IT’S TIME, DQBROS
It's all Keshi Keshi 2, please be excited.
>>739556505>Dragon Quest Daydo japs still care about it? and I mean the younger ones
>>7395565056 of them are going to be gachas, aren't they?
I am so fucking ready.
>>739557917whats the actual sauce of this pic?
>>739557941I dunno bro. I just saved it cause I thought it was funny
>>739556505The last 2 Dragon Quest releases flopped, the most recent one even had a bigger budget and re-did the graphics to pixar bobble-head design (which sucked and were gay).All the woke localization and censorship was noticed after everyone hype-buyed Dragon Quest 3 remaster. Now they're not to keen to keep supporting leftist censored slop.Shills on the steam forums will keep pretending everything is fine though.
>>739557941>not recognizing the Pisu Hame artist shiwasu no OkinaCasual
>>7395565056 of them gacha.1 for the mmo(not for you silly gajin)One rerelease slated for 2032.
I remember when leftists were trying to say this guy was aKsHuAlLy criticising Christians and CERO for the censorship and woke localizations.
>>739558134>redditspacing>dq>pcYou will never be a man.You will never be white.
>>739558134I don't think it has anything to do with that DQ3 has always been the DQ game that boomers have the most nostalgia for. No one cares about 1, 2 or 7 in comparison
Don't fuck it up.
I'm so ready, this is gonna be the one, I can feel it.
>>7395565051. Gacha update2. Merch3. Update to X4. XI for Switch 25. New gacha 6. McDonald's 7. Remake of VIII8. XII teaser, show's nothing
>>739557043>Dragon Quest DayThe fuck is that? Seriously, I've bought every single US released DW/DQ and I have no idea what that is
>>739558845ドラクエの日
>>739558960Puff-Puff no Hi, you say?
OH YA! BRING ON THE CENSORED WOKE SLOP!
>>739558443leftist here. idgaf and i love dragon quest.
>>739558495small nuts, smaller hands-no opinions-infant man
>>739559372I CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM TO CENSOR DRAGON QUEST 11 FOR SWITCH 2 WITH AN UNCENSORED VERSION AVAILABLE ON THE SAME CONSOLE
I heard the unlisted videos were just DQ7 promotional videos
>>739560436There is no fucking way all 8 videos are just about VII. Expect at least 2-3 new games. Probably a first look at XII also.
>>739558684You forgot IV HD-2D. Best DQ.
>>739558495>>739559786last 2 flopped and so will the next pc release, deal with it.
>>739558960This, but loli, but naked, but the cape stays on.
>>739561272Well drawfags?We're waiting!lose the cape keep the hat
>>739557043Yes, the remake efforts have been successful in japan>>739558134All of these sold more than 1M in the switch in japan alone
>>739561470every time they release a censored remake the damage to the brand accumulates
>>739561004I can't fucking wait for IV-VI HD-2D, bro. Day 1 purchase.
>>739564468>Debora but with martial art skillsI want it, man.
Given the trend this year about making "xxxx is my life ahaha I'm a loyal consumer!" videos like gundam and star ways, I'd expect one of those, one about history of to announce 12, then probably a smattering of other stupid shit like updates to mobile games (are there any they haven't shut down yet?) and then maybe a new rocket slime.
I'll get DQ3 remaster on a deep discount. The only reason I'm even thinking about it is because a modder undid all of the censorship.
>>7395648361/2/3 are all pretty solid, definitely worth getting on discount. I'm waiting for $60 for all 3, I know it's gonna happen, probably christmas.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1tlqpic/square_enix_has_posted_eight_unlisted_videos_on/onm3duq/Sorry bros, just delisted dq7 videos...
>>739558495"Reddit spacing" is a newfag meme created by people who didn't use 4chan until after Reddit got popular.
>>739557917you on the right
>>739564836>>739565068>I'll get DQ3 remaster on a deep discount.>I'm waiting for $60 for all 3,you can easily pirate these. what are you waiting for? you know you could die tomorrow? take advantage of what life has to offer while you still can. square enix will survive without you're money
>>739567443I already have, but would like to buy them to show support for the series and incentivize further development, but not at the ridiculous prices they're offering right now.
>>739565676me on the rightDQXII on the left
All I want is a new DQM that lets me get my Husbando
>>739568019ok i see. that is admirable of you. i will defintely be buying 12 when (if) it comes out, but the re(de)makes feel like robbery at the ridiculous prices, as you've mentioned
>>739567443Imagine all the vile things Merchants would let you do to them, provided you have the Gold for it.
>>739560371Over 50% of all the Dragon Quest games are censored because the localization is just a full on rewrite. Yet people like you praise the changes as "flavor" and "an improvement over the Japanese." But then they change one costume to be less revealing and you go crazy. They started altering clothing because people didn't complain when they altered characters names and entire personalities.
>>739568615its fun to think about. do you think akira toriyama designed her or was it one of his lackeys? i read somewhere that he didn't even know who the fuck broly was lol
>>739561272There's images out there already where she's naked except for her hat and cape.
>>739556505TRANSLATE X YOU FUCKERS
It feels wrong to continue this franchise with akira toriyama not being around anymore. Also the censorship of the recent titles is incredibly disrepectful. I dont know how anyone is excited for this.
>>739556505>8 unlisted videosAll of them short videos to announce DQVIII Reimagined
>>7395565058 remakes
>>739556505My body is ready. This is the part where I would post my DQ 11 picture collection, but I moved stuff around my 6 HDDs and now I don't know where it went.
>>739558134I tried the 7 remake but man it's so fucking boring. The gameplay is just trash. I also tried the 3 remake and it's also garbage, it's unreal how hard FF1 mogs it.
Jessica marriage on Steam soon?
>>739556505Is there a stream time?
>>7395703631989
For me it’s Maya
>trying to have a dragon quest thread on /v/hahahahaha
for me, it's Minea
>>739556505All mobile games, spinoffs, shitty remakes and ports.
>>739558495>You will never be a man.>You will never be white.This isn't the place to give voice to your internal pep talks, lil bro.
>>739556505What DQ is the best?
>>739574352They used to be the most civil and fun threads. Then Dragon Quest got popular and the localization fags took over.>>739574693It's entirely opinion based. But I'd say 8. Many people will say 3, 5, 9 or 11. Usually the first one they played.
>>739574693DQ Monsters Joker 3 Professional
>>73957469311, it's just the most fleshed out with the best gameplay. Some people say it's too long but I liked the 3rd act.
>>739574926The remake of Dragon Quest II is also a contender now. it's amazing how they took arguably the worst DQ game and made it on the level of Dragon Quest III and IV.
>>739575846Eh...depends on what you like about the games. It's got the most cutscenes and story. But it's certainly not "fleshed out" in exploration and item collecting. Older DQ games did those a lot better. Dragon Quest XI is like the Twilight Princess of the series. Some people like that Zelda the most. But not everyone.
Dragon Quest Heroes 3 soon.
>>73957469311 is objectively the most interesting because it's the only video game out there to be basically a classic early 90s JRPG with big budget modern AAA production values. That's what gets me about it, being a 2010s SE game where you're going around unironically smashing pots.
>>739556505fucking finally hopefully it's not another remake somehow
>>739576585>11 is objectively the most interesting because it's the only video game out there to be basically a classic early 90s JRPG with big budget modern AAA production values. Dragon Quest VIII did that first. One of the highest quality/budget PS2 games. And far closer to 90s JRPGs. Dragon Quest XI is more like a modern JRPG than older ones with its focus on cutscenes, voiced dialogue, melodrama and linear point-to-point triggers instead of open exploration. Dragon Quest XI is closer to Final Fantasy XII and XIII than classic DQ.
>>739576585it's a bit of a shame that the way they implemented the monsters on the field is so poorly done, they had already figured it out with 9 but went back to the way they did it in 8 3DS, it completely kills all the dungeons in the game
>>739574693V (I am definitely not the ghost of Abe begging you to start a family)
>>739576960PS2 isn't modern11 didn't originally have voice actingSome of the earlier DQ are more melodramatic than 11I don't even know what you mean by 'open exploration' literally every DQ game has a linear plot (least of what I've played) apart from like VII where you can choose the order you do the islands in (not that it ultimately matters)Anyway, I am talking more about aesthetics and general premise over finer gameplay points, lest we claim that something like Persona 5 counts as a classic early 90s JRPG because of its combat system
>>739576207>>739576960You keep saying random shit but that doesn't make it true.
More Builders please
Aside from news about XII I'd really love an english version of the DQX Solo release.
>>739556505I hope it's an action rpg AND Playstation exclusive just because I want to see how Square eternally trapped in a Stockholm situation with Sony.
>>739556505>8 videos>will surely be >>739558684>still no DQIX port or remakeTRAPPED AND BETRAYED ON NDS
We better get news even just a glimpse of the main character >:(
*plz don't make it an action game*
>>739561470>All of these sold more than 1M in the switch in japan aloneWe actually know exactly what all of those sold on Switch in Japan.DQ3 did sell a million.1&2 and 7 were maybe 300K~, I think a bit less as overall, on all three consoles, the two only sold about 500K~.This remake drive has probably been one of the biggest misfires in franchise history, as these are the first remakes to not actually cross the million sales mark.
>>739574926>Then Dragon Quest got popularIt didn't
>>739577285>PS2 isn't modernIt was when the series made the transition to 3D. And people like you keep saying Dragon Quest 11 is the same as 8. But now it's not? Make up your mind.>11 didn't originally have voice actingNeither did Dragon Quest 8 when it first came out. The difference is, Dragon Quest 11 on PS4 was actually designed from the start to have voice acting. But because Horii kept altering things right up to launch, they didn't add voice acting to the first release. They outright said they planned to put it in the upcoming Switch and PC releases. This can be seen by how the cutscenes were developed for voice acting.>Some of the earlier DQ are more melodramatic than 11Please explain how. Dragon Quest 2 and 7 have melodrama. But they're presented in entirely different ways. It's not just that events are dramatic. The content of the story and the pre rendered cutscenes in 11 take them to a whole other level. To the point they make the hero look stupid, standing there and letting the same events happen, despite him specifically going back in time to stop those events, all so they could have a melodramatic cutscene. This is what I mean by melodrama. Guess I should say lack of agency and plot drives the characters.
>>739578361All I'm getting from this post and your earlier posts is that you're a passive aggressive sperg that has a hate boner for 11.
>>739577285>I don't even know what you mean by 'open exploration' literally every DQ game has a linear plot (least of what I've played) apart from like VII where you can choose the order you do the islands in (not that it ultimately matters)Most DQ games have more passive storytelling where you seek it out. Finding NPCs to talk to until the story trigger happens, being given vague directions to go north or "the next town" and finding story events along the way, etc. Dragon Quest 9 and 11 started adding more modern "conveniences" where a blue bubble appears over the NPC that will start the next story event or a story event just triggers automatically when entering a town. Hence why I compared DQ11 to Final Fantasy 12 and 13.Dragon Quest 11 is also sorely lacking in amount of items to find. Enter even a small town in Dragon Quest 8 and you'll find at least 1 item in each building, and like 10-15 in the rest of the town. Go to the biggest town in all of Dragon Quest 11, which is the first major town, and there's a grand total of 6 items to find in the whole place. Despite it being 5x bigger than the biggest place in DQ8. There's tons of pots/barrels/cupboards/bags to search. But like 80% of them are just empty. And this continues over the whole game. It's baffling. It's like the developers just forgot to add items. This might not be a big deal to some players. But since so many earlier DQ games had a lot of items to find, some people associate that with DQ. Horii in interviews even said item collection was one of the three main pillars of what makes a DQ game to him. But Dragon Quest 9 and 11 are really lacking for some reason. And it's so much worse in 11 because of how huge the world is. It just makes the world feel empty as you have little reward for exploring.>>739577932Dragon Quest X is the remake of IX. We just didn't get it in the west because Square management was trying to bury Dragon Quest for three console generations.
>>739569038yeah i love that shit, LOLalso some of the accents are downright offensive (hilarious!)
>>739578438All I'm getting from your post is you want to resort to ad hominem rather than addressing my points. Believe it or not I don't hate DQ11. I've played it four times and bought all the various releases that came out. But I also have some issues with it. And also get tired of people saying it's exactly like DQ8. Because it's not for the various reasons I'm laying out. Heck, it's not even similar graphically.
>>739578650It's not exactly like 8, it's better.
>>739578682Feel free to explain why it's better. But something tells me you don't actually know. You just "feel" like it's better. Or you're just saying it because you think it'll make me mad. I actually don't get mad when people like 11 more. I fully understand some people want different things from an RPG. And Final Fantasy fans will probably like games like DQ7 and 11 a lot more than the others. I just actually take the time to dissect why.
>>739578808Better combat, better progression systems and combat customization.
>>739577372I thought about a city sim based on builders called Dragon Quest Towns once. But yeah I want Builders 3 with a job system.
>>739578361>And people like you keep saying Dragon Quest 11 is the same as 8I don't know what that means. I've never played 8. Regardless, it's obvious that the point I'm making here is that there's a marked difference between an early 2000s AAA game and a mid 2010s AAA game>Please explain howI don't know, play 5? Regardless, if your point is about how the events are depicted, then sure, I guess, but I took the lack of cutscenes to drive the emotion home more as a product of limitations rather than intentional design>>739578457Oh, so you're not talking about the structure of the game, you're talking about UI elements and item density. Which basically has nothing to do with the point being made. The fact that XI even has a "world map" is more of what I'm talking about, I can't think of any other 2010s AAA game that does.
>>739578872>The fact that XI even has a "world map" is more of what I'm talking about, I can't think of any other 2010s AAA game that does.It has a "world map" in the same way a game like Final Fantasy 12 and 13 does. Linear zone areas rather than a true open world. And older DQ games have open worlds. As well as all the things like the freedom to find NPCs/Items at your own pace. While 11 guides you to the next cutscene on a linear path.The irony is, Final Fantasy has started to go towards open worlds again while Dragon Quest is going more linear paths. Though I'm not saying a game is good just because it has an open world. FF15 and 16 suck hard and Dragon Quest 11 is still better. But the point still stands that the JRPG series that basically made open worlds standard has been going away from them since DQ9.
>>739578837>Better combat>combat customizationThe one thing DQ8 and 11 are similar in is combat. 11 has a few more skills and classes per character. But otherwise it's pretty much the same.>better progressionI very much disagree. But I've already written long posts explaining why. And you're still welcome to your opinion if you like the more linear way 11 does it. But even a lot of 11 fans think the game becomes a slog in act 2 or 3 so...
>>739579231There's that passive aggressive bitterness again.
>>739557043They care about gambling for jpegs
>>739579276There's that ad hominem again.
>>739558443He was. Back when he was actually involved with games the pushback only game from christian puritans. He probably has no idea of the political shifts in America over the last 15 years
>>739579276>presenting opinions and facts are an attack!Shouldn't you be on BlueSky?
>>739579434But that is the less /v/ relevent part of the interview. Horii's complaint had nothing to do with Christian-imposed censorship.
>>739558443>The concept of sex education that comes from religious ideas in the West is prevalent in America. Their view on compliance is really narrow.
Gemma!
>>739579621What he didn't realize is the puritans of the last 25 years have been the exact opposite. Extreme leftists who hate religion. But are repeating the same censorship of things they deem lewd (and much worse than the Christians did). And most of the time they don't actually have a problem with the sex. They look the other way when a western game or something on Netflix does it. But then go ballistic when Japan/anime does it. It's just they can't control Japanese media so they're trying to cancel it.
best boy
>>739581275get off the keyboard, Jade...
>>739579815Hey quit posting my wife!
>>739579423She’s cute
>>739579815CRIKEY
>>739580101>And much worse than the Christians didLol
>>739556505Those were delisted DQ7 Remake videos.There’s nothing happening on DQ Day. If there was a stream it would’ve been announced already.
>>739579107XI is completely open in act 3 they don't tell you where all the side stuff is you just know you need to beat the dark one up in the sky.
i see the most coomer leftist degenerates everyday on xwitter and the most coomer chud degenerates everyday here
Was gifted DQ7R from a friend recently. Haven’t played yet but looking forward to it.
>>739582797Sounds like a good time
>>739556505>8 videosDQ4 HD-2DDQ5 HD-2DDQ6 HD-2Dnew DQX expacDQ8 remake in the style of 7'snew dogshit spinoff nobody is going to care about, like the treasure gamesmobile game that will hit EOS in a yeara new updated DQ12 logo, no gameplay
>>739558134The remakes took a series that was already easy and made it for actual toddlers. You used to be able to die in the first few dungeons of DQ3 for example, now you have to deliberately try to. From everything I heard and from the bit of the demo I played, DQ7 made this problem even worse. No wonder it flopped. Easy games can be fun but a menu simulator needs something to keep you engaged, yet they decided to take away the difficulty and tension of navigating a dungeon while not adding anything in its place to compensate
>>739582541He's not wrong. The current puritans on the left are getting far more stuff cancelled. Things actually got more raunchy and lewd in Hollywood/media during the time the Christians were supposedly in control. Now you're entire game can get banned just for having a character under age 18. Even if she's fully clothed and no sexuality at all. A couple people on Twitter scream and moan and Sony delists the whole game. And those people screaming aren't Christians...
>>739583171Retarded epsteinclass lemming.
>>739583019Dragon Quest I-III HD are actually harder than the GBC/SFC remakes. Not so much in the beginning. But in the second half of the game they definitely are because of many factors. People were whining DQ1 remake is too hard because only one playable character, multiple monsters in battle, new late game monsters and bosses added, etc. And they increased the difficulty of II because of an extra playable character. And then they added terrible post games that make you grind to max level.
>>739556505Wake me up if they announce a new DQM game. Dark Prince was extremely disappointing.
>>739583171What game was delisted for having a character under 18?
>>739583326The irony in this post is off the charts. But it must be nice to be so ignorant.
>>739583371Senran Kagura, Omega Labyrinth Z, Doki Doki, to name just a few. Notice how it always seems to be anime games. But they don't do it to western games or Last of Us 2 (which literally has a sex scene with two minors).
>>739583330>Dragon Quest I-III HD are actually harder than the GBC/SFC remakesI only played NES DQ1 and 3, but I did play DQ2 on the SNES and thought the difficulty was just right outside of the endgame. I did hear that DQ3 HD gets harder later on but at least early it's extremely boring, the boomerang alone breaks the game.
>>739583534>senran kagurawhich ones, Steam is running a sale for all the ones on there right now, 70% off. Doki Doki lit club is also still there. I'll give you Omega Labyrinth Z, but the newest game Life is still listed on steam. >or Last of Us 2 (which literally has a sex scene with two minors).it does not have a sex scene with two minors
>>739583581DQIII HD is also boring early on because of pacing issues. The original and SFC games were super fast. You could explore areas in seconds because of sprite movement. But when they made areas into full 3D, suddenly it took 10x longer just to walk around. And you have to autistically search every single spot for hidden items. Things that took 30 seconds in the old games now take 2-5 minutes. And it really accumulates over time to kill the pacing of the game.Dragon Quest I and II HD really improved on this though. Less hidden stuff and areas are designed better.
>>739583765>steamI said Sony.>it does not have a sex scene with two minorsTwo girls "experimenting" with each other is not sexual? It's still far more racey than some of the anime games Sony has blocked or censored.
>>739583171Yep, they're far worse than Christians who were sopposedly 'in control' in the early 90's whilst a lot of raunchy things was in media. Christians wouldn't remove April's flying peach move in Shredder's Revenge, but leftists did.They want to eliminate feminity (promote ugly transgender pandering designs), hate the most basic and milquetoast heterosexual male gaze, hate the family unit, children, hate hetero-normative relationships etc. That's why Christian youtubers actually side with the chuds on a lot of these things.
>>739557941Aibuka, my favourite hentai. I've fapped to it hundreds of times and cum pools full of jizz to Yuzu's tiny body, god I want her holes all to myself
What I want>everything exactly the same as dq11 but a new story
You guys think XII will have an action battle system like those 2 articles said when it was announced 5 years ago?
>>73957036388 has the best style
>>739584073lol. after expedition 33's sucecss?
>>739583897It was also democrats like Lieberman and Al Gore who spearheaded the gaming rating system. Specifically citing Mortal Kombat. But we're all gaslit into thinking it's conservative Christians who did it.I'm not even trying to defend Christians. I'm just trying to get people to recognize where the censorship comes from so they can complain about it correctly. Regulation and censorship is the biggest tool of the left/socialists.
>>739583171that's not the left, that's the banks.
>>739584127Would they really be able to pivot after 4 years in development?
>>739584073Horii announced long ago it's still going to be turn based. Just that he was thinking of "doing something new with the same system." The idiot western journalists heard "something new" and turned it into "OMG Dragon Quest to have Souls Like combat!" (yes, this was an actual article title)You do not hate gaming "journalists" enough. You think you do, but you don't.
>>739584162the reason they went radio silent all those years ago is cause japs got pissed off after the announcement of a western action combat system. unless SE is even more retarded than they already are, there's no way they didn't do a 180 on that.
>>739584073that was obvious doomer bs, nips would burn horii's house down if they tried it.
>>739584160There's a difference?
>>739583897Hello. I am a leftist and love April O’Neil and her butt move. I’m actually a TMNT fan in general. I got really fixated on them and on Krang specifically in middle school. I would watch Kraang/Krang clips (I think the original cartoon spells it “Krang,” while other versions use “Kraang”) and look at fan art all day. It became a bit bothersome for my family because I was doing Krang impressions so often.One day, my mom’s boyfriend at the time told me his friend wanted to challenge me to a “Krang-off” because his impression was supposedly really good, so I said okay. Some months later, I finally met his friend. We were both standing in a small corner of a cramped room at a party or something. He did his part and it was not good. It just did not sound like Krang. He lacked the mannerisms and vocal ticks that I had studied for my impression. That is when I realized it did not matter whether I was the best or not, because the fact that this was considered competition meant there was no actual professional on the jury.But all in all, I am asking you to stop believing generalizations.
>>739584232>the reason they went radio silent all those years ago is cause japs got pissed off after the announcement of a western action combat system.He never announced that at all. It was a mistranslation from a western journalist. Who later admitted they got it wrong. But of course millions of people heard the lie and like a dozen heard the retraction.
>>739584357That has nothing to do with my point though. The point is there were articles stating it would be action combat and those articles reached the japs which caused them to blow their lid. Whether or not it was true is irrelevant. They've been radio silent on DQ since then. This is literally the first time since the action combat scare that we're going to hear anything about it.
>>739584243They already tried to have action combat in Dragon Quest IX on DS. The fan outcry was so huge they delayed the game and made it turn based. Since then he's never said he wants to do action combat in a mainline game again. He also doesn't need to because there's a dozen spin off DQ games with action combat.
>>739584275nose length
>>739583836>Two girls "experimenting" with each other is not sexual?they aren't minors
>>739584289Nta butYou're just one person. The left in general does think fanservice is problematic. >stop believing generalizations. What a stupid thing to say. There are plenty of general statements which are true.
:)
>>739563890Only coomers (i.e. non-fans like yourself) care about dumb shit like that. Fuck off.
>>739558134>>739561140>it flopped because of muh steam chartsBraindead retard
>>739584709Please stop acting dumb as rocks.
>>739584709there's a big * you're neglecting to mention when it comes to sexualiation/fanservice, and that's the notion that "the left" dislikes it when it pertains to underaged characters, or characters who are not characterized as flirtatious flaunting their sexuality. People don't care about Bayonetta's fanservice, because that's her whole schtick. of course fanservice/sexualization can serve other means, like commentary on the exploitation of young vunerable women by their bosses in the idol industry. TMS is rather infamous for censoring a whole bunch of minor sexual characteristics (the vagina bones, if you will) and rewriting entire sections of game to avoid the topic at hand.
>>739557043No. The average kid in Japan doesn't give a damn about DQ. The people playing these games are getting older and older.
>>739561470Only DQ3 sold a million. The others did not.
>>739557043no, but that's because they basically aren't releasing anymore so someone who was say 10 when they played DQXI for the first time has gotten exactly 0 new titles since, and they are now 19. they didn't have a childhood defined by frequent DQ releases, like older people were.
>>739556505If one of the videos is the death by firing squad of the localization department I will buy their games.
>>739557917Put that shit down anon, it will NOT be the proudest boner.
>>739585028>lose two cultural touchstones because someone thought having a almost decade between mainline releases was okayWhat was Square thinking?
https://youtu.be/WgIpdUR4Ac4?si=PYJ5TJGaSva_t3Lm
>>739570765I don't think they've even officially announced a stream yet. We just know there's going to be one because Horii said so on some private livestream, along with the hidden videos they put up on the youtube channel
>>739558960I love Dragon Quest Daisy!
>>739585023>the left" dislikes it when it pertains to underaged charactersNo? I also see lefties complain about marvel rivals characters, stellar blade, lords of the fallen 2 bikini armor, etc. You always see lefties complain whenever a high profile game has fanservice. >or characters who are not characterized as flirtatious flaunting their sexualityYou don't need to be outwardly flirtatious to be hot. Women in real life dress sexy without flirting with everyone. There's degrees to this. It's not as though every instance of sexy character design is hyper slutty or somethingAnyways, I also see lefties complain about characters like black cat.
>>739556505Only game I'm interested in/want a remaster.
>>739585023>People don't care about Bayonetta's fanservice, because that's her whole schtick.Bad example because Bayonetta was one of the big ones they tried to cancel for "male gaze" a few years ago when Bayonetta 3 was announced. And then they got mocked because Bayonetta was designed by a woman. Same thing happened with Shantae and Stellar Blade. So many times they rush to cancel something without even doing 5 minutes of research. And yes, it's just a very small group of people. The 0.01% of the 1% of idiots on Twitter. But the companies cave to them. So that 0.01% of people has more influence than millions of conservative Christians used to have during the so called puritan era.
>>739585023Also>BayonettaThat game came out on 2009. That's before all of this discourse started.
>>739584837>doesn't care about the game's original contentfuck off, fake fan faggot.
>>739585475It got a remake on 3DS. Japan only of course.
>>739574693I've played 1-5 and 7 3DS so far and 5 was my favorite
>>739585442ok see your problem is that you took one statement and split it into two so you could ignore the whole thing to nitpick instead. people don't like Rivals skins and Stellar Blade because they are what I describe, the sexualization of female characters that would not behave that way normally. Stellar Blade's sexualization is empty and vapid, it serves not to give Eve character because she has no character, she is an action barbie you dress up. THAT is what people on the left dislike. sexualization with agency - good, sexualization with 0 agency or characterization - bad
>>739585535bayo 3's discourse is just mad yurifags who are pissed that Bayo got with a dude, and can be safely ignored.
Okay, they're probably planning remakes of IV through VI if they get the opportunity and the initial trilogy did well enough, we got the XII stuff, fine, fineSo why do we still not get DQX in any capacity whatsoever over here
>>739585442And I have right-wing friends who claim they’re free speech but don’t shut the fuck up about wanting that Hasan guy to be banned forever or Hazbin Hotel because it’s promoting satanism, even though they watch and listen to other edgy devil shit all the time. And don’t worry, I also have leftist friends who also get uppity about things I think are absolutely ridiculous. But for your own future observance of the world, I implore you to not view things with the narrow scope of a custom Xwitter feed.
>>739585552this discourse has existed long before that, but you are a child so I forgive you
>>739577932Just give this the graphical update and you have my money. I loved that game. It's a bit letdown that there are no uniques of each class that you may recruit but overall great game.
>>739585671Except that they also complained about black cat, who is characterized as flirtatious anyways. And also catwoman from the Arkham games. Characters like Eve and rpg characters are supposed to be avatars for the player.>AgencyThat's fallacious in the first place. Video game characters don't have agency as a whole. Especially not player avatars like an rpg or mmo custom character.>she is an action barbie you dress up.That's what all game protagonists are fundamentally. They are dolls you play with.
>>739559372>>739560371>>739563890>>739585632>NOOOOO NOT MY HECKING UNNOTICABLE CENSORED PIXELS THAT I CAN TOTALLY TELL APART WHEN IM STANDING 6 FEET AWAY FROM MY TV!!!!
>>739585790>So why do we still not get DQX in any capacity whatsoever over hereWhen the game was new, SquareEnix was in its big kick to ignore Dragon Quest. Fast forward about 5 years later and Wada finally got kicked out, replaced with new management. The new managers started to greenlight localization of DQ games to the west again. Even promising every future game would be released worldwide (which they immediately failed to do with the very next title). But the point is, they started trying with DQ again. But wouldn't release any of the games before 2014 (when the new management came in). So there's a huge chunk of Wii, DS and 3DS games they just wouldn't consider. DQX is one of those.Of course they still could have. I've written many times about how DQX has a huge chance to not only succeed by itself, but could help their other MMOs. Release DQX expansions in between dry spells of FFXIV. And let people play both with the same subscription. DQX also has the unique ability to be an MMO that releases a huge amount of the games content at the start, so people don't complain about lack of content. Or it could release everything like the original did, but just only 3 months between releases instead of a year.But all of this is pointless because they just decided nothing before 2014 will get localized. The only exception was Dragon Quest VII Remake on 3DS. And that happened because Horii "messed up" and announced it. Square tried to deny it, but then released it a year later out of embarrassment.
>>739585991>Except that they also complained about black cat, who is characterized as flirtatious anyways. And also catwoman from the Arkham games. yeah man and the correct thing to do when you see someone being stupidly wrong is to ignore them, not let them live rent free in your head for years and pretend they represent an entire school of thought. especially when you see that dumb shit on twitter and it has like 1 retweet and 5 likes, which is often the case with twitter threads here.>Characters like Eve and rpg characters are supposed to be avatars for the player.this is only true for some games. Geralt is not an avatar of the player, he is a set character with his own ideals and personality. Eve falls into this category, Stellar Blade is a not a CRPG with loads of dialogue options for you to roleplay a character after all.
>>739586029I don't condone censorship in any form. But while it's stupid they altered these sprites, those alterations are a massively smaller issue than the other changes/censorship the localizations do. None of them should be done. But people really should be more mad about name changes, scenes getting cut and total rewrites of the dialogue. Instead, they only notice when it's a visual change.
>>739586262>yeah man and the correct thing to do when you see someone being stupidly wrong is to ignore themWe ignore them. The companies don't however and cave to their pressure. This means we have to start policing them or complain to the company even louder than the censorship people do.We basically spent decades just ignoring them until they started actually affecting the games.
>>739586320I promise you Steven Universe fan #420 is not altering the course of the gaming industry with their scathing hot takes that all of 4 people have seen. look to the people in charge of these studios and not random nobodies please I am begging you
I like adult Veronica.
>>739586445>>739586320and to further this point, you posting on here about Steven Universe fan #420 isn't going to counteract their supposed influence. you have both tricked yourselves into thinking your internet posts have a tangible effect on the most profitable entertainment industry on the planet.
>>739585790They're definitely going to do 4-6 remakes, Horii basically confirmed it after 7R came out. On some stream or something, they asked him why they skipped 4-6 and did 7 and he said that they have all sorts of things happening and 7 just happened to be first.>So why do we still not get DQX in any capacity whatsoever over hereShip's sailed, DQX is huge and translating it now would be the equivalent of translating multiple full length DQ games and they likely don't see any financial merit in it. Before you bring up DQX Offline, it only covers the first 2 versions out of 8 and it's really just an ad to try and get new players into the online version. DQX has a full English patch though and they don't even IP block the US, so people can just play it or use a VPN if they really want to so I have no idea why people still complain.Version 8 is confirmed to be the end of the story so best case scenario is they just make another DQ MMO in the future.
>>739586262>Stellar Blade is a not a CRPG with loads of dialogue options for you to roleplay a character after all.Lords of the fallen 2 does fall into this category, it doesn't have a named protagonist. You create your own character.And yet journos still complained about it. Also, you don't need to be a crpg for the protagonist to be a blank slate. >Just ignore every example that proves me wrong! Lol. Also, the agency stuff is a flimsy excuse. Because like I said, no game characters have agency. And you fags would complain about tame shit as well. Like a character wearing yoga pants or just having a curvy figure. I've seen examples of both.
>>739586559Journos complain about this stuff too, and they have more influence
>>739556505>Expecting anything out of SEHere's what your "Dragon Quest Day" announcements are going to be:>Another teaser for 12 that amounts to nothing>One Dragon Quest HD-2D remake that looks like shit>Updates for the shit DQ gachas>Dragon Quest peepee poopoo - a brand new entry in the endless DQ low effort gachas that shut down in 6-8 months>Dragon Quest overpriced merchEnjoy.
>>739556505>FOUR NIGGAS IN A ROWI'm ready, gamers.
>>739586641>muh game journos Lords of the Fallen Poo has much larger problems, and journos are inclined to be mad at the dipshit devs anyway for leaning into the culture war nonsense to begin with. you're looking at professional outrage merchants and getting outraged by their outrage. just two stupid dogs barking at each other. >Also, you don't need to be a crpg for the protagonist to be a blank slate. sure but to take something like a JRPG for example, usually they have those blank slates be totally silent, so you can self insert. Eve once again, does not fit this criteria. she is a set character. Why are we trying to pretend otherwise exactly?
>>739586445Sgteven Universe is a bad example to use because Rebecca Sugar was one of those rabid idiots who drew Deviantat porn and complained about the industry. And she was hired specifically because of that. Then went on to start the woke stuff in Adventure Time and then make Steven Universe.The people you're telling me to look at in the industry are directly connected to the woke activists on Twitter/Blue Sky. They ARE those people. The companies hire them to be producers and HR managers and that's what leads to the games being censored/ruined.
>>739586685they have the perception of influence, but in the end don't actually hold any I don't think. they're an advertising branch basically. Giant Bomb famously was formed because Gerstman couldn't give Kane and Lynch a good review, and he got canned for it. Testers have more influence on a game's dumbing down than a journalist does I promise you.
>>739586537act 3's biggest sin was not giving a quest to cure her.
Please, DQ Builders 3I know the team is all but gone, but please it's all I want
>>739586169>>739586608It's honestly frustrating because of how much of the series is either stuck in shitty Warrior localizations (early Monsters games) or never came over, and because it's old materials they have zero interest in capitalizing on anything, even when XI did better than expected in the west. A western fan wants to get into the series legitimately? Modern platforms give them the remakes and that's kind of it if you aren't hunting down old systems and collector copies at this rate. And entire swaths of the franchise will never get put on anything, much less localized. Literally the only way to enjoy most of this franchise at this rate is finding copies online and probably emulating unless you know how to burn things onto physical media or flashcarts. I'm a newer fan, I'm not gonna pretend I'm anything else than that, and I've had to pile my own collection together of the series, but damn does it suck for most people.
>>739587132Now that Pokopia is finished there might be a chance. The DQ Builders team are at Omega Force in Koei Tecmo now.
>>739587004I'm pretty sure ability to produce a show also came into play here you know. like sugar didn't get hired solely because they posted wokely enough, otherwise every major studio on this planet wouldn't be crushing their employees to dust with crunch because they'd all be wokely working on these projects. you are falling for rainbow capitalism
>DQ3 is the only one where you can have a party of Amazons
>>739586958>you're looking at professional outrage merchants and getting outraged by their outrage.Yeah but they have influence. And ultimately they are part of the reason why Western games don't have sexy women anymore. >EveShe's a set character, yes. But her default outfit is a basic scifi bodysuit. Not overly sexual. Either way Eve is not the only character I am concerned with. You tried to handwave away all the other examples I gave, because you have no argument. Also, you have not addressed anything else I said about how video game characters all fundamentally lack agency.
>>739587268>like sugar didn't get hired solely because they posted wokely enoughShe got hired because Pendleton Ward, the creator of Adventure Time, saw some of her deviantart and contacted her. And there's heavy implications they had a fling going on. But regardless she went from having zero experience in the industry, not even a low level animation credit, to suddenly being a co director on Adventure Time. And then getting her own show greenlit.And the Korean studio who worked on Steven Universe said she was terrible at her job. Couldn't draw basic storyboards and sometimes would even just send them 1-2 page treatments of what an episode should be. And they had to finish it. But by all means, go ahead and keep thinking that people in Hollywood are actually hiring talented people on merit.
>>739577932>those designsHoly sex.
>>739585650And it.Is.Fantastic.
Just wanted to pop in and say FUCK this nigger biggest load of bullshit I have ever fought straight rng garbage
>>739587564sure and you can go ahead and keep thinking all entertainment is made by the wokes because the company twitter changes to a rainbow during pride month lmao
>>739587214Welcome to enjoying Japanese media. This is what anime fans have basically be struggling with for 40 years. Even when a product gets massively popular outside Japan, the company just won't support it. Dragon Quest is in this terrible middle zone where it's clearly popular enough to support. Spin off games sell half a million and main series games sell over a million. But SquareEnix thinks anything that sells less than 6 million isn't worth it. Unless it's a Final Fantasy game that tanks and they make excuses for it. Because the idea of long term IP support kicks in for Final Fantasy. But not Dragon Quest.
>>739587693I don't think all entertainment is. But are you seriously implying Steven Universe isn't woke? The biggest LGBT/Gay show of last decade? Made by a literal rainbow haired woman who openly pushes wokism?
>>739587687Is that his main story form or the post game version? The main story is decently hard but not RNG. Everything in the post game can fuck off.
>>7395746939 followed by 7 and 65, 8 and 11 are the unholy trinity of reddit/poser-core slop>>739575239that turd was soulless in comparison to Monsters Kino 1 & 2
>>739587860Main story at the end and it is completely RPG if you don’t want to autistically grind your ass off beforehand, I made it all the way there relatively easily and this bitch stonewalled me even with anti sleep shit on it was just>sleep>flame breath>sleepThis faggot could just kill me after one turn if it wanted to just endlessly sleep and burn me while it healed.
>>739588152>RPGRNG* fuck
>>739588025DQM1 is shit and DQM2 is decent but the polarity system sucks dick.
I'll finally play Dragon Quest if the music is good now that they'll have a new composer. With all the respect to the late composer
>>739580101>and much worse than the Christians didAll of these porn sites getting banned are done by christians. The texas senate bill 20 that bans loli (drawings) was done made by christians. The vice president who is a christian said he wants to ban porn.
>>739588245With no respect to the late composer. Sugiyama's music has been bland phoned-in dogshit since DQ4 and his copyright trolling has repeatedly fucked over new releases for NO reason. His death might unitonically be the best thing to happen to this series.
>>739588245>I'll finally play Dragon Quest if the music is good nowIt was good in Dragon Quest 1-8. You shouldn't play it if you didn't like those. The new composer will likely take up that style and reuse a lot of the old themes.
>>739585632The original still exists faggot.
>>739578457>We just didn't get it in the west because Square management was trying to bury Dragon Quest for three console generations.We didn't get it because nobody buys DQ and SE made the first smart decision of their entire existence by not bringing over DQX.Had DQX released in the west, it would've bombed horribly and been EOS after a year or two, just for the few simple factors of>people were already getting burned on MMOs and sticking to their favourite ones / the ones they invested the most in>Dragon Quest as an IP wasn't popular>the Wii's internet connection was shit outside Japan, so people would get doubly burned playing it on there, and if that version didn't get localized then the majority of the few western DQ players wouldn't be touching DQXIt was DOA and SE made the right choice pulling the fucking plug.I don't get this idea that they were "trying to bury" DQ for three console generations either. Maybe one console generation, and specifically just the 3DS, PS4 still got every DQ game, but it wasn't to bury DQ. It was because nobody was buying DQ. SE didn't want to waste resources on hardware that was made sketchy compared to the DS (keep in mind, when the 3DS launched and for a while after, it seemed like the Vita was going to be serious competition and the phone market was killing handhelds), so they didn't try bringing over a series that had consistently low sales outside Japan. Do you really fucking think people were gonna go crazy over>Dragon Quest Monsters>Dragon Quest Monsters 2>Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3And I'd say they were right to not want to release 7, 8, and 11 as well. I still don't get why they went through with releasing 11 honestly.
>>739588245this but for the art style
>>739558443>>739579434>>739579609The person in the video is Torishima, who isn't involved with game localization. He's likely talking about his time being in charge of Jump, which was in the late 90s/early 00s, where he would've had to deal with manga being censored for western release to appease what were, in fact, Christian fundamentalist groups. The yaoi/yuri scenes in Naruto, nudity in Yu Yu Hakusho, nudity and usages of "Satan" in Dragon Ball, etc etc., he would've seen and been involved with that.>inb4 something about how Torishima was actually talking about the medium he was never involved inAnyone who actually reads his interviews should know that he's a master at making every conversation about himself and his specific views. I'm surprised people jerk him off so much considering his views probably would send the average poster here into a seething rage.
I hope the English translation and dub aren't utterly weird and retarded for once. I hope they didn't just make it into some kind of action game. I hope it's good.
>>739588378>We didn't get it because nobody buys DQDragon Quest 8 and 9 both sold over a million in the west.>y-yeah, well that's not enough!It is. Notice how they're supporting DQ games even spin offs that only sell 300-500k. Because guess what. It's making money. DQ sells more than series like Mana or SaGa or Traveler or basically anything but FF/KH.>Had DQX released in the west, it would've bombed horribly and been EOS after a year or twoIt might have. Or it might have done well. You don't know. Your reasons given below are laughably bad, considering this was over 12 years ago when MMOs were still popular and they also had a PC version. Which didn't do well in Japan. It was made entirely for the foreign market. And the only place they ended up releasing it was in China.But it being an MMO with all its development costs already covered by the Japanese release means it could do very low numbers, even as low as 150k concurrent players, and make millions. All the cost would just be the localization and server costs. Which are very low compared to the initial game development costs (and would be offset by it being a subscription service). If they were smart they would have also 1) let people play using their FFXIV subscription and 2) use some of the FFXIV servers which were low on population after the peak of the game. Especially since between Heavensward and Stormblood the game was at its lowest playerbase.But of course I'm sure you're going to come up with a snappy comeback that totally addresses all these points.
>>739588357>Sugiyama's music has been bland phoned-in dogshit since DQ4 and his copyright trolling has repeatedly fucked over new releases for NO reasonThis is not true in the slightest. It was literally all Square being jews and not wanting to pay for orchestra versions, of an orchestra Sugiyama OWNED AND RAN.
>>739588746>Dragon Quest 8 and 9 both sold over a million in the west.Now actually look up how many games were actually released in that time, who did the advertising on 9, and what DQ8 in particular came with.>It is. Notice how they're supporting DQ games even spin offs that only sell 300-500k. Because guess what. It's making money. DQ sells more than series like Mana or SaGa or Traveler or basically anything but FF/KH.Maybe in Japan, but those series outsell DQ in international markets.>It might have. Or it might have done well. You don't know.I do. I listed several reasons why that would be the case. You probably weren't even alive 12 years ago considering you don't remember just how badly a lot of MMOs were crashing and burning at the time. TOR was the biggest one, but that was simply because it was the one with the most money and attention put on it. Your retarded bonus fanfiction about essentially giving the game away for free and having the servers be the leftovers of XIV's existing servers is also dumb. DQX never had a chance in the west and it especially doesn't have one now. Franchise MMOs generally need people invested in said franchise to get it off the ground, and DQ doesn't have a western base big enough to manage that.
>>739588378>I don't get this idea that they were "trying to bury" DQ for three console generations either.It was actually longer since they had been ignoring DQ since the SNES. But I'm specifically pointing out how they ignored the series since the PS2/Wii/PS3/Wii U eras. That's at least 2 1/2 generations.>It was because nobody was buying DQ. Already proven this wrong. Games were selling 400k-1.5 million outside Japan. Which is more than enough to support it...unless you're a company like SquareEnix that compares everything to their highest selling game. This is the same company who said a port of Chrono Trigger on DS selling 900k copies "showed there wasn't much demand for a new Chrono game." And cried that Tomb Raider selling 6 million was "below expectations.">Do you really fucking think people were gonna go crazy over Dragon Quest MonstersPerhaps, if the series had gotten consistent releases. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker on DS was also quite successful. Even generated online memes and hype. And they followed that up by...not releasing anything else for 10 years.Maybe, just maybe the reason DQ seems like it doesn't sell is because we get fucking 10-12 year droughts between games. And notice how since new management took over, we haven't been getting those droughts. And the series is rising in popularity. It's almost like there's a correlation between an IP getting popular and the amount of access the people have to it... And SE was actively ignoring DQ for decades. So it didn't get as popular as other series. But nah. You just believe in this circular narrative that it was never popular, therefore it should never get supported and then never get popular.
>>739587132>DQ Builders 3Please, Capcom! Please!
I'm honestly surprised at how many people are speaking favourably about DQIX in this thread.Are we now at the point where it was people's first DQ?
>>739588378>Do you really fucking think people were gonna go crazy over>Dragon Quest Monsters>Dragon Quest Monsters 2>Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3Yes? People fucking love DQM Joker, but they got annoyed because Queenix kept doing those "professional" releases and making them JP-only.
>>739588941>I do. I listed several reasons why that would be the case. And I listed several reasons the opposite could be true. But it's quite convenient how if you ignore all those examples and just resort to ad hominem, you can keep your head canon going.>You probably weren't even alive 12 years ago considering you don't remember just how badly a lot of MMOs were crashing and burning at the time.Like this. Also, I was there at launch day for both TORtanic and FFXIV. And notice how FFXIV did well after ts rocky start...because SquareEnix supported it. And Dragon Quest X didn't come out so...it didn't get popular. It's almost like there's a correlation between support and popularity... Dragon Quest Joker, VIII and IX got support and sold well as a result.
>>739588378nobody buys DQ because they put no effort into exporting the series. Dragon Warrior 3 was launched four entire years after the original JP launch, and two years after the US release of DW2. DW4 launched over a year after the SNES had been, and then we didn't see another DQ game until 8. they completely forfeited the fifth gen to Squaresoft, who slipped in and set the standard for JRPGs in the west.
>>739589047It’s basically a more customizable III, you’d have to be a dumb storyfag not to like it.
>>739589047It's tied with DQVIII for western fans most liked game. Precisely because it was their introduction to the series. But 11 is quickly surpassing both since far more people have been playing it.
>>739589168fourth and fifth gen, I meant. which, as you should know, was the Golden Era of JRPGs. by the time we got DQ8 the JRPG fad was dying out in the west with only Final Fantasy still retaining popularity.
>>739588954>It was actually longer since they had been ignoring DQ since the SNES.They released four games in a row that all didn't do well. During the fifth gen, after skipping the fourth, they released seven games (admittedly five were on GBC) and none of those did well either. I can see why they'd be pretty fucking averse to releasing anymore. >But I'm specifically pointing out how they ignored the series since the PS2/Wii/PS3/Wii U eras. That's at least 2 1/2 generations.Are you fucking high? First off, barely any fucking DQ games released on PS2, PS3, and Wii U. There was DQ8 and DQ5 and DQ Builders and DQ Heroes across all three of those really, those are the four big releases AND ALL OF THEM HAD ENGLISH RELEASED except DQ5, and this is ignoring that on DS during the same generation they released>Dragon Quest 4>Dragon Quest 5>Dragon Quest 6>Dragon Quest 9>DQM Joker>DQM Joker 2>Rocket SlimeNow when you look at 3DS, ask yourself which of these sold well, because I'll tell you now- only one of them did. >Games were selling 400k-1.5 million outside Japan.Take your head out of your ass because that is way off. Don't act like that is the average. If you want the actual sales of each game at the time>DW7 - 177K>Torneko PSX - 14K>DWM - 60K>Rocket Slime - 110K>DQ Swords - 110K>DQ4 DS - 260K>DQ5 DS - 130K>DQ6 DS - 50K>DQ8 PS2 - 900K>DQ9 - 1.02 million>DQH Steam - 110K>DQH2 Steam - 100K>DQ7 3D - 300K>DQ8 3D - 600KOnly three games here even fucking enter your average. >Dragon Quest Monsters Joker on DS was also quite successful. Maybe in your bubble, where I was I didn't hear shit about it, never saw anyone talk about it, and that was it.There hasn't been a "DQ Drought" in about 11 years at this point, and there wasn't one in the 2000s up to 2012 really, there just wasn't.
>>739589070Which is why nobody bought DQM3 when it released a few years back? >>739589116FFXIV did well after it literally fucking died and got rebooted. You don't want to compare anything to FFXIV because no other company would've done that, it only happened because of the current state of FF at the time and the public embarrassment of the whole situation. >>739589168This has always been a cope.For a start, people weren't throwing out their fucking NES right when the SNES launched that just didn't happen. The idea of needing to switch to a newer upgraded console was skeptical for a lot of parents.Secondly, DW1 was among the most shilled games on the console simply because people got it for free. And people didn't like it, and people didn't want the sequels. This wasn't because they needed to start with 3, it was just because people didn't like the world on offer with DQ, and I think that has always been the reason why it wasn't successful. If DQ was going to ever be successful outside Japan, it'd be successful today, when it's releasing remakes of older titles with more everything in a popular style for JRPGs, but nobody's buying DQ1&2 or 3. Nobody bought DQ7, and that's because DQ isn't that appealing to most people. That's the whole issue. When DQ8 was successful, it was just luck. Time and place. It had an FF demo and Dragon Ball was at its peak of western popularity. When DQ9 was successful, that was because Nintendo backed it with one of the biggest marketing campaigns for any game they've ever backed. That's all that's in play with these titles. Without that they don't do well not because they "have the potential but SE is mean!", it's because people don't give a shit. People don't want DQ.
>>739589735>Which is why nobody bought DQM3 when it released a few years back? Partially, yes. That, and The Dark Prince>ran like shit>completely fumbled the story premise of being a prequel about Psaro>had DAY ONE DLC for damn near mandatory features
>>739589439>They released four games in a row that all didn't do well. The first one did. Sold just as much as FF. Then the next three games got no marketing. Gee, I wonder why they didn't do well but FF went on to be a huge IP? Maybe because Square put their biggest markeing campaigns behind FF2, 3 and 7 while Enix gave zero marketing to Dragon Quest, to the point few people even knew they came out? Nah...that can't be it.>During the fifth gen, after skipping the fourthNotice how you just rush right past that.>they released seven games (admittedly five were on GBC) and none of those did well either. I can see why they'd be pretty fucking averse to releasing anymore. The GB games did well. DQMonsters and the I-III remakes did decently well. You probably are one of those people who thinks a game needs to sell 6 million to be "good" though.Their releases on PS1 are the ones that didn't do well. And that came down to many factors on their end. Releasing it really late, right up against the PS2 launch. Poor localization. No marketing. Etc. Even many DQ fans don't know there was a Torneko game released in English on the PS1. Because that's how little the company supported it. This is a common theme for DQ all the way up until the PS3/Switch. Games would come out with almost no marketing or even announcement. Aside from DQforums.>DW7 - 177K>Torneko PSX - 14K>DWM - 60K>Rocket Slime - 110K>DQ Swords - 110K>DQ4 DS - 260K>DQ5 DS - 130K>DQ6 DS - 50K>DQ8 PS2 - 900K>DQ9 - 1.02 million>DQH Steam - 110K>DQH2 Steam - 100K>DQ7 3D - 300K>DQ8 3D - 600KAnd where are you getting these sales firgures from? See, if I posted where I got mine from, you'd claim "that source doesn't count!" And I can do the same to yours. vgchartz and stuff are shit. No one really knows the real sales figures because SquareEnix never releases them. So everything is just an estimate.
>>739589439>>Dragon Quest Monsters Joker on DS was also quite successful. >Maybe in your bubble, where I was I didn't hear shit about it, never saw anyone talk about it, and that was it.PIPE DOWN WILL YA! I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK ON THIS ONE!
I'm still waiting on my DQ9 remakeGame is amazing, but boy does it look like complete ass today
>>739589919>The first one did. Sold just as much as FF.It didn't. Those sales include Nintendo Power subscriptions, which was literally Nintendo offloading severe overstock of a game that bombed. If it did well, Nintendo would've kept advertising the games.>Notice how you just rush right past that.Because there's nothing to say. DQ1-4 bombed so nothing released, and now, releasing DQ5 and 6 wouldn't have fixed anything. DQ5 looked like shit for an SNES game let's be real, but people didn't want to play as a child who gets led along by his dad for the first hour of the game. FF4 created intrigue with its extended opening about an older warrior, but it also got right to the point too. >The GB games did well. DQMonsters and the I-III remakes did decently well.You actually can't prove most of that since sales data doesn't exist for most of those outside Japan.>See, if I posted where I got mine fromWell, where do you get yours from? I certainly hope your numbers aren't being inflated by shit like mobile ports being included in the numbers.
>>739589735>people weren't throwing outno but they also weren't buying new games for them either. same reason PS1 game sales fell off a cliff after 2000. kid goes to Toys R Us to get his first game console, he's gonna get the newest one, not the old cheap one with wore graphics. not unless his parents are poor. >DW1 wasn't very good. the series didn't come into its own until 3, which sold like ass in the US, because it launched so damn late it ended up looking dated and cheap compared to other titles out at the time. DQ7 wasn't sold outside of Japan. neither was 5 or 6. that was the problem, because that run of three games are generally held to be the pinnacle of the series. post-DQ8 games are all nostalgiabait for Japanese millennials, they're meant to appeal to a demographic that doesn't exist outside of Japan. they're meant for the kids who grew up playing 5-7; you know, the group who I just established doesn't exist here. so to people who have no nostalgia for the series, they just feel like dated janky RPGs with cartoons graphics. this is my POINT. they didn't establish a foothold in the generation they desperately needed to, and then gave up trying to progress the series in an attempt to appeal to later generations because the Japanese fans throw a fit every time they try.
>>739589735>FFXIV did well after it literally fucking died and got rebooted. You don't want to compare anything to FFXIV because no other company would've done that, it only happened because of the current state of FF at the time and the public embarrassment of the whole situation. And Dragon Quest X was good right out of the gate. You're actually making an argument that they should have released Dragon Quest X to compliment FFXIV.>People don't want DQ.Yet whenever we get consistent releases of the games, sales grow and hype builds. You can say "no one likes DQ" all you want. But it actually sells. And your only counter to this is "nah, it doesn't sell because no one likes it." And we just go in a loop.Even if you only want to count the games that got marketing support and using your severe lowball estimate, they sold well. You have DQ games that outsold Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler and Mana games. Yet you still act like they don't sell enough to get support and no one likes them. If that's the case, why are you even responding to this thread? How do DQ games consistently get threads and discussion at all?
>>739590117>If it did well, Nintendo would've kept advertising the games.Just like if Dragon Quest 8, 9, Joker and Builders did well, SquareEnix would logically keep supporting the future games with marketing, right? Oh wait...sometimes companies are fucking stupid.>a bunch of subjective opinions about what I dislike about DQ games and therefore they wouldn't have been successfulAnd you're out of arguments. FF4 also looked like crap compared to some other games but sold decently well. Why? Marketing campaign and support. Later on when Dragon Quest 8, 9 and Builders got marketing, they sold well. Noticing a theme?
I think there's a lot of good things in Pokopia that can be applied to Builders 3. The question is how big is Builder 3's scope going to be? But I think Builders 3 should get it's own thread.Rocket Slime coming back with mouse mode on Switch 2 could be fun. Though it might be a mobile game instead.
>>739590265PSX game sales fell because they stopped making new ones. Meanwhile, the NES sold more units than the SNES.>wasn't very good. the series didn't come into its own until 3, which sold like ass in the US, because it launched so damn late it ended up looking dated and cheap compared to other titles out at the time.DW1 for the NES was better than most things released around it, especially the version made for the western release. I'd say the only "RPG" better than it on release was probably Zelda 2, and that's barely an RPG really. Ultima 4 wouldn't even be out on NES for a while by the time DW1 released, and I think DW3 and its systems would've alienated console players in the west FAR MORE than DW1. Even DW2 I think would've done the same, simply because most NES players were still coming from Atari and Arcade titles. >DQ7 wasn't sold outside of Japan.It was. It released on PSX as Dragon Warrior 7. >>739590289And it doesn't matter how good it is if nobody cares about DQ. >Yet whenever we get consistent releases of the games, sales grow and hype builds. No it doesn't, we know this because we're living it right now. Nobody fucking cared about the last six or seven DQ games, not even in Japan for the last two remakes, those did fucking horribly for numbered DQ in Japan. DQ has been getting released consistently since 7 and 8 released on 3DS outside Japan. Its been over a decade. >How do DQ games consistently get threads and discussion at all?They don't, they usually die around 100 posts unless the topic is this shit or localization drama.>>739590646No dude, Nintendo literally gave the game away. That's what happened, this is documented history. The game bombed and Nintendo wanted nothing to do with it after losing a lot of money on it.Also, I don't dislike DQ, I just recognize other people dislike it. If it was going to be successful, it'd be successful NOW. When games are releasing EVERY YEAR.
>>739590893>NES sold more unitsuntil Mario World. which launched before DW4. by 1992 the NES was basically dead. >it was less baddoesn't mean good. NES RPGs were universally shit until 87-88 in Japan, and around 90 in the US when those 87-88 titles started making it stateside. I forgot 7 got exported, because they put so little effort into advertising it. over a year after the PS2 launched.
>>739590893>If it was going to be successful, it'd be successful NOW. It is. Selling over a million for mainline entries and 300k-500k for spin offs is successful. The only way you'd think it isn't is if you expect it to sell FF numbers. And 1) That's completely infeasable when it gets 1/10000th the marketing support and 2) DQ spin offs/remakes still sell better than some FF spin offs/remakes.
>>739591161>until Mario World.No, until never. The NES had 11 million more consoles sold than the SNES. By 1992, the NES was still around and people still used it. It certainly didn't get talked about as much, but consoles don't disappear when the next one comes out. It's like when people say zoomers only played PS3 games, most people still primarily used sixth gen consoles and SD TVs until like 2009-2011.>doesn't mean good.No it was just good. DW1 was better than Zelda 1 really, way more polished, way more direct with what it wanted from the player, and way more forgiving on the player. The simple issue is that the Hyrule Fantasy was more appealing than the Loto Fantasy. >I forgot 7 got exported, because they put so little effort into advertising it. over a year after the PS2 launched.Blame that on Horii releasing the game in 2000.>>739591301It sold over a million one time nine years ago. It doesn't sell 300K-500K for spinoffs. Maybe in Japan, but not outside Japan, and they're definitely not outselling any FF products outside Japan.
>>739589919>>DW7 - 177K>>Torneko PSX - 14K>>DWM - 60K>>Rocket Slime - 110K>>DQ Swords - 110K>>DQ4 DS - 260K>>DQ5 DS - 130K>>DQ6 DS - 50K>>DQ8 PS2 - 900K>>DQ9 - 1.02 million>>DQH Steam - 110K>>DQH2 Steam - 100K>>DQ7 3D - 300K>>DQ8 3D - 600KI call bullshit on these so called sales numbers. Because aside from DQIX and VIII on 3DS, there hasn't been a release of any official numbers. And it took fucking Nintendo releasing them for us to get those. SquareEnix never will.And I especially call bullshit on Steam sales data since they particularity won't release any. Dragon Quest XI could have sold 2-3 million on Steam and we'd never know.
>>739590076Dragon Quest X is basically a remake of IX in everything but the main story. Gameplay, combat, playing coop with people was drastically improved, improved classes, etc. Even the music is similar since they reused a lot of the songs from 9 (and even had the train and Stella appear). But you know, never ever.
>>739557917post the original.
>>739591476SE actually does publish them, in financial reports. Example,https://web.archive.org/web/20150610200439/https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/news/20090525_01en.pdf#page=8If you go to the sales numbers page, you'll see DQV DS with 130K for its overall global sales. If you do just North America, it only sold 70K there.DQIV is also here, and yes, this was from DQIV's release period in the west, where it confirms the 260K number.
>>739588378>Do you really fucking think people were gonna go crazy over>>Dragon Quest Monsters>>Dragon Quest Monsters 2>>Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3considering they're the best games in the genre I'd say sotoo bad they were never given a chance outside of japan
>>739576312my nigga
>>739591786>Shipment to dateNot actual sales. And also, the DS DQ games are notorious for underprinting. That's why they sell for over $100 on ebay. The supply was way below the demand for those titles.Do you have sales data for later titles? Because these days when you try to look up shareholder info, they just lump all the sales data into "single player games", "mobile games" and "MMOs" and the like. As if they're trying to hide the data from shareholders. These days instead of saying "Final Fantasy VII Remake sold [x] copies" they will go "Final Fantasy VII remake, along with all the other games in the single player category, sold 10 million units!" Disney and many other companies do this shit too. Only reason to do this is to hide flops from their tools...I mean shareholders.
are the hd-2d remakes worth playing? they look alright but haven't tried them yet
>>739592342No.
>>739591437>cumulative salesirrelevant. the number of people who bought an NES in 1986 has no bearing on what system had a bigger install base in 1993. >it was better than Zelda 1the difference is, Zelda 1 launched in 1987 in the US. DW1 in 1989. DW7 launched in 2001 in the US. it had to compete with the likes of FF9.
>>739592342So long as you don't mind modern DQisms, they're fine versions games on their own merits, but 1&2 in particular revamp enough that they're bordering on new games with the same structure, so they don't totally replace the originals either.
>>7395923423 is fine. 1 is underwhelming. 2 is fantastic.
>>739592434>(((modern DQisms)))
>>739592342I-II are worth it much moreso than III since they add so much more to each game, to the point that they're almost new games. III was also added to, but not nearly to the same level.However, all three games were also made a fair bit more hand-holdy in telling you where you should go.And they can actually be challenging if you play Draconian Quest.
>>739592518There are people that will die on the hills and people who don't give a shit about it, so it's pretty much the distinguishing factor at that point.
>>739592434>>739592450>>739592553here come the shills
>>739592614here comes the schizo
>>739592576>(((people who don't give a shit about it)))>>739592614Yep. TSD.
>>739557043>the younger onesThey have a negative birth rate. Hope that helps.
>>739592808Everyone on Earth does except shit-eating jeets. Hope that helps.
>>739592342Dragon Quest I and II very much so. Dragon Quest 1 is much harder and added a ton of story/NPC events to make it a whole new game. Dragon Quest II did the same, but even bigger. Dragon Quest II remake did literally everything I thought the Super Famicom remake should do, plus a little more. I could do without the underwater ship and the mermaids. But it's amazing they basically remade it to be on par with Dragon Quest III and IV. And the characters have massive personality improvements.The remake of III sadly, I don't think it's as good as the Super Famicom version. There's a lot of reasons for it. But the biggest just comes down to flow. The larger areas, tons of added filler hidden items and not fixing the bird/ship makes the game just slow to a crawl. The Super Famicom version is much better in flow and removes tons of filler junk. They seem to have figured this out and that's why I and II remake are much better.
>>739585330>almost decade between mainline releases was okaySame shit is happening (or has already happened) with Kingdom Hearts.
>>739592913They did make both the ship and bird faster later down the line.
Question, how should the Dragon Quest XII protagonist look compared to the previous ones? Also should there be a Female Variant- I mean Type B Variant?
>>739592668schizos, it would seem.>>739593021They never should've stopped making female variants, love sub-plots be damned.
>>739593058>female variantsBody Type B*
>>739593058>>739593021just make the Hero a female for once.
>>739589043Here’s your Dragon Quest Builders 3 bro kek
>>739593021only male
>>739593090Yeah, yeah, whatever. We all know what it actually means.
>>739593134More like Poslopia amirite??
>>739593194>(((We)))
>>739588954Nobody is gonna read all of this shit bro come on, get real. I’ll just post this since we’re talking sales.
>>739557794No, it'll be 2 gacha videos, 3 pachinko videos, 1 Netflix movie announcement, 1 HD2D demake announcement and 1 five seconds DQXII teaser they're contractually obligated to release for shareholders
>>739593257What, you saying you don't? What kind of moron are you?
>>739593360I'm calling you a kike, you dense fuck.
>>739593257this retard can't tell men AMD women apart lmfao
>>739593275I read it.
>>739564734I wonder if Debora will survive the modern censors. Her outfit is a bit risque.
>>739593000Yeah. But the bigger problem still remains. There's way too many plateaus/platforms to explore with the bird and 90% of the stuff you find is junk. My favorite thing in RPGs is collecting items. But when you spend forever trying to find every single sparkley spot, only to get some caogulants and herbs and one decent sword you already have 3 copies of...it's kind of annoying.And on the ship, even with it sped up, it's hours of sailing around fighting just to get to the North American city. And then you have to sail across the whole world a few more times for other areas. This is the kind of thing they should have altered for a remake. And Dragon Quest II did.
>>739593385>not falling for jewish tricks means you're a kikeI see. You're the colossal fucking schizo retard type of moron.
>>739592930>Nobody is gonna read all of this shit bro come on>posts an image with a wall of textLiberals can't meme.
>>739593712Body Type B is a jewish trick. I actually don't understand what you're trying to say. Is this sheer retardation, or limitless pilpul (sheer retardation)?
>>739593134If only it had combat. And a stronger main quest. And upgrades weren't a timed buff.
>>739593512Only if they 1) said she was over 18 and 2) consented to some terrible localizer to give her a shitty voice actor (black of course).
>>739593765Buddy, you started this whole thing by replying to my post that said what body type B really was. Which was in reply to a post trying to correct me for trying to brush body types aside by strictly saying female.So let me ask you: Is this sheer retardation, or limitless pilpul (sheer retardation)?
>>739594084You're the one telling people to buy the propaganda, jew.
>>739558134I wish this was true. SE deserves to fail for all the censorship. At least they do appear to be dying a slow death.
>>739594084Dude, stop taking the bait.
>>739594454Pathetic samefag, and pretending it's bait won't erase you getting owned.
I'm not expecting Builders 3 anytime soon after Pokopia. Especially if Pokopia is going to get DLC soon.
>>739595185Poslopia and its consequences have been a disaster for Builder games.
>>739592849Younger people don't exist at all in Japan. I would say that they're going extinct in 3 generations but it's probably closer to one. They're second in self-genocide only to south korea.
>>739595252You didn't actually respond to my words.
>>739595252Many nations have a lower birth rate than Japan. And try walking around Tokyo and saying there's no young people. You'll bump into 5 million of them at each crosswalk.
>>739595325>5 million young people in JapanHA! Is 40 young to you?
>>73959327599% of DQ sales are from Japan
>>739595645Try about 70-75%.>haha, like that makes a difference!It does. When the game sells 7 million worldwide and only 5 million is in Japan.
>>739556505I can't wait for them to fuck up yangus, removing va-va-voom, removing casino, removing jessicas jiggle physicsnu-dq is a joke.
>>739597116>removing jessicas jiggle physics3DS already did this.
>>739597116Hopefully the downfall of hedge funds will be complete before then. We had to sacrifice the last 10 years of games to this woke crap. But a lot of Japanese companies are letting go of it. And the Japanese parliament is even passing laws against it.The problem is, Sony is the spearhead of all this crap in Japan. And they're also one of SquareEnix's largest shareholders. Along with lovely Blackrock but they're in literally everything.
>>739597337>It's SONY!It's kikes.
>>739597380It's both. Sony takes the hedge fund money and then forces everyone else in their orbit to do the same. This is how they got SquareEnix to form the "ethics committee." Headed by a Sony HR manager.
tomorrow brothers...
>>739597973>Dragon Quest VIII remake>New Dragon Quest Gacha>Horii will then end the stream sheepishly saying they're currently working on other stuff and then hurry off.
>>739598110>Shows off DQX content>A MASSIVE tag on the side>No plans for worldwide release
>>739598110>Dragon Quest VIII remakeI honestly don't want one. Of all the games out there that doesn't need one, that's it. All it needs is a port to modern consoles and 1080p support. But sadly I know that's not how they work.The irony that Final Fantasy games need tons of fixes but get a million ports and remasters. And the DQ games usually need less fixing but get full remakes. The only ones that need big remakes are II and VI. And thankfully II got it recently.
>>739598323I think IX would be the only remake I'd be interested in, if they give it online play for the multiplayer.Hearing that IV, V, and VI are currently in the pipeline for ANOTHER remake is tiring.
>>739598597>>739598323>4-5-6 will most likely get 2dhd'd>8 will get some weird treatment because they keep teasing it via dlc costumes>9 never ever>10 never ever, even offline never everim tired bossi just want the mobile ports on steam
if we get HD2D remakes of 4-6, I don't wanna see any of that game key card shit.
>>739598728It'll be game key cards. But at least there will be Switch 1 versions.
>>739598769oh sure there'll be switch 1 versions, but I own a Switch 2, and I would like to own more Switch 2 games for my Switch 2.
>>739588514Fair enough too. Japan is not enlightened for allowing this in their children's cartoons. Anyone mature enough for this should not be so stunted as to read Jump cartoons.
>>739556505
>10 years, possibly even more, between both mainline games>despite JUST complaining about how long releases between mainline games was really fucking bad for Final Fantasy>will miss the Switch 1 installbase at its peak active installbase>will probably miss the Switch 1 installbase altogether >if there is a Switch 1 version for some reason, it will severely nerf every other version because Square Enix are lazy retards and don't want to make separate versions despite doing so for DQ11 3DS/PS4What are these guys DOING?
>>739599104They'll do something retarded like make a pocket version again and put that on switch and mobile
>>739599104ermmm....covid happened okay... people LITERALLY died...Then our dear composer died... give them a break man... geez...
Dragon quest XI was released in 2017, that's almost 10 years ago.A jrpg should not take 10+ years to develop no matter what, we used to have yearly releases of them
>>739599303they do when all of your studios are run by incompetent designers promoted to management
>LET ME CASHT A THPELL
>>739599303Honestly I'm remembering how for several games they outsourced the series for being the development workhorses because the Enix side of stuff couldn't attribute enough resources even after the Square-Enix merger to keep making the games. Now I'm wondering what the hell's been going on because it's clear Horii's team(s) were either stuck revising plans repeatedly, or may have had their time taken up by other bullshit.
>>739599415I think Toriyama and Sugiyama dying fucked them and so they decided to switch over to the HD-2D games and the random DQVII remake.
Surprised there isn't a frame up for any stream yet. Maybe they'll just drop a video.
>>739592342they're all pretty good, I liked the random encounter system a lot after how handholdly overworld monsters were for so long.
>>739599532Sugiyama dying, I can see that fucking something up since it was 2021, literally five months after XII got announced. But considering how much XI already reused from prior games it wouldn't shock me if it wasn't a staggering problem, just a public one, but we don't have any firm idea frankly. Sometimes music can take a long while to iterate and refine to the final version, sometimes someone shits out a soundtrack in a week. Toriyama passed away a couple years ago, but he didn't exactly develop everything art-wise for these games, largely just character designs and concepts that fit what the teams wanted from what I can figure. If XII got completely and utterly sidelined by a composer and an artist in favor of remakes, we have bigger problems in the entire mess than just simple mismanagement.
>>739599104The problem is actually Dragon Quest 11. Horii spent far too much time constantly remaking it and releasing new versions. Previously he would always just make one version on whatever was the most popular console. He vowed to keep to that and did...until Dragon Quest 11. He promised before it came out to have it on PS4, 3DS AND Switch. He was so early on this, it was the first Switch game ever announced. Before Nintendo had even revealed the consoles name. Nintendo publicly reprimanded them for announcing the Switch name before they did.Anyway, the point of all this is, the Switch version was not a simple port but they had to completely recreate the game from scratch in a new engine. That took 2 years. Then they decided to add a bunch of new content and refine some other stuff, which took another year. Then in between all that they made a PC version. And then ported the Switch version to every other platform again. And the game had already had like 4 years of development time. So Dragon Quest 11 took up like 8 years of development time. Then Horii admitted after all that his next story hadn't even started yet. He wasn't even in pre production. And he had a dozen spin offs and remakes to oversee. But really it was Dragon Quest 11's hellish development cycle that stalled so much.
Why does DQ have the most deranged haters? There's a ton of series that exist but for some reason DQ inspires the most ardent lunatics to just hate the series despite never playing it.
Time for what?
>>739557941>asking sauce of thisgrim
>>739600606They do it to other popular series as well. They're in Zelda and other threads. Their entire life is just to get attention by riling people up. And if someone responds, they win.What's sad is they're still running on 20 year old talking points that haven't applied to DQ in forever. It's like the kids who try to insult anime fans by repeating propaganda from the 1940s.
>>73959984711 should have been 3ds only
>>739593058>They never should've stopped making female variants, love sub-plots be damned.Fire Emblem as well, Dating Sim Mechanics be damned.
I want another dragon quest monsters game
>>739600791You should've been a blowjob
>>739600791i still fucking want the 3ds port man
>>739567443>>739568457>>739593829
>>739600606Besides this being /v/ so anything popular or liked should be destroyed, as per board standards nowadays, DQ attracted the censorship/localization obsessed folks that simply will not let the series breathe again if they can help it. Same shit happens to any random series with such complications, but DQ is popular enough to auto-magnetize these folks. The games are simple enough to not really catch on in the ways you'd think these haters can justify otherwise.
>>739558134>All the woke localizationYou can keep pretending people care about this outside of Mangalawyer's fanbase meaning YOU.
whatever happened to that ugly dq7 remake?
>>739597337>We had to sacrifice the last 10 years of games to this woke crapIt will be 2030 and this narrative will still be there with a different name because people's jobs like Grummz depend on it, also so that you don't ask why you are still in it.
More soulless UE5 demakes?
>>739601051it came and went, major ass
>>739601051It came out, simple as that. Like for newcomers it's a good version, but for veterans besides the conveniences of double vocation moonlighting, it's so comically stripped down and neutered there's zero appeal besides seeing a new lens on it. It's kind of really a case where it's like, "okay" but it's still VII despite how much shit got removed, so it doesn't even fix the fundamental issues of the game.
>>739601027Most people don't know or care about "wokeness." But a large group of people dislike the localizations. For decades no one knew how much the localizations were changing stuff, in any games. But recently a lot of games have been getting flak for massively altering stuff from the original Japanese. And yes, these are self described woke people. The localization directors outright say they're doing it to "own the chuds." But again, most people don't know that. They just see a game like Final Fantasy VII remake or Dragon Quest VIII getting weird censorship and dialogue changes they don't like. And they're not happy. If this is done for too long, sales go down (already seen massive drop in FF sales).
>>739601051It came out. The massive DQ fans who have to buy every game because it has the name DQ on it bought it. And hyped it to high heaven. But most people passed on it. Either because they already played the 3DS remake or didn't like the new CGI looking designs. Or weren't big fans of Dragon Quest VII to begin with. I'm in the final camp. Playing the game twice on PS1 and 3DS was already enough for me.
>>739599303While I'm sure the expense of cartridges and games generally being pretty short to beat would be annoying, it sure would be cool to have grown up in the NES/SNES era and gotten a new sequel every year or twoThis whole wait a whole decade shit for them to release a single game is pretty gay. I've seen Japan birth rates, they can't afford these development times.
>>739601051it came and went. VII is already one of the least popular entries in the series, anyway.
DQ 10 global server soon
>>739601716i wish, i want something casual to playand DQX won't have the tranny infestation and the omega niceness that XIV has
>>739601762>and DQX won't have the tranny infestation and the omega niceness that XIV hasSqaureEnix: "Is that a challenge?"
>>739558134>Player numbers>for a single player game HOLY FUCK this needs to stop.
>>739601374There was a bigger movement with "Bringbacknationaldex" than any of of those localization complains and it did nothing to Sword and Shield.
>>739593194his response that last panel should've been>....and?
>>739602437A couple localization complaints in anime actually reached the original Japanese authors and they forced the localization company to completely rewrite and reprint their manga. And Horii seems to be waking up to it in Dragon Quest as well. Not saying anything will change. But he at least commented on not liking some of the accents and name changes. And the costume censorship/type B stuff, which is affecting even the Japanese version now.
>>739602720Best selling Digimon game.
>>739602948
>>739600840you can blow me any day anon
We're passed the point where we won't ever get non-yeye ass english for these games, aren't we?
>>739602979Despite that. Not because of it.
>>739603243Based, amerilards don't speak a human language, they shouldn't be allowed to rape media with their mongrel babble.
>>739603327>he posted, seethingly in american
>>739603292The claim is not that it boost sales, the claim is that is hurts sales. That's why if this game had flopped you would claim that it failed because of it and no one could argue otherwise because the mechanism of success/failure only works in hindsight.
>>739570363Seven is my favorite, it's a tasteful mix of classic and modern. The game is also awesome.
What time is things happening?
>>739557043Only boomers care about Dragon Quest, but Square Enix will apparently attempt to change that by modernizing the combat.
>>739592930Well at least KH has iconic Disney... oh
>>739558134These are excellent numbers for low budget games, you dolt. Not to mention that they are multiplatform games.
>>739604701>they didn't actually modernize it>they just made it DQX so your positionals matter and it's "technically" real-time
>>739593021It depends on what the game is, Horii gives always gives the option when it fits and doesn't when it doesn't, that's all there is to that
>>739603206>placing any DQ below Ashut up
>>739603327this post would carry more weight if your entire existence didn't hinge on the milk gained from suckling at the teat of Uncle Sam
>>739556505DQ WARRIORS 3 BAYBEE
Why would anyone buy censored and body type woke garbage? That's why DQ3 is woke FLOP
>>739601051It was a shitty Game Key Card
Cucking Gemma.
>>739556505>8 UNLISTED VIDEOS!>turns out to be a 10 minutes long streamlol
>>739609017>02./00. [NS2] Dragon Quest VII Reimagined <RPG> (Square Enix) {2026.02.05} (¥7.980) - 160.101 / NEW>03./00. [PS5] Dragon Quest VII Reimagined <RPG> (Square Enix) {2026.02.05} (¥7.980) - 118.798 / NEWlol
>>739610008Is there a link?
>>739609927Nice. I married Jade.
>>739610061Here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYz_CVdowAThere will also be a 2 hour long pre-stream with all the fluff and SUGOIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CiTOH42r7s
>>739610310Ty, anon.You are forgetting the "eeeeeeeehhhh!"
Wasn't there a Nintendo or SE stream today?
>>739556505old news. it's just nothing.
>OH boy, a dragon quest thread on /v/>300+ replies>Organic discussion smudged in between the usual suspects pitching about wokeness/localization You can tell they don't even play the games but my biggest question is why do they always spam ecchi pictures? Do they need to signal that they're porn addicts too? Anyway keeping my expectations light. They basically already said DQXI will be there so I just hope the character designs continue to be good. I don't know how much Toriyama managed to draw so this will probably be the first DQ mainline with MCs that aren't Toriyama's
>>739584127E33 was a success because it's not Japanese. The failure of 1&2 HD and 7 reimagined shows that players do not want to play Japanese RPGs.
>>739589735To be absolutely fair DQ1 was released in '89 in the west.Like it was just doomed from the get go because.
How the hell did DQ11 sell an extra 2 million copies last year? I know there was hype from DQ I&II&III, and probably plenty of sales, but that's absurd.
>>739557917I’m not that big but hard af as well
Just release DQX Online over here officially ffs. If PSO2 can do it well after the fucking fact w/o relying on shitty fan translation mods, so can you.
>>739612578It commonly goes on sale for 20. And it is the only AAA classic JRPG.
I am ready.
>>739601051Came out and bombed.I'm surprised more people aren't talking about the fact that both DQ7 and the 1+2 remakes only barely hit 500K sales and neither have hit a million sales since dropping out of the famitsu charts.
>>739556505Im hoping for more Monsters titles.Even if its just the first four being remade.
They released those remakes way too close together.October 30, 2025 for the 1+2 remake and February 5, 2026 for the DQ7 remake. Basically four months between them.
>>739589047It was my 9th Dragon Quest and I quite liked it, even if I emulated it with no online extras and stuff. There was something kinda cool about it just being III (which I loved) again. It was just pure DQ adventure that sadly has little story holding it together but I felt that was fine. Plus, Stella is a great character and really helps the game not be boring. I also found it humorous how much I fucked up my party in the game that I unintentionally became a side character and another character became the MC since I was an Armamentalist who kept on going last and she was a warrior who could wield Erdrick's sword and would always go first doing tons of damage. So the game is always a funny memory to me. Oh, and seeing your armour on the characters was cool. Pic related was my final party lineup.
>PLEASE NO HD2D DQ4/5/6PLEASE NO HD2D DQ4/5/6>PLEASE NO HD2D DQ4/5/6PLEASE NO HD2D DQ4/5/6I would accept a remake like VII than those trash version of HD2D where you couldn't see half of the map
>>739613312You'll get Dark Prince Professional, exclusive to Switch 2
>>739611227>shows that players do not want to play Japanese RPGs.no, they just don't want to play games massacred by localizers
>>739614540Sure. Normalfags are totally all weebs that know about the localization changes and want pure Japaneseslop.There definitely weren't dozens of articles and reviews praising E33 for saving the genre from the inscrutable Japanese by being not anime and having a cast of adults instead of sexualized teens.
>>739556505DQIX remake when
>>739614794low IQit's like with everything they don't know about these little things themselves but follow the lead of power users when choosing a product
>>739557043Am*ricans still care for Star Wars, no?
My prediction is they were working on a DQ12 that looked like FF13 and playing like FF7R but it was just not hitting and Toriyamas death made abandoning his art style at this time seem grossly disrespectful so they have gone back to the drawing board.To fill the gap i think we are getting a 8 or 9 remaster since outside 10 which is an mmo those feel like the hardest for kids to find and play nowadays.
>>739592913Nice summary, thanks
I hope 12 is more of a 7 than a 11. Both were technically as linear as each other but 7 feels more free and open while 11 felt like going on a very rail roaded dungeons and dragons campaign. Looked great but i dont want another game like that right after the last one.
>>739602053>doesn't understand successful single player games get high numbers and that can be extrapolated as success.and you call me the moron.
>>739584892>appeal to the numbershow does this work? You're appealing to "steam charts" but forgot to explain why bad numbers are irrelevant. Except when it's Baldur's Gate 3.Sounds like empty-posting woke cope.
>>739604764No they're not, last one had a bigger budget than 3 remaster and flopped.
>>739592849>Everyone on Earth does except shit-eating jeets. Hope that helps.Everyone says it only really sells in Japan because of nostalgia. Which isn't really a good sign.
>>739615165not really, even star wars has used up its goodwill.
>>739595420everything up to 39 is young
>>739617973dumb satania poster
>>7396112277 sucked even by DQ standards but ultimately DQ as a series just lacks ambition. Everything it does in a basic bitch manner from gameplay to story. It has charm but ultimately everything in them just ends up feeling really generic.
>>739570363God i miss adol wearing armor
>>739592913the main thing i disliked was them casualizing some of the exploration. In DQ1 there were items where you had to search in a specific spot to find it and you had to talk to people to find out where things were instead of there just being an obvious shiny thing to indicate that there's an item there. In DQ2 you didn't start with the world map and you actually had to locate it in the final dungeon of the first game. Overall I'd say they're better though.
>>739593275>starts the count since the 80's when there were no digital sales for those games to make modern releases look "in-demand" despite shit numbers on gaming's biggest platform, Steam.These PR blurbs don't work anymore.
>>739593275>DRAGON QUEST>Popular roleplaying game series worldWhat a load of bullshit, the series was constantly ignored by the SE america and the gamers in general, 90% of the 95 millions units come from Japon
>>739618608trouble is those things feel generic because dragon quest did them and everyone imitated them. they ARE the template people call generic. Its not the devs phoning it in, its their brand that became a safe design staple.
>>739620017>trouble is those things feel generic because dragon quest did them and everyone imitated themNo sorry. Dragon Quest didn't invent medieval fantasy. It didn't invent overworlds, and it didn't invent turn-based combat. The only thing it invented was fusing ultima-style exlporation with wizardry-style combat. plenty of other Franchises out there have made medieval fantasy RPG worlds that feel interesting with villains that aren't just "generic demon lord who isn't intimidating at all" Even the multiple series its aping got far more ambitious mechanically than DQ ever has.
>>739618608It's wasnt lacking ambition, you just failed to see the subtance of the ambition behind those games, Dragon Quest are games that pushed the rpg formulas even further and each was accompanied with its own innovation, the magic from those games came from the refinnement of the level designs and exploration and storytellingJust because you didnt have spectacular shit on screen or incredible twist or tracks on the game doesnt mean there wasnt great effort and ambition put into these games,
>>739621436>the magic from those games came from the refinnement of the level designswhat? earlier DQ games had okay dungeons i guess but there's nothing really stand-out about them and then as the series goes on the level design has just been more and more simplistic> and exploration and storytellingThe exploration is only good in 1-3 and 6. All of the others are quite linear and none of them have particularly good storytelling. FF is far more ambitious in its storytelling than DQ ever was and that's part of what made it so popular.
