>While the actor “welcomes’ critique, Marathon’s hate campaign from players has not involved any constructive criticism. “Critique the game? Critique my work? Totally acceptable,” he said. “But there’s people that go on Twitter and post memes: ‘This is Concord 2, this is Concord 2.’ Why are you spending hours doing this … How do you hope something fails?”>“I saw some guy like, I don’t want to get into specifics, but they’re just like, ‘I hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor toldWhy are gamers like this?
>>739554948>And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’Do these people think we're all retarded?In what universe do they think white people can't be woke?
>>739554948modern day gaming community is incredibly toxic. a bunch of entitled brats actively harming the very hobby they claim to love.
>>739554948Saying they stole their design principles from a nobody that stole from the designer's republic is critique.
>>739555082And it's at an all time high of toxicity mixed with extremely low intelligence. Worst kind of mix !
>>739554948But I don't want to play this game... ?
>>739554948>is the game bad? no it must be a hate campaign that led 90% of the playerbase to quit not even a month inRiveting argument as always
>>739554948I honestly don't get it, man. How can so-called gamers wish for a game to fail? Do they not want new games to keep releasing or new things being tried?People were, and still are, hating on this game without ever having playing it or intending to. I can't understand it.
>>739554948we root for games to fail because it is the only way the industry changes. You LITERALLY cannot buy enough of a good game to get the industry to change. Expedition 33 and BG3 won GOTY and sold like gangbusters and have nothing but good press. There will not be a AAA copy of these games, possibly ever. If a single player game sells well, the suits just see it as a bonus, not as a sign to change.However, games FAILING is often what leads to change. Basically, shareholders and execs care more about losing money than they care about trying to make good games. As in, major flops scare them so much they change. Unfortunately as part of this, people lose their jobs which is total bullshit, by the way. These EXECS need to lose their jobs, but they always get another one.This is basically like saying if you want a war to end, Civilian casualties are gonna happen. It just is. Like if you try to win a war by not killing any innocent civilians then I think you're not going to win because collateral damage is a part of it. In the war against live service gacha GaaS slop people will lose their jobs but hopefully it will create a more sustainable gaming future where they won't feel unemployment hanging over their heads.
>>739554948He definitely makes a very strong point. It really is sad that the gaming community has devolved into such a toxic environment that hates on every single game the moment they show a single flaw and constantly prays on the downfall of a game studio after listening to the words of a random stranger or not even giving the game a try for themselves.I guarantee you that if people had been a bit more respectful towards such games like Marathon and didn't blindly follow forced hate trains, the entire gaming industry would be in a much, much healthier state than it is currently.
>>739554948this same faggot will them go on to do this to anyone slightly right of their time insane leftist ideologies. This faggot has tons of shit hating in the rightFucken hypocrite faggot. I want these devs dead
>>739554948maybe don't make it so that it's more fun hating on the game than playing it thoughbeit
>>739554948>GaymurrsIt's their own fanbase lol literally all the destiny dads they fucked over by blowing 4 billion dollars on mid extraction shooter and causing D2 to be discontinued with no D3 in production
>>739554948If you stuff wokietokens into gaming, you aren't white.
I root for the death of all western game studios and game devs.They are all, without fail, like this.As such, they all deserve to fail.
>>739554948
>>739554948ah yes, it's the gamers fault once again. Totally not the woke ideologue devs hating their own audience
>>739555573>hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor told
>>739554948>And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’Wtf does that have to do with anything? What does this person think 'woke' means?
>>739555658>leftist pretending not to understandalways the same playbook
>>739555658So long as these people don't get it, they'll keep getting raped by my closing of my wallet.
dont care how much you cry i will hate every western wokeshit until it goes bankruptJust see Ubisoft and Bungie, my plan is working
>>739554948People only pretend to hate it because it's a playstation game. The whole outrage over marathon is performative.
>>739555082you like marathon?
>game flops on its own merits>ACK! HATE CAMPAIGN!every time
>>739554948Pretending not to understand things thus making discourse impossible
>>739555658i like how he pretends that DEI is just some made up right wing bullshithttps://bungie.fandom.com/wiki/Inclusion_clubs
>>739555082Stop making gay games and people will stop giving you shit for making things gay
>>739555857he's pretending not to understand the discussion, thereby making discussion impossible
>>739555014Kind of yes. Being white is an original sin to them. Just because you're an ally doesn't mean they won't think you're evil.
>>739554948Soon as the "online trolls" cope articles started being written I knew this piece of shit was dead
>>739555857They do the same thing if you point out the declining white population in western countries, even though census data is publicly available they just pretend it's a right wing conspiracy
I'm glad all these shitty gaming journo rags are now going to be fucked by Google turning their search engine into an AIslop engine and the owners of these rags only paying out per (non-adblocked) click.It's beautiful to see it all burning.
On one hand, online communities are called the vocal minority by developers. Small communities on 4chan/reddit/w.e else that are considered insignificant on the whole market scale and as such are not catered toYet for some reason these small niche communities, according to the same devs, are able to completely sway the market that they also have no influence over but only when it's a negative thing and somehow ruins the reception of the game.
>you are only allowed to like the game okay? dont speak bad of it onlinefuck off, you can't even pretend to not know why people wanted it to fail (because it's already a complete failure) when that is your immediate response to any negative comment about itcurious how the almost cultist "positive" behavior doesn't get addressed even though it's also a big part of the issue
Because I hate modern video games and the developers behind them as much as they hate me. If you make some gay ass slop like marathon then i hope the game fails and you cant make games anymore.I really hope them, and their families go hungry.
>>739554948They need a scapegoat for how and why Bungie pissed billions of dollars from Sony down the drain.Of course they're not going to accept responsibility for their actions, when they can just blame a nebulous group of racist, misogynistic, transphobic sexist incel gamer nazies.
>>739554948>they assume its /v/ but its actually ex bungie devs who want them to crash and burnlol lmao
>>739556120At the core it's pure emotional reasoning, and since positive vibes feel good, no one is gonna stop it, let alone consider if it's real.
>>739555285Chuds, they are a tiny minority of insignificant loser incels we should all laugh at, but they somehow can prevent millions of people from buying your game/watching your movie.
>>739554948>I’m working with four white guys and two white womenMexicans aren’t white, and troons aren’t women
Hi, am wok and I still hope bungie dies
>>739555386
>>739554948i hope it fails and they lose their jobs because they refuse to support linux battleye for no reason. i dont even use linux but fuck that pigheaded bullshit.
>>739554948maratroon is sad more than nanetheng
>>739555804>IT’S DA CHOOOOODS!!!
>>739554948I can't help it, whenever my Marathon detector goes off I run into the nearest house, find the person playing Marathon and destroy their PC or console or what have you, it doesn't matter. After my work is done I continue my ever-vigilant patrol. I'll destroy 1,000 PS5s before I let even one person get away with playing Marathon!
>>739554948>critique my product>noooooooooooooo not like that!!!!!!!>they... they just randomly hate me for no reason!Embarrassing.
i dont get it... there are literal millions of libtard leftis faggots, why are they not playing their woke game? why are chuds the target audience?
>>739556531they genuinely think like this
>>739556723>b-b-ban steam chart threads!!!! WE HAVE PLAYER RETENTION LALALALALALALA CANT HEAR YOU
>>739555658>I'm working with three white he she's and two danger hairs with BLM tattoos and I'm like where's the woke?
Just a daily reminder that Sony paid $3.6 billion for Bungie. Just remember this information. I still dont understand this... was it money laundering or something?
>>739554948> And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’”And yet you refuse to talk about the credits. Curious!
>>739556745Yeah. "The right" aka anyone who's not a neo-marxist terrorist tried to have peaceful debates with them for 15 years straight, while they did nothing but call for out genocide and cancel us everywhere. And when the most mild cuckservative imaginable gets shot in the throat in public, they directly wish for it to happen to at least half the population of the US. Before, they at least pretended to only want to kill "dangerous people like Trump", but with Kirk, they admitted that they just want to kill you for not being in their cult, that they're actual ISIS jihadis.And to this day, they're not repenting in the slightest, they keep mocking him and saying it was deserved and they want to do it to us, they want to butcher us in front of our families like Joel or Homelander. I have stopped pretending those are human beings many years ago, they're entities of pure evil.
>>739554948>make a concord>get angry when your game gets called a concordAlso didn't Marathon start AS an Overwatch clone and got retooled as Marathon?
You'd think the modern audience would offset any internet hate machine campaigns at this point. Where's the discord server? Why aren't they playing?
>>739556701How can you destroy that many PS5s if they haven't been sold.
>>739554948>voice directorgood luck finding a real job after they lay off your useless ass lmao
>>739556992Too busy grooming any kid that steps into the server
>>739554948What if I *enjoy* hate?
>>739554948It's funny how quickly leftroon shills stopped caring about the art plagiarism once "chuds" started saying "this game is woke."Now they're ready to die for a product backed by a multibillion dollar corporation.
>>739556969for real man, i dont really care about charlie kirk but many dangerhair people were cheering in public like how /b/tards laugh a jeet getting splattered by a train… except gorefreaks do it anonymously in rekt threads. they were doing it on their public social medias like it’s totally normal. but we’re the “chuds” right, the sewer dwelling freaks because we dont want unmitigated white replacement.
>>739554948>"people just want to hate">always having to dance around the woke shit that keeps getting forced into gamesCAN THESE FAGGOTS LOSE THEIR JOBS AND GET OUT OF MY FUCKING HOBBY ALREADY?
>>739554948>>739555014That retard immediately jumped to skin colour and thinks he isn't racist. I hope he never gets another job
I assume a good chunk of it is demoralization/fatigue propaganda shit desu, honest grievances get buried in a deluge of retardation that feel like dishonest caricatures of human beans.
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>>739557197Leftists en masse unironically went picrel. They're enemies of mankind, malevolent entities in a literal death cult that seeks to destroy all of reality and life from the top down. It's why they hate every positive quality and every show of righteous strength. They genuinely want to make everything so bad and dysgenic that life becomes impossible and everyone dies. It's why they LOVE the idea of "humanity is bad and we'll all die!" but if you say you only want certain groups of "humans" to die, suddenly you're le evil.
>>739554948I can appreciate like an indie dev making these complaints, because gamers are absolutely unreasonable a lot of the time.But not from shit like Marathon.>why are you all so mad at the gigacorporation that's ruining everything, and our completely uninspired slop game where ever single decision is designed to gouge as much money out of you as possible, and anybody with an interesting idea was fired out of a canon into the sunGee, I wonder why people are mad.It's too bad that individuals can often catch the brunt of this given that they still need to work and these abject garbage games are the main gig in town, but if the economy wasn't in shambles I would suggest people never work on these kinds of projects if they can help it.
>>739557291>skin colourRace.
*Diarrhea Sputtering*
>>739554948He is wrong. This is Concord 3.
>>739555082>a bunch of entitled brats actively harming the very hobby they claim to loveBut enough about modern game devs
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>>739557534I don’t see the issue? A stable 10k is fantastic for a niche hardcore extraction shooterAnd Destiny will be dead soon, of course people want to say it goodbye
>>739557696>A stable 10k is fantastic for a niche hardcore extraction shooterThat cost over $200 million to make from a major developer not aiming to make anything niche? No, it is not.
>>739557597but Chudda, I didn't even pay mind to this game
>>739557696the number keeps getting lower everytime you say niche hardcore extraction shooter
>>739557476Nah, they unironically call middle eastern faggots white too.
>>73955769610k is fine for a studio the size of wardog's developers. they literally said that btw.10k is not fine for a studio the size of bungie. with 800 people currently employed. and some soon to be let go. even if they let go half of their studio, 10k concurrence will still kill them.
>>739557597TERRORIST!
>>739557806>That cost over made up numbers and chud seething The game already sold close to 3M copies, it already made its budget back
>>739555014>How could I be leftist? I'm only working with white people!This is LITERALLY how leftists think and only proves everyone right for calling them out on their leftist ideology.
>>739554948Don't you just love it when they went from "define woke" to desperately trying to convince you that they're not woke?
>>739557927>The game already sold close to 3M copiesAnon, the game is $40.Are you so dumb that you can't do 40*3 (not even taking into account the 30% platform cut)?
>>739554948You'd think they'd want to know why there weren't a ton of sales and there's a massive player count drop-off for an online multiplayer game. The character designs are repulsive, and it generally feels like Tarkov was popular so you did that but slapped the name of another game on it, pissing off the people who wanted a Marathon sequel and otherwise seeming like a totally new IP that people must decide if they want to get into.
>>7395579271.2 million, and Marathon needs 6 million to break even.
>>739554948If you make a good game, it doesn’t matter if it’s also woke. I defy anyone to name a good game that failed because of woke shit.
>>739557927With math skills like that you're on a fast track to being a game company CEO
>>739557696D2 has had an all time peak more than three times larger, and its daily and current numbers have always been higher than Marathon. It is much easier and more rewarding to play, you can just roll in and after the tutorials you can fight some players of go kill a horde of varied enemies in a much larger variety of environments.
>>739554948>Do nothing but take from them everything
>>739556012The conspiracy is that it's deliberately happening due to external influence, reality is that we as a race are too self centered to commit and devote ourselves to another and to start a family.
>>739555350People have been praying for the downfall of Bungie before Marathon.
>>739558272kek
>>739555014The same universe where you retards think non-white = woke. This whole playing dumb shit is pathetic. You know exactly what point the actor was making.
>>7395580741.2M was in the first two weeks, do you seriously think they haven’t sold any single copy after that?
Oh shit, they are here. It was a fun thread while it lasted boys
>>73955792770% of the games population is on Steam. It maaayybe sold 1 million on steam leaving the rest split between consoles. 2 million is a stretch. 3 is an outright lie
>>739558386>The same universe where you retards think non-white = woke.Yea, that's why everyone says every Japanese, Chinese, and Korean game is woke, since they're all non-white.
>>739554948>While the actor “welcomes’ critique,Doubt
>>739557091AI might replace voice actors, but it'll be a while before they replace their manager. Someone's gotta enter the prompts and review the output.
>>739557534>holiday>still almost nobody playing itEmbarrassing
>>739558281>we as a race
>>739554948Bullshit. people just want good games/movies/entertainment. (picrel) dont provide any.
>>739554948>spend the last 10 years hating gamers>be surprised when they hate you backNo shit...
>>739556891Can't be money laundering since that requires profit
>>739558386The only anon with a brain>>739558446This is because conservative white men worship Asian women like sex objects + self-hating east Asians don't like to portray their own race accurately.
>>739555082sounds like what deihire leftoid would say
>>739555904Literally Jewish playbook shit. They don't even realize they do it
>>739554948The lesson with Marathon is don't EVER come out the gate catering to troons. All of the online negativity started with the first cinematic trailer featuring that tranny coded stealth hero. Seriously its their own fault for the game failing by catering to troons. Any goodwill the game had going in was completely vaporized. Poof...all goodwill gone in an instant by catering to troons.
>>739557420>but if you say you only want certain groups of "humans" to die, suddenly you're le evil.Did you not read the thread? Lefties say they only want certain groups of "humans" to die (they use the scare quotes too) - conservatives.
>>739558496retard
>>739555874>Stop making white games and people will stop giving you shit for making things whiteHorseshoe theory
>>739558446>the subtle cameltoe on the left onemercy
>>739558708The people who give people shit for making things white don't have any money, so their bitching is kind of irrelevant.
>>739555082damn if its that bad maybe you should fuck off to another hobby
>>739558439a new 2.2M estimate was published at the end of april by the same analitic that said saros sold 300k and i don't see anyone disputing that. on the matter of rates, saros sold 300k and has 6k ps5 rates, while marathon has over 12k, so it is a simple estimative to say marathon sold 600k on the ps5, and if the ps5 is (confirmed) to be about 20% of the total sales then marathon sold more than 2.9 million copies, minimum.
>>739558749You do realize the entire reason this thread exists, has 100+ replies, and you are replying to me is because of your concern over these "woke" devs, right? They seem very relevant and influential for good reason.
>>739558631>tranny codedHow?
>>739558749>don't have any moneyIn every other thread you tell us those same people control the world and decide what games get made.
I only play chinese games
>>739559050>because of your concern over these "woke" devs, right?I wonder why you'd do such a disingenuous thing as misrepresenting the context of the OP and the thread itself?
>>739559060You play as non binary shells
>>739554948>people just want to hateThey just want to play good games, journopedo…
>>739554948>>739555658I thought that tribe didn't consider themselves white?
>>739559230You mean sexless? No genitals at all isn't trans.
>>739555014Fpbp
>>739558589Cope
>>739558281>my fellow whites
>>739554948>Marathon’s hate campaign from players has not involved any constructive criticismEX-FUCKING-SCUSE ME?!? the game was delayed indefinitely before launch due solely to the fact that every single playtest they conducted resulted in identical feedback that the gameplay was alright but as a whole the game was worse than other extraction shooters on the market such as tarkov and arc raiders and that the testers would play those games over marathon. Bungie then ran out of dev time and was forced to finally release the game which unsurprisingly is still worse than other extraction shooters on the market like tarkov and arc raiders and players have gone back to those games after checking out marathon. the writing was on the wall for literally years before launch and people still pretend this reception caught everyone off guard.
>>739554948I just hate them because they are leftists.
>>739559703Why TF didn't they just make a campaign along with the multiplayer?
>>739559703>EX-FUCKING-SCUSE ME?go back
>>739554948>the 6 white people I worked with represent the entirety of a company with 1,000+ employeeswhat a fucking retard, now I hope his career dies on top of marathon flopping.
>>739554948>waaaah no one wants to grind for months for battle passes anymore waaaah
>>739554948still not playing it
>>739558631Chuds are just intimidated by strong independent trans-womyn of color.
>>739559790go back to your mother's fetid womb. come back after you look up what fetid means and while doing so consider how you'd feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning while visualizing an apple in your mind. >inb4 chimpout
>>739554948What hate campaign? Nobody talks about this shit game outside of /v/ and Bungie forums besides Paul Tassi.
>>739554948>“But there’s people that go on Twitter and post memes: ‘This is Concord 2, this is Concord 2.’ Why are you spending hours doing this … How do you hope something fails?”Because it is fun.
>>739558589No, it's because Korean and Japanese games don't make women ugly on purpose because they think the male gaze is evil or something.
>>739559158Huh?People say that about Jews, not random woke retards on the internet, we all know the latter are just useful idiots.
>>739554948While I'm sure Marathon is repugnant dogshit regardless doesn't make him wrong.
>>739558386>I work with white trannies who hate white people I’m not woke!Yeah great point. Hope these troons get mugged and killed by some Venezuelans or something some night.
>>739558967the 2.2m estimate was players, not copies sold. And according to some people, it included at least some days of the Server Slam, which was basically an Open Beta
>>739554948I tried it and the art was so fucking disgusting I had to switch it off.
isn't it funny how every unsuccessful game apparently has an organized hate campaign behind it led by a miniscule group of 4chan incels that apparently did widespread damage
>>739559060If you can't pick up on the constant gay and trans coding being stuffed into modern western media then you are either an autist that doesn't have the innate ability to see it or you're a gaslighting leftoid LARPing like it isn't there.
>>739555332>Expedition 33 and BG3 won GOTY and sold like gangbusters and have nothing but good press. There will not be a AAA copy of these gamesThey themselves are the AAA copy. BG3 is Divinity: Original Sin with an AAA budget.E33 is literally a homage to the big budget Final Fantasy games, on a very similar budget. (Albeit ~25 years down the track)
>>739558281Too much porn + female entitlement
>>739555350He does not make a strong point. They chose a side and they were quite militant about it. If they miscalculated the amount of hate they would get thats their problem.
>>739559158Yeah but they are a small group of people. There's a reason why hyper woke games always fail or underperform.
>>739554948yes i want to hate the game and i want marathon to fail but its not really personal against anyone involved on my end i just want the industry to undergo change and it wont unless these gaudy aaa productions that appeal to everybody and nobody start flopping
>we will spread our massage even if we go bankrupt>*bankrupts*>no no wait not like thisrest in piss Bungie retards
>>739554948I dunno, just make a normal game maybe. Hundreds of others managed before you, why couldn't you.
>>739560182>They chose a side and they were quite militant about it.This.Western devs picked their side a decade ago, they don't get to try and renege on that now that the economy is shit and they're all losing their jobs.It almost makes me wish I'd actually voted for Trump just so I could say I voted for this, fuck these people.
>>739560221lmao
>>739554948They right, I'm dismissing the game outright.
>>739560262>I dunno, just make a normal game maybe.it has great reviews on steam, and it is cirtically acclaimed.
I have yet to encounter one piece of promotional material for Marathon outside of /v/. I don’t even know what the game is or who is making it. I’m assuming its another hero shooter gacha royale? Why are you fags shilling this so hard?
>>739554948what do you say we all stop the "hate" and hop on good ole marathon for a blast?WHO'S WITH ME?!
>>739560540>pretending to be retardedits 2026 anon
>>739560507>it has [buzzwords] and it is [more buzzwords]Okay cool, have you tried making a good game though?
>>739559189disgusting
>>739560659it sounds like you are just coping
I'd have more sympathy if this message wasn't also directed at people who have been strenuously pointing out where the problems with this game are that aren't just "it's woke cuck shit". These people are very quick to dismiss any criticism with "there's these right wing trolls right here that are making a lot of noise about something like a character being ugly or non revealing or a black person or something similar". It has become a scapegoat at this point. Let me remind you that the very reason we're in this position today is because a group of people made it abundantly clear that it was wrong to release games because of equally superficial horseshit like "this game objectifies women" or "there's too many bald space marines in there". We all like to talk about how discourse is dead because of the right wingers moaning about the "DEIs" and the "wokies" but every now and then you'll find some passive aggressive lefty moaning about a game not having a female lead character or being "too historically accurate" by just randomly looking at youtube recommendations on dogshit videogame essays. The biases go both fucking ways here.
these threads are always an excellent insight into the 2026 conservatard. your sources are fucking jpegs
>>739560507>great reviews on steamdevs can get negative reviews removed>cirtically acclaimedgaming "journalists" are notriously corrupt and inept, they'll give high scores to a literal piece of shit as long as the arse that shits it out belongs to a major publisher or well-known developr
>>739560912thanks chatgpt
>>739558589Goalpost status?
>>739558967to support 800 devs each and everyone who bought would need to buy 33$ in battlepasses, seeing how 1/8 of the og playerbase is left, more like 240$, good luck
>>739560945would you like me to summarize that for you, mr. faggotson?
>>739561003nah I will ask your mom tonight during our fucking session
>>739555082Do you understand how many games exist?
>>739560354The crazy thing is they were all so arrogant about shoving their woke troonery into everything but not realizing that people can simply choose not to buy their games. Like seriously they act like they are selling food or natural gas or some other thing essential for survival. When in reality nobody has to buy their pozz infested shit ever and it costs people nothing not to buy it so they don't. But they will continue to kill each franchise and move on to the next like a parasite killing its host before moving on. It's why you now see Anita trying to hang out with the devs of Expedition 33. Literally a parasite moving on to the next host.
>>739556969There a few things in this world that never get old. One is fucking with AAA game devs, the other is Charlie kirk because he's dead lol
>>739561190>reddit spacinggobacknow
all this coping about chuds… why cant they just make cool space marine games if they know thats what their audience wants?They had this fucking formula for Halo 1 and abandoned it for some reason.
>>739560992it sold 1.2 million in the first two weeks and it was confirmed by both the same sales analitics that said saros sold 300k copies and the marathon hater paul tassi and his internal bungie sources. since then the game reached 2.2 million by the end of april and by now must be well into 2.9 million copies sold, for $40, no in-game purchases included. i myself got $400 in lux currency and the marathon playerbase tend to spend on weekly bungles
>>739560938>gaming "journalists" are notriously corrupt and inept,It's a closed feedback loop of gaming "consultants" guaranteeing positive coverage from gaming journos and gaming journos in turn get guaranteed inside access to games being developed. The gaming customer has nothing to do with it. Which is the fatal flaw in their grift and why it always eventually comes crashing down.
>>739561347>source: the guy who wasted 400 dollars on an extraction shooter.
>>739555304it's live service garbage, that's plenty reason to label it trash
>>739560130Nice non-answer. I'm asking about the specific example you gave. What makes that one 'trans-coded'?
>>739559363Androgynous designs are just troon creepiness. You know this. I know this. Fucking left freaks pretending to not understand things making discourse impossible.
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>>739561598I know it when I see it. It's very biased and unfair, but it's not my job to correct my own thinking. It is the devs' job to recommend I do so.
>>739561696So anime is creepy because bishies often look womenly? Come on now, that's bullshit. Androgynous /= trans.
>im not woke, I have a blac- er, er, i mean white friend!
Big question is, are they aware of how disingenuous they are or does it come naturally from following the playbook ingrained in them.
>>739554948>‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor toldSo, you're telling me at least 2/3rds of Bungie employees are Trump supporters...?
>>739561830No idea wtf you’re talking about. But yeah creepy androgynous moeshit is troonshit too KYS
>>739560540>I have yet to encounter...outside of /v/.Okay so go back and stay outside of /v/ then. Why tf are you even come here?
>>739554948>And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. Oof, that's racist. Some of those white guys should be let go and replaced by some heckin diversity.
>>739561347even with your super-optimistic numbers you barely account for 1 player that already left, all the ppl who dropped it would need to come back and spend 33$, they're not coming back, so start the campaign to get all redditors to spend 240$ on this game asap
Why would I buy a Marathon game that doesn't have a novel's worth of schizo lore dumps?
>>739562038They are coming back, everyone will for season 2people just had their fill of season 1 and went back to being productive and functional adults not like you seething chuds that spent the whole day doomposting steam charts in every post you can
>>739561762It's the devs' job to make a product with an alignment to your thinking.
>>739562151and they'll also shill 33$ on... Cosmetics? Even if they would come back, why would anyone pay more for a dying game? You seriously expect who paid 40 bucks for this barebones game to shill out 75% of buy in just because it survived to s2?
>>739561696>Fucking left freaks pretending to not understand things making discourse impossible.They do this automatically. It's like breathing to them. >"HURR What does woke even mean??" You see them try to play that game all the time when they literally know what EVERYTHING means all the way down to the molecular level in order to glean if someone is being "problematic" or breaking some kind of rule. I always call them out on their obviously fake ignorance the instant they try to do it.
>>739562275Language is not descriptive to political minds, rather it is a tool.
>>739555082have developers considering making good games? that would quell a lot of the complaining.
>>739561958Anime website; scram.
>>739562275>"HURR What does woke even mean??"
>>739554948>Can't we just stick to making video games?
>>739561754Still not an answer.>>739561762>I know it when I see it.Ok, fair enough, I can't argue with subjective impressions. I didn't get that impression, obviously.
>>739562448>mods deleted the reply for speaking truth!So what’s the definition of woke?
>>739555304>How can so-called gamers wish for a game to failbad games deserve to fail, its absolutely correct to want badly made games to fail, because resources are finite and every dollar devs spend on bad games could've been spent on good games.
>>739554948Lol I fucking love tortanic threads, the cope from bot shills and publisher shills on this board crying about how I hate the game is hilarious. I will never buy their tranny shooter game and they'll keep spending money telling me I'm awful for it LMAO. The cope is hilarious.
>>739555082i know this is bait but visuals are a huge aspect of VIDEO games and if a game deliberately orients itself around things that are unpleasant to look at then it is unappealing and the proliferation of such games is the real harm to the industry.
>>739554948I campaign for bad games to fail. If you font want to lose money make a good video game. I dont understand how this is so hard for anyone to understand. Make something youre passionate about, something youve always wanted to see be made. Dont chase trends. Its that fucking simple.
>>739555332>oh man we lost 5 million dollars on this shitty game!>good thing we got paid 10 million by investors to make it shitty>i guess we'll keep making shitty games since the money blackrock makes off of their properties keeps flowing
>>739562674They'll abuse the fact that most words do not define an absolute (which leads to the retarded "what is a chair?" conundrum), but they'll only apply that standard to defining woke, never to defining "racist".
>>739562674My favorite kind of woke "rebuttal" is when they claim a franchise was always woke.Like alright. If said franchise actually was always woke, then why are people trying to change it and make it more woke?
>>739562603One blatant example.
>>739562881It's the classic Catch 22 where they change seemingly "inconsiquential" details to appease the mythical modern audience then they hand wave it as no big deal and you as the sensitive snowflake. Ok so why did you change it?
>>739562603Putting identity politics first and foremost before anything else. Before an idea for a game is even formed if you're worried about "representation" you're already on a one way ticket to bozo town.
>>739563042People will actively deny even the existence of this fucking video, like it's fucking AI generated.
>>739563071This is a big one. It's a well they delve into all the time.
>>739563042elf looks like crazy frog
>>739562881It's more like why did you even like the already woke franchise, were you lying to yourself?The AC series is probably one of the biggest examples of this. It bothers you that they're changing a series that's been always trash to accommodate more trash. You're acting like this is important because admitting the older trash is trash is an insult to your intelligence as a consumer.
>>739563042>the character I'm playing as must be LITERALLY me>no, it's not a separate character that I'm playing AS, it IS ME>if the character I'm playing doesn't look EXACTLY LIKE ME then I can't play the gameWomen confirmed psychopaths devoid of empathy? Video game characters aren't supposed to look like the player, they're supposed to look however their creator intended the character to be. Because it's a character, independent of the player, whose world and adventure and story the player is merely experiencing. I can't imagine the level of narcissism and lack of empathy needed to not understand this.
>>739563071The rapidly evolving insidiousness is what tilts me. For a while it was subtle, then it came out louder and louder when they thought gamers got normalized to gay shit, learned they did not, and slinked back into the shadows like people don't got object permanence or something. Otherwise competent games are now at risk cuz these evil people now do their evil rituals behind the scenes. I hate that my sense of trust in Slay the Spire shattered the moment someone read through the credits (out of shits and giggles I assume) and fucking Anita Sarkeesian showed up. I can never think about that game again without wondering>What did they change.>What could we have gotten.>How fucked in the head are the devs.It's horrible. This is the real damage these evil people cause.
>>739554948>Voice DirectorWho gives a shit about their opinion? The game fucking sucks and the playercount reflects this.
>>739554948The industry knows they've lost the battle for the hearts and minds of core gamers. They're sad and angry about not being able to get you to just shut up and fund women's entertainment.
>>739563545>the character I'm playing as must be LITERALLY me>no, it's not a separate character that I'm playing AS, it IS ME>if the character I'm playing doesn't look EXACTLY LIKE ME then I can't play the gameThe thing that NONE of them will EVER admit is that these very same people crying and shiling muh representation with uggified fat, manjawed, horesface, trooned out characters are actually the ones secretly buying more sexy hot waifu skins than anybody. They are the most dishonest lying people imaginable. Even they don't buy their horsefaced dogshit. It's all performative.
>>739557534>Destiny 2 was actually going upBungie chose a really great time to publicly announce that they're cutting off development
>>739558078>zero responses
>>739555804It's even worse than that.>game gets revealed>players say it looks like ass and give feedback on what they would want to see changed>"ugh stupid chuds you're not the target audience">game flops>"IT WAS A HATE CAMPAIGN"
>>739563959>What did they change. They probably didn't change much if anything because that was not the purpose for putting her name on it. Putting her name on it is twofold. #1 because she runs an extortion racket where she will have her connections inside the press downgrade your game for not playing ball. And secondly she wants the positive association of having her name be connected to a good game so she can use it as justification for parlaying into being hired for more consulting gigs by people that don't know any better. Then once that ball is rolling she can get back to doing real damage like she did before.
>>739564765The silent has that distinct tumblr aesthetic now though
>>739554948>nobody cares>"WAAAAAH, HATE CAMPAIGN!"what the actual shit? the less attention I pay to marathon, the more they chimp out, what the hell??seriously, I haven't responded to marathon threads or discussions or even references since the month it launched, and somehow that translates into a "campaign"?
>>739563959>Anita Sarkeesian showed up. I can never think about that game again without wonderingI thought it was a weird decision that some characters just became obese for no reason like the Defect who went from a skinny cool robot to a fat big chungus, I now know why that change occurred. And yes, they are evil and they fundamentally want to kill all life on Earth by making it too stupid, brown, obese and ill to survive, it's not an exaggeration, it's genuinely what they want.
>>739564998I love how the "hate" is anons in their tiny board going>haha 4 billions down the drain>haha look at this screenshot of steamdbNone of the anons here is interacting with the devs in any way or doing anything to the game, we're as inconsequential to the outcome of the game as any sportsfan is while watching a match, but we keep getting blamed even when it's provably not our fault in 5 seconds, see the Chinese reviewbombing of StS2 being blamed on le chuds when the English reviews were at 93% positive and the Chinese 34%.
>>739554948ONE MORE CONCORD REJECTED
>>739554948There's no hate campaign, people just don't care for the game and voice their criticism.
>>739555014>>And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’>>739557982>>How could I be leftist? I'm only working with white people!I'd be more concerned with the kulakization of white people. They're now separating white people into its own category of "non woke" and if you take into account that "woke" is all that's good and proper and progressive, and you're not included in that, you're kinda the public enemy. And you know what's done to the enemies of society.Also, it's kinda funny that now, they're saying "but i work with white people", just like you used to say "but i have a black friend" when others called you the meme buzzword of dehumanization and societal ostracization. Working with "white people" has become the new magic words you have to say to not get whacked. Still, pay attention to the previous paragraph way more than to this one because you cannot undo that, it's another step towards genocide.
>>739554948>muh hate campaingFor no reason at all>bungie isn't wokeCome now
>>739554948He ain’t wrong
>>739554948>This is Concord 2, this is Concord 2.’ No retard, thats Highguard.
>>739554948I wish both gamers and developers will finally learn to shut the fuck up.
>>739555082We love it, thats why we are purifying it of you. And you bitching tells us we're on the right track.
>>739555082Judging by the amount of seethe generated, it seems you hit a nerve lol.
>>739554948>I welcome critique>but no criticism of my game is valid!
>>739558386Your dishonesty is transparent and pathetic.
>>739557156then you are Me
>>739568279Allowing women in the workforce was the greatest mistake humanity ever made.
>>739568223I know people like this and they're so fucking insufferable.
>>739555304core design elements and the visuals were so fucking bad that players who are FPS and even extraction fans found the game repulsive. Dev team was warned of this when they showed it off to extraction streamers. They were warned again when they did their public beta testing .The blame for this one falls squarely on the arrogant out of touch dev team that spent millions of dollars trying to shut down 4chan instead of making more maps and content for the game.
>>739558281No, this is an adjustment you made to your narrative. It was "its not happening" until that holding that position becane unfeasable so you switched to this.
>>739557156Ironically enough, if you have two teammates, marathon isn't that bad of a game choice. The game design is centered around rape.
>>739562275They are dishonest at a fundamental level. And therefore are the bad guys.
>>739554948>White men and women can't be woke leftistsThis person is clearly arguing in very poor faith because of how stupid that one single comment is.
>>739555304People who have any sense of justice, fairness or decency generally expect good behavior to be rewarded and bad behavior to be punished. Incentives are the only way our civilization functions, and we live in an age where, generally speaking, the richest and most powerful people in the world are some of the worst and most ruthless, while good and honest hard-work gets people next to nothing.Over many decades, its become a hot-button and politically charged issue for many. An ideal world would be more like (OT) Star Trek - white people of good standing gallivanting around the galaxy in high-tech spaceships with their pet token minorities, sleeping with alien princesses and teaching people on far-reaching planets the difference between right and wrong. Instead we have seas of brown people teaching other whites to be self-hating, dragging everyone down to their level and beating them over the head on a Sudanese Underwater Basket Weaving Forum.One of these things is not like the other.
>>739558003They've done it at least six times now. Big media still won't connect the dots between woke and rejected by the mainstream audiences.>>739558446Do asians count as white this week?
>>739562275So please define "woke" then :)
>>739559060Listen to the devs talk about it. It's people of all gender IDs inserted into different 3d printed shells made on site. It's technically post gender. See also the enby guardian from Destiny.
>>739554948>nyooo they hate me for being wokeHow's that content vault going lil bud? If you don't hate Bungie you don't know Bungie
>>739568691Something saturated with modern progressive ideology. For more detailshttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wokeYou can quit playing dumb now.
>>739560540This tells me the marketing director needs to be fired. They spent over 50 MILLION fucking dollars on marketing. Bought out all the streamers twice. Hired an academy award winning film maker to make a short. Hired some exotic techno musicians for the music.>>739559993That metrics company isn't stupid. If they had meant sales, they would have said sales. The only other sizable source of players was the beta.
>>739558386>The same universe where you retards think non-white = wokeno one thinks thisthere are plenty of well liked black game characters, and black people in real life, that aren't woke
>>739561598>>739562501If you really care and aren't just pretending to be retarded, go pull up what the devs said in interviews to the LGBT press on their designs.
>>739554948>Why are you spending hours doing this … How do you hope something fails?Because it's fun? If you cunts won you'd be doing the same to me
>>739568864And what is "modern progressive ideology?"This should be good.
>>739568691I'd define it as anything that places a positive bent on non-whites, feminism, LGBT, egalitarianism or any of the other dysgenic policies of the modern age when people can see with their eyes what its done to almost every Western civilization by any metric, from education to violence to the state of families. Its been awful in all fields, so people and media should both rightly understand that the things that caused that shift are also awful and should be banned from polite society. Trying to sell people on any of these things being good is what 'woke' is, and its largely being used to atomize and destroy everything good about the world so that normal people don't have a proverbial leg to stand on.
>>739554948>“I saw some guy like, I don’t want to get into specifics, but they’re just like, ‘I hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor toldHow is this some sort of gotcha? White wokies are the entire problem. They take offense for everyone and need to speak for all races and beliefs. They pick and choose which skin colors and beliefs are good and which ones are icky and problematic.
This is Concord 2, this is Concord 2
>>739562831For this game, they are down a quarter BILLION dollars. That's not counting loss of value of the company. Just straight rev vs expenses, and they're also losing more money every month.The amount they lost was so huge that Sonys investor materials put bungie by name on the charts where they showed how much they fucking lost on software. This is at a point where even normie retail investor notice.
>>739564094The fact that they're sticking their head out NOW, when Bungie is about to go through big layoffs is interesting, and a big part of Marathon's failure was not fucking listening to what the audience wanted..
>>739569061>White wokies are the entire problemTo be entirely fair, if there weren't any browns, faggots or leftists on the planet, 'white wokies' wouldn't have anything to bitch about, for or against, in the first place. The root cause of the root cause is still the minority groups pushing abnormality on society, whether people are for or against those abnormalities is just the politics that follows the problems.
This game needed to release when Tarkov was big and people were growing more and more discontent with the dogshit studio that developed it.Of course megacorps are 10 years behind the trend again and nowadays nobody gives a rat's ass about extraction shooters.Imagine Marathon had come out one or two months after this video. They could have stolen half the playerbase.Blaming "haters" is just cope to deflect from the fact that it was too little, too late.
>>739569056You are a racist lunatic
>>739568168Don't be such a bigot anon.
>>739556070They're on to us...
>>739568691Lurk more. I trust you'll eventually get it.>>739568989Well, it's more fun than Marathon.
>>739569296>This game needed to release when Tarkov was bignobody would play it because everybody was playing tarkov, and they would be weirded out because the visual diarrhea art style
>>739569296The game design is still critically flawed. It's not beating Tarkov.
>>739554948People just want to hate, but they don't want to play your dogshit game :(
>>739563042Do ugly anons want to play as ugly people?Like I look like Ryan Gosling irl and I don't want to play as uggos.
>>739569296Marathon could have full released the day after this video and it wouldn't matter. None of these tarkov clones do anything but scratch the surface. That's the issue. People don't want "Tarkov lite" they want "Tarkov, not made by BSG". They want all the dick kicking, all the map design, the retarded quests that go on forever, the 11 different places to raid.All of these clones come out with 1/10th the content and never fucking add enough to reach parity with Tarkov over about three years and then just throw up their hands like it's somehow gamers fault they can't make enough.
>>739569296>They could have stolen half the playerbaselolPeople whine about cheating all the time but they keep playingHow many cheating scandals did CS go through
>>739554948>openly hate and discriminate against straight white men>wonder why straight white men refuse to support you and actually celebrate your misseryits a mistery
>>739569589>Tarkov, not made by BSGWhoever makes Tarkov will become BSG. It's like a curse
>>739569658>>openly hate and discriminate against straight white mensource?
>AAAAACK Why did marathon fail?
>>739558074Oy vey
i genuinely don't understand how there are no leftist groups that have split from the corporate racewar slave "leftists"they'd probably sweep if such a thing happened
>>739569056Pretty good definition but I'd emphasize that wokeism puts an *outsized* emphasis on praising anything but non-white and non SE Asian males. Nobody cared in the past and nobody called it woke when a black squad member happened to be good at his job. But it becomes woke when he becomes the main character (which is clearly to spite the main audience and is a game made mostly by white people). That is when you can see that the ideology has superseded the desire to make a good product.
>>739569696Destiny 2
>>739569940>still no sourceokay chud
>>739558629Leftism is a jewish creation, they literally are bigger zogbots than even maga boomers and don’t even realize it.
>>739569589This. Even I have to admit there's a bunch of little details about Tarkov that make it worth playing even though the game is absolute cancer. The guns feel super crispy, the mag and inventory management is absolutely perfect for satisfying autism brain, and even munching on stale Russian sausage feel weirdly satisfying. The pieces are there, its just that the dev is kind of a shitheel and makes all his decisions in the wrong directions for the wrong reasons.Marathon was wrong decisions made for the wrong reasons from the start, so it doesn't matter who the dev is or isn't. Nobody wants to play 'Black people and feminists save the vomit-inducing faggot universe'.
>>739554948I don't understand what people are calling "woke" about this game? I'll I've seen is people say the artstyle somehow is which seems rather silly. Did some of the devs go out and say something?
>>739570121it's just a lot easier to say that people hate your game because its woke than just that people hate your game because it sucks
>>739569061There's a video on Youtube pertaining to Voter ID. The interviewer speaks to a bunch of white liberal students on a campus, and then a bunch of niggies in the hood. They ask: "Is it racist to require voter ID?" The white students (that I'm sure were selectively shown as the worst examples) said stuff like "it's too hard for them to find the registration building" and "it's unfair to expect them to have to have an ID". The niggies said stuff like "Yeah it's over on 7th and King St." and "Yeah I already have an ID." And I confirmed that, racist as I am, I'm not as racist as many white liberals.
>>739554948>I’m working with four white guys and two white women.what does that have to do with their leftist ideology?
>>739570293That obviously ridiculous comment is how you know he's a hardline leftist.
>>739570121>I don't understand what people are calling "woke" about this game?It is a mystery.
>>739570503>if it doesnt have an anime girl its wokekill yourself
>>739554948>"We always welcome criticism, but we don't want to hear anything negative about our product."
>>739570575cope crackeranime girls run this world
>>739570503Is it some vague shells = trans thing? Or is it just the strange character designs?
>>739570606he didnt say that. He said that all the negativity is about the game being woke, and hating it just because its cool.Hes right.
>>739570293Marxism today is all about race.
>>739570606The toxic positivity has reached terminal levels, it's great
>>739570657Why are we not allowed to critique the wokeness of the game? Why doesn't it count when nobody buys the game because of a certain reason?
>>739570074They're too hyperfocused on making a game for "casuals" while completely ignoring that casuals do not stick with games. That's why they're called fucking casuals. Grognards are who stick with long-dev time games, or retarded games-as-a-service designs. Casuals will just pick up the next clone the second it drops, play it for a month, and then abandon it.
>Destiny 2 players currently has 3x the players on steam that marathon has Lmaooo
>>739570731>the game is not woke>OMG IT DOESNT HAVE BIG TITTIES ITS WOKE>just because it doesnt have big titties it doesnt mean its wo->SHUT THE FUCK UP WHY CANT I CRITIZICE IT FOR BEING WOKEretarded ass faggot
>>739570762trust the plan chud
>>739570808You didn't answer the questions, so here they are again:Why are we not allowed to critique the wokeness of the game? Why doesn't it count when nobody buys the game because of a certain reason?
>>739570762the main playerbase is on consoles
>>739570854hows it wokeI will wait
>you're not allowed to hate things chud>but we can hate you and your very existence and anything that doesn't agree with our way of thinkingSo just another Tuesday.
>>739570947You didn't answer the questions, so here they are again:Why are we not allowed to critique the wokeness of the game? Why doesn't it count when nobody buys the game because of a certain reason?Refusing to answer again means you concedeIt's not my fucking problem by the way, the facts are that the game flopped because nobody bought it. You are crying about critiques analyzing the reason the game flopped and going "nuh uh"
>>739569296>Imagine Marathon had come out one or two months after this video. They could have stolen half the playerbase.noit never would haveTarkov is genuinely played mostly by tacticool gun autiststhey like the gritty realism with real guns they can recognize and obsess overThose people would've never moved to Marathon, because they just see an ugly colorful game with lego weapons and go "ew", and go back to their old reliable AK-47, their 1911, or whatever the fuck they obsess overMarathon is not only late to the party, but they also failed to read the room as to what extraction shooter autists wantIt's an extraction shooter that didn't appeal to most of the already existing extraction shooter playerbase
Holy shit lol Marathon is gonna have less players than D2 after season 2 drops
>>739554948racists and rightoids giving "marathon is obviously a poorly conceived game" critiques a bad name
>>739570121"woke" has no real meaning. Ask anyone to describe what makes a game "woke" and you get some vague nebulous Barnum effect style response applicable to any bad game while trying to associate it being bad with a political affiliation. It doesn't matter what the game is or about, if its bad or it flops, they will just morph the already vague definition of "woke" to fit what ever is in that game. Really a stealth political campaign psyop targeting the impressionable younger gaming generation.
>>739570503What Marathon class is this?
>>739571081how do you want to make a critique of something what doesnt exist?
>>739571181*fewer
>>739570947>Blacks painted in a positive light>Faggots/dykes painted in a positive light>Feminism painted in a positive light>Women soldiers>Alt-lifestyle aesthetics>Not glorifying the only image we have in the real world of civilization working, which is essentially white ethnostates prior to unchecked immigrationIts pretty woke. If it weren't, the design would follow logic and it'd be about white people saving society from the minorities by lighting them on fire.
>>739569329This is the sort of dogshit response you get for actually explaining what the problem is
>>739563545I recall seeing lots of ridiculous posts on here about how people can't play a game with a black protagonist because it doesn't look like them. I'm glad the consensus has swung back to my side.
>>739571446oh so youre an al righter maga fagI get it now
>>739568691You can't explicitly define what a dog is and yet you'll happily call a creature you haven't seen before a dog.
>>739570503okay, like real talkCompletely unrelated to the whole "le woke game xddd, imma rite grok? high five" talk, am I the only one who finds every single one of the shell designs disgusting?Like, not a single one of them is good. Like, not even remotely>b-but Vandal is my waifu, here look at this completely off-model artget your hand off your dickthey are shitevery single oneand the upcoming one looks just as bad as the rest
>>739571589Skins are made to push a narrative, not look good
>>739555014Nailed it. Why use the white card like it means they should have a pass? Not even the same thing.
>>739555082Stop making low quality games and you will avoid these criticisms because the gsme stands on its own merits. Look at Arc Raiders there is no reason why performance should be a sloggy mess.
>>739571523Why do you trannies even come to this website? Just stay in your GcJ hugbox
>>739558967Bungle would have boasted about passing a 1 million sales milestone.
>>739555304Game was incomplete on release and nothingnis interesting with the story told in the world. It had competition and pales against it.
>>739571631i'm not even talking about the skins, i'm talking about the base designs
>>739555082>t. disgruntled bungie employee
>>739571951Why the fuck are they speaking into twitter bird's megaphone? The sound should be coming out of it
>>739571523>Asks question>Does not receive answer>WHAT WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER ME ABOUT WHAT WOKE IS>Okay, here's what's woke>Oh, so you're one of those, I guess I can dismiss your point of view out of handYou asked and I answered you, you absolute mouth-breather. If I wanted any lip from you I'd take it off my zipper.
>>739568986>go pull up what the devs said in interviews to the LGBT press on their designs.Not my job to do your homework.>>739568773post gender /= transenbies don't count as trans eitherIt's an entirely separate catagoryTrans people by definition want to be a gender, not be agender
>>739572262A transgender (often shortened to trans) person has a gender identity different from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birthThis includes made-up genders like nonbinary shit
>ugh these fucking chuds are so stupid and the hate campaign is so forcedhe says as its completely bombing in real time and taking other successful games with it
LOL
>>739572398But the REAL critics (people whose travel expenses we paid) said that it was lightning in a bottle...
>>739555014It's the old "I can't be racist, I have black friends!" shit, but even funnier because the only people pushing woke slop in the first place are self-hating white golems like this guy.
>>739572262>>739572345To add to that, agender get their own letter in LGBTQIA+(but they have to share it with asexuals and allies)
>>739554948Yes.I want to hate on bad games that don't appeal to me.
>>739570503>1 singular psuedo-nigger>the rest of the shells look cool and got style>cyber-goth chick is hot>asian is cute>recon got a banging body>Destroyer is cyber-masterchief>assassin is edgy and voice by a legend doesnt valorant, overwatch, marvel rivals all have niggers in them? why are we freaking out about 1 all of the sudden? he even got some crazy looking skins coming
>>739569049Nta butThe answer is woke. Gg no re
>>739572662>>the rest of the shells look cool and got stylemhm
>>739555014Its because the core of these people's beliefs revolves around hating white people. The more you dissect their beliefs and trace the logic to find its hypocrisies you will realize that everything they do and say is because they hate you. Everything else is set dressing to masquerade that hatred as morally just.
>>739572662I don't play any of that shit
>>739572549I love how latinx has become the politically correct way to tell spics to go fuck themselves
>>739563042And im sure she still looks like that today, having rejected ozempic since her body was already "perfect".
>>739572662>guys these look COOL!>they're really HOT!>if I repeat it enough, you'll stop believing the evidence of your eyes and ears!Kill yourself, troon. None of those other games are worth playing either.
If humanity ever figures out dystopian cybernetic implants, surely the first ones to be implemented would be a "Make employees shut the fuck up" implant on the vocal cords.
>>739569329>You are a racist lunatic>>739571523>oh so youre an al righter maga fagThey pretend not to know what woke is so that they get to call you names when you tell them.And in the distance we heart woke games flop, flop, flop as they suffocate out of their element.
I like how bungo has doubled down on shill since the next season is coming uphope that money was well spent LOLbut what's a couple million when you're already hundreds in the red
>>739563042Why is it always the ugliest fuckers pushing for this shit anyways? At my job there is a clique of extremely woke co-workers and they are the ugliest, obese motherfuckers in the building.
>>739571502>I recall seeing lots of ridiculous posts on here about how people can't play a game with a black protagonist because it doesn't look like them.Those people are equally retarded. Video game characters are supposed to look like themselves, not any particular player. You may as well ask for Lord of the Rings to be rewritten because you're not a halfling. If you find it impossible to relate to someone who looks different from you, then you're a damaged person who lacks empathy and imagination. This is not a reason to force characters to be any particular way, they should just be however their creators want them to be and nothing more or less.
>>739572947They're projecting their insecurities on the rest of the world because they want to make everything as ugly as they feel instead of improving themselves or learning to be comfortable in their own skin.
>>739572856Damn that's unappealing. These are mere remote machines, I recall? What's the point of giving these things a face at all? Is it to differentiate from the faceless cpu enemies? I wish it were blanks, at least there'd be some flexibility in customization.
>>739568691>So please define "woke" then :)See this is how the game works. You feign ignorance and ask what does woke mean. I answer your question by saying anything made queer or intentionally ugly and and unattractive. Any narrative that pushes a modern leftist agenda is woke. Then you double down and say "define ugly and unattractive" then rinse and repeat. Its a game of moving goalposts and verbal whackamole designed to put the other person on the defensive until they just give up. Your questions are not real questions. They are tactics. The jig is up and people are onto your bullshit. Which is why they simply ignore it until whatever company that is pushing this woke just goes out of business.
>>739572947>>739573110
>>739554948What fucking voice acting there is no story? Why does this position even exist
>>739555082I don't have to play your slop and actively want the games industry to have a megacrash
>90% of the time they act like chuds are insignificant and have no influence>then articles like this come out where they basically admit chuds are destroying their gamelol
>>739571295If it has no real meaning, why do you have a mental breakdown every time someone points out that games keep flopping because they're woke?Just ignore it.
>>739555304new things not being tried is exactly the problem.they keep pumping out garbage live service extraction shooters
>>739573412They want to downplay the power of chuds while also using them as a scapegoat for criticism. Something that if you take two seconds to think about it doesn't make sense. Even funnier because most of the supposed chuds are also simply doing nothing.
Maybe they ought to make games for the "chuds" instead of saying the game isn't for them, because it's clearly not working financially lmao.
>>739572549Latinx is an English word, not a Spanish wordAnd Bungie used "Latin @ Bungie" and not any of the new English words.
Why did marathon flop?
>You shouldn't be allowed to make a video game if people have the wrong skin color>You need to depict every skin color to my standard and you cannot exclude anything I demand for any reason>If you don't I will hound your bosses until you are fired>I am not racist and the chuds are the bad guysNever gets less gay hearing this factory-made sentiment. Get fucking FLOPPED on.
>>739573686Bungie trying so hard to wrestle the "worst dev on the planet" trophy from Ubisoft.
>>739572673What's the name of this recursive fallacy?
>>739573412>>739573628Chuds are a loud minority, they are however representative of general sentiments of the silent majority. Truth is DEI is only part of why these games fail, its also that they just fucking suck and are filled with scummy ways to get your money. Its been a decade of nothing but greed from AAA studios and the silent majority are just too fatigued to keep bothering with this shit. DEI just has so much more online discussion surrounding it compared to the fatigue of raped legacy ips so game devs think the only reason these games fail is the loud minority.
>>739573025>You may as well ask for Lord of the Rings to be rewritten because you're not a halfling.LotR and the Hobbit are some of the only short people representation out there. Every other hero is tall and jacked.
>>739573797I thought EA held that trophy, with Activision in second place.
>>739573821I don't know maybe read a book. Just stop trying to burden me with your ignorance nigger
>>739573826>scummy ways to get money>greedSorry, but the most successful games these days are nothing but greed and scummy ways of getting your money. Those games failed because no one gave a shit about them. Greed had nothing to do with their failure.
>>739573245>>739571295Woke is synonymous of a very rampant social marketing campaign and then delivering a game that lacks the qualities of innovation and delivery of a game that has taken in the wishes of gamers during its development period.Effectively it is a failure of communication to stick with the companies own ideals and failing to generate a traditional story that resonates with the audience. This makes people question what you have been doing with your time. The woke aspect then blends in with the lazy attitude of having done daily socials for 1-2 hours without putting any work into it. This is why people get triggered by the look of the stafg in interviews if they are talking about a feature that is generic like it is new toast. It is using descriptions and being conmen to cover up what actual results are. It is being conmen that focus on 'sexual identity' respect like it was some new category instead of gameplay / music / graphics etc
>>739574067Well 2nd paragraph I meant comapny ideals do not accomadate the change of player ideals.
>>739574049The Great Floppening of games in the 2020s is all live service garbage and 80$ games riddled with microtransactions, dlc, and battlepasses.
>>739556531>>739557173Then you get pro-woke douchebags of gayming that think being anti-woke is hate & harassment but it's okay if you're pro-woke.
>>739554948I don't hate your game, I just don't play it. Not even for free.
>>739573826The people not buying shit is the majority, you moron. That's why the shit flops.
>>739554948Honestly I'm going to be so sad when this era of sassy corporate is over. Them blaming the customer and then eating shit on a catastrophe will never not be funny, I hope this never ends
>>739573951They'll have to kill Bethesda and Bioware for it.
>>739574205Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Greed is good. It's the products that sucked.
>>739554948>hate campaignnice newspeak for organic criticism. funny how they say this while employing blast havers to shamelessly shill this tripe. good riddance. don't hire trannies and faggots next time lmao
>>739570947Nta, bisexual lighting. You lose.
>>739554948>>While the actorI don't care what trained monkeys have to say.
>>739574231They always act like woke is an ambiguous accusation. All they have to ask themselves is>what is "problematic" about this gameIf they can't find one, then it's woke. Marathon is lauded as being "unproblematic", and hence that's why it's woke.
>>739571295Peak gaslighting here folks. PEAK
>>739574313Why reply to a post if you aren't going to read it moron?
>>739554948>And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’”>woke is when brown peopleshut up you liberal cumskin
I would defend marathon if it didn't have the gameplay of a generic free asset marketplace UE project with no changes
>>739555304I would rather see every studio pushing this shit burned to the ground and have everyone who worked on those games left homeless and destitute. If this is the future of gaming, then it should be nuked from orbit.
>>739574468Why would I read your retarded takes? I'm trying to do you a favour by dragging you out of your boundless nignorance.
>>739574468You did imply chuds are some separate group from the majority audience. They are the audience; some part of them just choose to be loud with their sentiments. "Chud" is such a nebulous "this guy is silly" term that it means nothing and using it plays into the fags whose purpose in life is to make life worse for everyone else.
>>739555304But I am playing new games.
>>739574831>games
>>739572549A Colombian at my office went batshit on the Latin egagement group because they said something similar. She went on a rant and lectured them that living in the US is nowhere near like living in Latin America and if your parents earned in US dollars growing up you should sit down and let the people who earned in pesos speak. Also how Mexicans in the US that were essentially Americans with a darker skin tone were trying to undermine the Latin American identity with this bullshit and how gender neutrality was an anglo concept that was erasing women gender struggles. Nobody interrupted her kek.
>>739554948>voice directorMarathon had voices?
>>739554948Game devs need to hire random guys off 4chan to pour through the "hate comments" and translate them into constructive criticism for these weepy California bugmen. I don't think they even understand what "ugly" means to be able to fix their games.
>>739574632This. If anything the layoffs aren't coming fast enough. They need to be accelerated. Every one of the blue haired Skrillex buzz cuts pushing this shit should be desperately flipping burgers to avoid becoming homeless.
>>739557696>hardcoreWut? I love Bungie gunplay but it is anything but hardcore. It is casual arena shooter gunplay.
Very Organic Thread
>>739573138That's why it's woke. If the goal were to appeal to the audience:a.) the robots would have generic faces with interesting chassis to distinguish between themorb.) the robots' faces would be as appalling to look at as possibleThey chosec.) niggerSo the ideology superseded the audience's desire.
>>739574394It's doublespeak, not newspeak.Newspeak is stuff like 'unalive' that kids have to use to get around chat autocensorship.
>>739574418>bisexual lightingThat's just them trying to appropriate based vaporwave aesthetics. Don't fall for it!
>>739555304No. I do not want more of your "unfettered liberal creativity and experimentation". If a creative pivot towards actual gamers is out of the question then it's preferable for the western part of the industry to just disappear
>>739576095you're right, thanks anon
>>739554948>voice director>for an online multiplayer-only PvP game
>>739554948>>“I saw some guy like, I don’t want to get into specifics, but they’re just like, ‘I hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor toldMaybe you shouldnt have tried to get him fired for questioning the holocaustWhat goes around comes around
Buy marathon you fucking chuds.
>>739574067I have a different concept of "woke".I think it's the inclusion of ideas that generally stick out as a sore thumb, add nothing to any general aspect of the game (and can easily be replaced) and jarringly covers some sort of checklist that can be matched with other works done by people coming from similar backgrounds with similar ideologies at a similar time.Basically it's bingo, but with a twist of dishonesty. "It's not important. It's the new normal. You're the odd one out. We were always this way. How about constructive criticism. You're *bad faith/-ist*. We're getting death threats." Discourse is full of people "complaining about woke" because a lot of people have stumbled upon this brand of dishonesty (not hard with how popular this sort of media has become) and found an easy term to identify it.
>We're not woke because we're white ??? This guy is literally doing the 'leftist pretends to be retarded' thing
>>739576743>Buy product you don't like or else you won't get product you do likeweird
>>739576743
>>739576748I think what you have identified are the characteristics of someone trying to push an ideology, but it's not what "Woke" itself is. Like if the typical chud sort of mindset was the ideology being pushed then you would see the same things you are pointing out here being used for something very different from "Woke".To me "Woke" is just "White people and white culture bad."
>>739576743Why the FUCK would I support something that is bad? What, they're gonna make Destiny 3 and it's just gonna be shit like marathon is?I'd unironically rather Activition give the IP to a new startup that has at least has an ambiguous chance of fucking it up, unlike Bungie.If people want loyalty they have to have consistent staff and decision makers, and not pump out soulless trend chasing garbage that are failures, in between their regular run of the mill failures.But no, Bungie and Activision want you to be loyal to THE NAME, Bungie and nothing else. Sorry business degree fucks, that's not how it works.
>>739572262>Not my job to do your homework.LOL. You're the one who asked, you fraud. It's simple enough a dumb youtube watching chud can get it. Alright. Shit yourself and ask again next thread.
>>739576743>be retarded D2 trannies>presented with 3 options>A) keep trashing Marathon and reduce the likelihood of a D3 to 0%>B) just let Marathon be, go play something else, increase chances by non 0%>C) suck up your pride, support the game, increase chances by 50%>choose option Awhat did they mean by this?
>>739569061To be fair the problem is ultimately created and pushed by jews
>>739577713Actual devs know it's shit, especially the guy that came up with the name.He probably wanted to do a new marathon, a return to the classic.However fucking kyubey demanded it to be turned into investorslop and it happened in front of him, without being able to do anything to stop it, and having to accept it and work on it.
>>739578859Are tou fucking retarded? D3 was and is never happening no matter what. Stop trying to shill this dogshit extraction slop
>>739559050You mean the $700mil in losses (what they're willing to tell shareholders anyway) studio that's so deep in shit sony just axed their actual moneymaker franchise sequel, is about to get "restructured" and their future relies entirely on being able to save the sinking ship that is Marathon? Last time they held influence, they sabotaged TLOU live slop and propped up Concord.
I'm not seen anyone hating on the game itself, just making fun of it for failing
>>739573821Its called not entertaining disingenous faggots
>>739579325I don't even know anything about it. I don't want to know anything about it.
>>739579325No, no, that's literal harassment and economic terrorism, you should be jailed for life for making fun of failing videogames.
>>739554948>retarded dev doesn't know what the problem isTale as old as time. Even when the problem is laid out for them they don't get it because they don't see it as a flaw. Modern devs are retards and cucks. Don't even bother calliong their game shit because you're wasting your time. Just don't buy it. Nobody bought concord and it failed. Simple.
>>739558281So 80+ years of marxist propaganda and mass immigration from third world countries isn’t deliberate?
>>739569049Nah, we ain't playing this. I don't care about convincing you or providing a definition you approve of - you are worthless. I answered to expose your bullshit to any undecided anons who might be reading.
>>739569329>heh, define woke, chud>no, not like that!Lmao
>>739571523Define maga
>>739571295If it has no meaning why do you get so butthurt when we attack it?
>>739569840Modern leftism wouldn’t exist without billionaires financing it. It’s not an organic movement and needs a constant money flow.
>>739579325I've been using it as an extremely flimsy excuse to post racisms.
>no-no, we're not woke at allWhy are they self-owning like that? Are they saying that Marathon isn't woke? Why isn't it woke? I thought woke was good?
>>739558708>retard spouts retarded shitretard theory
>>739573826>Chuds are a loud minority>Representative of the general sentiments of the silent majorityBecause they're the silent majority themselves. Nobody among normal people has ever liked faggots, browns or feminism beyond the performative. These things have always been objectively bad and they'll always be bad.
>>739579325If you ignore the hundreds of posts making fun of the game for the game itself and yeah I agree with you.Btw the game has George Droyd in it.
>Game full of tranny shittersH-HOW CAN THIS BE WOKE?!
It has amazing gunplay.
>>739582217Those people unironically believe that faggotry has become the norm and heterosexuals are in the minority. They're wrong, of course - evolution will always beat revolution - but the media tells them that everyone is an ally and not secretly waiting for the day when all the trannies rope themselves, and they believe it.
>>739578859>marathon suddenly does well>millions of copies sold>the marathon franchise is a success! divert all resources to marathon 2 NOW!>d3 never happenskekYour best bet is to avoid Marathon like the plague so Sony forces Bungie to revert to tried and true franchises.
>>739582141This design looks garish and bizarre. How this reached the final version I cannot understand.
>>739554948He's not wrong. Am I supposed to get angry or something?
>>739554948> I don’t want to get into specifics, but they’re just like, ‘I hope Bungie fails because of the woke leftist ideology.’ And I’m like, ‘I’m working with four white guys and two white women. I don’t understand this. Where are you getting this?’” the actor toldThere is so much here charged in someone that would say this that it’s insane.They know their dumb ideas don’t make money anymore. They know it’s detrimental to their advertisement. They are desperate for money of normal people. And in spite of all that they are incapable of understanding anyone in a base level.
Pete Parson's larped as a SJW because he knows that's what you have to say and his goal was to sell the company but the retards at Bungie are still parroting his bullshit
>>739574371It's weird how the same thing is happening in Hollywood. The super girl actress keeps saying stupid shit lately it was attacking Christian dads and the movie is projected to bombI am old and worked at Taco Bell when facebook just started. I made a facebook group "taco bell workers of facebook" and the next day corporate called my store and demanded I remove it or be fired. There was a time when they cared. Now I see zoomies on tik tok working at McDonalds and Taco Bell berating their own work and showing disgusting inside shit and no one stops them.
>>739554948We want to hate bad games, it's true.
>>739576743James Gunn did this same shit with the Flash. He said I know you guys want a Batman Beyond movie if Flash does well we will talk about it
>>739585139Good thing people are smart enough to know assholes that say that would ruin the product. Not continuing is a blessing
>>739585367I think the real evil is they know what we want they just demand we consume something else and maybe we will get it. Like terrible movies that end on a cliffhanger for what you actually want to see but the movie did so bad you never get a resolution to that cliffhanger
>>739554948Marathon sucks, but it's not wrong. You won't find a shred of positivity on /v/; nothing but miserable fucks.>Hey, Mina around to come out, anybo-->Slop!>Elliot releases next mon-->Garbage!1>Star Fox 64 coming out soo-->Dogshit!1It's like they'll cease to exist if you don't spend every waking moment actively looking for something to hate.
>>739585625So what? If you are looking for approval and headpats someone gave you wrong directions.We got shitposter in every thread about games I like too, and everyone laughs at their schizo fanfic and carries on waifuposting, lore trading etc.If such is so easily able to kill all your games threads instead? Seems it simply doesn't have much audience, and shitposting it to the grave is more fun than playing it for many anons.Common modern AAA game problem, that one.
>>739585625I can only assume how garbage this Elliot you're plugging must be from the other two. Reddit will fill your fake positivity needs.
>>739576095Exactly. Anytime you use a word, even if grammatically accurate to describe what the left are actually doing they will identify the word and label it as problematic and thus socially and sometimes even legally unacceptable. Thus making it nearly impossible to describe what they are actually doing.
Game studios claiming that a hate campaign made their game flopped has the same energy as /v/ claiming that a discord raid made their thread flop.
>>739585625Go to reddit then if you want your "toxic positivity" ugh I hate using that faggot phrase
>>739555304I don't want a live serviceI want a sandbox to do as I please, I want to host my own server with my own rules
>>739554948He is right but I still find it really interesting to notice that even they see Concord as synonymous with a disaster, and rather than scolding people on daring to criticize "woke", it's now "no it's not, we're even white!""Anti-woke" behavior is embarrassing manchild whining, but you can't deny that they did get results. Much more results and much more quickly than any "nuanced discussion" ever could have hoped to achieve as we just watched the industry being raped for a decade.
>>739555304>How can so-called gamersif you call yourself a gamer, you already lost
>>739586431This. Every fucking GaaS is a scam in my book If I buy a game, I better be able to play it in 10 years as well as today, no matter if your company goes bankrupt tomorrow or some public hysteria of the month wants it off-market. Otherwise, have fun selling it to the console cattle, I ain't buying.
Is plagiarism a valid criticism or is it good when bungie does it
>>739583120>Those people unironically believe that faggotry has become the norm and heterosexuals are in the minority.When was the last time a major western developer revealed a female main character to be straight? I don't think it has ever happened in the last decade. They have literally made it socially unacceptable in their own western dev circles to reveal a female character as straight. They would be persecuted from their own side and they know it. (they will deny this but its true). "Tolerance and inclusion"...lmao. More twisted and weaponized language where when they say it actually means the opposite of its true definition.
>>739558281So then how did 'we as a race' survive up to this point, then suddenly pivot into declining population
250million and burning
>>739558281Long nosed post
>>739558281>fellow whites our ego is too big and we only care about ourselvesfuck off chicken swinger
>>739572047It's a funnel, not a megaphone, duh
Why did all the shills forget that the artstyle of this slop was literally stolen
>>739556169But if they blame racist, misogynistic, transphobic sexist incel gamer nazies for the game failing because racist, misogynistic, transphobic sexist incel gamer nazies are such a huge and important group, wouldn't that mean they'd have to cater to racist, misogynistic, transphobic sexist incel gamer nazies for games to succeed?
>>739554948>But there’s people that go on Twitter and post memes: ‘This is Concord 2, this is Concord 2.Wasn't this concord 3?
>>739588324depending who you ask it could be Concord 5
>>739555905And that's why woketards refuse to avoid crossing the street around black people and get stabbed for it
>>739586557>He is rightHe is not
>>739558281Brown
>>739555304live service trash isn't a game nigger
>>739583584android with features of a black person, how bizarre!
>>739556740Because redditrannies think any criticism directed at them must mean that person is a trump supporter, clearly the worst thing a person can be
>>739556969They want rightoids dead because they're starting to realize that mocking and harassing them is a failing strategy for getting them to vote democrat
>>739555082>>739555304I want all ONLINE games to fail. They take money away from normal single player games. I hope all ONLINE games turbo bomb and fail and ruin all the publishers and devs involved
>>739576743>If you want DMC5, then you need to support DmC first.
>>739574443They always claim that nobody can define woke, and then someone always defines it, and their position is that they don't like the given definition therefore it can't be defined
I don't get how wokeness is the number one problem. My problem with it is the arrogance of coming out with "heh, it's time to teach you noobs how to do tarkov, with Bungie Gunplay", and delivering the most mechanically uninspired blank of a video game.1. game is boring as fuck, bog-standard extraction shooter, they are 5 years late to the trend2. cool art and music, but it's all style no substance3. despite that, the levels are uninteresting. Very similar to apex legends4. shoehorned "heroes" as usual to support the shitty monetization5. fucking console shooter
>>739554948i didn't even realize we were part of a campaign. was i supposed to be fundraising for this or something?where's my "Marathon Sucks 2026" gear!? who the fuck is running this campaign?
>>739589395>They want rightoids dead because they're starting to realize that mocking and harassing them is a failing strategy for getting them to vote democratto be fair, dead people overwhelmingly vote democrat, so the pivot is sound.
imagine being so used to your propaganda being explicitly monolithic campaigns funded by rich patrons dressed up to seem grass roots that you actually think actual grass roots trends are also actually campaigns waged by rich and powerful
>>739589489>NOOOO THINK OF ALL THE SINGLEPLAYER GAMES>ALL 300K+ OF THEM EVER RELEASED SINCE THE ATARI DAYSi'm literally shaking at thought of another GaaS taking my precious singleplayer games that i can call woke, mock for its writing, and spoil online so no one else gets to enjoy it but me :)
>>739590545Yeah. Fuck lil shlomo gonna do about it?
>>739589559No. They act flabbergasted, as though the definition is beyond imagination and beyond normally held societal values. They they call the person who defines it names.
>>739554948Just because I want to hate doesn't mean I haven't found a reason to hate
>>739554948>Why are gamers like this?https://jumpshare.com/share/07QF8XQwqHQxzP6Wg0r0!!!FACT!!!
>>7395549486 white men*
>>739555082>modern day gaming community is incredibly toxic. a bunch of entitled brats actively harming the very hobby they claim to love.The attached pic is you and your kind while the truth is that you don't actually care about games, it's just something that white straight males care about so your goal is to invade, infest, take-away and/or destroy anything you can get your claws into as recompense for the imaginary grievances that only exist in your mind and use to justify your shitty behavior!And of course you'll project that onto me and others by calling us Incels/Chuds and never acknowledge the damage you cause with deliberate malicious intent!!!FACT!!!
>>739570947Nice concession dude
>>739572662I'm genuinely curious as to how much you get paid by the IDF to post here? I need to make some extra cash
