>arrives>"I am going to make love to your woman, and make her mine.">doesn't elaborate>leavesWhat the fuck was his problem?Is it an Italian thing?
>>739560510Look, Star Wolf was already down two members after a galactic ass-kicking. They didn’t have the best pickings for new recruits.
>>739560586Amazingly he has a bigger bounty than Leon.Then again, it's probably from sleeping with the daughter (or wife) of some politician or general and the cash is all salt and seethe from one guy.
>>739560510quiet bird
Woo her, Panther.
>>739561537>a cat woman is talking
>>739560586Star Wolf isn't sending their best.
>>739560873I saw this and, as a Leon fan, was saddened. I guess Leon is so stealthy that many of his crimes aren't tied to him.
>>739560510>leavesWith her.
>>739560510I miss Panther and would love to see him return.Especially since panthers (really just leopards and jaguars) are pretty big cats. So I imagine he would be the muscle of the group now.
>>739562729That's how I see it. Like as far as most people know Leon's crime is basically just aiding and abetting. Though the idea of Panther's actual bounty being like $50 but the extra $1950 is from a seething politician or magnate or something.
>>739562942Friendly reminder Fox deserved this.
>>739562942Shamefully Longhoused. If a bitch pulls this kind of shit tell her to get fucked.>>739563084Yes, but not for the reason you probably mean it.
>>739562942This guy would never.
>>739560510He’s a womanizer and he sees a hot woman in front of him
>>739562942
>>739560510Sir...you know the restraining order includes my workplace right?
>>739562942>she tells him to beg for forgiveness in front of everyone>he doesMy boy... How did he fail the shit test this hard?
>>739563569After the employee discount does its work.
>>739563838what would you have done?
>>739564008"Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry I didn't leave your blue ass in the jungle. Enjoy my sloppy seconds, Panther."Yeah, you'd sound salty, but at least you don't cuck out and make her dryer than death valley.
>>739562942Fara was the superior girlfriend
Is there only one person from each race in this universe? Why do we never see others?
If Panther does return in a future title, think they will give him an actual backstory? He reminds me of Luis from Resident Evil 4.
>>739564354Because they're games set in space and there's like twelve characters.
>>739564354Considering that most of their names are just the animal they are, I don't think you're meant to think to hard about it.
>>739564183that makes me think you wouldn't have chased after her in the first place, which is what Fox was doing in the story to begin with (the entire plot of the game is a "we gotta get the gang back together!" trope). Sorry, I'm dissecting this way too much, because your goals are contrary to Fox's; he told Krystal to get off the team because he wanted to keep her safe like a housewife, so he's back apologizing that he benched her over his feelings. If he wants any sort of relationship with her going forward, he owes her an apology, but if the player never wanted her back on the force this scene wouldn't be happening.
>>739564354We do see repeats especially in the expanded material like comics and such.There are several dogs, and some cats who aren't particularly important. Fox and Peppy have family members and Slippy has like 10 kids in one of the command endings.Krystal however is unique and her entire race besides herself is likely dead due to backstory that only exists in English. Expect this to never be elaborated on further.
>>739564546You couldn't trust such a team member again, not to mention the simping out.Plus there's no way Krystal of all people is such a boon to a team of pilots. But if you do have to do it, you just tell them you need your pilot back, and say nothing else and let it be up to them. If they say no, fuck up, if they say yes it's now or never.
Stop bullying Fox right now! Bullying is mean and not funny!!
>>739565053idk, after Sauria and the Aparoid invasion you would think that'd build a fuckton of trust. Peppy could have flown in the Aparoid mission, but didn't, but he's barley able to fly now as an old vet, Krystal's the best hope you have for a 4th member before learning about Amanda and Lucy.
>>739562942this is probably the worst thing that happened to both of these characters
>>739566414>probably the worst thing that happened to both of these charactersHaving to witness this was probably pretty bad for Leon and Panther, but not the worst thing they've seen.
>people simp for the furries when Leon is right thereyou gotta be kidding me
>>739566681>heelsFujo, hands of my boy.
>>739561537
>>739566732no
>>739562942>Leon making the pussywhipped soundThat chameleon fucker lol
>>739560873thats my headcannon now.>>739566542fair point like leon is mocking foxbut panther probably is getting some 2nd hand embarrassment from this pathetic display
>>739560873>>739562729>>739563072>Wolf has a big bounty because he's just that infamous>Leon is so efficient he's hard to notice, so his deeds are obfuscated by his mates>Panther is less competent than the others but fucks around enough that his bounty raised just from being a nuisance
>>739562942>Son, I am disappoint.
>>739566681>>739567085Based. Leon is best boy
>>739567213I wonder if Krystal doesn't have a bounty because she technically didn't do anything illegal, or if it's more a matter of Peppy covering her ass hard for previous service.
>>739564008Shot Panther in the head and collected the bounty.
>>739567471Depending on how things go it's probably a mix of two. Sort of like Peppy wanting to keep an exit open for her, but depending on how it could have gone sooner or later that door could close.But this is all putting about 100x the thought into this than the writers did. Could be a bit of environmental story telling where you start seeing Krystal appearing on Wanted posters, then getting a bounty, etc. with the boards being background dressing in a city level.
>>739560873Is leon a chameleon or just a lizard?If he's a chameleon, I wouldn't be surprised if most of his crimes were never recognized.
>>739560510Since when did Vegeta became a panther?
>>739562942>I... I kinda feel bad about this now.>Can we just fight? This is getting really uncomfortable for me.
>>739567752>Is leon a chameleon or just a lizard?Worse. He's Polish.Canonically he's a chameleon, hence why he's called LEON, slowpoke.
>>739560873>Fent Smuggling>Homosexuality>Multiple counts of Cuckolding
>>739567827Bring fair to Vegeta, did he even know? Apparently Yamcha didn't make a move for 15 whole ass years.
>>739567981Falco is a fucking pheasant. Naming conventions in the Lylat system are a suggestion.
>>739567471Per the intro, they were wanted specifically for crimes committed during the Lylat Wars.
>>739562942I know I played Command at least once but even my young ass thought pushing Krystal away in the first place was hyper stupid; both in writing and character. Got the pic related ending and the one ending with Star Falco and said that was enough.
>>739567981>Wolf is Irish>Leon is Polish>Panther is ItalianKRYSTAL RUNTHEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU CATHOLICKRYSTAAAAAAALLL
>>739568059Falco is Italian American.
>>739567827>>739568056Bulma clearly went for vegeta as cope because she lost goku to chi chi. Yamcha clearly got friendzoned after jobbing in bed one too many times
>>739567981Slippy is not a lubricant oil
Will they make Krystal's game in the new series????
>>739568391>KrystalSorry, bro, but /v/ is KURSED territory.
>>739568391They better not. That's some S Tier Monkey Paw horror that can/will take place.
>>739560873>Charcacter names are literally the animals they are.Haha, Leon is just a regular name, what were they thi->ChameLEONHoly fuck how did I JUST now realize this.
>>739566961surprisingly fitting
>>739568391Fuck that when is my boy Tricky getting a game
The Kursed ending inadvertently sets up the best spin off Nintendo could possibly have made. They had a hugely popular character (yes she was) who was just primed and reset for an edgecore reboot in 2005. The Edgy Protagonist era had not even hit it's peak yet. They could have made a T-rated third person shooter adventure game full of 2000s edge, and milked it for at least two sequels.
So the upshoot of this thread is you want the mangy and ugly Katt to actually be pure and a good girl, and the sexy Krystal to be a sadistic bad girl?>>739568841>no Jak 2 or 3, or X, mood space adventure with KursedWe were robbed.
>>739560510He really didn’t get time to shine as a character, only showing up in two games.
>>739563249Damn he looks so good here!Where did you get this high quality png of him parking Rosalina’s Observatory?
>>739562942Reminder that the correct ending is Fox being a chad, never apologizing but giving her space to consider her poor actions (in this path, Falco mentions she is miserable on Star Wolf), and reuniting the OG Star Fox team for one last blaze of glory then retiring to fuck Krystal full of kids.
>>739568161same like i know its Nostalgiaon why i want to defend this game i know the game isnt the best.but i fully understand why a starfox fan would see the first ending (especially cause its forced) and them stop playing writing off the whole game is ass especially with the forced touch controls that could have been mapped to a button.and most of the other endings aren't much better outside of a fewand by a few i mean 3/9 endings
>>739569246Gay racecar drivers. Thats the best I can do.
>>739568841>krystal on a ship that's burning up>dragging someone who is resisting her>"P-P-please! I'll do anything.">Saying nothing as she drags him from his ship to hers.>"M-m-money? I've got money! Whatever you're getting paid, I'll double it.">she throws him into her ship's hold>"Please say something?">Krystal stops in the light of the door way>"Why would I say anything? I don't care what you're have to say.">door shuts>title drop: KURSED
Recently played Zero for the first time, now I kinda wanna replay other games.Always loved Assault, I'll see if it holds up.
>>739569246The lesson of the story is that if you want to lock a girl down, knock her up
>>739569427I think another key lesson is that you never apologize to a woman. Ever.
>>739560510>Ep 3 never everWhy is he so slow?
>>739569485Of course, I'm just saying she never would have done this stupid shit in the first place if she had a baby.
>>739569246>"Best revenge is a life well lived"
>>739567471All Krystal is guilty of is association with Star Wolf during a period they acted somewhat heroic. That's not enough to place a bounty on her. It is seemengly enough to screw her reputation though.
>>739569668I also like the Woman Moment ending where Fox, Falco, Peppy and Slippy win the war off screen while the girls all convince Krystal to go back with Fox and their final boss is basically of no consequence. Their ending is all the woman literally get back to the kitchen to fix the men dinner.
How cucked do you have to be to "take a woman back" when she's been fucking around during "the break"?Like, damn Fox, that bitch spent however long getting BARB'D by Panther every night and you're just cool with that?Happy ending is Fox being with a girl whose not a ho.
>>739568453Imagine the angry and spiteful sex with Fox.
>>739569994He looks at least 10 years older in that image.
https://youtu.be/hivuM366nUE?si=X72jJ44H90njvI_KWhat happened to wolf sounding like a bond villain.And leons voice is so smooth.
>>739569378>"Why would I say anything? I don't care what you're have to say."That's too long, we need a cool and edgy one liner.
What if they brought back Panther in a role apart from Star Wolf? Like maybe he's the leader of a pirate faction/thieves guild that Star Fox takes down, but he survives and Star Wolf picks him up as a new member.
>>739569849In a shocking twist it's actually the mangy and ugly girl that's actually the pure one.
I say ASSAULT, you say SORRYASSAULT
>>739560510lol
>>739570043I have exactly three Kursed images and this is the only one that i could reasonably show Fox while not being explicit.
>>739568973Krystal without prompting decided to sign up with killers for hire, and then crashed out over being benched.She craves the thrill of violence even if she never admits it out loud. I think that qualifies as bad girl.
>>739570135Assault is a mediocre EDF ripoff
>>739560510It's a gay guy thing, they can't have you so the next best thing is taking from you something that you desire.
>>739568973>So the upshoot of this thread is you want the mangy and ugly Katt to actually be pure and a good girl, and the sexy Krystal to be a sadistic bad girl?I mean that's literally canon
>>739570210Ah yeah, like Griffith
>>739568178Isn’t Fox Irish too?
>>739560510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoLVifDiK_A
>>739570103The whole "charming ladies man" is a bit more Sly Cooper than Star Wolf.
>>739570183>She craves the thrill of violence even if she never admits it out loud.Can't get out of the jungle that easily.
>>739570291Why did he do it?
>>739560510>falco>lylat's biggest Fox/Krystal shipper>everyone calls you gay
As much as Assault was flawed and I hated the on foot sections, at least someone attempted to do something different, new villain and all. With the Switch2 version, now this is what, the fourth time Nintendo remake the SNES Star Fox? 64 wasn't officially called a remake of the previous game even though it clearly was.
>>739570135Dude I loved the wing riding segments in Assault. Just riding on an ally's wing and gunning enemies down with the Plasma Cannon was cinema.I hope the sequel to the new game does super cool cinema stuff like that. Or just new gameplay/mission types.Like imagine a mission or two where you pilot the Great Fox itself. Slow-moving, but an absolute power fantasy of destruction.
>>739570356Reminder that Bentley made them help one of the guys who murdered Sly's parents just so that he'd be too distracted to cuck him with Penelope.
>>739570261Yeah it's basically nice guy syndrome but for gays.Griffith:>Hay Guts u wana be friends and rule the world together uwu maybe u ever thought about kissing another guy hahaGuts:>Take a hike, sallyGriffith:>I wIlL DeStRoY yOu, YOU FILTHY WHORE!!! HOW COULD YOU HAVE LED ME ON!!!!!!!! YOU OWE ME SEX!!!!!!!!!!
>>739570291>Panther: *mrowl~~ >:3 *>Krystal: *sploosh*
This fag isn’t canon.
>>739570961She rebuffs him pretty definitively in that game. The only reason she hooks up with him in Command is because she is trying to make Fox upset.
>first im gonna get your ship>then im gonna get your girl
>>739570189its literally a retexture of Rouge Squadron 3 but ok you shit for brains non GC faggot
Should Star Fox do on-foot combat again?
>>739570597The wing riding was the worst part of the game. It was so lazy feeling by the developer's part to try and diverse the gameplay but it felt like a worse version of the arwing levels
>>739571754Fuck no. Star fox should be an aerial dogfighting sim. only like some kino shit like fox and wolf putting their ships in autopilot as they fight each other on the wings of their ships or something.It's fucking STAR FOX. Not mass effect.
>>739571754If he does it shouldn't be like adventures or assault. Those games were awful and did on foot bad.
>>739571754They should do foot-on-my-face combat
>>739571939They have paws now, anon.
>>739570135Assault is easily the worst game in the series.
>>739570183So Krystal was never a good person to begin with and being with star fox showed her true colors?
>>739572001IncorrectZero is as it sold zero copies
>>739571754No, they should experiment with different vehicles playing the same level, since branching paths is a thing in the series, a planet where an airwing and the landmaster can both be playable as a choice with different level design or possibly interacting (coop oportunity) would be interesting
>>739568391I hope not she's a bad star fox character. She hasn't even done anything anything to deserve one.
>>739572078That's the basic idea that people who go for the "Krystal in Star Wolf" defence. I've seen people say that her time on Sauria makes her hate >society and finds more comfort in the more liberated lifestyle of Starwolf, what with their more rugged, frontier, ways.But this is all super headcanon stuff, and twisting canon to make it work. Sort of like keeping the notes but changing the instruments which play them.
>>739572132I bought Zero at launch for full price hoping it would make a difference for more Starfox games. Am I retarded?
>>739572279I did that with Command. I didn't even have a DS.
>>739572132Zero had the misfortune of being released late on the wii u. Assault did release late on GameCube but it definitely had more hype to it and had a lot less excuses for being so bad. Assault was the reason why we don't see many original titles. If you blame command then you're resenting that a small handheld title most simply dismissed somehow had the ability to derail any momentum that a bigger budget and hyped home console game had. If command was able to do that then assault wasn't even good to begin with.
>>739572001*laughs in Star fox Zero*
>>739572279>I bought Zero at launch for full price hoping it would make a difference for more Starfox games. Am I retarded?No and it wasn't in vain. Because the wii u failed Nintendo were forced to recoup the losses and resorted to selling the nes and snes mini consoles, the later of which had the first star fox re-released for the first time ever and star fox 2 getting an official release. So you did ultimately achieve your goal in the end just not the way you intended.
>>739571754Nah; but a on foot walking around Great Fox checking upgrades or plotting missions, On Cornera checking leads, gathering supplies would be different at least.
>>739572517Zero reviewed higher than assault.
>>739572609Because it had the Nintendo bonus. Actual players lambasted zero harder than even assault ever got
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbc_LxfhSoYI'm dying in this heat.
>>739567213This art frame in particular always cracks me up because Krystal looks like a baby about to cry.
>>739571347>She rebuffs him pretty definitively in that game.
Why does /v/ like bad Krystal so much.Answers besides "it makes me horny" or "I don't like her and want to kill her", please.
Isn't star wolf a bunch of murderers for hire? Even if Krystal is a grown ass woman acting like a dumb teenager about her and Fox's relationship because she was raised by dinosaurs or whatever and never got to experience that when she was young, it's pretty psycho of her to think joining a team of war criminals is the only thing she could do to get back at him. Kinda hot though. Plus imagine all the things they could do with Krystal if they made her less reliant on Fox and maybe pursued that whole Cerinia thing
>>739570262Scottish actually.
>>739573398My guess is that Krystal is so fucking boring otherwise, her having a woman moment and rebounding on the worst guy she can find and still be attracted to is at least something.
>>739573398It gives her something to do, besides it gives back a "Star Fox Defector" Type to Star Wolf since Pigma goes independent.
>>739573398A mixture of underdog syndrome and fans deluding themselves thinking she had a lot of potential wasted by Nintendo.
I wish we got dinosaur planet instead, and staar fox gamecube instead of... whatever that crap was
>>739573398It is just that. Krystal has a nice design and adds a romantic pairing to Star Fox. There's not much to think about.
>>739573439No, he is basically just hired muscle and runs a smuggling gang with its own space station in Assault
>>739572001
>>739574074I wish another company besides Namco made a GameCube star fox game.
1. repurpose her history into a character origin beyond "that's why she's magic"2. heel turns are great3. star wolf needs to be less of a sausage fest (sorry, homos)4. her being actually a psycho is kinda hot
>>739574221Assaultfags in a nutshell. Just saying wrong without any actual talking points.
>>739570096How about "I hate when they beg." ? Simple to the point.
>>739574294Meant to be a reply to >>739573398
>>739574245I just wish they actually used Team Aces and not the fucks who made Klonoa.
>>739573398Krystal is a significantly more interesting character when allowed to do things besides orbit Fox.She's also already a mercenary for the hell of it, so it's not much of a stretch to extrapolate what that means for her character. I don't think she's some super evil person, but you don't get into the business of killing people for money if you don't have a reason. >>739573439IIRC Star Wolf went to her not the other way around. She just wanted to keep flying and joined up with the first paramilitary force that asked. Krystal is also significantly younger than Fox. Like she's 19 to his 27. Her acting like a teenager is to be expected seeing as she is one.
>>739573398The more you look at mid-2000's media the more you see how many writers rely on relationship drama for easy shock valueIt's just the kind of thing that makes you think, >"Hey what if this wasn't just meant for spur of the moment angst?"
>>739574312That's much better. Although i feel the line should address him, but i'm not creative enough to think of anything.
>>739572609assault reviewed terribly among journalists because its very worst level was also its first one>kill all enemies map>on foot
>>739574530>>"Hey what if this wasn't just meant for spur of the moment angst?"Pretty much. Taking something that's cheap and treating it as legitimate can, even if nothing else, lead to some interesting discussions about the character's involved.I think if I was going to change it I'd make Fox younger at time, so his heartbreak is more "the first cut is the deepest", with him picking one hell of a girl to cut him.It's also just fun to think about characters not seeing other characters for what they really are.
>>739573439>>739574435Isn't it just because star fox Command had bad writers and as such everything about it is written badly, especially Krystal?
>>739574691I just started playing Assault yesterday and that shit filtered me not gonna lie
>>739560510>s it an Italian thing?Spaniard thing, and yes it is.
>>739574435IIRC it was basically>Krystal fucks off from Star Fox to go independent because she felt Fox was getting overprotective.>Panther scouts her out is implied to get concerned (and having caught actual feelings) and convinces Wolf to put her on the team.>She actually pulls her weight on missions and isn't Pigma Dengar so she stays on. That Fox seethes is a massive bonus!I haven't touched Command in over 10 years though.
>>739574767Yes, but we literally have no other stories in this series worth discussing. Command's awful writing can be discussed endlessly.
>>739574825Isn't the first mission a traditional on rails one?
>>739566375One betrayal negates everything
>>739574767I won't argue against that. Command is written like terrible deviantart fanfiction. Krystal turns into an Andross apologist midway through just to piss Fox off. It would be funny if it didn't effectively kill the series.>>739574825Try control type B if you ever give it another go. Being able to aim and move at the same time goes a long way to making on foot secitons tolerable. It's genuinely obscene that it isn't the default.
>>739574961Yeah, the on foot mission is the second one.
>>739574961IIRC it was not only on rails but one of the cooler ones, that starts in space and then goes planetside.
>>739572372Your rambling schizo theories are getting worse with age, Patch.
>>739574767I'd much prefer they do anything with what they've established than remake 64 again (which was itself a reboot of SNES)
>>739574854>(and having caught actual feelings)That's kinda funny. Always like when villains still feel positive human emotions. Cackling maniacs are fun, but bad guys that still love others, or value things beyond money or fame, is always good.Not everyone has to be "le complicated", but having that aspect can be fun for certain characters.
>>739574435So Krystal was just 10 or 11 when 64 was happening?
Playing 64 for the first* time (restarted after the third planet because I didn't like how my run was going, changed up the controls to be more in line with the 3DS version because the VC defaults to a really bizarre control scheme), and ended up following Falco in the first stage behind a waterfall, and now I'm here. It's crazy how fucking badly you fuck up Andross going this way. Fox just runs a freight train on his army.
>>739574767Command actually had favorable reviews and scored better than assault.
>>739574435>19 is a teenagerStupid libcuck.
>>739575000Even with control B assault plays like shit. Makes me wish I was playing any other shooter.
>>73957515719 (pronounced nine-teen) is literally a teenager.
>>739575157I mean...it literally is. NineTEEN.
>>739575051Thinking anyone who states things you don't like has to be the same one person it pathetic.
>>739574854>>Panther scouts her out is implied to get concerned (and having caught actual feelings) and convinces Wolf to put her on the team.Considering Leon in this >>739562942 he probably gave Panther some real shit for that.
Would Katt be a good influence on Krystal?
They should go all in on the remake angle and make a sequel where they trap Fox in a timeloop he needs to escape from
>>739575000>Try control type B if you ever give it another go. Being able to aim and move at the same time goes a long way to making on foot secitons tolerable. It's genuinely obscene that it isn't the default.I was fine with the controls until I had to get into the landmaster and motherfuckers were getting chased in the air and asking for help while aparoids were spawning endlessly forcing me to split my attention between the ground and the sky at random intervals. That shit was awful, but maybe I just need to suck it up and get used to it.
>>739573439>>739574435>>739574854I don't know how people missed this:within Star Wolf Krystal is taking the place of Andrew Oikonny.In other words, when Oikonny and the political connections he brings are gone, the team brings in a well liked foreign princess.Star Wolf always has an aristocratic figure that can do diplomacy at a higher level and allows for more legitimacy.
People need to get over their obsession with Krystal cucking Fox, it's genuinely repulsive
>>739575410Fox is boring and furfags want him to be gay for wolf anyway
>>739575410>People need to get over their obsession with Krystal cucking Fox, it's genuinely repulsivet.
>>739575148>game journalistsnot helping your point, anon
>>739570597The proof these sections suck, is while trying to praise it you couldn't help but correct its issues and turn it back into an Arwing level. They're less bad than the on foot sections. That's about all I can say about them.
>>739560873>In Assault Star Wolf helped eliminate the aparoid threat that almost destroyed the galaxy>Still bad guys in commandHuh?
>>73956294230 year old man by the way.
>>739575457>Fox is boringWhen he's in character, no he's not.
>>739571754NoI would accept different vehicles, but the solution there is you can swap control between different pilots in a mission, not fuck around on foot. If a mission had both a landmaster and an arwing section you had to manage, that has potential. This is a rail shooter/dogfighter. Don't keep cramming awful shitass genres that don't belong in the rail shooter game
>>739570597>Like imagine a mission or two where you pilot the Great Fox itself. Slow-moving, but an absolute power fantasy of destruction.That was called Star Fox Command, and Command was shit, for a multitude of reasons.
>>739572001NoAssault has like 4 Arwing stages, which is 3 more than Adventures had
>>739572146ThisKrystal is hot, but she is an awful character. There's no salvaging her, short of just making a new character that looks like her.
>>739575106I do love the hard route because of that. Narratively, Star Fox instantly reverses the tide of the war and puts Venomian forces on the back foot.
>>739575487Its a metric that those games are better than assault. Where's your facts?
>>739570127Nu-Katt wants Falco, not Fox.Fox has Wolf for the daddy issues + tsundere
>>739575705What are you talking about? Adventures had more arwing and on rail stages than assault.
>>739572560I could see thisI don't think walkable hubs really add anything over a menu, but it's fine
>>739575457You're boring.
>>739571347>The only reason she hooks up with him in Command is because she is trying to make Fox upset.Petty woman moment.Fox should've let her go.
>>739575791>Krystal is hot, but she is an awful character. There's no salvaging her, short of just making a new character that looks like her.Like my autistic OC Donut Steel from the last thread?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/739463486/#739512498
>>739575410That just makes me appreciate Fara Pheonix a lot more. Despite only appearing in the old Nintendo power comic from 1993 she showed way better chemistry with fox than krystal ever did. Why exactly does fox and Krystal like each other so much other than superficial looks? If fox was smart he should have dumped her blue ass and find a better woman. Fox's mom wouldn't even approve of Krystal since at least Fara was rich.
>>739575975He did. That was the problem. He kicked her out and then was mad that she left.Fox fumbled the bag about as badly as anyone ever could.
I used to ship Krystal and wolf because I like stoic grizzled guys getting a woman because I never see that often anymore.
>>739575528This just makes me pissed at Namco that they could have tried to make more arwing levels instead of this bullshit where you just slowly do laps around a multiplayer stage. Even the roller coaster gameplay in super Mario sunshine was better than this crap.
>>739576180Apparently Assault was supposed to be multiplayer only and they added a singleplayer campaign at the last minute.
>>739570678And then she cucked him Bentley in the 4th game anyway.
>>739568178She'll become presbyterian when she marries Fox
>>739576024Not sure it depends on how they'd fit in the game and mingle with the characters
>>739574435>types out this entire post while posting edge Star Wolf KrystalIt's amazing how Krystalfags immediately out themselves.Pretty certain 90% of Krystal supporting posts these past few threads are just one anon desperate to spread his cuck fetish around. It always comes back to the dick with these tired fuckers.
>>739576279That is an explanation but not an excuse to why the campaign ended up being so bad. They should have doubled down on the arena combat and add more objectives. Perhaps even forgoing the aparoids in favor of more levels with you shooting against other anthro characters from either Andrew, star wolf, or another faction. For a game called star fox assault I was disappointed how little you actually do the assaulting against another military force.
>>739576374>It always comes back to the dick Krystal doesn't have a dick.Ha ha ha...Unless?
>>739576279I'd believe it, but that's kinda sad. It's okay as a multiplayer game. On certain stages, with certain settings off or on. And character bans.
>>739576287She is a wealthy criminal who hosts a deadly competition after all. Bentley couldn't hope to keep her.
>>739576524She is a hyena
>>739575457If Fox is 'boring' Krystal is a god damn rock.
Can someone explain why Krystal is held up to such a high standard in terms of judgment. Like being called simple when every other character are simple characters, etc. why all that for her in particular
>>739576653Ironically Krystal was at her best in the game where she was trapped inside a giant krystal. Adventures gave her a fairly decent prologue segment which made her genuinely likable and gave us some idea of who she is as a character. The ending also was a good reward for fox and the player for all the effort they put into beating the game. A shame she was squandered in assault with her being a flanderized version of her adventures iteration: looking even more sexy and only real characterization is having the hots for fox
>>739576873Because she's boring.
This weird tentacle boss with the beam right before Venom in 64 is fucking hard. Any suggestions?
>>7395768731. She isn't even a 'simple character'. She has none at all.2. Her introduction to the series is disconnected and rather bizarre, with some random dinosaur planet and space magic and stuff3. Annoying fans who try to make the entire series about her. See half of these recent threads (not just this one, but several before) being Krystal fans posting weird fanfiction comics where she openly mocks Fox and is some edgy teen fantasy Star Wolf member. It's a 16 year old's fantasy fanfiction.4. Her design doesn't even fit in as well as the the rest of the cast with the weird human hair which everyone else lacks. Even Miyu and Fay don't have the weird sex hair and are designed perfectly in line with the rest of the cast. Just use them. Easy.
>>739576943She also was forced to accept the shounen-school-of-thougt useless woman ball. The thing that makes characters like Amy Rose and Sakura completely insufferable, because not even the game/show itself wants you to like them, and will actively make itself worse, to avoid them having any cool moments. Assault made her come off as a worse, more unreliable pilot than goddamn Slippy. They didn't have to do this. They could have done any number of alternative things.
>>739577245Stick to the upper left side of the screen while he's charging the laser and immediately pull down to the lower right when he starts firing, I always manage to dodge it completely that way
>>739576943>she was squandered in assault with her being a flanderized version of her adventures iterationThat's because Assault's story was about the frog, who is absolutely nobody's favorite character, being the star of the story and finally going I'M USEFUL despite the entirety of Slippy's character being 'FOX GET THESE GUYS OFF ME'>But Slippy developed the code that killed the aparoids!Yep, and Assault was Slippy's anime filler episode game. That's why Assault is shit, not the gameplay. Slippy's writing when nobody likes or cares about him.Even Fox's daddy issues take a backseat to Slippy in Assault
>>739576873Because people really need to cope and say that she's the reason Star Fox died, when it's literally Miyamoto's fault for remaking 64 three times in 15 years and has a grudge against plot in video games
>>739577245Don't get hitReally that's itUnless you know what you're doing it's more important to fight that one safely than fast. It's an attrition battle. Take your time. Don't risk getting hit to get off three more shots and avoid adding another cycle to whatever step you're on.
>>739577245Unironically git gud.Focus on the tentacle arms first, then the "light" weak points, repeat, then the center eye where the laser cannon is located. You just keep moving preferably in a clockwise/counter-clockwise motion on the edges of the screen if you want to be safe.
>>739575345I think in the “Get Back to the Kitchen” ending of command, she helps convince Krystal to get back with Fox.
>>739577331I've just been circling around the laser while spamming barrel rolls. I'm having a really hard time with the tentacles and the orbs when he opens up.
>>739577314She's not the only one with human hair, but I don't think many people know about this character.
>>739577463You're implying the vast majority of Star Fox fans have ever actually played even one of the games
>>739577463oh hey, she's cute
What are wolf’s other crimes besides employing himself with Andross? Is he just a space pirate? I know in Assault he controls some black market place.
>>739577463>>739577526I played that game like 20+ years ago yeah I don't remember her.Even then she looks like they took Krystal and tweaked the colors.
>>739577463I used to sit around with the sniper rifle and stare at her, I always thought she was super cute.
I feel like the people who whine about fantasy shit in a sci-fi game like Star Fox have literally never experienced any other sci-fi franchise ever. Star Trek is absolutely full of it.
>>739574854I can provide dialogue quotes to support this, but the story was basically:>Fox makes Krystal leave Star Fox because he was genuinely worried about her safety (we are not told what he said or how he said it, but Fox admits he was being arrogant)>Krystal, who was already a skilled fighter before even meeting Fox, is humiliated by this>Wolf personally tells Fox she immediately went to Star Wolf with the intention of hurting Fox. >In a separate route, she tells Slippy that she did join Star Wolf to upset fox, but only at first. >She also comes up with the plan to have Wolf pretend to join Fox so that they could steal the teraformer, and take all the credit for stopping the Anglars, which I think was the only really amoral thing she does in Command.
>>739560510>arrivesyou just said. he already came, there's nothing for him to do after that. he's a premature ejaculator.
>>739577701You have to be daft to act like Adventures isn't a pretty heave handed helping of magic bullshit compared to 64.Though Andross himself is literally an evil space wizard in service to your point. And the official comic was way more science fantasy then any of the games prior to Adventures let on.
>>739577627I assume general mercenary shit. Being a mercenary is glamorous and legal when the government is hiring you to kill the bastards, but if you keep your doors open after the war is over, that's illegal use of force, there, buddy, you're gonna have to stop that.
>>739577314T-b-h her hair looks good on her imo. Helps it’s not too different from her main color. Her design is honestly not bad but I can see why people find it off a bit
God Command was such a fucking mistake for this franchise. Abandoning it immediately after with no follow-up entry is the worst shit they could have done. 20 years later and people are still discussing it when the official developers have literally stated that it isn't.
>>739576873Best way to describe it is Krystal is a round peg trying to fit in a square hole. The other characters are fairly simple but they have a function in the titles and serve those roles well. Even fay and miyu who are barely even characters serve their role as being the pretty faces on a different arwing variant well. Krystal was brought in with an already awkward bio that didn't fit in well with the star fox universe. It didn't really present much of an issue in adventures since she was largely isolated from the major characters and most of the game, along with adventures itself feeling out of place for star fox, but by assault she was given the role of replacing peppy. This was a big issue since peppy had an established role and chemistry with the other cast and Krystal failed to fit in well. Her actual character was never properly fleshed out and even the developer didn't know how to use her well. It didn't help she was relegated to being the love interest.
>>739577627Well he's considered a ruthless mercenary for a good reason. I just assume he's done a lot of shady shit even before working with Andross.
>>739577995There's unironically nothing wrong with a character largely being just a love interest. Pyra from XC2 is more or less just a love interest, too. The real issue is that Command completely fucked over what they had going for the sake of drama. It made both Fox and Krystal look really bad, and it's not competently written well enough to have handled such a heavy subject. Forcing a bad ending on your first playthrough hardly helps make matters any better.
>>739577920Honestly the bad thing was the execution, on PAPER Command actually has sounds like it has neat ideas.>Multiple Playable Characters (Double Digits!)>Branching story with choices that matter (after first playthrough)>Tactical aspects from SF2.The writing being fanfic-tier (and honestly not really that present on all paths) and arguably the "scribble" due being a DS game hurts it along with the lack of variation even with all the different characters.The real big mistake was focusing on All-Range mode. people don't really state this enough, Command was very much based on SF2 (and keep in mind this was when we weren't technically supposed to have SF2, even though the rom was out.)
>>739575819>Nu-Katt wants FalcoOld Katt wanted him as well. Hell, one of the Command endings has her making a new team with him after Star Fox does the final battle without him, and he leaves the team again.
>>739578503>Pyra is just a love interestLmfao. Xenoblade 2 filters brainlets.
>>739578713She is. She's Mythra's other self that she created because of all that happened, and she may as well stop existing after Chapter 3. She's very generic kawaii uguu~ anime girl with big boobies that Rex obviously ended up with because le boy meets girl story. And no I won't get into what they did in 3 that fucked over the ending of 2 just to make everyone happy but ended up making no one happy
>mrw woman in star fox
So if I want to play Command am I buying a copy online or is there a community favorite romhack that adds controller support?
>>739570135Assault owes respect to Star Fox 2, the game that on a SNES controller, had better third person shooting controls than assault's default shit
>>739578540Honestly calling Command fanfiction is an insult to fanfictionWell, some of it, at least, but I've definitely read more compelling fanfiction
>>739575410>peoplemudgolem americans are not people. they are just products for Israeli corporations
>>739579256I literally saw an account making that shit last night and they were from Indonesia, you're not fooling anyone by shifting the blame
>>739579070There are ways to set up controller support for Command.The game really isn't built with that in mind, but you can do it. Definitely don't buy a copy. People are still trying to charge $60 for it.
Pumping Krystal
I tried buying the plushies, but uh... Meccha's shipping is insane
Imagine this thing curled up on your lap while you play vidya.
>>739571754Only if it's in the style of star fox 2 where you can quickly go back to flying.Why people think Star Fox characters should walk like regular footsoldiers when the entire setting is a science fantasy universe and nobody EVER fucking thinks of giving them power armor (because you know, lasers are painful shit).Literally give them some Buzz Lightyear style power armor so you can justify the existence of a boost gauge in your HUD during grounded missions.
>>739579471>People are still trying to charge $60 for it.Even Zero is showing up at $50. I got mine NIB for like $10. Same with Other M (now $45) and Sonic '06 (now $20).
>>739579774Okay.Do I have a gun I can kill it with or do I just have to deal with it by hand?
I used to snub Assault over the physics back when I played it as a dumb kid at a kiosk. I'm revisiting it now and it's fun.
>>739573398Either Krystal is actually a bad person, or she is the most retarded sterotypical cheating bitch foid in any nintendo game. Which do you think is more narratively satisfying?
>>739580161It is fun but the physics are undeniably worse.
>>739563249I wonder if they were completely blindsided by the response the Illumination version of Fox got. They clearly weren't anticipating it being such a stand out part of the movie, or they would have tried to make the new game synergize with it.
>>739579960just go all the way and have the arwing transform to battroid mode
>>739580364I used to hate how floaty it felt, but aren't G-diffusers anti-gravity tech? So it makes sense for an Arwing to feel weightless. Guessing that's what they were going for anyway. Still not a fan of lacking dedicated shoulder buttons for lean though.
>>739580663Considering that the arwings have obvious rocket engines, I always assumed the g-diffusers were something built into the arwing to protect the pilot from the g-force of their maneuvers.
>>739580605The transformable arwing should be its own vehicle and not something universal akin to star fox 2. I don't dislike the idea that there should be more vehicles and different kinds of missions like a true highspeed chase akin to what Star fox 1 had on the snes, specifically Venom from the level 2 route taking place on a city highway whose boss fight is against a highspeed vehicle. Just put fox on a speed bike and put f-zero x physics on that bitch + strap some machineguns and call it a day.
>>739580801I just think if they do transform they shouldn't turn into fucking chicken walkers. That shit looks stupid and Zero was stupid for bringing them back.
>>739580520I've seen more people talk about Fox than Rosalina. The fact that they didn't have toys made for him shows that they weren't ready.
>>739566961>can't even count on fan content now to avoid this shitty rebootbros, it's so fucking over
>new gayme isnt even online or splitscreen coopWhat the fuck is the point? God forbid any evolution with this series is done.
>>739566961you know, for a while I thought people were being too mean calling Freddy boy a fag and delusional for claiming gay shippers were actually misogynists, but I think this drawing vindicated all of those posters
>>739580948The walker looked fine for SF2, the wings turning into legs is cool, but Zero just going full chicken mode is stupid.Instead, it should be something more akin to a Diaclone toy, going from plane to humanoid robot or something ressembling an Armoed Core mech, gameplay included because it is uncanny how SF2's walker gameplay feels like super oldschool armored core
>>739581185Gay zoomers are cancer and adamantly hate women and get hyper offended about it
>>739581185Whoever designed new Katt CLEARLY hates women, because why the fuck would you ever do that to her
>>739578569I hate this Katt design so much. Even more than chainsmoker Katt.
>>739566961Good lord
>>739577627Mercs sometimes have to do unsavory shit to keep afloat in peaceful times for better pay.
>>739566961She looks better in that style than in the actual game
>>739569517drawing gay art on the side
>>739578987replace her with nu-Katt and suddenly the scenario makes sense
>>739581516scary to think that if Command came out nowadays the toxic positivity tendie brigade would be defending it like it was the second coming of Christ
>>739581737 hot
>>739581921>tfw we will never get the fullalso, what the hell is Fox doing down there?
>>739582015He's helping Wolf.
>>739563897Stop making the redesigns hotter
I know nothing about Star Fox games but has Krystal actually cucked Fox? Like she ended up hanging out with a rival gang, full of testosterone. They surely fucked or this incorrect?
>>739583059command has at least two different endings where pic related bangs krystal
>>739579774Aside from the AI face, the rest looks fine to me.
>>739583059Fox canonically fucks Krystal in multiple endings of Command, and the one where he and her have a child together is typically the one the vast majority of people consider canon.>>739583138Not really. At most he'd have a one-night stand with him and realize he's a one pump chump and that barbs feel like shit. The default ending and the Kursed one may as well be the same ending, so Krystal would eventually leave Star Wolf regardless until years later before Fox fucks her back to her senses.
>>739562942why did the people who made this hate star fox so much
>>739583059Krystal never cucked Fox because they broke up first in any timeline where fucking panther was an option.
>>739583059> Has Krystal actually cucked Fox?Out of the 9 endings of Command. 3 of them are Krystal ends up with Panther and working with Star Wolf (though she leaves that team too in one ending), 3 of them are her either forgiving Fox and returning to Star Fox (or in one ending becoming his wife, both having moved on from piloting). The other 3 are standalone endings that have nothing to do with Fox and Krystal's relationship. So the answer is it's up to the player.
>>739583303LMAO THIS NIGGA IS EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN FOX AND KRYSTAL
>>739560510Truly the only actual fuckable Star Fox character
>>739583396Two endings they end up together, actuallyTechnically three because she rejoins Star Fox and they likely hash it out later>>739583417Dirty brown monkey hands typed this
>People still discussing Command like it's canonGod this franchise is fucking doomed.
>>739567327needs to have napalm explosions reflecting off his aviators
>>739583598>Dirty brown monkey hands typed thisWhy, because I'm not autistic enough to still be mad about a poorly written DS game from 2006?
>>739569517He's one guy.
>>739584256No, because you're a retarded zoomer incapable of liking anything unless it's ironically because you're terrified of being called cringe yourself, which you are.
>>739572372If they put Zero on the switch it would kill.
>>739584426I don't like Star Fox Command or Sonic Adventure ironically. I don't like them at all. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are extremely mediocre and Command fucking sucks. Being invested in the fucking WRITING of STAR FOX COMMAND, an infamously badly written game where the total time spent writing it was probably less than the run time of playing the game, is PROFOUNDLY autistic. You don't have to like the plot, I sure as shit don't, but it's extremely unhealthy to let it get to you, TWENTY FUCKING YEARS LATER
>>739575407>he forgot about the GREAT LEON
>>739584680There is no evidence that THE GREAT LEON is actually any kind of aristocrat, despite having a posh accent in SF64.
>>739584632I never asked. I'm making a factual statement. No need to throw a fit, cringelord
Krystal never got a chance to be in a traditional star fox game. If the 2026 game does decent enough, maybe she will get to be. Then she has to get a personality. But with shiggy still around, I doubt he will let them FINALLY make starfox 64 2. Because he wants the starfox series to be used for experiments for some fucking reason.
>>739584798Your statement was wrong in multiple ways. First of all, I'm most likely older than you. I was in high school when command came out, where as you were probably around 10, which is why Star Fox getting cucked hurt your heart. Secondly, you claimed that I was incapable of liking things unironically and that I was coming down on the game (and you) for being cringeworthy. This is not true, the game is just bad, you are in denial about the plot, and you are pathetic for caring about it as much as you do, and for your health I am trying to help you to realize that it doesn't even slightly matter.
>>739584283He could hire some assistants to help him with the money he got selling merch + youtube views + patreon.
Krystal with a black rose womb tattoo
I want Krystal to have robot legs
I want to delicately cut off Krystal's healthy legs in front of her and lick them before her crying face
Whomst
>>739585794This
>>739585794e254e is that you?
>>739571754On foot combat against other man size enemies is just not a good fit imo the space ship and aerial combat is what makes it what it is. Maybe if it was like earth defense force I could see it kind of working, but they are pilot first and foremost than ground infantry
For all the shit Command takes, it at least has some good quality elements i wish were expanded on, like multiple unique ships from each character and while its endings are mostly doodoo, the game does have that sense of finality in it. If we cherrypick the good ends, Star Wolf's name is cleared off criminal records, star fox members retire and live happily ever after and Venom will not be a dumpster of a planet anymore. Also that ending theme is bittersweet as fuck.
>>739560510That son of a bitch panthero cucked me! I want his bounty increased twofold!
>>739562942Command is seriously so fucking bad.
>>739571754A linear/rail version could be fun, playing like a run-and-gun where platforming matters as much as combat
>>739586675I personally like the storyline and ending where Fox’s reunites the real Star Fox team and then has a kid with Krystal then it flashes forward to their kid being part of the next generation and Falco is the Peppy of their team.Its pretty much every other storyline that sucks dick.>>739586826Thats right bitch. You go in the corner and elipses yourself. Wrecked.
>>739586976I feel like if the game didn't literally force you to get a shitty ending in your first playthrough, then the criticism wouldn't be as severe. But they literally expect you to play through the entire game again just to get a different ending, and that's retarded for a game advertising itself as having multiple endings
>>739575531they did more crimes in the meantime
>>739585043How much money does he even make? I actually do give $5 on patreon now that I think about it.
>>739572001I'm enjoying it more than Adventures or 2. 2 is a neat concept but the boilerplate format for levels and blink-and-you-miss-them space encounters are pretty lame. Adventures is a straight-up bad game. It's a Zelda ripoff where exploration is isolated into little globules per wherever you've reached on the map, so it doesn't even get exploration right. The only good thing it does is intersperse the Arwing and speederbike stuff and that's only conceptually, the implementation is bland as fuck just like everything else about the game.
>>739583707Command is canon
I like the command ending where the game ends really early because Slippy just says “screw it I’m going to fuck my frog wife silly” and then it’s said he never ever ever talked with anyone on Star Fox again even in an age of advanced digital communication.
>>739571754Star Fox should do anything other than remake 64 again.Give me Adventures 2, give me on-foot combat, give me a whole fucking game in the Blue Marine, but by god give me something NEW.
>>739587412It literally isn’t.
>>739587470Does it even matter if it’s canon if it’s the last game in the timeline anyway
>>739586826Assault is even worse.
>>739587412Not only is it not canon, but the creators literally apologized for making it.
>>739586675>Star Wolf's name is cleared off criminal records,Fuck that. They worked for Andross. The fact that they're even still alive after the events of Star Fox 64 is nonsense.
>>739587516Assault is a great game except for the extremely awful audio mixing and the incredibly short length
>>739587576Whats more retarded is that both Pigma and Andrew are somehow still alive in Command despite pretty clearly getting killed in Assault.
>>739587437the Slippy has seven kids and moves to aquas to become white trash ending is a classic
>>739572843Are these done by the same people who draw for Helluva Boss, or something?I'm asking because this art style looks very familiar to me, most particularly Krystal's head and the way they draw smiles and grins, but I can't pinpoint where from.
>>739587437>>739587723>slippy goes “i wonder what those guys are up to nowadays”>doesn’t bother contacting him despite being the technology geek and 100% having the capability of doing so
>>739564546M8 there's a reason Picard never put Troi on the away team. She's there to look pretty, not fight.
>>739587639The arwing is too slow and the foot combat is boring
>>739587574Source?
>>739562942>>739586826genuinely awful what the hell
>>739571754Yes.
>>739588175It was a reddit AMAhttps://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/8mu1pp/comment/dzqkhn8/
>>739588276They put a westerner, Dylan Cuthbert, in charge of the writing.
>>739587716Pigma, yes, Andrew, not necessarily
>>739587716Andrew's Venomian revanchism is pretty hilarious. He chose to make a mech that looks exactly like Andross's fucked up cyborg "body" despite the fact that almost nobody would understand the symbolic significance of it.
>>739581505And the answer to who that was is: Women themselves. They want every single women in a game to look like a hideous abomination because they feel threatened for it. These parasites feed on attention, so even the anima representation of an ideal threaten them. And men, the retarded cuck simps they are, follow the lead.
>>739581505>>739588872The annoying thing is that making Katt ugly cute could actually work if it weren't for the whore makeup
>>739588429I don't see the apology part. The wording also makes it sound like they're all canon and not canon at the same time since it is the player that chooses and so far nothing contradicts any of the paths as being wrong.
>>739588540Imamura did the writing but Nintendo of America did the English translation.
>>739589009The whole game isn’t canon from that statement.
>>739588970The entire game was already compromised with that ugly-as-sin art style anyway.
>>739589052Imamura was technically in charge of the story but Dylan Cuthbert was the one who actually did it. He's the one who decided on the CYOA narrative design in the first place.
>>739560510>Oh thank god, now I can finally get knocked up by Wolf.
Is there even any chance in hell the adventure rumor is real? Would they have greenlit TWO Star fox games at the same time? Or perhaps they started developing the adventure first and then whipped '26 up, like Dread during MP4's development?
>>739588429https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/11axc88/so_where_did_the_whole_star_fox_command_isnt/
>>739589151Again, source?
>>739589234The fact that the direct went out of its way to acknowledge Adventures makes me suspicious. Won't be surprised if a post-credits scene shows Krystal or namedrops Sauria.
>>739589362I want something that shows up the destruction of Ceremnioa and we see a young Krystal sent off-world, not unlike Super Man origin story.
>>739589362I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. Ignoring 64 3d those three titles shown were the only star fox games to sell well aka at least 1 million.
>>739589234There's always a chance but nothing leaked or rumored so far provides a strong enough case that it indeed does exist.
>>739589361Google it faggot
>>739562942>>739586826well no fucking wonder they just kept remaking 64 after command, jesus christ
>>739589617https://www.vgfacts.com/game/starfoxcommand/trivia-17077/#comment_list
>>739584798NTA but he is right about that the people behind these games never spend more than a half of a sole braincell coming up with the plot and writing it, which is not exclusive of those games but their entire respective series. Videogame "stories" are comic book or japanese saturday morning cartoon at most, and there's nothing significant behind it.
>>739589803>Videogame "stories" are comic book or japanese saturday morning cartoon at most, and there's nothing significant behind it.Retard.
>>739584256You went into a hobbyist message board, criticized somebody's hobbyist tendency toward the medium talking like a porch monkey, and now you're reeling around because you got slapped right back because why do YOU care what HE cares about. Get a grip, little nigger.
>>739589937I was insulting him for posting deivant art shipping delusions over a shit game nobody likes, and fuck you too.
>>739590006Yeah, stay triggered that he called you brown and was right. Serves you right for acting like a hoe.
>>739589848Help yourself to feel upset, but the point still stands. Not saying that it can't be fun, but there's nothing else to it. Best videogame fiction can be is just pleasurable entertainment with great aesthetics but is not designed to make you think or consider life from other perspective. Nobody in the history of this industry had put as much thought writing games as much as the community think it does. If anything, plots are just contextual excuses to create the game, but is never really built upon to a greater extent.
Was Andross always a big head or was that just an experiment
>>739587452If they do make a new game krystal should be excluded and retired from the series.
>>739589803>>739590064I disagree. Many videogames have thoughtful scripts. Command just isn't one of them. >>739590097He used to be a normal monkey, which we know because he has biological descendants.
>>739590064>is not designed to make you think or consider life from other perspectiveI do that when I take a shit, nigger. Stories don't need to be 2deep4u to be good, they need to be entertaining. That's why no one reads books anymore, all niggas write about is trite musings on the intricacies of life as if its some profound mystery that hasn't been cracked by anyone with an IQ above room temp.
>>739590203>Many videogames have thoughtful scripts.I'm sincerely asking you to name some examples. I think there are some exceptions like Morrowind or Disco Elysium, which despite any opinions, those are games where you can see directly that there's real thought behind the story writing process.>>739590251Who's no one? You? The greatest fiction can give you something of value and entertain you as well, this retarded fake dichotomy that "it's either style or substances" is just modern hack and pseuds coping. Sorry that the only fiction you have been exposed to has been the Taco Bell equivalent of it.
>>739590364>I think there are some exceptions like Morrowind or Disco Elysium, Pffft. Midwit
>>739590364>The greatest fiction can give you something of value and entertain you as wellSure they can. But they don't need to. You've already conceded this argument, stories don't need to be profound to be good and beloved. Stories are entertainment first and forth-most, ergo their prime directive is to be entertaining.
The entire Star Fox crew ran a train on Krystal and Fox takes it just like that. This series is so dumb.
>>739590512>Star Fox*Star Wolf
>>739571754Yes, it was awesome (for heterosexuals)
>>739590512>>739590564That's fine. Fara was better for fox anyways. There is nothing that shows Krystal being a better girlfriend than Fara.
>>739590704This is the most retarded post I've seen in this thread. Fags love wolf and he's easily the best character in multiplayer. On foot also sucks in assault.
>>739577318Amy can at least do things when left to her own devices. Sakura is just straight up useless
>>739575000God I want to fuck Krystal while she's wearing the amazon outfit. I want her SO BAD.
assualt is 100x better than adventure and if you dont agree youre a fag
>>739590993>assualt is 100x better than adventure and if you dont agree youre a fagProve it incel
The remake is pulling from an official manga that was supplementary material for Adventures to bridge the events between 64 and that game, so there's potential for the brand to keep pulling from other materials or re-canonize stuff.
>>739590713What makes her better than Krystal?
>>739591048From Farewell Falco? Do you have a source for that?
>>739591196You can already make it out partially in that render, the back of Falco's jacket says "Free As a Bird." I swear I've seen it more fully but GIS was being a bitch.
>>739591048The Manga is called farewell, beloved falcohttps://mangadex.org/title/daacd330-0267-4503-b05e-04925ddeef85/star-fox-farewell-beloved-falco
>>739590564Nah, Leon is gay for Falco, he wouldn't cheat on his boy toy.
>>739591169Its just the sally acorn thing that the really fucking old autistic sonic fans do. Its about on the same level as dobson getting uppity about Link being a blonde or Peach (thats TOADSTOOL to you! ):| ) not having arms like popeye
>>739591048Honestly considering that the rumor of there being an Adventures game next year, it would make a lot of sense for them to take from Farewell, Beloved Falco, considering that comic is quite literally the bridge connecting those two games
>>739591169She's rich and won't be a financial drainShe's intelligentShe actually makes the time to actually know about foxThey get along really well platonically She'd actually a good pilotShe is actually useful To name a few
>>739590993Assault had a nice Fox design, I’ll give it that.
In Star Fox 64’s intro, is the line about Andross turning most of the Lylat system into a wasteland of near extinction a mistranslation?
>>739591303I agree with what anon said earlier about it being suspicious they showed Adventure in that brief series retrospective, especially when it omitted Assault.
>>739591395I am pretty sure he says that the planet Venom is a wasteland of near extinction
>>739586826I actually took this scene at face value that there was merit to Andross being more than just a power mad scientist. I like this idea that Andross was framed and somehow went crazy from the isolation and Venom air, but the problem is that I find it hard to believe that he both tried to make this special planet saving device and also ruined Zoness and was in the process of doing Aquas the same way.
>>739588010>t. filtered by Aparoid Homeworld
>>739591423I just hope they don't keep the art style from this new remake for that game, because holy fuck will it be a disaster if they do. Please return to traditional designs, they were already perfected in Zero for fuck sake
>>739591362I hate his design. His outfit is silly, his head doesn't look right, and his teeth are awful.
>>739568746For me, it's Cameo Leon
>>739591654Unironically just use the Smash Fox
>>739591527That is the last two levels of the game. When the other 8 are also slow and boring then the entire game is just bad
>>739591721Which is ironic when they expect you to play through the game multiple times to get a better ending
>>739591771He is talking about Assault. Command is way fucking worse though, so yes, you are correct
>>739576873Miyamoto stole her, it's a cross between Conker's Berri getting redone but instead of it being Rare's doing it was Miyamoto's after he coopted Disansaur Planet faster than coopting the entire game of Pro-Am 64, though this time as I understand it was less of a collab and more of a takeover.
>>739591710>smash Fox
Btw, will a patched Dinosaur Planet N64 ROM be playable to the end in an emulator or do I need the decomp?
>>739591863would
>>739591836>Miyamoto stole her, IS THERE ANYONE SHE HASN'T KEKED FOX WITH??
>>739591836Diddy Kong Racing is a great game though and better than any Mario Kart. Adventures was better than that shitty Dino Planet prototype
>>739590945>>739591356I'm surprised Krystal never dawned her old fashion at any point and kept the space suits. She's basically a Heavy Metal's Taarakian in anthro Fox form and got frozen before she could do shit.
>>739591895Dinosaur planet never actually was finished so we won't get a fully complete game with a proper ending unless more stuff leaks assuming it even exists.
>>739591970Her assault space suit was sexo. Way better than the cave girl outfit
>>739591921I fully agree, the only game that even compared to DKR at the time is Crash Team. When I read into it, Rare wanted Diddy to sell the game with star power and were keen on letting Nintendo license them Diddy. I also understand that Adventures didn't have that gusto and they only did it to appease their relationship with Nintendo.
>>739591362Not just nice, the best one.
>>739592058Amazon Krystal > Space KrystalDeal with it nigger.
>>739592085I bet if the buyout didn't happen then Adventures would have great
>>739591362too scrunchy. Reminded me of the faces of the Tylers and Coltons I grew up with in my white high school and middle schools. Like the face of someone making Beavis noises quietly because they're looking forward to pegging people in the head with footballs after class.
>>739592058Her adventures outfit is cute and fitting for the game's setting. Assault looks ridiculous and too blatantly fanservice to look like it is a viable thing in that setting. I want my fanservice in games to have a sense of plausible practicality in the designs. Like rouge the bat had a bare back until the recent game which made sense since she had wings on her back which she needs unrestricted by clothes to fly.
>>739592217I can imagine since she is sued to wearing a loincloth that she probably feels constrained in a space suit, especially her girls. No I'm not horny, I genuinely am guessing that would be probable.
>Dabba dabadada dabba
So when are they putting Adventures on the virtual console
>>739592319Sunshine isnt even on virtual console
>>739592290Is that true?
I'm thinking of making a Star Fox OC, a girl character. What's a species that is both underrepresented but present in the franchise? Like something that isn't some special snowflake species like an axolotl, something we've seen in game but less often or not to any major character? My first thought is a pug, like the one that was laughing at Krystal in the Kursed ending
>>739592029I hate that the trannies gatekeeping the project actively discourage anyone from asking anybody that was involved at rare about details from the project or about coming back to do VA to finish it, meanwhile based ice cream man gets in touch with old VAs and has them join his project
>>739592284In adventures Krystal's outfit seems similar enough to the dinosaurs like the lightfoot and sharpclaws that she got articles of clothing on sauria than her actual homeworld. The dinosaurs barely dress any more than she did so it feels appropriate in that game for her to look half naked.
>>739592383A hyena, the MacBeth conductor mentions them so they presumably exist in the setting
I forget Adventures is like 5 years after 64 I guess they did nothing the entire time except let Falco go.
>>739592383Make the main girl by a coyote since that's halfway size wise and ecological role of a fox and a wolf. Especially if shes a wildcard and can go both ways with either being an ally for star wolf or star fox. As for unique species try a varanus genus of lizards for enemies.
>>739592539There's a reason why the Great Fox is in disrepair and Fox is flying a junker
>>739592539Fox should be taller than Todd
>Instantly picks Wolf
>>739592736Leon= Pigma> Slippy> PeppyI can't wait to be disappointed how Pigma's "daddy screamed REEEEEAL good before he died!" line gets ruined in this remake, but I can at least trust Pigma to have the best lines
>>739592539Referencing your image, it was really funny watching people on Twitter actually call Fox a colonizer for fucking the tribal princess out of Krystal to the point that she was no longer wearing her original outfit and switched it for a latex suit in Assault. Or the people getting insanely fucking furious if you said that Fox McCloud is straight.
>>739592821>unc crashed out before he unalived fr
I wish krystal acted like xavier from xavier renegade angel. People should make memes with that concept.
>>739593028>Fox, the enemy's life force is on screen, but his soul force- to peer into that screen... one must gleam into the interface that is... beneath their face. face. face.
>>739593117Why Krystal takes damage you just hear sound clips of "take that" and "taste the pain"
>>739593028>You sound like the physical manifestations of some bitch's insecurities!>Well, you sound like some total whore's inability to confront the reality of her romantic attachments.
>>739592736I'm insta locking andrew just because we share names
>>739593392Yowzer! this movie's gone Bowser!
>>739593486>ANDWOSSES ENEMIES ARE MOIE ENEMIES
>>739593028>>739593117>>739593352>>739593392>>739593492>Fox! The enemy forces are coming from within your own head! Get out of your head! Get out of our head!
>>739593542Krystal eating ketchup take one! >eat that ketchup nice and good!https://youtu.be/0HxStFSzFIg?si=vyBehA6UDr5aUeUL
>>739593693Fritata!
>>739593693Ragebaiting my fox wife part 12!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2OS1JDzvAU
All the star fox threads made me wanna play the rest of the series so I'll ask here does the staff in adventures ever get upgraded or new combos or anything? Basically everything encounter is the same so far
>>739592736what happened to the panther??
I hated the writing for Krystal so much as a kid that I conjured an OC in my head that I never drew or anything but he was basically Krystal but green and he was her younger sibling that tried to help her come to her sense and leave star wolf, I really hope I'm not the only one who did shit like this
>>739594261He wasn't part of the team yet.
>>739594371Everyone with a soul has rewritten entire franchises in their heads to make more sense and be more narratively satisfying
>>739594261
>>739594261Retard
>be an adult>still playing nintendo games Pick one
>>739594668
>>739560510>>739560873i miss these assholesnopehave to fight pigma again award
>>739594812Ugly Bastards never diehttps://youtu.be/j21ckOpne9k?t=1419We're going to be fighting another Pigma abomination in Star Fox 64 HD Remix Ultra for the Switch 4
>>739568059>Falco is a fucking pheasantYeah?
>>739594812Pigma balls
>>739594071Kinda, (not really)You don't get any new combos or anything, but you get a couple (like 2) extra attacks. An AOE ground smash attack and a freeze spray that is way more OP than you might think it is.
>>739594371I was on DeviantArt back in the day and did the same kind of shit. I'm still the same autist that I was back then, the only thing that's changed is my writing capability. Ever since the series came back into relevancy I've been thinking about it nonstop, and I really need to hash out a story or a comic just to get it out of my head
>>739563897Hngg. Thicker!!
>>739594261I think he was a youngin' during Lylat Wars
>>739595985>Graduate high school>Immediately join Wagner group after space russia already lost WWIIIPanther's kind of fucking stupid huh
>>739586826what's exactly wrong here?
>>739596362His entire character is just to drive a wedge between Fox and Krystal, he's always been retarded and purposeless
Panther should worship Fay Spaniel's paws
>>739596381She's going to bat for fucking Andross, a psychopath space warlord who permanently ruined the biospheres of multiple planets in his own star system, killed at least millions of people, and turned himself into a cosmic demon. Also, it's been a LONG fucking time since I've played adventure, but wasn't the big twist at the end of the game that HE was the one who put Krystal in the timeout crystal?
>>739596423
>>739596552Kill yourself phoneposter
Imagine Pigma's smelly, grimy, oily, sweaty, greasy, fat body on top of you, thrusting away and heaving and grunting and snarling as the smegma-caked corkscrew drills deeper and deeper.
>>739596494Pretty sure that was the big twist, yeah. It's like they purposefully wrote Command as awfully as humanly possible. Everyone is out of character in really off-putting and mean-spirited ways. It's a game that actively hates the source material.
>>739563838Krystal craves the barbs
FALCO LOMBARDI IS A BRAVE ITALIAN PILOT AND IN THIS HOUSE HE'S A HERO. END OF STORY
>>739596494Indeed but years have passed and, most importantly, Andross himself is no longer there. I think it's more interesting to see how Andross has been romantized and justified by those who covet his achievements.It happens a lot more than you think.Even people that seem evil have some positive traits to them, and it's easy to fall prey for the idea that they were perhaps misjudged. Specially by people who weren't exactly there to live that reality.It's an interesting point that leads to the ending where Andross's grandson, despite being a righteous person and having good initial intentions, ends up falling into he same footsteps as Andross himse.
>>739596772Fuck off with your nigger shit, spic
>>739596840Panther is spanish
>>739596935And he's as black as an Argentinean, what's your point
>>739596965He's not actually black he just has black hair
i don't know anything about starfox apart from the fact that krystal is pretty hot, are there any multi-hour long video essay's about the video game's lore and overall story on youtube that you would recommend? I would like to participate in the debates in the future starfox threads but currently cannot due to a lack of information on the subject.
>>739597062Just play star fox 64 on emulator it will take less than an hour
>>739596840>>739596935Panther would be Castilian or North African. Explains his seductive nature. Imagine him licking your hear, and doing a bassy growl as his claws round down your bod, scraching deeper and deeper
>>739597085sorry, i don't play video games
>>739596785Except Krystal was basically more or less there because Andross returned in Adventures, and her saying "You're only saying that because he killed your father" is literally the dumbest shit she could possibly say in that situation. Revenge of the Sith came out a year prior to Command, so they obviously wanted to steal the "Not from my perspective" line but botched it completely. It's just shit writing for a shit game.
>>739597265>so they obviously wanted to steal the "Not from my perspective" line but botched it completely.I would argue that it's just as bad in ROTS, but yes, it is retarded
Let's ends this like men.
>>739563249why is he wearing pants
>>739597097>I AM NOT A-- I MEAN, PANTHER IS NOT A NIGGER! HE IS NOT! THE BLOOD OF CARTHAGE SEETHES THROUGH MY MOORISH-- I MEAN HIS MOORISH VEINS! WHITER THAN YOU, YOU MUTT BASTARD!
>>739597430Why you do?
So like what they did to katt is ridiculous.Why are emasucated cuckolded western game devs like this?
>>739597062I'll give you a quick rundown>Japan's equivalent of "Cats vs Dogs" is "Dogs vs Monkeys">Dogs are the good guys. Monkeys are the bad guys. Everyone is racist. I'm serious. We're talking about Elder Scrolls level of casual racism.>Andross, the evil acientist, was doing mad science that nuked a city (Japan lol). He also Killed Fox McCloud's mom, Vixy Reinard, with a fucking car bomb because he was jealous that she loved James McCloud, Fox's dad.>Was exiled to Venom, which is just Space Australia>Instead of dying, he turns Venom into furry Helghan>James is sent to investigate with Peppy and Pigma but is backstabbed by Pigma and is presumed dead while Peppy survives>Peppy trains Fox to become a fighter pilot, who later kills Andross>The space furry war is over, and with no money, Fox goes broke until hes given a job to investigate Sauria>There he saves a barely legal space furry Amazon Krystal from Andross and his army of tribal lizards>Krystal is actually taller that Fox who was in his late 20's lol>A few years later space robo bugs known as Aparoids rape Lylat until Fox and his crew locks in to save the day again>Fucking Command. The only decent ending has Fox's and Krystal's son continuing the legacy>Zero is just a retelling of 64 so don't worry about it. 64 is just a retelling of Starfox SNES.There's more to it but only fans and furries care about it.
>>739597376>>739597538I can fix her.
>>739597674I genuinely forgot about the car bomb shit, that is fucking insane. Fox has been through a fucking lot, so people shitting on him even more feels really undeserving
>>739581737He's aware of this old cartoon, I see.
>>739597674where does wolf and his crew play into all this?
>>739598328Star Wolf is a rival mercenary group that was hired by Andross to supplement his army during the war. They also hired Pigma to join them, because Wolf is a piece of shit. Team Star Fox beat them at least once, probably twice, but they did survive. They later helped Star Fox and the Cornerian army during the aparoid invasion. After the Aparoid war, Fox didn't let Krystal fly with Star Fox anymore, for her own safety, and so she ran away and joined Star Wolf instead. They did some random bullshit during Command which varies depending on which story route you do, but the story mostly revolves around invading fish aliens that get killed one way or another.
>>739598328>Star Wolf are a group of more libertarian mercenaries that were hired as enforcers/rivals to Star Fox. >Wolf is an edgelord captain.>Andrew was a forced inclusion on the team because Andross wanted him to man up>Pigma was a known traitor but has a good skillset, including art. Apparently, he designed the Star Fox logo.>Leon is an assassin and a known sadist>Panther is a later inclusion after Pigma somehow becomes too sleazy for the team and Andrew tries to resurrect his uncle's empire. He's a comically horny womanizer that is surprisingly lethal.>Wolf in Assault makes his home in the formerly abandoned Sargasso Space Station. IIRC he eventually runs it as it's own nation.>In Command's bad ending, Krystal leaves Fox for Wolf. Years later, cuckold porn is still being made.
>>739598610I thought she was fucking panther
>>739598610The vast majority of the NTR literally has nothing to do with Panther because no one actually likes him. Instead it's all lizards.
>>739598710Wait, you're right. Typo, i guess.
>>739597719Nothing to fix. She's perfect.
>>739598813It is also all terribly unfinished. So Krystal is considered to be cursed.
>>739598845See! Just get rid of the makeup and the design is fine
>>739598610>>739598841Somehow, that would have been less offensive
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>>739599624At least Panther isn't a war criminal. Probably`
>>739599820At least Wolf is cool. Panther is such a faggot, especially in Command where he talks about himself in the third person.
>>739594261Nintendo has been fucking over every Star Fox character that isn't part of the 64 cast for the last 20 years and now they've started fucking with everyone else too.
>>739597062>Pigma and Andross used to work together doing science things for Corneria>James(Fox's dad) and Wolf had some kind of previous relationship, what it was exactly is unknown. >Wolf is old by the way. he's in his 40's or something in 64 and 50s by Command>Fox's mom is black
>>739600112Translate it, weebs.
