sin. he never wanted her to stop her pilgrimage, he wanted her to continue it but for his own sake instead.
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>>739567929
How does a forced wedding threatening her friends "trick" her? lol
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>>739567185
Sin's an Aeon of the Gravity element. It can fly if it needs to. Gravija is one of its basic attacks. Giga-Graviton is capable of shattering the entire planet.
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>>739568073
>>739567308
True but we never saw Sin fucking up the highly populated areas surely it would have been safer to go inland or live in Luca
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I like Tidus. Cloud fucking sucks.
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>>739567929
Yes, this was his entire plan. He needed to be someone important to Yuna to be a candidate for the Final Aeon, and he knew damn well that he'd become Sin through it, and the strain of Yu Yevon taking that bond away would kill Yuna. Marrying Yuna would qualify for all that.
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>>739568202
You mean Cloud in everything except the original FF7
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>>739568017
that was when the facade dropped, they did already kill him once. i was referring to the proposal where seymour makes his initial play, saying she may continue her pilgrimage but dangling the wedding being a hallmark for the people of spira in front of her. after the point she kills him once, yuna was in a hostage situation where seymour was gonna drag her to yunalesca. shotgun wedding and a shotgun final summoning.
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>>739568184
Jecht still has some control over Sin during the events of the game and says he's losing himself fully to Yu Yevon when you finally meet him. He's trying not to slaughter people but there's only so much he can do.
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>>739567862
He was a Maester of Yevon and the leader of the guado, plus Jyscal told them he was a threat to the world and needed to be put down.
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>>739554641
>issue
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>>739568184
Wakka mentions that Luca isn't any different from other cities, it's just the one that has the Blitzball stadium, so it gets rebuilt far more elaborately than others. Sin fucks up Kilika because he's instinctively following Jecht's desire to watch over Tidus, and so following him.
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>>739554641
>>739568378
Looking back now that hair was pretty fuckin ridiculous
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>>739568305
yuna is stronger than me, woulda been sucking this charming guado mfers dick
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>>739568683
used to think he had a weird potbelly until i realized his shirt was just poofy
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seymour drip

>>739568807
you and me both
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>>739568683
he definitely was set up to be the perfect knight on a white horse. famous guy, paragon of your faith, offers to solve every single one of your problems. turns out he was the literal biggest parasite in the world. yes actually, since he became sin's parasite, he's biggest simply by scale. irony huh
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>>739568931
He didn't need to be hot though, that;s a creative directors decision
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>>739568683
you will never be a woman
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>>739569226
i'm happy being a fag
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>>739569105
all main ff villains are supermodels. its part of his contract, though whether he's the main villain is debatable.
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>>739569476
Jekt is hot too.....the little spirit creating sin though was a kid so not him ig
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>>739569525
>the little spirit creating sin though was a kid so not him ig
What? That kid is Bahamut's Fayth. The Fayth all have a shared, collective consciousness, so the Fayth can spend time in Dream Zanarkand if they so choose.
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thinly veiled seymour gooner thread
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>>739554641
Interracial inferiority complex.
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>>739569627
>Jecht and Tidus are basically generated faythslop
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>>739569627
>>739569525
yeah, yu yevon never appears at all before his final fight. he is a noncharacter and you glean his story completely indirectly.
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>>739567164
Suteki da ne
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this guadonigga was seething
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>>739561725
He was the protagonist. The players party had no idea what they were doing and just lucked into defeating sin.
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>>739569916
I wish the ronso genocide was televised and not offscreen
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Dead incel
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>>739570047
why do you hate blue cats?
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I like how "official" explanations for phenomena are really just Spira's low-tech way of understanding because they've been blasted into a technological stasis. For example Sin doesn't actually emit a toxin, it's just that its body is comprised of ultra-high dense pyreflies maintained by powerful Gravity magic. Exposure to these pyreflies causes disorientation, hallucinations, and memory loss. So the "toxin" is actually just mako poisoning.
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>>739554641
This nigga was kinda grating for how many times he gets in your way despite having nothing to do with the main plot. It's like 70% through development they realized there's no villain actively opposing the party so they just quickly made up something.
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>>739570814
he's a consistent presence from Luca til Zanarkand (and in Sin)
he's not Sin sure but im not sure how much more he could be included.
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>>739571029
His third and fourth boss fights are so blatantly shoehorned in, with no buildup to them and no purpose in the story.
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>>739572864
>third
Shock value mostly, but also to show you that he's still not dealt with, and a constant threat.

>fourth
Resolution to his story, cause by that point he can't become Sin anymore. The game points out that until someone Sends him, he's still gonna be a thorn in Spira's side.
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>>739554641

Yuna was making a move, he had to get it on
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>>739573554
He should've been sent at the end of Bevelle. They just casually forget he was even there when they leave after his fight.
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>>739554641
He was a closeted faggot
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>>739575067
Yuna was going to send him but they got interrupted by the maesters
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>>739569916
The worst part was, if you lose, you have to watch a long ass unskippable cutscene again.
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>>739554641
>>739568378
>Demaester Seymour



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